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>> by its adoption, the house has resolved representative al green center it that representative al green present himself in the will of the house of representatives for the announcement of the century and that representative al green pizza insured with public reading of this resolution by the speaker. [gavel bangs] >> the house will . the house will come to order. ♪ >> the house will come to order. clear the well, please. the house has to continue its business. host: the speaker trying to get

order in the house as some democrats gathered around representative al green as he was in the well to receive that public rebuke, started singing "we shall overcome." this morning, we are getting your reaction to the house vote to censure the congressman for dividing the lines -- censure the congressman. we are dividing the lines by democrats and republicans. 10 democrats voted with all the republicans the censure the congressman. he are the names of those lawmakers and their faces. congressman dara of california. representative ed case of hawaii. jim costa of california. laura gillen of new york. marie gluesenkamp perez of waington state. jim himes, who serves in connecticut. from pennsylvania, chrissy houlahan. marcy kaptur of ohio. the longest-serving member of congress in the house. jared moscowitz florida and tom suozzi of new york.

those with a 10 democrats who joined all the republicans to vote for censure. we will tell you their explanation from those 10 democrats as why they agreed to, with republicans, that the congressman deserved a public rebuke for his actions at the joint address. he stood up and shouted that "you don't have a mandate." he showcased kane at the president. he was escorted out of the chamber at the top of that joint redress. danny and republic -- danny, republican, we start with you. what do you make of this action by the house of representatives? caller: good morning. you know something? it is long overdue. this guy is nothing but a troublemaker. he should be censured. what the democrats did tuesday night is disgraceful. they couldn't stand for a child with brain cancer and the rest of the poor people that have died, raped, or whatever, due

to the hands of illegal aliens. the democrats just sat on their hands. host: betty is a democrat. good morning to you. caller: good morning. i do not think he should have been censured, because the republicans have way more worse things than he did. the goose cannot talk about the gander. if they want to get things straight, be straight. host: give me some examples of what republicans have done that is far worse, you think. caller: that green lady, she says what she wanted to say. the president, he get on there and call people names. i think that is as bad as him -- he is a man like everyone else. he is not god. host: let me ask you this. what is the best form of protest for the democratic party during

this second trump administration? what do you think is appropriate and effective? caller: ok. you can't be mean with mean. you understand what i am saying? because god loves us all. what i am saying, everybody want to get down on the democrats, but they don't say nothing about the republicans. when he was applauding all the people got up there -- what do they do about that? host: all right. betty in atlanta disagreeing with a censure of representative al green. she points to marjorie taylor greene's behavior a year ago, when then president biden gave his last state of the union address to a joint congress, referencing marjorie taylor greene shouting at the president during his speech about lake and riley and other issues. representative al green spoke on

the house for about the public rebuke. [video clip] >> i respect the speaker. i have no ill feelings towards the speaker. north towards the persons who escorted me away from the floor, because i did disrupt. and i did so because the president indicated that he had a mandate. and i wanted him to know that he did not have a mandate to cut medicaid. i did this because medicaid is the only insurance many people have in this country. i am blessed, as i stand here now, there is a physician waiting. if something should happen, i will be taken to that physician. i have the best health care in the world. there are other people who have less than i. i would have them have what i have. by surely will not stand by and

see them lose what little they do have. medicaid is for people who don't have a kind of health care that 400 35 members of congress and 100 members of the senate have. but they do have some health care. it has been approved by legislation, that the energy and commerce committee would cut $880 billion from their budget. the overwhelming majority of that budget has to do with health care. i see no way for this cut to take place without cutting into medicaid. i am going to fight the cutting of medicaid. i hope that this comment, this message that i am giving today, will deter them and cause them to go a different way. then they can say, we were never

going to do it, al green just had this false notion. well, let me have it. don't cut medicaid. host: representative al green on the floor, democrat there, after he was censured by the house. all the republicans and 10 democrats joined as a what he did at the joint address was wrong and that he deserved that censure. speaker mike johnson put this out on x. representative al green's shameful and egregious behavior during president trump's joint address disgraced the institution of congress and the constituents he serves. despite my repeated awnings, he refused thesis antics, and i was forced to remove him from the chamber. he deliberately violated house rules, and and expeditious vote of censure is an appropriate remedy. any democrat who was concerned about regaining the trust and respect of the american people should join house republicans in this effort.

we are getting your reaction this morning to what the house did yesterday to the congressman in response to his behavior during the joint address. you heard the congressman from texas talking about why he did it, because he believes that the republicans and the department of government efficiency has their sites -- sights set on medicaid cuts. here is the economy and business section of the washington post. the gop budget goals would require medicaid cuts. this according to the congressional budget office, a nonpartisan group that advises congress on their policy. republicans in congress cannot reach their goal of cutting at least one point $5 trillion in spending over the next 10 years for president donald trump's big beautiful bill on taxes and immigration, unless they cut medicaid or medicare benefits. trump and the gop are seeking to extend provisions of the president's 2017 tax cut law,

which would cost nearly $5 trillion, while also pushing hundreds of billions of dollars to new spending on border security, mass deportation campaigns, and national defense investments. to do all that without sending the national debt soaring, republicans are looking for spending cuts to pay for the new spending and lower tax rates. but try has said the gop should not cut benefits for social security, medicare, and medicaid. those are the three largest social safety net programs, which, together, account for roughly $3.2 trillion of the country's total $6.75 trillion spending in the 2024 fiscal year. more than 60 million americans rely on each program for medical coverage, retirement security, survivor benefits, and unemployment caused by disability. but the cbo is saying you cannot reach the spending cuts you want to achieve without getting to

medicare and medicaid. joe in dayton, ohio, republican. we are talking about representative al green and his protest at the joint address. what do you think? caller: good morning from a beautiful, sunny day in ohio. al green is it arranged lunatic. he was on your show about two weeks ago, holding up a sign that said "impeach trump." impeach trump for what? the man has been in office for six weeks. tell me what you're going to impeach him on. also, al green tried not testify trump's election in 2016, along with other democrat individuals, adam schiff, hank johnson, nancy pelosi, all these people did. greta, it's sad, but the democrats really exposed themselves this week. shameful, how a man standing not

more than about 15 feet away from the president has shaken a cane in his face, not allowing him to speak, not allowing him his first amendment rights, and it is shameful. and also, what really showed me yesterday, was 10 democrats voted against this guy. they might have their own regions -- reasons and some going like this. and i was floored by harold ford coming out right after trump's speech saying that the democrat party has lost, they have nothing for the american people. go ahead, i apologize. host: no, you're all good. i wanted you to finish your thoughts. so a couple things. representative al green, he was on the program. he talked about moving to articles of impeachment. he said it would be a grassroots effort. he did talk about that. for our viewers, if you missed

that, you can find it on our website. we will try to show you that moment as well when he was on the "washington journal." respond to our previous caller, who pointed to marjorie taylor greene's behavior during president biden's last state of the unit address. she stood up and shouted at the president when he was trying to finish his address. caller: correct, but what marjorie taylor greene said was trying to say "say her name" of a young, beautiful lady down in georgia who was bludgeoned and raped by an illegal alien that joe biden let into this country -- host: so, joe -- caller: i don't remember marjorie taylor greene standing with a weapon, a cane, shaking it at joe biden. but if you're saying that, i guess sheesh -- they should have censured marjorie taylor greene. but another thing i want to tell you real quick -- i know you have other calls.

there are only two things that the democrats have. they talk about medicaid and medicare and social security. they have been talking about that since ronald reagan. you're too young to even know ronald reagan. anyway, they have been talking about that since reagan. the other thing they have is january 6. that's all they have. host: let me ask you one last question. what viewers may be hearing from you is it is ok to disrupt a joint address by a president, as long as, what you are saying, you agree with. so you agree with marjorie taylor greene, what she was saying when she was disrupting the president. so as long as that happens, you're ok with it, but when al green stands up and says you do not have a mandate, responding to president trump saying he does, then you are not ok with it? caller: what i am ok with is -- what i am ok with, just to get the facts straight, is that donald trump was not -- donald

trump did not even say two sentences, and al green was standing there in the front row -- not the front row, but right behind the justices, shaking his cane at donald trump, not allowing him to speak. and he was told to sit down numerous times, and he refused to do so. with marjorie taylor greene, she said "say her name, say her name," and finally, joe biden was bullied enough that he had to say laken riley's name, and she did not -- he did not even say her name right. and of course, you will have democrats saying it is one-sided or whatever. host: all right, while you were talking, we were showing the moment from tuesday night's joint address, and the reaction from the room. you can see from a wide camera angle where congressman al green was sitting and the reaction from those in the room,

including the speaker and the president. we will go to david, next, independent. caller: good morning, how are you today? host: morning. what is your view on this? join the conversation here. caller: i've been hearing the conversation. very interesting. i believe we have rules and protocols. i do not care whether it is a democrat or republican. i totally agree with this man doing this. but anybody, whether democrat or republican, should be taken out jade we know the rules -- should be taken out. we know the rules. why don't we follow them? in this case, i think the democrats are really in a bad place. there are 10 democrats who also voted to censure this guy. itothered me in the fact that i remember when nancy pelosi

stood up a speech in front of president trump, nothing was ever done. my feeling is -- i am an independent. if you are on either side and you disrupt that thing, you should be taken out. i am glad they censured this man. host: do you think that line of argument applies to the democrats who wore pink in protest or the signs, paddles, they put up with words like "musk steals" and "false," etc. some democrats wore t-shirts that said "resist" on the back or "king doesn't live here" and they walked out during the speech. is that all, in your view, not appropriate? caller: in my view, it is also not appropriate. there is certain protocol. that's just it. they looked like they were at an auction, holding a paddle. they made themselves look fuller show -- foolish.

for me, there's a way to do things and a way not to do things. when they start doing like that, they are grasping at things. the worst thing, for me, was none of them standing up for that child who had cancer, the man who came back from russia. that's really bad. once you start doing that, then you'r just not good with me. and i am also a gay independent, which people look at me saying, how can you be gay and not be a democrat? it has nothing to do with anything. i said, it's just behavior that we are taught as children and should be continued on. and these people are acting like children. the next day, when they did censure him and they all started standing around, come on, there you go again. you're doing the same thing you do not want other people to do -- host: when they stood around

represented al green in the well and started singing "we shall overcome," to shout out the speaker, do you also think that was not -- caller: correct. it is like a baby. you got to teach them to stop doing this. they will continue, because they see their future, which is not good. and when you have 10 democrats actually say things, that they should have never happened, that is telling you something. even federman, his remarks the other day about not acting that this was terrible. you got to look at your party, people, and say we are approaching this the wrong way -- host: all right, i will pick up on that, because a columnist at the washington post writes a piece about what is the right way for democrats, and are they organized to respond to president trump during his second term? she argues that they don't seem

to be, that they don't have a strategy here. the pink protest club, noting a picture of the women's democratic caucus, who all wore pink in protest of president trump at the joint address. she ends her column today in the washington post saying this. because trump was up there bloviating, and fixed -- because democrats seem to have so little recourse, because it was not clear whether the issue was that democrats were trying the wrong thing or, scarier, that there was actually nothing left to try. that democrats have tried all sorts of things. she questions, what is the best way to be an effective voice of protest in this era? she says, in most recent years, liberals have tried minnesota nice, coconut trees, going high, going low, going "weird," being heartfelt, being snarky,

marching, pleading, mocking, understanding, using facts, using pathos, and here we are again. so, for democrats, what is the best way to protest against the trump administration? harvey in wisconsin, democratic caller. let's hear from you. disagree or agree with the censure by the house on al green? caller: good morning. host: morning. caller: i agree with the censure, because rules are rules. he steps outside the rules. i do not condone what he did, but i understand why he did what he did. i think he did what he did to draw attention to the fact that there are some things people are not really aware of, and he wanted them to focus on. for them to reach this amount of cutting they are talking, there is no way they can do that without cutting into medicaid, medicare. and also, i think there was another time for the president -- if he really wanted to honor

those people, the young kid and the lady, he could have done that -- he could have another press conference for that. this was the time to focus on issues directly affecting each and every individual, from the highest to the lowest, in our society. and he was using filler, feeling good about things -- yes, that was great. i felt good about all of it. and i am a democrat. but that was not the time. this was the time to address things are affecting us. ukraine, the cost of eggs. everything that goes on in our day-to-day lives, in our homes. he covered all that up with honoring things, which was important, but this was not the time for him to do that. and i agree with the censure. host: all right, harvey in democrat -- in wisconsin, democrat. you sound like the democrats who voted with the century.

here is representative perez, who represents a swing district in washington and. today, i voted to censure a fellow member of congress. when you knowingly break house rules, as representative green did, it should not be surprising to face consequences. congress should respect the coequal office of the presidency, regardless of who holds the job, and do our constitution. congressman laura gillen -- the american people expect their representatives to hold themselves to a certain level of decorum on the house floor. if i click the other side of the aisle to do that, i have to hold my democratic. colleagues to the same standard. that is what she had to say. chrissy houlahan -- i did indeed have a heated conversation with speaker johnson on the house floor after i voted yes to. . censor my colleague i called speaker johnson out on his and his party's hypocrisy and remind him of the many instances in which republicans have latently broken the rules of the house. three of the 10 democrats who

voted in favor of censuring representative al green, 77-year-old congressman from texas, who has indeed moved to impeach president trump early on in this second term of the president. anthony in detroit, michigan, independent, bringing your thoughts this morning on this vote to censure. go ahead. caller: oh, yeah, well, i did not mind al green interrupting trump. that is how al green felt, and i am all for it, if he feels that strongly about it. i do not really support trump over the democrats. both groups look like clowns, to me, that night. but the censure is kind of president trump: the world cup of 2026, which will