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democracy. >> this is also a massive victory for democracy and for freedom. welcome to today's "wasn journal." we start with charts from the cbs news poll and it says -- this is what they asked democrats, congressional democrats approach to trump should be to -- oppose trump as much as possible, in january, 40 6% and that went up to 65 percent. then the question of -- try to find common ground with trump, 54% responded with that in january, now only 35% say that democrats should try to find common ground with trump. this is another question aimed at democrats' confidence that congressional democrats can oppose trump effectively. those that said "a lot" state

about the same. "some" was at 44% in january and dropped to 36%, and those that said that their confidence level was "not much or none" was at 40% in january and 48% now. the question for republicans said, among republicans, should congressional republicans' approach to trump b -- support one agree, push back when disagree, 60% agreed. 40% said that congressional republicans should support whatever trump wants. i wonder what you think of that and where you would be if you are asked those polling questions, what do you think of that? here's is an article from abc news about elon musk. it said he was drilled about

doge transparency, and he was in the office with president trump. here's a portion of that. [video clip] >> is it normally this quiet? >> you are detractors. >> i don't believe it. >> say you are orchestrating a hostile takeover of government and doing it in a nontransparent way. what is your response to that? >> first of all, you could not ask for a stronger mandate from the public. the public voted -- a majority of the public voted for president trump won the house, the senate. the people voted for major government reform. there should be no doubt about that. that was on the campaign, the president spoke about that at every rally. people voted for major

government reform, and that is what they're going to get, with they voted for. and a lot of times, they don't get what they voted for, but in his presidency, they are getting what they voted for and that is what democracy is about. [end video clip] host: i will show you this article from the hill and then take your calls, gop senators terrified of crossing trump, facing musk funded challengers. the white house signaled that republicans who thwart trump's agenda by voting against his controversial nominees or opposing efforts by elon musk to freeze government funding and cut federal agencies such as u.s. eid will pay a political price, and they say that as a threat that carries a lot more weight when musk, the world's richest person, could port tens of millions of dollars into a senate republican primary. it says musk warned republican lawmakers in december that he was compiling a "naughty list" of members who buck trump's

agenda and pledged shortly after election day that his political action committee would "play significant role in the primaries" next year. we will go to the phones and start with mary, democrat, iowa. good morning. caller: good morning. the supreme court has the ability to reverse decisions. it is time for them to step forward. we have old people dying in the streets. host: what do you think about what congress can do? caller: the supreme court holds the key to the whole thing, as far as that community to do anything he wanted to do, it is time for them to reverse that decision and they need to do it now. host: did you mean by old people dying in the streets, what are you worried about? caller: with taking away medicare and social security, i mean, what are people going to do, diana streets?

don't have money for food or anything else. supreme court, do something. host: here is william, republican, florida. good morning. caller: good morning. i think mr. trump should be allowed to do whatever he would like to do but i have a question , who is the top law person in this country now? everything happened so fast i cannot keep up. who is the sheriff, the top law person, the doj? host: you're talking about the attorney general? pam bondi. caller: ok, i don't think she's worth spit if you don't bring charges against schumer for going after two supreme court justices. host: you would like her to bring charges against senator schumer for what exactly? caller: he threatened two

supreme court justices, how is he still walking around? host: richard, democrat, delaware. caller: hi, i'm a retired federal worker and i was a retired federal worker. i worked as a consultant, also. and i was also in a hospital bed for the last year -- i guess i cannot hear you. host: i was not talking, richard. go ahead and talking to the phone, don't look at the tv. caller: thanks. what i was trying to say is i'm surviving the medicare and social security, and i'm someone

who is worried about from the standpoint of environmental progress that has been made over the last 50 years that we will return to it, but we will lose some of that progress if the epa is not there and strong, and i would like to add that as far as civil service goes, i worked in the government for 11 years, and i'm proud to have done that work because the civil servants are the backbone of the government. they are the people who get hired to do the work to have the government do freda people. host: let me ask about waste fraud and abuse that elon musk

is saying that is what he's going after. do you think in the apa, since that is where you worked, there's wasteful spending, there are people abusing the funds that are supposed to be allocated for something else? caller: not on a grand scale like they are alleging and making the american public believe. i think you can always find the ways to improve the efficiency of organizations, including the private sector and public sector , but it is not a whole scale thrown out with the bathwater and the baby situation. host: republican, california, good morning. go ahead, dave. caller: i would like to say a commonsense approach, there's

nothing wrong with that. if they are trying to do that, why interfere? people would like to interfere just because they would like to interfere, and it seems like they're pushing socialism over democracy, and machen add to dirty opposite is what i'm seeing. host: the previous caller said they were throwing the baby out with the bathwater. do you think there may be a better way to go about finding efficiencies? caller: they are doing the best they can right now and they should appreciate that. the effort being made is 100% input, so why stop it? there's nothing wrong with that? but there's something wrong with socialism where anything goes.

that's how america works, anything goes. it doesn't make sense. host: all right, let's look at senate democratic leader chuck schumer yesterday talking about the threat of a possible government shutdown and several legal cases against the trump administration. [video clip] >> the trend is clear, donald trump cannot bulldoze his way through the rule of law. that is what the courts in america are saying. donald trump is not allowed to break the law, to achieve those goals. that is not how america works, and my republican colleagues should not sit idly by while he does it in five weeks, funding for the federal government will run out. let's remember that when there is talk about a republican shut down, president trump and republicans are already shutting down large chunks of the

government. democrats do not want to shut the government down, but the republicans are in charge, and they should fund the government. since the inauguration, president trump and republicans have been actively working to shut down the government entirely on their own. see research institutions, protections for americans, no one is working hard right now to shut down the government then donald trump and congressional republicans. [end video clip] host: that was senator schumer yesterday and we are taking your calls, what is the message to congress on the trump agenda for the next 15 minutes. we got somcoents from facebook. michael ss, yes, we democrats ne tlet the american people know that the legislative, executive and judicial branches exist to hold each other to account and ensure checks and nces.

suzette said trump is doing the pework and doing exactly what he was voted in to promises made, promises cut, the plan to attack the problem of the nation's bt in fact, they have no planet at all other than to add it. keeley says and here's dolores, democrat, tennessee. caller: morning, can you understand me? i had surgery and i'm speech impaired, so please give me a few minutes. host: go ahead. caller: what trump is doing to our country is like my brother in law said, how south africa did over there, the apartheid.

it is slowly happening here in our country. people left from over there and came here from freedom and you see this happening all over. trump and the republicans have bought and paid republicans. we can see it. he said he did not know about 2025, and he knew it all. guess what, the american people are the ones suffering. he would like to take away medicaid, women's rights, voting rights, they would like everything in america just like apartheid. another thing real quick, they are killing people every day. they're not saying anything about that, marsha blackburn and other republicans, please put that out there. wake up, america. he is not doing anything for the average person.

they put him in there, and there making foo out of them. ls host: steve, florida, independent. caller: good morning. how are you? host: good. caller: just like elon musk said yesterday, are we a bureaucracy or democracy? that's what i'm looking at. also, your quoting that survey on abc, i've been doing the survey over two years, and yesterday when i did that, it was the most biased survey i'd ever done. all the answers to the questions were pigeonholed -- host: explain that, steve. caller: each time, it was negative about president trump. like i said, i've done this two years, not one time have you ever done a survey with negative stuff about biden and everything else, and every answer, it was a

pigeonholed and i could not answer what i really wanted to answer. host: let's talk about this. i pulled it back up, this is the cbs news ugov poll. caller: that's the one i've been doing for two years, and on your news you said abc -- host: no, it is cbs. congressional democrats' approach to trump should be to -- caller: work against him, not work with him. host: so the question is, should congressional democrats opposed trump as much as possible or try to find common ground? that's not pigeonholed when you are asking only democrats. caller: it is pigeonholed. host: this is the one asking

republicans, approach to trump should be support when agree, push back when disagree, or support whatever he would like? caller: that is not how it was in the survey, ma'am. you are not listening, once again. i've done the survey. host: are you sure you are doing the right one because you said it was abc. caller: now you are insulting me. host: will you said it was abc and this is cbs. sorry to insult you. republican, connecticut. caller: how are you doing? host: i'm doing ok. caller: instead of basking hypothetical questions, why don't you post a list as to where that money was going? why don't you post that because most of these people who called you are cnn viewers and msnbc viewers who do not know anything , so why don't you post a list?

caller: how do you know all of our viewers are cnn and msnbc? you are not and you are a viewer. host: you are not and you are a viewer. caller: no because i know it is going on. host: well, we will find that for you, we will try to find a break down. caller: mimi -- host: yes, julian. caller: why don't you post a list of where the money is going -- host: i'm telling you, we will try to find information. you got anything else for me? caller: yeah., you . host: clay, democrat, georgia. caller: good morning. the democrats have to not let up. don't let up, stop -- start

talking about the price of eggs. that's all he talked about, grocers, so you cannot let up. that is how you win. let the american people know all the lies dismantled when he was running for president. real quickly, what's his name, elon musk? this man is from south africa. the united states destroyed his country. don't you know, he's trying to do the same for the united states? he was 18 years old when we destroyed apartheid, so he's trying to do the same thing for the united states, so, please,

wake-up. it does not make any sense and ty silva very much. host: julian wanted to see a breakdown of usaid spending. here's a news article that says what does usaid spend money on? here is a list of potential cuts. i will not read all of them but here are the top ones, 16.8 billion for governance, 10.5 billion for humanitarian assistance, 7 billion for health. if you would like a further breakdown of those, we will try to find more information, but i believe it is usaspending.gov. we will continue to look at that and provide information as we get it. john, independent, california. caller: i would like the republican senate to start doing their job.

they have laid down like leaves and they are letting trump jump all over them and they are totally afraid. it is the republican party who says if you don't do what king trump would like, we will use muska's money to get you out of office. that would never occur to democrats. republicans don't understand with three equal branches of government. the big deal going on in the gaza strip, not a single peep from the republicans. it is sickening. it is nothing but a stamp pad for donald trump. host: dennis, indiana. republican. caller: hello. congress needs to get on board,

the democrats need to get on board or resign or get out of the way. why is chuck schumer not imprison for the crime he committed of trying to -- chuck schumer is a felony and should be prosecuted. and how do we know that these democrats all listen to nbc -- msnbc and cnn? because they all dribbled the same talking points, the same exact talking points you here on cnn and msnbc. they need to wise up, stop listening to idiot democrats who are trying to control a mentor in this country into a socialist country. the reason democrats would like to spend all money is to get people dependent on the government because when they do, they can tell them what they have to do. host: this is jim, indiana, democrat. good morning. you have got to turn down your tv.

are you there? caller: yes, i'm here. host: go ahead. caller: i wanted to make the comment of i believe democrats should be working with republicans, and as a lifelong democrat that is starting to lean republic, i'm tired of the rhetoric from jeffries and schumer saying this is the republicans government and to finance the government shutting down as they sit back and do nothing, which i opened my eyes to see that they would just like to sit back and blame the republicans on everything, but they don't want to offer anything up. to hear schumer, who has been in his position for so long, no, make these kind of comments but he sits back and does not do anything except try to block what we need to do, we are the american taxpayers, and we need transparency to know where our money is going because we are

the ones who fund the government. the government takes a bar money for their own agendas, and we need to know where our money is going. the one last comment i would like to make about eggs, everyone so focused on eggs, but with the bird flu going around, these manufacturers have to kill the chickens and destroy the eggs, so it is basic supply and demand issue at this time which is primarily why the prices have gone up so much, but nobody would like to talk about the real impact for white fake prices are so high, they would just active laypeople but not look down to the root cause. that is all i have to say. host: you mentioned transparency. one of the criticisms that the doge activities are getting as they are not being transparent, saying we are finding fraud and abuse, but not showing evidence. what do you think of their

transparency, do you agree with the criticism or disagree? caller: i'm going to disagree with it. i guess i'm 50/50 because we are only a few weeks into the investigations and may be before they make their announcements about what they have found, they should maybe get a little more detailed intimate and as i listened to the clip this morning that you guys played, elon came out and told reporters that, yes, there will be mistakes made because they are moving quickly, and they have no issues coming back and retracting those statements or comments or issues made, so maybe i guess in that aspect, they should slow down a little bit and get the information out right the first time. in this world we live in, everybody would like the news

right now. unfortunately, they break off the forwards a person might say, a small comment, and that blows up into whatever it may be, but maybe they should slow down a little bit to get the information out there to the people. host: let's hear another portion of elon musk in the oval office yesterday, where he talks about potential conflicts of interest. here it is. [video clip] >> the white house as you identify and excuse yourself from any conflict of interest you may have, does that mean you are in effect policing yourself? what are the checks and balances in place to ensure accountability and transparency? >> we are trying to be as transparent as possible, we post our actions to the doge handle on and the website, so all of our actions are massively transparent. i don't know of a case where the

conversation has been more transparent than the doge conversation. the kind of things we are doing i think are very simple and basic. for example, when i mentioned the treasury, making sure that tax money that goes out is categorized currently and the payment is explained, and that organizations which are on the do not pay list, it takes a lot to get there, that they currently are paid, these are not individual judgment decisions, it is about having sensible checks and balances in the system itself to make sure taxpayer money is spent well, so it doesn't have a contract with the company of mine at all. >> if there is a conflict of interest, for example, you have received billions when it comes to the pentagon for contracts, which the president has directed you to look into, are you policing yourself? is there an accountability of checks and balances in place

that would provide transparency? >> all of our actions are fully public, so if you see anything, wait a second, that seems like maybe there is a conflict, it is not my people will be shy about saying that, they will say it immediately. but transparency is what builds trust, not simply somebody asserting trust or saying they are trustworthy. but transparency so you see what is going on. you can see, am i doing something that benefits one of my companies or not? it is obvious. pres. trump: if we thought that, we would not let him look in that segment, if we got there was a lack of transparency or collect of interest. we watch that, also. he's a big, successful businessmen and that is why we would like in doing this. we do not want an unsuccessful guy doing this. [end video clip] host: john, florida, independent. caller: good morning.

my message to congress would be to stay out of the way and let these guys audit the federal government. they found almost $4 billion, i'm happy with what is going on. this is what we voted for, we are sick of the games and democracy. some of these judges put holds on programs we looked into. their daughters and sons worked for the usaid. the corruption is deep in washington, d.c., and we need to look at it. i like the fact elon musk is in charge. he is probably one of the smartest in

caller: maybe wasting money or stealing money. if i went to my wife and my wife was at the kitchen table and say honey what are you doing, aim doing the bills. can i look at them, i think i have a way to save us money, and she screams in oi face you're a threat to democracy, yeah, i think we know what's going on. host: john, you're her husband. you have a right to see that. i think that the criticism is we don't know who -- the doge team have they been vetted, who are they? are they government employees? that kind of thing. what do you think of that? do you think there should be more transparency on who the people are on the doge team? and what their credentials might be. caller: if it makes you sleep bert at night. for me i'm not too bothered because i have trust in president trump and elon musk. i don't think you guys who aren't take ago salary are looking to rip anybody off. i think they are looking to try to balance this $36 trillion

deficit before my grandkids and my great grandkids don't have a country 20 even be involved n i just don't understand why people are up in arms about t what would you think those two guys would be doing? do you think they would be stealing -- what would they be stealing? they are literally trying to save money for us taxpayers. when you look at it and you see usaid and they are sending $20 billion to afghanistan for sesame street. and a million here for condoms and $50,000 for sex changes in cambodia. the one thing i wanted to say when you read what usaid the break up their bubtd -- budget, that doesn't detail all the waste and fraud where that money was going. i suggest and i recommend that anybody who really wants to know what's going on, follow a guy on twitter called mike benz. he has the break down of everything that's going on. where all our taxpayer dollars go. again, you can go right to doge.

they have the transparency right there. can you break it down and read it as well. host: all right, john. got it. real quick since john mentioned the orders and the courts. it says there is an article here in the "washington post," tracking trump's court wins and losses over executive orders and actions. this is "the washington post." so they are tracking all the different court cases and where they stand. and then they have a break down of the details on each one if you're interested in that you can look at that. that's at the "washington post." >> welcome back, we are joined by representative mike flood. he's a republican of nebraska and member of the financial services committee. congressman, welcome to the program. guest: thank you very much. good host: you serve on the financial services committee and it has oversight of the treasury department.

you recently met with treasury secretary bessent about elon musk's role in the federal payment system. can you tell us what you discussed with him? guest: basically two things. i asked the treasury secretary, what kind of access does elon musk have to the federal payment system? because it is a question i'm getting quite often from people that live in the first district of nebraska. he assured me that mr. musk has read-onl assets and only two employees at the treasury system, one of whom he personally interviewed, managed that system going forward. so i share that with my constituents in a letter which has since become public and i also said, as a member of the legislative branch, i very much respect article 1 authority and the power of the purse belongs in congress. at the end of the day we have to work with the executive branch to deliver tax cuts to the american penal and spending cuts to the american people.

i feel like we're on the right path to do that. host: can you tell us about the individuals mr. musk has employed to review that data? guest: i think he successfully decoded ancient scrolls. at the end of the day, as somebody who represents lincoln, nebraska, i'm extremely proud of him. i think elon musk has demonstrated through hires career that he can find -- through his career that he can find innovative ways to solve different problems and there's good in that. it's good to be looking at our spending and root out waste, fraud and abuse.

how are you going to rein in this crazy spending? now we see a president willing to slay this dragon.

are you comfortable with the access the people around musk has and the oversight of those individuals that they would not download personal information or make any adjustments? guest: we expect people's personal information to be safeguarded and protected. that is an absolute and i think on the same line you have to give the treasury secretary the ability to run the department of treasury. in this case we have elon musk, who technically works for the white house, working to look at the payments that have already occurred. how is that any different than a state that has a state auditor? in nebraska we have a state auditor who is aggressive and working 24 hours a day to root out fraud and abuse. it makes our system better. i think this is good for the american people. i think this review is positive, and quite frankly, as we are trying to extend the 2017 tax cuts we need to identify programs we can eliminate to find the pay force -- pay-fors to make tax cuts work.

host: i want to show you the republican senate leader, john thune yesterday was asked about legal actions against the trump administration and whether it should comply with future rulings. take a look. >> can i get your reaction to jd vance's comment that judges are not allowed to control the power of the executive? do you agree with that and you think the administration should comply with court rulings? >> what you are seeing right now is the give-and-take between branches of the government. we have three branches, as you all know, and the courts have a way of meeting or offering some of the disputes between article -- refereeing some the government. this is a process that will continue to play out. dubai -- do i believe the courts have a valid role and need to be listened to and heard in the process? the answer is yes. host: just to clarify the question of the reporter, it followed vice president jd

vance's comments on social media, saying, judges are not allowed to control the executive's legitimate power. your response? guest: there is a natural tension between the three branches of government, and i know this firsthand. i was the speaker of the nebraska legislature. article one gives clearly -- clearly gives congress the power of the purse. the executive branch has clearly enumerated authority that extends into running the government on a day-to-day basis. here is one of the things i think that is important to talk about. as president trump comes in to office his administration will not be more vulnerable in this first two months because he is getting his leadership in place. the green new deal, the inflation reduction act. there are folks trying to pull money out of the treasury for grant programs and running basically on a system to get that money out of here. i think president trump was right to pump the brakes.

the american people elected donald trump to impose his platform, which clearly is not in sync with some of the grant programs that the federal agencies were doing. you cannot let the courts micromanage the executive branch, but i agree with leader thune. the courts rulings are to be respected. we also have to remember you may have a district judge in washington, d.c. that rolls one way, he might have a district judge in colorado that rolls a different way. -- rules a different way. they ultimately land on the supreme court's desk and i'm confident the three branches of government will maintain their at tana me, the courts will interpret the constitution, and president trump is going to do what he needs to do as the chief executive to cut federal spending, to work with congress, to deliver reconciliation with us and provide an extension to his 2017 tax cuts. host: congressman mike flood, republican of nebraska, will be

with us until the end of the program. you can start calling now if you would like to talk with him. republicans are on (202) 748-8001. democrats are on (202) 748-8000. and independents, (202) 748-8002. since you mentioned the inflation reduction act i wanted to ask you about a bill you introduced called ending green giveaways act. this would roll back funding for targeting so-called environmental and climate justice challenges. can you tell us more about that ill? guest: the epa's inspector general said this was littered with poor language and it did not make any sense and we had people drawing down money for purposes that were not meeting the intent of congress. this is an opportunity for the congress, and this is part of our job with oversight, to put the brakes on some of the things happening under the biden administration.

this ending green giveaways act resonated with people across the united states. even folks that care about renewable energy were like, what is environmental justice? what are we trying to accomplish? at the end of the day what matters to americans is, we have energy independence? can we afford to heat our home or cool our home? do we experience brownouts? the idea of environmental justice is part of, in my opinion, the biden agenda that fits in with dei and everything else the american people have clearly rejected. host: let's talk to callers, congressman. this is kenneth in deplane, illinois. republican. caller: good morning, congressman. i hope you are well. i want to say, do not give these people -- [no audio] host: kenneth, you have to watch that language, please. he was saying, don't give them a break.

i'm assuming he means don't negotiate or cooperate with democrats. guest: obviously this reconciliation process will be a republican-driven legislation and it is going to entail the border wall, spending cuts, tax cut extension, and energy independence. let's not forget, we have the expiration of government funding on march 14. that will need to be bipartisan. i'm on the house financial services committee. we are looking at how to increase housing supply. at the end of the day reconciliation is going to go a different track, but everything else, given the fact we only have 53 republicans in the senate will require bipartisan solutions. moving forward i'm confident we can really put our fingerprint on this 119th congress with donald trump's big win and a majority in the house, there will be issues that require

senate democrats adam venit to accomplish the mission and run our government. host: where are you on the budget process? are you in favor of speaker johnson's plan to put everything in one bill, or do you lean more toward the senate ill and breaking it up into two pieces? guest: i very much agree with speaker johnson. this should be one bill. there is a lot of complicated legislation that will be in this. everybody needs to be in the same boat. it has been difficult in the past to unify our conference and the only way to get across the finish line is to put everything in one bill, let the senate have it, and then get this done by easter. that would be the best scenario. host: he was chuck in charleston, west virginia. hi, chuck. chuck, are you there? caller: yes, i am. host: go ahead. caller: i regret to say i think democracy is disappearing right

before our very eyes. we had chip roy and elon musk both saying that trump should just ignore the courts. our vice president, jd vance, he said judges are not even allowed to rule against the president. i'm quoting him directly. he said, when the courts stop you, stand before the country like andrew jackson did and say, the chief justice has made his ruling. now let him enforce it. now there doesn't seem to be any enforcement. there doesn't seem to be any accountability. and trump can just ignore the supreme court if he wants and not a single republican like yourself will object for fear of being primary. he said he would be a dictator on day one, and a one has stretched out into three weeks. so to you and all of the maga people out there listening, if you are content to have trump be our dictator, at least have the guts to say so.

host: congressman, what do you think? guest: i think that is not an accurate description of what is happening here. yes, the president has a federal district court judge that has stopped parts of his agenda and the president, i believe, said yesterday they will appeal and go through the process. this is the beginning of the trump administration, and i understand how difficult some of this change can be for members of the other party. and some of the hyperbole you are hearing our people winding themselves up about things that have gone much further than the truth. in this situation we have a president who has a mandate from the american people to cut spending. he has hired elon musk and the treasury secretary to look at the prior federal payments. that are exposing a spending regimen that is out of sync with what americans want, and quite frankly, for a country that has

36 36 trillion dollars in debt, we cannot afford it. people simply notes all the time, my social security. the me tell you something, if we don't get this under control we will have a crisis much bigger than social security. we will have a debt crisis. we are going to a very bad place if we do not get control of federal spending. so, i have complete confidence that the executive branch, the judicial branch, and the legislative branch will each exercise their constitutional authority. there will be friction. there will be conflict, and our system will work. i want to add one more thing. when president biden took office he had in his mind -- and i think clearly the support of a lot of people -- he wanted to forgive everyone's student loans. clearly unconstitutional. clearly. that went to the supreme court. the supreme court said, you don't have the power to do it. and what did he spend the rest

of his time in the white house doing? undercutting and doing everything in his power to forgive student loans. to the tune of about $5 billion per month we were racking up that debt, on top of a $36 trillion deficit. i remember being extremely frustrated that the president seemed to not pay attention nor respect the supreme court there. you will find that this president, donald trump, is going to put his best foot forward. he is going to push the limits and test the courts, and i'm confident the courts will apply the law and the constitution, and our three-tier system of government will prevail and we will be fine. i know that change is hard, but we will get through this and it will ultimately make us a stronger, more financially stable country. host: you mentioned increasing

housing supply. what is your plan for reducing the cost of housing for americans? guest: i'm the brand-new chairman for the subcommittee on housing and insurance and i'm working with chairman franchot. -- french hill. i think at the end of the day we have to encourage localities to include affordable workforce housing in all parts of the community and not that then get sidetracked onto a certain part of town where they don't have access to good schools or amenities. we have to look at these housing and urban development programs and make sure we are prioritizing housing supply. we have to look at this home insurance crisis we have right now. some people are paying more in their premium with their property tax than they are on their principal and interest. jd vance said recently at an event in florida that the number one issue he hears about from adults ages 20 to 30 is their inability to get into a home. -- [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2025] karoline: good afternoon, everybody.