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want you to watch "countdown" next and we'll see you monday. >> which of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow, beaten at his own game. >> have you checked your own investments? you also have investments from mutual funds that also invest in fannie may and tread mack. >> newt blames the crowd again. now the hispanic vote could shape the 2012 election. >> i don't think the party can conspire to be the party if it's the white guy party. >> i don't want to be in a country where we only are looking at success for a small group of people. we want a country where everybody has a chance. >> whether the president's new rhetoric is for real.
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from iraq to wall street, one vet's journey. why he joint occupy, that you will and more, now on "countdown." >> the 99 and the one. >> good evening, this is friday, january 27 just 285 days now until the 2012 presidential election. i'm bill press sitting in for keith olbermann. newt gingrich is shocked shocked i tell you that mitt romney might have stretched the truth a little bit in last night's gop debate. new pollings showed what worked for mitt in florida may not be helping him elsewhere. the fifth story if mitt romney were a mat door, the crowd would have awarded him newt's ears and tails astro fees. >> i thought it was a delightful debate. i loved it.
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>> also last night's debate was the last before tuesday's gop primary, thank god. perhaps newt said last chance to score off mitt and reverse his own slide in those statewide polls in florida. newt tried hitting mitt on his investments and got slammed back. >> we discovered to our shock governor romney owns shares in fannie may and freddie mac. >> they are bonds that the investor has held through mutual funds and mr. speaker i know that sounds like an enormous revelation, but have you checked your own investments? you also have investments with mutual funds that also invest in fannie may and freddie mac. >> right nice come back, newt, loser. >> that subject doesn't interest
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me a whole lot. >> can we set aside that newt was a member of congress and used the skills that he developed as a member of congress to go out and advice companies and that's not the worst thing in the world and mitt romney is a wealthy guy because he worked hard. >> no more than we can set aside romney's massachusetts health plan. >> in massachusetts, everybody is mandated as a condition of breathing in massachusetts to be buy health insurance. >> first it's not worth getting angry about. i know you don't like the plan we had. i don't like the obama plan, it cuts medicare. we didn't anything like that. >> maybe because medicare is a federal program not a state program. romney shaded the truth. he accuses gingrich of calling spanish the language of the
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ghetto. romney denied knowing anything about the ad but went back on the track after wolfe blitzer informed romney that he had personally endorse the ad. >> did you say what the ad says or not. >> i don't know, it's taken out of context, i did not know. >> gingrich today claimed that he was appalled by romney's eplies last night telling the washington post: >> news campaign also followed up today with this ad: >> romney denied seeing a false ad his campaign used to attack newt gingrich, but romney's own campaign paid for the ad and romney's own voice is on the ad approving its false content. if we can't trust what mitt romney says about his own record, how can you trust him on anything. >> romney's leading gingrich by
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nine points in florida with ron paul and rick santorum far behind. nationwide, gingrich is leading romney with the other candidates not much of a factor. what does the other party think about all these gop debates? joe biden seems to love what he's seen so far. >> the only thing we've got to make clear to the american people, what's the meat and what's the poison and they're helping us a great deal. >> the struggle for the ballot supremacy between mitt romney and good beginning, david is with us this evening. >> good evening. >> so, newt last night needed a good night after not doing so well in the debate last monday. this was his chance to get his momentum back, and he didn't do it. he had kind of a flat night. what happened, do you think? >> i think you have enough of
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these debates. we're on number 19. newt is bound to lose one and that's what he did last night sort of like the baseball playoffs. even the yankees are going to lose one or two games but this was clearly a critical moment for his campaign, this was the last debate before florida. romney was showing momentum coming out of the debate earlier this week. his whole campaign has been based on these debates to stay in the conversation. i just was very surprised. it didn't seem like he had the fight in him. it didn't seem like he knew how to respond to a lot of mitt romney's charges. even when he seemed to have an upper hand in the attacks like that ad where romney was the clearly called out on, newt didn't capitalize on it. >> i don't like engaging in psycho babble, but is it
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possible that newt realizes, he doesn't just have the feeling he knows that he's not going to make it now that the south carolina bounce is not going to carry him all the way and maybe that was right field in his performance. you think? >> you know, i don't know. newt gingrich is a very confident guy. i don't think anybody takes that away from him. but i do think there is a sense that he is such a tactician in his head, almost a strategist, he talks about process more than policy. romney is getting sharper and seems to always come back to a message. he's been doing it less so, but he always comes back and brings the campaign back to obama. newt never did that last night. that's why you're seeing cants in the republican party saying he can't be a nominee he is floundering, erratic not consistent. maybe newt has a great debate
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against president obama one week but at the next big debate doesn't show up ready for prime time. his spokesman was asked what happened, and he said i don't know. doesn't even try to spin it. >> mitt romney was much more aggressive last night showed they've done a lot of opposition research. he went on the attack, kept pressing newt gingrich and he has got to new debate coach the guy who used to work with michele bachmann. is that the secret for the new mitt? >> i don't know. this guy has got to be getting tons of high fives in the romney campaign office after this debate performance but i think it's more about romney knowing he is on the road after losing south carolina. mitt romney went from being 3-0 to 1-2 in these first two primary stage. i think they sat him down in a room, his team, and said look, this is real, newt's good as debating, you have to come out
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gloves off. here's all the arsenal to hit on. i think mitt was fighting for his life there and frankly did very, very well, showed a lot of republicans who are wary about him after south carolina that hey, mitt romney can throw a punch after all. he can get aggressive. i think that helped him greatly and you're seeing it in the polls. >> newt was complains this morning that mitt romney stacked the room last night filled the room with his supporters. shocking. did romney do that, and so what, right? >> exactly. no crying in baseball. he wanted the audience back. he complained earlier this week when nbc did not have an audience. cnn opened with an audience, now the audience was all for romney. this is process. people don't want to hear it. he needs to figure out how to drive a message over this weekend to get back in the game otherwise it's off to the races
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for mitt romney. >> it reminds you that little newt cry baby on the cover of the new york daily news a few years ago. david, always good to have you on the program. thank you. for more now on the state of the gop field heading into next tuesday's florida primary i'm joined by tim dickinson contributing editor with rolling stone. >> good to see you. >> let's remember, there are a couple of other people on the stage last night right? rick santorum and ron paul. let's start with santorum. so he he goes home today to do his taxes. tim, i don't know about pennsylvania, but in the rest of the country taxes are due in april, not in january. what's really going on? >> i'm sure he's trying to reevaluate, but no one's been able to deliver a knockout punch to santorum. his arguing was as good as
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anyone. maybe there's a santorum surge to be seen. his whole philosophy i also to be the last no one mitt standing. i think we'll see him get out either when the poll numbers force him out or he sees a strategic opening for whatever he's running for. >> he's a puzzle to me. clearly he's the most you a they didn'tically conservative candidate in the race, endorsed by the evangelicals and does well in the debates yet hasn't seemed to really catch fire. he won iowa, but what's the problem. >> you would have thought that evangelical endorsement would have been a boost. i think his profile isn't high
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enough his statements against women. >> and gays. >> even gop women i think he makes them cringe. i don't think he has that it factor the presidential factor that people are looking for in a candidate. >> ron paul, he sort of lives in a universe of his own. he got some great laugh lines off last night and while santorum might drop out would you agree ron paul just goes all the way to have whatever impact he can on the convention. >> i think that's right. he has his own little universe of voters. the polls show that he can be quite a dangerous third party candidate, too. he has his sort of own ron paul party and they are very loyal to him. >> do you think his ron paul party could become a third party? >> he didn't rule it out. he said he didn't in tend to do it but he certainly didn't dispel that notion entirely.
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>> i want to come back to what vice president biden said. it is fun for democrats to watch republicans kind of act like democrats, right forms a circular firing squad but are they weakening each other as democrats seem to think or are they perhaps becoming stronger through this primary process and emerge as a stronger nominee? you look at the negatives and they are riding sky high. romney is negative, gingrich is negative. when you have people like rick perry calling mitt romney a vulture capitalist, that's some gold you can use that david axelrod can make use of in the general election. obama himself has boasted about running some of these gop debates without editing. i think these series of debates have given democrats an awful
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lot of ammunition. if you look at the new mitt, gingrich super pack attack documentary about mitt romney's medicare record, that's the kind of thing that could be aired almost unedited in october. >> you think phrases like culture capitalist and vulture predator we might hear again? >> there's no way to knock lately yourself against a swiss bank account. that's never going to get old for people. >> indeed. in the latest poll out today newt gingrich is down eight points in florida right? but he's up eight points in the gallup poll nationwide. why the discrepancy? >> the nationwide polls are sort of a lagging indicator. people in minnesota aren't getting subjected to the attack ads that mitt romney has been airing for the last three weeks in florida.
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it underscores just how buildings therelittlethere i also behind that oomph level. >> thanks, tim very much. >> the latino vote, key to winning the sunshine state primary? we'll look at the votingggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
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>> 1.5 million latinos are registered to vote in florida. how it will impact the 2012 race for the white house. the populace president on display in michigan. is it all just snuck. >> the dust upin the desert. january brewer wags her finger at president obama but will he be the big winner in the long run? my special commentary. >> their tents may be gone but the occupy message is still being heard loud and it began on the internet ... progressive politics with an edge. these are the young turks:
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unique voices ... a common goal. they took their message to the streets and started a movement. now, there's no turning back. the number-one news show on the internet meets the only independent tv news network. the young turks on current tv. >> think about this, more than half the electoral votes a candidate needs can be found in california, new york, texas and florida and they also happen to be the states with the country's largest hispanic population. we see why this week's gop fight
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for the latino vote in the sunshine state has become critical. former florida governor jeb bush made clear wyoming voting block is so important to the future of his republican party. >> the growing populations in all of the swing states are hispanic volares. i don't think a party can aspire to be the majority party if it's the old white guy party. >> statistics back him up. the population in florida alone grew by 57% in the last years. across the country nearly a quarter children are latino. the big worry got gop during the 2008 presidential election, nominee john mccain won just 31% of the hispanic vote. understood beginning attempted to court those voters to allow puerto rico decide the question on statehood. he made a special appeal to cuban americans in florida.
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>> i would like a cuban spring in 2013 to help the people of cuba liberate themselves. >> then about an hour later mitt romney took the stage and focused on that same theme liberating cuba. >> there is a time coming soon where cuba will be free. that's going to happen, but we're going to have to get organized for it, recognize that the people there want freedom as people do all over the world and america can't sit back. >> the battle for the hispanic vote was evident during the debate. gingrich was asked about a spanish ad his campaign aired and pulled calling romney the most anti immigrant candidate. >> is he still the most anti-immigrant candidate. >> my father was born in mexico. that idea is repulsive. >> director of communications
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for latino decisions and a fellow at the center are politics and governance at the l.b.j. school of public affairs at the university of austin, dr. soto thanks for coming in this morning. i ran a few voting drives for latino community in california. do they slant mostly to democratic or republican? >> the latino population is approximately at 16% however given the age of the population, it's a very young population and the fact that about half of the population is undocumented, that takes that number and surprises it down to about 8%. however, many latinos are concentrated in key swing states so even though nationally they are only 8%, california, texas, nevada, and swing states like new mexico and
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colorado, they have a substantive part of the electorate. >> do they vote? >> it depends. many latino voters don't have the resources aren't mobballized to vote. that's where the campaigns come in. the obama campaign did a fabulous job in 2008. >> are there certain issues that prompt them or propel them to vote in some elections rather than others? >> the conventional wisdom is that it's immigration is the top concern, but what we've seen over the course of the last couple months is that it's the economy. latinos care just as much about the economy and unemployment at non-latinos. sure they care about immigration, but it's not as over looming as the media and candidates make it seem. it's for more complex.
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>> in some key states and the ones we talked about texas california florida particularly, new york is the latino vote, that 8% enough to swing an election. >> not in the the super blue states or super red states, but in and a half and a half it is and in new mexico and california. we saw that in 2010 with senator reed. he survived because of the latino vote. that percentage that put him over the top was because of latinos and he knew they were going to be his life raft and aggressively courted them. very important also in congressional elections. your senate elections congressional elections and even state elections. >> as we said in the intro this has become a particularly important focus for the republicans in florida and we know why.
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the republicans blocked immigration reform, blocked the dream act which president obama wanted so can they really appeal to the latino vote when they're acting and voting against them? >> they can't. they can on the issue of immigration. president obama made a promise of immigration reform and he failed. >> he gets blamed for republicans blocking the vote in the senate? >> he's given a pass, but he can't come back to that issue and woo them like he did in 2008. republicans for right now are going forward their rhetoric was too harsh. >> i have to ask you this. for years and years under democratic presidents and republican presidents, the cuban american population in miami has controlled policy. are they still as strong or was it ever really a threat in the united states? >> it's still as strong, because
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those folks who came over in 1959 and early 1960's, many are still there and they tend to be older folks who vote all the time. they vote before and still keep voting and fidelis still there. the fact that it is a personal issue. >> how about the younger members? do they feel as strongly as their grandfathers. >> we don't see that cuba centered growth with the younger populations. we saw young cuban republicans cross over and vote for the president, so we do see a loosening of those ties, but those initial immigrants, still as strong as ever. >> great to see you today. >> thank you. >> president obama appears to embrace
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>> president obama's taken on a populist tone, but is it just talk or is he ready to walk the walk? >> first the sanity break. 1832 charles dodd son was born. a mathematician by trade he also dabbled in writing first writing a poem at which time he took the pen name with my carrol. he would go on to write alices adventures in wonderland and through the looking glass. we will go on until we come to the end then stop, because that's what you do when you get to the end. time marches on! >> we begin with the adorable clip of the day. don't you hate it when somebody leaves the t.v. on and nobody's watching or is somebody watching?
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>> something tells me he doesn't get around too often. of course, our apologies to brian wilson. time marches on! >> on the road this week, president obama's populist message garnered a lot of positive attention. will he now deliver a real
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replays at 11:00 a.m. and 2:00 a.m. eastern. in 2008, obama said he would bring change we could believe in. change is not really something he can run on this time. in our third story it seems president obama has found his new identity, the populist pot. throughout the president's 65 minute state of the union he hammered home a need for economic fairness and a sharing of the financial burden. >> and i will not go back to the days when wall street was allowed to play by its own set of rules. if you make more than a million dollars a year, you should not pay less than 30% in taxes. if you make under $250,000 a year like 98% of american families, your taxes shouldn't go up. now, you can call this class warfare all you want, but asking a billionaire to pay at least as
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much as his secretary in taxes most americans would call that common sense. warren buffets secretary there in the gallery. responding to an enthusiastic audience he took his message even further. >> i don't want to be in a country where we only are looking at success for a small group of people. we want a country where everybody has to chance. i want this to be a big bold generous country where everybody gets a fair shot, everybody's doing their fair share everybody's playing by the same set of rules, that's the america i know, that's the america i want to keep, that's the future within our reach. >> what's going on? let's bring in rolling stone contributing editor matt tiebe. >> your latest article "is
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obama's populist message real? >> when it comes to the wall street stuff i cover there's a lot of enenthusiasm no the last 10 minutes before the show happened. there's news about this long anticipated foreclosure settlement that it looks like it's a much, much better deal than anybody ever anticipated. >> for consumers. >> for consumers and not for banks. the expectation from people like me for a long time was that this would actually be the equivalent of a giant tarp sized bailout allow these banks to escape perhaps a trillion dollars in liabilities, but they've narrowed the focus so it only covers a small amount of liability and still leaves these banks incredibly exposed to all kinds of criminal investigations. that's an enormous victory. >> in this article your
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skepticism is dripping about what obama might do, so he sort of surprised you about that. >> everybody yeah. >> he recently created this task force on mortgage originallization. >> originallation, yes. >> headed by the new york attorney general. is he the right guy to lead it? >> absolutely. shneeder man and the california attorney general are probably the people who are responsible for getting that good foreclosure deal. they held out refused to sign on to a bad deal and that's probably why we got a good deal on the foreclosure thing. now, what schneiderman is going offafter, the foreclosure deal covered a small portion of the fraud that went on during the mortgage years. there is a much bigger galaxy of misdeeds that went on in the creation and pooling of sub prime mortgages and all these banks are guilty of these
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offenses. schneiderman is looking right at that fraud. he's definitely the right guy to look at it. >> might we see some of these guys go to jail? >> absolutely. if they do this for real, like a real enron style investigation you could have half the luminaries on wall street doing prison time and i'm not even kidding. really, every single one of the major banks was involved in this sort of activity. they all made enormous profits from selling over evaluated mortgages to unsuspecting investors. >> sure, knowingly. >> and knowingly overriding their own due diligence people who said they're going to default. they covered up that information, dressed it up and sole them at triple a rated securities and made hundreds of billions of dollars and need to pay people back. >> back to the gist of your
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question. president obama promised that he -- campaigned on the public plan option and then he depend dropped it. he said we're never going to renew those tax cuts for the wealthiest americans and he did for another two years. has he turned a corner here and do you believe genuinely turned the corner and said now i'm going to fight for the 99? >> i believe he said it. i believe that they have gotten the political message that that is what people want. the question is will they really follow through will it be a cosmetic investigation or will it be a real cleaning up which the markets and -- but i think that they might there's a slight possibility they might have gotten the message. they haven't done it yet. they haven't put anybody done any investigations yet and that's a glaring oversight. >> i'm also speaking about the
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legislative agenda. the fight over the payroll tax cut deduction. >> righted, right. >> he held tight he held tough on that. >> uh-huh. >> and he brought painter to his knees. they only got two months, but certainly the republicans had to cave in on that issue. >> sure and why wouldn't he hold fast again? it looks like the republican party's in chaos right now with everything going on in the presidential elections right now. the republicans are weak right now and president obama, i think the situation with the influence of the state of the union address, the influence with the foreclosure settlement, he should feel confident in the payroll debate that's going to happen in the next three weeks or whenever it is, he should stand tall right now. >> yeah, and who would have thought that income and equality would be an issue in this campaign. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> thanks for coming in very much. the governor of arizona welcomes the president of the united states to the
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>> a democratic president is greeted by a finger wagging governor in arizona. big mistake. >> the message of occupy is still strong even ifffffffffffffffffffffffffff (vo)the young turks are here. >>win! >>cenk uygur and his team take the headlines head on. >>i accuse you because i have the numbers. >> now my commentary for this friday night. just because it's a clue chai doesn't mean it's not true. sometimes haste makes waste a rolling stone gathers no moss and a picture is worth a
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thousand words. the picture that flashed around the world the dutyup in the desert. there she is, january brewer, welcoming president obama to phoenix by wagging her finger in his face. she looks like an angry mother scolding her kids for not eating his peas. she certainly doesn't look like the governor of a great state welcoming the president of the united states. you think she'd dare greet president bush the same way. president obama ever the gentlemen keeps his hands at his side. he told diane sawyer: >> there's a picture out there of you with governor jan brewer. she said you were tense. >> what i've discovered is that i think it's also good publicity for a republican if they're in
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an argument with me, but this was really not a big deal. >> how about governor brewer? has she apologized? no way. she not only refuses to apologize, she blames president obama for overreacting to what she wrote in book: there's only one reason he could disagree with that, that's what she said: >> the bottom line is the book is true. i want our borders secured. i want our nation protected. he wants amnesty and we're never going to agree on that, and we agree to disagree on that subject. i don't know why he was surprised by my book but he evidently is and he's very thin skinned in rewards to it. >> thin skinned? that's what she said? we all know that's not necessarily what she meant.
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so many americans seeing a white woman wagging her finger in a black man's face, she was making a different point about obama's skin, not how thick or thin it is, but what color it is. in the short term, may gain her political points but in the long material, president obama could end up the big win are because among latino voters, nobody in arizona's more unpopular than jan brewer who championed legislation forcing them to carry papers or get deported. anybody she's against they are automatically for anybody she insults, they support. in arizona as go the latino voters, so goes the state. the end of the dust up in the dessert could be president obama carries arizona in november, 2012. and all because jan
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>> so the drum circles have been quieted and the tents taken down for occupy wall street, it's impossible to evictim an idea. our number one story from the state of the union to the latest republican debate in jacksonville, florida last night. politicians are talking about those 99%. >> i do want to address the subject about taxing the rich. that is not a solution, but i
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understand and really empathize with the people who talk the 99 and the one, because there is a characteristic about what happens when you destroy a currency. there is a transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy. this has been going on for 40 years. >> talk focused on deficits, but occupy changed that. people are talking about income and equality and corporate responsibility. that's one of the reasons why three years after the financial crisis that plunged this country into the deepest recession since the great depression, time magazine named the protestor its person of the year and occupy as the 1% versus the 99% chant that become part of the national lexicon. the occupy effect reaches far beyond questions of inequality as iraq veteran writes:
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>> he joins us tonight, derrek mcgee, iraq veteran occupier and author of iraq's journey from wall street. i spent time with the occupy movement in washington d.c. and i must say, you are the most unlikely occupier if i can put it that way. i mean, you've been a marine, served in iraq, you've been a banker on wall street with merrill lynch. what attracted you of all people to the occupy movement? >> well, i think what got me to go down the first time was simply because of having an understanding of what went wrong in the financial crisis, knowing that there was the steps that had been promised, the
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regulation that was supposed to come in so it never happened again never took place. the account bite i thought should have been there wasn't there. i went down for the purpose of arguing just that one point. i didn't believe in a lot of the other things that i saw on signs and didn't have a lot in common with a lot of the people down there but when i went down there, i started hearing and researching, finding that there was a lot wrong and these people had a real serious point. >> when you were working at merrill lynch or i don't want to single them out or on wall street, why not but when you were working on wall street, did you see some of the abuses that occupy is talking about? >> i mean, i didn't see i wouldn't say i saw anything illegal. i saw what i would consider very unethical behavior as everything was crumbling around us, our own corporate was telling us everything's fine, buy the stock, everything was great. we knew that was lies. i became sort of disillusioned
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with the whole corporate structure and this system that allows an entity to act without ethics and no one has to be held accountable and no one has to feel guilty. >> i was struck by your first visit to lower manhattan battery park was in december, 2001 when you were a marine helping protect guard. >> we were living intents in battery park. >> and then you come back as a protestor, part of the occupy where the new york police are there basically corralling you. what did it feel to be on the other side of the law enforcement or authority line? >> well, it was absolutely polar opposite, as you can imagine. in the one case we were being applauded for being there and everyone thought we were upholding freedoms and that sort of thing and then the second time, which i thought we were almost doing the same thing down there, trying to defend freedoms
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and uphold what we thought was right. we were then being absolutely castigated for it, and i would say oppressed by the police. >> were troubled that sometimes the occupy movement was not able to get a real fix like criticism, you don't have a real agenda, they didn't have a list of demands. you seem to be a very organized focused person. >> one of the great parts about that was you had everyone in the country asking us what we wanted which doesn't happen very often. i think that that, it's missing the point. i think what it was was not so much about any particular issue. it's everyone is starting to feel there is a disconnect between their vote and then sort of an equivalent amount of political involvement, and that is what brought everyone together. so it doesn't really matter what their issues were, they felt like no one's listening to us.
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>> i just saw in washington d.c. today, one of the last cities to get rid of the tents the tents are gone from macpherson square. if the tents are gone and drum circles quiet is the occupy movement over? >> absolutely not. i think the occupy movement did a brilliant job of what it was out to accomplish, which is to get publicity. time, almost every table in the country was talking about the 99 versus the 1%, which in terms of getting publicity for a movement, it's just unbelievable. it was brilliant and it was absolutely effective. >> what do you think the lasting impact is going to be? >> i think that everyone feels that they're not alone. it used to be i think before the occupy movement, everyone felt that we were resolved to be angry about issues and there was nothing we could do about it really and that's just the way it was. people realize now that everyone is feeling sort of left out of
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the democratic process and that we're not going to go back to just accepting it. i'm not sure exactly what form it will take, but when hit does, people are ready to get involved. >> i think certainly one of the building words, one of the most powerful kind of son septembers at all that's been implanted in the american people are 99% versus 1% and that's going to she a theme through this campaign. i think president obama keeps trying to make the point that he is fighting for the 99% and pointing out that mitt romney looks a lot like the 1%, doesn't he? >> yes, he does. >> and that income and equality are going to be a big issue. >> well, yeah, that issue has got to go. >> thank you for coming in tonight. veteran and occupier and author of an iraq's journey from wall treat to
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