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friends, and their parents, and it wouldn't dawn on them that somehow their friend's parents would be treated differently. it doesn't make sense to them. and frankly that's the kind of thing that prompts the change in perspective. >> uh-huh. >> the tolerance. >> children of the future. right? 6 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2. stephaniemiller.com the website. very historic day because there's new sexy liberal swag. check it out. it's a new one -- they are new cute fitted girl shirts. and the parties in minneapolis this saturday tickets are almost gone. all right, jim who said today

is a proud day for all americans, and central to the political ideas. president obama's words remind that marriage equality is for all. >> pat roberts? >> oh my god, that was the worst guess ever. [ buzzer sounds ] >> no, ted olson. [ applause ] >> who said president obama's words today will be celebrated by generations to come. the president's word provide genuine hope that they will be the first generation to grow up to truly pursue the american dream. our constitution's promise, the promise of liberty is one that every generation must realize, and president obama realized this is the defining element of our generation's search for greater freedom. >> wilson and johnson. >> no chad griffin. by the way, chad, i don't have

your new email, call me. >> look at you getting in with all of the power gays. >> right? >> are they battery powered. >> i'm princess of power gays. >> are they sustainable? >> they are sustainable gays. >> so they are the gay avengers that you are assembling. >> that's right. hi, brian. >> i'm an african american man and i don't subscribe to the idea that african american's not supporting him. yesterday in north carolina that was kicking people who don't equal rights in this country. yesterday obama lifted everybody up. he lifted the gay community up. he basically said i'm going to

go to the wall for you guys. a as democrat, and i'm speaking to all democrats out there, all of you guys you need to go to the wall for obama this year. >> yeah. >> for him -- >> double down. >> for him to come out this close to the election, he is basically telling us that he's putting his election on the line for this -- >> yeah, he said -- >> -- the for what should be our belief. >> yeah. he said it may hurt me. >> yes. >> but that's why, as i quoted american president to start the show, he said something about this job is partially about character, and he said i can tell you this job is entirely about character. >> that's right. for me and my girlfriend this only strengths our resolve to get out and canvas for him, and

give when we can. after he came out, it affirmed by belief in the fact that he -- he can still change this country the way we want it to be. >> yeah. finally, brian, it completes the promise of that first speech he gave, that we have some gay friends in the red states. >> that's right. >> it still sends shivers up any spine. hi lisa, you are on the "stephanie miller show." >> good morning. starting my day with chris lavoie is the most wonderful experience. [ romantic music ] >> and i wish he would stretch in his chair more often. >> oh, my god. >> seriously, though. earlier this morning, i was watching one of those other news programs, and one of their guests actually said biden's interview was taped on friday and was not aired until sunday, so i have to wonder if

chris is right, and that maybe they had a little bit more time to sort of see how things developed before obama made his announcement yesterday. >> i don't know, lisa. that's not what i have heard. it seems like through all channels they are saying he decided this months ago and was going to make it known before the convention. joe biden tends to be a little bit -- what is the word -- improvisational. and i think after the north carolina vote you cannot deny this took political courage. >> oh, absolutely. absolutely. >> and for everybody that is saying that joe biden is mouthy he is also a very skilled politician. >> yeah. >> so i have to -- >> i like to talk off the cuff -- i don't even wear cuffs anymore. no point. >> obama said i hesitated in

part because i thought civil unions would be sufficient. >> i'm gay and that's what i used to think. there was an era where you thought this will never be possible. but the separate and equal argument started to resinate with people. i was sensitive that the word marriage is a very powerful word. a leading gay activist said obama have help build a national con census. this gallup poll is only 50% for, 48 against on gay marriage -- >> but it just shows the difference between him and romney. matter of character doing something that is right. >> yeah. >> and romney can't that isn't just -- whatever the short-end game for the moment

is. >> yeah he was more interested yesterday in -- i'm -- i'm not a flip flopper -- >> when these issues were raised in my state of massachusetts i did not favor marriage between people of the same gender. my view is domestic partnership benefits, hospital visitation rights and the like are appropriate, but the others are not. >> i -- i -- >> thanks for your support. >> yeah. literally he wants to etch-a-sketch that he said i'm going to be more pro gay rights than ted kennedy. >> that wasn't me. >> republicans like to say they are all about freedom, and i dare say obama is more for freedom. >> independent strongly in favor of gay marriage.

but the people -- different people pointing out different things. pennsylvania, conservative-leading independent states like iowa and nevada could be put off by this. ralph reid said this is unanticipated gift to the romney campaign. it is certainly to fuel a record turnout of voters of faith to the polls. >> there are voters of faith who don't believe in mitt romney's faith either. >> yeah, it will be interesting. this is going to activate the base on both parts. there could be really record turnout on this -- in fact the president pointing the generational aspects. >> when i go to college campuses i sometimes talk to republicans that think i have terrible on foreign or the economy, but

are very clear when it comes to same-sex equality -- or sexual orientation, that they believe in equality. they are much more comfortable with it. >> yeah. that's the other thing. it may activate -- people are saying young people won't come out in the same numbers as last time. now we're see. >> also have i breaking news for you -- [ nbc "nightly news" theme ] >> rob reiner next hour. >> oh. okay. >> i'm multi-tasking here. >> did you get that courtney. get -- >> yeah, at current tv, they are business illy changing the chi ron -- shall we right now -- file photo. [ screaming ] [ laughter ] >> oh, olar in maryland. you are on the "stephanie miller show." >> hi, stephanie. i love stephanie and crew.

>> thank you. >> i'm so excited because i'm dyslexia, and i like the president when he spoke out, because he spoke out for not only just people getting married, because that's a right. i don't think that have anything to do with the religion first and foremost and a lot of me and my friends we share different -- i'm an independent and some of them are democrats black republicans or whatever they want to be but to me i think people have the right to do what they want to do, and for the republicans to try to speak for the middle-aged blacks i'm 53, and i really don't care about who marry who. >> right. >> black people think about what is important in their life, not who people marry, and i love your show, and i don't watch no

other stations -- >> oh, thank you. thank you. >> you olar. >> did she mean dyslexic? i'm not sure. >> i knew what she meant. >> maybe she did mean that. in that case maybe it doesn't what courtney puts up on the tv. >> she is lisdexic. >> yeah. all right, 17 minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> hey, i like it. i like it a lot. >> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show." >> and we're still hot on the mic. >> yay! yay! >> okay. what number -- >> i'm not going to tell you why we're still hot on the mic. >> we're still hot on the mic. that's why i tell you these things. so you don't give out phone numbers and stuff -- >> should i say 8:30? >> 8:30 good.

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electorate bump. all right. the president yesterday. >> in the end the values they care most deeply about, and she cares most deeply about is how we treat other people, and we are both practicing christians, and obviously this position may be considered to put us at odds with the views of others but when we think about our faith, the thing at root that we think about is not only christ sacrificing himself on our behalf, but it's also the golden rule. treat others the way you want to be treated. >> wow. [ dramatic music ] >> yes, he did. the only way he could go one more step further is let michelle obama gay marry me when i meet her next month in l.a. >> that would be hot. >> right? >> the president is going to be here. >> i know at george clooney's

house. >> oh my god! >> maybe i should see if they can take that restraining order off because i did >> >> hop his for instance. >> i know where his house is. yeah i climbed his fence to try to get a better look at him and his friends playing basketball shirtless. >> there might be a little more secret service now. >> yeah. >> considering my past history with george, i won't go hiking. >> you are not going hiking. let me say it again. >> i was shop last night. that's -- they were really good shots. they just grazed me. just pushed me back a little bit. [ laughter ] >> hey tony, you are on the "stephanie miller show." >> hey stephanie. what is going on? i'm proud to be an american

today. >> yep. >> and i'm so proud of president obama. you know -- you know before i went to church with president obama and our denomination which is a black church in chicago, 10,000 members, and we passed equal marriage -- equality thing in the church in 2005. >> right. >> okay. so all of this stuff of divide and concur to try to save black people or black churches or black whatever don't support this is wrong. it's just another tactic to keep people separated. so 10,000 members we got your back. >> you have always been my girl tony. >> you know it girl. and i got to get on chris a little bit this morning. >> what did i do? >> okay. even if they did throw the -- you know put -- put biden out there to test the waters -- >> right.

>> -- i don't think that's true because we already know everybody that would not vote for him are still not going to vote for him for the same reason. >> that's true. >> and even if it is why look a gift horse in the mouth. you know it got done. all of these people that are complaining and whining, what is the end result. >> yeah. i was just wondering if it was. >> you are still a nay sayer. rob reiner next, i think on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ it's go time. >>every weeknight cenk uygur calls out the mainstream media. >>the guys in the middle class the guys in the lower end got screwed again. >>i think you know which one we're talking about. the overwhelming majority of the country says"tax the rich,

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president, and in the absence of leadership they will listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone. they are crawl through the desert and when they find it out is a mirage they will drink the sand. >> now we have rob reiner on the phone. good morning. >> stephanie, how are you today? >> gayer than ever. my blog yesterday, i started with this job is entirely about character. >> it really is. he took a position that is -- we don't know how it will play out politically, hopefully it won't hurt him because we need people like this who stand up for what our founding fathers intended which is everyone in this

country should be equal. >> rob, you were in studio with us not too long ago, and we talked about this that i have to say -- just yesterday this makes us nervous if it gives us a president romney which will take us back as you know unbelievably in the battle for gay rights. >> i'm hoping -- i know obama only carried north carolina by 14,000 votes the last time and this will certainly not help him in certain circles, but we want to believe that the people who are against gay marriage are not going to vote for him anyway. now the question is are they single-issue voters that will be energized enough to come out when they might not have come out ordinarily. but we also hope we're energizing young people and people under 40 are wildly in favor of marriage equality and basically equal rights for

everyone. so hopefully we can energize some of those people to come out and net out even on this. >> rob this is what leadership is, though. how do you -- as obviously one of our greatest straight allies how do you think this will affect the debate? because this is a sitting president of the united states of america. >> right. and by the way the first black president of america. i mean it's historic in so many ways, but i think it will play out good if we can frame it beyond just marriage equality because this is really about civil rights. this is really about whether or not we view people in this country as lesser? we have only one group of people in america that are viewed as second class citizens under the law, and that is the gay lesbian community. so this has to be now -- talked about in a grander scheme, which

is this is the last piece of the civil rights puzzle being put into place. we are now -- if we now view everyone in america as equal, we are -- we are realizing the dreams of -- of what our founding fathers meant. >> rob, you know, if my polling has any indication meaning the people that called the show in the last hour and a half blacks whites independents. they have all said the same thing. this is courage. and i think -- particularly when your opponent is mitt romney when you show true courage, which is so rare in politics, and you show true principal that's the other thing that contrasts well. >> it does. and i can say in general that the democratic party has always been a party of inclusivity. when it comes to the civil rights acts and policies for women, these things i think are going to start cutting against

romney and showing that he is -- you know is -- they are for making sure people don't get to the polls to vote. they are for cutting off health care for women. they are for basically trying to keep this country for rich white people and i think that it does show great courage on obama's part, but ultimately this is what we want in leaders, to do the right thing, and he has done the right thing. >> look at each and every issue, your lovely and talented wife michelle i know is with my future husband your son, jake reiner -- >> you are going the other way? is that the other bit of breaking news? [ nbc "nightly news" theme ] >> just when obama going in favor of gay marriage you are going to go the other way? >> jake makes me oozy in the knees. >> oh, okay. >> this is already going to i

think energize the youth vote, don't you? >> i do. i do. this is just a matter of time we have said this many many times, but there was a time in this country when women couldn't vote, when blacks couldn't marry whites or blacks couldn't vote we're going to look back and say you mean there was a time when a group of people were thought of as second-class citizens? and people are going to realize this is not going to hurt society. it's not like -- it's like jon stewart said, does this mean i have to marry a gay person? it doesn't mean that. you can do whatever you want. you can -- you know whatever religious believes you have are not going to be effected by the. it just means that we'll all be equal under the law. >> romney things marriage should

be between a man and his eight sister wives. [ buzzer sounds ] >> oh there you go jim. the. shows it close in terms of marriage equality. republicans oppose it by a bigger margin than 2-1. let's resign this party to the dust bin of history. >> well -- >> it's time for them to go the way of the wigs. >> there are prominent. s on our side. >> yeah. >> laura bush. people are on our side on this thing. what about all of the gay members of -- you know congress, and state houses across the country who are republicans? don't they want to be thought of as equal under the law? these are lawmakers.

>> rob, i think the key in this gallup poll is independents are for gay marriage 57% to 40. >> that helps us because we're basically fighting over those independents in seven to 12 key battleground states but i think we have to broaden this issue to not just be about gay marriage. it has to be about equal rights under the law for everyone. if you can frame it that way -- i don't think romney is going to be wanting to talk about these things on the campaign trail. >> the conversation we always have how provably far to the right this party has gone he has signed a pledge to enact a constitutional federal amendment banning gay marriage. >> i know. they have dragged this -- the party has gone so far to the right, and unfortunately they have dragged us as democrats

further to the right than we would like to be. but this is a funny country. we have a way of correcting things as we go along, you know? and this is a wonderful thing that he has come out to say. >> and the president, as he said was evolving but i think -- i was reading a quote from audacity of hope and he said then, i -- i probably need to be open to the fact that i might be wrong on this. >> yes, i know. and it does take time for a lot of people. it's -- you know these are entrenched ideas. that's why we did this play eight that was written by lance black which was based on the trial -- the federal trial we had against proposition eight. because we wanted people to get inside that courtroom and see what was going on. and when you put it to a legal test, the other side literally -- i'm not exaggerating, you can look at it

on youtube. they have no witnesses. they have no evidence. there are no facts on their side and when you get educated you start to realize a lot of these old prejudices, they just melt away. >> yeah. speaking of which now that you brought it up can you get me into george clooney's house to see the president? >> do you have $40,000? >> not on me but i'll bring him a sexy liberal t-shirt. i know friends i could borrow it from, rob. >> i'm going. i'm not going to pay for you and me. >> come on your wife is in syracuse. i'll be your beard. >> he already has a beard. >> i'll have two beards. >> we have billy from texas and he said it dilutes his marriage.

[ laughter ] >> like it's watering it down. >> what does it do all of a sudden his wife is not going to sleep with him now? i don't understand. >> yeah that's what i mean. there -- their arguments were almost like comedy. >> i know and it's funny because one of the reasons that president obama gave for why he came out the way he did, was that his daughters, you know, go to school and there are single-sex parents of some of their friends, and they realize these are loving people that are committed. they -- you know they are bringing up their children the children are wonderful happy kids. >> yeah. >> and that's by the way one of the things we talked about in eight, and that is, you know committed gay couples make just as happy if not happier children -- >> yeah. >> -- because they really want these children. >> i have evolved on this.

i had one relationship that we called each other wives. and i never thought this would happen. and i cried that kids would see this and know i can grow up the way i want to and serve my country, it's just amazing. >> yes, and when you see the rate of suicide of teenagers because they feel they are being rejected by the rest of society, it is just unconscionable. >> epidemic intolerance. >> and it's because of people like rob reiner. [ bell chimes ] [ applause ] >> i didn't call in to get that kind of beautiful thing that you just said. >> oh. the way to say you really love me back is take me to the

$40,000 dinner. >> oh! >> i'm mr. mom this week, because michelle is in new york so i have to make my daughter to school. >> oh, whatever with your family values. okay. bye-bye. >> he makes me cry. >> you don't understand how much time energy and money that he and his wife have put into this thing. and his son is so cute -- i don't know what is up with the this morning. i'm a little cattywompus. we'll be right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> that doesn't so bad, was it? >> i got to say that was fantastic. >> announcer: it's the >>(narrator) gavin newsom, lieutenant governor of california, and former mayor of san francisco is coming to current tv. >>every night on cable news

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reinforced that they are worthy of love just like anyone else. >> gary [ inaudible ]. >> no, cindy lopper. >> oh, that was a clue. >> yeah. the true colors foundation. because mr. president, your true colors shine through. and we applaud you. [ applause ] ♪ >> okay. i'm fine nobody help me. >> are you okay? >> yeah. >> we should get cindy lopper on the show. >> yeah, we should. she is a little busy today on capitol hill. >> oh sure. >> and here is mitt romney. >> states are able to make decisions with regards to domestic partnerships such as hospital visitation rights benefits and so forth can be determined state by state, by my view is marriage itself is a relationship between a man and a women.

i know/other people have differing views -- >> like my grandfather. >> -- but i have the same view i have had -- >> for the last five minutes. >> yes exactly since back when i said i'm going to be more pro gay rights than ted kennedy. >> wow. >> yeah. okay. so i thought the president just said a lot of stuff yesterday that was really -- he talked about his daughters -- he made this so personal. he talked about his daughters. he said it is important for me personally to affirm that same-sex couples should be able to get married. >> he is forcing people to get gay married. just like he is forcing us to use those light bulbs. >> that light bulb legislation that george bush signed?

>> we will force you to eat gay light bulbs now. >> that's right. >> senior firms said obama came to this decision earlier this year. they conceded that biden's comments accelerated the time line. >> that's a big-f-ing deal. what did i do? >> hey, baby. >> this goes right back to lyndon johnson. >> yes. >> he said i may be losing the south forever, but this is what i have to do. >> yeah. >> when he signed the civil rights act. >> exactly. just so many of the things resinated that he said. he thought of the solders that were fighting on my behalf but yet feel constrained now that

don't ask, don't tell is gone. even people serving our country don't get the same rights that married people do. let's go to sarah in madison. hi sarah. >> hi, stephanie. >> hello. >> all the president did was offer his opinion. mitt certainly has an opinion. it's not like he is changing policy on anything yesterday. >> yeah. well what are you talking about -- >> oh i'm sorry -- >> yes, chris you said that earlier -- i'm like well the president doesn't have the power to say effect the supreme court's decision but he could effect the debate. that's why i was asking rob reiner about that. that is what true leadership is. it's incredible. the head of the national organization for marriage. she said politically we welcome this. we think it is a huge mistake.

president obama is choosing the money over the voters. >> so north carolina can hold the entire country hostage. >> yeah. >> for sure. >> laura ingram just tweeted she is looking for callers who are black or muslim who are against this policy. >> suddenly they like black muslins. >> lies driving a wedge, laura. who is going to pull your hair now. >> the "stephanie miller show" would like to apologize for the reference that laura ingram likes her hair pulled during sex. but she probably does. hi, queen bee. >> hi y'all. i am one more supporter of gay rights and our president. the polls show that older voters favor the republicans.

these voter suppression laws is that not then going to hurt the republicans. >> wouldn't that be something if their voter suppression backfired on them. ♪ na na na na na ♪ >> thank you. dan in kansas real quick. hey, dan. >> hi steph. >> hi go ahead. real quick. >> yeah i just wanted to say i grew up in north carolina in the 50s and 60s, i'm a 58 year old truck drive and been a teamster for 37 years, and what obama did was fantastic. and i think he'll be rewarded for standing up for his convictions. >> i hope so. >> dan what is the matter with kansas? nothing by friend because you are in it. >> that's right. [ applause ] >> judy tenuta up next. >> tenuda?

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