tv Countdown With Keith Olbermann Current March 20, 2012 8:00pm-9:00pm PDT
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>> the first exits broken down by area, rural voters in illinois cnn exit polls santorum 44 romney 39. suburban romney 45 santorum 34. unless you have no idea of what's more or less, you can tell the suburban and urban voters are going to give mitt romney a probable victory in illinois, even though it is officially too early to call. >> when paul ryan released his budget proposal last year, it became the national economic platform for republicans. any republican who did not offer full support was as true astro sized.
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a new budget offers tax cuts to the rich. capitol hill was seemingly holding its collective breath for the release of ryan's latest budget proposal after his dramatic trailer. before ryan could make it onstage to receive is oscar, he was beat to the podium questioning the need for the proposal. >> those who say we do not have a budget have either failed to pay attention to what they voted on or deliberately trying to mislead the public. >> rather here to offer americans a chance to choose which future me want for themselves the president's path of debt and decline or the path we're proposing.
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>> according to analysis, deep cuts to medicare, medicaid and reduced access to health care and diminished quality of care, all the while increasing defense spending and providing $2 trillion in tax cuts to wealthy americans. it would lower the discretionary spending cap that was agreed on. the big change from last year's proposal is the inclusion of the agreement on medicare, which would allow seniors the chase between traditional medicare and a voucher for private insurance. the senator apparently cannot support ryan's plan. >> he doesn't like the budget that ryan came up with. >> joining me now senior congressional reporter. the paint you made that the budget might be the issue of the general election campaign, is that because the republicans think they have a winner here or
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democrats now have the bloody shirt to say look, they reneged on this easy to understand deal. >> i think republicans are probably nervous about this budget particularly after what happened last year but hemmed in by a very well oiled well money conservative apparatus that expects them to support this and i believe they will. if the economy continues to improve, that tends to overwhelm other domestic issues. the appropriate way to look at this is that republicans who have had this long-standing goal of rolling back, privatizing these federal safety net programs, may have thought that the economy the bad economy was such a winner for them that they could campaign on these very controversial policies, and then when they win on the strength of a poor economy claim a mandate to both fix the economy but also
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undo the new deal and great society programs. over a year since they took over the majority of the house they're about to do this all over again. there's a decent chance five, six months down the line, they'd wished they held their cards much more closely to their vest. >> gingrich, courageous, romney, bold step towards putting our nation back on the track towards fiscal sanity, santorum, headed in the right direction. doesn't sound like these guys are ready to embrace ryan's proposal wholeheartedly. >> we saw this earlier in the campaign with gingrich and to some extent mitt romney about the previous in carnation of the same budget. they have to endorse it, and also all want to leave
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themselves enough space in the general election they can say i disagreed with this or that part of it. really ultimately, the whole republican party the democrats will see to this, is behind this basic vision. all of their tax plans include tax breaks for the wealthiest americans, they all propose this privatized, subsidized version of medicare and want to roll back medicaid and other programs while increasing defense spending. they can quibble the details but they own this. whether paul ryan wants to give them an out later remains to be seen, but they're not going to walk away from it. >> speaking of walking away, senator's position on this, he took a lot of heat even negotiating with paul ryan, does he not have to disavow this
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thing rather than have senator reid speak for him? >> i think there's no way that senator widen owned expressly say he supports the whole budget. he never supported this sort of tax policy, he never supported slashing food stamps. he did support a very similar medicare proposal to the one that's in ryan's new budget. there are some differences. he could in theory walk away from that, but i don't think he can walk away from it because the differences aren't that major and little known fact is that he is off the reservation with the white house. heavy some issues going back about a year, and so i don't feel like he thinks he needs to be on the same page as the rest of the democratic party on this issue. so it's conceivable has he can say that he supports poll ryan's new medicare proposal without
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supporting the entirety of the rest of the budget. >> the senior congressional reporter for talking points mental row as also, thanks for your time. >> 911 tapes showing a was wasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasasas well, online dating services can get kind of expensive. so to save money i've found a new way to get my profile out there. check me out. everybody says i've got a friendly disposition and they love my spinach dip. five foot ten... still doing a little exploring. but...
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the chicago tribune is reporting that the gop presidential primary today in chicago and the city only is on its way to becoming the lowest turnout ever for a presidential primary in chicago illinois, according to the city at 2:00 p.m. central daylight time, 15% had voted the previous all time low, the 32% that voted in the 1996 republican primary. early indications of tremendously low turnout at least in chicago in tonight's illinois republican primary counts. >> first the sanity break. march 20 on this date, richard
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>> two headlines out of the illinois primary, fox news has become the first organization to call this one to estimate that romney will in fact beat santorum as all the exit polls and prevoting polls indicated. also, there is a report from the huffing toton post indicating 98% of republican voters in illinois today were white. >> on february 26 an unarmed african-american kid was walking home in a florida gated community. he was shot and killed by a so-called neighborhood watch figure, who claimed he was acting in self defense. the death has been followed by weeks of rallies outrage and demands for justice growing in number and volume and now finally investigations. the civil rights division of the justice department joins the f.b.i. to monitor the probe.
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the local county grand jury will investigate, yet the shooter has not been arrested or charged. walking home talking to his girlfriend, treyvon martin was spotted by volunteer neighborhood watch figure george zimmerman. zimmerman found martin to be suspicious and called the police: >> despite the did it matcher advising him not to, zimmerman pursued martin: >> moments later martin was shot in the chest, died at the scene. because of his claim of self defense, george zimmerman has yet to be arrested or charged. a 16-year-old friend of martins on the phone with him at the time of the incident provided
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further evidence that it was martin being pursued: >> martin's family's attorney claimed the investigation is just the beginning. >> even though the justice department and the f.b.i. have opened up an investigation we will not stop, we will not rest until he is arrested. >> joined now by senior reporter for the huffing to know post, thank you for your time. >> good to be here. >> how is it zimmerman is not under arrested or charged at this point? >> it depends who you speak with. if you talk to the police chief he says there is no evidence to refuted zimmerman's claims of self defense. if you talk to the martin family's lawyer and talk to folks they say there is a long history of distrust and police not holding folks accountable
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when they need to be. >> we know the d.o.j. investigation would look at zimmerman. are they also looking at the police department and why that one sat on this case and has for more than three weeks. >> in talking to folks who have a pretty good understanding of how this will work and turn out basically, the d.o.j. and f.b.i. will put a lot of pressure, and that's exactly what the family wanted. they have no faith in the police department. they hope by having this third party investigation, they put a little pressure. clearly they'll be looking into bringing their muscle to the investigation. >> you mentioned history and distrust. this mr. zimmerman has a history, isn't he a constant almost paranoid presence about outsiders and people he perceives at threats who turn out to be people just walking home? >> most certainly. since january 2011. he's called 911 about 46 times.
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he has a history of following individuals in their vehicles. he basically has some as the lawyers say a cop complex. he wanted to be in law enforcement so bad he had a habit of taking things into his own hands. >> florida has this stand your ground law which does not require a threatened citizen to retreat if he acts supposedly in his own defense. in the aftermath of the martin case, isn't it obvious that that's what opened the door to exactly what has happened, no arrest in the case? >> certainly. there have been a number of state legislators who want to review the law. some call the law the make my day law the dirty harry law. there's too much wiggle room here. all you need to do is say you felt in fear or imminent danger and that's all you need to meet
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deadly force. that's what has folks concerned. they're afraid they might end up with a situation like this when they have a young man unarmed shot dead. >> this stuff has been going on for so long that it's hard to believe that even some white people don't recognize this. twenty years ago a little more, i moved from an apartment in los angeles, just across the street into beverly hills and southern california tremendously diverse in terms of the community there. that doesn't mean anything. i would go and do my food shopping after work about midnight, walk to the store and walk home. the first few nights, first time i was living in beverly hills i crossed into beverly hills a police cruiser would come out of nowhere, put a blinding light on me for a couple of seconds and turn it off. the fifth or sixth light they turned the light on me, shined the light on him and didn't turn it off. he was black.
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they stopped and questioned him. what is it going to take to save the next treyvon martin before we realize how rampant this kind of racism is? >> it might take a treyvon martin to save the next. i'm talking about folks black white, it's not even a race issue, it's a morals and ethics issue. so often we have to deal with layers and layers of stereotypes and as young black men you raise these boys up to be strong and proud but wary. unfortunately in doing so, we steal their in sense. i'm not sure what it will take, but i think if there's any good out of this, is this treyvon martin and the community galvanizing around it and bringing attendance to it, no matter black, white, whatever your class is, it's hard not to be touched by this case.
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>> it's important to picture yourself in the situation i described. at that point you realize even just for a second what it's like to be suspected not for what you've done, but just for what somebody mistakes you for thinking he thinks you look like at a distance. it's an extraordinary and in my case a cheap lesson. for this poor young man in florida, a very expensive lesson. >> the update out of illinois, romney is called there antchicago tribune record low turnout predicted. the latest from the illinois primary, first the idaho state
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preabortion ultrasound. state senator chuck windor said: >> the idaho law would require any woman seeking the abortion to have an ultrasound first and give them the opportunity to see their fetus while the doctor describes it in detail. if she's in her first trimester it involves the invasive transvaginal procedure. if they still want to terminate their pregnancy the woman would have to submit for a second ultrasound. i'm joined now for more on this. thanks for your time tonight.
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>> thank you for having me. >> so, how doctors have to make sure that rape or incest victims are not lying this idaho senator won't rely on police records and reports? >> it's pretty appalling that he expects doctors to investigate whether women are telling the truth when they go to their doctors seeking medical care, but it's part of a continuing trend that we've seen from republicans waging their war on women who question whether women are actually raped or whether they're just trying to exploit what they think is a rape loophole because apparently there are all kinds of fabulous prizes and gifts available for women who were raped. >> why has this ultrasound become the new weapon of choice? >> i think it's part of this idea that women are so stupid that they don't understand that they're pregnant and if they can be forced to look at pictures or listen to heartbeats, then they'll understand that pregnancy means being pregnant and won't want to terminate
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their pregnancy anymore. they just need it explained with pictures. >> one more fundamental fact, but the latest u.s. population estimate that came out last month was 153,200,000 men 157,200,000 women. then are the minority in this country. how are they getting away with this and how come women are not organized in self defense? >> i think women are starting to organized, but women have been very good soldiers and when they're told their pet issues are issues that don't matter to the majority of the country they put it aside and say we won't worry about our own health care. this war has gotten so ugly that women are organizing to fight back and saying we are the majority and deserve our basic health care rights. >> can you fathom the overall strategy? >> i think they're desperate.
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they're scared, because they realize that people are starting to pay attention and fighting back and the more people fight back the more desperate me become to try to stop women from having a role in the public sphere. >> thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> an update, the violence against women act gathered it's votes. in 1994, the senate majority
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head-to-head with ron paul and newt gingrich way out of networks now projecting that romney wins illinois tonight, projected numbers romney with 56% santorum 27, ron paul nine and newt gingrich, just watching at 7%. wrapping up our "countdown" covering with sam cedar. good to see you again. we have so many numbers to pick from. the economy was the number one issue. that is a bad omen for republicans. what about romney's path, has he just accelerated it today? >> he didn't hurt himself. this was a pretty big win if those numbers stay true. he's probably going to have a tougher time in louisiana. over the course of the next couple months, even if romney was to win every single delegate, i think now until he would still -- he still would
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not clinch until the end of may beginning of the june. so this is just going to continue and again, you know, what's the intention for santorum to get out of the race. i don't think he has given up on 2012, but he's starting to think of 2016 and is now becoming the pastor cementing his favored status with the base, and so, then it gives him room to maybe maneuver four years from now. >> i've got three other numbers that i really like tonight. number one was the chicago turnout date that that indicated in chicago this would be not just the record low, but by half, that it was at 15% at 2:00 this afternoon. it could be as low as 50% of the next lowest turnout. >> i think you'll hear from republicans that it was really sunny, people wanted to go out
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and enjoy the weather. >> that usually means more people turnout. i might have started got that one. >> the argument you're going to hear is people wanted to spend the day outside hanging out and not voting. i think what it shows is what we've known all along, the republicans are really am witch vent and not just about romney, but also santorum. that's the problem romney has. he's not running on anything. all the grief santorum took for i'm not basing my campaign on the unemployment numbers he has a point. romney is running on hoping it's a bad situation for the country and people will want a change. >> turnout number we'll attribute to ferris bueller day in chicago singing wayne newton and going to the cubs game. they actually asked dog owners about shamus.
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35 said that his treatment would make them less likely to vote for him. i'm telling you. >> how many of those people knew the exactly, it's the spreading of the story accelerates it goes exponentially from here on. >> i don't think you need to be a dog owner. >> i thought you were going to say you don't need to be a dog. >> or dog owner. it's very strange behavior. i've lived a fairly rich life, and i've never seen anything like that. and i've seen some very strange things. >> is that a dog on that guys roof? >> i've never met anybody. >> is that dog landing on that guys roof? >> this is something that's so far out of the bounds, it's very hard to say to each his own. >> early in the hour, i mentioned craig crawford, we need to get that back story completed, because we don't know if he ran away when he got to canada. now there's going to be an investigation. he's going to wind up in
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