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requirement sthan we thought. legendary coach joe paterno, turns out he knew about jerry sandusky. maybe it's time to tear down the statue on the penn state campus. don't you think? today's current news update standing by was a ferguson -- lisa ferguson. >> the two campaigns continue to trade jabs over mitt romney's time at bain capital of there is a lot of back and forth here we are going to break this down for you. first off, you might remember, last month the obama campaign released this ad: >> the washington post has just revealed that romney's companies were pine easier of shipping u.s. jobs overseas. >> romney's campaign has rejected those claims and yesterday came out with an ad of their own called "no evidence". >> when a president doesn't tell

the truth, how can we trust him to lead? the obama outsourcing attacks misleading, unfair and untrue. >> you might notice both of those ads site articles from the washington post that were both published on the same day. one saying bain capital invested in companies that shift jobs overseas. the others saying the president's outsourcing attacks are unfair and untrue. so what's the deal here? did romney shift jobs overseas? or didn't he? well, now the question is: when did romney really leave bain capital? much of theous sourcing happened after 1999 when romney says he left to run the olympics but according to a new boston globe report romney's sec reports list him until 2002. his camp insists he left in 99. that quo mean he lied on his sec forms. that's a felony. his campaign asked the globe to correct the question. the groen said no.

we will have to wait as the facts come out. join us in chat current.com/bill press. we have a big, big hour and the i.q. will go way up. how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. >>you just think there is no low they won't go to. oh, no. if al gore's watching today...

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halle ♪ hallelujah ♪ >> are we supposed to have still triskadecophobia. >> i never did? >> it's just another friday for me. >> yeah. >> some people, i think -- listen. i am living it up pretty wildly. i am taking a plane. i am not afraid of july 13th. >> whoa. >> don't walk under any ladders or look at any cats. >> black cats? >> yeah. >> is that it? may be. i don't know. whatever it is, have a good friday. enjoy it. every friday is good friday as far as we are concerned. we got lots to talk about on the full-court press coming to you live all the way across this great land of ours, coast to coast starting out from capitol hill in washington, d.c., right in the heart of the, we are. so good to see you today. >> where they happen to be in our nation's capitol around the country, around the globe and then we will certainly leave room for you to join the

conversation. give us a call at 866-5--press. so good to see you this morning and to say hello to team press, peter ogburn and dan henning. hello, guys. >> happy friday. >> cyprian has the day off. monte is filling off. a big wave from monte. all right. we got it down. we raised a lot of hell yesterday, of course about the news that the u.s. team team ousts olympic uniforms designed by ralph lauren or somebody told me it should be ralph lauren. >> i was told it was ralph lauren. everybody knows who you talk about when you say ralph lauren but it's ralph lauren apparently. >> paifrnlth. my friends said laurenapparently. my friends said lauren? >> his son is loren and his son's wife is loren bush lauren i think. >> he designed the uniforms.

the big problem with them is they are made in china, which is outrageous. so after our show yesterday he must have been watching, senate majority leader harry reid and had a good idea what to do with these uniforms. >> i am so upset that i think the olympic committee should be ashamed of themselves. i think they should be embarrassed, take all of the uniforms, put them in a big pile and burn them. >> burn them. >> that's what they do in nevada. burn, baby burn. wouldn't that be a great scene? >> totally. >> harry reid lighting a match. >> all right. here it is. so the parade right, before they -- they have all of the uniforms on and then they come up and they get in a big circle and they all take off their uniforms and throw them in the middle in a pile. >> perfect. >> and burn them. >> there you go. >> dance around them.

naked. >> the original olympics compete nude. >> exactly. it is a disgrace an outrage. have we seen any excuse as to why they did -- i mean i think it, it was ralph lauren, i am going to say -- i'm sorry -- who made this decision to have them made there rather than the united states. but why would the olympic committee -- what's the olympic committee's excuse for not stepping in and saying we want to be sure that everything is, you know, boom boom. >> i don't think there is an excuse. >> not a lot of excuses. >> i don't think there is an excuse either. i haven't heard them try to give one. >> no. >> outrageous. so i tell you one person -- another person raised hell about that is shari brown, the good senator from ohio is going to be here in studio with us a little bit later in the program. tom frank, also wrote the great book, "pity the billionaire" as will dillon buyers, media critic for politico. mitt romney, another big cloud over bain capital and mittance

himself but first: >> this is the full court press. >> on this friday, other headlines making news, hope stolo has opened up in the latest issue of espn magazine saying there is very much a fraternity atmosphere. they party hard and she admitted to appear okay nbc's today show when being honored for her 2008 gold medal. she had partied and put on her olympic jacket and showed up on time to the nbc studios, still ineastbound breiated. >> there are a lot of stories i have heard about the wild times that go on in the olympic village. >> yeah. >> i don't have a problem with as long as it doesn't interfere. >> as long as they win. as long as they keep scoring. >> so to speak. right. >> the city of baghdad is having

power problems. the iraqi capitol is having trouble providing reliable electricity so thef they have been asked to be patient. on billboards, they are using the face of katie couric. baghdad is using the american talk show image but she doesn't seem to mind. they have used ad campaigns and sued for doing so. >> i saw a picture of these billboards. i don't get it. >> she has a friendly face. they think it will sooth them. >> not in a burka, by the way. >> good point. >> baghdad has power problems. in other news, anderson cooper is gay. ooh. 50 years ago last night, a fledgling group of guys took to the stage of the marquis club in london. they got a decent response from the audiences and did a couple of more shows and started to get a huge following.

you know them as the rolling stones, celebrating 50 years and are i wanting at another tour. the group entered the rock and roll hall of fame in 1989. they have produced 22 studio albums and 11 live albums. >> unbelievable success of their band. their first hit, very first. >> yeah, come on. >> not their best known hit ♪ come on. ♪ >> they didn't have a lot of originals when they started. their first gig was mostly covers of old blues songs. >> really? >> the greatest rock and roll band of all times, the rolling stones. ♪ >> there we go. daniel, thank you. hey, mitt romney on the ropes again today today talking about -- over bain capital which gets worse and worse it seems to me. we know the first story about bain capital is in its time,

mitt romney was a job killing, not a job crater. >> that's the one issue that brought him down in 1994 when he was running against teddy kennedy for the united states senate up in massachusetts, and it's still a problem today because it's -- there is just not doubt about it. what bain was all about was making money for their investors, buying up companies spinning off parts of the company, trim ing it down making huge profits for the investors, but eventually shutting down for the most part most of the them shutting down after they had sold off what they could shutting down the business. workers losing their jobs or jobs -- and/or jobs shift overseas. and it's that record of bain cap capital which continues to dog mitt rom and he hasn't been able to shape in the obama campaign and has been making out a lot about that. part of romney's defense is -- here is the latest. part of romney's defense was

well, first of all, it's not true, he says and secondly, i was only at bain until 1999. and then i left in 1999, and i went off to run the olympics in salt lake city. well, new information has come out. and most of the this hit yesterday. it's on the part of good reporting by -- pardon me -- i have never done that ever on radio or television sneeze. >> there you go. >> i don't know. >> there is a first time for everything. >> usually when you sneeze, you have to do it like three or four times, so i am waiting for the next time. i hope not. i am very very sorry to sneeze in your ear. at any rate, good reporting on the part of david korn at mother jones. other reporters at talking points memo and reporters at the boston globe, they dugged into

some filings at the sec and they found out that mitt romney apparently did not leave bain capital in 1999. he didn't leave until 2002. documents filed with the sec during those three years list romney as, get this the chairman of the board, the ceo of the company the president of the company and the sole shareholder in the company. in other words, he owned the whole damn thing. ben leebolt of the obama campaign was on msnbc on "the ed show." a long clip here but listen carefully. he spells out what mitt romney was up to. >> he is holding himself to a double standard because he claims credit for jobs created

by these companies bain acquired, jobs that are created to date but he won't accept responsibility for transactions that he was involved with for companies that shift jobs overseas and went bankrupt with workers losing jobs and pensions and healthcare benefits. so he is furiously trying to extract himself for from these three years, 1999 through 2001. now, he was ceo, chairman of the aboved sole owner and sole shareholder. we are supposed to believe he didn't have any involvement with any of these companies? you know, a new report has emerged tonight in sworn testimony in 2002, romney said that he left salt lake to travel back to massachusetts to appear at board meetings. and so the suggestion that he is not involved in any of this, that he is legally responsible but not personally responsible simple isn't credible. >> romney capital have it both ways on this. so what do you think? do you think this matters? do you think this is as big deal? 866-55-press. let's talk about it. i will tell you why i think it's

a big deal because it gets right to the heart of credibility. it gets right to the heart of what have romney's credibility is. and if in fact i was there in charge until 2002, if, in fact he did not leave as he has been saying all of these years in 1999, and nobody has disputed the authenticity of these sec documents that have just come to light, so if all of that is true, it means three things t seems to me: number 1, it means that mitt romney as ben lebolt just indicated is responsible for what bain did during those three years. he is responsible for the jobs lost and the businesses shut down during those three years and he can't say, well, there are some bad things that happened happened, but they happened after i left because he had not left. i was there until 2002. so, number 1, he's got a responsibility. no. 2, if that's true, then it means that mitt romney has lied.

he has lied for years and years and years to the american people about his tenure at bain capital and how long i was there. he's been telling everybody he left in 1999. these documents seem to prove that that's not true. number 3, what this could mean -- i think we have to be careful here, but it could mean that romney has committed a felony. it is a federal offense. it's a felony to file false papers with the sec. so if he was not at bain and he said he was, if he represented himself as president and the documents are right there. nobody has disputed the documents. again, if he represented himself as chairman of the board, president, ceo, sole shareholder of bain during those three years, and that was not true then he was misrepresenting what bain was all about and, again, that's a felony.

so, i have got to tell you this is serious serious stuff. this is a lot more serious than the swift boat against john kerri and mitt romney is going to have to deal with it. so far all he said yesterday cvis, oh, how dare the obama campaign suggest that i committed a felony. >> that's not fair. >> that's just negative politics. no. no. mitt, we need to know the truth. what do you think? is this a big deal? could this bring down romney? could this unravel the whole thing? 866-55 press. 8665537377. you bet that is big deal. >> radio meets television the bill press shows, now on current tv. [ music ] (vo) find out on the gavin newsom show.

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>> heard around the country and seen on current tv this is the bill press show. >> how about it? the full court press here on friday july 13th. don't forget it's a lot of fun not just to watch the show, not just to listen to the show on your local progressive talk radio station or sirius xm this hour but to join our chat room and talk it up with other viewers on current and other listeners on progressive talk radio. go to current.com and just click on the chat room, jump in and you can talk about what we are talking about. now, we are talking about the latest, a big cloudloud now over mitt romney. when did he, in fact lead bain capital and what about these sec documents that seem to prove

that i was there three years longer than he says it was and has a lot more responsibility for businesses american businesses shut do you know and for workers fired and did he, in fact >> commit a felony. eric is calling from cincinnati ohio. a big deal or not? >> i think it's a big deal. you look on the this campaign and during president obama's presidency how the republican congress and how the senate and just the republican campaign has attacked him. and then in the same vein, attacked the highest lawman eric holder, to have mitt romney be proven to be a liar about something like that and the threat of felony charges, i think it's a such a big deal mitt romney either needs to come clean and admit where he went wrong or be prosecuted. >> i think he has to come clean.

i think you have a good point, eric. first of all, he has to come clean about his offshore investments and by releasing his tax returns. i think he has to come clean about bain capital by showing whatever evidence he has, proof that he has, that what they filed with the sec was incorrect and then, why did they file false documents with the sec. that gets to the -- that gets to the felony part of it as well. but so far, he hasn't come clean at eric. good point. he think he has to. i think the pressure is building. roberto in houston texas. roberto, what do you say? >> obviously, he has lived a privileged life all of his life. >> you bent. >> he thinks he can just get away with this. just think if he were president. anybody that would give him a campaign contribution, this would be a wild west as far as, you know, the financial structure in this country. it would be one of the worst

things that could ever happen. >> yeah. >> this guy feels like he can get away with anything. that will means anybody like him can get away with anything. >> sure. it would be total deregulation for anybody in the financial industry, in big business or whatever. they are the only people mitt romney cares about it. appreciate it. jay, from san sarnt savant a monica. >> good to hear you i think it's a adent for mitt romney but i think that the president, somebody in his administration needs to jump all over this thing right away and take them to the wood shed on it because i think if they let this thing drag out, try to make it an october surprise, fog is going to happen. >> yeah. the wheels of the legal establishment move pretty slowly. >> jay, good point. i have to tell you. i think they were all over this yesterday. the obama campaign was really out there very very strong on

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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> this is the bill press show live on your radio and current tv. >> thirty-three minutes after the hour on friday july 13th. back on the big stories of the day. we have been talking so far this morning about the latest. we don't no what all this means but it looks like mitt romney a big fat lie, the latest documents unveiled from the sec show that romney was maybe around there as chairman action

president, seo until 2002. what's that all mean? the other big story of the day, imagine, the lead story in "the new york times" on the front page and the front page story as well on the washington post about the penn state report that came out yesterday. the result of the investigation conducted by former fbi director louie freese. jenna johnson joining us on the news line this morning. >> good morning. >> what did louis freese tell u.s. >> a lot. this is a long long report. but it's very critical. what he said was that there were four people who did the wrong thing. he named names. he gave a lot of documents.

a lot of times on these reports, the people investigating will give, you know, a lot of time lines, a lot of facts a lot of documents but they won't really connect those things together and say what this all means. from freese did that. he said the four most powerful men at penn state, the university president, the football coach, the vice president who oversaw operation of the universities and the athletic director knew about two incidents involving young naked boys in a shower with jerry sandusky and not only did they not try to identify who those boys were. they actively concealed information about this incident. and, you know, he points out a lot of reasons why they might have done that that they might have been avoiding bad publicity, not wanting to tarnish the football program. you know, but the big finding was, you know, those are the

four people who are most responsible. >> so, in fact, i want to play a quick clip from louis freeh where you talked about some of the janitors even had seen this. >> correct. >> one of the reasons the janitors who were not part of the hierarchy, of course, but not even the janitors would report it or talk about it because -- here is louis freeh. >> this is best reflected by the janitor's decision not to report sandusky's sandusky's horrific assault of a young boy in the building shower. the janitors were afraid of being fired for reporting a powerful football coach. >> that speaks to the culture that was around, going on around there. right? >> exactly. >> they were afraid -- they were afraid they would get fired if they said anything critical of sandusky, even raise the issue. >> exactly. a co-worker of this janitor who saw that incident told

investigators, it would be like taking on the president of the united states. you know these were people who he couldn't question. these were people that couldn't criticize, you know, football is very important. we can't say or do anything. >> now as a result of this report, will there be any criminal charges filed or any any -- i mean, some -- paterno has died. sandusky is under -- i mean on trial, himself. about these other people most of them have resigned by now. haven't they from penn state? will there be any follow-up, any criminal charges? >> well, sandusky is behind bars right now. >> that's right. >> waiting for sentencing. so of the four men, as you said pat earno has passed away. two of the admin straightors, the vice president and the athletic director have been charged criminally. they were charged back in

november. >> okay. >> trial date -- >> i forgot that. >> they say they are innocent. they actually were not interviewed for this for court. they say that they are waiting for their day in court. that leaves the fourth one, the former university president, graham sanior. forced out. he is a guy in the higher ed world who is as big of a legend as joe paterno was. he was at penn state for 16 years. he was an outspoken advocate. people looked up to him and respected him. he has not been criminally charged yet. who knows? no information if that would happen or not. but all we have is the report saying, these four people are responsible. >> and this goes back, as i understand it of reading your story this morning to 1998 actually. >> yeah. >> a woman who complained about something happened to her son and this was something that was

a little investigation and paterno again, these guys knew knew all about this. right? and did nothing. >> so all we have is e-mails from that time. in interviews, pat earn 0 had said he did not know about that night. >> he told washington post that. >> exactly. >> days before he died. >> yeah. >> he told the post that he knew nothing of it at all. >> let me -- jen let me interrupt you a second for our viewers and listeners, the post reports that paterno told sally jenkins of the post, quote, you know, it wasn't like it was something everybody in the building knew about. nobody knew about it. i mean he was lying. the great joe paterno. right? >> that's what sally said in her column today. >> yeah. i mean it's just unbelievable. you know, i must say that the parallels to the catholic church priest abuse scandal. right? with the bishops covering it up

and they knew about it and did nothing, it's a pretty striking care legal for me. jenna, have you -- paterno was certainly, i mean more than any of us realized such a revered figure at penn state and they actually put up this big statue to him outside the athletic building in penn state. do you think that's going to last? do you think that's going to stand? do you think they could possibly leave that there? what do you hear? >> well, that's the big question right now. and people are very divided on that. you have people saying, you know, this is a man who did great things for penn state, you know, who also made mistakes and there are other people saying this mistake outweighs all of the great things that he did. and that's something penn state is going to have to find. they are going to have to figure out what side they come down on,

on that. >> i know. i know. i don't know how they can get their reputation back if they don't do something pretty dramatic like that. anyhow, jenna, you make us proud. great reporting. good work. okay. and thank you. >> thank you. >> not only for good reporting but for getting up early and sharing it with us this morning. okay. thanks. we will talk to you again. >> have a good one. >> talk to you soon. the headline in "the new york times," "abuse inquiry damns paterno and penn state." and the headline in the washington post "freeh report lamp bifidus." the question is to you talking about this so muchasts." the question is to you, talking about this so much. when it came to light. now that we see the latest in this louis freeh report. penn state, would you send your kid there? wouldn't you take down the diplom? if you had it hanging on your wall in your law firm or doctor's office or something

like that. a lot of people would be ashamed to admit they went to penn state. do they get their rep take back? don't you think that the place to start is by tearing down this freaking statue to joe paterno for them to say, he did a lot of good and all of the good that he did outweighs this one little mistake he made. that reminds me of marion berry saying if you didn't count the murders, washington, d.c. would be a safe city. right? when he was mayor. peter, how do they leave that statue up? it's rights in the middle of the campus outside the athletic building. >> you can say joe paterno did a lot of good things and he did. i don't want to take that away. but all of that is overshadowed. >> john edwards did a lot of good things. i am not saying -- >> no. but when you screw up that big. >> yeah. that's what you are going to -- john edwards is going to be

remembered for that whole mess. right? >> yes. >> this is joe paterno. i think that knowing about it, we are talking about sexual abuse of young boys by his buddy, his coach. jerry sandusky knowing about it, not reporting it to authorities, not doing anything about it, that over shadows, outweighs all of the good that joe paterno did do during his career. what happens to penn state now? 866-55-press. you tell me. >> this is the bill press show.

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>> on your radio, on t.v. >> the bill press show new on current tv. >> bill myers, who is the media critic for politico will be joining us in studio at the top of the next hour. then we will be talking to josh marshal from talking points memo, one of the reporters who uncovered these new sec filings. not new. the sec filings new to us that prove that mitt -- seem to prove mitt romney was at bain capital three years longer than he has always said he was. this horrific story that has resurfaced because lou isn't. freeh has found out exactly what was going on. he doesn't pull punches. pat earn 0, janet johnson was

telling us four people including paterno, the "new york times" times", knew about it for years, for deckadesdecades, knew what san dusky was up to, new people were investigating it, internally, never we want to authorities. there was such a culture of fear around penn state that nobody would dare talk to authorities because because they thought they would get fired if anybody raised questions about joe paterno's pet, jerry sandusk. >> thank you for the time. >> pretty disgusting stuff. >> in light of such a horrific event where it could be so easy for everybody to let this thing end with the conviction of jerry sandusky. it's a great think louis freeh comes in t joe paterno being raised to the level of diety,

they could have said, he is dead. let's not besmirch his reputation but louis freeh will hold his feet to the fire. it's important that it was pretty wide spread: he named the names including pattern 0, a lot of people wouldn't touch. do you think they can get the reputation back absolutely not. i think the next few decades, they are going to be irrelevant. >> i think they will have to take pretty dramatic action. i think a stick of dynamite alongside the patterno statue would start. >> school programs, you know they get fined or cheated. nothing as bad as this.

>> 10, 15 years and they haven't recovered. everybody remembers it. he will be a very, very very long time before anybody equates penn state with something other than this scandal. >> speaking of penn state, here is john from state college, pennsylvania, there on the scene. hey, john. what do you say? >> good morning, bill. let's not forget our governor, tom corbett who was the attorney general at the time. edit political aspirations, running for governor and the local district attorney got out of the picture and turned it over who was under the control of tom corbett. >> yeah. what did core benefit do? >> he sat on it. he sat on it after he got elected governor they intensified the investigation. while he was still the attorney general, very little happened. there was very little movement on the case. >> that's a good point. i haven't heard anybody talk about it. if core benefit better was out yesterday. he has been pretty vocal, since

you say, since he has been governor. yesterday, he was saying piteder we have that clip of the governor yesterday. >> there are monsters among us that there are people who will hurt children for their own sexual gratification and that we do have to report. we do have to follow up. so what you are saying john, is that's not the song he was singing when he was attorney general? >> no. when he was attorney general, he drug his feet on it. there was not a lot of movement. they knew about it. as i said, the local district attorney, he kind of faded out of the picture. it was turned over to the state's attorney who was am the control of tom core benefit, attorney general at the time. >> john, i appreciate your call. corbett was probably afraid of joe paterno, too.

good morning. i have a hypothetical here because i didn't go to school there but if i had a degree in electrical engineering which is what i am, an electrical engineer and i earned it there, even though you said people might be embarrassed, i wouldn't be. i earned my degree and have -- i would have -- >> yeah. >> no knowledge of this at all. >> how about if you were in the sports program there? >> well, the supports is a little bit different. how many people in sports versus how many people are in the other parts of the university? >> but you know, unfortunately bob, you are right. you are right. small percentage. but they rule. the sports programs rule almost every campus. >> that has to do with alumni giving money. >> sure. sure. >> fundraising and stuff. >> and money that the sports events bring into the campus, too. right? >> there is a lot financial thing but if i earned a degree

from there i wouldn't take it down because i worked hard to get that thing. >> i think, bob, some of the stink, some of the stink would even fred to other -- that's the problem -- pred to other departments because it's not just penn state football. it's penn state. headline again in "the new york times," "abuse scandal inquiry damns paterno and penn state." all of it. penn state without distinction. i don't know how they get it back. >> this is the bill press show live on your radio and current tv tv.

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president going down first to virginia beach, virginia delivering remarks at a vision for virginia's middle class event in virginia beach. then he does a similar message later on hampton, virginia late this afternoon. you know, there are going to be a couple of unscheduled stops in there. ought if you are anywhere in that area, check out your local bakery or ice cream shop and the big bus may stop in. then finally, the president ends the day in roanoke, virginia at about 7:30 tonight, getting back to the white house about 9:30 this evening. president obama on the road and carrying the message of jobs, jobs, jobs and the economy to all of the swing states, ohio and pennsylvania last week virginia today and tomorrow. it's a full court press on friday july 13th. snared sherrod brown in the next

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theme theme welcome on july 13th, here on current tv your new progressive morning show. good to have you with us today. i am bill press. liberal and proud of it. we'll cover the big stories of the day, including this one, bad news out of penn state. it turns out in the latest report issued by louism s freeh that the legendary coach was joe patterno knew about the fact

that jerry sandusky was abusing young boys in sports facilities and paterno did nothing about it. don't you think maybe it's time for penn state to tear down that statue of joe paterno on camp we will talk about that. we will go to los angeles appeared get the latest. today's current news update from lisa ferguson. hi, lisa. good morning. >> good morning, bill. good morning, everyone. there could be an eye witness to the killing of trayvon martin. a woman says she was lying in bed that night in february when she heard a commotion outside. she saw two men struggling on the ground and called the police. she also says she heard gunshots while she was on the phone with 9-1-1. theho woman has spoken with investigators. if they find her account credible, it will be the closest thing they have to an eye witness. much of what she said is still being kept secret. texas governor rick perry will campaign for mitt romney for the first time in iowa today. he will be at the campaign field offices in elko nevada.

yesterday, romney and with former vp dick cheney in wyoming when he they raised $4 million. cheney called romney the om man he would want leading the kraits country in a crisis like september 11th. president obama is trading jibes with romney. the new campaign calls the police department a liar. we know bain has invested in companies that shipped jobs overseas. now, the question is: when did romney leave the company? much of the outsourcing happened after 1999 when romney says he left to run the olympics. but as you heard on bill press just now tpn's john marshal says the filings list him as ceo until 2002. romney's camp insists he left in '99. that could mean he lied on his sec forms. >> that's a felony. he asked the boston globe to correct the story. the glory said no. we are more with bill after the

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this hour. good friend of the program and a great observer of the american economic economic/political scene author of the latest book, "pity the billionaire," thomas frank. >> great to be here. >> your earlier book "what's wrong with kansas"?" ? >> "what's the matter with kansas." same title. it's a long story. i will tell you some other time. do you want to hear that story? >> yeah. ? >> it comes from the title -- i didn't make up the title. it comes from a famous isessay from 1996 by a conservative, kansas was radical back then. he was like, what is going on here? >> what's the matter with kansas? >> yes. flip it. >> why the hell are these people -- still doing it -- voting against their own economic interests? >> that's right. that was his argument, too, but he was talking about the left back then. >> i didn't realize that? >> yeah. >> great book, and so is "pity

the billionaire." there is still a lot of pity for billionaires, particularly for mitt romney. thomas frank and our regular team, peter ogburn and dan henning. >> hey there. happy friday. >> happy friday. not all of our regular term. cyprian has the day off. monte is here as our videographer. we are well served in the video department as well. and thomas, i don't know whether you saw that. do you prefer tom or thomas? >> it doesn't matter. you can call me mad dog. >> that's cool. >> okay. mad dog. >> my debate nickname. we had debate names. >> mad dog frank on the radio. good morning everybody. >> did george bush give you that name? so i don't know if you caught up yesterday with the news that the uniforms for team u.s.a. at the

summer olympics have been designed by ralph lauren but made in china which is just disgusting? >> doesn't surprise me somehow. >> the u.s. olympic schmidt got lauren to design the uniforms and he gets money from selling uniforms, about a thousand bucks each. and then they put them up, you know, they can buy uniforms that you can walk around pretending you are a member of the olympics as well. he has his clothes made in china. >> unbelievable. if they had, he would have got them done in the marianna islands. >> tom delay. >> jack abramoff. >> right. harry reid yesterday, senate majority leader, he had a good idea. he had a good idea what to do about it. >> i am so upset that i think the olympic committee should be ashamed of themselves. i think they should be embarrassed. i think they should take all of

the arms put them in a big pile and burn them. >> like the burning of the books, burning of the uniforms. >> it is but it's like, you know, it's just become so commonplace nowadays that everything is made overseas, it's like it's hard to get people -- i remember when this first started, you know, and along the mexican border and horrible stories that would come out of there and, you know, the outsourcing, this is in the '80s. and today, people are just blaise about it. they think there is something sort of sophisticated about buying stuff from overseas. it's globalization or something. >> abc news has done a good job. they highlight companies and there are a lot of great clothing manufacturers in the united states. >> this is one of those.

>> one of the things we do. >> we could do anything here, you know. it depends upon how you organize the system and how you pay people and how, you know, frankly how tariff barriers are set up. we always say, you know, the sort of mantra that you hear, we are on capital hill literally here i can say you the mantra you hear here on capitol hill is that globalization is inevitable. labor just has to learn their new place in the world affairs. it's totally false. >> sure. >> we still protect all sorts of jobs in this country with tariff barriers and professional barriers and barriers of all kinds. but there are some jobs we have decided we would rather not protect and see you guys. >> thomas frank with us here in the studio. >> can i say i am happy you were able to say barriers and taifshz and didn't pull the george bush

routine where he said tear years and bariffs. he used to say tearier terriers and bariffs. >> if you can forget about the awful, awful stuff that went in those years, you can look back and say he was kind of a nice guy. i wrote wrote a whole book about the disasters of the bush era and i am even sort of falling for that. >> i think you have to give him a pass the. english was his second language. >> senator sherrod brown from ohio joining us a little later in the hour as well and we will get into it with tom frank but first -- >> mad dog. >> this is the full court press. >> other headlines making news elizabeth warren and scott brown running against each other other but there is one thing they shared together, the same wedding anniversary celebrated with respective spouses yesterday. according to the boston globe. he les beth warren has been married for 32 years.

scott brown for 26. warren sent brown a buoquet of flowers and she sent him chocolates from their home states. >> getting too cozy up there. the latest poll that i saw this morning on talking points memo 47/47. >> wow. >> good for elizabeth warren for an incumbent senator and a rock star like scott brown. >> in hollywood, tom crews' lawyer is threatening to sue the national inquiry. recent divorce related cover story that it said he abused and humiliated katie holmes with holly wood reporters saying it will cost his clients hundreds of millions of dollars. >> the national enquirer. >> that's right. >> awesome journalistic beacon. >> you can wake up after attending a wake a starbucks is

opening up in a funeral home in south carolina. abc news reports the robinson off and on recall home, chris robinson says having starbucks will help comfort the bereaved and helping some escape stress over a cup of coffee. >> how can you get enough -- i mean, how can you get enough business, walk-in business in a funeral home? >> they are not going to that one funeral home. >> he thinks it's a business model and he wants them to have frappuccino while they are crying over the coffin. >> serve them coffee. >> is there any way we can outsource that industry? the business model, you know, ship it overseas. >> i don't know about this. >> all right. now, pity the bill yon air, your latest book, it really gets

right down to reality. >> exactly. >> getting truer as we go along. >> that's my point. >> president obama is saying let's give 98% of americans a tax cut guyby extending it to the middle class. the cran official response led by mitt romney is, no no, no, no, no no. we can't give the middle class a tax cut unless the million airs and billion airs get one. >> here is some billionaire crying, boo hoo looking for himself, you know. it's so hard to run a business here in americahooing for himself, you know. it's so hard to run a business here in america. i am not rich enough. we have destroyed the power of labor much we have totally sacked the regulatory state. you know, we have these incredible tax cuts over the last 30 years but it's not enough. it's not enough. and i just on the train up here at the top of the esc lator a man handed me a copy of the dc examiner. i read it and read their

editorial page. it's a conservative local paper. sure enough, here is some billionaire, in this case, i believe it was the late steve jobs how hard it was to run a business in america. obama had to, you know cut regulations and my hard bled for the man. >> yeah. pity the bill yon air is really sort of the theme, the slogan. >> exactly right. it's kind of a businessman's crusade they are on. >> i don't know if you follow glenn beck any more. i am on his e-mail list. i get whatever he is up to. >> i am proud so say i do not. >> he was sort of in some ways the chief thinker of the tea party movement back in the hay day. the argument meant i made, what distinguished these guys was it was a small business movement. he is still beating this drum loud and proud. i think that's what we are going to see, this fall. this is a kind of entrepreneur's

crusade or a businessman's crusade. there is a lot of businessmen who don't have anything to do with this. who ought to know better than this. >> that's what this is. you know what the nfib is? federation of small business this is their crusade. >> i am probably one of the few people in addition to you. who know what it is. >> right. they are ant important character in "pity the billionaire." they are the ones who filed the supreme court lawsuit against obamacare. that was them. >> if you don't give the billionaires a tax cut you will kill jobs. they are the job creators. they say you are shutting down, if you don't give them a tax cut, you are shutting down small

business. that's right. >> koch brothers, by the definition in kansas. they just changed the law. unless i am getting facts wrong and i could be because i haven't been there for about a month but they got this enormouts, the state income tax in kansas no longer exists for small businesses the cokes don't have to pay the state income tax. if they take a few steps, you know, and sort of billed some legal entities to run their income through, which is very easy to do? >> president obama pointed out that under the definition of the sba, small business administration definition 97.3% of small businesses would get the tax cut under his tax plan because they make less than $250,000. the only ones who would have to pay more on their income over 250,000 are those that like the koch brothers. >> shuj companies. >> these big law firms or

something or whatever and they file as small businesses. it's a joke. thousands of employees and millions, billions of dollars in profits? >> this is a fascinating question. >> again it's the two % in both cases? >> and then this huge, you know grassroots army of small businessmen rallying to their side because they identify with them rather than with the democrats. now, that's a really interesting point. 100 years ago, small businesses -- in the roosevelt years, small businesses did identify with the democrats and the new deal. you know why? it's so ironic because the democrats were the party of anti-trust. and anti-trust was small businesses. i forget which supreme court justice said it was basically the magna carta of small business. this was their law breaking up big businesses making sure free markets existed, that you could compete, that sort of thing. and when the democrats, you know, turned their backs, this is, you know, anti-trust.

we invented it during the reagan years and then the democrats decided to go along with that. right? they are all enlightened now. they know about globalization, all of the things we were talking about earlier. they know better than to go down that road again and they completely -- they have nothing to appeal to these guys with. but once upon a time small business was part of the liberal coalition. there is no doubt about it. today, they totally identify with big business. >> thomas frankly, our guest. he is the author of a great book, pity the billionaire. looking online. >> tc frank.com. >> tc frank.com. one other big issue, a quick question as we take a break: do you know where your money is? and do you have a swiss bank account? >> well, i have my wallet in my pocket right here. is that what you meant? >> mitt romney says he doesn't know where his money is. i have some in the cayman

islands? i didn't know that. yeah. that's his defense. >> yeah. >> for the cayman islands and swiss bank accounts. >> he doesn't know where his cars are. he's got a couple of cadillacs or, you know, they are somewhere in the elevator got stuck with, you know, his mazzarati on it. >> if anybody knows, thomas frank knows why they feel compelled to have money in the cayman islands. you have a seat here at the table. 866-55 i have-press. full-court press on friday july 13th. >> this is the bill press show. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] (vo) find out on the gavin newsom show.

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>> terriers and bariffs everywhere are torn down. >> this is the bill press show >> a blaflt from the past. 26 minutes after the hour with senator sherrod brown from ohio joining us in studio in the next segment. we are talking with thomas frank who has given us two of the best political books ever, "what's the matter with kansas?" now with his latest book "pity the billionaire." before we go to our calls here, what about the -- all of the offshore investments of mitt romney? why would somebody have to feel that they have to park their money offshore? >> i am sure, you know, look, bill, you are asking the wrong guy. i am not an investment advisor. he has been running for president for a long time. you would think he would have -- >> yeah. >> you would have think he would have done something about it, moved it onshore or whatever it is that they call it.

i am just a little surprise. >> you open a swiss bank account because you don't want to pay taxes. >> a swiss bank account. >> that's such a billionaire thing to do. i am not going there. it's funny because the man's political ambitions, he has been running for office all his adult life. >> exactly? >> he knew this was going to be embarrassing. >> right. >> why not make sure everything you know is stateside as we might say. let's ahello to mike calling on the tax question from up in new jersey. hi, mike. >> good morning. >> how is chris christie treating you? >> there are a lot of things i like about chris. >> all right. we will move on then. >> what's your point about the tax cuts? >> they keep talking about these

income tax cuts for the rich because they are job creators like some kind of divine being but my point is there is an income tax break, money you have earned and get to keep. what it should be is an investment tax break so they have some kind of inseptembertive to create a job. >> an interesting idea. >> we are out of tile. we have to run along. senator brown is am coming in. you know, you are welcome back any time. >> thank you very much. >> will you be back monday? >> i am going to be on vacation bill. >> guess what. so am i. for one day only, though. thomas frank, "pity the billionaire" and it is td frank.com.

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when the president had a light schedule and we were wondering where he might head off to the joke among the press corp is that he is going to go to iraq or ohio because he seems -- >> two four letter words. >> different reasons for going to either place. this morning, got a little bit announcement, the president is going to be -- >> cincinnati on monday cincinnati on monday. i was there last thursday. we were there with him. >> sandusky my home county, we want on to akron and youngstown. >> in pennsylvania. >> yeah. he purposely -- it was interesting. >> what about ohio? >> it's obvious. >> romney can't win without ohio. i think president obama could lose ohio and still win the election. governor romney cannot win the election and lose ohio. ohio goes to the winner with two

exceptions. we want for the republican in 44 against rulings when there was a republican governor of ohio was on the ticket. in 1960, kennedy lost ohio and said i have never gotten so much applause and so few votes as in columbus, ohio. it's always been a state like that. ? that's interesting. i guess what you are saying is that the president is determined to deny romney that add vantage and also determined to win ohio. >> yeah. i think he is going to. >> first, he's got a great organization. my campaign is more, we have had it since february growing and working with the president. there is all that. i think so the auto rescue. 800,000 people are connected one way or another 800,000 out of 11 million people in the state. romney was on the wrong side of that.

it's not just the auto workers and the uaw members that win this election. it's the supplier crews and the uaw is the supply chain. often small town, the supply that you know, mitt romney doesn't understand what really happens in your typical neighborhoods. and what's happening when this economy has been under duress. because the fact of the matter is that when the economy is weak and people have been out of jobs, that the call volume and the experience of fires,

buildings vacated, catch on fire. elderly, less capable to provide for their heating during the winter using unsafe heating devices, actually the need for public safety for firefighters and the neighborhoods is at its highest when our economy is sometimes most struggling. so he just has no real view and understanding of the world and his record as a governor shows that. i mean when he was governor, he cut local aid through massachusetts -- throughout massachusetts which put cities and municipalities under great pressure. and then forced to lose jobs firefighters, cops teachers. and so this is to me, just a clear view of the world that he's showing. >> bill: isn't it also true, president schaitberger that around the country, as a result

of the crash of 2008 and when -- particularly after the stimulus funds ran out, there have already been pretty severe cuts to fire departments and police departments and, of course, to teachers around the country. >> well, there's no question. the pressure on public services has been tremendous. and the job losses have been significant. and bill, i'll give you another real understanding of romney's view of his disdain i guess i would say for the incredible service that firefighters, cops, certainly teachers provide to our communities. you know, during this tough economic time, the president was able to put in his budget and to support the grant program that you may be familiar with that has been in place for the last two years that is helping communities to bring back some of those firefighters laid off.

and to fill those rides, we call them on those rigs that had been lost through attrition. governor romney openly opposed this program as he did the auto stimulus and the fact of the matter is that massachusetts through the program and the president's support, has been able to put firefighters back to work in fall river, in lawrence, in new bedford, worcester, all across his own state. not only firefighters going back to work and having good, middle class jobs and spending and helping this economy to grow. but providing the services that those neighborhoods, those communities and those citizens expect when they experience their worst of times. >> bill: we're talking with harold schaitberger, the general president of the international association of firefighters. you can find out more about their program, their great work

and also their involvement in this 2012 election season by going to the web site at iaff.org. president schaitberger, they say the lesson of wisconsin is that americans think we don't need as many firefighters, teachers and police officers on the job. what do you think is the message of wisconsin? i know your people were active there and we didn't get the result that we wanted. people? what can you tell us? >> bill: -- >> bill, obviously i don't agree with that and i'll tell you why. i believe part of the lesson of wisconsin was an electorate that had faced seven elections in a 16-month period. i think there was a lot of just simple campaign and election fatigue. i do believe that that is a factor. but let me flip it over to ohio. because ohio, who face at very similar situation with john kasich and his -- when it went

to the people, when the people were allowed to vote on what they wanted -- whether they wanted to support their firefighters and cops and teachers, by 62% to 38%, they overwhelmingly expressed that support. you know, the people get confused. i understand we really understand the economic pressures that this country has been facing. and certainly our union and our members and leadership, the firefighters, 300,000 across this country, i'm proud to represent, have been doing their part to try to make sure that we help to bring solutions, if you will, to the table. and we participated in finding ways to try to take some of the pressure off the communities. but bill, fire fighting is still simply a labor-intensive job. you have to crawl down the hallway to make the rescue. you gotta make the extrication out of that car that's been in a

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>> announcer: this is the full court press, the bill press show, live on your radio, and on current tv. >> here we go it's 13 minutes now before the top of the hour covering the news of the -- the political us in of the day with senator brown from ohio up for a tough recollection battle out in ohio, and cross roads, karl rove -- >> they are there -- >> they are hot after you? >> they have been advertising in ohio since march a year ago. on the in november they picked it up. they spent so far more money against me than senator in the country, $10.5 million. karl rove just reserved $7 million more between now and the election. i'm a target one because of my progressive politics we don't know who the money is because

they don't have to disclose it, and through the way they do this they give the money to the chamber of commerce or the karl rove group, and we figure it is oil companies and banks because of my position on breaking up the largest banks, and big outsourcing companies and drug companies, and they can spend almost limitlessly -- in an unlimited way. we have a very good grassroots effort. we're going to beat them, but it will be hard. one of the things we're doing is organizing a grassroots effort against the whole citizens united. we have more than 200,000 people that have come to our website, signed up go on to our website, and we are building a grass

root's effort to take this on. we have a bill on the floor next week, the disclose act to begin to at least shine some light on this. again, we have got to get this kind of money out of politics. >> absolutely. and again, it gets back to the importance. people say it doesn't make any difference which party. >> yeah, biden was taking yesterday at the naacp, and one of the most focused times was when he kept saying imagine a romney supreme court for the next four years. if one or two particularly of the more progressive judges lees. >> you have got to wonder, senator, i had a conversation of two members of the supreme court both of whom said they thought it was important for the supreme court to reconsider citizens united because of the impact we have seen -- >> yeah.

they had a chance with the montana case and they wouldn't even listen. but i think they are dug in and we have never seen a court -- there was a liberal court in the warren days, and i think they did wonderful things for the country, but it was about politicized supreme court like this. from citizens united to the whole issue of corporate power, and corporate power and a weakening labor movement are all about wealth taking over the country. >> it's important that people all over the country recognize the importance of this race so if you want to help a good progressive united states senator stay there, how would you do it? >> go to our website, sign our

petition, you'll be on our list and we'll do a lot of grassroots and other things in this campaign. we beat this $20 million by the best internet and grass root efforts in the country. >> and also by contributions from all around the country too. so sign the petition and sign a check. let's take a quick look at bruce from right here in washington, d.c. hi, bruce. what do you say? >> how are you doing gentlemen? >> yes, sir. it's my first call on you since uncle dan shut your radio show down a couple of years ago. >> well, yeah. >> i want to give you something to think about, the two lls in willard mitt romney stand for lifetime liar. >> i think you are suggesting they use that phrase. i appreciate hearing from you bruce. when mitt romney says senator that he left bain capital in 1999, and yet there are

documents filed with the sec that he was there until 2002 -- >> yeah he slips positions. i -- i don't -- i don't know enough about him, but it just seems there are character issues when -- you know you said you would always become pro choice and then you become anti-choice, and you loved your health care bill that you signed and now your number one goal is to get rid of a look-alike health care bill for the whole country. his ambition trumps everything. eric one day back 30 years ago when he was doing his thing with cbs, he said what separate the men from the boys in politic is the boys want to be something, and the men want to do something, and, you know, mitt romney wants to be something and a lot of people in this business just want the title and whatever they stand for is a little bit incidental, and i don't know enough about governor

romney to know that but it seems there are some character issues on this. >> we know what you stand for and what your people stand for too. so we appreciate your leadership, and we're with you all the way in ohio. thank you for coming in. >> sherrodbrown.com go there for your support. >> thanks. thank very much. >> announcer: this is the bill press show. ♪ well, it starts with a healthy scalp. that's why i use head and shoulders for men. they're four shampoos for game-winning scalp protection and great looking hair... go on, please. hey joe? yeah? is this a bad time? no, i can talk. great -- it's the 9th inning and your hair still looks amazing. well, it starts with a healthy scalp.

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