[ ♪ theme ♪ ] [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: sound a little pitchy, dove. thank god hal sparks is here. we're all going to need to get naked and lay in a spooning pile. are you down jacki? >> yeah, i'm down. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: hello. listen. early tape is lost. that was my only comedy thing i had left what with scott walker. we're on this. we'll see what happens. headline is democrats appeared

to take senate with narrow win. >> in wisconsin. >> stephanie: i'm confused about that last race. we'll check on all of the latest totals. all right. in the meantime, we have a big show. dr. jill biden, marylou henner, chris perry. there is some happy news. >> absolutely. >> some remembered to show up. that's odd. >> bet she's a memory expert. >> david bender to talk about wisconsin. now, here she is jacki she schecky schechner. >> i'll give you guys updates on the state senate stuff. scott walker still has a job. the wisconsin governor did beat milwaukee mayor tom barrett 53-46. two and a half million people voted which would be 75% of registered voters and even higher turnout than anticipated. there is no shortage of speculation today about what walker's win would mean for the larger political landscape but seeing if walker outspent barrett almost eight to one and 70% of his donations last month

came from out of state, it is obvious we have just witnessed the impact of citizens united. in the wake, barrett is telling supporters not to give up. >> to those of you who care about this state which i love, please please, please remain engaged, remain involved because we will continue to fight for justice and fairness in this city and this state. >> a possible silver lining through all of this is what we were discussing about the wisconsin state senate. if democrats to former state senator john lehman wins, that would give them the senate. here's what's happened now. he's declared victory over van waip guard. since he's only won by 800 voters, the a. p. say the race is officially too close to call. he has three days to ask for a recount. he has to give a good reason and depending on how much he lost

by, he may have to pay for some or all of it. we're back with more after the break. gaeme inc. thank gaemezilinsky, thank you for joining

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>> what is that heavy breathing i hear? ♪ the humpty dance ♪ >> hump day with hal sparks. >> yes, yes! >> stephanie: wow. >> stephanie: welcome to our post-citizens united world. >> 8-1 buys you 8%. >> stephanie: scott walker -- [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] 54-45. but it looks like we'll check in with jackie schechner hopefully soon. this is the story this morning. democrats appeared to have gained control of the state senate in the john lehman -- he defeated van wanggaard who has too many as in his name. voters voted him out and voted for more vowels for him. voted to buy him a vowel. >> yeah, there was someone else i think downticket running for like local chair for something like that who actually lost because there was no vowels in

their name. because they had to use them all to print it. >> stephanie: i love this part though. wanggaard's campaign manager hinted at a recount. i see. very, very concerned we count each and every vote. >> they're very concerned. >> stephanie: vote counting. >> the voting machine shenanigans would help him as much as they helped everybody else and that was not the case. >> stephanie: 51-49 he won which seems, jim if you were a democrat, i guess it is different. a comfortable margin. he said we owe it to all of senator van wanggaard's -- supporters and voters of wisconsin that thoroughly examine the election. as a result and act accordingly once we have all of the information. i'm sure there was malfeasance from acorn and the black

panthers. >> and wisconsin. you didn't notice it. because of all of the other black people. >> leprechauns and other vote-stealing scams. >> if he was in germany wouldn't his name be von vanguard. it would be very confusing. >> stephanie: we're speaking gobbledygook. hal sparks, first of all, we do have a big show coming up. we have chris perry because it was a great day for marriage equality here in california. the ninth circuit -- how do you call it? they declined to rehear the case. so looks like on to the supreme court. marylou henner, remember she will be on the show. >> did you forget? >> stephanie: hottie, memory expert. >> watch what you say around her because she'll remember it forever. >> absolutely. by the way if you're thinking of losing weight or getting fit or revamping your entire nutritional outlook her books and system are probably the best

i've ever seen. >> stephanie: it works on jim. when he knows she's coming in, she's going to smell i've been eating cheese. >> she can look at you and tell just because of the puffiness. >> how your face changes. >> absolutely gorgeous. she's a beautiful woman. >> stephanie: dr. jill biden. on the pitching show today with her new -- she has a book out. >> a children's book. >> stephanie: yes, called -- what is it? hang on. >> hold it up for the camera. god bless our troops. it is delightful. david bender political strategist extraordinaire. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] >> stephanie: it is our news chick, good morning, jacki schechner. >> it is not enough for you to torture me during the break. >> stephanie: more, more more. we want to shove knew the bleachers. what are you hearing about this democrats taking control of the senate? >> yeah, so what it looks like is that lehman won by less than 800 votes with all of the

precincts reporting. so what they're doing now is saying okay, you can have a recount. they got three days to decide if they want a recount and if they do van wanggaard has to pay for it himself depending on the margin of defeat. >> by himself, we mean koch brothers money. >> stephanie: which koch brother do you mean? >> not from his own piggy bank, i'm sure. >> stephanie: jacki, have you had a chance to take a look at the turnout? i know david bender and i -- we were still drunk this morning. he's at my house. he was saying youth turnout not good. worse than in 2010. >> we hadn't seen the youth turnout numbers yet but an interesting thing, there was a law that came through that republicans passed that said you have to be in a certain location for 28 days before you can register to vote. and five of the largest universities in wisconsin let out less than 28 days ago. so students who were registered to vote on college campuses were not legally allowed to reregister to vote at home

because they didn't meet that 28-day deadline. >> imagine that. >> stephanie: imagine that. republican voter suppression tactics working splendidly so far. >> by the way, this fall varying degrees of going back to school will probably affect that just as well going into the next presidential election. >> it could be actually depending on when they go back to school although i would imagine if they go early enough in september, they would hit the deadline. >> have to get right on it and they would have to know -- it is going to take a tremendous drive. to reregister. >> stephanie: from looking at the early numbers this morning jacki, cranky old white people apparently voted in large numbers. i don't think it helped when kathleen madison made fun of old poll workers yesterday. >> madigan? >> here's your ballot. i voted for taft. >> everybody named gladys and sadie. >> hazel.

[ laughter ] >> stephanie: rock the hazel vote. oh and speaking of which jacki schechner has a great new thing on current.com called you're not helping. tell us about your piece today. >> it is my first in what will hopefully be a series of you're not helping posts for current.com. the one today is about this movement we read about yesterday called rock the slut vote which yeah which was reportedly a woman who is trying to take back the word slut from everything that happened with rush limbaugh and sandra. >> stephanie: i'm with you on this. i'm with my fellow current slut on this. oh, excuse me. [ laughter ] jacki makes great points in it. for instance, with sexy liberal tour, hal and i talk about taking the word back. you make the point in there that liberal was not a dirty word until the right-wingers made it so. slut has always been pejorative. >> it has always been a derogatory term for women. if we're trying to push the

women movement forward, we should embrace words that empower women not words that demean them. i don't think there is any power to be earned in embracing the word "slut." >> i had to veto jim ward who wanted to call this show the whore room. we all have to fight back where we can. i'm happy to have estrogen on my side for a change. >> i'm going to write a article, you're not helping.org that says whores can apply to males and females. >> it is a verb. >> whereas slut doesn't and should. >> stephanie: jacki, dade made a good point. he was saying he wouldn't rock the f word for gay men. they've always been pejorative. >> whoever created the word is welcome to keep it in my book. i don't want to back. >> stephanie: rush limbaugh can have it. i agree with you all the time on everything because you are my new best friend in the world. >> do you have the little charm

necklace where i have half the heart and i have the other half. >> i'm getting you friendship rings later. >> shut up. there's too much here. i love you jacki. see you at the top of the hour. >> love you, too doll. [ applause ] >> she was kicking your hands off the top of the treehouse. >> is she going to be your date tonight to the obama thing? >> no. she has to go to bed before -- at o [ bleep ] clock. >> to the blaine fest. >> stephanie: shush! >> blaine? >> karl frist said -- would you like to have blaine book -- not after the crap you guys gave him yesterday. [ applause ] mock me. because he's not coming tonight. >> here's the story. stephanie made a lot of money to go to an obama fund-raiser and pink was supposed to be there. [ wah wah ] but she was in the hospital over the weekend so she can't perform so they got blaine from glee to

perform and the problem -- >> stephanie: i don't watch anything that's not on cable news. >> she knew who pink was. she doesn't know who blaine is. >> stephanie: ellen degeneres is going to be there. >> you're like the president. >> stephanie: it is going to be great. >> raising money for the obama campaign. >> obama could have done the singing. >> stephanie: he has a great -- >> he has a great singing voice. >> you know what you remind me of and this disgusts me. you remind me of people who go to a charity -- like a silent auction at a pediatric a.i.d.s. benefit or a cancer benefit and shop for deals. you know what i mean? this vacation package is listed at $5,000. i'm hoping to get it for $1200. it is to benefit children with cancer. you try to go for a deal. i don't want to support unions and working people the middle class. >> stephanie: thank you for that hypothetical smear hal

sparks of which you have no evidence whatsoever. >> pink isn't performing, who i really couldn't quote forethan one lyric from. >> stephanie: i can, too. ♪ >> raise your glass. >> stephanie: let's get this party started. >> single lines from songs. >> stephanie: i have never negotiated for a vacation package at a pediatric a.i.d.s. thing, thank you very much, hal sparks. >> i said you remind me of someone like that. the fight going on this fall is equally important on a lot of fronts. >> stephanie: i'm more fired up ready to go after yesterday in wisconsin! [ ding ding ] onward progressive soldiers! [ applause ] >> that's what it is going to take. this is their testing ground for this system. >> stephanie: i'm just saying, i could have raised a glass to pink, even better.

[ whatever! ] >> stephanie: now i'm probably going to triple bid on some vacation package just to prove hal sparks done. >> good, my work here is done! >> stephanie: how about a trip -- how about a trip to bakersfield for $17,000. [ applause ] >> thank you masked man. >> stephanie: 18 minutes after the hour. carbonite, carbonite, what have we done before carbonite. remember you could just like kablooey and everything would go bu-bye in your computer. you could forget to do it. there is a better way to back up your business files do. it automatically online with carbonite. set it up once. all of your companies files will be backed up. i know someone who just lost -- [ wah wah ] their electronic calendar which i don't understand because i only have a paper one but my point is it is bad. >> they're harder to lose. >> stephanie: plans start at $59 for the entire year. i use it to back up my files.

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ground to not flip you off earlier. >> what did i say? >> stephanie: you're torture in the tank. i'm cranky today. leave me alone. >> this is much more butch than the original version. >> i'm having beer and brats so i can begin the healing with scott walker. >> i'll take the beer. >> stephanie: every current mug that's here. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. first of all mittens taking credit. he didn't set foot in wisconsin. it is like it is a big pro mittens vote. >> and again, hines was on one of the other networks. >> stephanie: you're going to germany, aren't you? why don't you take him back? >> i don't think they want him back. they're god to ride this momentum into november. they lost the senate. arguably what's going to happen in wisconsin is a stalemate. much like what the republicans tried to do with barack obama which is block everything, just

hold the line. >> stephanie: does this answer the question once and for all about the citizens united argument about the unions -- really? $20 million went into scott walker. $3 million to -- >> one area where the unions have to get their act together and that is public versus private sector unions and the ability for them to divide and conquer. it worked. effectively, there is an ideological problem here and a lot of people think -- >> stephanie: you're right. in the short term, he's getting what he wants the union membership is plummeting. this was his whole -- this is what he was doing. >> but private unions seem to think they're in a different boat than public unions and they've put -- they make them fight against each other essentially and say that eventually the public sector unions are fighting to hold on to government versions of what your jobs would be and if we

could privatize certain things, you guys would get more of these and they're not important like you're important, blah, blah blah. >> stephanie: you're right. a good analogy there is look at the president has come out for marriage equality. the black vote has completely flipped. that's leadership. but you know the right wing groups have literally wrote the memos saying we're going to drive a wedge between blacks and gays. it looks like in minnesota and elsewhere, gay marriage is probably going to pass for the first time. >> i think that's gone. that was a great disarming that the president did. it was -- and by the way, a strategy that's been in place for awhile. that needed a couple of markers to actually work but they actually made it happen. and there are a couple of things probably between now and the election that will kick in that are part of the long game. >> stephanie: maryland, i believe the african-american voters completely flipped so that may be one of the places where electorally, wins for the

first time. dana, you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: good morning, stephanie. >> stephanie: good morning. >> caller: good morning everybody, hi, hal. >> stephanie: you're so perky. >> as she should be. >> caller: i'm infuriated as well as stephanie. i have bronchitis so a little hard for me to talk. >> stephanie: is this how you sound when you're infuriated? >> caller: yeah. because i was screaming so much. sarah palin, just a guise of her intelligence gooses -- i don't get. it i'm so happy about the numbers of people that went out to vote. i think that's very encouraging. so i'm going to say that and i just -- i hope it fires people up to go out and vote in november. i wanted to know what you thought about them obviously putting the republican ugly stamp on the fair pay for women act. >> stephanie: oh, i know. you need to stop now.

you have bronchitis. take some tea and honey. tea and honey and settle. >> no dairy because it -- marylou henner can smell it on you. >> stephanie: republicans say we're not going to vote for the paycheck fairness act. lilly ledbetter covers that. they all voted against lilly ledbetter, too! >> it doesn't. it allows you to hide the crime essentially. you can still try to do that. it starts from day one. that's avoiding the whole part of it. it is funny that they use the trial lawyer aspect of it. it will benefit trial lawyers. they'll be able to sue people who aren't paying equally for equal work. that's what lilly ledbetter gives you the ability to look back further and when you find out you've been discriminated against, immediately start your lawsuit as opposed to you had to start it within 90 days of the first paycheck. >> stephanie: republicans are

having a hard time covering up their anti-woman. >> yelling at michael steele about this. you have nothing. explain to me why you can't vote against this. he just babbled on for like -- shut up! you have nothing. you've got nothing. >> stephanie: at some point, it is verbal like packing peanuts. >> i've got to say something to earn my paycheck here as a contributor. >> stephanie: you get a box of that. there's nothing in here! there's nothing here. >> no object, no verb. >> stephanie: when we come back, we have that sarah palin sound byte and the rest of right-wing world. won't that be fun? right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> i think your show is absolutely vulgar. i think it is sad. we're raising kids to be -- respectful. there's no way you're adding to it. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show."

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the fake koch brother prankster on the phone. >> move on to a private job anyways after ruining the government from the inside for awhile. this is the mole aspect of the republican party. >> probably go to a private prison. >> i mention the fact that walker may get indicted this week and -- on twitter and someone said i was an effing retard. [ applause ] >> i'm like okay, if that's your method of debate then god bless you. >> you're stupid! >> stephanie: i got an awesome hate letter, too. i'll find it. it is awesome. >> you're kidding me, right? >> wait for it? you're kidding me, right. all of those guys who used to yell at you for arguing about ron paul have moved on to generic republican ballot. >> stephanie: in case you haven't heard claims governor is not cooperating with investigation. oh dear.

>> fleeing the interview. i'll go count the gol dang cars. you want a lockdown? right now. i'm in the middle of counting. >> stephanie: oh no. i've caused an explosion. >> is that your friend back there in the wood chipper? [ explosion ] >> he's kind of funny looking. >> stephanie: in court last week, one of walker's closest confidantes contradicted the claim he's been fully cooperative with the investigation. charlie pierce has a great piece on this in esquire. we talked to him yesterday. an old walker aide who has been charged with embezzlement. he has not been cooperative with the probe. walker has been stonewalling them. >> stephanie: as charlie pierce wrote yesterday, it is not unreasonable to assume this is a warning shot. take care of me or you're going down. evidence that heads have already rolled. as they say in the crime movies.

>> he's rolled. >> we're going to take you down by the riverbank and give you what for. >> stephanie: annie in pittsburgh. >> caller: good morning, everybody. there was an exit question yesterday in wisconsin and i heard it on msnbc this morning. >> stephanie: no, you didn't. you don't watch anything but current television. >> caller: it was on when i woke up. >> stephanie: all right, fine. >> caller: only 25% of the voters thought that a recall was the proper action to take on this subject. they thought recall should only be if the governor did something criminal. >> stephanie: wait for that. it is only wednesday. >> caller: it is amazing. 75% of the people then were voting probably to keep him in office. >> a good portion of like older democrats and sort of more centrists and moderate voters

were actually voting to keep the governor in office partly because they were concerned in some cases that could just now the movement of choice. any time you didn't like the governor because of the party -- >> stephanie: they saw how that worked out here in california. [ explosion ] >> it kind of did. ultimately, it was a political move. it was all money. >> slam gray davis for enron. he was the one guy trying to fight it. >> exactly. >> stephanie: however, you know, there are -- >> argentina. >> stephanie: "national journal" this morning, mitt romney and the republican party have their model for the 2012 election in a race that pits each party's political base against each other. walker in wisconsin recall. tuesday, because did he the better job of unifying his party and mobilizing supporters, hal what do you say to that because a lot of people say they had an all hands on deck in terms of money, in terms of unity and did we? >> one of the exit polls said that you know like 52% or

almost 53% voted for barack obama last time around in the exit polling when they would say who did you vote for last time. now either that points to -- >> stephanie: obama comes out way ahead. i have to say i got a lot of letters this morning saying he did the right thing by not going. it is more important to win wisconsin in the fall. that they must have better internal numbers. >> absolutely. if he had tied his presidency to the winner, the loss there, it would have reflected on the presidency. >> stephanie: mittens didn't show up either. he's taking credit for it. >> both sides were avoiding it for that exact reason. for smart political gamesmanship. the odd part, kind of what i was pointing out, you've got upwards of 52% who said they voted for obama in the last election of actual voters in a lot of the areas and then the vote skews the other way. that's a combination of a lot of factors. some of those may be voting to

keep the governor in out of panic that like i said anybody with money can come in and start shifting an election. >> stephanie: i've heard a lot of factors. i'm not an expert -- >> voting machines and other stuff. >> stephanie: i find a lot of people also say that that's another factor, we could have gone with, it had a feeling of a retread. in my opinion, if russ feingold would have won. >> bear set a good guy and a decent candidate but when you have recall walker as -- here's the thing. whatever person you put the most attention on, they automatically get somewhere in the order of a 2% bump because of name recognition. it should have been you know, barrett-focused in the entire campaign. unfortunately, it was the vitriol against walker with i is the driving force. you have a portion of the voters who will go oh i guess walker is the guy. that's the name i know. >> stephanie: john in jersey

you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, my name is john. what we should learn from this election, these three things, gotta control the message. we didn't keep the message of how to go after walker. our eyes were off the prize. it gave a lot of the tea bagger parts and parts of the walker -- otherwise, i call them koch bitches. >> he loves me at tea bagger parts. >> i think i disagree with him. >> about? >> i don't think we took our eye off the ball. i think our eye was firmly op the ball. we got outspent. i disagree with him. >> stephanie: jeanie. hello, jeanie. >> caller: hi, everybody. how you doing? >> stephanie: good. >> caller: good. i'm calling because i think walker should not have, thank god -- have thanked god.

he should have thanked the koch brothers for all of their money. >> stephanie: his personal god. >> caller: i feel bad for the people there because they fought so hard but i think everybody should keep fighting. >> absolutely. >> caller: not give up because -- and keep on his butt. >> stephanie: jeanie, that's exactly right. that's what they're hoping it will dampen turnout in the fall. i'm just reading this headline that hal was talking about earlier. wisconsin exit poll, voters like obama don't like recalls. what they've been referring to as recall fatigue or whatever. the important silver lining is it looks like we'll have a democratic legislature which will stymie him going further extreme right and it looks like obviously based on today that obama will take wisconsin. >> this gives you an indication of the kind of ground game we're going to have to fight in november. >> stephanie: yep. >> it is just a preview of what's going to happen in november. >> stephanie: a preview of the kind of money they're going to

spend. >> and again, if their senate -- their house/senate situation is any indication too people are paying more attention to downticket races and may pay more attention to their congressperson or their senator and the like which is ultimately so important. i have no flinch in saying vote obama. i'm comfortable with that vote entirely. but people need to look at who their senator and their congressperson is and really get behind them this election cycle because that's where the shenanigans are. >> stephanie: they know they have a really bad candidate. [ ding ding ] in mittens. >> they hate his guts. >> stephanie: how many right wing -- did you see the "wall street journal"? "wall street journal" has uncovered a collection of e-mails from romney's time as governor to reveal a lot about his changing positions on healthcare. he was a staunch defender of the individual mandate. why looky there! [ applause ] hey, maybe the -- the white house government could use some of his editorials in the supreme

court case. maybe they could -- can you file briefs late? >> that would help. >> stephanie: according to the e-mails, mr. romney published an op ed the day before he signed the legislation. he defended the mandate by noting taxpayers foot the bill when they seek healthcare. either the individual pays or the taxpayers pay. a free ride on the government is not libertarian. said the op ed. mr. romney added an uninsured libertarian might consider he could refuse the free care but under law, that's impossible and inhumane. ♪ let's hear it for the boy ♪ >> stephanie: mittens, you're so right. >> obama care is just wrong in every way. >> stephanie: romney did not just consider a mandate useful to massachusetts. >> essential in a bad way. >> stephanie: precisely what the supreme court is debating right now. isn't that something? how timely. marcus in south carolina. you're on "the stephanie miller show."

>> caller: hey. so what really bothers me about what happened in the election was especially the heinous ads. did you see the dead baby ad they ran. >> stephanie: who? >> caller: scott walker. >> stephanie: i heard about it yeah. >> caller: exactly. what frustrates me is you have all of this money coming in from outside sources, is this the kind of stuff we'll be seeing in the november election? >> stephanie: yes. let me take that one yes. [ ding ding ] that's why we need to be prepared. hal, maybe this is one of those things that toughens you up. know what i'm saying? >> it kind of has to because ultimately this is the fight. you cannot be in this situation where you're bringing a knife to a gunfight as it were on political terms. i think barbara lee has been great lately, really talking about this -- congresswoman barbara lee from california. they're really taking the kid gloves off and they need to. >> stephanie: i saw her on

bill press this morning. she's one of our fighters. speaking of which, that's what i'm saying governor walker in the words of the immortal christina aguilera, thanks for making me a fighter! [ ding ding ] going down one way or another. >> blaine from glee also sang that. and quite well. >> stephanie: 45 minutes after the hour. >> do not flip the bird on national television. >> stephanie: right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> oh, god! that feels weird and good all at once. >> announcer: this is "the stephanie miller show." >>liberal and proud of it.

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>> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ in my life ♪ ♪ gotta get up, gotta get down, girl ♪ >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 50 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free. wrestle your fingert to ground as well? chris? >> yeah. >> stephanie: okay, 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. cindy in michigan. >> caller: hi, steph. yeah, i watched that yesterday. i had to take a sleeping pill last night. it was too much for me. i used to live in wisconsin. and one thing i heard was that the republicans didn't exactly pay directly for votes but they sort of rented people's yards $100 to put up signs so i don't know if somebody is ever going to look that up. and then you were talking about the equal pay legislation. i know for a fact where i used

to work, you could be fired for talking openly about what you made with another employee so how could a woman who's being discriminated against know for years -- >> stephanie: that's right. >> caller: the difference if you cannot even talk about it. >> that's the point though. that was the whole point. watch the movie "9 to 5", that was a story point in that movie in 1983. >> 1980. >> stephanie: call in now. we would put you on hold then talk about it. >> it was their way of guaranteeing the women in the steno pool could not figure out who was making more in the office and therefore even try to work their way up the ladder. and then -- >> stephanie: and then you end up where? in the break room trying to make poison coffee for your boss with the animated bird flying around you. >> stephanie: i have almost a photographic memory for lily. >> that and the incredible

shrinking woman. >> kiss off. i'm a doctor. sioux in rockland you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: good morning, everybody. i wish it was a happier day. listen, the huff post is spinning this. that the labor unions lost. that this was a fight against unions. and leading the pack, of course, was fox-ticious news. are they not all members of aftra which is now united. do they not all pay dues and enjoy the benefits of pension? >> stephanie: yep. >> and all of the benefits of the insurance that they get through their union. their healthcare is provided. >> stephanie: let's dive in and visit them, shall we? [ ♪ circus ♪ ] this is what the caller was talking about, sarah palin on the fox news. >> i think the democrats understand that the president's no show represents the fact that obama's goose is cooked. more and more americans realize that what wisconsin has just

manifested via this vote, embracing austerity and fiscal responsibility is a complete opposite of what president obama and the white house represents. >> she doesn't know what the word manifested means. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] >> stephanie: the exit polls for the election show obama leading. that's what i'm saying. >> manifested thing. >> by the way -- >> with under over -- >> stephanie: u.s. americans will do -- >> it is like they got her that refrigerator magnet poetry thing. political words so that she could just -- >> stephanie: i need a new word! >> manifested the destiny of -- >> stephanie: she does it from her little home studio. how many times do you think she yells to todd for a new word? todd! >> he's right there. >> i need a new word.

>> word of the day calendars where you rip off -- >> he uses the cue cards. >> instead of writing an actual statement. they have a series of words in a stack that he shuffles. >> stephanie: manifest. >> say this one and then this one and this one. >> here's the upside of the quote. >> stephanie: todd, get off your sewing machine. what is my word of the day! >> she's getting talking points. she just embraced austerity by term, not in concept but she actually stated her support for austerity and everybody knows that doesn't work. >> a growing number of independents and republicans know that austerity is a terrible way to go. >> austerity has led to 11% unemployment rate in europe. >> stephanie: great piece about it. i'll do guess a quote later and ask jim who said that stuff. rush limbaugh. >> we've spoken in the past on this program about how the left wants to criminalize policy

disagreements. you're not liberal, you're engaging in criminal activity. if you're a conservative. it is about nothing more than policy. they got enough signatures to recall walker and it is strictly about policy. nothing more. it is not about malfeasance or corruption. not about crime. it is simply about policy disagreements. >> stephanie: nobody said that part is criminal. the part he will get indicted for later this week, that part is criminal. [ applause ] the first part, he's wrong about. >> they're not criminalizing what they did. they posted an election. they gathered signatures. they formed a recall. they lost but that's democracy in action unfortunately. and that's not the same thing as having someone arrested and removed from a space. it just isn't. >> collective bargaining in a public sector is like the kid playing santa claus. they're always going to get what they want. it the only way to stop it.

this guy has guts. walker has guts for standing up to him. >> people thought -- they threatened him. i'm just saying he was trying to do his job which is responsibility to the state to be fiscally responsible and instead he gets threatened to throw out of office. now he's ahead. >> stephanie: that's the most irritating little hunk of audio i've heard. >> the sum total of their i.q. points? >> stephanie: how many times can we say this? he didn't have a budget shortfall. he gave tax breaks to his top 1%. >> he also killed new train transit lines. like the federal -- like transit program to try and get our train system in this country actually functional again, he and a couple other republican governors have gotten together and conspired to ruin it. that's the whole goal. and they lost tens of thousands of jobs because of it. >> stephanie: all right.

brian, fox and friends. >> i'm getting a sense there is a lot of recall fatigue in wisconsin. people are pretty much fed up. you guys are wasting a lot of money. $16 million just on this one. >> stephanie: democracy is a waste of money. i never heard them say that about when schwarzenegger won. >> that's different. >> stephanie: democrat, it is democracy. >> that was a real recall. >> total recall! >> stephanie: hey, speaking of which, good segue coming up right after the top of the hour, chris perry from perry versus schwarzenegger. the king and the queen. it is our diamond jubilee. >> i have a bladder infection from that. >> watch out for richard quest. >> cranberry juice. >> stephanie: all right. chris perry to talk about the -- right back on "the stephanie miller show."

governor tomorrow night. she is awesome. we'll be right back on the "stephanie miller show." [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: hello current tv fans. here we are getting ready for big hour number two. jacki schechner on guitar as usual. we'll be talking to chris perry of perry versus schwarzenegger right after the top of the -- we have some happy clappy news. yesterday good news in the marriage equality fight. marylou henner coming up. dr. jill biden several degrees there and david bender to talk about what happened in wisconsin. all right. in the meantime, it is jim and it's diamond jubilee to introduce jacki schechner.

>> jacki schechner. i want to drop my trousers and wiggle. >> jacki used to work with richard quest. you do realize this, right? >> richard quest won't appear on a tv show. >> here's wolf blitzer to introduce jacki schechner. >> stephanie: good morning jacki. >> good morning everybody. president obama is going to be here in california today for two fund-raisers in san francisco and then another two in los angeles. lgbt groups are organizing the two here in los angeles. the first is the one stephanie is going to. the leadership council gala where pink was expected to perform until she caught the flu. the second is a private dinner hosted by glee creator ryan murphy and his fiancee david miller. the gala was a schedule of the sls hotel in beverly hills. it had find a bigger venue after president obama came out in support of same-sex marriage. the event is sold out with tickets running as high as $25,000 per couple. it is a sign of president

obama's growing support from the lgbt community. cnn reporting about one in every 16 of the president's bunglers is openly gay. since they aren't required to declare their sexual orientation, "the washington post" estimates the numbers could be as high as one in six. >> openly gay bund letters have raised $8 million between january and the end of march. according to a new cnn/orc international poll, the recognition of same-sex marriage is on the rise. it is at 54% today compared to 44% in 2008. opposition is falling, too. four years ago, 53% of people said marriages between gay and lesbian couples should not be recognized legally. that's down to 42%. cnn says for the first time in its polling, a majority of people say they have a family member or close friend who is gay or lesbian. that's at 60%. back in 2007, that number was just 45%. we're back with more after the break. stay with us. oh and you can join us online

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hump days with hal sparks. hal off to germany tonight. we're all off the rest of sexy liberal to saturday to boston. hal is back for us for l.a. in july. seattle in september. columbus in august. get it go. [ applause ] >> good times. >> get smacked in the chop for that. >> i bring them a bundt cake. mitt romell -- i mean mitt romney. >> stephanie: let's get to the happy clappy news in the wake of wisconsin. yesterday, the u.s. court of appeals declined to we are visit an appeal to a ruling that found prop 8, the california constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage unconstitutional. the decision clears the way for the case to head to the supreme court. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: jim, the case was called perry versus

schwarzenegger. who did the perry refer to? >> linda perry. >> stephanie: no! [ buzzer ] >> steve perry. >> joe perry. >> stephanie: no! chris perry. >> jane's addiction. >> stephanie: chris perry who joins us now. >> good morning! >> stephanie: hang on, i'm conferencing you. here's your lovely and talented wife. hi, chris and sandy. how are you? i know we've had these talks several times. this is yet another big day in the fight for marriage equality, right? >> it is a great day. yesterday was the most amazing ruling, the third time a federal court has struck down proposition 8 as unconstitutional and clearing a path for the supreme court. it was amazing. >> stephanie: kris, take us through what happens now. obviously this is a victory but -- obviously we're going to hear something but at what point do you think about the supreme court? >> the other side has a couple of weeks to file documents with the court and up to 90 days to

send something to the supreme court asking them to certify the case of which of course they can choose not to. we hope that they do. there would be briefings and arguments in the spring and hopefully a ruling a year from now. >> before they can call the wham bulance. >> stephanie: they aren't going to try to appeal it here. >> they can't appeal it in california anymore. they have to say something to the supreme court about what the district court and the circuit court said about the rulings. in other words, it has moved to the highest levels now if they want to appeal again. >> stephanie: what happens if the

these sweet honey clustery things have fiber? fiber one. almost tastes like one of jack's cereals. uh forgot jack's cereal. [ jack ] what's for breakfast? uh try the number one! i've never heard of that. [ wife ] it's great. it's a sweet honey cereal, you'll love it. yeah this is pretty good. >> we were there the other night to say good-bye to our fearless leader ted griffin who is headed off to be president of the human rights campaign which was terrific. we saw lots of our friends who we know are headed over there. are you? >> stephanie: i'm par at aing with ellen degeneres and the president. >> how great! >> stephanie: i'll raise a glass for you even though pink had to cancel. she has a tummy thing. >> oh! >> stephanie: kris perry and sandy, thanks so much you guys. congratulations. >> thank you. >> stephanie: there they go. yea. >> apparently the quote was i believe homophobia is a real

presence to our society. we would be more american on the day we permit same-sex marriage than the day before. against marriage equality who accidentally i guess -- on purpose -- by the way -- >> stephanie: and the other attorney said the same thing jerry sandusky's attorney. [ wah wah ] >> this big argument against it was that polygamy and polyamory would be rampant if you allowed gay people to get married. >> what is it? >> it is a relationship based thing. love multiple partners. [ ♪ magic wand ♪ ] >> you have sex, you have a primary partner then sex with multiple partners, polyamory is you have loving relationships with -- >> tea parties. >> stephanie: all right. 18 minutes after the hour. kids we develop trust in the people we know. we can't trust someone we can't

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>> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ ♪ she's a man-eater ♪ >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 24 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. debbie in new hampshire.

you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, good morning. i'm just calling because i'm really distraught this morning about what happened last night in the voting. and i was wondering if you guys could -- i mean what is it that people can do today? because -- >> stephanie: not get dispirited. get fired up and ready to go for the fall. that's what you can do. don't let them -- that's exactly what they're hoping that this depressing turnout. if anything, we learned we gotta gotta -- they hoped an influx of young voters -- but they made up only 16% of the electorate. and well under the 22% representation in 2008. part of that is some of this voter suppression stuff that they're doing with student i.d.s. >> 300,000 voters in texas are being purged and this is part of the plan.

obama won the youth vote by 29 points in wisconsin last time. this is the silver lining in the exit polls. obama leading romney by 51% to 44%. how about this statistic. 18% of those voters who said they would vote for obama over romney in november voted for walker on tuesday. [ scooby-doo's "huh?" ] >> they voted against the concept of a recall. essentially that's what a lot of them were thinking. some of them quite frankly won the same arc of union voters, too. he won i think 37% of union households. >> stephanie: which i -- like you said they -- unfortunately in the short term probably succeeded at this public versus private unions about dividing them and getting this emto fight each other. >> that was the plan and it worked in that regard with that segment. again, it is just -- all you need is a margin in certain areas and you can chip away at it. when all else fails and the argument doesn't work, you eliminate the ability for certain groups. >> stephanie: the message is all hands on deck for november!

[ applause ] >> stephanie: let's finish up right-wing world. megan kelly. >> i love the bit because that is the person on whom the movie "devil wears prada" was based. having her fund raise for him. >> stephanie: see, see? [ ding ding ] >> stephanie: the president, the antichrist and from the devil wears prada. >> the movie the devil wears prada was based on her. >> also the symbol of i guess wealth and well-to-do lifestyle wouldn't -- does not benefit in the upcoming election. unlike someone like donald trump. >> stephanie: remember there is no war on women. it is just a figment of our imagination. >> stephanie: here's ed klein. >> they're already thinking seriously about running in 2000. >> she'll be 69 years old. >> hillary. >> as you know and i don't want to sound anti-feminist here but

she's not looking good these days. she's looking overweight and she's looking very tired. >> she's not trying, to be honest. >> it does look that way. >> stephanie: so she needs to turn it up for you to qualify. >> wow! [ screaming ] >> isn't that breathtaking? >> wow. >> i'm going to go there are a lot of reasons why she looks great for her age. let's move beyond that fact that maybe she looks a little tired because she works for a living. she busts her ass making sure that iran and other countries -- >> stephanie: this is back in eighth grading that sarah jessica parker did a thing for president obama all over the internet, horse face and she's ugly. what? first of all, she's beautiful. really? >> the point i'm trying to make is specifically hillary clinton, i'm guessing she has some late nights. a lot of them. >> stephanie: ya think? >> a few red eye flights. >> stephanie: by the way -- >> flying in and out of afghanistan. >> stephanie: we just killed the number two guy in al-qaeda

again! [ ding ding ] but again, i'm just saying with the drone in pakistan. sorry hillary didn't have the right kind of eye shadow on. >> cnn said al-qaeda's general manager which i thought was great. who is going to stack al-qaeda's pants now? >> stephanie: they don't wear pants. >> they have to -- >> stephanie: once again, jim -- that's the dumbest -- would you like to be number two? okay. [ explosion ] >> do you have a problem with the register, who's going to fix it now. >> brian killmy looks like crap lately. >> stephanie: marylou henner next on "the stephanie miller show."

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current tv. >> she represents the spirit of sloth and alcoholism. >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 34 minutes after the hour. oh! i forget who's on now. >> see what you did now. >> marylou henner. >> testing the memory! [ ding ding ] >> stephanie: actress and slash marylou henner. >> stephanie: can you smell all of the dairy we've been eating. >> i'm remembering the smell from last time. >> believe me, it is still here. >> memory expert marilu henner. >> she's right! >> believe me.

>> marilu, fabulous new book, total memory makeover, uncover your past, take charge of your future. we did not know -- i remember back when you told us you were a memory freak and you remember everything. the exact day you met me, what i was wearing. >> it is funny. i was tweeting about that. oh, yeah, we met may 1 of 2008. it was a thursday. and all of that. then i was on your show the first time may 6th. it was tom bergeron a supper club thing. >> stephanie: to some people you might be scary freak. [ ding ding ] to me -- you are -- [ applause ] >> stephanie: it is just -- you have to tell us why the book because i love the way it starts. if you could remember the confidence you felt when your prom date said yes, could it embalm you to ask for a raise today. would the details with a heartbreaking ex help you see the red flags in a sexy new romance. that's the one i need! >> people go oh, i don't want to

remember the bad memories then they keep making the same mistakes over and over again. the thing is that the bad memories you're probably going to remember anyway because memory is tied to adrenaline both highs and lows. you'll remember the birth of a child, the day you got married the day you met your person, whatever. but you know, the bad stuff, it is like saying oh, i'm going to read this book but in chapter 10, something bad happens to the protagonist so i'm not going to read it. it is like -- it informs the rest of the book. i keep saying to people you have to bring all of your memories forward so then you can, you know, you can have them inform your future and you can make some better choices along the way. >> stephanie: marilu, the thing we hear about, done with the past, move on. isn't there a fine line there? >> it is not that you're not moving on. if anything, you're using it to move on because you're not crippled by it or turning it into emotional boogie men. you're able to see a certain perspective on it because you're bringing it forward enough to

say let me look at it from a new sensibility. you know, it is not like -- whereas most people just like stay blocked in those memories and they just keep them there in that dark spot. but you have to kind of bring them out in the light and look at the -- i used to say it is not all black and white. it is shades of gray but now i can't use that expression anymore. >> stephanie: it says the book will help you stop turning painful memories into emotional baggage. that's the line. where is the stuff that's holding you back. where is the stuff you remember it and let it go. >> the thing is that you remember it and let it go but it still informs you and you want to bring it forward for those red flags. you might have had a horrible relationship with somebody but then you take -- you say i don't want to think about it. that's my ex blah, blah, blah. you pick the exact same person. i've been doing memory work for people with a long time. i've been teaching classes both online and in seminars across the country, you know, for years, long before the whole "60 minutes" happened where i became

identified as somebody as having this memory. i've had this memory my entire life. i've been using it to help people and i've also noticed certain things about other people as well. so you know, the thing is that people -- tend to think they have to stay blocked but it is so much better if they don't. >> stephanie: so it is something you can learn? you know whether -- >> of course it is. >> it is not like hey hal! >> i miss you. you're such a lovely lady. >> i miss you, too. >> i'm a huge fan of marilu henner on all fronts. i recommend your books for health reasons to anybody i run into having difficulty losing weight or staying healthy because ultimately, it is the focus on being healthy. probably the same thing applies to memory. >> absolutely. >> your brain works to start with. a lot of times it is just eliminating blockage before you start adding things. >> exactly. >> stephanie: i think my dogs work for marilu henner because they stole two giant hunks of

cheese. they're trying to tell me -- >> running interference. >> leave the cheese to us. >> i hope you're not leaving it to them. >> stephanie: how do you discover your personal memory track. because it would seem like -- you said you've had this your whole life. isn't it hard to develop it later? >> no. i think most memory books teach you other ways of accessing your -- when people think about having a good memory they think i'll remember this list of things or i'll remember this person's name or something like that. but i keep saying you know, use your life. your life is like the greatest memory palace, the greatest memory bank ever. a lot of times people say oh, that's right! like remembering phone numbers you associate them with dates. or faces you associate them with other people. things like that. but it is really about -- it is about using your past. so that you can -- you know, so that you can keep from those blocks.

>> stephanie: what you have is called highly superior autobiographical memory. there is a name for it. >> there are 12 of us so far in the world that have it that are documented with it. i may never turn someone into an h samer but i know from teaching the classes if i say something like okay, think about your 21st birthday. because people always give me the date of their birth. then i turn it around. how about your 21st birthday. i'll tell you what day of the week it was. people start filling in details and they go gosh i haven't thought about that for a long time. wow. and they say oh, boy i've changed a lot or wow i haven't changed at all or that's so good i haven't changed that much. >> stephanie: i may be a lost cause. i don't remember a thing about my 21st birthday. >> it was that good. >> i was goosed by either chip or dale. i couldn't tell because i was facing the wrong way. at disneyland because i don't drink so i went -- on my 21st birthday, i went to disneyland. there is a picture of me actually in the process of being

goosed, i have this big hey hey look on my face! because i didn't know a which one did it and whether it was male or female in the suit or whether i should be happy or curiously upset about it. >> stephanie: you know what? i'm guessing i was drunk because i think it is better than being molested by a fervor. i don't know. >> i would dispute that. >> i would think it is something you would want to forget. >> it is going to keep you away from chipmunks, that's for sure. >> i don't know. >> stephanie: marilu, i'm curious, in terms of psychologists, because i know one of the things here unlock requests to memories that are holding you back. your instinct is i don't want to do that because it will make me sad or live in the past or -- >> if i remember what the alien's face looks like, they'll come back and eliminate me. >> stephanie: the probe went up my -- >> what holds such a power over you that you don't allow yourself to think about it? it is the thinking is not going

to kill you. it is the fear of the thinking that people worry about. once you distill the bomb, take the air out of the balloon as it were, it holds a lot less power and it is not as crippling for you. it doesn't make you feel paralyzed because you can't move on from it. i do sense memory work with people. i was teaching a class a couple of years ago and i asked everybody to bring in an object that reminded them of a turning point in their lives. there was a woman who brought in a perfume bottle. she said she had broken up with someone years ago and she couldn't even look at the bottle. she definitely couldn't wear the perfume because it reminded her of this bad break-up. so she brought this bottle to class. she started talking about it and everything else. the memories started flooding back. well, as a result of that, she was able to get ahold the guy they got together, total closure on the relationship. she ended up losing weight, getting a better job, she was able to move on from that step in her life. now, she had carried that with her and said i never want to

look at the break-up, i don't want to think about him or smell the perfume, i can't think about it who knows what would have happened. >> stacked on every other possible experience like that because there would have been an avoidance point in relationships and interactions for the rest of her life. >> stephanie: that story would have ended with me guzzling from the perfume bottle. >> no different from the day before. >> stephanie: right. >> exactly. but it is very empowering to have a strong memory because people go oh well, doesn't it make you feel like you can't be forgiving. it is quite the opposite because you do see the whole range of things and you start to say okay, what was my responsibility? what can i learn from that experience? what was the other person's responsibility in i've been blaming myself. do you see the whole panorama of everything the more you develop your -- and it is not all sturm and drum. it is fun to go hey, yeah, i felt good then. what was i doing during that time in my life. >> stephanie: marilu, you hear

people say closure is overrated. and to keep trying to go back with one more phone call or one more visit or one more e-mail. isn't there a point, too, where how do you stop thinking about something in the past? >> because if you really explore it, it is in there but it is not going to -- >> you're not thinking about the whole thing. >> it is not in elephant in the room with you all the time. there is a perspective. developing your autobiographical memory gives. >> perspective and it is a very strong feeling to be able to say -- to look back on what you've done and use it as an element in your story to inform your future if you need it but it is not this huge weight that your aconstantly dragging behind you. >> now, dealing with this and helping develop your autobiographical memory help with you specific memories insofar as learning a new skill or like i started learning chinese, yeah, like six years ago. and everybody was like oh, my god, that's impossible. it will be really hard.

most started learning languages after they were 35. your brain is better at compartmentalizing thought. using it functionally. does that help? >> oh, no question about it. it is like anything else. it is like a muscle. your brain. we're capable of the library of congress of remembering that. but we don't use -- we use much less than a tenth of it. and the more you use it in the different parts, also i know from all of the testing they've done on me at u.c. irvine, they've taken all of the different measurements of my brain and the people who have this -- >> that's what they were doing measuring your brain. >> stephanie: you're going to need to take your top off, marilu, we need to put the electrodes everywhere. >> they realize memory sits in so many different places in your brain, on your brain. and so you know, autobiographical memory isn't in one spot and letters and smells. so many different things so the more you're firing up the different areas, the more they all help each other.

so absolutely. like anything else, it is like in the beginning it feels tough but then it gets easier and easier the more you do it. >> stephanie: this has been interesting and yet i have the same conclusion that i'm a single child elderly shut-in loser. i'll think more about the memory thing. the book is "total memory makeover." marilu, always a delight. >> always great to talk to you guys. next time i will definitely be there. >> we want you here. >> stephanie: there she goes. marilu henner. she's just a delight. [ applause ] >> stephanie: all right. 46 minutes. >> what happened? >> like inception. house i get into this room? >> stephanie: speaking of smart women dr. jill biden joins us next on "the stephanie miller show." >> on "the stephanie miller show" radio show in suburban america this morning. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show."

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>> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ in the house ♪ of it it -- >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." >> she can't see me because she's on the phone. look at this beautiful book from dr. jill biden. what an honor dr. biden, thank you so much for coming on. >> hi, stephanie, how are you? >> stephanie: what a thrill to talk to you. >> well, thank you. >> stephanie: this book first of all beautifully illustrated. the first thing i wanted to know is what is she a doctor of. the answer is everything.

[ laughter ] >> stephanie: you earned your doctorate in education. you have a couple of masters. you still teach today, correct? >> i still teach full time. that's right. at a community college in virginia. >> stephanie: at least you're not busy doing anything else. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: i've been so impressed with you. this book is charming. it is told through the eyes of your husband, vice president joe biden and your granddaughter, natalie. >> right. it is told through the eyes of natalie. so it is her story when her daddy, my son, bo, was deployed for a year to iraq. >> stephanie: he's a major in the delaware army national guard, correct? >> that's right. >> stephanie: you know, this is obviously such a common experience but it follows natalie's experience as she learns to cope, right with missing her father and finding comfort obviously in teachers, neighbors, her community, correct? >> yeah. you know, stephanie, one of the things i found is in the book, i do put the common experiences that are universal that all

children have, losing a tooth being on swim team, the things that children go through but one of the things i found as i traveled across this country is really only 1% of americans are fighting in these wars and there are many, many americans who have -- who don't know anybody in the military or are unfamiliar with the military experience. so i think one of the things that i try to do in this book is to inform adults and children through reading this book and hopefully inspire them to an act of kindness. that's why i've put the back matter in the book so if people read this and say our family would like to do something to help our military, i give suggestions. so hopefully this will inspire americans to do something and i did want to mention, too, all of the proceeds from the book go to scholarships for children of the

wounded and our fallen angels. >> stephanie: that's terrific. and it's obviously -- it goes for the future education which is your passion. >> it is. >> stephanie: for the children of military families. >> right. >> stephanie: you know, you make such a good point, dr. biden that we've heard talk about, it is so different from world war ii. i think you're right. there was that feeling of shared sacrifice then and i think you're right in terms of the costs of war, most of us are not fighting it or don't know someone that is. i love the title "don't forget, god bless our troops." it is something we don't talk about as much in everyday life. >> you know, in every state, there is a national guard unit. many people don't realize the people that are in the national guard because they're not wearing a uniform every day. they are -- they are the shopkeeper or the lawyer or a teacher in your community. and i think that they don't have on their uniforms and so that's why it is important to find out who is in your community whether

it's in your church, in your school your -- whatever, who was in the national guard and commit to an act of kindness for that family. just like i showed in my book. during a snowstorm, one of the neighbors came over, a friend of bo's and just shoveled the driveway for my daughter-in-law. just these little acts of kindú reasons so important. there are so many things classrooms can do. like partnering with a unit and sending notes to our soldiers. so there's lots of suggestions and i hope that people will feel inspired to do something. >> stephanie: there are so many cute parts of the book. the making cookies to send to her dad and to the other troops, treats or things like that that might be things that kids think of. really would mean so much to the troops overseas. >> yes, yes. and so that's what our family has done.

at christmas we pack stockings. i packed -- boxes all along the way. there are things that people in communities can find to do if they just call their national guard unit and i've been in iraq. i went last summer and visited the troops. you know, these things mean so much to the men and women who are overseas. >> stephanie: dr. biden, i have to tell you i love the closing scene because i was in an airport i think down near where my mom lives in charlotte north carolina. the scene where he comes home and the soldiers are coming home. i was in an airport and i just started crying. i didn't even know any of them. they were coming home and it was that scene that you have in the book of kids and spouses and whatever rushing toward them and you know -- >> that's what it is like. the joy is palpable. it is such a great feeling. i've been to both. i've been to the deployment ceremonies for so many of our troops and i've been to the

homecomings and believe me, i much prefer the homecomings. >> stephanie: it is such a treasure, this book. i have to ask before you go, how are you feeling about the election? are you fired up and ready to go? >> i'm fired up and ready to go. i think all four of us, we're already out there on the trail. we have a really good feeling about it. and so we're ready to go around america and talk to americans. >> stephanie: i have to tell you, a huge fan of your husband. >> thanks. >> stephanie: he just speaks to, i think middle class americans in a way that is just so real and so authentic. not to say that mitt romney does not have authenticity. [ laughter ] he's just such a great fighter and always has been for the middle class in this country. >> both joe and i grew up middle class and i agree with you. i think joe really does connect with people all around this country. and you know, both of us -- i mean both our parents worked

hard and you know, are -- got to where they are. so you don't forget where you came from. i think that's what people get from joe. >> stephanie: dr. biden, 2012, i'm in. let's go forward! >> thank you. thanks a lot. >> stephanie: the book is "don't forget, god bless our troops." dr. jill biden. what an honor. >> thanks, stephanie. [ applause ] >> stephanie: love her. class, class! >> children's book. >> stephanie: 58 minutes after the hour. back with more hump days with hal sparks on "the stephanie miller show." i'm going to be on with the governor tomorrow night. she is awesome. we'll be right back on the "stephanie miller show."

[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: well, hello current tv fans. here we are getting ready for hour three of the big show. hal sparks making love to his ipad as usual. >> mm-hmm. excuse me. >> stephanie: sexy liberal with hal sparks. >> you do have to, don't you? >> i have one for chat and for news items. i don't wastepaper like queen recycle bin. [cat meowing] >> jacki schechner. >> that calms the boys.

it just hypnotizes them. it is a pretty, shiny news thing. look. now they're all calm. see what you do for me jacki. here she is. jacki schechner in the current news center. >> good morning, everyone. mitt romney has got a hotmail account and someone may have hacked it. we told you yesterday about a story in the "wall street journal" about just how entrenched governor romney was in pushing for the individual mandate in healthcare reform in massachusetts. well that information came from the article in the "wall street journal" had newly publicized e-mails from his time as governor and somebody read the earl. picked up the e-mail account mitt romney at hotmail.com. according to gawker, he guessed the security question and changed the password. gawker couldn't verify the story because if it did, it would put it in legal jeopardy. they communicated with the romney campaign communications team and that team tells gawker authorities are investigating the crime which would then imply that there was in fact some sort of breach.

you may remember there was a college student david cornell who hacked into sarah palin's e-mail in 2008 and he was convicted. voters rejected proposition 29 skts a really close vote. 51-49. the would with have raised $735 million a year and about 3/4 of that would have been spent on cancer research. but big tobacco threw a lot of money into attacking the initiative and the opponents had $47 million to spend. they outspent proponents 4-1. especially tv advertising. according to the campaign for tobacco free kids, california has some of the cheapest cigarettes in the country and currently ranks 33rd in cigarette taxes. it is one of only three states that has not raised cigarette taxes since 1999. we're back with more for you after the break. you can continue to join us in chat current.com/stephanieniler. we'll see you there.

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a lot of lack of punctuation. no caps, no punctuation. you need to shut your mouth like you are the antichrist. go [ bleep ] obama's gay [ bleep ] which that doesn't seem to make any sense [ bleep ] would not be -- gay [ bleep ] if i were -- technically. >> might be bisexual. >> he doesn't seem to know anatomy. >> stephanie: and smoke crack with him like larry sinclair did. the guy from the tabloids. you really suck. stop lying with this liberal bull. we all know you liberals are the devil. no punctation of any kind. [ applause ] >> stephanie: thank you, pete. >> if you hold that up to the camera long enough, people would get his e-mail address. >> that would be unfortunate. >> stephanie: don't do that. looky here, time to return. ♪ return to sender ♪ >> stephanie: david bender our pal. ♪ return to sender ♪

♪ return to ♪ >> david bender. >> stephanie: good morning david bender my househusband. >> good morning. it is entirely possible our son fred, will be barking in the background because the leaf blower is going on. there it is. >> mommy. >> upset about the wisconsin results. >> stephanie: david i was just going to say we can sum up. you are at my house as we speak. we can sum up what happened. we both woke up this morning and just went eh! >> i want to take the high road here. i want to could be -- congratulate governor john doe on his re-election because frankly, that's what we should be calling him now. it used to be wanker. now it is john doe. the target of the john doe investigation are not naming the names but he's governor john

doe. >> stephanie: it is incredible. he may literally be the first governor to survive a recall and be indicted in the same week. >> that's a record! that would be a good record. >> never stop making history! welcome to america! >> stephanie: dade, let's get into the numbers because -- yeah. interesting, too, in this -- i'm looking at the "national journal." wisconsin exit poll, voters like obama don't like recalls. they think officials should only be recalled for official misconduct. again, it is only wednesday. go ahead. >> let's -- recalls have been going on in wisconsin now for a year. the reason the state senate has now flipped is because of recalls. okay. there were two recalls that succeeded in turning out republicans, what was that six nine months ago, whatever point. two of those republicans were recalled. two democrats came in. it was one vote shy and last night, barring more votes from

waukesha county -- this is in racine, the margin is about 800 votes. they could try to pay for a recall but it looks like the republican lost and scott fitzgerald is no longer going to be running the state senate. and at least there are breaks on it. so, the recalls worked. but you're right. there was recall fatigue going on. wisconsin, which is, you know, part of the birthplace of the progressive movement, didn't like this whole idea that you know, it was a permanent election cycle. that's what the koch brothers and all of that money turned it into. remember also that because of a quirk in election law, it was possible for scott walker to start advertising months and months ago long before tom barrett was the candidate. he's been spending all of these millions of dollars. people were sick of it. >> stephanie: let's get into that.

there were a number of factors you and i talked about early this morning in our jammies. we talked about the candidate himself. also may have been that sort of -- retread fatigue as nice a guy as tom barrett is. he had already lost. you had talked about kathleen faulk, liberal. >> the labor unions had supported -- >> stephanie: and loved. >> i think she would have been a very different, more effective candidate. whether the results -- look, it was nine points. there was a lot of money outspent seven to one is the official number. i'll tell you, unofficially and we'll never see some of how the money got spent from outside wisconsin, people writing $250,000 and $500,000. >> stephanie: single people. single individuals. >> bob perry from texas. the swift vote guy. the koch brothers. these people -- the amount of money that flooded in, i don't know kathleen faulk, i don't even know, i think russ feingold might have had a different

result. short of that, who knows. >> stephanie: let me get your take on one strategist. unions spent million on kathleen faulk when it was clear she would lose in the primary. i don't understand why democrats watched this without a consensus candidate that unified their party. there was a lot of tactic decision on the democrat's side that's been quite perplexing. as a democratic strategist, what's your response? >> have you never met a democrat? [ laughter ] unanimity of opinion, working in lock step, that's what democrats have never done and don't do. that's why republicans are republicans. they're followers. the whole john dean theory of -- >> stephanie: david, but isn't that the point that this is a cautionary tale. wow, it looks like good news in that obama led romney 51% to 41% in the exit polls. this national review article is saying walker is a wisconsin recall built on g.o.p. unity and energy. the same strategist said i think

there has not not just a unity of republicans but an excitement of republicans which has been an important factor of the race. they were ready to walk on coals to make sure walker was successful. that's what we with need to do in the fall. >> that's what the pew poll showed a week or ten days ago. that was the thing that worried me the most. the same thing we've seen. it was higher than it was in 2010 by far. 92% of republicans were enthusiastic about turning out for walker. 77% of democrats. almost -- a quarter of democrats were not enthusiastic about voting for tom barrett. >> also, david, do you think that there's a little bit of evidence that democrats did not want a recall because they thought it just left the possibility of future recalls too much of an easy machine to get rid of a democrat in the future. >> maybe. i think it played across the board. people didn't like the idea of the recall process being used this way. and again, it has been used now

in all of the senate races and it has had an impact. people are tired of that. it means perpetual voting like perpetual war. people are sick of it. they think that an election is supposed to resolve something for a period of time. and frankly, it didn't. what we've learned about scott walker is he's a terrible governor. i'm sorry, john doe. he's a terrible governor. but he's a great campaigner. >> stephanie: here he is last night, david. listen. >> tonight we sell wisconsin and sell people all across the globe that voters really do want leaders to stand up and make the tough decisions. [ cheering ] >> stephanie: like you say, i don't know that that's what that proves. >> all across the globe. he's thinking even bigger, isn't he? >> stephanie: people from prague were ecstatic. >> he's long had delusions of grandeur.

it seems like in the exit polling, biggest thing was people saying you should only use recall in case of official misconduct. which you know again wait for it. >> that's right. that's very wisconsin really if you come down to it. it is different than california and you know, this is only the third time in the history of the country that any sitting governor has attempted to be recalled. the first time it didn't work. but here's the other thing to think about here. hal made a point earlier. i think he's right. the unions were pitted against each other. and by -- >> stephanie: hal made that point about public versus private. >> right. remember we saw this was the first exit poll number you and i saw last night stephanie by a narrow margin, a couple of points, people approved of how walker handled collective bargaining. they still support the unions. by, you know 8, 10 points. they support even public employee unions but they approved of how he handled collective bargaining because

they think basically that every single teacher or firefighter retires with a million dollar pension. >> that's the same thing they were told about the autoworkers essentially. and that worked as well. that illusion that they create works very well as a political football. >> if i pay for a lie and repeat it people will -- >> the race where one side is outspending the other by a ratio of at least eight to one probably won't tell us much about a future risk. >> stephanie: except what does this mean for money in the fall, dade? >> it means they're going to outspend the president by at least two to one. and that's exactly what we saw here. this is not that the president doesn't have support. that mitt romney isn't a horrible candidate. that there are all sorts of things that will be different

about the national race than wisconsin. what we did see is that citizens united, which started in wisconsin, it was a wisconsin case, now it has borne fruit. we've seen how it plays out. there was a $1 billion election four years ago. it will be a $4 billion election this time. and two or three of those billions, maybe two and a half of that $4 billion is going to be spent to tear down barack obama. and that the only thing we have to win is we have more people. >> stephanie: dade what about the youth vote we talked about this morning. obviously they did not turn out. voters able 18 to 29 made up 16% of the elect rate equal to their percentage in 2010. >> that was crucial. they needed to be excited, they were not. the problem with the youth vote is that we saw what happened in

2008. hopes were raised. there was this sense of a generational shift. and then the sausage-making began. then they got to see government and nobody particularly young people who are idealistic like to look at the process of what barack obama has gone through. and think this is anything they want to be a part of. the system has let them down in their view. getting them to come back into that system is going to be the big challenge. >> stephanie: david bender great stuff as always. tell fred mama said shush, no barking. love you, honey. see you back at home. in my housecoat and fuzzy slippers. 18 minutes after the hour. we're hump days with hal on "the stephanie miller show." >> it is a combination of low self-esteem, low blood sugar and mixing red wine with my dog's painkillers. >> announcer: this is "the stephanie miller show."

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>> i can't get enough disco. i hear it is making a comeback. >> stephanie: 24 minutes after the hour. >> who uses great -- whatever i guess like soprano cowbell. >> stephanie: christopher walken does. governor john doe yesterday. >> thanks to all of the people who entrusted in me your vote as the governor to be the 45th and continue to be the 45th governor of the great state of

wisconsin. >> i don't think the crowd -- >> old days. >> stephanie: that was jim ward. >> not someone in the actual audience. >> i'll meet with my cabinet in the state's capital. we'll renew our commitment to help small businesses, grow jobs [ cheering ] >> we'll renew our commitment to help grow the quality of life for all of our citizens. both those who voted for me and those who voted for someone else. >> stephanie: even the union thugs? allison in wisconsin. >> then we will invade poland. >> stephanie: he didn't say that. allison in wisconsin, you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: good morning, stephanie. >> stephanie: did he say anything about invading poland? >> caller: he would also have to invade the germans and several other ethnic groups here. i just wanted to make a comment about the person who had written you a note calling you an effing retard which happens to be one

of my least favorite words. my sister is developmentally disabled. and this year under scott walker, three of the programs she participated in had a 30-day notice and they were out of business. these are subsidizing for both education and recreation. it was a co-pay type thing. and my sister does not like scott walker! she goes why can't we -- can't he like go to jail or something? >> stephanie: wait for it! >> caller: i can't wait to see the walk of shame with the jacket over his head. >> stephanie: by the way alice, make sure you keep our hate letters straight. that was chris's letter. [ bleep ] that was mine. >> caller: i have to laugh because i have so many friends from other countries. they say don't you understand what you guys have over there. why don't you pick a good candidate in the first place then you don't have to recall them. over where they live, they just kill them.

>> we don't do that here. >> actually -- >> stephanie: that's next divide and conquer walker is going to divide polish, sausage people like the germans bratwurst. >> looking ahead to tackle the challenges that mace face all of the people of wisconsin, we'll be committed to talking together about how to solve problems and then working together, we're going to move forward with the solutions that put our state back on the right track toward more freedom and more prosperity for all of our people. >> stephanie: he said he wanted to solve it over beer and bratwurst. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] >> didn't we put the idea out there yesterday? >> stephanie: pardon me? >> he must listen to "the stephanie miller show." we put the idea out there of beer and bratwurst. >> stephanie: big fan. tom barrett yesterday. >> this has been the most amazing experience of our lives. >> ow! >> stephanie: what we have seen over the last 16 months is we have seen this democracy come

alive. >> ow! >> stephanie: tell the story. why is that so weird? >> recall supporter slapped tom barrett for basically conceding too quickly. which -- i get it. especially as the margin narrows later in the day, that's when you know blue collar voters end to come out. she thought he jumped it too quickly. democrats -- and i think this is post-2000 and democrats are right to be concerned about this -- once the news organizations start calling an election for a candidate backing down and taking it. with all of the voter purging and the shenanigans that are going to go on in this upcoming election, nobody can afford to do that. you wait late in the day. >> stephanie: "the stephanie miller show" is not pro slapping. >> nope. [ applause ] >> that's where it came from. >> i support her frustration.

>> you know who else was not kind to the developmentally disabled? hitler. buzz buzz. >> stephanie: was there any chance to get through one segment. all right. >> we can send. >> transcript. >> stephanie: hal, you and i preach this all the time. a little more unity. [ ding ding ] a little less slapping of the candidate that you're for. >> stephanie: oh boy. 29 minutes. >> still continuing as the mayor. >> stephanie: we need another big dogs. bill clinton was awesome yesterday. crunchy audio goodness next on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show."

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>> hotter than a carrying brushfire. -- hotter than a calgary brushfire. >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." hump days with sexy liberal hal sparks. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. let's go to rich in minneapolis on "the stephanie miller show." hi rich. >> caller: hi, stephanie. >> stephanie: hi. >> caller: i'm amazed with the diverse group with the republicans that they gather. they've got most rotten, the ones that don't want to fund education or the poor or women's rights or gay rights or anything like that. plus they also have the most principle, honorable upright moral majority and religious right. that's diversity. how can they have those groups?

>> because both of them are lying about their intentions. >> caller: or they're the same. >> yeah. arguably yes. they're a crossover group. one of the groups is pretending. the ann rinders are closet evangelical christians. if you look at the polling, what they talk about in church a vast majority of them are big believers in bootstrapping. like i said, life starts at conception and ends at birth. the minute you're born, you're on your own, kid. start bootstrapping it. climb up the hill to denver. build your own mountainside house and we'll all live off -- we'll pay each other one gold coin for every piece of cheese. >> stephanie: all right. you know i'm a big dog fan. both max and fred, my handsome, romantic pyrenees and the big dog himself.

>> things roaring along now? because europe is in trouble and because the republican congress has adopted the european economic policy. who would have thought after years and years and years, even decades after the republican right attacked old europe that they would embrace the economic policies of the euro zone. austerity and unemployment now at all costs. i mean afterall, their unemployment rate is 11%. ours is 8%. we can get right up there if we just adopt their policies. [ laughter ] you're laughing but you need to tell people this. that's what they're being asked to vote for. >> stephanie: read "this republican economy." you've got to keep crystallizing this. this is the economy that they wanted. it is not working. it is because -- he needs to run against this do nothing republican congress. the big dog again. >> his opponent who said that he's got a better idea was a

governor of the state that was 47th in the country in job growth. he promised that if elected, he would grow the economy and reduce the debt. the office was going up. his plan his plan is to go back to the bush program. except on steroids. the romney republican plan is austerity and more unemployment now and blow the lid off later just at the time we were worried about high interest rates. what's the difference here? share prosperity versus continued austerity and high unemployment. politics of cooperation versus constant conflict and divide and conquer. >> stephanie: he's just awesome. stephanie in illinois, you're on

"the stephanie miller show." hi, steph. >> caller: hey. i couldn't put past on this that this morning. we need to tell people what is happening in this country for three years now. finally got a job at the gas station. and he's had someone work with him. he wasn't able to get a job. what's happening with them with the unemployer is the law says you have to have a break on lunch break if he works seven and a half hours. this is what a lot of companies are doing. they're making them work with no lunch breaks. standing at the cash register. you gotta check out and then eat in ten minutes and they don't pay you for it. because they know people are so desperate for work. now, gas stations refused on any level to see any unions because they would jump all over this. >> exactly why we need unions. by the way, what is this tweet? we played a governor walker clip about saying he wants to work

together and negotiate with the other side? >> eileen said hey walker, talking and working together solve problems, isn't that collective bargaining. >> stephanie: you [ bleep ] nut. >> that was said. >> stephanie: big dog again yesterday. >> i don't think it is important to re-elect the president. i think it is essential to re-elect the president if we want this country to have the kind of future that our children and grandchildren deserve. >> stephanie: guess what. it is time for the john and pam show, everybody. ♪ ♪ from ohio ♪ ♪ it's the john and pam show ♪ ♪ it's the john and pam john and pam, john and pam show ♪ >> stephanie: hello, john and pam show. >> hello! how is my little girl and my three favorite men? >> doing great pam. >> i don't know our webcam from that place went out a few minutes ago but we'll get back

online and we'll be able to watch them. >> stephanie: we're not as fine as john but go ahead. >> well, let me tell you something, i'm sick over what happened in wisconsin. and the people here in ohio better open up their eyes because the same stupid thing is going to be going on here with kasich. the other day, steph, excuse me, honey, they -- you were complaining about him being on david gregory's show. now, listen, they need to put rachel in charge of that show. >> stephanie: yeah. in charge of everything in my opinion. >> yeah, at least she gets down to the truth. >> stephanie: could you believe -- pam, could you believe john kasich. sitting there saying the economy is terrible but it is great here only because of me. thank god at least david gregory said it is because of the auto rescue, you douche! >> and that's what i was telling the little sweetheart that always answers the phone. i can't think of her name. >> rebecca. >> i told her i retired from one of the huge big three right here

in ohio. let me tell you something kasich, he never had a thing to do with saving the auto industry! >> stephanie: yep, i know. >> he's an idiot. >> stephanie: can you please say kiss my grits before you go? >> honey, i wouldn't let him kiss my grits on my worst day. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: give john a big kiss for me. >> caller: he wants to say hi, honey. i know you're on limited time. but darlin', i just love you guys to death. i think i'm going to have to start calling on wednesday because hal is the man too, when he said union busting and no union busting in this house. >> stephanie: that's right. >> caller: here's my honey. >> stephanie: all right, here's john. like talking to my parents. >> caller: i just want to say hi and let's get this country straightened out and back on the right track. >> stephanie: love you guys. [ applause ] >> stephanie: it is like talking to my parents on the

phone in college. [ laughter ] my mom would be like what did you have? what color socks are you wearing? my dad would be are you happy? healthy? got enough money? good. here's your mother. >> stephanie: bill clinton again. >> he's had to get all of this done with a house of representatives that had one of the tea party members claim that 78 to 81 members of the democratic caucus were members of the communist party and neither the presidential nominee or any of the leaders rebuked him from saying that. this is not the 1950s. at least joe mccarthy could skate on the fact there was one or two living communists walking around. [ applause ] nobody has seen a communist in over a decade. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: speaking of history, jim who said what should be done about the economy. republicans seem to have the answer slash spending and cut taxes. that's precisely the policy we've been following the past couple of years.

never mind the democrat knick the white house. this is already the economic policy of republican dreams. >> milton friedman. >> stephanie: no. paul krugman. [ applause ] >> just the opposite. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: jim, who said so the republican electoral strategy is in effect. it is convincing voters it is the result of big spending policies that president obama hasn't followed because the g.o.p. wouldn't let him and our woes can be cured by the policies that have already failed. who said that? paul krugman. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] hang on. the picture for america in 2012 bears a stunning resemblance to the great mistake of 1937 when fdr slashed spending in a u.s. economy which had been recovering fairly fast until that point into the second leg of the great depression. this was an unforced error since he had a solidly democratic congress. in president obama's case, much stood on all of the responsibility for the policy wrong relies with the republican majority in the house.

who said that? paul krugman. go read it. this republican economy. spectacular piece. one last bill clinton. >> listen, this is a big clear election. also for me, it is important to say in my opinion, he's done an amazing job making our country more secure, more safe, more peaceful and building a worked with more partners and fewer adversaries. that is very, very important. >> stephanie: as i mentioned earlier, number two guy in al-qaeda gone again. the drummer in spinal tap. [ explosion ] >> when are they going to get the number three guy? >> another craigslist ad. >> the bush administration used to get number three all the time. he got number one and he's getting all of the number twos who were vying to be number one. the idea is you cut off the snake, it keeps going because another head will appear.

>> stephanie: you need like number five and not very -- not a lot of -- >> like the -- >> stephanie: a lazy number five. >> journalist in yemen who carries messages with him in and out of the conflict areas then gets killed by a drone strike. or put in jail. that kind of guy? >> stephanie: hal, does this -- obviously a lot of controversy over the drone strikes but here we go. the u.s. drone strike in pakistan, this guy -- they say it is a major blow to al-qaeda. >> there's still this idea that drones are robots. that somehow we're releasing these autonomous vehicles. >> stephanie: will smith controls them. >> the ideas that they're sort of a robot. the truth is these are the same as a chinook helicopter or a fighter jet. the only difference there is not a pilot physically in them so they get shot down, the pilot doesn't die. >> they're still wearing flight suits and boots.

they should be in board shorts and ac/dc t-shirts. >> the reason why more drone strikes and fewer actual missions, we just had a helicopter go down in afghanistan. soldiers get killed in that. there's no reason why any president, any military leader who cares about their troops or their soldiers is going to opt for a physical mission with soldiers in it versus a drone in any situation where an air strike is involved because of the potential for being shot down. the closer -- >> stephanie: he's doing what he said when he campaigns. he's fighting a smarter -- war on terror. >> the more precise you want the attacks by the way, the more you want them to kill the bad guys and not get any collateral the more drones there will be. they have to be closer to make that happen. >> stephanie: lesser of eastels. 46 minutes after the hour. back with the waning moments of hump days with hal on "the stephanie miller show." >> it is about witches and strange creatures of the night.

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>> we thank you for putting together an entire set for pink. >> super talented. >> probably singing the entire show to himself yesterday. offhandedly. >> got a band? [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: jim, who said rock the slut vote, you're not helping. if a word starts off as innocuous, it has potential the word liberal comes to mind. there's nothing wrong with being a liberal but the right-wing world has worked hard to hijack the term. bold progressives are determined to take back ownership of the liberal label because it didn't start out as a slur. who said that? >> jacki schechner who has a fabulous new blog up today called you're not helping. it is a new feature on current.com. >> we put a link to it up on your facebook page.

we tweeted out a link to it, too. >> stephanie: jacki schechner who is not a slut. look at her. not at all. >> she's not. [ applause ] >> stephanie: you missed the whole point for pete's -- >> speaking of concerts, wow. madonna orders the air conditioning turned off for a concert in abu can dhabi. i guess she likes big ram yoga. >> aretha franklin does the same thing whenever she sings. >> anybody who's been -- like you perform in vegas regularly or you go to someplace i performed in dubai before, people like -- want to build things in deserts then pretend they're not there. so every place -- you have more danger of freezing to death. phoenix, you can't see a movie without your teeth chattering. you have to bring a sweater. >> it is 110 degrees outside. >> it is 108. make it 75.

don't make it 45 so that you get a blast of refreshing air the second you walk in. because i'm going to spend time in this building. i'm not just walking in to freeze my sweat to my forehead. >> stephanie: you know what it will be 1,000 years from now? it will always be hot as hell. [ screaming ] >> heatstroke with pneumonia. >> vegas, 102 degrees. at 1:00 a.m. and the wind is blowing so it is like a hair dryer in your face. if you're in a casino for more than 12 minutes, you're freezing to death. >> stephanie: thank god, you know -- [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] hilariously funny. everyone that goes to the sexy liberal shows says handsome romantic. he doesn't freak out on you when you use a laser pointer like kanye west. one fan at a show in paris flashed a laser pointer. he lost his [ bleep ] he said you see this guy here

with the green laser don't [ bleep ] it is not a [ bleep ] game. you're going to get [ bleep ] and all of that [ bleep ] out. >> a, i'm on kanye's side. reason one, they can blind you. one thing to shine it at a movie theatre screen and be an annoying jerk but you can burn somebody's retina with one. >> stephanie: cats seem to like them. >> i'm going to go with don't wave a laser at a hip-hop artist. we have a history of a bunch of them being shot at. >> a hip-hop artist with a posse. >> don't do it. >> stephanie: i don't want to be here next year. >> exactly. i'm going to go with mistake. it is one thing to chuck a plastic bottle of water and hit justin bieber in the head but it is another thing entirely to have somebody -- >> stephanie: mark in seattle. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi mark. >> caller: hey, i was calling -- the other day david bender was

on and making it sound like the democrats must win wisconsin. you don't hear republicans or even the obama campaign putting all of their eggs in one basket. i think it is important to look at the strategy the republicans use with the ground game, et cetera. but not to talk like it is fatalistic. >> the republicans, that's actually playing into their hand because they're actually saying that, saying this is an indicator of what the fall is going to be like. >> stephanie: they completely ignored the exit polling. they prefer obama. >> they're pro obama. they don't like the idea it sets a precedent for a recall. they look at california and goes this constant recalling doesn't allow things to play out. whether you like it or not, show up at the next election which is a good what 12% of democrats who are feeling that way. >> stephanie: david bender had said if we're under 65% turnout we're going to lose. it was 58%. billy in extensions a you're -- in texas you're calling with an olive branch. >> caller: i would say so. you know, i was thinking about

this last night and it was such a -- from my view, a pretty good defeat for the left that i thought that maybe i should call you all and just say listen, when we -- there's three things we should do. first of all treat each other with the same dignity and respect and love that we would treat our best friends with. number two, pledge to each other we're going to take the time and evident to sit down and discuss and get through the differences that we have. but the only way we're going to do that is if we do that without the animosity and all of the kind of shenanigans and mocking that you do there on your show. >> stephanie: i see. i get it. i'm the only one that engages in that. >> not a single person on the right. >> stephanie: how about the guy who just asked -- president obama's gay. >> caller: where did that come from? >> it is right here in the dumpster. >> it came from someone on the right, billy. >> caller: that's wrong, too.

if that's true. i don't even know that's true. but if it is true, it is wrong. >> stephanie: you think i wrote the e-mail to myself? >> she would hold it up to the camera. >> caller: you get the point that we gotta figure out how we can sit down and have a discussion about our differences or there's going to be trouble. >> unfortunately, we're out of time. we'll stop the shenanigans. >> absolutely. no more letters about the president's [ bleep ] gay whatever. halsparks.com for all things hal sparks. safe trip to germany. >> follow me on twitter. >> stephanie: all right. that's it for us today. >> safe travels to germany. >> thank you very much. >> stephanie: see you tomorrow on "the stephanie miller show."