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c-span now, your front row seat to washington anytime, anywhere. washington journal continues. host: welcome back. for more on president elect trump's inauguration tomorrow and the moment we are in american politics we are joined now by post-truth indication strategist frank months. welcome back to washington journal. guest: i enjoy the phone calls, i enjoyed the give-and-take. i don't enjoy the anger. going to try to get through the segment lowering the decibel level between america and their political leaders. host: i know we've got some special content for you to help us do that. what is your take on this moment? president elect trump is going to be the first presidency grover cleveland to have a nonconsecutive term. put his margin of victory in context rest.

49.9% of the vote, just 1.5% above vice president harris. with this in mind, how should president-elect trump proceed tomorrow and also his first 100 days? guest: i will tell you that i was surprised. it's going to be dramatic. this is an administration that is going to hit the ground running. i know that some callers are going to be upset with what he does. i know that there is among his own supporters a unanimity that they want to act quickly, that they want aggressive approach, and i believe that in a democracy the minority should be heard. in a democracy we have the responsibility to represent everyone regardless of whether they voted for you or not. and i think we sometimes forget that, but this administration believes that it has a mandate to not change, because that is the wrong word, but to bring

about a different relationship between washington and the public and i'm expecting tomorrow a low the doors off speech and 24 to 48 hours of really aggressive action. host:'s last inauguration speech very famously referenced american carnage. what do you expect of the tone tomorrow? guest: i think it will be tough, although i've got to tell you, it surprises me all the time. when i'm expecting someone is going to come out fighting, there is an appreciation of other points of view. when i expect is going to take a conciliatory tone, he comes out fighting. he's the most unpredictable president in my lifetime, and there are a lot of his supporters who like that and a belief that too much verdict ability is actually not a good thing in american politics. host: president biden is scheduled to attend the trump inauguration tomorrow. trump did not attend his

inauguration. what message do you think this sends going forward? guest: so important. you accept the peaceful transition of power. you accept the fact that there are winners and losers in mock receipt, and you respect both of them, and i wish that we in this country were not just good losers, but also good winners, that we recognize that not everyone agrees with us. i will get phone calls today from people who disagree with even this opening. i'm expecting that and appreciate that. that is what is so great about america, that we have the opportunity to articulate a different point of view and then you go to work. and then you have a meal with your family, and you go out and take a walk. you can disagree and nothing happens to you. and i know our men and women in uniform, that is the best thing about our democracy and even countries like south korea. they can't depend on that.

we are very blessed to be here and blessed to be here this morning and i look forward to the next 24 hours. host: let's listen to a portion of president biden's farewell address. biden: you know, it will take time to feel the full impact of all that we've done together, but the seeds are planted and they will grow and they will bloom for decades to come. at home we created nearly 17 million new jobs, more than any other single administration in a single term. more people have health care than ever before. and overseas we strengthened nato. ukraine is still free and we pulled ahead of our competition with china. so much more. i'm so proud of how much we've accomplished together for the american people. and i wish the incoming administration success because i want america to succeed. that's why i've upheld my duty

to ensure a peaceful and orderly transition of power, to ensure we lead by the power of our example. i have no doubt that america is in a position to continue to succeed. that's why my farewell address tonight i want to warn the country of some is giving me great concern. this is a dangerous power in the hands of a very few ultra wealthy people. the dangerous consequences if their abuse of power is left unchecked. today, an oligarchy is taking shape in america of extreme wealth, power and influence that literally threatens our entire democracy. our basic rights and freedoms, and a fair shot for everyone to get ahead. host: president biden there mentioned oligarchy and yesterday, president-elect trump held a party for roughly 500 donors, friends and other

supporters at his golf club in virginia. much has been made of the mega- billionaires who will be on the dais at his inauguration and their influence and power. what are your thoughts on president biden's speech and his warnings about oligarchy in particular? guest: both sides have mega- billionaires supporting them. when i was younger i didn't care that much about the influence of money in politics because i thought that it was a positive, it helped people get the message out. i'm not as convinced today because i think it drowns out criticism and it drowns out the other side. our constitution guarantees a right to freedom of speech, but everyone should have that freedom, not just those that have done well. but conversely, those that have done well should not be punished for their success. don't believe that just because somebody is wealthy that they should be condemned and criticized which is what is happening right now.

in the end, you are judged by your behavior, by your actions, by your deeds rather than how much money you have in your bank account. at least, i wish we were. host: more accurate in saying that both democrats and republicans have mega-billionaires and millionaires backing them, but the complaint this time around is that some of these extremely wealthy people have different kind of access to the incoming white house. do you agree with that assessment? guest: it depends on what industry. that the democratic nominee for president was attracting huge donations. multimillion dollar donations. and actually, the democrats spend more than the republicans, i believe for the first time. and so we have to look at with the facts are in situations like this. donald trump has wealthy friends. so does vice president harris. donald trump has access to many, many millions of dollars in politics.

so does vice president harris. if we have an issue with money in politics we should apply it to both sides, not just one side. host: reuters reports that trump is preparing a flood of executive orders and directives that could total more than 100 for day one and beyond. immigration, border wall, energy production, pardons for some people convicted of their actions on january 6. what do you think the public wants from the president-elect tomorrow, president trump to do right off the bat, and what do they not wanting to do? guest: the number one issue in america is still affordability. can they afford their food and fuel, can they afford their housing and their health care? and they want something done with that. number two in a close second is immigration. take control of the border, make sure that i people who are coming here are coming in the right way.

america is not anti-immigrant, anti-illegal immigrant. they want people to come here to register to pay their taxes, and they welcome people coming here, but not streaming across the border like in the last four years. and number three, it is about quality of life. from education to health care to crime, that they want to feel safe and secure in their homesah me, i look forward to celebrating with adamant represent it's more than duty, honor and country. which we are going to show in just a little bit. last month you held a focus group at west point. we are going to listen to a clip of a tape where a cadet is discussing his hopes for the new year, and his thoughts on american duty and leadership.

guest: with this being the end of the year and the beginning of a new one, how can we explain, duty, honor, country? >> it's in our history. to go back to the constitution with 200 years of american history, you know that leaders of character committed to the values of duty, honor and country is what made america so excellent when you hear american exceptionalism, for me that is what comes to mind. when you hear the story of the patriots during the battle of fort mchenry throwing themselves and their bodies at that flagpole just to keep old glory flying just so there is one symbol of hope for the americans out there that the flag was still flying. guest: don't you get emotional telling that story? >> a little bit. when i hear the story and i think both patriots signing that blank check and giving everything up just to keep that

flag flying, that is duty, honor and country right there. that is the reason why the constitution has survived over 200 years, why the american dream and are excellent and exceptionalism has survived for 200 years. in all of us are at west point are committed to that because we know that america needs leaders of character and that is what i and everyone else here has been called to do. so if america needs one reason to hope for this new year coming up, it is that everyone here is committed to that same excellence, that same leader, committed to be that same leader of character through our values of duty, honor and country. host: and i want to get your follow-up response to that but first i want to have a look at your shoes, you have some really special shoes you are wearing that actually have west point. you can show them off for the camera, a pretty cool design. tell us a little bit about that project. guest: i was attending the army navy game and i'm going to say something that is -- i shouldn't

say. i watched army marched on the field. i watched navy march onto the field. and i didn't care for one moment that army beat navy, even though i'm wearing a beat navy t-shirt under here, i will not do that to viewers, this is sunday, this is a family show, but for one moment i didn't care one because watching these men and women marched on the field, america won. and so i wear this stuff with me, i look forward to celebrating with adamant represent it's more than duty, honor and country. it is selfless sacrifice, character and conviction and courage. it is a willingness to make the ultimate sacrifice for the

people beside them and for the country they represent. these academies are exceptional, they are extraordinary because the student to attend them, the cadets are exceptional and extraordinary. >> you're talking about leadership and courage, and so was the student who was just featured in that clip. i want to read a portion of the special counsel jack smith report that came out this week that the through line of alr. tmp's criminal effort deceit, knongly false claims of election fraud and the evidence shows that mr. trump used tbe his lies as a weo deat a federal government function foundational to the united states thematic -- democratic process. how do you reconcile that for with what these cadets are asking for in terms of leadership from any leader in the united states government? guest: the great thing about west point and the naval academy, the air force academy,

there is not a shred of partisanship, not a shred of politics. that they serve the constitution . i don't think that americans know this. their responsibility is not to president biden or president trump, it is that sacred document that is 10 blocks from where we are in the studio, and every time i bring them to washington i take him to that document and i step back and i let them look at the constitution and all that it represents, and i thank god for that piece of paper because it has created the most exceptional, extraordinary country and the most wonderful young people who serve. and i wish and i hope and i pray that we get a chance -- we won't, you and i won't be here, but we are going to celebrate our 250th birthday shortly and i hope that we get another 250.

and the key to that is accountability. personal responsibility, and most importantly, the truth. these are the things that are taught at west point. i wish all the callers, all of us focused on the truth, if that is what makes for a strong country area post: let's go to stash host: let's go to some of our callers. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. mike is in new jersey on the line for independents. caller: frank, thank you for being on an good morning to everybody there. my key question is how would you rank president biden as a president from a to f? i'm not going to mention

immigration, or all that stuff but everyone knows about. what i'm going to talk about is the segment you raised about character. let's talk about character. character is responsibility, truth. i think that an egregious fault of biden was claiming that he could run for reelection? yes, he was essentially deceiving the american black. i think that is a major character flaw and essentially that man should have never even considered running if he had the interest of the american people at heart. that is how i want you to rate president biden on character? thank you. guest: it was a mistake for him to do it. he should not have run. he did it because he thought he

was the only one who could defeat donald trump and he waited too long to make that decision, and that the faith was truly a stashed debate was truly historic. if biden had not debated trump, the american people would not have seen that difference and it would have changed the election. but that is what history is about. events strung together to give us a narrative about what is going on. and i think that that will be the thing that soon-to-be former president will regret. that instead of going out with his whole list of accomplishments, he will end his administration having to defend why he stayed in so long and sought to get the democratic nomination. host: peter is a new york on the line for republicans, good morning. caller: good morning. happy new.

-- happy new year, frank. a couple of things. why did president trump get elected? president trump got elected for two reasons. number one, inflation. number two, the border situation. yes, it's true the economy is doing well. people have to remember that the 2017 tax cuts are still in effect, and also the tariffs that president trump put on china are still in place. but the spending that they did in 2021, they passed that other covid bill respect trillion dollars can for the economy, and the inflation reduction act, even larry summers, who is president obama's treasury secretary said that all that spending is going to be inflationary.

when president biden came in, inflation was 1.4%. he got it up to 9%. so the american people who are not really very astute like a lot of people like yourself how the economy works, they feel that when inflation hits them. guest: can i respond? you are absolutely dead on, and i apologize for interrupting but i want to applaud you for your understanding. biden made a big mistake when he said that inflation was transitory. because if you can't afford food and fuel, if you can't afford housing and health care, it's not transitory, and effexor quality-of-life. and people in washington never understood that. you're correct about the spending. one of the things that make people angry us about washington is wasteful spending, and they are frustrated with it. but i'm going to tell you something we are learning right now. the public does not want further

tax cuts, but they don't want a tax increase either. and this is a warning to the people in congress as they decide what they are going to do at the end of the year. they have to address the debt. it is out of control. i think your next guest will agree on that. on the left, on the right, we are in trouble. we spend so much. but the idea that people are going to be taxed more, they can't afford it. not inflation. and whatever party, if a party advocates a tax increase, they will be punished at the next election. host: you're talking about the fact that congress is going to be debating whether or not to extend certain provisions of the tax cuts and jobs act. can you talk a little bit about some of the deals -- ideas being floated for how to extend these tax cuts as republicans have said they want to do, even though it is estimate the cost anywhere between $4 trillion and $6 trillion? guest: you have to also think of

how much it cost the average taxpayer. their taxes go up, whether income or business taxes, and this affects small businesses, family-owned businesses. republicans have to decide how much they want to push this. democrats have to decide whether they really want to go on record saying however much you are taxed, we think you should be taxed more. there are some of the economic disputes that are coming right now. the public wants to protect social security. they want to protect medicare. in the end, and this is really controversial, we really can't affect the debt until we start to look at programs like social security. not now, but heading off into the future as america gets older. and i don't know how they are going to solve it because this building right behind you, they are so divided and so distrustful and they campaign at the drop of a hat.

one of the cadets down here in washington, the cadets that he showed us are actually here in d.c. meeting the generals and admirals and senators in congress for both sides of the aisle. they are asking the question who is serving? you don't get elected to have the title, you get elected to do your job. and i don't know if they can do their jobs. host: rachel is in texas on the line for independents. caller: hello. i understand that illegals working over here, when they get their checks, they get tax withheld out of the checks. that gets paid for social security and they claim they get free insurance. willie don't get insurance, but you cannot deterred them any emergency room they go to. this thing that they are paying $750 a month, that they are

paying illegals, that is not true either. we all know if the supreme court justice, our supreme court justice did not delay trump's trial, he would not be president today because he did cause an insurrection. host: did you have a question for frank? caller: i was wanting to ask him to the illegals cannot file taxes but they get taxes withheld out of the checks that does not go toward social security, so what are we going to do if we don't have that extra money coming in when they deport all these illegals? guest: that is one of the issues -- host: drink of water? guest: viewers who know me for 25, 30 years know that i've had increasing health issues and there's no way in heck i'm going

to miss c-span the day before the inauguration. and there recognize the caller's concerns. in the end, that is why the public wants a permanent, an idea of a, of the results that people -- i've got the calling data for you. the public wants to build a security barrier. the public wants to allow those who came under the dream act, to legalize that and allow people to pursue citizenship, and they want to open up legal immigration. building a barrier is with the trump people want. the dream act is what democrats want. and most people are not hostile to immigration, they just want the right way. you combine those three

together, the present support. more than two thirds of democrats, independents and republicans. immigration is solvable. you can't get everything you want, but if you try, you just might get what you need. and they can do this. if they are willing to compromise up there. by the way i'm sitting here in the studio and that is not actually the capital, that is a screen that looks like the capital, and yet when i look at that building i see the men and women inside i see the congressman, i see the senators and i look at it and i think these get along. host: and they did it, they were able to come to a bipartisan immigration deal last year, so we do have some precedent for that even though it didn't become law. host: and then what happens, it gets politicized. president trump as a candidate wanted to emphasize immigration in the campaign, so he suggested that members not support it.

now he has a responsibility to fix it. the public believes that he can. the american public don't want these mass deportations, but other than that, they essentially agree with what he is trying to do, and they disagreed with what biden did not do. but you don't do it out of hate, you don't do it out of anger. your do it to protect those who come here the right way. and the biggest surprise to me, latinos voted more republican this time than any other time water in election the people you would think would oppose the president actually supported him because they agree with his approach. host: are caller mentioned that the contributions of unauthorized immigrants to social security benefit. here's a story about that in the new york times pointing out that undocumented workers often pay taxes that help fund programs like social security even if

they can't collect from them in the future. the social security administration received alien in free money each year from an unexpected source, undocumented immigrant the group paid an estimated 25 point $7 billion in social security taxes in 2022 according to a recent analysis from the institute on taxation and economic policy, a left-leaning tax research group. since unauthorized workers cannot collect retirement and other benefits without a change in their immigration status, the billions they pour into the program effectively act as a subsidy for american beneficiaries. mike in ohio, line for democrats. caller: good day. how are you doing? host: fine, go ahead. caller: yes. frank, we've come a long way since nixon and kissinger stood on the great wall of china and

then said to reagan to tear down that wall not build one. plus, he repealed the fairness doctrine. we need to reinstate that and then we need to talk to clarence over there about citizens united and all the gridlock, the finger-pointing, the dark money, the division, the diversion. the other scare tactics used. host: you are covering a lot of points. what is your question for frank? caller: does he think our recruits, our young men joining the military, it appears to me they've been used as a spear heads for corporate international fascism. how do you feel about that? guest: i don't know what you're talking about. i would tell you the first off

the women at west point -- host: let's play this other clip from your focus group at west point out caller this just mentioning the military academy have another clip. guest: so tell me what the environment is like here. most people have heard of this place, but they have no idea what happens you. they have no idea about the magic or the chemistry or how you all relate to each other. can you explain it to me? >> in itself just the word honor code can sound very rigid but in my opinion i would say it is a promise. it is a promise of the person next to me that i'm going to do my best every day to be the best version of me and you are going to be your best to be the best version of you and that is what creates the trust and the team that everyone thinks, it is because we have a mutual trust and we have that promise that i'm going to do my best every single day for you. host: so what can america learn

from west point? i know you are humble, i know that this is a question that you kind of don't want to answer, what i'm asking you to answer it. what can the united states of america learn from the united states military academy at west point? >> i think the ability to trust one another. that trust that mutually binds us together, it is the largest thing the average american citizens and take away. understand that your neighbor to the left and right, they are there for you and they have good intentions. >> i would echo that, american values are exceptional. they are unlike any others that we see in the world and if american could tap into that, member who we are as a nation, the values that we have, the promise that we have to be the best versions of ourselves. host: i'm watching them and they are here. the people you are seeing on tv

are here and washington, meeting with democrats and meeting with republican and not making a partisan judgment. they are meeting with people in the military, people in politics. this academy is so exceptional because of the people who present the skills, the capabilities. we've got a couple fortune 500 ceos, you're going to talk to them because they understand the sacrifice of those men and women. they work 80, 90 errors a week. it is not just intellectual, it is also military training which is so essential right now and the physical capabilities. i'm embarrassed. i'm fat, i'm slow and i'm old. and when i'm around them, and they are strong and they are vibrant, and they are the best of what we have. and what i love most is when i'm in the room with cadets, i'm the worst human being in that room, and honor code. i trust them.

i don't lock my doors. i leave my wallet out because i know they have my back and they had america's back and that is what makes them exceptional. no matter what happens in this country on shows like this, in that building over there, they will defend the constitution and they will bring our young men and women home safely. host: baltimore, maryland, line for independents. caller: can you hear me? well, this is what i want to say. i grew up in a family with nine daughters, a mother and a father. and my parents died with character. but my mother and father always taught us that what you do as a young one will follow you as an old one. that has always been the truth. and i taught my daughters that. i think the whole united states of america, it is nice look people can do, but what we teach

our children, as they watch us, means more than anything in the world. i would rather be poor and living in a box with my parents than for my father to have no character. the whole united states has lost its way. what will we tell our children? the united states put a man who has no character, who was a sexual assault there, a felon as a president. explain that to the children. host: i believe respond to that point, frank. guest: character counts. character counts when no one is looking. how we behave towards each other, how we show each other this fact. it is more than just having each other's back. it is lifting each other up. you bring accountability to the questions, you are showing articles to say wait a minute,

take a look at this perspective. this is what is supposed to happen in this country. if i make a claim i should be challenged. i have the freedom to make a claim and you have the responsibility to challenge me. you have republicans, independents and democrats to go back and forth, everyone's voice is heard and everyone is respected. everyone gets a chance to ask a question. this is democracy at its best. i want to make sure that c-span is protected, that hosts like you hold us accountable and responsible. this is the way it is supposed to be and it is not this way into many places. host: in that regard, murray of asking given some of the things about president elect donald trump, his convictions, multiple accusations of sexual assault or harassment, and related to what is cadets were saying about character, what are your thoughts? guest: i never combined the two,

ever, and i financed that before. just as they defend the constitution, in a show like this at this moment, i look at the country. what america represents, not just the people who occupy that building or occupy the white house, and ask americans to aspire to something better, to something greater and take responsibility for their actions and demonstrate accountability in everything that they do. host: ed is in ohio on the line for republicans. . caller: good morning. i'm a 30-year-old that -- vet, c5, in good shape, whatever. talk about accountability. how about president biden, he didn't even won the first election if they have released that laptop. you are a pollster.

two weeks after the election was over, what they said after four years, this guy when he was young, he was a grifter his whole 50 year career. and then the media sat for the last four years that they just lost and when he ran against trump, remember that campaign out of the basement. this new four years that he one, he barely did anything, did nothing, and they all taught, the deep state covered him, the journalists, he got away with everything. host: so what are you hoping for frank to address your? guest: the democrats got what they want. caller: even in the border deal. host: i'm going to frank respond to your point. guest: i respect your service and am sorry to interrupt but he doesn't have a question. he wants to be heard. and the problem in america is

that we are not seeking information. we are actually not seeking the truth, we are seeking our truth. there is something that paul simon wrote and i think it is in a song, man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. he never had a question. in your callers on both sides don't have questions, they simply want to be heard and spend give them the ability to earn. and that is the core of anger in this country, the feeling that we've been ignored and forgotten, and even betrayed. this is a gender issue, this is a racial issue, this is an economic and educational issue. in the goal should be that people feel represented. they don't have to vote for everything you agree with. they don't have to put everything into legislation. but i'm hoping that over the next few years, if that voice can be heard, if people feel

like they matter than some of this decibel level will be decreased. i'm not confident, that is my hope. host: gym in illinois, line for democrats. morning. caller: frank, i appreciate this, but jack bauer from 24 can't save this country. we lost on democracy, congress behaves like a walking jerry springer show. in order to improve it, we have a debt ceiling that changes as many times at the department of defense has been married. host: we are running low on time to the segment. could you ask a question for frank and mark koller: let me just say this. president carter died. california is hurting the fires. we are going to raise the flag for math, you're going to end

this. it has never been seen like this before. my question is what is going to happen if a democratic governor called in the national guard to stop the deportation and you have the federal government bringing the military? guest: i don't know. i know that we have reached a point, a breaking point in this country and they think you are going to see that over the coming week. but if we can get affordability under control, if we can stop the chaos and the fentanyl, i hear stories of families all across the country burying the the get the fentanyl coming across the border, and i've been alive for 62 years. i remember the drug crisis in the 1980's just say no. and it is worse today. it affects everyone today. this government has to prove that it is efficient, effective

and accountable. and the things that they do have to be meaningful and measurable we have to be able to feel it and we have to be able to prove that it is actually happening. so you're to call his back democrat and republican, both of them not wanting to ask a question but want to make statement. as a pollster, i hear them. as a human being, as an american. as someone who wears west point shoes they get the chain teach west point cadets, i'm probably too down on america, but i could not be more supportive of those military academies and what they do for this country? host: last caller for now, new jersey, line for republicans. morning. caller: my question is regarding those groups so, of and whatever, and how successful you

might think they are going to be. and my other question is regarding president biden's recently. the extended nature them because i was quite shocked by some of them. host: before you answer that question, because ed mentioned spending and the doge potential commission, we also had a post on x from mlb who says it is ascending spending that is the problem, is where we spend their money that is theem. subsidies for big oil, the pharma and big agriculture are what enrage the working american public. please address facts. guest: whoever sent that is correct. it's not just spending for a bridge. it's not just about naming some school somewhere. for about a small spending, the big spending in the sense that we don't know where the money is if i work darn hard and my money gets taken to be used by the

additions, the public, they make fun of doge. the public wants it. the public wants elon musk and ramaswamy to get their hands inside the government can shine a bright light on where the money goes and most importantly, what it does. we measure inputs, we don't measure outputs. does it actually work? the caller is correct, that email is correct. why do we increase social security beyond inflation? how do we get medicare costs so that people get the choice and control they want, the affordability they need and the quality they deserve? by the way, it is a very simple process but actually getting there has become really difficult i do hope the president and congress work together. i do hope there are some

democrats to join with republicans. i do hope that this administration here is a voice for democrats. i'm not confident of it. host: quickly, the other question was about president biden spartans. guest: -- pardons. guest: you are aware that i am not going down certain roads. i'm not going to do it for biden, either. we are one day from this inauguration, from celebrating the peaceful transfer of power. you don't have that in other countries. i am so grateful to be here. i'm literally grateful to be here at this moment. and i say to the student to look at me and think i'm too negative, it is because they want something better. that is what makes america so great. you don't just want it, you can actually go out and try to achieve it. we have the freedom to do so and we have the freedom to criticize if we don't. i love it here.

i appreciate this show. i think you're awesome. i think you handled this so great. i don't have a patient that you have. host: thank you for being here. franklin today culture and communications strategist, fully appreciate and visiting us on washington journal again areas we are going to continue our conversation about donald trump inauguration coming up tomorrow with david coren, washington bureau chief for mother jones. he is going to be up next. we will be right back. ♪ ♪ >> a new chapter in u.s. history begins this monday with the presidential inauguration of novel trump. witness democracy in action with c-span and for the first time since ronald reagan's inauguration in 1995 -- 1985, this extraordinary day will be held in rotunda due to frigid

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