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♪ california has always been a leader when it comes to innovation, and silicon valley is exception. google's special research vision, google x has been working for years on a much-rumored self driving car. recently the california senate passed a bill allowing for self-driving cars on its roads. and sergey tells me his own experience with the cars has been seamless. these hands-free cars make commutes

much less stressful and effective. cars will drop passengers off in front of their destination, and fine their own way home or give someone else a lift. of course it will take some time to hammer out all of the safety and legal implications. but it appears that california is ready technology. >> ai, cars that don't need drivers. is that real? i know the california legislature is now allowing these vehicles on streets, because there were prohibiting people from not using the steering wheel, and breaks. >> the horses youed to back up themselves. >> that's a good point. >> yeah, i'm really excited

about that project. that is a little bit more ambitious than some. and i think it can really revolutionize people's lives, and obviously if you are -- you know, disabled if you have issues with your eyesight or something like that. if you are young or old, there is a whole host of people who can't get around. and in the valley around here your only option is really cars. >> sure. >> but then you think about all of your time that you spending, you know, commuting place to place, you know, as the driver and how much of your attention and effort that commands and, you know, we have been -- i have spent a tremendous amount of time driving cars, and i took it out on the highway and pushed a button that says, you know,

okay, you take over. and this was a while ago, and it felt nice, and i was like -- okay, a few minutes later you it says you need to take over in a couple of minutes because it didn't know the route or something. and i was like what? no, you drive. i got used to it so quickly that the notion -- it is a very different feeling. but moreover let me tell you another really interesting aspect, and from your school days you probably remember, how challenging parking is, or for a person to park -- and how much -- look outside, look at all of the asphalt, and you go to the suburbs and corporate parks, it's all asphalts. well, with the self driving car it drops you off and takes somebody else somewhere else,

and you don't need parking. >> good point. and you just whistle or something and it comes. >> yeah. and if you didn't want to park a reason, you can stack them together really tight. >> this is all coming out of google, huh? this is all part -- >> this is x. >> all part of google x. >> yeah. >> you are also now exploring the frontiers of space. the lunar ex-prize. >> yeah. in terms of supporting space flight and a robot that would bring back videos. there is all kindsover rumors coming out of google x. i almost describe you sort of as a cia, no one knows exactly where it is or who works there. is that exaggerated? >> no, no cia at the moment. no, we just really want to sort

of push technology, you know, in areas where we feel that it's -- you know, sort of -- it needs somewhat of a push, but it's achievable and will make a really big difference to people's thoughts, and i think this transportation issue is a really big one. >> sure. >> there is also the issue of safety, we have 40,000 fatalities in the u.s. every year due to cars. >> and is this because cameras and sensors are becoming more available and cheaper? >> the sensors have improved. we primarily use laser scanners rather than cameras, but, yeah, the computation power of course is getting in credible, but then there is a lot of algorithmic work.

and the safety is a challenge. >> even the automobile industry, are they on the leading edge of this, or are you guys? this? >> there are some companies that have done some work, and mostly like mercedes, mbw, they are done more work. some of the mercedes will stop themselves before you crash into whatever you were going to crash into. and that's a huge feature. you have to think about, well, why did they omit that feature before. but i understand it's technically difficult, so i think companies are making progress, but they tend to be more incremental. we're not a car company. we're working on the self driving piece of the technology,

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that are making a difference. (vo) here's how you can connect with the gavin newsom show. >>i'm an outsider in the inside. ideas are the best politics. ♪ you guys started your own foundation. what else? i mean obviously the parkinson's is front and center, what are your own passions as it relates to philanthropy? >> uh-huh. >> i think -- yeah -- wikipedia freedom of information, human rights, global freedom kinds of things. we just sponsored this -- the ozwell freedom form, where lots

of human rights activists around the world get together and award prizes. i think it's an amazing time in terms of some freedom around the world. we just had the arab spring. the egyptian presidential elections going on as we speak or something. >> yeah. >> and i -- i do think that -- you know, i kind of talk before about how the internet is going to spread information, and be free and happy, but i think that's actually true. we are starting to see that, because you can't really suppress information in today's day and age. >> [ inaudible ] was a good example for google. and the reality is there. and suppressing information and security issues, right? >> uh-huh. >> ultimately the power of the technology ultimately prevails. is that it? >> look, there are many nuances

in different countries, and many different situations, but i have become convinced, kinding of over -- especially the last two years, seeing the formed societies and the benefits of the transparency of communication to people all over the world. it's really amazing. >> what did wikileaks represent to you? the whole idea that google talks about, and stewart brand talked about, information wants to get out and be free. is that what wikileaks represented? are we moving in a world of true transparency in the broadest sense. >> the ability to spread information around the world is one piece. but the wikileaks is potentially secret information, and a lot of people have hard feelings about

that. but the net effect from people all around the world leading these diplomatic cables was a much greater understanding of what was going on around the world. quite honestly i was impressed what the real honest assessment is, and i'm sure not all of them are accurate, but it presents like much more frank view of the world. now i'm sure these folks job is now harder because now every time they write something they have to think twice. i think people all too often horde and protect information, and i'm guilty of it, and google is guilty of it. we're like oh, no, that's very secret or whatever. what these glasses are doing right now. you can't show them to anybody, they are still

you know. >> right. >> there is this tendency to be very protective, and yet there could there a huge benefit. >> where do you see in the future in terms of solving some of these health crises specifically. are we still in our infant stage in terms of our utilization of the health smear? >> i think. >> i think what has hurt health care is we were underpowered with data. they have all of this data, but it has really never been analyzed, and we never really incorporated that data with really important things like your genetics. we're just at the point where

that is going to start to happen. and it's the vision of 23andme for you have millions and millions of people involved and learning about their genetics. and it will be a massive data problem. and that's where the likes of google will come in. that's a lot of data for us to start to compute on if i'm going to compare you with another million individuals. so we're already starting to get to that point right now, for a lot of the biotech companies, it's a data management problem. but if you can change through that, you'll really start to have a genetic basis. >> and google health there was fits and starts, and pulling back now? is that right? >> no, that was one of the efforts that we did shut down.

sort of -- i guess it was part of our [ overlapping speakers ] this? >> no, i think health -- i think we underestimated the social and regulatory challenges of health. like i don't think it's really technology problem per se, like it's just very complicated ecosystem, very complicated policies around it. very complicated motivations for all parties. i think -- you know, it was -- >> not really a consumer market. >> it's very different. >> i think that's actually what 23andme has tried to do. we're not part of the health care system. we go straight to the consumer, and that's part of the reason why we don't go to the physician and get involved in reimbursement or insurance providers, because once you are

in that system it is really sticky, and it's you. you own your data, but if i go to your insurance company there are all sorts of problems to come. so it's a very different approach. i think google health had potential, if you are going to bring together all of this information, it is going to become a data issue. and that's where you are going to need massive computing power. in our final moments with they just don't cut it any more. right? [ laughter ] >> 46 minutes after the hour, right back on the "stephanie miller show."

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♪ how is the evolution of the last decade been, just on a personal basis? i mean your time, the demand for your time? people's expectations of you? people's thoughts about you? people that you have never even met blogging about you, talking about you, your own privacy, how has your life changed as a couple and even individually. >> well, i still live in the same place, and i haven't officially moved out of my parent's house. my stuff is still there. >> do you let him in. >> yeah. >> he can come over

periodically. your parents will allow him. seriously i can only imagine being in your situation, where, you know, you don't have the privacy and anonymity you once had, and in a world where everybody wants to know about everybody and everything, it has to be difficult. >> the biggest thing for me is there is only 24 hours in the day. when i was young and single, i just worked all the time, and go hang out with my friends, or whatever. it never really occurred to me, i would have to -- sorry i don't have time to do those things or not as much. and, you know, when you are at some important projects at work, and -- and anne and my time together and our -- our kids, and, you know, exercise and hobby's -- >> it's hard. selective.

>> doesn't technology supposed to free us to have more time. >> i can work from home a lot. i can actually be with the kids. answer emails, do calls. so i do think that that -- >> that's a bit libber at itting. what do you do to relax? what do you do for fun? >> we travel. >> travel. >> a fair amount. >> i think the basics. it's nice to be with the kids. >> we spend time with family and the kids. >> take walks. >> oh, you do not take walks. [ laughter ] [ overlapping speakers ] >> when she was like seven months pregnant she drags me and our dogs on this hike that was

so gruelling -- the dogs kind of [ laughter ] >> i had to help get the dogs back to the car -- >> i would give him like on sample walk, and he is like -- >> it was like mount everest. >> but there is nothing better than the simplicities of life. we have family over, we go swimming. we get coffee in the morning. >> lots of coffee. >> now i understand the coffee. what is the craziest idea he has come home with? what is the one where you go what is he thinking? or it is the one he is wearing right now? >> we -- we -- should we build a house at some point or -- or not, and sergey has always had this dream that we should just live in a zeppelin.

>> an air ship. >> and then we wouldn't actually need to live in one spot. we could just anchor it anywhere -- >> we could just show up and be like hey, we're right above you. >> we have actually argued about stuff like that. that kind of stuff happens all the time. this is one of the best -- on our -- when i was like eight month's pregnant i wanted to buy an outfit for our unborn child, and he was very upset, because he wasn't sure that the child should wear clothes. >> i feel like our children inherently will have too much stuff. you can have like a couple of outfits, but do you need like a thousand -- >> she

wanted like thousands >> i see a zeppelin floating around the bay area. >> yeah, i have been involved with that project. it's definitely fun. it's a different sensation than planes or helicopters. it is much quieter -- >> it would be a nice house. it would be nice to visit -- >> but there's no backyard. backyard. >> put a parachute on the dog. >> for such a bad idea there's to. >> it takes a little adjusting. but usually you have to sit on the idea for a little while. and then go okay, that's not such a bad idea. >> just in the final moments, the general sense of silicon valley, there's a lot of exuberance, ipos, and not just facebook, but all of these

others, what is your sense comparing and contrasting where we were a decade ago to where we are today? things change dramatically? is there a more opportunistic time than it was in the past for start ups for folks to enter in to venture capital? what is your sense of where the valley is and where we're going? >> there's a pretty good feel right now of -- so many different things have started, been successful. and there's a -- like i was just with mark pinkus, and things he wants to do and the philanthropy that he wants to get involved in. what is nice is you have a lot of incredibly successful individuals who want to do good. i think that's also where silicon valley is going to become a big mover for innovation. and you have people who have made a lot of money, but then

they want to do something good with it. i see that with a lot of people who have left google who then went on to taken initiatives and get education. so focus really on education and how are we going to move -- you know, bringing the whole academy to education worldwide. so i see a lot of really empowered do-gooders. so i think that's is what is going to happen next. >> interesting. do you think about that, just the two of you, outside of obviously your success in your respective fields, but what about your own philanthropy, as you focus on parkinson's now, what is your sense? >> well, we started and we do the philanthropy as i mentioned for parkinson's, and other rights related things.

a lot of local charities. but doing all of these things teaches us and is part of our education process. >> like immigration, both are us are recent immigrants, and when i see some of the stuff that happens with immigration i would love to put more resources into making sure that is something that -- that we can help the immigrants coming in. >> yeah. received? >> larry actually -- larry gave me really great advise when i was on the wall street side and complaining about healthcare, and i would complain and complain, and at some point larry got really annoyed, and he was like, look, either you are part of the problem or you are fixing the problem, so look choose. because right now you are part of the problem. and that was a part of a slap. it's so easy to complain, well, then fix it.

do something. that's why i love sergey's mindset, there is always something that can do better, and i think that's been a huge influence. >> yeah, how about you sergey? what is some great advice you have received over the years? >> i think it's don't take yourself too seriously. i think that's certainly -- i have been very fortunate with google and a variety of endeavors, but a lot of it is just luck, and some people get very successful, and they assume it's because they were so special, and yet there is a lot of luck there. time. >> every day. >> take out the trash, you wake kids. >> and go on long walks -- >> and go on long walks with me. >> speaking of time we're out of time. show. >> thank you. >> yeah, fun. >> great to see you gin. >> sergey brin and anne wojcicki

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