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>> announcer: heard around the country and seen on current tv this is the "bill press show." >> bill: hey, you bet it is. it is 33 minutes after the hour. the "full court press" on a tuesday, june 12. so good to have you with us today. and as we do every tuesday, check in with our good friends at think progress. the research arm. i don't know what you would call it. the heart of the center for american progress as far as we're concerned. you want to know where stephanie

and i and ed schultz and all the rest, where we get all of our good information, david out in denver, think progress. that's who. judd legum is in studio with us. tuesdays with judd. how are you? >> great. good to be here, bill. >> bill: thank you. thanks for all of your good work. last time you were in, we were talking last week about rick scott in florida with his attempt to purge the voter rolls. it looks like if you're a democrat in florida, rick scott's goal is to make sure you will put enough obstacles in your path so you can't vote. the last time we talked, eric holder had said you've gotta tell us by the middle of last week, defend this program or drop it. where are we now? >> well, they responded and they basically responded saying we appreciate you sending the letter, department of justice. we're going to go ahead and continue to do this. no matter what. we don't agree with you that

it's illegal. the interesting thing that happened though, so the state of florida said okay, we're going to push on. all of the individual county election supervisors who are actually the ones who can conduct this and many of them are republicans, i think about half, over 30 are republicans. said you know, mr. governor we appreciate what you're doing. but we're going to -- we don't believe in this. they effectively put an end to it. so it is not going on right now not because of anything scott is doing but because these individual elections supervisors -- these are elected positions -- including a lot of republicans said we don't feel comfortable with these lists. but anyway, in the interim things have gotten very litigious. the state of florida is suing the department of homeland security because they want access to a database essentially

so they can try to purge more names. >> bill: let me interrupt you right there. because romney -- rick scott made this point yesterday appearing with neil cavuto on the fox business channel. here's rick scott. >> asking for the department of homeland security's database for months. this he had haven't given it to us. so this afternoon, we'll be filing a lawsuit, the florida secretary of state's office, we'll be filing a lawsuit against the department of homeland security to give us that database. we want to have fair honest elections in our state and so we've been put in a position we have to sue the federal government to get this information. >> bill: so what is this database that they want and why? >> this is a database that the federal government actually keeps to say if you are an immigrant, can we figure out if you're eligible for certain federal programs? so it doesn't include anyone

who's born in the towns start with. -- in the united states to start with. they want to check the voter rolls presumably to find more names they could potentially purge. and it gets kind of complicated but the point is basically the department of homeland security is saying one, it is not intended for this purpose. it is not even a comprehensive listing of who's a citizen and who's not a citizen. secondly, they don't actually -- florida doesn't seem like they actually have the information needed to use this. meaning you can't just plug in someone's name and they spit out you're a citizen. you really need the unique identify fire, their natural -- identifier, their natural identification number and it tells you about eligibility so it is a very specific system. >> bill: rick scott has made this obviously a crusade on his part. i mean based on what? what is the evidence that there's this massive voter fraud in florida that necessitates

this clean sweep? >> there really is none. it is worth noting no other state uses this database to clean their voter rolls. none. all of the other 49 don't do it. actually, cavuto on fox news did an interesting job with that interview yesterday because he noted, look, what's going on? because you seem to be all out on a limb here. you don't have any of the election supervisors, the republican election supervisors supporting you then he brought up, it is conspicuously silent, where is marco rubio on this. where are his essentially big name -- where's jeb bush on this? where are the big republican names in the state supporting you and saying it is necessary and they're really not there. he is really totally out there on his own and they took a poll last week. it had him at 31% approval rating and what was interesting

is it was -- he never had high approval ratings, you were beginning to see republicans drop off from supporting him and the poll made the point that the purge was what's been in the news. >> bill: isn't -- what's holder going to do about this? the attorney general? if the state -- we saw this back in the civil rights days, right? if they're going to stand in the doorway, if they're going to defy federal laws, then the department of justice used to or should maybe move in. is there any sign eric holder -- >> last night, they sent a letter to rick scott and said they're starting action. so they are suing the state of florida to get them to block this activity. which they said was clearly illegal. it is sort of like two ships passing in the night here because the database has nothing to do with the department of

justice. this is the department of homeland security. but the department of justice said look, you're violating federal law. interestingly, it is not necessarily because it is inaccurate but you're not allowed to make any changes within 90 days of an election. florida has a primary in august and a general election in november. so between now and the election you're really not supposed to make any of the systematic changes and you can see why because if you have any problems or if there's any errors, you won't have time to correct them. and if you do it right up against an election, there's no time. >> bill: judd leg emhere from think progress. thinkprogress.org. you also had a good post yesterday or today judd about health insurance. friend of mine mentioned he went by the supreme court yesterday morning and there were 25 cameras lined up out-front monday morning and they thought this could be the day they're going to announce -- it didn't happen yesterday. what is your research show -- what does your research show --

if the supreme court were to invalidate obama healthcare, does everything drop? >> it was an interesting day yesterday because you had the nation's largest health insurer which is united healthcare say look, we're going to keep some of these core provisions in obama care. regardless of what the supreme court does. we're going to still allow young people to join their parents' healthcare up until they're 26 which is a program that now insures over six million young people -- get insurance that way. >> bill: a pretty popular program. >> very popular. and some other of the core provisions about pre-existing conditions and some of the other popular and implemented provisions of the law and then later in the day you had aetna which is another huge healthcare company say we're going to do that as well. we're definitely going to look out to see if this is a domino effect or not. i think it shows that a lot of

these provisions are common sense provisions that have a lot of support. i think that's why you see so much activity and almost desperation to stop this law now before it gets implemented because what we've seen is month by month, as each provision gets implemented, it all of a sudden becomes very popular. when you stop talking about it as sort of the boogie man and people start to say this makes some sense. i like being able to have my son or daughter have healthcare coverage, good healthcare coverage while they're getting started in their professional career. people like it. i think there is going to be other things that are coming down the line and i think the republicans know they have to stop this now before it gets implemented because after 2014 when people start to see the core effects of this, it is going to be almost impossible to reverse. >> bill: right. so it is interesting. over time, the more people who

have signed into the program or the more people who have been able to take advantage of certain provisions of the affordable care act, the more it sort of becomes embedded in our culture, right? the more popular it is. >> there was actually new data that came out the other day that shows that 14 million seniors have gotten access or taken advantage of free preventive care under obama care. >> bill: whoa. >> so you're really starting to see big groups of people reap benefits from this and. course, things like preventive care ultimately, you're going to save money because you're going to catch things early which as everybody knows, if you have a health condition and you catch it early, it will be a lot cheaper. go ahead. >> bill: this is the preventive care that the republicans want to cut in order to pay for keeping student loans at 3.4%. it is idiotic! totally. judd legum here from think progress.

covering the ballpark from voter purge in florida to what might happen to healthcare in the supreme court. i had an interesting conversation with supreme court -- former supreme court justice john paul stephens last night. we'll take your calls, too, as we continue here on the "full court press" at 1-866-55-press. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." steiglitz to discuss the growing despairisparity between haves and have-nots. the millennial generation could roark the world in november. only if they show up and voted. it's in the war room, and it's only on c urrent tv. the new slogan should be "we own steiglitz to discuss the

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rick -- mitt romney, responding to something that president obama said where the private sector is doing okay. relatively speaking. but the public sector is where people are really getting hammer and losing public sector jobs particularly teachers and firefighters and cops. where romney came out and said well, that's the message of wisconsin. that's what the people want. they don't want all of these cops and all of these teachers and all of these fire fighters. i mean that's really their position, isn't it? they're not backing away from it. >> yeah. what's interesting is there's lots of talk about gaffes and you could argue obama didn't phrase it in the right way, there is a gaffe. but there is a difference between a gaffe and your actual position. what happened is romney said look, this is the lesson that we don't need. more teachers or more firefighters or more cops. and you had sununu former

governor up there in new hampshire who's the chair of his national campaign went on television yesterday and said you know, we should stop talking about this as a gaffe. he had a point. >> bill: let's listen to john sununu saying you're damn right. we don't need this many teachers. >> you have cities in this country in which the school population peaked 10, 15 years ago and yet the number of teachers they have maintained has not changed. i think this is a real issue and people ought to stop jumping on it as a gaffe and understand there's wisdom in the comment. >> bill: of course, john sununu doesn't give evidence of the fact there are all of these cities out there that have lost students yet have all of these teachers right on the payroll. >> yeah, not generally a problem that you hear about is teachers that would not -- with not a lot to do. i think the reality of course, is that you know, you could use

some more teachers and there's really a big shortage of specially qualified teachers in the country. >> bill: sitting right in the chair, dennis van roekel, head of the nea told us there are 450,000 fewer teachers today. that doesn't mean there are fewer students. it doesn't mean there are fewer schools. it doesn't mean there are fewer classrooms. it just means there are bigger class sizes right. and fewer teachers to handle the workload. so sununu is dead wrong on this. let's say hello to marla calling from detroit. good morning. thanks for joining us. >> caller: hi, bill. >> bill: hi. >> caller: about voter suppression, if rick scott denies eric holder, why can't eric holder arrest him? >> bill: well, that's a good question. i'm not a lawyer. you're a lawyer judd. >> i am a lawyer. i think that you know, the issue is it's not -- it's not a

violation that carries jail time. i mean -- i think basically what they've done is they've started enforcement to join the action and you know, there's different penalties so if you violate the voting rights act, it is just not something where you go to jail but you could in fact, be required by the court of law -- by a court to stop and i guess at some point if you were in contempt of court or something like that, you know, you could imagine it although generally these political matters don't get settled that way. certainly, they're in some legal hot water. >> bill: the way the process works is the federal government would drag the state of florida into court and it would be resolved in front of a judge or in front of a jury. that's the way our process works. want to come back to this -- to the teachers thing. because again, we're in the middle of a campaign season but it seems that rather than saying oh, i didn't mean like president obama came right out and

corrected himself to make sure people understood exactly what he meant, that the private sector relative to the public sector is doing okay but we need to do a lot more. that the romney campaign they just doubled down saying yeah that's exactly what we mean. that's what the people want. >> i think it is actually important when you talk -- >> bill: newt gingrich said it last night. >> newt gingrich said absolutely this would be -- if you're honest about it, the consequences of romney's policies. i think that's really important for people to recognize is that mitt romney is talking about such severe tax cuts, well, well beyond what we saw even under george w. bush. far greater far deeper especially for the wealthiest. there are real consequences to that kind of fundamental shifting of where could our government get involved and where can't it get involved. the result is not losing some

femoral thing or $500 toilet seats or the things people tell you is what government spends its money on but actual things that people care about like healthcare but also like first responders like teachers, like police officers. all of these issues are supported by the federal government. in fact, it was the stimulus program that prevented a lot of the layoffs even people like bob mcdonnell in virginia admitted that that look, we were able to keep a lot of the folks because of the stimulus. >> bill: absolutely. again, do you great work, judd. thank you. all of your colleagues at think progress. we'll see you again next tuesday. >> great. looking forward to it. >> bill: i'll tell you what the president is up to today. busy day. on the road again. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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how about this. people accuse me of being unpatriotic because i said that maybe we should replace the star-spangled banner with god bless america. how about this. outside of her office here on capitol hill, michele bachmann has replaced the american flag with a tea party flag. yeah. i wanted to dump the star-spangled banner. she's dumped the flag. isn't that a hell of a lot worse. we'll talk about that and a whole lot of other issues here but first, we get all of the latest, today's current news update from jacki schechner in los angeles. hello, jacki. >> good morning, bill. good morning everyone. the justice department as bill and judd were talking about earlier says that it plans to sue the state of florida for refusing to stop purging state voter rolls in violation of at least two federal laws. the civil rights division of the doj has sent a letter to florida secretary of state ken explaining federal laws are in place to stop noncitizens from voting and the state doesn't

have the right to do maintenance within days of elections. the letter says a florida program has critical imperfections that will harm and confuse eligible voters. elections supervisors in all but one of 67 florida counties is refusing to keep up the purge saying they have faulty data but governor rick scott for his part is still defending the program and the state's blaming the department of homeland security for not giving access to its federal citizenship database. the secretary of state is suing dhs claiming the government's fault that florida broke at least one of the two federal voting laws in question. starting now, campaigns are allowed to collect donations via text message. this is a big deal. the fcc ruled unanimously yesterday to allow people to give money through their mobile devices. both democrats and republicans think this is a good idea sayinging it will allow for more public participation, kind of a high tech version of passing the hat. donations limited to $50 per billing cycle per candidate in

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of the "full court press." so good to see you today. thank you for -- hey, thanks for being part of the program. we've always got a seat at the table here at the "full court press." you take that seat by giving us a call at 1-866-55-press. it is a rainy tuesday morning here in our nation's capital. with a lot going on, the house and senate getting ready to take another break and maybe maybe maybe, we'll get something done. they're working on trying to get a farm bill passed before they leave. more likely, they all leave town without having accomplished anything which they've done for most of this year. and we're taking a look at events also around the country. the department of justice telling the state of florida we're coming after you on this voter purge since you won't stop it. we'll go to court and force you to stop it. and now that the european banks have rescued spain, the latest story is it looks like italy is the next country in trouble. jesus, we rescued greece. we rescued spain.

now we have to rescue italy too? anybody over there stand on their own? that kind of gave the markets here a shock yesterday. so we've got it covered wherever it is happening again bringing the news to you and taking your calls at 1-866-55-press. here we are. team press, peter ogborn and dan henning and cyprian bowlding. hello one and all. >> bill, good morning. >> bill: my favorite story of the day. [phone ringing] >> bill: is that it? this one down in georgia. here's what happened. so this guy is a cop. he's a 31-year-old atlanta police officer. and he and a buddy -- he's had a little problem with -- a little heart condition. he's been to the doctor to see a doctor about his heart. follow the facts here very carefully and then he and a buddy go out at a motel somewhere with a woman and the

two of them are -- the three of them start engaging in i guess this wild three-way sex. he has a heart attack and dies. >> during the three-way. >> bill: yes. >> don't you hate when that happens? >> bill: well, what a way to go. >> if you've gotta go. >> bill: his wife sues the doctor because she said the doctor should have warned him that strenuous activity like three-way sex was not good for his heart. she took him to court. she won. the jury gave her awarded her $3 million. >> she was part of the three-way, the wife. >> bill: no, no, no no. >> oh! >> bill: the three-way -- >> it was another random woman. >> bill: another woman and a buddy of his. and in the middle of that he -- so we're going to ask joe cirincione what he thinks about this when he gets here. one of these times.

finally -- oh, look who's here! >> i'm very sorry for being late. >> bill: head of the ploughshares fund. was she guilty or not? [ laughter ] >> no! no. not until she's proven. i don't have any idea what you're talking about. >> bill: what a political answer. shall we tell joe the facts here? >> you might as well. >> bill: here's the facts. a cop. he's 31 years old down in georgia. he's got a little heart flutter or something. he goes to see the doctor. and then after having seen the doctor for his heart condition the doctor gave him some pills. he went off with a buddy of his and a -- an unnamed woman and they go to this motel and they engage in this wild three-way sex. >> why are you involving me in this joke? >> because you walked in. >> it is not a joke.

>> bill: during this three-way sex, the cop has a heart attack and dies. his widow sues the doctor saying the doctor should have warned him about strenuous activity like this and she won $3 million. they found the doctor guilty of not warning him not to have three-way sex. what do you think of that? >> astonishing! >> bill: isn't that the craziest thing you've ever heard. >> my doctor has never warned me about that. >> bill: of course the doctor is not guilty. i mean what about the person's responsibility for the activity. why didn't she sue the other guy and the woman they were with? right? or sue the motel. geez, the doctor? >> the poor doctor. >> bill: i've been waiting for a doctor to prescribe to me just more sex. >> you want to be a good patient. >> take that up with your wife.

>> bill: i always do what the doctor says. 11 minutes after the hour now. joe cirincione is here from the ploughshares fund. on more serious subjects, cyberwarfare but first -- >> i'm glad you got in just in time for that. >> thank you for involving me. >> other headlines making news on this tuesday. british prime minister david cameron's parenting skills took a public lashing yesterday after news broke he and his wife left their 8-year-old daughter in a pub after lunch with friends a few months ago. abc news reports daughter nancy went to the bathroom at the conclusion of the meal in this restaurant. the camerons left at that time in separate cars, each assuming the other parent had the child with them in their car. the public criticism yesterday was fueled just weeks after the british government set up a program to teach parents how to raise young children. [ laughter ] >> happy father's day! >> bill: peter leaves his kids behind all the time. >> especially in bars.

>> bill: he's hoping nobody would return them. >> sports history was made at the stanley cup finals. the los angeles kings are nhl champions for the first time in their 45-year history. the kings lost the last two games. >> bill: congratulations to the kings. >> america's favorite oldest actress visited the white house yesterday. politico reporting 90-year-old betty white met with the president and took a tour of the executive mansion and also got some face time with dog bo. >> bill: did she play football? >> i don't think they play tackle on the south lawn. >> bill: i wasn't down at the white house yesterday. i missed betty white. try bad. joe cirincione, "the new york times" has reported that the

united states government is involved in cyberwarfare, a program called stuck net. the aim of which is to infiltrate, penetrate, the computers driving iran's nuclear program and shutting them down basically. now, there are two questions. everybody seems obsessed with who leaked this to "the new york times." i'm more interested in are we really doing this? and should we be doing this and what's this all about? >> well, the debate over the leaking is clearly political. all administrations leak at some point. the bush administration leaked like a sieve. the people objecting to this say the leaks make president obama look good, look tough which i think was part of the purpose of the leaks. so, they're going after him. i think the lead controversy will die out. the bigger controversy on this cyberwarfare is going to be with us for quite some time. we crossed the rube corn with this latest cyberweapon.

the stuck net virus didn't just infect a computer system and steal information. there's lots of viruses out there that do this. this one actually took over hardware so it took over control of, in this case, centrifuges and crashed them destroyed them. this is the first time in the history of this kind of cyberspace or cyberwarfare activity that a -- an operator in another country in another locale has been able to take over the computer system of another nation and destroy machinery as a result. >> bill: we know we did that? >> it is almost certain we did. nobody's actually denying it. all of the evidence indicates it was a joint u.s. israeli operation directed against iran. >> bill: developed by the air force? >> it looks like it was developed by the c.i.a. but we don't really know the development. the united states is beginning to stand up rather far-flung

cybercommand. cyberinfrastructure. we actually have now a cybercommand. we just stood up an air force unit called the 24th air force unit publicly available information that has about 7,000 personnel involved in it. in 24-hour, around-the-clock cyberwarfare operations. we are definitely doing this. other countries at least six or seven other countries that also have cybercommands china, russia iran also. so, there is a real cyberwar now waging. >> bill: so the question then is -- seems to me again, not who leaked this information but if the united states -- if our goal is to stop iran from getting nuclear weapon and they're not cooperating, of course they won't let their inspectors in or books or whatever and we can in effect achieve our goal, prevent their developing nuclear weapon without bombing them, without sending in the marines without

starting world war iii, just with a computer virus why not? >> why not. in fact, when i first heard about this, i was enthusiastic about it. i said it was part of the obama successful obama strategy to isolate sanction and sabotage the iranian nuclear program which has worked. so this is the -- the good news here. this program is actually set back the iranian nuclear program. the iranian nuclear clock is moving forward, ticking much more slowly than it would have been. it is only when you start to realize what the implications are that you have cross adeline that others will cross as well. you have justified the united states and israel have now justified this kind of attack and we are much more vulnerable to these kinds of attacks than iran is which large parts of iran are effectively off the grid. almost everything we do, almost everybody in our country is connected to computers one way or the other. whether it is atm machines or

the electric grid or the stock market. you know, we're very vulnerable to this kind of warfare. so what's to say that another country can't use this kind of attack on us, citing our attack on iran has precedent? >> bill: they could come in, for example, you mention the market. >> yeah. >> bill: we saw what happened with the computer glitch with facebook when facebook went public. nasdaq goes down right? they didn't know what was happening with the trades. that was minor compared to this. they could shut down all of the markets, right? >> now yes. and in fact, the markets get attacked almost every day. there were people trying to do this. we get thousands of cyberattacks on u.s. systems and they're very elaborate cyberwar defense mechanisms put in place by the pentagon, by the financial institutions. one of these days though, it is likely that an attacker will succeed. >> bill: should the united states be at this cyberwarfare

1-866-55-press. don't drones fit into the same category in a sense in that -- we're looking at the future of warfare. aren't we? let me give you two quick examples of what we're looking at. remote controlled, nonengagement, no direct engagement. it is all remote-controlled, viral, long distance warfare. >> this is starting to get very matrix-like. machines operating at a distance on humans. so there's a company that's developed something they call the nano hummingbird. it is a drone about the size of a aa battery. it can light on your window sill and take videos. on the one hand, that's really cool if you saw it in a spy movie. very very tiny machine. aa battery. that can capture -- video

capture activity. now, if you see -- if you saw that in a movie, what if it is on your window sill? what if it happened to this cop the person of your joke. >> bill: it is not a joke. it happened! >> whatever happens to you or another example, we know that president clinton and president george w. bush turned down cyberwarfare requests to go drain the bank accounts of iranian officials. to go in and take the money out. again, the way you would see in a movie, all of a sudden the digits turn to zeros and the money is gone because they thought of the blowback. this could happen and we're much more vulnerable. but that kind of activity is out there. that kind of draining bank accounts, moving money around. it is now possible and people are trying to do it. >> bill: how do you fight a cyberwar? >> well, the u.s., you actually make this a military operation which is the other part of this.

this is all becoming militarized. the military is doing this. not just the c.i.a. or the national security. the 24th air force. the newest numbered air force in the u.s. is a cybercommand. which also raises legitimate civil liberties questions about well, what's their influence or what's their jurisdiction over american citizens or domestic activity. same with the drones. there is now a push. congress is pushing it to have the drones be used for police operations. >> bill: yeah. >> it is a big push to make this available. >> bill: police departments are signing up for them right now. >> libertarian groups are starting to raise the alarm about this. i'm fairly sympathetic to this. there was just a drone accident down here in maryland. by a navy base. >> bill: salsbury, maryland. >> i'm not sure what the drone

was doing. >> bill: what was it doing on the eastern shore? >> was it practicing -- had it been used in combat operations in afghanistan but it was now here and they were practicing, using, i don't know. no explanation. >> bill: i don't know. all i know is that dick cheney has a ranch on the eastern shore so i suspect cheney was involved. this is important stuff. cyber warfare. what does it all mean? should we be at it? where's it going? we're talking with joe cirincione from the ploughshares fund. plowingshares.org. plowingshares.org. it is idiotic! totally. judd legum here from think progress. covering the ballpark from voter purge in florida to what might happen to healthcare in the supreme court. i had an interesting conversation with supreme

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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: joe cirincione is our guest from the ploughshares fund on the "full court press." joe, never have enough time. only a couple of minutes left. we were talking cyber warfare. based on the story from "the new york times" that the united states has engaged in it successfully, it appears against iran's nuclear weapons program. where is this all going joe? >> there is a new generation of the cyber warfare just been detected, a program called flame. apparently designed by the same people who did a bigger program. several tens of megabytes that infected iranian systems but is spreading to other computers. very interesting. it doesn't disrupt the computers. it just absorbs information. not only from the computer. it can use blue trot technology

to tap into nearby blackberries for example and dump and gather all of the information photos address books, stuff like that. so it becomes -- all of a sudden computers look a lot more sinister than they do when apple is showing off the wonderful things we can do with computers. >> bill: but it looks like the future of our nation now is not going to be in these brave warriors who go out and get their physical training and so tough. it is going to be computer geeks. >> increasingly, national security analysts turn to this threat. steven coe has a great article on it. richard clark has written a new book called cyber warfare the next threat to american national security. people are taking this very seriously. >> bill: i guess you know my feeling, too, is if there is going to be cyber warfare, i want to be at the front lines and i want to win but i also want to do it right. that's the question. we don't have any rules for cyber warfare yet. >> we don't. as we engage in these, it is

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eliot spitzer will be our guest every wednesday morning. debuting tomorrow morning just talking news with the great governor eliot spitzer, host of the viewpoint of course. at 8:00 p.m. east coast time on current tv every evening. that will be fun to talk about the news of the day with eliot spitzer. certainly one of the things we'll want to talk to him about tomorrow is mitt romney doubling down in the romney campaign doubling down they say he didn't gaffe. he really meant it. that's what the american people want. they say. when mitt romney says the message, the lesson of wisconsin is we need fewer cops, fewer teachers and fewer firefighters on the job. is that what the american people really want? we want to turn the general president of the international association of firefighters mr. harold schaitberger joining us on our news line. harold, good to talk to you this

morning. >> bill, good morning. thanks for having me on your show. >> bill: been awhile since we've seen each other. >> it has been. >> bill: good to reconnect here. so what's up with mitt romney? do you hear demands from cities and counties we've gotta fire a lot of the firefighters, we don't need them on the job anymore, huh? >> i'll tell you what we don't hear it from the citizens who depend on the critical services that are provided by firefighters, cops and certainly those that depend on their children's education teachers. bill, you mentioned in your lead-in that the romney campaign was doubling down and that it wasn't a gaffe. i have to tell you i agree with them. what he said didn't surprise me at all. i don't believe it was a gaffe. i believe it was exactly how mitt romney views the world. and views the need in trying to number one, provide good, middle

class jobs during a very tough economic time and those firefighters that stay at work and cops and teachers, you know are -- goods and services and feed their families and help to drive an economy. but more importantly it is about what kind of service does this provide to a community that depends on their public safety, fire and police to provide that kind of service. and i just find it incredible that you know, mitt romney doesn't understand what really happens in your typical neighborhoods. and what's happening when this economy has been under duress. because the fact of the matter is that when the economy is weak and people have been out of jobs, that the call volume and

the experience of fires buildings vacated catch on fire. elderly, less capable to provide for their heating during the winter using unsafe heating devices, actually the need for public safety for firefighters and the neighborhoods is at its highest when our economy is sometimes most struggling. so he just has no real view and understanding of the world and his record as a governor shows that. i mean when he was governor, he cut local aid through massachusetts -- throughout massachusetts which put cities and municipalities under great pressure. and then forced to lose jobs, firefighters, cops teachers. and so this is to me, just a clear view of the world that he's showing. >> bill: isn't it also true, president schaitberger that around the country, as a result

of the crash of 2008 and when -- particularly after the stimulus funds ran out, there have already been pretty severe cuts to fire departments and police departments and of course, to teachers around the country. >> well, there's no question. the pressure on public services has been tremendous. and the job losses have been significant. and bill, i'll give you another real understanding of romney's view of his disdain i guess i would say for the incredible service that firefighters cops, certainly teachers provide to our communities. you know during this tough economic time, the president was able to put in his budget and to support the grant program that you may be familiar with that has been in place for the last two years that is helping

communities to bring back some of those firefighters laid off. and to fill those rides, we call them on those rigs that had been lost through attrition. governor romney openly opposed this program as he did the auto stimulus and the fact of the matter is that massachusetts through the program and the president's support, has been able to put firefighters back to work in fall river, in lawrence in new bedford, worcester all across his own state. not only firefighters going back to work and having good, middle class jobs and spending and helping this economy to grow. but providing the services that those neighborhoods, those communities and those citizens expect when they experience their worst of times. >> bill: we're talking with harold schaitberger, the general president of the international association of firefighters. you can find out more about

their program, their great work and also their involvement in this 2012 election season by going to the web site at iaff.org. president schaitberger, they say the lesson of wisconsin is that americans think we don't need as many firefighters teachers and police officers on the job. what do you think is the message of wisconsin? i know your people were active there and we didn't get the result that we wanted. what does that tell the american people? what can you tell us? >> bill: -- >> bill, obviously i don't agree with that and i'll tell you why. i believe part of the lesson of wisconsin was an electorate that had faced seven elections in a 16-month period. i think there was a lot of just simple campaign and election fatigue. i do believe that that is a factor. but let me flip it over to ohio. because ohio, who face at very

similar situation with john kasich and his -- when it went to the people, when the people were allowed to vote on what they wanted -- whether they wanted to support their firefighters and cops and teachers, by 62% to 38% they overwhelmingly expressed that support. you know, the people get confused. i understand we really understand the economic pressures that this country has been facing. and certainly our union and our members and leadership, the firefighters, 300,000 across this country, i'm proud to represent, have been doing their part to try to make sure that we help to bring solutions if you will, to the table. and we participated in finding ways to try to take some of the pressure off the communities. but bill, fire fighting is still simply a labor-intensive job. you have to crawl down the hallway to make the rescue.

you gotta make the extrication out of that car that's been in a severe crash. you're trying to respond to the elderly that's having -- you know, a heart attack in a home. there aren't machines really that can respond and do this. this still takes people. this takes labor. and it takes the right number of crews on a rig to be able to go in and do this work that our citizens expect. you ask the citizens in the neighborhoods whatever their demographics are, they're going to tell you that when they're in their tough times, when they're experiencing sometimes the worst moment in their life, what they really expect their government to be able to provide, the critical and essential services that our government was fundamentally founded on. providing for the people. so i just think mitt romney has a very skewed view of the world and obviously has not had to

really experience the kind of drama and the expectations of the people when it comes to firefighters, cops and certainly our children's education. >> bill: it seems to me that what romney is trying to do is take what john kasich started in ohio, what scott walker started in wisconsin, rick scott in florida and other governors and take that nationwide by his comments the other day you know in terms of a real war on public employees. so president schaitberger -- >> bill, i have to say, i find it so cynical that the likes of the rick scotts and scott walkers and john kasichs and mitt romney is that they are playing on the genuine pain and fear and frustration and yes anger that citizens in our country have been experiencing

over these last few very, very tough years. they've taken that frustration and anger and pain and they're using it in such a cynical way to advance, you know, such a right wing extreme view of the world. >> bill: totally. >> part of that is to remove us off the playing field. >> bill: and directing that against the very people that we depend on, police officers firefighters and teachers for such great service in our communities. president schaitberger, you're leading the fight against those forces of evil. doing the lord's work as far as i'm concerned. we're totally 100% behind you. thank you so much for joining us this morning and again folks you can check out the good work at iaff.org. president schaitberger, talk to you again soon. >> i look forward to it, bill. >> bill: thanks. there he is. it is a war on public employees. that's the way mitt romney thinks he's going to win but i gotta tell you, if he's taking on cops and firefighters and teachers, which he is, i think

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behar. joy behar, the latest to join the current tv line-up how exciting. she'll start her own show in the fall at 6:00 p.m. eastern. in the meantime, she'll be filling in for eliot spitzer next week on "the viewpoint" at 8:00 p.m. eastern 7:00 central every day of the week. great to have joy behar, good friend of our show, in fact she's joining us when? next monday? >> working on it. >> bill: great to have her part of the current tv line-up. so question about how much extra money you might need at the end of the month. i'm sure you've been struggling -- a lot of you struggling with that question. here's maybe the answer. it's sign up with folks -- friends rather at incomeathome.com. they are america's leading work from home business. and this is something with their help that you can do. no matter your age education or experience. you can literally be earning money from your kitchen table

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women voters not the boy scouts, the kkk. they say that they -- all they want to do is adopt a highway and for people to throw trash out on the side of the road, that ain't right! right, peter? that just ain't right. >> we don't like this one bit. we need to have our own stretch. >> bill: you keep your trash off our stretch. the state of georgia is going to meet to consider that request. come on! come on! no way no how should the kkk -- that's all that georgia needs is to have people driving through and say oh, this stretch of highway brought to you by the kkk. as long as you're white, you can drive on it. >> i will say we had an e-mailer earlier who e-mailed us at billpressshow.com and said if they're advertising this is their stretch of the highway now we know where to dump all of our trash. >> bill: that's the only part i like. >> that might have swayed me. >> bill: load it up from all

over the country and take it. other favorite story of the day, people said i was unpatriotic. all i said last week was that it would be a good idea to replace the star-spangled banner. replace it with god bless america or maybe america the beautiful. either one. michele bachmann, she's gone a lot further than that. michele bachmann has trashed the american flag! she's dumped the american flag! go down to the capitol building right down the street from us. outside of her office, there's no american flag. and there's no state of minnesota flag. she's got the tea party flag outside of her office. every other member of congress, every other united states senator, i go down there all the time, outside of every door in the house office buildings and the senate office buildings is either the american flag or the state flag that they represent or both. not michele bachmann. she has replaced it with a tea party flag. i ask you, isn't it a lot more

unpatriotic to trash the american flag than it is to suggest that we be better off with a new national anthem? you're damn right it is. so why isn't -- where are they? where's sean hannity and bill o'reilly? where's michelle the people that accuse me of being a traitor. why aren't they out there taking on michele bachmann. that's what i want to know. why not? she's trashed the american flag. all i did was say let's dump the star-spangled banner for god bless america. >> that's way worse. way worse. hers is way worse. >> bill: there's the proof that i am a pitryiot -- patriot and michele bachmann is not. i'll be back with a parting shot. >> announcer: radio meets television. the "bill press show." now on current tv.

admitted that that look, we were able to keep a lot of the folks because of the stimulus. >> bill: absolutely. again, do you great work, judd. thank you. all of your colleagues at think progress. we'll see you again next it doesn't matter who you are. she was trying to be cool. she walks in, bonus, bonus bonus, bonus. [ screaming ] by the way in heels, the same height. [ applause ] >> wow. >> stephanie: she's awesome. as is john fuglesang. thank you, boston.

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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> >> announcer: the parting shot with bill press. this is the "bill press show." >> bill: on this tuesday, june 12, my quick parting shot for today, people in washington have a fascination with leaks. first of all, they love leaks. the bigger, the more scandalous, the better. they get off on leaks. at the same time, they hate leaks because they don't like cheaters and they're always quick to demand an investigation. let's find out who did the leaking and prosecute them which is what's going on with this big flap about a story in "the new york times" which revealed the united states government, pardon me, is involved in cyber

warfare. to infect those computers that drive iran's nuclear weapons program. but as usual, i think washington's missing the point. the question is not who leaked the documents and who leaked the news but should we be doing this in the first place. if you ask me, my answer is damn right. if we can stop iran from building nuclear weapons without bombing the country or without sending in the marines then i am all for it! i don't care who leaked the news. that's my parting shot for today. great line-up for you tomorrow. eliot spitzer will be joining us as well as sister simone campbell, one of the nuns at the vatican is out to shout out. ryan grimm from "huffington post" will be here as well. comedian liz winstead has a new book out. she'll be joining us on thursday morning and current tv's joy behar next monday. so have a great day! come back and see us tomorrow.

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