weekend after, we are going to learn a lot more. i do hope that trump stays true to his opposition to endless war because i think this country is in rough shape. i know there are a lot of possibility, but the words deplete, the wars don't get us security. we've provided ukrainethat is me corps in one year. i am not an isolationist. i think military spending is out of control and we need security. that is a different force and strength. veterans day is coming up. guest: i think trump was railroaded.

surely fani willis was his political opponent and so was jack smith, who tortured the laws to come up with these novel theories for why trump violated the law. these cases were profoundly wrong and trump would say, i have been a target by political pundits. he is usually saying they targeted me. i do not think you should target his clinical opponents. that would be wrong and politically destructive. the more important thing to focus on -- this is a great and good country. a caller expressed concern about how children will handle this. people are not obsessed with this. they go about their daily lives and interact with other americans of all partisan brands and every caller and creed with no problem whatsoever. that is what the country is, so

we have the poisonous frost of political debate on top of a country where most people are not obsessed with this every moment and i would endorse the callers we have heard in this hour and earlier as well, just thank you to c-span for having katrina and me on and letting us talk and disagree and occasionally agree. it is a wonderful thing and it is too bad we do not have more of it in the media. my hat is off to katrina and c-span. host: rich lowry is the editor of the national review appeared katrina van -- national review. katrina vanden heuvel is the editorial director of the nation. you can start calling in now. those numbers will be on your screen.

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>> to many people, the results were shocking and horrifying. >> donald trump, who try to forcibly overturn the results of the last election, was returned to office by an overwhelming majority. >> this is the same donald trump who called for vengeance against his blood: enemies. >> now, thanks to the supreme court, there are no guardrails. >> nothing to protect the people brave enough to speak out against him. >> that is why we would like to say to donald trump we have been with you all along. >> we have never wavered in our support of you. even when others doubted you. >> every single person on this stage believed in you. >> every person on this stage voted for you. >> because we see ourselves and you up. we look at you and think, that is me. that is the man i want my future

children to look up to. >> and we know that you say things that are controversial sometimes but really you are just speaking the truth and i hate how the lame stream media tried to spin it and make you look foolish. >> so if you have some sort of list of your enemies, we should not be on it. host: saturday night live's take on the election. let's hear your take on the election or other political stories starting with katrina in new jersey. >> thank you for taking my call. i am sorry i missed the guest you had on, but i want to say trump is a supposed billionaire. he is worth a lot of money but has a lot of debt. he is transactional and that is

how he operates with people. he is not a conservative. he added $3 trillion to the debt and took us into covid without leadership. the question i have to america and c-span listeners is how do we overcome as a country the sexism and misogyny in this country? harris was clearly the better candidate but you did not vote for her. i am disheartened about how things went down, but we have to pick up ourselves. it told me a lot about what this america really is. thank you for taking my call. host: anita is on our line for democrats. caller: i'm calling to say this election, there is something wrong. people do not want to hear this,

but there is something wrong. how did they start calling this election for this man before all the polls closed? you still had people in line voting. we as americans are not crazy. something is wrong. these republicans can cry all they want to. this man is not fit to be president. as time goes on and people look into things -- i am telling you, america is better than this. again, america is better than this. and they need to look at elon musk because there is something wrong. we as americans always survive. we always win, but we will not be with trump because he is not going to be there. thanks for your time today. have a blessed day. host: let's look at a portion of vice president kamala harris's concession speech last wednesday

in washington. here, she addresses concerns that the nation is entering a dark time. [video clip] >> i will close with this. a historian once called a law of history. true of every society across the ages. the adage is only when it is dark enough can you see the stars. i know many people feel like we are entering a dark time, but for the benefit of us all i hope that is not the case. but here's the thing. america, if it is, let us fill the sky with the light of a brilliant billion stars.

the light of optimism, of faith, of truth, and service. and may that work guide us even in the face of setbacks toward the extraordinary promise of the united states of america. host: back to her calls in open forum. in massachusetts, our line for republicans. good morning. good morning. can you hear us? audi, are you there? you're a little quiet, but go ahead.

caller: i would like to start off by saying i will call it america, not a miracle. i voted for donald trump. about time we got him there for the people. host: your line is very difficult to hear. i want to make sure we get your point. can you speak a little closer to your phone? caller: can you hear me now? host: it is a little bit hard, but go ahead. caller: americans who are struggling to get a new phone. my point is i voted for donald trump and i will make my point short. there are a lot of problems.

the stock market lost 950 billion dollars. migrants have taken over. and i say he makes history by throwing them out as fast as he can. also i would like to say i was ready to go to vote for donald trump. like a proud law-abiding american taxpayer. i would like to say thank you to donald trump for running again and i hope he turns this country around. thank you for taking my call. host: jim is in florida on our line for independents. caller: i have a few things i want to say. first, i watched joe biden's speech thursday. how often did he say he never had spoke to anybody about his

kids or his brother's business? and that was proven, so he just kept lying. that is why had to vote for trump. i have another problem. i owned my own business for 30 years, retired about four years ago. i went one year to college and i hear people talk about the educated versus the uneducated and i guess i am uneducated i own my own business and i'm living the american dream. my wife and i worked for 30 years. host: what kind of business? caller: i had a family business, a grocery store. i had three kids. we all worked there. we sold it four years ago and my

capital gains cost me -- i come from a family of seven. and we had to pay our taxes and everything very legitimately. when i sold my business, i had to pay $360,000 in a capital gains tax, which for a middle-class guy, i was blown away when i discovered that. that was only -- thank god that trump was there because he lowered the capital gains by 15 points or something. that is another reason i voted for him. again, i had three children, put them through college, and now biden wants me to pay other people's educations? so that was another thing. i have a daughter who was in sports. she is too old now, but if i had a daughter -- the woman on your previous show played that men

and women's sports. it is real. so i have that to say. my last thing was with bernie sanders. he had the democrat in 2020, they moved him out. he was making the same moves and the democrats moved him out. as an independent, i was astounded that a democrat would stay in the party when they would not let anybody else run in the primary against joe and then they decided -- who is making these decisions? as an independent, as far as i'm concerned -- i have to be perfectly honest. i have only voted for one guy who has won the presidency and i am 68 years old and i have been voting for a long time. trump is the only guy i ever voted for who won, so i am not

that savvy when it comes to picking presidents. but i want to congratulate america and send my condolences. my daughter, who is 38, was crying when trump won. she went to georgetown and i have to pay that. come on. hallelujah. we have been happy ever since the vote. we have been happy as can be. host: what you're talking about a something a lot of families are experiencing, where different members of the family supported different candidates. how are you doing with your relationship with your daughter around this issue? caller: we cannot talk about it. i have two sons and they are republicans. i am independent. it is kind of funny. i called her on the voting day

and reminded her, do not forget to vote tomorrow. it is not great, but we love each other and it is not that bad. host: next, alan is in california on our line for democrats. caller: thank you for letting me come on. i am curious about something. you know the situation with the supreme court, basically, giving the president almost supreme power. that is what it looks like to me. and haven't if that is the case the democrats -- i'm a democrat now -- the democrats are claiming trump could be a dictator. the fellow in charge right now, still biden, would be president

and dictator now or the next person, which is the guy coming up right now. the biden is in right now. under his authority, according to the supreme court, they could put him behind bars now for what happened on january 6 and another thing is the man has all these legal problems. who needs that kind of thing? the problem is he did these things. people out there are saying it is ok. all the christian people. host: earlier, we had an article from the national review calling for president biden to pardon president elect trump. what do you think of that? caller: that would be possible.

he could do that. he could do both. it is up to him which he wanted to do, but -- the criminals that he is a partly done a lot of inks that are not really very good. and if you want to let him go on that, fine. i do not need to get into what he is not doing, but before the election was gone through, when we got trump, maybe he should have done that. not pardon him, but thrown him in jail. this is wrong. host: let's hear from michelle in california on our line for republicans. caller: i was curious to find

out about this immigration and if he is going to have co-op programs in high schools got which i had in the 1970's and 1980's. it was mandatory that you want to work somewhere and the school would help find you a job if you were not going to college and you would have trades come to the school and try to get the boys. back in those days, girls could not get into those classes, but now things have changed and i wonder if that will be implemented for the immigration issue. minimum-wage jobs or stepping stone jobs. they were not something to live on and over the years you saw they changed the rules. you can limit your parents'-- live at your parents' house until your 25. in my day, you were on the streets when you were 18. i am curious as the program will

be back in high schools. host: are you saying the co-op program will be used in tandem with the immigration proposals were two separate issues? caller: in tandem because he is going to deport these people. they are minimum-wage jobs. we had those in high school. host: you think there will be more employment opportunities for young people if there are fewer undocumented immigrants in united states. caller: the housing crisis would come down because back in those days you could get rent. everything was cheaper. car insurance was not. car insurance was never cheaper come up with the point i was try to make is do you think those would be implemented again? we have not seen those for 20, 30 years now. kids come to high school and they think they will get a job

-- you have to have experience. what experience you got? you cannot even balance a checkbook. that is my main question. do you think it will be back again? host: i guess we will find out when we hear about his nominees for positions in his incoming and ministration. let's go to don in new orleans. good morning. caller: good morning. happy veterans day weekend. it is funny when people say children should be thrown out when they are 18. they was married -- stayed at home. they stayed at home with john abbott so i do not know why people think throwing children out in a market where families are smaller but houses are bigger -- we are building mcmansions, 3000 square-foot palaces for families that are shrinking in size.

let me say this on my closing remark about the election. in new orleans, new orleans produces so many jobs. it is the economic engine of louisiana. it is the economic engine of taurus in louisiana, 20 million come to new orleans. we love it. we enjoy hosting people and events. we are in a red cut republican state. i'm independent, so does not bother me, but i know it bothers in most cases. when i look at what states kamala harris won, she won california, oregon, washington on the west coast. then she won except for michigan and wisconsin but she won the great lakes states. she won the northeast.

even up to the mid-atlantic. those are heavy economic producing states, but if you look at jon tester who lost in montana, they receive federal funding. they receive more federal aid than they pay in taxes and many of those red states except maybe florida and texas are in a similar predicament with west virginia receiving more in federal funding than it pays in taxes. so the economic engines -- you look at red states like atlanta in georgia. atlanta is the economic engine of georgia. he look at houston. host: let's hear from laura in massachusetts on our line for democrats. caller: i voted for kamala

harris reluctantly. i consider myself a progressive and i had to hold my nose to do it because of what the biden administration has done in gaza, how they lost my even thinking that even care about the working class anymore. she keeps using the word middle-class but never wanted to say the word for people because it is almost like now is repulsive for the elite democratic party now to even talk about poor people. it is as if the republicans went so far right and the democrats went so far to the center right. she is going around with liz cheney instead of bernie sanders, so i think the democrats pretty much got what they deserved because the republicans, especially the poor republicans -- the wealthy ones are happy because they will get all they want from their

billionaire donors, but -- it is appalling to see the money put into both campaigns. but they were able to buy the poor man's vote because those people are disgusted with all of it and they think trump who is still called the blue collar billionaire, really cares about them when he is sitting in his mansion in florida. they are delusional thinking that. the problem is they do not want to talk policy. all they want to do is talk personalities and that keeps the eye off the ball got which is his intention. his intentions are to dismantle social programs that could benefit them, so they do not understand they voting against themselves and it is unfortunate that corporate media feeds into

this. i see msnbc and cnn try to figure out what went wrong. you have so many people at the top of the chain now who just do not understand what the working class has been going through in this country. host: let's hear from freddy on our line for republicans. caller: what i for say is joe biden let's all the illegals in and donald trump is going to throw them out. this about the trump being charged with all this stuff, if you think two misdemeanors can turn into 32 felonies, you are going to reap what you sow. hopefully donald trump will return to favor -- return the favor and charge some of you all the same way he did.

host: president-elect trump is in the process of forming his next administration and made statements about that got ruling out, as a story reports, nikki haley and mike pompeo for administration posts. he said saturday that two of his former officials would not be asked to join his second administration. here is the post on truth social showing that statement from president-elect trump. i will not be inviting former amssador nikki haley or former secretary of state mikeompeo to join with therump administration, which is in formation. i appreciated working with them previously and would like to thank them for their service to our country. make america great again. back to that article cut why this matters, there is plenty of

water under the bridge between nikki haley and the president after they clashed during the gop primary, though shortly endorsed trump, she rebuked him on the campaign trail as unhinged and toxic. trump aide previously said that she would be on his team in some form after she vowed to vote for him and there was speculation she might serve as his running mate. she issued a statement as well, i was proud to work with pridt trump defending america at the united nations. i wish him and alwh serve great success in moving us forwarto a stronger, safer america over the next four years. let's get back to your calls in open forum. kathy is in nebraska on our line for independents. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call.

several things here. it feels like, with the election and everything, i hate to age myself but it looks like soylent green, if you ever watch that back in the 1970's. the rich were rich and the poor were poor and that is the way it was and it feels like that, that rich people and -- in government and other places have no idea. i would like to see or suggest instead of having one person as a president to have a cabinet, maybe a republican, a democrat, and an independent or four so all of them would have to agree on everything as a team instead of giving all the power to one person that so many things can

happen, as we know, which -- with one person. regarding trump, i am not sure, to change gears here. i voted for kamala because i wanted a woman. i do not care who it was. men have always ran everything. they are the only ones. i would like to see a woman have a chance and see what they could do with our country. so far as covid and mr. trump, as a president you are supposed to protect and serve the people. i do not see that trump really -- he was more interested in trying to get reelected and

telling people to inject bleach. my biggest thing with him is i was -- i had gotten covid. i had covid. it destroyed part of my brain. and i could barely function because donald trump was talking about injecting bleach and that the breeze in march was going to get rid of it and no one saved anybody. it was terrible, all the people that died. so there is nothing i can do. i am an older person. i am on social security and was having brain fog and other issues and living on $45 a week. i do not think anyone ever would

understand how i feel and then right after covid happened i had gone to the dentist office and i am not sure what happened there. host: i am going to go onto to the next person. ray is in california on our line for democrats. caller: good morning. i agree with the previous caller about covid. one of the reasons i do not want to vote for trump is in january he knew the pandemic was going to be awful, but instead of doing something that would help people he came out and said that it was a democratic coax and did not do anything really until march. even part of his own committee said that between january and march we could have saved about 200,000 people.

the other thing is he came into office having been convicted of fraud, which had nothing to do with democrats whatsoever. he had a fraudulent trump university and marketed it deceptively and had to pay $25 million. the other thing is that i wonder how many of the children that they took from immigrants at the border -- how many of them have never been reunited with their parents and will never be reunited with her parents because the children did not know who their parents were -- the address and so forth and were too young to even know their mother's names. i thought that was atrocious. so i am wondering if anybody ever thought about a class action lawsuit to hold trump responsible for trying to

deceive people regarding the covid pandemic since there were so many lives lost unnecessarily. and even after march when he finally started getting things going, he had states competing for things like personal protective equipment and remember him saying, i am not a shipping company or something of that nature. i do not think this man is fit to be in office. he has done so many unethical things and i voted for kamala because how can we be the greatest country in the world when we have people living on the streets? she was talking about building a large number of housing for affordable housing.

host: let's hear from anthony in pennsylvania on our line for republicans. caller: good morning. since the results tuesday, i am watching cnn and msnbc and listening to certain respondents on c-span. i watch washington journal every morning. the level of trump derangement syndrome has turned into trump derangement depression. it is kinda funny to watch because these people, especially the media, have gone after trump since he came down the escalator appear the fbi, cia, they have all conspired against him from the beginning with the russia collusion with the 51 guys, the cia people who denounced hunter biden's laptop as russian

misinformation. alvin bragg and jack smith -- that was all coordinated with the white house and prove they all met with the white house counsel and people with the doj worked with letitia james and alan bragg. the people are now getting there comeuppance. i love listening to the trumped arrangement depression because they got with they were ghastly into appear these people are too stupid to understand the biden administration was in warfare against a political rival. trump should not be pardoned. he did not do anything wrong. letitia james went against trump from the beginning. they lost. happy sunday, everybody. host: we have our -- gar on our

line for independents. caller: strap on your belt because you are getting ready to go on a roller coaster ride. it is going to be drama because we know we have a drama queen in office. we know it. and the thing about it, your guest was talking about woke. that means to be aware and republicans put people to sleep. that is how a guy with more crimes in al capone and bill cosby -- more crimes than all of them put together. put him in office. so you know they put people to sleep. like i said, put on a roller coaster belt because you are getting ready to go on a drama ride. thank you. host: jim is in missouri on our line for democrats. caller: i am not surprised that america did not vote for a black

female. going back to the obama presidency, that was the genesis of trump, birth tourism -- birtherism and we have to take america back back from who? i would say the black people, is their thought process. labeling immigrants as illegal immigrants is a prejudicial thing. they present themselves at the border and get asylum here, they are not illegal. trump tries to deport those 20 million people that he talks about, what would happen to our gdp and our workforce that is too small to fill the jobs we have now? his economic proposals, you would think a businessman would know how they work. china does not write a check.

it comes out of our pockets. let's see. political influence for sale. elon musk. perfect example. why would he want to mess around in politics? he needs another tax break? i am depressed. good day. host: mike is in texas on our line for republicans. >> in regard to illegal immigrants, asylum is defined by going to the nearest adjacent country from which you are fleeing. it is not to go to the country on the other side of the globe and land on our border and have our tsa or border agents act as travel agents. we are taking them in and

spending money we do not have. in 2000 1999, newton and bill clinton balanced -- newt and bill clinton spec -- balance the budget. at some point, someone will have to start paying direct interest on this. right now, it is about $1 trillion a year, so some of that -- someone has to go to d.c. and reform those to parts of paperwork that seem to be in every building. i have been to d.c.. just walk through the city. the federal buildings -- who works there? do part of education the pentagon -- department of education, the pentagon, they need to be reformed. the people who work there, they have a better risk of dying at their desk than of getting fired.

also, if trump walked across the hudson river -- if you walked across it, some of the democrat callers, i know they mean well and they are upset. some of them would say that he cannot swim. i am stunned how much they look in the rearview member instead of trying to find ways to restore departments. there are so many departments that under deliver in everything. the departed of education. who do they teach there? host: it has been discussed on the campaign trail and elsewhere that rfk junior might have a potential role in the trump administration and one of the things he has said specifically as he would want to eliminate many departments, including some components of the department of education and potentially the fda. what do you think of those proposals? caller: what happens is it is a good idea. a lot of the departments have overlapping roles and i think

there is so much spending and so many people. what i would be interested in is comparing the spending of the departments he from 2010 to 2005 or even when the budget was balanced and compare the rate of increase over the past 20 years because i assure you the rates of increase in these individual department is substantial. let's look at money spent at the pentagon. there are places that could be trimmed and fat eliminated. we have to look at how we are spending money in these departments. we spend a lot of money on solar efforts and alternative energy and we never hear about all those failed efforts. we have to reform these things and audit them like we never have before. host: next is lisa in texas.

caller: good morning. i live in texas, one of the border states. i want people to try to understand real quick that we have grave concerns. can you hear me ok? i apologize. i want people to real quick stop and think about 2001 and how we were attacked and we feel like we are at great risk still because all these millions of people at the borders and something else i want to say, when president trump was in office he tried his best to address our economy, the deficit. he is not perfect. none of these politicians are. my voice shakes as i talk because what concerns me is that i feel like our country is never

going to be united and i am going to blame some of this on the mainstream media because most of the media did nothing but harass him when he was in office. when he was addressing covid, they would get him off subject and talk about other things. let me say this last. biden could not even talk -- he will not even answer questions at news conferences. kamala could not even address things. all i want to end this with -- our biggest concern now is the economy. i believe people have the right to come to our country legally. more than anything, as an independent and american, i want to see this country united. thank you so much. host: jim is in ohio on our line

for democrats. good morning. caller: my problem is project 2025. i am a senior citizen. today is my birthday. i am 80 years old. and as far as i am concerned, i think donald trump is too old to be in office. even though he has wisdom, still he is too old and i think harris come as far as i'm concerned -- i did not know which one to vote for because i did not want either of them. we need younger people in office. i think before this is over jd vance will be our president, within the next four years.

that is about all i have to say. thanks for taking my call. host: robert is in maine on our line for republicans. caller: good morning. i hear a lot of people that are really upset on both sides. i would like to see the temperature come down and i blame a lot of it on the mainstream media. that cannot be denied. we all know that. i want to -- if you're depressed and it is continual, you should seek help. that is what professionals are for because it is not normal to have such depression about political things. that is what i really hope people that cannot shake it, that they get the help they need. that is all. host: keith is in colorado on our line for independents. caller: thanks for taking my

call. i have been listening to the calls this morning and i am pretty struck as to how four years ago when trump lost all you heard was fraud, these elections are rigged, this is no good, this is terrible, all these things. four years later, all the elections are great and there is no fraud and every thing is good. i think the american people have to take a look at how we are assessing this election and the previous elections and how we assess elections going forward. biden was an awful candidate. i do not think there question about that. some of the decisions he made were bad. i think the vice president suffered from that unpopularity. i think, to the point a lot of people have said, the media has been responsible for the trump phenomenon.

he tells all these fantastic misrepresentations. everything is more stunning than the previous statement. this issue about illegal immigration -- it has been demagogued for years and it is unfortunate the more unfortunate thing is you have poor people in mississippi, alabama, louisiana who look at trump -- they are poor and think trump is going to deliver them from poverty or they just could not vote for this woman who did not look like them. i think that is the bigger concern that people going forward should have. they will be poor in four years, in eight years, but they did not want to give this woman a chance because of their own bias and that is unfortunate. host: maria is in illinois on

our line for democrats. good morning. caller: trump should be behind bars as well as biden, hunter. hunter should be not above the law as well as trump. trump is not finished with this world, but it will take jesus to take care of everything. trump will be behind bars. he is not above the law. host: thomas is in illinois on our line for republicans. good morning. caller: i just noticed something over the last four elections. that in 2012 we democrats got 65.9 million votes front 2016 clinton got 65.8 million.

2020, biden got 81.2 and this year harris got 60 8.6. democrats lamenting the fact that harris could not maintain the level that biden got, i think this demonstrates very effectively that trump won the last time. because of the -- there is no way that that many new votes -- that the total votes in 2020 was 20 million votes more than any of the last four elections. it proves that to me the extra votes that came in the previous

election were bogus. host: next is virginia in california. good morning. caller: i wanted to question this talk about immigration and the vote from 2008 and all of this. i am concerned about medicare and the social security system. i do not know these people realize and how many young and old are calling in, but -- host: your line is bringing up a little bit. caller: i am right here. host: go ahead. caller: i was disturbed about all of this talk and concerned about throwing out social security, medicare, a lot of

programs that help everyone in united states and some of the other things today -- i do not think that even heard that he is in the process of tossing these things aside. how are we going to survive? thank you. host: thomas is in michigan on our line for democrats. can you hear us? caller: i can hear you. i don't understand how people that voted for trump realize what is in store for the next four years or it might be the next eight. the man is a criminal. you might as well let any criminal out to run for president. with trump -- trump is a monster, ok? i cannot hear you. host: i did not say anything.

caller: i saw your mouth moving that is all i had to say. it is going to be like a roller coaster up and down with more down than ups. host: mark is in missouri on our line for republicans. caller: i think the american people should understand what is going on with the democratic party. kamala harris, we haven't heard much from her in the last couple years she was in office or has been in office. she has been in south america recruiting people to come to the border and says they will fast track people into our country within three months. that was our border bill. that was on the border bill, to fast-track illegals coming in to become citizens. i think the american people need to know this. host: claude is in san diego on

our line for independents. caller: i will say that the american people seem to have lost faith in the democratic party behind rach primaries and things like that, not just with this election -- rigged primaries and things like that, not just this election. a gentleman said something about 20 million lost votes. i will say that during the hillary clinton election i noticed a lot of -- and then the 2020 election a lot more people voted because the pandemic was an issue, so i do not feel like there was 20 million lost votes. i just feel like there was more motivation to vote, like this election.

or people were motivated to vote because everybody is hurting. the economy was the number one issue and it seems like democrats ignored it. host: daniel is in texas on our line for republicans. go ahead. what is your comment? caller: trump was in office for four years. we had the best economy in the world. -- to canada -- so the thing is when biden got in office and his first few days he unplugged america. host: i think we have lost your line. let's hear from roland in

maryland on our line for democrats. good morning. caller: thanks for taking my call. the press never insists -- with trump? democrats sometimes -- i feel like -- how many jobs were created during trump? they cannot answer it. trump inherited the obama economy. can anybody republican call from west virginia and states like that? and tell me what has changed from when obama was there to win trump was there and how his trump -- your life? it is a sad case.

if you voted for trump 100% -- find ways to come up with excuses that it is the economy, even though she is promising to help. i want republicans to answer me. and especially west virginia. host: john is in massachusetts on our line for independents. caller: it is funny how our taxes have gone to the upper echelon's higher class, like the world health organization, the trilateral commission, the council on foreign relations, the united nations, all european countries who basically have colonized the world. you have anthony sutton who told you the united states with the other countries were supposed to

pardon communism and fascism so now we have zionism in israel and a bunch of pedophiles at the higher echelons, so why are these people not in prison, since they are murdering people all over the planet? colored people cannot have a place to go without some european bombing their country over the resources. let's get with it right now. we are being colonized in this country. so i think people should get up because there are two sides of the same coin. trump and biden are nothing but zionists. rothschild zionists, at that. i want people to do real research. host: we will have to end it there because we are out of time today. thanks to everyone who called in. we weep -- we'll will be back tomorrow morning. have a great day.

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