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♪ >>(narrator) it was here in these woods off florida's i-75 that in the space of one year the police found the bodies of seven men.
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they were killed with this gun a high standard, double nine point twenty two. richard malloryry, walter antonio, dick humphreys, david spears, charles carskaddon peter siems, and troy burress. >>helicopter whirring >>(reporter )eight men have been shot in cold blood on central florida highways, including the busy tourist route of i-75, but this time there's an even more chilling twist to the slayings. police say for the first time in criminal history, these killers may be murdering with a feminine touch. >>(narrator) on january the 9th, 1991, aileen carol wuornos was arrested in daytona beach, florida. she worked as a hitchhiking hooker. >>how you doin'? >>well, i came here to confess to murder. >>(narrator) this is the original police video of aileen wuornos's confession. i wish i never would got that gun. i wish to god i never was a hooker; and i just wish i never would done what i did.
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i still have to say to myself, i still say that it was in self defense, because most of 'em either were gonna start to beat me up, or were gonna screw me in the (bleep), and they'd get rough with me. so, i'd fight 'em and i'd get away from 'em. >>(narrator) the idea of a woman killing men, a men-hating lesbian prostitute who tarnished the reputation of all her victims, brought aileen wuornos a special kind of hatred. terri humphreys's father was a retired police chief. >>there wasn't any sex involved in my dad's murder. the cut him, they did an autopsy on my dad. they wouldn't release his body for over a week. the cut him from stem to stern. there wasn't any semen there anywhere. >>you just cannot imagine the grief, the hurt, the anguish that they have caused. this family, this is a man that i had for 50 years.
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>>i hope she meets up with quote, old sparky. you know who old sparky is. >>(narrator) politicians in the christian right campaigned for aileen wuornos's execution. >>because i'm tired of this re-election jazz. they're just trying to get promotional ladder climbing, political prestige from this. and, i'm sick and tired of this. i'll probably get three more death-row sentences, and then i got to go to pasco and dixon for two more death, uh death row, how many times you gotta kill me, you know? i mean this is, this is (bleep). they don't need to be doing this. >>(narrator) even ted bundy was offered life imprisonment. this was never offered to aileen wuornos. by the time i met aileen, she already had four death sentences, but surprising, in an odd way, i found her to be the most honest person involved in the case. all the others, her lawyer, her born-again christian mother, the police, has all been involved in trying to sell her story for as much money as possible.
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>>(security door opening) >>hi, how do you do? >>(narrator) this is aileen when for my original film, the selling of a serial killer. >>i say it's this: the principle is self defense. they say, it's the number. i say it's the principle. the heck with-it has nothing to do with the number killed. it's the principle. but, they're saying "if there's a number", no. self defense is self defense no matter how many times. i don't care if it's a hundred times. i was very-i never provoked those guys. i never provoked 'em. i never showed any provocations whatsoever. i was very nice, very decent very clean, very lady-like. i didn't even swear in front of my clients, and a lot of my clients i talked about jesus and i talked political, both, mixed together. i never argued. >>(narrator) my old film had ended with this announcement of
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the resignation of florida police officers who had illicitly entered into hollywood movie deals to sell the story of america's first female serial killer, the aileen wuornos story. >>agent dan henry resigned as chief of staff of the marion county sheriff's office after being notified of an investigation conducted by the florida department of law enforcement. the investigation begin conducted by the florida department of law enforcement centers around taped telephone conversations, made by deputy munster, between he and major henry involving the aileen wuornos case. >>(narrator) there was speculation at the time that, if police officers did infect receive money, all of aileen wuornos's death sentences could be overturned. ♪ >>(narrator) twelve years later, aileen is still on death row. there was no proper investigation into the police officers and their movie deals. it all got covered over.
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aileen and i kept in touch over the years. and then, a few weeks ago, i opened my front door and, to my amazement, was served with a subpoena to attend aileen's final appeal before execution. i had no idea how things would turn out, and that i'd be witnessing an execution in one and a half year's time. this is ocala, florida. all us witnesses were housed together in a motel. >>we're gonna win this thing. i'm telling ya, we're gonna win. (laughs) >>(narrator) this is joe hobson, aileen's attorney. lawyers like joe are kept very busy. four thousand people are on death row, waiting for execution. >>ok >>you're not very good at wheeling this. >>i'm sorry. i'm sorry, bro. >>and has this particular case been stressful, the aileen case? >>uh, it's so important because this is the legal system in a
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phase where it's doing the most important thing it can ever do and that's taking a human life. it's more important than a money judgement, or a, you know, adjudication of guilt with 30 years in prison, and, um, we've really gotta be careful, i mean the whole system's gotta be careful. and, my opinion, and the whole just, our emotion is that she's been failed by the legal system. >>(narrator) joe hobson felt that aileen had been poorly represented by her previous attorney, dr. legal. >>most of us would probably never worry about spending time in jail, but if you're ever involved in the criminal justice system, you will need a laywer-- >>(overlapping sound) (narrator) joe hobson was hoping to get aileen a retrial by discrediting dr. legal, otherwise known as steve. this is the ocala courthouse where we're going to spend the next week. steve the lawyer had made no attempt to investigate the cops. he plead guilty to all the murders and didn't even try to make a deal for a lesser sentence. aileen had no money to pay him so steven used the money obtained from interview fees.
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this man in front of me is the state prosecutor who wants to execute aileen immediately. this is the first time i've seen steve for eleven years. he said my film got him run out of town. >>(bleep) >>hi >>(bleep, bleep) (bleep) you and your documentaries. don't talk to me. >>why? >>don't talk to me. >>all rise, please. court is back in session. >>ok. you may be seated. all right, let's continue. >>now, um, you were contacted by mr. broomfield, uh, in 1992.
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do you recall charging, or attempting to charge mr. broomfield $25,000 for an interview. >>i didn't attempt to charge anybody anything. if ms. wuornos asked me, "steve," or, told me "steve, i want $25,000 for this interview. i would pass that on to the person who's interviewing. but, it's not my position to set fees, or even have a fee schedule. >>will you admit that you're depicted on the movie "the selling of a serial killer" doing exactly that, trying to get 10,000, or, i think $25,000 for an interview? >>i don't think there's any evidence that i tried to get $25,000 for anything. >>so, the next stage is really to come up with a counter offer. >>no, the next stage is to come up with $25,000. >>(woman) right. >>(broomfield) we just can't do that.. >>(woman) well, do a counter
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offer. >>(steve) if you don't, then the next stage is to do a counter offer, and let's tell her something. >>so, we would basically then, well, we'd pay the money to you? as her legal-- >>as her mom, and then steve gets a percentage as our agent. >>right. >>(woman) very tiny percentage. this poor man works for nothing. >>nick, wait a second, what's davy crockett doing on the $100 bill? thank you very much. >>have you seen mr. broomfield's production of "the selling of a serial killer"? >>yes >>and you've seen yourself depicted in that movie? >>yes sir. >>do you recall joking in that movie that your advice to any client facing the electric chair was, to quote woody allen, don't sit down? >>i remember making a lot of
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jokes in that movie. >>(joe hobson) judge, we're talking about the depictions of mr. glazer in the movie "the selling of a serial killer" that the defendant submits fairly captures the essence of his approach to representation which clearly impeaches his claim that he had taken this an altruistic, pro bono, national lawyers guild and helps establish the claim that all along his motive in taking this case was the publicity and the money to be made. is on the new news network. >>welcome to the war room. >>jennifer granholm joins current tv. a former two-term governor. >>make your voice heard. >>detremined to find solutions. >>that partnership in order to invest in our country is critical. >>driven to find the truth. >>how did romney get his groove back? >>fearless, independent and above all, politically direct.
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>>(narrator) i have to say, i always liked steve. he was an old hippie from micanopy who was just way out of his depth. >>the only thing really to do here is to have breakfast and then leave. >>(narrator) this is dawn botkins, aileen's best friend. >>what was that little ditty you had about ocala? >>(narrator) i really don't believe steve took the case on for money, but he was so inexperienced he could only plead guilty for aileen. he didn't even had a fax machine or law office. >>when i was living in a teepee on micanopy i had, uh, i went through the whole thing, cows, chickens, geese... >>(woman) i got all that. >> i had a cow called sir angus mcbeef, just so you know what he's gonna be, you know you try to rationalize it, you're going into the refrigerator, you're going to--that was the last meat i was able to eat. >>(woman)i guess you can look at it that way. >>(dog whining) >>(narrator)aileen lived in a total fantasy world. she thought she'd get off the
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murders and then live with this woman, arelene pralle, a born-again christian who had seen aileen's picture in the local newspaper and adopted her. together they planned to run a hose ranch and raise she-wolves. arlene pralle, the born-again christian, hired steve and persuaded aileen to come clean with god and plead guilty. steve had been advised that aileen was paranoid and suffered from borderline personality disorder, but still went along with his cock-eyed scheme. aileen seemed to think a miracle might happen, and was outraged to receive three more death sentences. >>(judge) i sentence you to death for the murder of charles humphreys. case number 91-112 cyprus county case number, i sentence you to death for the murder of david spears. >>(aileen) thank you, and i'll be seeing--i'll be up in heaven while you all rot in hell. get raped in the (bleep) some of these days. >>(judge) ok, there will be an automatic appeal.
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you have the right to an appeal. mr. glazer, is that going to be handled by you? >>may your wife and kids get raped. >>(steve) i would ask that-- >>right in the (bleep). i was raped and you aren't nothing but a bunch of scum. >>(judge) therefore these proceedings are now completed. >>putting someone who was raped to death? (bleep) mother (bleep). >>(narrator) in many death row cases, a client in despair will say they want to die. it was measure of steve the lawyer's inexperience that he took aileen's wish on face value. >>(judge) sir, would you come on up here, please? >>(narrator) i like to flatter myself that i was being asked for my legal opinion, but it turns out i was asked to talk about steve's marijuana smoking. the big question was whether steve had consumed seven very strong joints before giving aileen legal advice in prison. >>you know i've got a short video clip i want to show. it's an excerpt from the film
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that depicts this alleged six, seven joint ride. and, as a preliminary question isn't it true that in doing your work you routinely edit things correct? >>well, you always edit afterwards, yeah. >>(prosecutor) editing involves cutting and pasting and putting things together. >mm-hmm >>(prosecutor) correct? >>yeah. >>(prosecutor) that's what you do all the time. >>i don't know about the pasting. you certainly can't-- >>(prosecutor) pasting in terms of inserting and connecting and making things fit together. >>(broomfield) correct. >>ok. >>(narrator on clip) it was 6 am. steve said it was a seven joint ride to the prison, and he brought along a tape of his own music with him singing and playing all the instruments especially for the occasion. >>( on clip, a cover of pink floyd's "time")
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♪ ticking away, the moments that make up the dull day. you fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way. ♪ ♪ kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town. ♪ ♪ waiting for someone-- ♪ >>ok, let's go back. do you recognize that? >>yes. >>that's your work, isn't it? >>i apologize for the quality. that's not a very good copy. >>(prosecutor) but that's your work? >>yes. >>did you notice that the shirt that mr. glaze has on is white? >>(broomfield) uh-huh. >>now, here he's got a blue shirt on, correct? >>(broomfield) maybe he changed his shirt. i don't know. >>(prosecutor) but he had a blue shirt on-- >>(broomfield) and now he's got a white one. >>(prosecutor) now he's got a
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white shirt. >>well, it's possible he changed his shirt. i've got-maybe he put on a clean, white shirt for the prison visit. >>but isn't it also possible that you just cut and paste--took footage from one episode and cut it and paste it into another episode to make it look like something that hadn't, in fact, happened? >>uh, i remember distinctly the seven joint ride if that's what you're referring to. i don't remember him changing his shirt, but we could, if you want, we can make all the outtakes available from that particular journey. they are still available. >>(prosecutor) that's not very convenient right now, and you hadn't made those available before-- >>well, i didn't know you wanted them before. you know, i didn't even know that the film was going to be submitted as evidence. if i was making that trip, i would probably change my shirt
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at the end of the trip. >>but that's not the point of my question, is it? >>(broomfield) i don't know, but i would probably, probably bring a clean shirt along for my visit. wouldn't you? i would. >>no touching. >>i'm sorry. [[vo]]...we're the idea nobody wants to hear. ...until the truth reveals itself. boat-rockers. and above all... and there's only one place you'll find us. weeknights on current tv.
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i just got the popular girls from the local middle school to follow me around. ew. seriously? so gross.
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ew. seriously? that is so gross. ew. seriously? dude that is so totally gross. so gross...i know. there's an easier way to save. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. >>this is outrageous! [[vo]]cenk uygur calls out the mainstream media. >>the rest of the media seems like, "ho-hum, no big deal."
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we've have no choice, we've lost our democracy here. just refreshing to hear. no other television show does that. we're keeping it real. >>>(security door opening) >>(broomfield) my goodness. >>oh my god. >>how are you? >>good. get out of there. >>i'm sorry. >>(guard) he's putting a microphone on her. >>whew! >>(broomfield) it was a microphone that just--sorry about that.
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>>oh, lordy! ok. i can't believe this microphone, how small it is, y'know, and it actually works. >>(broomfield) it actually works. >>(laugh) ok, nick. nick, this interview, man, i gotta tell you--let me do this thing over one more time, cause i know you guys pretape, and you clip and stuff. so, let me say it one more time, kind of right, ok? >>(broomfield) ok. >>cause i'm really concerned about the family members. i gotta get my hair out of my face, cause i'm really concerned about the family members, so i want to say this again, over. um, nick, the reason i'm coming forth with you, with this interview, is because i like to come clean about my cases. and, because there's about a one percent chance a person can get off death row, and i come to realize that that is actually
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true, very, very true. there's only like eighty two people that got off death row in like, like thirty years, out of, like four or five thousand death row inmates, and those are only dna people, blood samples. so, the chances of getting off death row are one percent, ninety-nine percent you're going to be on it, and you're going to die. ok, i cannot go into the execution chamber, and die in the execution chamber as a liar. and i cannot go in the execution chamber and be executed under the devil. i have to come clean and cleanse my spirit in the name of jesus christ. um, so i have to come clean and tell the world the lies that went on through my mouth, i mean, the prosecutors and the cops-- >>(broomfield) and that you killed the seven men. >>huh? >>(broomfield) that you killed those men in cold blood. >>yeah, and i gotta come clean that i killed those seven men in first degree murder and robbery
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as they said. they had it right, serial killer. not so much like thrill kill. i was into the robbing biz. i mean, serial killers are into this thrill killing jazz. i was into the robbing, just and eliminate a witness. but still, and again, i got a number, so it's a serial killer. but, i'm coming clean before i go in the execution chamber and be executed, that i killed 'em. >>(broomfield) so, when you met them, from the beginning did you know you were going to kill them? when they picked you up in their cars? >>i pretty much--i pretty much had them selected that they were going to die. >>(broomfield) but, then you're saying that there was no self defense. there was no self defense. >>yeah, there was no self defense. uh, i'm being really straight up about everything. there's no self defense. i'm really sorry about what happened with everything. i was in this--this--to me, this
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world is nothing but evil and all of us are full of evil one way or another, in whatever we do. we have evil in us, all of us do, and my evil just happened to come out because of circumstances, what i was doing. hitchhiking, hooking, on the road, i was a homeless person all my life. hitchhiking and hooking i learned off the homelessness and cruising all over the unites states of america and stuff. and so, learning how to be a hooker as a hitchhiker eventually got tiring in the end. i carried the gun for protection, but then i got where i was getting a real problem. our rent was due, twelve hundred dollars behind, tyra was doing a lot of beer drinking and stuff. she wanted to go out all the time, so she was burning up the money i was making. i was making good, about two three hundred a day sometimes, sometimes-- >>(broomfield) but did she know what you were doing?
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>>oh yeah, tyra always knew everything i was doing. >>i met her in a bar. >>(narrator) this is aileen's great love, tyra. one of the reasons i had felt so much sympathy for aileen was that she was betrayed by those closest to her all her life. >>we were sitting on the floor watching tv, and she just come out and said, "i have something to tell you." and i asked her, "what?" and she said that she had shot and killed a man that day. >>(broomfield) tyra knew about the murders all along, but didn't come forward to say anything until she was questioned by police. tyra, who was never charged with anything, was then made a state's witness, and it has been asserted, became part of the movie rights package in the hollywood police film deal. it was tyra who got aileen to confess in a series of taped phone calls. >>(phone recording) hello? yes? yes? >>hi. >>hey. >>hey, i had to call you early because i didn't know if you were going to leave today, or what. >>i don't, what the hell is
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going on, lee they been up to my parents' again. they've got my sister now, asking her questions. i don't know what the hell's going on. >>huh. what are they asking you sister questions for? >>i don't know. >>hmm. >>lee, they're comin after me. i know they are. >>no they're not. >>they've got to. why are they asking so many questions, then? >>honey listen, listen, do what you gotta do, ok? >>i'm gonna have to, because i'm gonna go to jail for something you did. this isn't fair. my family is a nervous wreck up there. they been calling me all the time. she doesn't know what the hell's going on. >>ok. do what you gotta do, ok? hon? >>what? >>i'm not gonna let you go to jail. >>i don't know whether i should keep on living or if i should-- >>no ty, ty, listen >>and what
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if they don't believe me? >>ty, now listen. i'm not gonna let you go to jail. if i have to confess, i will. >>ok. (end of recording) >>(broomfield) so, you were very close? >>yeah, we were. >>(broomfield) alright (laughs). >>and i still miss her, and i still love her, and i'm real sorry about everything i done. i miss ty. i lost tyra over this, and then the people that lost their loved ones and everything. i really think first about the people that lost their loved ones, and then ty second. cause i have to put them in first on this whole thing. i'm really sorry for, you know them losing their loved ones man-- >>and what about with richard mallory? because, you gave that testimony with richard mallory? >>yeah. richard mallory was definitely not self defense. richard mallory i killed for--he had--i needed his wheels to move the stuff, and he had the right amount of money i needed to move into the apartment, so--
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>>but, what about the testimony that you gave in court about-- >>i just--like i was saying-- >>about the visine and-- >>well, i was just doin a lyin biz. that was just my lying gig trying to beat the system. >>really? so, that was really all--none of it was true? >>and he said, "it doesn't matter to me. your body will still be warm for my huge (bleep). and, he said--he was choking me, and i was holding it like this and he said, "do you want to die, slut?" and i just nodded no, and then he said "are you gonna--you gonna listen to everything i've got to say, have you do?" and, i jus nodded, yes. >>(attorney) then what happened? >>he takes the visine, and he lifts up my legs, and he puts
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what turns out to be rubbing alcohol in the visine bottle and he sticks some up my rectum area. and, that really hurt, really bad, cause he tore me up for a while. and then he put some in my vagina, which really hurt bad. then he walked around, back to the driver's seat--side, pulled my nose open like this, pulled them open and he squirt rubbing alcohol down my nose. and, he said "i'm saving your eyes for the grand finale.", and he put the visine back on the dash, and i spit in his face. he said, "you're dead bitch, you're dead, and he's wiping his eyes, and laid down real quick
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and i grabbed my bag. and, he was starting to come for me, and i grabbed my bag and whipped my pistol out toward him, and he was coming toward me with his right arm, i believe, and i shot immediately, and i think i shot twice, as fast as i could. >>(broomfield) because, in court you gave such a graphic description of what had happened with richard mallory. >>yeah, after sitting around thinking how i could drum up a story, y' know. >>it was pretty convincing. >>was it? that's sad. >>well, i thought so. >>god, that's sad. well, >>and it's not, it's not that you just decided that you wanted to die and you wanted to get it over and done with that you changed your story. >>no, the reason is--it's serious, there's no way--nobody should go into that execution chamber dying on a hope for a
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lie, and a--even by the second make it out of this thing on a lie. >>but, i heard, y'know, that you just couldn't stand being on death row after twelve years. >>nick, and this is the last time i'm gonna say it, you have to kill aileen wuornos cause she'll kill again. the newest voice in cable news is on the new news network. >>it is an independent progressive voice and i love that. >>jennifer granholm joins current tv. a former two term governor. >>people like somebody who's got a spine. >>determined to find solutions... >>we need government to ensure >>driven to find the truth... >>what's really going on? >>fearless, independent and above all, politically direct.
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>>(narrator) i had always believed that aileen wuornos had acted in self defense, and that richard mallory, her first victim, who had a long history of sex crimes, and who had spent five years in an institution for sex offenders, had tortured and tormented aileen, pushing her over the edge into an insanity which led to the other six murders. this is what aileen said to judge muriel blunt before the sentencing on the richard mallory murder. >>what i did was what anybody else would do. i defended myself, which everybody has the right to defend themselves, and i had no intentions of killing anyone. i would not do that. i'm not the type of person. >>(narrator) but the jury didn't go for it. this was aileen's reaction on receiving her first death sentence. >>(foreperson) the majority of the jury, twelve to nothing, recommends to the court that it imposes the death penalty on aileen carol wuornos, also knows an susan lynn blahovec, also
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known as lori christine grody, also known as cammie marsh greene. dated in volusia county, florida this 30th day of january, 1992. >>(reporter) aileen, how do you feel about the verdict? >>i'm innocent. i was raped, and i was tortured, and they had a steering wheel, richard's steering wheel, and it has scratches all over it, it's broken. it's proof that i was tied to that steering wheel, and i cannot believe that this is what happened. >>why did the jury find you guilty? >>i think it's the media coverage. it's a conspiracy.
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>>(narrator) i couldn't believe what happened the next day in court. aileen objecting to her own witnesses. >>um, and i need to get this on the record, if i could. >>(judge) she's taking it down. >>um, there's some witnesses that are coming to this thing, and i've already told my attorneys on numerous occasions, these people did not grow up with me, at all. um, they lived in the neighborhood, but they didn't really associate with me, or my brother, or my sister or anybody else. >>(judge) here's the thing, the attorney can call them, but he can't put anyone on that he thinks is committing perjury. it's unethical for him to do that. if he thinks they're lying--if he knows that they're lying he can't put 'em on. >>ok >>(judge) thank you. >>thank you. >>judge. >>yes ma'am--uh, yes sir? >>may the defense request a ten minute recess? >>ok, in view of the statements >>i'd just like to confer with my colleagues.
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>>of course. ok, we're gonna talk ten minutes and confer, ok? we'll have a recess for ten minutes, ok? >>(narrator) aileen was deliberately sabotaging her own defense, but the witnesses were called anyway. danny calwell, like many other boys in the neighborhood, lost his virginity to aileen. aileen was trading (bleep) for cigarettes from the age of nine. >>i was just heading over there to see who was there, got up to the fort, and the door was kind of closed, so i opened it up and keith and mark had aileen in there. >>(attorney) what do mean, had her in there? >>they had her in there, and she was naked >>and, what was happening?
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>>well, keith was having sex with her. >>did you stay during that? >>yes. >>did you ever have sex with aileen again? >>uh, just that day. >>(narrator) jerry moss, who was a lover of aileen's, pretended in public that he didn't even know her. >>she wanted us to be boyfriend/girlfriend in public and i-- >>(attorney) when you were in public around other kids, when the rest of the kids were around, how did you treat her? >>like she was nobody, like she was dirt, like i had nothing to do with her, y'know. >>what would you say to her? >>get the (bleep) out of my face, and go some (bleep)ing place else. >>did you call her any names? >>call her ugly, bitch.
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>>if she were following behind you, what would you do? >>would, um, depend on who's with me or whatever, but i would turn around and throw rocks at her and tell her to get the (bleep) out of there, go home. >>why--why would you do that? >>cause i didn't want to be seen with her, didn't want to be associate with her. >>do you know whether she was having sexual relations with anyone else at this time? >>yes i did. >>and, who was that? >>her brother, keith. >>is that her uncle, or is that her actual, biological-- >>actual, actual brother. >>(judge) i just want to make sure that, you know-- >>i just want to remark that you need to take a polygraph on what they're saying, because there's too much perjury going on.
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>>all right.. >>(narrator) michelle chovaun recalled an incident with aileen's grandfather. >>i don't know how much you want me to say. he was a bastard. >>(attorney) do you recall an incident when you and aileen skipped school? >>yes. >>what happened when--did you go to aileen's house with her? >>um, i walked home with her and we had gotten caught. and, i remember looking through the front, they had a screen door view, and the minute she walked in, he had her over a chair. and, um, i stood there and watched him, and he beat the hell out of her with a black belt that was around his waist. he took it off, and told her to lean over the chair, and walloped on her for a good five minutes. >>was this what you would call a
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spanking? >>oh, no. no, it was like--it left me hypnotized. >>did he know you were watching? >>yeah, he did. he was aware i was watching. >>is that just an example as to-- >>that's an example. yes. >>(narrator) it had been a long week. all the witnesses stuck together in this motel. >>do you think we'd all go mad if we're locked up here much longer? >>(narrator) dawn insisted that gays hadn't been invented when she and aileen had been friends. >>they weren't invented, or whatever, there was no gay people. >>(broomfield) well, what were they all doing? >>they weren't gay. there was no such thing as gay. >>(woman) they were in the closet. >>no they weren't. there was no such thing. i don't remember a person at i didn't hear this gay stuff& till ten years ago, well, maybe fifteen. it's just now starting to be acceptable. (laughs) but, no there was not.
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was there gay people when you went to school? >>i'm sure that there were. i went to a british public school. there were many--that's where it was invented. us and the greeks, y'know? >>no way, really? >>mm-hm. yeah, of course. >>i just had to this, sorry. look. come on, you guys. >>(narrator) after all that, aileen decided to volunteer for execution, and we all went home. now that aileen was confessing to being a cold-blooded killer aileen found she had a lot of new friends. >>her appeals have been exhausted. she wants to meet her creator. she's on my list, absolutely. >>(reporter) governor jeb bush is expected to sign wuornos's warrant soon.
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>>the blood is in the water and the sharks are bipartisan.
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>>you got a bone to pick with that? >>(narrator) we had all come to this as witnesses, hoping to get aileen of death row, but it now felt like we were taking part in an execution. there was talk of making an appeal on the grounds of aileen's mental competence. we traveled to troy, michigan, where aileen grew up, to find out more. this is dawn's house. >>hi joan, how are you? my kid's just come over with the grandbabies. you get to see' em. >>this is my granddaughter and my grandson. >>(narrator) dawn gets up and every morning. >>i got looking for one thing today. so, i figured while i had aileen's (bleep) out,
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you can sit here. >>all this? >>yeah, i got lots of pictures of her brothers, and stuff like that that you might want to look at. >>really? >>well, yeah? >>all this? >>all of this. i was lookin' for her will. got to find that will. >>her will? >>yeah. can you just sit down for awhile? >>(narrator) aileen does the most amazing ink drawings, that you could only see against the light. >>you can't see 'em by looking down at 'em, but it's perfect with the sunlight outside. see how that does that? >>wow. have you got any pictures of when she was quite young? awww. >>(laughing) isn't that kind of funny? >>it is funny. >>oh, that's her sister. that's her graduation. >>that's lori? >>and that's what she looks like now. >>(narrator) there were other photos, too. aileen, aged four. her brother keith, aged six. aileen's biological mother dianne, who abandoned aileen
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when she was six months old. aileen's father leo, who was convicted of kidnapping and sodomizing and eight year old boy; he committed suicide in prison. aileen's grandfather, lawry, who she called, "dad", and is rumored to be aileen's biological father. he abused both aileen and her mother. aileen, aged thirteen, when she got pregnant and had a baby boy who was put up for adoption. ♪ >>(narrator) after the baby, aileen became the local untouchable. she spent two years living in the woods at the end of her street. >>(leaves crunching) aileen used to have a fort back >>(broomfield) oh, with dennis? >>yeah.
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>>so, aileen would just sleep rough? >>mm-hm. she'd either sleep in the cars or she would go around prostituting at night to keep warm, stuff like that. and, hopefully she'd get a hotel. you know, some of these guys would say we could get a hotel then she could get a shower. that's how she washed and stuff like that. or, she would go to that gas station up there, which is still there, by the way. used to be the clark. we used to go there, and pinch our nose, and drink, what was it? peppermint schnapps. it was disgusting. it was the only way you could drink it. to get the quick buzz. it sounds sickening. it was sickening. >>but, it must have been freezing in the winter. >>well, it was for her. i didn't come out here in the winter, i'm sure. i don't think none of us did? >>she was out here in the winter? >>yeah. that's why she left. >>did the other kids pick on her? >>(laughs) yeah. do you remember where we're at? yeah, they always picked on her, or she picked on them, because they always had something terrible to say about her. but, that's because she had a
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baby, and they naturally assume that she--well, she did get--y'know she slept with people for money and all that, so i imagine the girls, in our days, thought, "well, she sleeps with everybody" and they didn't like that. they don't think it's funny now, though. >>how do you mean? >>they think it's terrible, how they treated her. >>now. >>and everybody all of a sudden comes out of the woodwork and says, "oh, i was nice to her. i gave her clothes and stuff like that." no they didn't.
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