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monday morning may 7th, vice president joe biden shaking things up a little bit. quick correction. six states have legalized officially legalized same-sex marriage with the district of columbia making it number 7 and vice president joe biden says his disease has evolved. he is comefortable. president obama says not yet. judy from virginia. hello, judy good morning. >> doing okay on a gloomy morning. >> i know. the sun will come oute. >> what do you think? >> i just think the main think that made a difference to me is since the president has not come out, i think it makes sense not to. now seems like it's too much of a political season. but if we hang in there, i think we can probably get the job done in the second term. >> if it's the right thing dodd,

why not now? >> because i don't think he would get elected. if he doesn't get elected. >> you think this issue, alone, could be the issue that would decide the election? >> i think for some people it would, yes. there are plenty of those single-issue out there. we saw that in ohio. >> absolutely. there are people. i wonder whether those people who are so set against it would ever vote for -- would ever vote for him anyway. probably not, i would think. judy, appreciate hearing from you. roger in seymour, seymour, indiana. hey, roger. >> yeah. >> what do you say? >> i think joe biden is right on. president obama should go ahead and wait because this time me and my partner have been wading for three years now. so. >> it might be a long time before it happens in indiana?

right? with that governor you have got right? >> unfortunately, we are in the back woods over here. >> right. so i hear you. you are a gay man in a gay relationship? right? >> right. >> and you don't care if the president just holds off, continues to wait to evolve? >> no, because, you know, the whole sglunings will be okay with it. >> i think you are right about that. i was wondering, you know, so why do we have to wait? if it's the right thing to do, do it now. i think -- i may be wrong. i just think the american people would understand this is moving in this direction. it's not right to discriminate against anybody and the president is showing some leadership on the issue rather than so often it looks like politicians get around to do asking after everybody else has already moved.

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but first ginning into the spin room today, a lot of talk about mitt romney and how he secured the nomination. who is he going to pick to be his vice presidential running mate? everyone has advice for him, including john mccain. >> the absolute most important aspect is if something happened to him, would that be person be well qualified to take that place? i believe that was the primary factor of my decision in 2008. i know it will be mitt's and i am happy to say we have a deep bench. who who does he think he is kidding. that will one factor that the person he named is qualified to take over as president of the united states is the one factor missing in john mccain's decision four years ago. do you think that anybody, anybody believes they are available or is really to take over as president of the united

states? peter? >> i don't know who he thinks he is fooling with that. i mean first of all, i don't think john mccain believes. that. >> no. i think if you could not -- you just could not be -- he is no doneny. you can't be as smart as he is and think sara palin was ready to take over as president of the united states. >> if you were running with john mccain and you were to buy him a drink and said all right. let's talk here sarah palin? he would probably say, yeah, that was a bad idea. that was a bad idea. >> i hope to believe that he would. folks, you should know this is teacher appreciation week, and tomorrow is national teacher day we always like talking to randy weingarteng. president randy weingarten good morning. >> good morning. how are you? thank you for joining us so early this morning.

>> this is time that most teachers are up either finishing their less options or rushing over to school. it's interesting. it's like when i taught when i was a living room teacher, he would be up somewhere between 4:00 and 5:00 in the morning because, you know, you are always -- people don't ever really understand just how much work teachers do each and every day to prepare. it's like when they are in school, that's when they are actually, you know, almost like when football players on the field, people are standing. never understand how much work teachers do outside of the classroom. >> that's an excellent point. another reason we know that is because we get called from so many teachers around the country here on the show. right? who are either already in the -- early, early, who are already in the classroom or on their way.

right? and i am always impressed by the fact that they are such early starters. what is the message that you want the american people to know, american people should know about the work teachers do? >> look, this is -- we know that the economy is still struggling and as a result but schools have been cut severely. on the budget cut, teachers were lionized. this team, teachers are reviled. >> that's just wrong. there is no -- this choice that you know you see politicians make or try to draw between teachers and students is false. it's damaging and what we need to do is we need to during teacher appreciation week we need to help all of our kids

have a better tomorrow. teachers spend every day of the classroom with their kids. they know how to foster creativity and we need to respect and value their choices and ensure they are at the table developing and implementing the reforms that help our kids. so my real message is stop. it's not parents that do this. stop the politicians and stop people what want to make money off of education, let's stop them from creating the narrative that barbs teachers. let's try to work together. we have stepped up taking more responsibility. we are making sure all teachers are making sure if there is swung who can't teamt teach, we usher them out of the profession. everybody has to take more responsibility. number 1 teacher on this teacher appreciation week, let's stove

stop this narrative that pits students against teachers. what. >> what has been the impact of these cuts to budgets for public employees at particularly the city level? >> let me just talk about the cut in terms of teachers. the metropolitan life a survey that just came out a couple of months ago released a survey that said the cuts the budget cuts this year and they do a survey every year of teachers and the demonization of teachers, this kind of double-whamny. politicians don't know what to say and they demonize teachers and a smoke screen is formed but the cuts and the demonization has taken a terrible toll on teachers' jobs and we know it

jeopardizes students' success. so this is what we see. two-thirds of the teachers in that survey reported their schools had lay-offs of teachers and lay-offs of parents as community liaisons: so in terms of that nearly 3 in 10 teachers said there were health and social service cuts in their school. we know this is at the very same time and people have gotten poorer and poorer. half of the country is within 10% of the poverty line. the average class size and we talk a lot about education technology, but the teachers said the educational technology has not been kept up to date. we saw nearly 300,000 education jobs in the country have been slashed in the last couple of years and we have seen two-thirds of teachers saying

our kids are regularly coming to school hungry and school meals are their reference source of meals. so what we are seeing is a picture of real struggle between budget cuts because of the struggle in the economy and yet, at the same time we know that we have to the get ourselves out of this economic crisis. we have to help all kids, not some kids, become critical thinkers, become competent learners, be able to communicate. so it's a big job that teachers have when they are being told as they have to do more with less when they have taken, you know, cuts in salaries freezes in salaries and that's why on this teacher precipitation week, not normally, you know, this focused on it. we have to respect teachers. most of the time i talk about teachers. teachers make a difference to kids, in lives of kids every single day and we have to

respect them. >> to me, it's so basic, that every way american, he that's why i don't understand where this hosility comes from because every american, we are today and every one of us has to say because of, you know one or two or three teachers along the way, i can remember the ones that were most important to me. i think every american can. right? starting at this elementary school level and in high school people that really took time to pay attention and to help you out and, you know, encourage you to try to accomplish everything that you could and without them i don't know where i would be. >> i think whoops is that everyone when they are first, you know, fortunately people remember that the one or two teachers that they didn't like and what we are -- and what you see is you see allotted of

politicians basically deem monizing about that and what we are saying is look what we have done. we are making sure -- we are doing what we can to make sure that everyone has a great teacher. ultimately no one wants, quote bad, end quote, teachers in classrooms. you know, what's sad is that the union never had that responsibility to, you know not just to police our profession but to ensure quality. we have stepped up and said, our job is not simply to try to fight for fairness. our job is to fight for resources. special resources for schools and to fight for quality. and i think that's what, you know, people have to see about us. at the same time, we need others to sut down and maketake more responsibility. you are totally right. people remember their great teachers. >> yes. >> everyone remembers who has molded their lives.

>> i am so grateful to them and to you for the great leadership you are providing. randi weingarten president of the union for teachers. thanks, randsi. we are there for you. thank you for being there for us yes, indeed, we will go back and get your calls on the main topic of this hour vice president, joe biden, might have even surprised the white house. i am not sure whether they knew he was going to go on "meet the press"and say, hey, same-sex marriage, the president may not have made up his mind. i made up my mind just like dick cheney said. i don't care what george bush thinks. i have a lesbian daughter and i am all for same-sex marriage. should the president jump on board? 866-55-press. >> on your radio, on t.v., the bill press show. new on current t.v.

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it's going to be in favor of the state of north carolina because it's it's just the way things are down here. you hear that preacher. >> yeah, the beat your kids? right? >> right. beat your kids. told him to beat them, you know. it's really crazy down here. >> that's the way things are going hopefully we will prevail like we did in 2008, the state was blue. and i think this can happen. i think that the state house and state senate's going to go back to the democrats because some of the crazy things going on. that's what kept us from having a real hard time, you know so far as being able to vote vote and everything. after losing her job, she lost. it's crazy.

>> one thing president obama is going to pick up north carolina again because why the democratic convention is going to be held in charlotte and boy, he has made almost as many trips to north carolina as he has to ohio. shield sheila in arizona, what do you say? >> i enjoyed meeting you five years ago, by the way. >> i remember that well. >> i am just scared to death if obama were to take that position. i am like judy like your earlier caller. >> you think he ought to wait? >> i think he should wait and then during his second term, just kind of beat into it a little bit. i am afraid there is too much at steak. i am 100%. but i think we might have a president romney. >> yeah. >> god forbid that. it's interesting because, you know a lot of the president's supporters are saying, come on

you know. you have to lead the parade, not follow. >> i know. >> ir hear you saying if he wants to take some time, take it. >> yeah. >> thanks, sheila. from johnny in north carolina. >> how are you doing? >> all right. what do you think? >> i think he needs to leave it alone. he don't need to be discussing this. right now, this has done more to the communities than any other president in the history of the united states. i am black. i've got hispanics in my family and he didn't pass the dream act, done nothing special for black people. he has done everything he can for gays. and really we need to concentrate on not having social issues brought up and put in front of people because that's what we cut out the woodwork. >> that's when you get people

like the compproposition in california because that's what brings them out. >> i have to tell you it's interesting. every one of the callers has said, take your time, mr. president. wait until the second time? >> okay with us. as long as he does the right thing once he gets there. what do you say? come back and take a look at some of your e-mails as well. we are off and running on monday, may 7th. good to have you with us. >> this is the bill press

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>> how about it? on our big topic of this hour kirk bowman says being a member of the lgbt community, i am comfortable with president obama's waiting until his second term to support marriage for all. i believe in his heart of hearts that president obama is a supporter of marriage for all. and bill i am surprised at your advice considering how closely divided this country is reported to be. on teachers dave wants us to say, just a reminder, bill and crew while we appreciate everything the great teachers of this country do, it is also national nurses' week. let's remember the hard working nurses as well. i love nurses of this country. i can't believe the nurses and the teachers are shayring the same week. well, kudos to you both. >> this is the bill press show.

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>> hey, what you do you say? it's monday, monday, may 7th. good morning everybody. welcome to the full-court press here on current tv. it's the bill plex show. i am bill press liberal and proud of it. good to see you today. we have a lot to talk about as you may know. vice president joe biden got out ahead of president obama yesterday on meet the press saying that he fully supports the same section marriage even though president obama says his decision is still evolving on this issue. well, now the president has got to make a big, big tough decision.

will he support a plank in the democratic platform at the convention supporting same-sex marriage, or will he ask democrats to hold off until his second term so he can make his decision then? big decision? i think he ought to move now. we will talk more about it and a whole lot more. but first, let's get the latest here with today's current t.v. news update. jacki schechner in los angeles. >> has been has been discussing the ballot to ban same-sex marriage is on the bill and recent polling shows it is set to pass. an estimate to vote in favor of the amendment at least somewhere around 57 to 59%, but ptp points out in some respects north carolina voters will be voting against their believes.

it bans 7 unions. 5% of voters vote one or the other. that it would ban both. many support voting against the video, including bill clinton. >> this is president bill clinton. i am calling you to urge to vote against amendment 1. >> i am going to be voting against it. >> the president recorded it leaders held a rally. progressive blogger pam spalding reports that the naacp lgbt and progressive groups are working together and that collaboration should continue beyond this particular fight. we have much more bill press coming up. you can join us online to talk

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day. here from our nation's capitol around the country and around the globe and there is a lot going on. the president with meetings at the whitehouse today. congress is coming back in session. new president in france and a new prime minister in greece both of them the french and the greece citizens rejecting austerity measurements saying governments ought to spend more, not spending less. maybe that message will trickle down here to the united states. who knows? we have lots to talk about today. we will take your calls, too at 866-55 press. and here in the studio with us team press peter okay burn. >> hi, there. >> dan henning? >> bill, good morning. >> proudly wearing his ohio state university hat? >> thank you for that. >> and the road trip and cyprian boulding. i can't see. >> he's got it on. absolutely. >> all right.

guys, good to see you. we talked a week or so ago about maybe doing away with the pinney? right? canned has shown the wayne. the sglufrnings leads on things like this. canada last week did get rid of the penney. here is a reporter from the canadian press, steven lambert telling us something we talked about is what happened like 99 -- 2.99$299 or $3.03. how do you pay for that? it's easy he said. cash registers will round up or round down purchases so if you buy something for a dollar 2, it will be rounded down to a dollar. if it's a dollar 3, then the price gets rounded up to a dollar 5. >> i love it. >> you know what? it's going to be rounded up more than rounded down. it's not that complicated. >> i am not the worldst smartest man. lord knows i am never going to

be a politician, but it makes sense to me that if it costs two or three sentence -- >> did we point out it costs like two and a half cents to make a penney? >> if it costs two and a half cents to make one penney, it seems like a bad investment. it doesn't make sense to me. >> if you start out a penney and a half in the hole. >> you are going to lose money. >> you are. >> they are a pain. they are a pain in the a . i have them in the seats of my car. good for them. >> i save mine. >> you save yours. i have seen bill walk in front of a moving car to get a penney out of the street. >> it's money. having said that, i will not let -- i will not walk past a penney in the street. i can't do it. i can't do it. i mean maybe i just -- you know we didn't have any money when i grew up. so i learned that from my

parents that and my grandparents, you know penney pinching but i would be for giving up the penney. i would miss the penney. >> you recognize it's a bad investment? >> trying to save money every way we can. i would rather do away with the penney that fire a teacher. right? >> sure. >> for example, so i think it's a smart move. what a line-up we have for you today. we saw the jobs report on friday. positive but not as good as people were hoping. secretary of labor, hilda solis will be here in studio to take us all through the numbers and what they mean. she will be with us in the next hour. we are also going to talk about apple making great products but making paying no taxes and we will talking talk to david sarota, a good friend from out in denver on am 760 in denver and he is going to be joining us as well achlthsz later.

but first: >> this is the full court press. >> well, on this tuesday, headlines making news, bill shaquille o'neill, the four 5 nba champion you should call him dr. o'neill. he earned a doctorate in education from berry university in miami over the weekend. this is not an honorary degree. he has been going to school for the last four and a half years for this. the 7 foot tall player lifted his professor up on stage. he earned a bachelor and a master's and now the doctorat and he retired from basketball a year ago. >> no kidding. good for him. >> i love shaquille o'neill. >> i just hope -- i mean there are so many bad role models today. >> after vice president joe biden talked about what the former nbc hit show will and

grace did to educate americans about gays and lease beanswers on meet the press yesterday, they took to transitt twit tory place him. deborah coremac supportedfor biden. will and grace. >> good for them and good for joe biden. >> the baseball game did a in boston between the red sox and the baltimore orioles began early in the afternoon, lasted through the late afternoon and into even. 17 innings in all after the teams were tied at 6-1 after 9. they went so long over six hours that they ran out of pitchers. baltimore first baseman chris davis took to the mound. >> my god. >> he ended up getting credit for the win for the baseball game but he went 0 for 8 while batting at the plate. then won the game.

>> they didn't have any more pitchers. they ran out. >> my god. >> more specifically did they run out of beer? >> that's the thing. >> they shut off in the 7th inning. so you had to go another 10 innings without beer. >> is that what they do? no rule for extra innings? >> not that i know of. any baseball game -- we could check with our sports master cyprian but i have never had them reopen. i have been to 12 innings. >> you can still get at hot dog. >> thank god. >> i could not go 10 innings without a hot dog. okay. folks, i have to tell you it was on the road saturday when the president -- well, that's a little exaggeration. with the press core on the press charter plain, there is a pool of reports all of the rest of us from the white house press core were on the press charter

leaving andrews air force base at about 8:00 o'clock tout to columbus, ohio and the big stadium there with president obama kicking off the first campaign rally, official campaign rally the 2012 season and it was a great scene, tons of people there. the president introduced by the first lady, a wildley en theft accuratic crowd. before the president spoke in columnbus ohio the president spoke about 1 just a little bit after 1:00 o'clock but some. warm-up speakers former governor ted strickland spoke, several students spoke. sharod brown, been here many times with us as well as former senator john glen. so it was a great, greater than tuesdayiastic response there.

then we hopped on the buses back to the air portion and down to richmond village to the commonwealth university. a capacity crowd. the fire marshall had shut down let meing anybody else in that particular crowd and a wildley enthusiastic crowd and first lady introducing the vice president of the united states and we are off and running. what was interesting was that we really heard from the president the scenes we are going to here from now until november. he said as we were speculating on the plane on the way out to columbus, document he will mention mitt romney by name? he did. et mentioned several times by name and just said that romney has learned a long lesson from the jobs that he had before and is now would take this country

in the wrong direction. what we heard mainly from the president and the first lady was the word forward. forward. we've got to keep moving forward. there was this big banner at each end of the hall forward signs were handed out to the crowd, one side said, forward. the to your knowledge on this i'd, in white lettering and on the back side, it said not back. the president starting out in columbus, ohio started poking a little bit fun on i think one thing romney wishes he had never said. >> corporations aren't people. people are people. >> people are people he went on with that team down in richmond video camera, he pointed out, you know, mitt romney, again, so out of touch that he just doesn't understand what life is like for average americans.

>> he doesn't seem to understand that maximizing profits by whatever means necessary, whether it's through layoffs or outsourcing on you union busting might not always be good for the average american for on for our economy. >> and the president said, you know, here is where you will hear the words: we can't go back. we can't go back to the policies of the george w. bush administration. we've got to keep motor vehicling. there is word. forward. forward. president obama. >> we have come too far to abandoned the change we fought for these past few years. virg, we have got to move forward to the future when we imagine in 2008. >> this is obama at his best. he is great in front of a big crowd like that. they were wildly enthusiastic. so we get back on the plane, leaving columbus and one of the reporters from abc turned to me and he said, so did you see

drudge? i said, no, what are you talking about? >> he said you didn't see drudge? the headline in drudge as soon as the rally was over, there was a photo of some empty seats and the headline was, 4,000 empty seats, obama bombs in columbus, ohio. he said this is such nonsense. i was there. that hall holds 18,000 people. there were 14,000 people in the seats. there were another 1,000 people on the floor in front of the president, the mast there in front of the speaker's platform am and there were some empty seats way, way way up high in the nose-bleed seats. maybe they could have filled those. buzz the point is there were 14,000 there you know, the largest -- i thought i ought to tell you that. it was bad enough that druj makes that. women expect it from drudge. we expect it from the right-wing

block but yesterday on this week abc, tapper filling in for george stephanopolous. jay tapper makes a big deal. >> one of the headlines is the lack of enthuse yavpt or less. when i covered you guys in your campaign in 2011, 2008, you and your staff members would excitedly regal us with huge numbers of crowd estimates and at osu and ohio state yesterday, in a stadium that seats about 18,000, there were runner 14,000 people there. granted those 14,000 were very excited, supported the president but there were more than 4,000 empty seats. does thant indicate there are a problem. >> i couldn't believe jay tapper would ask that question. david axelrod was ready. >> you should have been along on the whole trip. in virginia, there was an overflow crowd and that's the way it is. but the fact is that 14,000 is

11,000 more than the largest crowd mitt romney has drawn. i think there is enthusiasm. we have tremendous volunteer response from that event. i am certain we are going to have an enthused volunteer core and enthused elector ateate out there. >> it's a question for the media that look for the one negative thing they can talk about and ignore the rest. intlomz with a clear message about con trest but thebetween moving forward with his policies or moving backward to the bush cheney days with mitt romney backwards to the john boehner, paul ryan budget which mitt romney has endorsed, the president was clear on there. there was a sell-out crowd.

the packed house in richmond. 14,000 and wildly enthusiast i can supporters and the biggest crowd mitt romney got in his whole freaking thousand. if they want to make this about audience size, about enthusiasm bring it on. >> obama would crush mitt romney when it comes to that. >> let's get two football stadiums. put them side-by-side. put romney in one, obama in the other. case closed. helex over. i.q. will go way up. about this issue. >> on your radio and on current tv, this is the bill press show.

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♪ >> heard around the country and seen on current tv, this is the bill press show. >> david sarota from denver am 760, coming up in the next segment of the full-court press this morning. fired up, ready to go. heard that chant over and over again in columbus, ohio and in richmond, virginia, on saturday and the approximately saying, among other things the nation after 10 years in iraq and afghanistan, the president said, the nation we need to build now is right here at home. brian, in woodstock, illinois, what do you say, brian? >> good morning. >> good morning. i am in the car. >> i can hear it. >> very quick, the election, i

was struck by i thought it was better than all the of romney's speeches i had heard. i think i heard echos of excuse me, of f.d.r. he reminded me of liking to replay it all the time. where he talks about economic royalists. the people who want to take us back income inequality and going forward instead of going backward. i thought it was absolutely a great speech. i was surprised. >> it was. he was on fire. it could have been there were echoes of fdr. yes think of make that connection to that speak. i have heard it many times from

tom: i think you may be right brian. it was a populist message. >> beverly has been out in illinois as well. >> hi, bill. nice to talk to you again. >> you, too. i am great. pumped up after saturday. i could see why. unfortunately, i didn't get to see on television because i was gone but boy i got it on c-span later that night. fantastic. i agree with your first caller. it did sound almost franklinesque. what the call -- what i wanted to call about was i was so proud of david axelrod on sunday morning when he put down jay tapper but we have to remember jay tapper his best friend was mr. sanford from south carolina down there. >> i didn't know about that. at any rate, yeah, this idea of quipping about the crowd size, this is silly. >> this is the bill press

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happy to welcome to the program this morning a good friend first met him when he was here at the center for american positioning in washington and went out as chief advisor to brian switzer, our good friend governor of montana. he is an author latest book called back to our future writes the weekly klippel. most importantly is great radio talk show host on am 760 in denver, colorado, following the full court press. david sarota. good morning. >> bill, good to talk to you. >> good to talk. thank you for joining us this morning. i was with the president saturday in columbus and in richmond. i am curious as to from a distance, you know, what was the re, in colorado? what did you think about the quick off of the campaign? how did it play in colorado in. >> i think it's going pretty well for him out here. i think mitt romney is not the most inspiring romney and

because mitt romney doesn't have the ties to this region in terms of where he kind of grew up and i know he has ties to utah but he is known as sort of a michigan, massachusetts guy. i think that we may see a situation where obama is able to compete in states that collapsed haven't been able to compete out here in the west. barracks obama driver's license well out in colorado. even though he was facing acandate in 2008 who was from a neighbor being state. so i think we could see a similar map play out in terms of colorado and arizona may be up for grabs. >> the obama campaign, they have different maps, you know, as to how thifr going to get there. look at virginia, for example. big play for virginia. north care look a right? got it last time. they really are looking at some states that traditionally we

regarded as doubtful at best. what are the issues on the big issues on the ground in colorado? local issues there? >> obviously, the national issues are just some of the local issues. jobs locally. i think we are a state that's in particular suffering with really, really big problems when it comes to our infrastructure because we have -- we are the only state with the taxpayer bill of rights on the books which doesn't allow us to speed in a way that is necessary based upon our population growth. we have some serious challenges with our roads and bridges, et cetera, et cetera. i also think that the way that oil and gas drilling is managed out here is a huge issue, and a very, very tricky one. this is, if not the natural gas capitol of the country, it's one of the natural gas capitals of

the country and oil and gas drilling continues to move closer to major population centers. a couple of months ago, a marv fracking initiative. >> i was going to ask you about fracking. >> it's where they put these toxic chemicals in the earth to try to release more natural gas. they announced one about 12 to 15 miles from downtown denver. so the question. whether that's a democratic or republican issue, in the legislature it has split both parties along very, very inconsistent lines. the way the obama administration handled it friday, i think it's going to be a big deal in terms of for democrats and republicans. >> yeah. it's a big deal, also, up in the best. i'm sorry. the northeast here they hear it a lot in i think can a, new york -- ithaca, new york and it becomes a national issue because

the epa has to issue some new issues regarding fracking. the vice president stirred things up allegations yesterday on meet the press saying that he personally now is very comfortable fully supportive of same-sex marriage. the president isn't there yet. how do you think this plays? >> i think the longer the president says his position is evolving, the longer it logades like he is not coming at this from a position of principle. the way i looks at these kind of issues is it's kind of a statement of where you are in principle and the same thing with an issue like choice. i take the president at his word for a while his position was to try to work through his position. but at this point, i think as states move forward on this the longer he stays there, the more it will look like posturing. to go back to colorado in the legislature right now, the

republicans just join with the democrats to pass a bill out of committee in the republican-controlled houses to legalize civil unions. the president said he is for unions but a as a state like colorado, pretty conservative state is moving forward on civil unions. and the polling on gay marriage is what it is with a lot of americans supporting it. i just think we are reaching that moment where the more the president ses i am evolving, now it looks like he is not wanting to take a position when he really should. >> right. as you know, i am sure you talked about this is we have here on the show that there is a proposed plank in the democratic platform for charlotte which would put the democratic party out in front in support of same-sex marriage. >> that's a tricky one for obama. i would hope he would support it now. but about a big school of thought saying he will wait until his second term when it's a little safer. >> the executive order or his refusal to sign that executive order saying that there can't be

discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation among federal contractors, that raises a lot of questions about what's really going on here in an election year. i mean the bottom line, though, is, i don't see anything to suggest in the polling or otherwise that taking stronger positions or as strong a position possible on the issues is is an election loser. he only has something to gain from it. >> i was at a meeting yesterday, spoke at a gathering of financer advisors on the paid speaking circuit. the reason i raised it is because afterwards a gentleman from colorado came up to me with a question of all things david siroata, he wanted to know the chances of the legalization of pot, which i gather is an issue you have heard about in colorado. >> this is going to a state where we are going to have a ballot measure that says that pot should be legalized

regulated and taxed like alcohol in november. it's going to be a huge issue here. what's fascinating about it is is that i am not sure what it necessarily does up the ticket because president obama has been engaging in people were very excited about what he said about respecting state's medical marijuana laws but we have seen a number of raids on medical major facilities here in colorado. >> in calendar, too in calendar. the convention has been, unless you have a valid initiative legalizing marijuana that would boost for president obama. with the dea doing what it's doing, i think it will be an extra turnout. i don't know what that does for the presidential race. >> no, because you know the president is not going to come out in support of that. right? >> absolutely. he said he was not going to. >> he may not oppose it. mitt romney will oppose it. right? >> uh-huh. >> for sure.

it's interesting. even necessarilypel -- nancy put out a statement criticizing the initiative for marijuana medical clinics. it's a big issue. >> bill, it's a fascinating. there seems to be a, i think, a sort of -- the part of the justice department doing these raids in states at certain times seems to not be listening to the president. there was a situation a couple of months ago where the president had his letter out there saying we are going to respect state's medical marijuana laws and you have the dea engaging in these raids and dea agents, chiefs in different states making statements of vebrado saying we are not listening to the president. we are going to interpret his letter. i think what's happening, what we are seeing play out is kind

of a power struggle frankly between the white house and the dea and the justice department. >> when it comes down to it, of course priorities, i don't know whether you have talked about the zon edwards trial. the justice department has it's priorities ass-backwards sglfrningsz i agree. there is a situation throughout the country a couple of months ago, where they said they may look into at the federal level of various allegations of police bruisetality in cities throughout the country. as far as i know, those federal investigations haven't happened at the same time, you are right, the federal government going after john edwards. priorities when it comes to law enforcement because it's fine ite resources, those are some of the biggest decisions made in the justice department. >> yeah, so david, sirota those who are not in the colorado area and can listen to you every day where do they find you? >> am 760 from 7:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. local. >> online at? >> david sirota.com.

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from main yesterday. so i for get what his total is up to now. but he is going to have an impact at the convention. maybe he can get a prime time speaking spot. meanwhile, more speculation looking at the political landscape today about mitt romney's running mate, marco rubio is talked about a lot. marco rubio says after writing a book, appearing with mitt romney, it looks like doing everything he could to promote himself, yesterday, he says, okay. enough is enough. >> i am for thenot going to talk about the vice presidential spot but there are multiple ways someone can help our nominee and i look forward to doing that. >> if you were going to try to get advice as to how to choose a vice presidential running mate, who would you go to? the person who did the best job choosing a vice presidential running mate.

why not? john mccain. >> the absolute most important aspect is if something happened to him, would that person be well qualified to take their place? i happen to believe that was the primary factor in my decision in 2008. i know it will be mitt's and i am very happy to say we have got a very deep bench. >> 2008, john mccain looked at 350 million americans and he said, who is the most qualified person in this whole country to take over if something happened to me? he picked sarah palin. >> that's the last person mitt romney should turn to for advice. one person took himself out of the running yesterday. newt gingrich was on the state of the union with candy crowley. would you consider it? >> that's a whole different story. let's deal with the reality. would you be mitt romney's

number 2? >> i think he will look for somebody who is younger. >> younger thinner smarter. not insane. less of a bomb-thrower. >> planet earth. >> somebody who doesn't hang out in zoos. >> something who doesn't want to fight with a penguin. >> newt romney -- >> newtromney. i love it. >> not like michelle bachmann. newt gingrich said it is inconceivable that newtmitt romney would pick him as his vice presidential running mate. you know what? this time, newt is correct. by the way, we do have a president already elected and a new prime minister and boy, france and greece really rejected the austerity move that the eu led by angela merkel of germany have been pushing lately

in greece, they elected a neo nazi and in france. >> a socialist franceois olan and what he may bring to france. >> it may be that his notion of running the government which is really much like developing the government above the fray. will work better for these. >> he is talking about a side of leadership. the big difference is sarkozy was for aust air tin and fransoic is more concernskensyan. >> that's the direction he wants to take france in. and that's the direction president obama wants to take the united states in too. >> not that obama is a

socialist. >> that's not what i am say ing. i am saying i think they are on the same track when it comes to the economy. >> this is the bill press show. anna talked to a conservative and it got a little contentious. drama, when we return.

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♪♪ ♪ >> this is the bill press show. >> okay. in the next hour derrick thompson is the senior editor for the atlant i can. he will talk about apple and other multi-national corporations, american corporations, not paying their fair share of taxes. and we are going to be joined in studio by labor secretary hilda solis to talk about the april jobs numbers.

meanwhile, on the president's schedule today, at 10:00 o'clock this morning he will receive the daily briefing in the oval office followed at 11:00 o'clock by a meeting with his senior advisors and at 2:30 this aftering the president will hold a conference call with elected officials and student government leaders from all across the country about student loans and the fact that unless congress act, the loan rate on student loans will double by july 1st. jay carney will have his daily press briefing at 1:00 p.m. i will be there and you know that today, most of the questions will revolve around vice president biden yesterday saying he supports same-sex marriage and reporters, including this one will want to know, so why doesn't obama get on board? >> this is the bill press show. kiesh

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empty seats in a arena. guess ma. i was there. take it from me there were some empty seats, but there were 14,000 wildly en thighsiastic supporters, 11,000 more than mitt romney ever had at his largest coal. might want to make this election contest in crowd size? all i have got to say is: bring it on. this one the topics we can tackle but first, again, let's get the latest with current tv news update in los angeles, here is jacki schechner. hi, jacki. >> hi, bill. good morning, everyone. a new ad out this morning, for a change of pace, it's a positive one. it highlights things like foreign policy, the economy and the importance of the middle classes. >> some said our best days were behind us. >> he fought for us. >> the add features other

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website website. it's like kindergarten so comparative comparatively, i am like an old uncle. >> you and molly ball? >> that's right. to hear the term senior editor, you expect them to come in with a walker. >> i parked my walker this morning. >> dieyed his hair. >> i will not buy you beer. >> i am in trouble. >> i am sure you get carded everywhere you go. >>. >> for r-rated movies, yes. >> you saw the add syringers? >> i did the 3-d imax last night and it was awesome. >> is that the only place to see it? >> no. you can see it regular and just regular 3-d. let's for the forget cyprian

boulding proudly wearing his ohio state cap. >> the word we heard over and over again in this fight the whole scene of the campaign and the whole scene of the rallies on saturday both in columbus and richmond, ohio was forward. we have to keep moving forward or forward as my friends from the south sometimes say? >> we have come too far to abandon the change we fought for these past few years. virg we have to move fort worthed. >> how do they say it? >> foward. >> that's pretty good. >> as a resident southerner, that's pretty good. >> we will talk with derek about

jobs. and hilda solis will join us at the half hour but first, the full court press. >> the most important stuff this morning to know about at the water cooler, bill tom brochaw agreeing with your take on the white house correspondent dinner, the mete the press conversation he says he loves george clooney as much as the next idea but the event for a press corp is not the proper venue. brochaw says it has gone beyond what the event is meant to be. >> i would disagree with tom in that george cloonek is one who deserves to be there because he does a lot of good stuff. kim kardashian? give me a break. >> alex trubech may be ready to give up the reins. >> the game show host of 28

years saying he is thinking of retiring but he is torn because he loves what he does. he says in the past he does not want to host a show forever. he has other things on the horizon but his contract does go for another two years. >> as you mentioned a big blow-out, the avengers. >> people went twice. >> that big? >> the best weekend debut ever destroying last summer's record held by harry potter and deathly hallows that took in only $172 million. >> i read they might actually raise that 200.3. it might get bigger. yeah. the "new york times" reporting

the avengers easily on track to pass $1 billion. >> hard to believe the asers would beat out, anybody would eat out harry potter. do i have to see this movie? >> you would hate it. if i am being honest with you you would hate it. it has -- i mean, it has something for everybody. muscular dudes, curvy women in tight-fitting outfits, the heros, the fantasy. you have the super villain. it's a really, really good movie if you like that sort of thing. >> how did your 7-year-old son like it? >> he loved it. he loved it. yes take the 4-year-old. it would be too scary. >> good. i think i will pass. >> you have been writing a. this whole thing started with a couple of weekends ago in "the

new york times", a big story, big story about apple and the headlights how apple side stepped billions in taxes. okay? so that really caught my attention. now, i have an iphone and an ipad and i love them both and i can't believe -- i was at the apple story friday at pentagon city. nobody markets better than they do. i don't think anybody makes better products but it looks like they are cheat okay their taxes. i want to go back. you wrote this recent article. are apple's tax games bad for america? i was stunned by reading, here is how you describe it. take a dollar sold from an iphone in china. that dollar flies to an apple subsidiary in ireland, from there, it takes a roundtrip to the netherlands and back this time to a second irish subsidiary and then it crosses the atlantic to end in a tropical island in the caribbean where it will reside outside the

glare of u.s. tax law. they are cheat okay their taxes. aren't they? >> they are not cheating on their taxes, i think. from what i understand everything they are doing is legally. they are basically being extremely smart and saavy about utilizing this lab writtenth of tax law that exists because various countries, to strakaed foreign capital. what apple is doing, $40,000,000,000 in the first two months of this year, 40 billion in revenue, 12 billion in earnings income. that will buy you some pretty good tax can ants. tax accountants who know what other very rich companies have to spend like ge, micro soft this globe trot of money, a lot use what they calm the dutch sandwich they fly to the netherlands and back to a subsidiary in ireland so they

can put their money in bermuda where it's tax-free. >> when you hear these average americans who are struggling to make enough money to pay bills at the ends of the month and then they have to pay their taxes and they have to go through it, maybe they could erred to hire somebody you know, these online tools or something like that and they write a check and then allel has so much money flying these dollars around the world to ireland to the negativetherlands and over to the caribbean? wait a minute. there are games going on here that i can't play. right? >> they are games. they are going on. nobody is saying they are illegal games. >> our tax law allows this. right? provides the opportunity for them to play these games is what you are saying? >> not our tax law so much and the international tax system. this way, they need $40,000,000,000 in revenue in the first 4 of this year, 12 billion in income.

66% of that came from outside the americas. two out of every $3 came from outside of the americas. because of that, apple is an international company using international tax law to avoid not evade but avoid u.s. taxes. the u.s. has the highest marginal rate in the world. there is all sorts of reasons that the companies that have means want to avoid u.s. taxes. the question to ask here and you brought it up, the personal message of u.s. tax code, you know, federal income tax laws and taxes, when somebody breaks the law there, the irs can crack down on them. apple isn't breaking the law. the question is: is there something that we can do to make them pay more money the same way mitt romney is only paying 14%. you say, look let's that has to do with the carried interest. for apple, we don't necessarily

have that option. because no matter what we do they can keep all of this money intrard. i think even as i want tax revenue in the united states to go up. they will place their -- the place to focus is the u.s. income tax code, not on corporate income taxes. because these are international, multiple i national companies. >> as you point out without these games that they were playing, they would have paid as much as $6,000,000,000 in federal taxes where they paid just a little over 3 billion. they paid an effective tax rate i guess you are talking about this 2011. right? >> right. >> an effective tax rate of nine %. they out romneyed romney. >> they did. they did. and they are richer than romney alleged your multi-national. romney uses tax havens in bermuda guhe doesn't have the option to keep all of this overseas to invest it overseas

because think of it this way. asia accounts for more or less the same share of apple's revenue and income as the united states, all of asia. that income pool is drawing at twice to three times the rate of the united states. if you had think of apple as being a phone company, i think that's correct, they make most of their money from phones. they are an asian phone company and they are going to make most of their money geographically in asia. so to think of a company that makes most of it's money in asia as being exclusive to tax law, i don't think that makes senses. i think we should be realistic about the amount of money we can expect to ex tram from apple's income pool. >> you point out apple is not the only one? these stories of exxonmobil pay very low rate or zero tax. a lot of corporations, have a low rate or zero taxes and the republicans want to say -- they want to lower the corporate tax rate even lower.

right? so are you saying that there is just no way that we are because of the nature of the global economy today that american corporations arer going to pay their fair share of taxes? >> you know i think i agree. >> or anything close to the going rate? >> i think that i agree with end goal you willhave, to raise revenue, to have more tax revenue for the u.s. government so we can afford the services. >> my goal is the highest tax rate is 25 for corporations? >> 35. >> 35. >> okay. i like to see somebody paying close to what they are supposed to pay of the. >> right. >> the problem we have. >> american companies. what's wrong with that? >> the problem we have is there are companies all around the world that offer corporate income taxes. around 11% and in bermud bur /* bermuda. it's the same way states in the u.s. say, hey, toyota factory if

you come here, i will give you x hundred million dollar. it's the same on a global level. different countries offering different tax incentives for companies to put their money there. bermuda's financial services ex ports are bigger than tourism: these gains can pay off. my bottom line is i agree we should raise more money but i think to do it we should focus on people, not on corporation. corporation aren't people to unquote mitt romney in that situation. i think we should say, you know what? i am okay with putting the marginal important income tax rate close to 25%. but at the same time, let's raise taxes on rich people here because it doesn't make any sense we get all of these programs we think are important, working that people like that we can't afford because millionaires think they should be taxed the lowest rate in the last four years. >> derek thompson i want to get

your take on the latest job numbers before the labor secretary comes in. apple getting away with it and 9% effective tax rate corporate tax rate. >> that's what they are paying. derek thompson says there is not much we can do about it 86655 press join the conversation on this monday morning. >> heard around the country and seen on current tv this is the bill press show. ♪ that's the focus. we want to focus on solutions and ways of bringing people together. collective action is the only way we're going to solve the world's great vexing problems. search engine for solutions and that's the focus. we want to focus on solutions and ways of bringing people together. collective action is the only way we're going to solve the world's great vexing problems.

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>> labor direct offer, hilda solis in studio with us in the next -- for the next half hour. derrick thompson joining us right now, the senior editor for the atlantic. talking apple, jobs. before we get back to some calls here, derrick, i want to ask you. we know the april jobs report came out friday morning, which we are going to talk about hilda solis about and the unemployment taking down to 8.1%. good news or bad news. >> somewhere in the middle. 102,000 jobs is barely enough to make up for population growth. if we grew every month for the next 20 years it would take sometime until the 2030s to make up the gap created by the recession. >> that's a long time from now. >> that's not good news. there is good news in there, you know, long-term unemployment is falling. we are, if you look at the four

months average of job creation, it's not 115. it's closer to 200,000. >> that's pretty healthy. 6 months ago, a year ago no one would agree that would be the case in april 2012. there is good news there. the pace of job creation isn't satisfactory. >> good news but not good enough. >> exactly. >> we should be over 200,000 every month, ideally >> absolutely. >> let's say hello to charles. charles calling from lancaster pennsylvania. thank you for joining us thank you very much i am calling from lancaster, california. >> i'm sorry. >> the problem with this young man and with all of the news media times, allowing international companies to blend their money together. apple, we don't care about what they are doing in the world. we care about what they are doing in america. we need to separate what they sold in america and prepare and see if they are passing on the

products they are selling here because the company -- . >> okay. i got it, charles. in the interest of time, requestwe do that in charles is saying separate out and making sure they are paying full freight on america the left, right, and middle to what's called the territory corporate tax system. that means we tax income made in the u.s. territory. we don't care what they make overseas. >> that's right. >> that's an approach but there are all sorts of reasons there are ways for. >> at least if we were out of time here, i think it's a pretty good approach. at least we could be satisfied they are paying on what they saw here derek thompson good of you to come in studio. i will have to get your back here derek thompson. we will be back with secretary hilda solis. >> this is the bill press show.

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♪ >> on your radio, and on current tv, this is the bill press show. >> it is the radio t.v. special here called the full court press. you can catch us either way, and good to have you with us. it's 33 minutes after the hour on this monday may 7th, if you will court press brought to you today by the international machinists. tom bufenbarger sharpening america's edge on the global economy. for more information about their good work check out their webseat at goiam.org. the april jobs report is out.

what has become a regular feature here of the full-court press, we are proud to welcome back to the studio president obama and our secretary of labor, hilda solis, madam secretary. good to see you again. >> good morning. >> we reported right at 8:30 friday morning, found out about it probably just a minute or so after you did, the jobs report for april, 115,000 new jobs created and the unemployment rate ticking down from 8.2 to 8.11%. despiting? fair? good news? what's your take? >> stead. >> stead. >> steady because it's adding jobs, bill. if you look at what they did for the prior month, they found another 34 jobs and over that 2-month period where the numbers came in lower, we are over 50,000 added in that two-month period. so overall, we are still adding jobs, and, you know, it isn't

all that scientific as people think. so there are, you know, issues we have to revise numbers but i tell you in the longrun over the last, you know four months on area on average 207,000 jobs added in four months. so when people say, oh, it's not good enough, remember when they said 125 was where we should? now, we are getting better. and for some reason, that isn't good enough. all i could say is numbers don't lie. you know that better than i do. 4.2 million private sector jobs. halfway there. we have more to do. >> that's why we are pushing forward. >> 4.2 million in the last three and a half years. >> last three and a half years. the president is for -- well we lost 8 million jobs. >> right. absolutely before we came in we lost 4 million and in that month that we actually got the recovery act going which takes awhile to move through the process we had already lost 8

million. so i think this is one of the fastest recovers the last recession, that's what my sxhiftsz tell immediately. >> wouldn't you admit that we have four months, if i recall, of over 200,000? >> yes. >> we were hoping it would continue over 200,000? >> we are always going to hope for that. why not? yes, we need to do more but we have contraction occurring, allotted of people looking for work. we have three million jobs out there. we are trying to make sure we have the good match, that pill have skill ready for those jobs that these manufactures empty. >> unemployment down for 8.1%. >> yeah. >> some said they interpreted that because there are so many people who have given be up not even trying to get a job any more, sonals it was kicked down. it still leaves 13 million americans without a job.

>> i think what people need to know is that when we look at these numbers, we are also looking at obviously the census figures and our population, you know, continues to grow in different directions. we have a lot of baby boomers that are leaving earlier. a lot are staying in school longer, going to college. don't went to have a better educated group? if baby boomers are choosing to retire or go into something else action those are things that happen. wet let people know we have services available, they are free, we want people to go online. dol dol.gov if it's a young person or older person my skillsmyfuture.org. free material on where to land a job. >> you mentioned young people. here one of the biggest sectors

hardest hit i just heard this morning in a story from u.s. u.s.a. today, among the major worker groups, teenagers have the highest unemployment rate. >> that's true. >> we are coming into the summer season where they are going to be out there. >> that's why the president is saying we can't wait. we have developed the summer jobs initiative where young people with go online, dol dol/summer jobs. you can find out where the jobs are available. the president has asked the private sector to step up. there is nofal there is no federal money in this because the congress didn't want to put any money in as they did when we took over. it's about putting people to, would, young people, but giving them mentorship interpretationships as well. i would say about half of those are going to be paid. >> what do you think that the congress audit to be doing to --

a lot. a lot. >> look, this should not be a part partisan issue. >> come on. how many congress people have interns in their office and even in the capitol? >> you understand that the republicans don't want the jobs numbers to get better because they want to use that as an issue. i think most americans, it's good for this country, the more people that are working. >> good for our future. it's good for these young people. >> what areas should congress be focusing on? >> what you shouldn't do is cut back on these programs. job training programs very essential. i think that members of the other side of the aisle want to cut back on those proposals. there are proposals right now that they are talking being in the congress. we are saying now is not the time because we are fluid. as you just said and we are arguing here back and forth about numbers because we need to make sure that people have a

good, stable work force that they need a base, a good training background. >> where are the sectors? >> healthcare. i would earn courage young people and folks changing jobs because maybe their job left get into health care. that continues to be kind of a recession-proof industry and believe it or not. for all of the criticism the president gets about mining and refineries, that's what job growth has been, more people get into that, manufacturing, people still need welders, carpetenters, apresentis ship programs, go online and look up apprenticeship programs we have around the country. i would say the other thing is, we have got to get engineering back. don't be afraid to venture in those areas. get better if you know how to operate a computer. listen as much as you can. get into science, math technology and engineering. >> what about construction.

>> construction is still an important factor because i know sooner or later, it will come back. the construction industry. we are talking about how could i say reforming how we build our homes, making them more energy e efficient and putting in new tools so people could lower their energy costs. right? >> right. this is the summertime when all of these infrastructure projects. >> right. >> highways and bridges need to get done. >> the congress needs to pass that transportation bill. who knows? millions of people back to work. and not just in construction but theations i will area, the hotel, restaurants, coffee shops, the dry cleaner everything will come up around those particular developments. >> secretary of labor, hilda solis in studio with us on this monday may 7th, talking about the jobs report and jobs in general and what we can do to stimulate new jobs in this country, what the congress ought to be doing, 866-55-press. you want a seat at the table

866-55-7377. madam secretary, it looks like income peter, if we can just play that clip from governor romney, we know he is going to be the nominee. president obama actually referenced him by name as saturday. as i mentioned before we started, i was out in columbus and in richmond with the president, traveling with the press core on the charter plane friday and the president talked about jobs as we are moving in the right direction, we have to keep going forward, giving a positive spin on it. here is what romney did the opposite. >> he believes that would be cause for celebration. anything over 8%, anything near 8%, anything over 4% is not cause for celebration. >> no. mitt romney saying 4%. he elect me as president. >> i can't his record and our record can be scrutnized and know that. let's take -- make sure we take a good look at what kind of jobs

he created in massachusetts and my understanding is that a lot of those jobs were outsourced. this president wants to bring those jobs back home. >> i think the number in massachusetts, 47 out of 50 states when he was governor in terms of job creation. we have a lot of people who want in the conversation madam something secretary. we will take some calls when we come back. in studio with us as we say, you don't often get a chance to throw questions to a member of the president's capbinet. now is your chance at 866-55-press. the full court press. we will be right back. >> on your radio current tv this is the bill press show. search engine for solutions and that's the focus. we want to focus on solutions and ways of bringing people

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>> >> >> this is the bill press show live on your radio and current tv. >> hey, good to have you with us this monday, may 7th. 13 minutes before the stoptop of the hour, good to have in studio with us secretary of labor hilda solis, madam secretary, so it's by my count, i am going to be sure i am right, 115, or that's what it is but it's 26 straight months of positive job growth. right? >> employee. 4.2 million jobs. >> when president obama took over, job loss? >> eight million. >> first month? >> 750,000. >> yeah. >> and you can go back to the prior administration for every month on an average under the previous administration was about 11,000 jobs per month. >> created? >> created per month in eight

years of the previous administration. >> all right. so maybe 115, a hell of a lot better than 11,000, larry calling from maryland, what do you say, larry? good morning. thank you for having the secretary of labor on. >> glad she is there. >> i would like to know what the obama administration intends to do about the large number of people dropping out of the labor force. i am more concerned with the 300,000 -- over 300,000 people who reported to have dropped out than i am about the relatively small number of 115 jobs that were provided. >> okay. larry? take your answer on the air. >> thank you. >> good question larry. what we are doing is revamping some of our workforce investment programs one of which deals with ui, unemployment insurance, and what we are doing is reformating that so people come into the office and meet someone.

typically you could go online and talk to someone or e-mail but now, we want you to come in and talk to a real person, get job coaching resume writing the diagnostic testing whatever it is that's needed to keep you engaged. >> that's really a gauge-changer i think for these programs and using that ui money to allow for businesses to bring people on and to help subsidize a portion of that more maybe a sixmo period and it may be an employer will say i want to keep them and they go off and get on their payroll but there are new mechanisms that the president is pushing forward that are going to help people, i think, get into the work force a lot quicker. >> that's for those who have been out more than six months. >> what do you know about? these are people what have you discovered? who just give up? is that it. >> some do. >> look for so long they have been out of work for so long? >> it's a different -- how could i say different factors at work

also, because we are looking at young people staying in school longer. they are not going into the work force, getting more education by attending college and baby boomers that are leaving the work force so but i would say to larry we have to be mindful of those people who need the help to get back in. what i would say to everyone listening, we have to keep you engaged. >> or watching. >> you have been to be engaged in the labor marked. >> randy hi welcome. >> secretary, good morning. i want to make two quick points. >> okay. i read the jobs act if the it had passed the unemployment rate would have been on target to drop to 5.1 or 5.6 by close to year end. my second point is this, i can't believe we are not having this conversation where there were 15

members congressional leaders got together on inauguration night plot to go bring down the america and the president. we are not talking about this? i have no idea why that is not considered some form of treason? >> let me just say larry larry -- randy, i'm sorry, you are right about the fact that they started and, in fact in this book, the obama camp. i think it's the obama hate manny, i talk about on day one, they were having a meeting saying how are we going to bring this president down? mitch mcconnell said our number one goal for the next four years is to prevent president obama from getting a second term. no doubt, that was their goal from the very beginning, but madam secretary, on his point about if the jobs bill had

passed, those construction workers would be at work. public employees would be back on the job. if the highway bill had passed, right? all of those projects would be underways today. so i am not sure it would have been five, down to 5% but it would have been. >> kicked down obviously. >> a million or so people easily. right? >> right. % we continue to say that to the american public. >> that's why it's important. don't let up. contact your members of congress. they are leaving town today or tomorrow. you need to let them know. this is an urgent matter. we have to get people back to work. it indifferent matter which party you are from. it's about our economy. >> jobs, jobs jobs. is that the number 1 prior to for the labor garment? >> that and hiring young people for summer jobs especially if you are an owner of a business

or. if you would bring on to young people. unemployment rate so high with teenagers between 16 to 24, do the right thing, be patriotic. higher up a young person. >> tell us where young people can find the opportunity? deal dol.com. >> we will pull a link up here our website for that. mat madam secretary, we look forward to talking to you next month and hope now that congress is back. >> get to work. >> maybe they will recognize the priority and help americans get back to work by passing good parts of the jobs act particularly that transportation bill. we talked to secretary ray lahood about it. >> i will be back with a big parting shot about crowd size. >> this is the bill press show.

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♪ >> the parting shot request bill press, this is the bill press show. >> hey, you know, on this monday may 7th, my parting shot for today, sometimes, you have to feel sorry for president obama. he can't win for losing. i mean, take saturday he goes out to columbus ohio for his first official campaign event of the 2010 campaign, speaking before a loud and very lively crowd of 14,000 and with the headline on the drudge report. the headline on the drudge report and other right-wing sites is that there an enthusiasm gap there because 14,000 people might have been there, but 4,000 seats were

empty. what total non-ses? yeah 4,000 seats must have been empty. there were 14,000 wildly enthusiastic supporters and those empty seats were in the nose-bleed section where nobody not wad to sit anyway. there were a thousand people on the floor of the arena nobody reported. let me tell you, those crowds were also wildly enthusiastic or as president obama might say, they are fired up and ready to go. just one more case of the media searching for the only negative part of the day that they could focus on, and by the way, 14 ,000, that's 11,000 more than mitt romney ever had as his wildest moment and his biggest crowd in the campaign. so if republicans want to make this campaign a contest in crowd size, bring it on. have a great one. see you back here on radio and t.v. again here tomorrow. >> this is the bill press show.