from vancouver to palm springs or hawaii or to california. so there are deep ties. there has been long-term affection on the part of our people. but i don't think it is overstating this that use the family metaphor. and families have good times and bad times and sometimes you cross a line in a family that you wonder, will you ever be able to come back from that? i'm not saying that has happen. but i'm saying that some of the rhetoric, some the feelings, some of the anger makes me wonder if we are at that thanksgiving dinner for example, some things have been said and so actions have been taken. but many things have been said that are going to be very, very difficult to forget about and to walk past, you know, back from that line. >> a call-in program sponsored by the canadian broadcasting corporation taking a look at issues between the united states in canada. it will be simulcast by c-span starting at 4:00 if you're interested in hearing with the canadians have to say and possibly members of the united states as well. you can see that on our main

pack platform, c-span, are apt c-span now and after website at c-span.org. en hanomansing joining us from the canadian broadcasting corporation. thank you for your time. and before i let you go, how can people view in it. audience is interested in getting into this? guest: how can people -- host: if they have the ability to call in what is the number they can call in for that kind of information? country, so our number will be mentioned a lot on the air. after want to say it not because i will probably get a digit wrong and create chaos. so once they are watching on your channel, the number will be partner and i can't overstress, we really do want to hear from u.s. callers. >> thank you, sir. rpte your time. guest: thank you. host: and this is amanda litman during us. she is the cofounder and president of the organization run for something. she is author of the book, a leadership. amanda litman, thank you for giving s your time. how do you describe your group,

to people? guest: it recruits young young diverse leaders all across the country. it is pretty straightforward. we ask people to run to run and then when they see us or maybe we help them do it all the way through to election day. robert what made you come up with this organization as far as the need that you sought to recruit people into office? to work for secretary clinton's presidential campaign for two years right after election take i started hearing from people i started going to college with. and a public school teacher in chicago. and thinking about running for office. what do i do? and at the time, november 2016, if you were young, if you were news excited about politics anyway to do more than four and more than volunteer, there was nowhere you could go to answer your car, along with michael franti, marshmallows, we put a plan for we. a website and then we launched run for something on trump's first inauguration day thinking it would be really small because who wants to run for office.

instead we had a thousand people signed up in the first week and as of today, we are up to about 190,000 young people all across the country who have raised their hand to say they want to run. robin so when someone says they want to run, they get your interest, what happens then as far as fighting them to see whee they go further? guest: so it marcello but like a marketing funnel. if you sign up on our website where you can look at all of the offices available for you. you then start getting information and inference to calls like when we're doing this tuesday where we talk about all of the first time questions candidates have. how do i know what to run for? how do i raise money? how does any of this work? we also talked through raw run for something's offering. >> will start getting e-mails and text messages from her team giving you resources, trainings, events that us and our partners are doing. this is all available to everyone of any age. then we have an application once you have found on the belt where you can apply for a month for something's endorsement. that is when we really whittle

it down. we want to see your campaign plan, your budget, that is where we drawers and endorsements are limited to folks 40 and then or to make sure we are -- into the process. i was going to say once we endorse we have a budget more support on you depending on your campaign. host: because you focus on anger people, what drives them in your mind to get into politics? guest: oh, it is a whole range of issues. it is one of the things i love the most a partner carriages. it is the only thing they really have in common is a willingness to serve their communities and to do something when they are in office. air running for representation for housing, for their families, for childcare. they are run because the republicans in company in office not been challenged in decades. they are all so committed to solve problems in a way that i things makes their campaign really strong. host: what does that mean in your mind and how does that say different than typical democrat running for office?

guest: we have a very expansive definition here because we work with candidates in all 50 states run for a range of offices. a candidate running for a city council here in new york where i live needs to talk about the issue and show up for those issues and may be in a different way than a city council candidate in our. are have been said, all of our candidates are pro-equity, your tolerance, pro affordable housing and education, probe healthcare for everyone, pro-climate change is real and we have to do something about it. they are all ready to tackle the issues of gun violence. their choice. air. democracy and profess. but we really ask folks, what does that look like in your campaign? >> our guest is with you. if you want to ask questions of recruiting young progressives for professional office. independence, 2,027,488,002 that you can also text's questions at 2,027,488,003. there was an article in the new

york magazine last year featuring you the heads and since you have helped more than a thousand young people get elected but i'm sure the number has changed. elaborate on that and who are your standouts? to. guest: we have helped just under 1500 people win elections in the last eight years. nearly every state except for idaho, and you might know some of our alumni. to include now congressman jasmine crockett from texas, sarah mcbride from delaware. annalee ventling from washington. they are now all members of congress. on the state level we have got senator mary matt murrell from michigan, florida representative, down in texas, the harris county executive, lina hidalgo. i could go on and on and on. these are all amazing young leaders who really know how to should show up for the outcome -- their communities. host: when it comes to yes men

crockett, you have probably seen the news, back and forth with north queensland republic in nancy mace. what do you think about those exchanges or at least the statements she is making when it comes to politics in congress. guest: i think she is emblematic of a whole generation of leaders who know the republican party is not on the level and they are not ready to be good-faith partners in governance and this idea of the corn is behind us when it comes to them. so she is ready to call them out like she sees it and do so in a way that draws attention which i think is good, especially in this environment. toronto largest generation of those along to generation x, 180 members. what you think about that number compared to what you have seen in years before when it comes to congress. guest: this is i believe the third oldest congress ever and it keeps getting older and i think we're seeing that in some of the images that we are getting out of the fight back against time right now.

you are seeing leaders who don't understand how to wield attention in this economy. they don't really understand where their voters are because they are not hearing from their quarters as much. we have seen, i think it is really helpful to note that some of the leaders of the pushback have been some of these younger politicians, even slightly younger. the average age in congress and i believe in the house is i.t., 68 or something like that and in -- 63 in the house, 63 in the senate, a belief. young people are just left out of these bases and i'm glad that gen x is making representative and i think we're going to see more millennials and gen z and gen z in the east, to come. host: do those younger members of congress talk to you and your organization about how they are perceived by older members of congress? guest: i have heard that over the years and they will talk about how sometimes their college just don't understand how they communicate. they talk about things like they don't understand why they use instagram in this way or their tone, they are really entering an institution that was not built for people like them.

i think that often creates a sense of disconnect. i love that they are brave enough to do it in my. host: this is michael. michael is on an independent line from florida. michael, go ahead. you are on with eric as. caller: yes, good morning. my understanding of progressives is they believe in quality of outcomes and do not believe in equality of opportunity. what is your position on that? guest: an interesting question. i don't know if i agree with that assessment. the candidates that run for something has worked with, a need to identify as progressive. really see both sides of the equation. they want to make sure that their constituents and their community members have both the equality of opportunity and equality of outcome, and they look at that through things like housing and education, public transportation, clean water, clean roads, there is a little bit both. host: laura is next. laura from texas. you're on with our gas.

go ahead. caller: yes, thank you for taking my call. i have -- i'm a baby boomer, but i'm on the tail end of it. and i am a bit concerned with the younger generation believing that the older generations don't know what they are doing. and in some respects i kind of agree with that. but i would hope that the younger generations understand that this is a collective effort. we cannot stand against tyranny and dictatorship and even acts of treason committed by the president and as we stand together and this nonsense about generational divide is put aside. so i'm interested in your thoughts on that. guest: you know, i think we can agree we need all the generations to come together. the reason that run for something works exclusively with younger leaders is because historically, younger people have been left out of this

conversation. puritan 5% of state legislators were under the age of 35. the median mayor of a big city was 15 in. median school board member, 59, 60. even in congress, they are just not reflective of where the american people are. so i agree with you. we need generations to come together. put young people have been entirely left out of that leadership conversation for so long and we are just on the tipping point of trying to chan. so i think baby boomers, which you are right, some do understand. >> somebody asked this is mike from wisconsin about your organizaon's funding and how that works? es a mix of people giving five dollars, $500, a whole range of folks. we have 40,000 individual givers at this point. a couple different entities folks can give to, i am so grateful for every person who contributes because when we

started this, so much of the advice we got was a great idea, no one is going to want to run or give to that. i am so glad that eight years and we have proved that wrong but we need to keep it going. host: do you get money from political parties? guest: no i do not think we have ever gotten money from one of the formal democratic institutions. we work with them as appropriate, but we have not gotten money from them. host: if you are on saying considering campaigning has changed a lot can you explain how run for something turns a newbie into a viable candidate and what's the most critical skill they must have first grade guest: we help people figure out what is the reason for running and how was the office they are running for a opportunity to solve this and why should voters want them to win which is different from why you want to win. voters want to win because you will do something specific and tangible and practical for them.

once we help candidates figure out how to tell that story, the rest of the campaign is just logistics. it is hard logistics but it is not complicated logistics. we help candidates figure out how to file, get on the ballot and make sure they are running really strong voter contact campaigns. it might look like knocking on doors, phones, print ads or radio, a text messaging. we deftly want to think about social media in a way that's genuine. we know how you race in new york city is different from iowa. neither of them are right or wrong, we want to make sure we run the right race for the right place. host: can you describe a winning story as far as one of the candidates and what worked and what got them in congress? host: i actually want to talk about -- guest: i actually want to talk about someone who's not in congress.

we recruited summoning justin douglass around harrisburg. he was a former pastor who had been fired from his church for being too welcoming to lgbtq congregants. we recruited him to run specifically for the county commission position which is a position that oversees the county budget, election administration, deals with the county jail system and a bunch of other stuff. we got him to run against a republican incumbent and justin ran this incredible campaign, he spent maybe $12,000 on the race and he was out there knocking doors, he left this incredible campaign that was like the mayor in jaws to, the mayor in jaws one was still the mayor in jaws two. vote in your local elections. he was ultimately able to be a republican incumbent by 140 some odd votes on election day ultimately fifth -- flipping control of the first time in over 100 years. he immediately went forward to

do stuff like make it easier for people to vote in dauphin county pennsylvania and performed the way they were caring for inmates in the jail system. it's a really incredible example of the thousands of candidates we work with over the years who show up and who win in really longshot races. host: let's hear from gary in pennsylvania, philadelphia this is on the democrats line. >> i just want to salute her for what she's doing and mentioned something the couple met at her work. and we are developing something called adopt an organizer because there's a must one million people working at coffee shops and other jobs and even 1% of those people and it seems there's quite a bit more but even 1% of those people want to become organizers and they don't have rich parents the only option is gofundme. so we are developing adopt an

organizer would make it easier for people to quit those jobs and for people to become organized. if you're going to run for something you need a lot of organizers to overturn this fascist coup need a lot of organizing so we hope we can work together and i hope to see what contact because we are going to make it much easier, we will have people for example donate free housing which is already worth 700 or $800. well-off people that can match. >> i love that and thank you for what you're doing we need every possible outcome -- avenue of support for candidates and volunteers. these institutions are meant for people board independently wealthy. >> another viewer asking this question. she sayor this is the viewer saying i don't think you are geing younger candidates into

this. getting younger voters to vote is the biggest challenge you in your candidates face. >> i think it's a little bit of our solution is part of fixing that problem. young voters are looking for candidates who can connect to them and who can show up in the places they are. on tiktok and instagramming snapchat and discord and can be in the media spaces where they're paying attention. i think a lot about how money members of congress couldn't go on a nonpolitical space and talk like a real person. the run for something candidates absolutely can because they are ordinary people who do this extraordinary thing of running for office. one of the ways we get more young voters to show up and vote for democrats is to give them better democrats to connect to. >> when it comes to information about a candidate is it social media that will be the primary driver and if that's the case how do you get so much information about a candidate on the platform of your choice? >> it's a little bit of social media and >>