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really matter, and those two reflect the two sides of the gop. in the lead is lieutenant governor david dewhurst but right behind him is ted cruz, the tea party man backed by club for growth, south carolina senator, and the unavoidable sarah palin. the chasm between the conservative and the really conservative has grown worse. >> the dallas morning news says does hurst has served as a moderate republican. >> the houston chronicle says dewhurst is generally considered a moderate. >> a moderate at heart says the texas observer. >> that's right. now it's an insult to come somebody moderate as in reasonable or balanced. what does the tea party want? apparently the opposite of that. the opposite

>>(narrator) gavin newsom, lieutenant governor of california, and former mayor of san francisco is on current tv. >>every night on cable news networks everyone's focusing on what's wrong. i want this show to move past that. i love creative people, and with all the vexing problems we have we need creative thinking. >>(narrator) with interviews with notables from silicon valley, hollywood, and beyond. >>at the end of the day this show's simple. it's about ideas. ideas are the best politics. ideas can bring us together. >>(narrator) the gavin newsom show. friday at 11 eastern/8 pacific. only on current tv. there's a reason that the ceos of airlines don't sit on the national transportation safety board. so why is the big banks ceo sitting on the board of the fed. simon johnson says it is about time to consider establishing an equivalent for wall street.

writing this past sunday, and i quote: senior fellow at the peterson institute, professor at mit's sloan school of management and co-author of "white house burning" burning", an absolutely spectacular book that i was fortunate enough to get a copy of. simon thank you for joining us. give us the structural problem and what you think you can do about it. >> there is a problem at the heart of the federal reserve system. we have bankers and big bankers, and too big for sale banks, like jimmy dimon. >> just so it is clear to folks when jpmorgan chase is lobbying

regulators to loosen the restrictions, he is lobbying himself. >> in part yes. it is complicated with a lot of players, but he is absolutely overseeing the budget. they do keep him a little bit buffered away from supervision but he is directly overlooking the research department that has a say on capitol requirements, taking bigger leveraged bets. >> since this issue has arisen and you have been driving the notion that there is a structural problem, the fed has been saying, well it's an appearance issue. it is not the board that makes these day-to-day decisions, but not only do you choose the president of the new york fed, but the folks who work there know they report directly and indirectly to you, so it this is a general structural issue. >> it is a huge issue. where else do we allow the governing body to sit on the

board? >> right. that is exactly the issue they want you to focus on on. the national transportation safety board you say look, we wouldn't let the safety of airplanes be governed by the airlines themselves. why would we do this? >> well, there was a deal done between woodrow wilson and the bankers, and this is the deal. it changed a little bit in the past, and it can change again. the bankers could become part of an advisory committee. have some genuinely independent people on the board of the feds. >> the ceo of ge was in fact sitting on the board of the new york fed at the same time that ge was getting tens of billion dollarses of dollars of commercial paper.

so this biplay seems to be continuing, and has been continuing for some period of time. >> it actually has gotten worse recently. since the very big banks got this unconditionable guarantee. we now call them too big to fail for a reason. >> i want to make it clear to folks -- it is starting to lightning and thunder at the very time you suggested this. is that because your idea is shaking the foundations of our financial system? >> absolutely. the governor structure of the new york fed is out of sync with the rest of american society with expectations of what we regard as best practice. >> couple of minutes before we got to wrap you have written also very persuasively about the fiscal clip we're facing at the end of the year, john baner who has been raising the issue of not raising the debt ceiling. what will happen as you get closer and closer to that

deadline without resolution. >> it's not good for consumer confidence and destabilized bond markets here and around the world. if you want to push the euro countries over the presspus have a big debacle in the united states. >> it is clearly the republican argument they love to make. uncertainty is unsettling the markets. and the uncertainty last year was the failure to raise the debt ceiling, so john boehner is raising that once again. >> it's the argument the way it is done. our politicians insist on this crazy discussion which really just destabilizes markets and really hurt consumer confidence. >> last question -- i just don't want to let you go -- you heard

the last conversation about john -- excuse me about mitt romney and the statements he made to time magazine. is he in fact an [ inaudible ]. >> everyone is a caneseeian? >> they are very mechanical. gorge w-- george w. bush was the ultimate kansian. it's more important to focus on funding the levels. >> in your book "white house burning," going back through the history of what has happened at various points and then you give us the wisdom of what we

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the latest massacre of sirrian villagers has put new pressure on the obama administration to aid the row assistance while iran announces plans to produce more high-grade uranium. the u.s. confirms that more than a hundred villages in syria were massacred friday. the president's regime used heavy artillery against civilsians. the u.s. spokesperson said and i quote: and there was a meeting again in damascus but several countries are expelling ambassadors. at least 10,000 people have

reportedly been killed since the uprising began 14 months ago and while the conflict over iran seems to be concluding inconclusively, the head of iron says it will begin enriching uranium. for more on the latest mideast crises to morocco, deputy senior advisor for middle east policy to president carter and currently senior vice president at apco worldwide, and as well a blogger on many cites as well as huffco and you have just written a very hard critique of the obama administration's policies in syria. tell us why you think they are so wrong and what we should be doing? >> the biggest problem we have in syria from my own interpretation elliot is we have subcontracted, essentially a policy first to the arab

league then the turks and we're about to do it again with the russians what happened in syria will have far greatest interests than what we could possibly have in libya. >> we did subcontract libya to nato and the arab league. it was part of leading from behind syria has not had any success so far. what is the difference and what should we be doing? >> they are completely different situations. he had no real strategic interest other than humanitarian interest in libya, we have a far greatest interest in libya. and yet because of the way we approached this at the un we have in effect blocked ourselves from being able to do far more than we should have done in syria, and that is the administration's alibi. >> syria has had russia and

china blocking for it so how can we get them to come over to our position, or even in defy answer of russia and china. and do you think we should? your article which is incredit ble powerful does not recommend sending marines in syria. >> absolutely not. i am dead set against putting american forces on the ground in syria, however, we could be getting the european union to file an indictment. we could permit the turks and the arab league to provide covert resistance. we could be in effect helping to quarantine the shipment of arms that the russians are providing right now as they claim to be supporting a peace plan, they are providing most of the arms --

>> how do we do that? >> put a resolution before the un security council and dare them to veto it. >> you were a diplomat you played the game of cat and mouse in tough negotiations there is a roll for public diplomasy where we say to russia, we dare you to veto something that is clearly in favor of the rest of the world. >> exactly. let them stand before the court of world public opinion to say we will continue to provide arms to syria. >> what does the white house say -- and why haven't we done that? >> because they essentially were hoping they would be able to get the russians to come on board with them in adopting what essentially is a yemeni resolution. and i don't think the russians

will agree to that. >> certainly the track record thus far as you watch the number 10,000 they referenced a few minutes ago -- 10,000 sirrian civilians killed -- >> let alone those tortured and injured. >> he would not have been acting that way -- >> or to find a solution. >> so if the russians and chinese continue to play ball with rashard. what else can we do? >> i think we need to help provide the arab medical association the opportunity to provide relief. think of the cities that have been under tack. assad's forces are not allowing to medical help to arrive to these cities. i have no illusions that all of what i have recommended in this

article is going to cause assad to pack up and leave but if we do nothing, the sirrian people will hold us accountable for not doing anything. at least go down with a fight chance here to put more pressure on this regime. >> is there any historical situation bosnia or any other -- >> absolutely. the europeans refused to stop the shelling of sariavo for almost 15 minutes. >> look we only have about a minute left. we're going to take our quick tour around the middle east. the egyptian elections. >> i was dead wrong. this was a disaster that all of us missed coming.

the fact that the muslim brotherhood was able to in effect put its candidate ahead of almost every other candidate means that i think he is going to win. so the brotherhood will end up controlling the presidency and the constitutional convention. >> this is a two-step process and the two candidates who have moved on to the final are they converging into u.s. politics in a different setting? >> no. >> are they converging to the mid-until >> no way. i have always said the military and the brotherhood may be in cahoots with each other but in the end somebody is going to have to emerge as president. i don't see why the brotherhood now has its leading candidate prevail is going to wind up forfeiting this election. >> quickly, then where is that

moderate center? >> the moderate center is going to disappear. it will be the silent majority that may not even vote. >> will the military maintain power over its troops? >> absolutely. no matter what happens here the brotherhood cannot govern without the support, even if it's quiet support of the military. >> this will be a fascinating story senior advisor for middle east policy to president carter and currently senior vice president at apco worldwide, thanks for your time and thought. >> thank you. >> president obama has increased government spending more than any president ever has or ever well. that's

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love america and would never attack it. is that true? >> i think that's probably true back in maybe the sixth grade. how could i really think about refraining from attacking america. they are actually putting people just like me on the kill list with their drones. >> tune in tomorrow night for more of this exclusive interview. now let's head out west and check in with michael shure who is guest hosting "the war room." >> thanks, elliot i'm filling in for governor grandholm tonight in "the war room," where we're all over mitt romney's blatant corpship of the donald. we'll discuss and shift our focus to voter up presentation in florida and moves being made

to prevent floridians from being able to vote in the upcoming lek we have those stories a a whole lot more right here at the top of the hour. >> thanks, michael. eleanor cliff kill as many as we can... >>the story of the american born jihadist on the run for his life. an exclusive new interview only on "viewpoint with eliot spitzer." let's debunk one of the central myths about president obama being spread by mitt romney. the myth is that this president has boosted spending at a voracious rate and lead a renaissance of big government. a claim that mitt romney is

trumpeting on his website and talks about all the time. except it is false. obama has had the smallest budget increase in nearly 60 years. the budget for his first year of course was set by the previous government in congress. but after that spending fell 1.8%, next year spending rose by 4.3%, and then it kept up by 0.7%. spending since 2009 will have risen only 1.4% a year a tiny amount, less than herbert hoover increased spending. compare that to the last year ofbush's tenure spending jumped 17.9%. we know there is a problem because the deficit is so big, but republicans want us to think spending is the problem, that way they cover up the real cause of the deficits enormous tax cuts that we could never afford. a recession caused by wall

street's loss of reason judgment and morals, and two cars we had no plan to pay for. republicans want to hide some real solutions. if we think we're spending more then spending is what we'll try to fix, but if we focus on the true source of these huge deficits, we might decide to do the so, you guys grew up together. yes, since third grade... what are you lookin' at? not looking at i anything... we're not good enough for you. must be supermodels? what do you model gloves? brad, eat a snickers. why? 'cause you get a little angry when you're hungry. better? [ male announcer ] you're not you when you're hungry™. better. [ male announcer ] snickers satisfies.

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the new slogan should be "we own wall street." that's my view. the iraq war cost hundreds of billions of dollars and claim some 4,500 american lives, and much of our government's credible. peter van buren chronicled some of that waste and criticizes

u.s. foreign policy on a regular basis. in a recent book and ongoing block both . he says, and i quote: joining me now is department of state whistleblower peter van buren, author of "we meant well how i helped lose the battle of the hearts and minds of the iraqi people." when were you there and what were you doing? >> i was in iraq for a year from 2009 to 2010, and i sent there as part of the reconstruction effort. the state department and the government in general realized the fighting, killing, and

bombing was not going to be enough. we were going to have to win over the hearts and minds of the iraqi people and the state department sent me and people like me to do that, to win the war. >> for how many years had you been working with and in the united states government prior to going to iraq? >> i had been in the foreign service for 22 years, served overseas almost that entire time mostly in east asia but other parts of the world as well i was a very experienced person and not really shy of bureaucracy. but what i saw in iraq was so wasteful and over the top i had to tell someone. >> was it not only were we wasting money but failing in our ultimate purpose which was winning the hearts and minds of the public. >> we were failing and failed terribly. a chapter in my book is called

everyone was looking the other way and that described what we were doing. projects would be funded money spent, no one would look at the results. the important thing was to have propaganda made signs put up and then move on to the next thing. >> within the foreign service and the american diplomatic corps and the military that was at that point significant numbers in iraq, was there a conversation saying hey, guys this isn't working? >> the conversation stopped at a certain point. on the ground level we all understood what was going on. we understood that we were throwing money down dry holes giving money to people -- pasting feathers together hoping it would come out to be a chicken one day. and the conversation stopped at a several level. and people started talking about impact in washington. the secretary of agriculture is going to make a speech we need

an agriculture project to feature. go buy us one. the people in the embassy stayed in the embassy it was surrounded by high walls and air conditioning, and they were satisfying washington not the needs in iraq. >> give us tangible example of a program we funded that simply weren't producing a result. >> $2.5 million to build a poultry processing plant out in the middle of nowhere. the people who specified the plant never bothered to look to the left or right of the plant. where would the chickens come from, and be sold to. when i walked in it was frightened about the smell of it being a slaughter house and was overwhelmed by the smell of paint. we never processed a chicken there. >> and what was the desire to

spending this amount of money without the lack of foresight and planning? help in reconstructing a civil society. what went so awry. >> it was executed by giants. in iraq we had a hodgepodge of contractors and foreign service providers and other who were out there mainly to get their combat pay and bolster their own resumes and evaluations. >> could it have worked? >> it could have worked better but it wouldn't have worked. the violence was ever ending the issues that were left unresolved were not going to accommodate an economic boom, but could it have worked better? absolutely. >> the premise may not have been totally wrong that some investment would help rebuild a

civil society. >> certainly. the people we dealt with desperately needed water clean sewage suers, and instead of that we built the chicken plant and show piece projects that were designed to look good on the news in america. >> since you have written this book and continued to write on your blog what has hand to you at the state department? >> i have been shunned at the state department. back in october the state claimed that a leak on my blog meant that i could no longer have a security clearance. we then pushed me out of my job and put me on essentially house arrest and since then i have been home as what is essentially a teleworker, though my boss never seems to call. i have been shunned but they

haven't actually pushed me out the door. >> there must be some rights where you need differing view to help arrive at good policy. why would they want to surpress an alternative view? >> it doesn't exist in the state department in the amount it should. the department is very much like the mafia. one doesn't talk about dirty laundry outside of the walls of foggie bottom, and until that let that out i'm afraid things like iraq will repeat itself. >> what is next for you? >> continue to fight using the aclu to convince the state department to allow me to state. >> all right department of state whistleblower peter van buren, thank you so much for being here. >> thank