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primary source for capitol hill, providing planed, unfiltered coverage of government. all with the support of america's cable companies. c-span, 45 years and counting. powered by cable. >> joining us now to discuss managing louisiana tech stress, anxiety is dr. arthur evans. c.e.o. of the american psychological association. dr. evans, thank you so much for being with us. your organizatiot released its newest stress in america survey. for we get to the finding -- before we get to the findings tell us how that survey was conducted. guest: it was conducted in the first couple of weeks of august. over 3000 people. in of the things we do so we can talk specifically about sub-groups is we over-sample

certain populations so we have enough in the sample that we can reliably say this is what we believe this group is saying and thinking. host: one of the things that the survey looks at his the relation to election stress. here are some of the findings. 31% reported the of the nation has made them consider moving to a different country. 9% say the political environment in their state has made them consider moving to a dif state. the 4% feel their rights are attack. 82% worry people may be biasing their values andpinions on false and inaccurate information. 32 percent say their political climate has caused strain between them and family members. talk to us about this report and your take away from those findings. guest: sure. that is a good summary of what we found. what i would say is that

election stress is bipartisan. and of the things that was very striking in this survey is that on most of the questions you talked about there, there are not a lot of differences between democrats and republicans and independents, for that matter. so, we know this is a phenomena affecting all of us in the population. the other thing that was really striking is that people are really thinking about the consequences of election in pretty dire terms. 72% saying they think this election will end in violence. and again, democrats, republicans, and independents think that. over half of people thinking that this election could be the end of democracy. again, republicans, democrats, and independents are saying that. so, there is a lot of consistency in how people are viewing these issues, even if we have pretty elevated levels of stress around the election itself. host: dr. evans' research shows

that the stress we are feeling about the state of politics can harm both our physical and mental health. how can that present? what can it look like? guest: we know that stress can affect our physical and mental health. it can affect our cardiovascular health. it can affect chronic diseases like diabetes. we know it can affect our mental health. anxiety, depression. so, we really have to be concerned about election stress because it is stress and we know that stress can have a very negative impact on our overall health, both physical and mental. host: he mentioned that the stress is pretty much evenly spread out among individuals, regardless of the political party that they consider themselves under. but what about other groups? younger generations, older generations, men versus women?

what does the survey tell you about those groups? guest: sure. one of the interesting findings is that historically what you would find is that older adults have the least amount of stress. so, the older we get the less stress we tend to experience. data shows that pretty consistently over time. one of the things that was interesting about this survey is that on the question about concerns about the election and the environment, actually adults, older adults, 65-plus, have the highest proportion of people saying that they were concerned about that, and the younger generation actually said that they had less. so, one of the things that says is that on that particular question older adults actually think that that is more likely and that they are experiencing more stress about it so, it

makes you wonder, for people who have run through 9/11 and all of these other events, what are they saying about the current election that would lead them to that conclusion? we also saw demographic differences around race and gender, around race, for example we saw that african-americans and latinos are more likely to believe that their vote is going to matter, that their vote counts. there were not large differences, but there were significant differences on questions like that. so, even though we have these big numbers, even though that there is pretty much agreement along political lines around what is important, what is causing people stress, there are these demographic differences in the population. host: we are talking about managing election stressing -- and anxiety with dr. arthur evans, ceo of the american psychological association. if you have a question or

comment for him you can start calling in now. lines are broken down by region. if you are in the eastern or central time zone the line, (202) 748-8000. and if you are in the pacific or mountain time zone, (202) 748-8001. dr. evans, we are just a couple of days from the election, so people may be feeling that peak stress right now. how long does the stress usually last? when does it start to get better? guest: one of the things that is really interesting in the data in the survey is that, yes, we see this peak in stress levels around the election cycle, but a lot of the phenomenon around stress around the political environment is carrying into our daily lives. mentioned the data that say 40% of americans are contemplating moving out of the country or out of their state because of the political environment. we also know that about one

third of people are saying they are reducing their interactions with their family members or their having stress in the interactions with their family members. we are seeing people, reports that the relationships they have both with friends, half of people saying they are spending less time with their friends because of political differences and people saying who they date is affected by their political viewpoints. so, what we are seeing is not just the election, but it is how the political environment largely is affecting our daily lives, even after the election cycle. host: our first call her up for you is ronald in myrtle beach, south carolina. good morning, ronald. caller: yes, good morning. i like to get some advice. you know, started in 2020

election when donald trump was elected. before he was elected, actually. my neighbor took down his american flag and put up his trump flag. i took a picture of it. i wanted to show how unpatriotic that is, to take an american flag down and whatever and turn -- he was like an army of neighbors coming down my street, almost attacking my wife, you need to take that post down, you know? and it started there. in turn, we go up this year, every time trump was indicted the neighbors and stuff would run around with their trump flag , intimidating people, saying how strong they are. harris people do not do that. as far as i know. they did not around here. we don't try to intimidate people, and it is the stress factor brought upon our neighbors.

not necessarily the campaigners, but our neighbors are so gullible. you got any advice for us? is not the tv. guest: unfortunately what we are seeing is that more and more people are engaging in that kind of activity. in fact, the survey talked about , just a large majority of people being concerned about this ability we are seeing. -- the civility we are saying. some of this belongs to our political leaders. they have to turn down some of the rhetoric around the elections, but the other part of it is we have to think about the bigger picture here. at the end of the day we all have to live together, we want the same things for our families. the survey shows there is agreement on what the issues are. we disagree on is how to get there.

what i hope is we can step back, take a look at the big picture. what is really important? and really try to be much more civil. one of the silver linings in the survey was that even though 80% of people believe that all -- that their political viewpoints are important, about an equal number of people believe we should still have conversation. so, even though people -- with people who disagree with them, i should say. so, even though there is what we see as vitriol and anxiety and those kind of things about the election, people still believe that they should be able to talk to people who disagree with them politically. and so, that gives us hope that if people understand some strategies to do that that we can start to make a turn in what we are saying. host: dr. evans, to that point,

right now because there may be so much stress going around and people are not wanting to have those conversations now, what advice do you have on how to repair a relationship that may have been impacted by the election once we get past it? guest: sure. i think that point you made about getting past the election is very important. trying to have those conversations now is probably not going to be very fruitful. a couple of things i will say. to really think about what matters and where you agree as opposed to where you don't agree . what i have found over my career, particularly in political environments, 20 years i have spent in political environments, most of the time we turn to those kinds of situations, thinking about where our differences are in starting the conversation there. and if we step back and think

about, where are we similar and how can we start the conversation on the things we agree on, you actually get a lot further. most people are probably going to agree on may be 80% of things. people may not agree on how to approach those things, but there are a lot of things people agree on. the other thing is to approach those conversations not trying to convince the other person, but trying to listen and understand. if you think about it, most people have pretty set political views. the callers right before this segment, they are probably not going to change their viewpoints around who they are supporting politically. but they can step back and try to understand why people who think differently from them have those positions. so, i think it is about trying to understand, listen, and then find common ground where there

is agreement. host: rowan in detroit, michigan. good morning, roland. caller: dr. evans, i have something for you. but you are here to discuss this. there has been an abundance of flyers, mailers called voter participation, and it says in commercials too, your vote is private. who you vote for is private, but whether you vote or not is public. to me, that is stressful. it is almost like, we are going to profile you, you're going to have a lower or higher social score, and this time around is really crazy. have you heard of that campaign? voter participation? and don't you think it is not cool? guest: yeah, well, you know, it is really helping to educate people about the political

system. in our political system we do track whether your vote. we don't know how you voted. so it is really more of an educational campaign to let you know what the reality is around how our political process works. host: dr. evans, for somebody like roland, who is feeling some election-related, political-related stress, they are not necessarily tuning in and watching actively, they are just going about their day-to-day life. they open the mailbox and there is something in there that maybe triggers stress. how can people best deal with that political-related stress and anxiety? what are some coping strategies? guest: there are a lot of things we can do to manage it. the first thing to do is to recognize we are experiencing stress. one of the reasons we do the survey is to highlight the people what people are experiencing stress about and it gives us the opportunity to have

these conversations. most of us have our own signs that we are experiencing stress. for example, i know that when i become more cynical, for example, i'm probably experiencing stress, because i'm typically not a cynical person. so, this can manifest in different ways for different people. it could be that people start to increase the amount that they are drinking. it could be that they are short with their kids or coworkers. but all of us need to be aware of that. and if you are not aware, please ask the people around you. they will tell you, what are the signs you are experiencing stress? secondly, it is important to do the things we do to manage stress more generally. exercise, sleep. just fundamental terms of us having a baseline. around political stress in particular, really being able to

be conscious around how we manage that. for example, instead of sitting at your computer or with your phone and going through article after article, you might want to set a timer so that you don't look up and it has been two hours you have been doing what we called him scrolling -- doom scrolling, looking at article after article. there are things you can do to make sure you are staying socially connected, which we know is a really important way to help us manage our stress. one of the things that is going to be important for this election in particular is knowing that we are probably not going to know the outcome of the election on election night, or however many days after that. one of the things that raises our anxiety is uncertainty. if we know we are going into a period where there may be some uncertainty, we can plan for that. we can plan for the fact that we

may not know and that this is not going to be over. so, the main thing is to really be conscious about this. to understand some of the strategies. at the american psychological association we put this information on our website so people can be more knowledgeable about strategies they can use to defeat stress. it is really important to just be aware of how the stress is impacting on our lives. host: robin in syracuse, new york. good morning, robin. caller: hi. this election has never affected me this way before. i could deal with it with other people, and usually you can just walk away, but when it is a family member and you are from a close group and they have such -- it's not even republican or democrat, it is just bizarre --

not feelings, but it is what they want. you know, they want the united states, actually, to go under, because they think we deserve it. i just don't want to talk anymore. i can't stand it. i could deal with everything else, but with the family members i love and i would give anything for, i just want to block them out of my life, and i don't know what to do. that is it. thank you. guest: yeah. you know, i hear how stressful and distressing that is for you. you said something that was really important, that despite the differences that you have with your family members you still care deeply about them. and maybe that is the place to start. the issues around the political differences can be that way.

many of us have experienced that. again, the data show that. so, i would really encourage you to have a conversation that is about agreeing to disagree. and agreeing that your relationship with your family members is much more important than the differences that you have from a political standpoint. and i would frame the conversation that way, because any other way becomes a process where one side is trying to convince the other side, and that is probably not going to work. i think people are pretty set around how they view, but if you can get past that and have that other conversation i think that is the place to focus. host: dr. evans, where are some resources? where can individuals go to get more information? for callers like robin, who is looking for maybe how to best

handle some of the situations? guest: sure. you can go to our website. apa.org. that is for the american psychological association. you can also go to the nimh. they have a really great website. they talk about stress there. the cdc also has information on stress. so, there are lots of resources out there. one resource i also want to make sure we mention is for election workers. one of the things we are seeing is that election workers are under a tremendous amount of stress. you saw that during the last election. we are seeing that now. we are sharing reports of people being harassed at polling stations. we are hearing people having their yards damaged who are election workers. so, a lot of stress with that. that group of individuals as well. and we created a video to help them manage the stress related to that and manage difficult situations.

and you can get that on our youtube channel or you can google election worker and apa, and you should be able to find it that way as well. host: fred in riverside, california. good morning, add. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my phone call here. good morning to the guest. guest: good morning. caller: so, my question was about this term we here in pop culture called trumped arrangement syndrome. you know, what is the last politically-charged term for that phenomenon? and what are some, maybe some factors that would lead to something like that beyond media consumption? because it seems like when i talked to some kamala supporters that are within the black community it is a very sassy,

angry tone that i get back. i'm just curious about the real or-reviewed science behind something like that. guest: yeah, i'm sorry. i didn't quite hear the term you used. host: he said the trumped arrangement syndrome. guest: ok. that is a term i have not heard. i'm not quite sure exactly what it means. it probably means, based on what i'm hearing the caller say, and it sounds like it is directed at people who may be supporters of the former president, so i'm not quite sure what the phenomena is that is being discussed. people thrive terms quite a bit. that can be a little dangerous when we start to characterize people in terms of their mental health status, particularly if you do not have training in that area.

i'm not sure how people are using that term. host: patty in wellsboro, pennsylvania. morning, patty. caller: good morning, tammy. thank you for being on today. my question has to do -- we have a ulta generational home here. so, my daughter and her husband, and the kiddos, the grandkids lived with us. we all live together. my two granddaughters are now teens, 17 and soon to be 15 girls. i am very politically active. they know that. i have helped organize women's march, i do canvassing and all of that. that helps me cope. something started happening as we became more aware. we always tried to shelter them. we have never played some speeches on television. we try to shelter them somewhat, but they bring it up. so, during covid's when things

started to get scary. because the grandfather was home and was playing those daily briefings. and they saw him as crazy. and so, they were getting scared, and then they started looking around at our extended family members, who were supporters, and now it is much worse because the 17-year-old, and now 15-year-old, they have more access to social media. they have become aware of statements having to do with trump's attacks on women. like, the access hollywood tapes. the last two days it has become worse. the last few weeks. i don't know how to help them cope. they don't know how to look at family members who they are now old enough to understand our actually voting for someone that they have information about that they see as a threat to them. and i don't know how to help

them deal with that. because i cannot reconcile it myself. you know, now i have a 17 and seem to be 15-year-old who just do not know how to cope with knowing that there are people in their life who would actively vote against their self-interest. how do i help them reconcile that? guest: sure. so, one thing to note is that for our children, particularly younger children, but even older children, how we manage these issues has a big impact on how they manage them. in fact, the level of stress you are experiencing often impacts on our children. number one, i think you being a role model around these issues is very important. i think, you know, as i was talking earlier about really trying to separate out the

political viewpoints of family members from how you care about those family members is really important. you know, i think all of us are dealing with this phenomena that really feels like something we haven't dealt with before, that the political environment is now such that it is impacting on our relationships and on our lives beyond the election. and that is a new phenomenon. we don't have a lot of experience with that, and what i would really encourage is to have the conversation, particularly about the point you are making, which is, help us understand how you think differently, so differently, on these issues. i want to understand that as a way of really bridging that gap and bridging that divide that people may feel because of the political differences in the family. host: dr. evans, i wanted to point out that the new stress in america survey also did have

some bright spots, and there was a 61% feel hopeful about the change this election will bring. 59% said hopeful the election will lead to a more inclusive society. 77% said they intend to vote in the presidential election, and 51% said they feel compelled to volunteer or support causes they value. what can you tell us about the positive aspects of political engagement? guest: one of the things we know from psychological research is that one of the things that raises our anxiety is feeling out of control. and having a greater sense of psychological control actually is a very important strategy in managing our stress. so, what is hopeful about the data you talked about is that half of the people are saying that they are going to engage or are engaging in the political process.

that goes a long way in giving us that psychological sense of control, and therefore helping to reduce the anxiety and stress we may feel. so, there is some hope there. earlier i talked about the data, that over 80% of the people feel that even though they may disagree with someone it is still important for them to hear and understand those viewpoints. so, there is some good news there, and i think we should have hope that because of that we have a way forward that begins to help reduce some of the impact and stress we are experiencing from the election process. host: andy in salisbury, north carolina. good morning, andy. caller: good morning. i think that we have been tenderized. for 20-something years. by the, i would say right, but it is both sides, to where they

are stoking their fear and anger , to the point where everybody, especially my loved ones around me and the ones i go to church with and everything are a bunch of old people that are scared and pissed. and they are acting on this emotion, and it scares me. to evoke emotions instead of giving me facts, i think, is the wrong thing to do, and what i have tried to train myself to do is spend time in the mirror and realize, what are they trying to make me feel, instead of what the actual issue is? that is my biggest thing. i think everybody is scared, and if you are a person on the left you are scared of trump, and if you are a person on the right, you are scared of everybody but

trump. and everybody else is lying, except trump. and i can't wrap my head around that, but i can spend my time in the mirror and judge accordingly. thank you for my call. guest: yeah, well, the caller is saying you cannot say it much better than that. one of the people -- ways people are manipulated around the election is by trying to stoke their emotions. and particularly anger. anger is one of the ways that people used to really get people to take the position they want you to take. so, i think being aware of that is really important, and you said it well in terms of, that is the strategy. and if we can be much more aware of that, that is -- we are less likely to succumb to that. the other thing about that that is important is, really being careful about the sorts of

sources we get information from. our survey said that a majority of people are very concerned about fake news, about how ai can be used to manipulate information, and what is perceived as the source of that information. we are going to have to be much more vigilant about getting our news from sources that are reliable. certainly they may have different viewpoints, but there is a lot of misinformation out there. that misinformation is used to manipulate feelings, and we want to minimize the likelihood that the can happen. host: gina in mississippi. good morning, gina. caller: good morning, dr. evans. the last caller kind of touched on what i wanted to say. i would like to explain, i am a

high-anxiety level person. and it seems what gets my anxiety the most is the untruth that is spoken over the airwaves. you have -- i mean, to get the truth today in politics you have to what? you have to be a political addict. you have to watch everything since the beginning and i am a political junkie. so, since the beginning, when trump came down the escalator i have heard untruths, propagandized against him. and it just gets worse and worse and worse and more and more. and i don't think the media --

maybe they do, but i don't think the media really realizes the effect it is having on the american population. like, they had a lady call in the other day, she was a democrat, and she was literally crying, saying that trump was going to take her social security away from her. which is just a bald-faced lie propagated by the democrats. and it is little things, little things over and over, how they take one word out of a sentence or paragraph and turn it into what they want it to mean. i do believe it is the spin doctor. i think that the lord is watchful and i think the democrats set out to destroy donald trump almost 10 years ago, and now they have turned him into something that is about as satan himself.

and i do believe that the lord is listening and watching, and i do believe that the lord protected him when someone tried to kill him. host: we will get a response from dr. evans. guest: no, a couple of -- you know, a couple of things you said i want to pull out. one of them is that information and people's positions can be mischaracterized. and it happens, both sides of the political spectrum. so, we want to be aware of that, and particularly things that poke at our motions, as the previous callers said. you mentioned your fate. one of the things that when we are talking about how we manage, actually our faith can be a really important resource and support for us. i would also encourage people who are people of faith who have a community of faith that can be

supportive to rely on that community to help sustain you as well. host: dr. evans, the survey also found that 77% of adults said the future of our nation was a significant source of stress in their life. come election day once the dust has settled there is a good chance that 50% of the country will not be happy with the president who has been elected. how can people continue to manage their political-related stress after the election is over? guest: it is going to be important for people to put the election in perspective and the impacts of the election in perspective. one of the things that is driving stress is that the election and its results have been put into existential terms. that if this election does not go my day, it is not the america

we know it, it is the end of life as we know it. he's a stark terms. the reality is that for most of us, even if our person did not get into the white house a lot of things do not change that dramatically. most of us still live in the same home we have. most of our lives are pretty much the same. that is not to say the election is not consequential and important, but for the most part life has not changed. -- changed as dramatically as it is painted prior to the election. i think it is really important to keep that in mind as we are thinking about this. at the end of the day we all want the same things. we want to have life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, you know, as americans. the importance of engaging in the political process, engaging in civic activities becomes even more important.

what drives our anxiety and stress is this feeling of not being in control, the feelings of uncertainty, and the more we can do to actively engage, the more we can do to be involved in and really trying to address the issue that people are concerned about, the better we are going to do post-election. host: fill in northbrook, illinois. good morning, bill. caller: good morning. more of a statement but a question, but you are basically dealing with emotions. 50, 60 years ago we got our information from reading a newspaper. but today we are online, we are constantly bombarded. one message is that each person regardless of the level of education should always ask themselves, what do i think? not what i'm being told on the television to think. or on my computer, but what do i

think? and what are the reasons that i hold those views? and by asking it that way you sort of get away from that you are just being manipulated and might reduce your anxiety. that is my only comment. guest: i think that is well-said. host: dr. evans is the ceo of the american psychological association. you can find information and resources at apa.org.