♪ host: good morning, it is monday, november 11, veterans day across america. we bring you a four hour

"washington journal," ahead of a wreath-laying ceremony and remarks from president biden. right now we begin from hearing from you. we want to know what veterans day means for you and your family. veterans and their family members, (202) 748-8000. for active-duty memory -- military it is (202) 748-8001. all others it is (202) 748-8002. you can also send us a text this morning at (202) 748-8003, please include your name and where you are from. catch up with us on social media. a very good monday morning, happy veterans day, we are taking your calls this morning. go ahead and start calling now. we are hoping to talk to some of

the 18 million living veterans making up 6% of the u.s. population. more stats from the pew research group noting seven point 8 million living u.s. veterans or 43% served in the gulf war. 5.6 million living veterans served during the vietnam era. around 767,000 veterans served during the korean conflict and they make up about 4% of all living veterans. fewer than one hundred 20,000 world war ii veterans are alive today. they make up less than 1% of all living veterans. we want to talk to them this morning and their families. all americans on this veterans day asking you what veterans day means to you. (202) 748-8000 four veterans and their families. (202) 748-8001 if you are active-duty. (202) 748-8002 for all others.

we will start with trish, family member of a veteran, good morning. caller: hi, good morning. i wanted to -- my father was a veteran he was in world war ii. he was a navigator. what i am calling about today and i think everybody -- what i want to focus on for veterans day is the two female aviators that recently crashed their growlers and were subsequently killed. one was lieutenant commander lindsay evans. she was a growler instructor. and then lieutenant serena wildman. they were both 31 and from

california. a little bit of their history, the usa was carrier based off the uss eisenhower. multiple combat missions. those are the people i want to celebrate, especially today. it might've everything that has happened. women should be honored and acknowledged every day, all day. they are the best of the best. i feel so sorry for the families. i would like to honor all the women that stay home and keep the home fires burning. they don't get the recognition they deserve.

to all of those women, thank you. to lieutenant commander lindsay evans and serene are mild -- serena wildman, thank you. host: roger in kansas, good morning. caller: good morning. i want to second what the lady just said. this is a very special day for veterans and a special day for the united states. as a former veteran and also a lifetime teacher in the philadelphia school district, i wish to protest that they did not close the schools today to honor our veterans. how will the children learn patriotism if they keep the schools open on veterans day? that is just outrageous. thank you. host: where did you serve?

we lost roger. john in portland, connecticut. good morning. caller: yes. host: go ahead. caller: thank you for putting this program on today. i want to wish all my family and friends who have served for our country, especially my dad, served in the philippines. short story was he actually met his brother on the other end of an island in the philippines during world war ii. both of those men came home. it was an amazing story. host: i want to hear more about the story, how did he meet his brother? caller: my father was at one end of the island, he was a sharpshooter. a sergeant said there's another

one at the other end of the island. the sergeant got a jeep somehow and got the two of them together. as it turned out there was one other man from middletown, connecticut, my uncle. three men from middletown, connecticut were on the same island during world war ii in the philippines and served and came home together. host: how many members of your family have served in the military? caller: i would say if i were to guess, 20. host: why is it such a big part of your families legacy? caller: just what they wanted to do to serve our country. as proud men and women for our country. i have lost some close friends

in vietnam. i'm glad that our country is strong. we need more of it today in this climate that we are in. i salute every man and woman out there right now serving us proudly. god bless this country. make it strong. host: what branch? caller: navy. host: thanks for the call. ray is in elizabeth city, north carolina. also a navy veteran. caller: thank you for taking my call. this day is so important because of the lessons. the lessons we must remember, the lessons learned, hard lessons about freedom.

i'm a u.s. navy veteran. i was in the indian ocean in 1980 during the iranian hostage crisis. for the entire time i was there, i felt like we were part of the crisis in iran. i'm so glad it was resolved. my grandfather served in world war i, my dad served in world war ii. we have so many stories that we could share of hero is him -- heroism and sacrifice. this is a day to do that. host: what is one of those family stories you always share? caller: one story as my grandfather. he served in world war i, he was a sergeant in charge of all of the music. he knew don phillips personally.

our one-story was during a break in the fighting -- sorry if i get emotional about this. he heard a cry from no man's land, help me, i'm hurt. he knew it was one of our guys. my grandfather was a member of the red cross. he said i'm going to go get him. who is with me? those guys got the gurney and reached the man. even though my grandfather had a red cross band on, he was still shot at. he got hit in the leg twice and in the arm.

he said basically to hell with the pain, i'm getting this guide to safety. he got a medal of valor for that. i'm proud, i'm just so thankful for freedom and those who defended our freedom. as a u.s. navy that i will always be thankful for freedom and our constitution. i will always step up for it. host: what was your grandfather's name if you don't mind sharing? caller: he was harry clark sr., he was a bandmaster sergeant out of the one 35th in world war i. host: thanks for telling us about harry clark sr., another harry in oregon, good morning. caller: thank you.

host: go ahead. caller: amide on the air? host: yes, go ahead. what does veterans day mean to you? caller: i'm 77 years old, i fought for five years in vietnam with the marine corps. back then, i was in the sniper platoon for a while and they moved me around a lot, i was such a good shot. i worked on the dmz, if you know what that was. host: explain what it is for those who don't know. caller: the line was drawn between north and south vietnam. i was never further than a quarter of a mile from north vietnam. any time an aircraft -- i was a marine working out of the

border, do you follow me? any time an aircraft went down, i was the sniper for the team that would go to rescue the pilots and the other people on the aircraft and then destroy the aircraft. we are not known very much. the truth of the matter is everybody in this country sends people out to die but they don't give a damn about them. look at all these homeless veterans, any time guy has a sign sitting on the sidewalk, i give him $100. i have a boatload of money now. i inherited it, i did not earn it. we are worried about all of these people who have infiltrated our country but we are not willing to save our veterans. it's a shame.

host: what are you going to do today on veterans day? caller: i've got a 1955 corvette i'm driving in the parade. host: in bend, oregon? caller: yes. host: thanks for calling in, telling us about your service. caller: listen, hold on. this is the first time i ever had the inclination to call you. i thought it might be a waste of time. the bottom line of the whole thing is you people and the way you pose your questions about veterans, i 100% approve of. most people don't know what a veteran is or give a damn as long as they don't have to go fight. when i joined the marine corps

in 1966, all the rich kids were going to canada or college because then they couldn't be drafted. i one day woke up and i was going to go get drunk with some friends, this is 1966. it was legal to drink at 18 back then. believe it or not, next door is a marine corps recruiter, all of a sudden i had this epiphany sitting down and joined the marine corps. the smartest thing i ever did in my entire life. host: there wasn't a day you regretted it? caller: excuse me? host: there wasn't a day you regretted that decision? caller: no. how could you regret $58,000 -- 58 thousand human beings died in vietnam. you realize that something has

got to change. the only thing i could do to make that change was to join the marine corps. when i went into the marine corps after boot camp they sent me to itr, infantry training where i had to go on the range. on the first day i shot a perfect score. on the second day, two of the instructors went against me and i beat them. i have been a gunfighter, my grandfather died on a submarine during world war ii. my father was shot down over iwo jima in world war ii. he was shot down and the rest of the family had to take care of all of us, my mom, my older brother, my dad, who was wounded terribly.

somehow it made me patriotic. you understand what i am saying? host: i do. i appreciate you telling us about it. i hope you have great weather for your parade today. next in arkansas, the line for veterans, good morning. caller: thank you for being here for us. i'm a military brat. i grew up on military bases, it is a wonderful experience. it is safe, secure, kids kept out of trouble because if you got in trouble your father or mother would be called into the commanding officer. my dad was a 20 year lifer. my youngest brother died, my uncle served in vietnam and korea. the other uncle served in korea. they all made it back ok.

every young person i know i urge them to join the military. get a trade you could use to feed yourself the rest of your life. i don't think there should be mandatory draft or anything. i think everybody owes something back to their country. people were wounded and died for that freedom. i thank god for our military bases and i can't urge young people enough to get out there and join the military. something you could have the rest of your life to feed yourself. if it's not the trade or skill you want, you could get loans to go to school. it is a wonderful opportunity for people. what pays for your freedom other than your time and life? thank you and god bless. i have been watching c-span

since ron brown was killed. god bless america. host: thanks for the call and for being a long-time viewer. you mentioned joining the military, currently there is about 2 million americans who are a part of the active military, mostly young people. the breakdown of the branches in which they serve, 47%, almost half of all service members are in the army. 24% are in the air force, 19% are enlisted in the navy, 10% are in the marine corps. the group mission roll call took a look at the number of attendance for those in the military. about one point 6 million military dependent family members rely on families that have at least one active duty member. we will talk more about rubes

like mission roll call -- groups like mission roll call. spending this first hour hearing from you on this question, what does veterans day mean to you? it is an extended "washington journal" today. the president is expected to speak from arlington national cemetery at 11:00 a.m. eastern. there is a wreath-laying ceremony that will take place before the president's remarks. the vice president expected to join him for that service. we will show you that live. we will take this program up until that event scheduled for 11:00 a.m. eastern. plenty of calls always on veterans day, memorial day, this is how we split up our phone lines today. (202) 748-8000 four veterans and their families. (202) 748-8001 active-duty.

all others, (202) 748-8002. please send us your texts as well. we will look to read and share your stories. this is richard in minneapolis on the line for veterans. caller: good morning. i would like to take today and remember the crew of pr-21. it got shot down in april, 1969 in the sea of japan by north korea. i think we should have taken care of north korea back then when they didn't have the bomb. there was a lot of good friends on pr-21. i had one more thing, i think president trump should defend ukraine as much as we can or as much as it has been supporting. some of the commentators said

trump might give up ukraine and might give up taiwan. these dictators in these communist countries will just push their way and try to rule the world. hats off to pr-21. it got shot down in the sea of japan. one of my friends was -- host: one of your friends was on pr-21? caller: i knew all of the crewmembers. host: what kind of plain was it? caller: it was a four engine propeller driven super constellation they called it.

we did electronic intelligence in the sea of japan, north korea, china, russia. we had to stay 12 miles away from the shore. that was the international waters when we are out 12 miles from any country shore. we went to vietnam and patrolled north vietnam. host: thanks for telling us about pr-21. on the foreign policy challenges facing america today, places where there has been plenty of discussions about what the u.s.

presence should be and if there should be a military presence, this story from the op-ed pages of the "washington times trump facing challenges, russia, china, iran affecting the world order. deterrence as tactics for a perilous world and one more from the pages of the "new york times." it is the bottom story, trump shouldn't let putin claim a win in ukraine. a senior official suggesting that any peace deal negotiated by donald trump allows vladimir putin to claim victory in ukraine would undermine the interest of the united states, its admiral, the dutch chairman of the military community saying if you allowing nation like russia to come out of this, what does it mean for other

autocracies of the world where the u.s. also has interests? president trump has said he could end the war in a day. an outline from jd vance echo what putin wants allowing them to keep the territory it has captured in guaranteeing nato -- ukraine will not join nato. a spokesperson for the transitional team said he was reelected because the american people trust him to lead our country and restore peace through strength around the world. back to your phone calls this morning asking you what does veterans day mean to you? what are you doing today to observe the holiday? this is dave in auburn, new york, a good morning. caller: i was not going to call today but i persisted and i got in. i did a year in vietnam,

1967-1968. i was a drafty. -- draftee. i never heard of the place. i tried to compartmentalize the longest, shortest year of my life. i come away with this, it was my turn to stand up. i went. i regret some of it, what i had to see. i should write a book but i don't think i've got that in me. i'm just sitting here having a cup of coffee, looking at you. i'm glad the people do appreciate our veterans. i get calls occasionally. today i will get some. host: what kind of calls?

caller: we owe this country. just take your turn, whether it is right or wrong. host: what will those calls be like today on veterans day? caller: they will thank me. we get a lot of rhetoric. i attended meetings here with the city council, they talk about how they appreciate -- i really don't know if they do. doing things for veterans, i was on a reconnaissance platoon. that was the real deal. i'm not saying that but combat infantry, those are the guys

that didn't come back. i'm not some of those guys, i know them, they are on the wall. host: what could somebody do today to express their appreciation? what would be something you would want? is it one of those calls? caller: i just got a call from my buddy. i texted over my phone while waiting to talk to you guys. he will buy me a sandwich today, he's a good guy. i find it difficult to express -- to share what i did is hard to do. you can't explain it. you can't. host: can i ask one more question? if you don't want to share it is fine. you started by saying the year in vietnam was the longest shortest year of your life, why was it the longest?

why was it the shortest? caller: i remember so much from it. you don't know -- there are so many unknowns. you are just there. you get assignment and you go. you don't have time to think about it. the long year, i could remember so much of it. personal relationships, there was a lot of real humans that i could talk to, get along with. i tell you, it isn't a hollywood movie, it is different. you could taste it and feel it. it is in your bones. host: thanks for the call,

appreciate it. good morning. caller: god bless c-span. i love your coverage of this election. the only thing i would like to see is a red map by county instead of by state. if you did it by county, there would be no doubt in anybody's mind. i'm a volunteer vietnam veterans. i volunteered for the army, mp school. i signed up for three years. i volunteered for vietnam. i spent 10 months in vietnam. i got out in 1971. i became a sergeant. i commanded over 100 men.

one of those people your last caller was talking about regarding the base camp, we guarded the helicopters and personnel in between the bunkers where other soldiers were doing their century work. we got rocketed continually every month. i remember rockets going over my head. they said if you don't hear them , that's the one that has your name on it. i didn't think about it too much until i got to the end of my 10 month. i realized i might get out of here alive. i started imagining a rocket had my name on it. they actually took me off duty the last few weeks and run the

club. i just want to suggest, i hope somebody from the cabinet of trump is listening. we need to give every american with two years of service, i think that would work really well, president trump would say, who wants to commit their life for two years or maybe even risk their life, it is my birthday today. i had 13-14 surgeries and procedures. i live every day like it is my last. host: how old are you? caller: i am 70 four today. i never thought i would make it.

host: if you could go back and talk to that young girl in the last couple weeks, what would you tell him? caller: i don't know. i think i would tell him what my football coaches used to tell me , you better do your deal, stay in shape, some of you are going to vietnam. i took that to heart. all through my training, i was the best shot, best athlete, i knew i was going to go to war. the boy scouts taught me that, be prepared. that would be my advice, be prepared because you never know when your country might need

you. host: you worked with the dogs in vietnam, is there one that you remember? caller: his name was cal. i guarded nuclear weapons in cleveland. he was a wonderful dog. i volunteered for vietnam, i wanted to get where it was warmer. i left powell with a sheriff's department. host: thanks for sharing with us this morning. let me go to michael in maryland. outline for veterans, good morning. caller: hello. i may 30 year veteran.

i just have my biggest complaint is our veterans are disabled veterans, they have to rely on charities to get them a home, food, get them different things that they need. our government should pay for them. not much more you could do for them. traumatic brain injuries, they need to be taken care of. they need to be taken care of by government. i never really had to do the va because i retired with 30 years, i could use private hospitals.

an event that is so important to veterans. the v.a., i have never been very impressed with them, all of the stories i heard. people that i have known that were veterans that had to go to the v.a., none of them had anything nice to say about them. not one thing. host: does it surprise you -- this is again from one of the things you were talking about, mission roll call, we will talk to them later today. they survey veterans. one of the questions they ask is what it was -- is what was the hardest transition, one was identifying the process of navigating the v.a.. that was the hardest transition. 26%, finding a job, establishing a routine. 30% was the v.a. process.

caller: i never really interacted with the v.a., the transition to civilian life, i was impressed with the job i got right out of the military. the people were extremely nice, professional, i could not believe how efficient they were. host: what did you do? caller: i ran an emergency center. i did training for them. host: like emergency responders? caller: yes, for chemical spills. i did explosive ordnance disposal in the military. i did the same thing that other guy. i was a dog handler and i went to patrol dog and then drug dog. that was interesting hearing from him. sentry dogs were one of the first dogs, they had very little

control over them but they were very efficient. host: people with dogs remember particular dogs, do you remember one? caller: i had two, my attack dog was major, the one that i really remember was nemo, an air force dog that was attacked. he was still alive and there when i was going through school. he was shot and hit in the shoulder. they actually taxidermy, he is still at the air force base. that is the dog i really remember, nemo. very courageous. host: this is robert out of colorado, good morning. caller: how are you? host: doing well. caller: i served in the navy, i

was a vietnam veteran, we trained spotters off of san diego. the reason i'm calling is my dad , he was then with the general when they formed one group in salt lake city back in 1942. he got in the service, had to pass the physicals and everything. being a bombardier, he was trained at the air force base. he went across to england in 1942 and flew missions from october, 1942 until april of 1943 when he got shot down.

there were 18 missions that he flew on. there were several missions to make it through the war. on april 3, 1943, there was an effort against the plant. they had 26 planes, b-17's. in that pod, three of the four airplanes were shot down. interesting because most of them died. 18 out of 30 passed away, my dad was a lucky one. his navigator was a good friend. they got shot down, he was

worried about the river, he could not swim. they were supposed to work him back but they turned him over to the germans. could you hear me? host: yes. was he in a prison camp? caller: three months. there was another guy from colorado also in the same camp, kind of interesting. he was a fighter pilot. a good movie to watch is 12:00, during the war, the bombers didn't have escorts. they headed to the coast over the channel may be, that was it.

there were three or four clusters and he had a purple heart. he seemed able to tolerate it. there were some groups that try to get together to talk about these things. host: when we did our coverage from june 6 of this year on the 80th anniversary of d-day, lot was set at the time about the dwindling numbers, that we are losing so many world war ii veterans daily. we are down to 100,000 living world war ii veterans, maybe less. usa today has a story in today's paper about a man's 100 birthday in ohio, he served under george

patton. fought in the battle of the bulge. i wonder about your thoughts on what we lose when we lose that population? caller: i don't know, those guys were true americans. patton and also veterans from world war ii, patton was moved back to a campground and he came in the barrack and he was taking a shower when that happened. host: patton caught him in the shower? caller: the germans didn't have that much food and so forth, when they marched him back from the eastern front, it is part of: now the way they shifted

things around. they had cigarettes and candy bars and things like that. he traded his cigarettes because he did not smoke. when they marched back it got really cold. it was pretty bad. marching west to stay away from the russians. it was an interesting thing. he was pretty smart. they had him in a large building and then they would get him up in the morning, he would get up early, when everybody else got up the train was too crowded. it was an interesting thing. host: thanks for telling us about it, what was his name? caller: robert fattick. i will tell you about another one. there is a 101-year-old veteran

on d-day. he is still alive down in arizona. i asked him, what did you do. the door dropped open and i drove the jeep off. he was in the battle of the bulge and so forth. he was lucky. there are unlucky guys and lucky guys. just like the three airplanes that got shut down -- shot down. of the 30 people, 18 of them passed away. they all have families. host: i have several more folks waiting. thanks for telling us about him. this is lynn in columbia, maryland. thanks for waiting. caller: our declaration of independence refers to these truths we hold self-evident. i want to remind people of what a self-evident truth is.

some truths are debatable or arguable. other truths are self-evident. i know it when i see it, you know it when you see it. i know a controlled demolition when i see one without a doubt. do you? host: we are talking about veterans day today. caller: anyone who failed to question norad on the morning of 9/11. host: we will hold off on the 9/11 conspiracy theories today, we want to talk about veterans experiences. this is neil in south carolina. thanks for waiting. caller: good morning. i hope you are well today. we celebrate veterans day all the way back to the revolutionary war. i have two great great grandfathers that served under george washington during that

war. one was killed, the other was wounded badly. our families have served in the military. world war ii my father was a b-7 crewmember. he was shot down on his 17th mission. going forward to the korean war, i had two brothers that served, both of them in the army. i have a younger brother that served in vietnam. he was a marine. i served in vietnam, i was air force intelligence, reconnaissance, surveillance. we were surveilling the communications the north vietnamese were sending

we would get there radio signal, if we wanted to take them out we called in the bombers and continued to communicate. we wanted to track them to see what they were doing. i have two sons -- grandsons i'm sorry. they are in the marine corps. they both went in together, they both serve now. our family goes back a long way. i hope people will get out and honor our veterans, show your support for them. host: thanks for the call. 18 million living veterans right now. neil mentioned his family goes back to the revolutionary war. larry and new jersey says my five-time great-grandfather fought in the revolution. my unc e was in the first world r. my father was on carrier randolph in the pacific and hit twice by, because the.

my heart goes out to anyone who has to serve in war. a couple other text messages, scott saying please remember coast guard veterans. one more from richard on facebook, veterans day is a day to stop for a momt and consider the sacricethe few made for the my. the first 18 years of my existence, thanks to dad and 30 years of service to the ameran people. justin says veterans day is for someone who wrote a blank check payable up to and including their life. memorial day is for those who paid that bill. this is lucy on facebook saying it is a day to think ouhow we could put an end to war because we have brave men and women that serve, suffer, die in unjust wars that didn'td to happen because leaders were invested in war rather than diplomacy. world war ii wouldn't fall under

the category of unnecessary but every conflict has been unjust. your comments this morning as we come up to 8:00. at 11:00 a.m. eastern today there will be a wreath-laying ceremony at the tomb of the unknown soldier in arlington cemetery. that is the shot of where the wreathlaying will be. the president is expected to participate in the little bit after 11:00 president biden expected to give remarks on this veterans day. expected to be joined by vice president kamala harris. we will take you there live and let you see it, experience it here on c-span. we will keep "washington journal going -- "washington journal" going. we hope you stay up until that ceremony gets going.

caller: good morning. i'm on oxygen so it's a little hard to talk. my father was at pearl harbor. he was walking on the ship. he was credited with the first shot on the japanese. he manned a five-man gun. they fought their way out of pearl harbor. he went to find general macarthur's radioman. he fought his way out of pearl harbor and circled the island. then he went down to get my mother. he thought there. after about three years as a radioman, he was discharged

where he had my brother and my sister. his name was norman. i loved him. he was the greatest soldier -- sailor. i had a brother who served on the constellation. also, vietnam. i was a --i hunted nuclear submarines, i can't say much. back when i was enlisted in 1973 through 1976. it was being commissioned. we never got commissioned because i got out when i had a son. i was ready to serve.

i had a top-secret clearance. they said one day will you fire the nuclear weapon? i said that's pretty young at 17. i did. the next day he said son, we called on you to fire the weapon. will you do that? i said yes sir, i would. i was given a top-secret clearance. my first class was langley. my chief, i don't remember his name. i'm sorry, i have pretty much a photographic memory. we were for texting the shores off the atlantic pacific until we put up our sonar so we could listen for nuclear submarines.

i can't talk a lot about it. we had bc-10 turbine engines and variable pitch propeller to keep up with the enterprise. we were ready to go. we protected and went to a passive sonar where we learned exactly what the maneuvers would do. we learned how to do it. i've had some great men in my life like robbie tollar, a m arine. i lost him recently. i just think that was a

hero. when the japanese planes came in, you saw a little bit of smile and he took one of them down. that ship was credited for taking down the first one, a destroyer north of arizona and all of the battleships. i will answer any questions from their. host: thank you for telling us about your family and friends. that's what we are trying to do today, give folks a chance to talk about what veterans day means to them, what they are doing today. a few more minutes here in this segment. we will talk about veterans issues all morning long. this is victor out of texas. thanks for waiting. caller: good morning. victor hugo in texas, served in

the air force, 24 years. vietnam, 1969, started my career in texas. they put me in communication and electronics. never heard of the word computer, didn't know how to spell it. we went to vietnam, the maintenance responsibility. the 10 50's that were deployed at each place. ultimately had responsibility for all radio, radar, telephone. the northernmost sector of vietnam all the way up from the base right on the dmz.

the underground base. the only thing above ground were mayan tennis -- my antennas. i want to wish a happy birthday to that young man that called in about four or five persons ago who is 74 today. very distinguished birthday. mine comes up on the seventh of december. i will be 84 on that date. host: what was it like growing up being born on december 7? caller: very interesting. my dad was in the navy, don most of the time. my uncle was in the marine corps. served as a naval aid to general clark. host: did your navy family think

december 7 -- what did they think about having you born on december 7 in the navy family? caller: it was kind of a feather in my dad's hat, he planned it. i was born a year before the japanese bombed pearl harbor. when i was born they should've known something would happen on that date. president trump has a birthday on the 14th of june, flag day. he also has a distinguished birthday. not too many people born on these special days. it is unfortunate that today, 11 , november falls 364 days short in recognizing the veterans.

the veterans administration or whatever they are called today, you have to prove everything to them. there are no records in some cases. in vietnam, what happened to the record? who knows. i was stationed in berlin, also considered a war zone, four years i spent there. it just disappears. you cannot prove anything. there are no records. no record that it happened. host: stick around, we will talk more about the v.a. and some of the issues you bring up. let me get one more collar in before we had to break. this is jeremiah in clifton, new jersey. thanks for waiting. caller: good morning. 81 years old and i would like to lift up two fighter pilots. host: who would you like to lift

up today? caller: i don't know their names. i know their faces. they were good guys. i spent a year in vietnam, 1966 -1967. that's all i have to say. host:host: do know when you sawe fighter pilots or why them in particular? caller: it was a night mission. they never came back. it has been on my mind. host: thanks for calling in today.

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