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nt into effect opening the door for almost 2 million young undocumented immigrants to apply for temporary work permit and safety from the threat of depourtation for two years. while thousands stood in line to apply arizona governor january brewer decided to take advantage

of a political opportunity issuing an executive order even with work permit, individuals covered by the program would not be eligible for government benefits such as a driver's license, and the issuance of deferred action or deferred action uscis employment authorization documents to unlawfully present aliens does not confer upon them additional benefits. they did not require additional benefits. they left that up to the state's discretion. joining me, luis gutierrez thank you for joining me congressman. this was an outpouring of passion. tell us what it was like. >> every one of these young people came with their moms, their dads, their grandmothers. part of the reason why there were so many thousand it was a family event.

what a tribute to america and the american community that these young men and women don't stand alone. what was incredible. you didn't hear a single beef, right? i'll use that word. no one was griping. you had mom and dad that were getting nothing, right? you had aunts and uncles who were getting nothing. but they were happy that their nephews, their nieces, that their sons and daughters were finally going to get an opportunity to enter into legality in terms of their immigration status. it was wonderful to see the lines and the happiness and the emotion and the tears. he will rot, wheneliot, when was the last time that you saw people stand in line in chicago and elsewhere paying money to the government saying please, take my money. i'm happy to be part of this program. it was a happy experience and a very new one for mee scale of out pouring, the number of kids

eligible surpassed your expectation. >> this is what we did we and congressman dick durbin. ellis island. we have navy pier. boats docked and you could see the city. it was reminiscent of a hundred years ago when people would arrive in new york city. and you have these young immigrants, who are much more american than immigrants, but young immigrants who come in and apply like they did a hundred years ago saying please let me in and let me participate fully in your great american society. we have 5,000 pre-registered. okay, 5,000 are coming. that's a lot. look, you couldn't turn anyone away. so all day today we've been doing it. we have one at a high school, where they have hundred young people signed up. but you know what, that's what you're in public service.

isn't it a good day when you're in public service and everyone shows up in your office happy and content saying sign me up, and you can do it. our issue as elected official, how many times do we have to say no? and we can finely say yes. >> eliot: you're so right the metaphor of ellis island and the joy and creating that same senseon and patriotism right now saying to folks we're opening arms to you. >> we had a wonderful activity. mayor rahm emmanuel said, you call yourself dreamers. i welcome you as patriots to america. i couldn't have thought of better fitting words. unfortunately we have the governor of arizona. >> eliot: put that in context. it is so distressing but what do you make of that? >> here's what i make of it. look, history is going to be written, and you're going to be in columns. you're going to be in certain sections. this is our american history.

i mean, if we go back to the 1800s, we have people, those dirty, filthy, ignorant unamerican because they were catholic, the irish. first we said to the chinese. help us build the roads and you can only have a restaurant or do clothes. then we have the chinese exclusion act. think of the 1930s as our government had thousands and thousands and thousands of visas, and denied them to people that were trying to flee nazi germany. that happened. these things happened in our history. those are the sad moments. janet brewer, they're among the sad moments. then there are the great moments, laguardia and others who embraced immigrants and fought for immigrants and made america what it is today. look, unfortunately and sadly but i just want to say something

because i think it's very, very very important that we understand look, what she's trying to do is say oh, you can't get a benefit. nobody ever asked for a government benefit. they asked for the possibility to stay in this country and to work. but to deny them a driver's license to these young people, and you're going to get a work permit. if it's new york city or chicago, great. transit systems where people can get out. but young kids, i remember my daughter, i struggled when she was 17 years old. do i get her the driver's license? it's safer because sometimes she's out late at night. i want her behind the wheel of her own car. and some of these young kids. they're gonna have to go to work. nonobody asked for a government hand out. these kids are pay be $465. this program is totally funded with the receipts of the application fee, and not a dollar. they don't need a dollar.

you know what they need? they need an opportunity. shame on them in arizona. we got states like illinois. they'll get their driver's license. but here's the other thing. once they get their work permit and social security card, they're going to get their passport from their county of origin and they'll be able to get on an airplane. silly brewer. they'll be able to fly anywhere in the united states. but you won't allow them to make sure that your state coffers are increased by letting them get to and from work. >> eliot: it used to be eleanor roosevelt who would speak to the daughters of the revolution and address them and say fellow immigrant. every person here is an immigrant. everyone suffered discrimination when they got here. everyone is an immigrant. the always exciteable exciteable compassion nat luis gutierrez

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>> eliot: still to come, is just trust me already a good strategy mover forward? we'll debate. but first romney's son bicker. bill maher makes a point and some anchors forget they're on live television. when it doesn't fit anywhere else, we put it in the viewfinder. >> i think i was his favorite. sometimes dad would take me aside and say i don't play favorites but i love you the most. >> all we i heard from the news divisions is how thrilled they are to have paul ryan. now they can finally talk substance. when is that going to start happening? >> people think of him as hawk on the budget of expenses. he voted for tarp, the auto bailout and stimulus in '08.

>> 's practical'08. >> he's a practical conservative. but he's not a knuckle dragger. >> these people who are out of touch with ohio, barack obama waged a war on coal. they say coal is a four-letter word. >> you know what, they can help us by sending josh mandel to the state senate. >> find one area where they agree. i can't find one area. if he's the smartest member of the party and she's the stupidest woman on heart. >> do you watch that show, ben reminds me of that little girl with the boys haircut. >> i don't agree with the notion of 29-year-old too old and making money. [ bleep ] sorry guys. i was--i thought you going to.

>> listen, the only way to effect this is to-- >> you say that one more time. >> the ladies threw you in the water after winning the tradition in new york is that you throw them in the hudson river. >> which is different from our tradition. throw them on the other side the bus. >> the romney brothers stick together because the campaign tells us too. >> eliot: i guess etch-a-sketch dad. the race going off in in a different direction coming up next.

>> david: the gloves are off in the presidential campaign trail, but who will win from this surprising shift away from economic woes and towards social policy. paul ryan's a cinch for the republican ticket may not have played out as planned for mitt romney who has become

overshadowed by the medicare debate and his own taxes. can medicare messaging be a winning ticket to the white house for either side. here with me now to talk tactics on both sides of the campaign trail, basil and poreries from the mccain palin thank campaign. thank you for joining me. the candidates have stepped on multiple landmines. >> multiple. >> eliot: bouncing from one to the next. mistaken to me how you go from the debate about jobs and decide to talk about a medicare policy that is universally unpopular and you think you're making progress. >> you are making progress when you look at the polls. in florida you're doing better now than before paul ryan was put on the ticket. what paul ryan did for the ticket and what sarah palin did was excite the base.

ed medicare does that. that's why i say we are doing better in the polls. and we have a wider debate than just talking only by jobs. >> eliot: do you see the polls that way? >> no, i don't actually. your comments are correct. he does excite the base. but what is happening is for the fors time in this election we're talking about seniors in a very real way. and i have to semi about with aarp siding with the president on the medicare issue that's a problem for romney-ryan. a problem i don't see how they get around. >> eliot: i know people said he's so smart. he's so thoughtful. he has interesting plans. but when you look at the budget. it does not add pup there is literally no money for exception pieces of government function. i'm not sure he'll with stand this scrutiny that comes with the presidential campaign as opposed to being in the house where there is less analystcal work done when you read the

budget. >> well, it passed the house. >> eliot: that's the republican majority voting for their own document. it was not subject to scrutiny. >> not everyone is part of that right wing tea party side of the republican party. it passed the overall majority of the house. that's "a." b, as part as paul ryan being nuanced, what he has passed muster time and time again he knows the budget issues. he has been working on it a long time before then. he knows the budget issues and that is an issue that we have to talk about. we need to talk about the budget issues. we need to talk about medicare. in a week or two we better get back to talking about jobs. we will when the next job report comes out. >> eliot: let's say does the 13% that he put out there today. does that put the issue to rest or does it merely add fuel to the fire. people will say, wait a minute. that's not a whole lot of tax.

>> it doesn't quite put it to rest but i don't know if it adds fuels. americans have pretty much made up their mind about mitt romney. they think this is a guy who has had with his wealth had unbelievable opportunities to move it around, to pay less in taxes than the average american. and i think people already believe that narrative about him, and he has not been able to turn it around. i'll just say very quickly. in the 20 some odd million that he said he made. the president has made one-tenth of that and paid twice the tax rate. as long as that narrative still exists, no matter what he says and no matter what he produces. >> eliot: i heard the president called governor romney and said, who is your accountant. he wants that advice. >> hayes said that, when you look at the polls it did not work for newt gringrich. it did not work for obama or the democrats. we can sit around and talk about what romney paid. he paid what he owed.

he didn't break any laws. everybody agrees on that. even though harry reid may say otherwise, he embarrassed him and it may look worse for the democrats than mitt romney. >> eliot: i'm like you i'm sick of talking about his income tax. it may be immaterial. he has closed the door to that extent. only time will tell. but i'm intrigued by the medicare. it was really the end of the system as we know it. that's ryan one. ryan two clearly more nuanced but more complicated about. he has democratic senator of some stackture with him back up this plan. he has not rolled out the plan for bipartisan, why not. >> if you look at that, they don't think it's necessary. there is a lot of time left. if this becomes a big issue, a negative issue, and i do not think it should be, the ryan plan was a choice.

it was a choice to keep medicare as it has been or to go is to the premium support way. that choice shouldn't even be that politically controversial. if it becomes that, then you roll them out. >> my guess is you're not going to see it, because it's toxic for the bottom of the ticket. you're going to have republicans running and all of these districts that may not have been contested before that probably will be contested because now you've got seniors a bit more organized around this very specific issue. >> no seniors are impacted by this. only 55 and younger. the. >> eliot: that's a tough messaging issue to convey. one thing that i disagree with you, boris. if i were paul ryan, i would say this is bipartisan, give me credit for supporting and crafting something that can be bipartisan, that confronts a tough issue where the president is still repeating the same old mantra. basl smikle, and boris epstein.

we appreciate you're time tonight. >> thank you. >> eliot: trying to rewrite history, and we can't just stand back and let them do it. coming up on a special "my view." ttv

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>> eliot: "national review," a magazine founded by the late william f buckley is the influence leader of the conservative movement. it speaks about the free market

theory that overtook and then destroyed our economy. they put a caricature of me on their cover and called me the most destructive politician in america. why? my office and i were pursuing wrongdoing. we were suing coal-burning power plants who were violating the clean air act. we have suing virtually all the major wall street investment banks for committing fraud and violating their duty of honesty to the public. the feds were doing nothing about these problems until we did. lead to go billions of dollars of funds to customers and lowering fees again, something that the feds were unwilling to do. and as the article points out we were suing predatory lending companies along before 2004, and i was warning that subprime debt could be both harmful to the

borrower and toxic to the economy. the federal government affirmatively tried to shut down our effort. all these actions led the "national review" to deem me the most destructive politician in america. frankly, i wish the financial world were paying attention to what we were saying at a deeper level. evidence to the crisis of 2008 was visible. we tried to be heard about predatory lending and subprime debt, the voices of ideology of deregulation won out. clearly we've all paid an enormous price. there was a core logic to our cases. as one with a deep faith in the competition in the markets i also know that markets only work with tough enforcement of the rules with guaranteed competition and fair play. as thets enam involved gets. theree that us believe in. it's always important in this society that the most powerful be subject to the rule of law and the least powerful be

entitled to the protection of the law. unfortunately, those most responsible for creating the financial crisis have escaped paying any price. we have an adjust department who seems incapable of framing important cases. they would rathern steroids and baseball than structural malfeasance. they are now trying desperately to rewrite history. disclaiming any responsibility and pretending that events simply did not occur as they did. a small group of individuals whom i prosecuted seem to have made it their business to do just that. using multiple platforms and venues to attack me personally and distort the record of these cases. ken lagone wenten cmbc to level yet another round of attacks. >> look, this guy is a master at

deception, like a kid, a spoiled kid. i'm here, pay attention. >> langone feels free to speak up. it is right. i bear him no ill will for him stating what he views are his case. not because the cases are more important but the principles we were trying to vindicate surly are, and so much what tried to be said are simply outrageous. let's talk about the case against ken langone. paid it's ceo over $200 million over a series of years. a report done for the board which is linked on our website by dan webb, one of the most respected prosecutors in the nation found that he was overpaid by $144 million. and that langone and the committee handled the matter

improperly. in the end an appellate court found because the new york stock exchange converted to a for-profit, they lost jurisdiction over the case. this was a ridiculous decision and the descending opinion said it was meritless on its face. the judge who wrote the opinion is one of the most political judicial actors i've ever encountered. more important langone in detail in the report. and paid more than $200 million by a board comprised of ceos of the very companies he was supposed to regulate with overwhelming evidence of our corrupt our system has become and behaves. the stock exchange board during this era is a paradigm of the locking conflict of interest.

yesterday, they also recalled my last appearance on their network and spoke despair ranging it. >> he kept pointing to a report, asking if i read it, if i read it. >> it had relevance to the case in connecticut. >> it's crystal clear while i was attorney general with fraud and deceptive accounting practices, the company settled for $1.64 billion at the time the largest payment in history. let me quote from "the new york times" reporting of the settlement. under the settlement reached with the justice department, the securities and exchange commission the new york attorney general's office and the new york state insurance department a.i.g. acknowledged that it had deceived the investing public and regulators. further from the "new york times." mr. greenberg who was removed by

a.i.g.'s board last ma march remains under investigation by the securities exchange commission. greenberg settled with the sec for $15 million. and a judge in written opinion found evidence to deceive investors originated with greenberg. they even covered greenberg settlement saying, ex-a.i.g. greenberg settles fraud charges with the sec. so mr. langone factors matter. these cases were absolutely correct, important and went to the heart of the type of corporate fraud that nearly destroyed our economy. now langone also made noise about fabrication of evidence. >> there is a case recently heard, of court of appeals in

new york state where the judge is allowing the case of a docket to go forward because the judge says there is indications that spitzer and his staff fabricated information. evidence. >> eliot: baloney and i'm editing that for tv. what that has to do with langone langone, greenberg or his buddies or me, that's hard to see. but if you would like to read the opinions, they're learned to our website. perhaps surprising, he claims that i'm a bully. believe me, i've heard this before. let me say this, most folks thought that i was david versus their goliath. i think the power is much more on their side of the field that it ever was on mine. fy use some tough language every now and again too bad ken.

stop whining you and your colleagues destroyed the very fabric of our economy, and maybe it's about time that you heard someone tell you the truth. it's too bad that cnbc has lowered itself than having it's anchors to buy in the foolishness that langone spreads around. they support and perpetuate the charade. no checks, no facts, no balance. yet they call themselves a news network. finally let's put the specifics of these cases in langon, greenberg aside. the apologizists and deniers are trying to blind us to the massive problem that we still have in the arena of corporate fraud. it almost destroyed our economy cannot admit