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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> good morning, everybody. what do you say? it is monday, monday august 20th. can you believe it? good to see you today. welcome to the "full-court press" here on current tv your progressive morning show where we will bring you up to date on all of the news from the nation's capitol, from around the country, from around the globe and take your calls at 866-55-press. who says republicans can't have any fun? the f.b.i. reporting late last night that a group of republican
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congressmen took a midnight swim in the sea of galilee and that republican congressman kevin yoder -- actually, i think he is from kansas, actually went skinny dipping. here is the rub. those members of congress were on a congressional delegation paid for by american taxpayers. no skinny dipping on my tax dollar. >> that's going too far. we will tell you more about that and a whole lot more, but first let's get the latest, go out to los angeles and say good morning to lisa ferguson. hi, lease a. good monday morning. >> hi, bill good morning everyone. the romney-ryan ticket will be reunited in new hampshire. the two originally planned to campaign separately until after the republican national convention but advisers changed their minds saying romney has more enthusiasm around his younger counterpart, paul ryan. today's town hall means the duo will have to face tough
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questions about their medicare proposal. their latest argument is that it would not affect anyone over the age of 55. ryan is also attacking the president's plan with the misleading claim that it cuts $700,000,000,000 from medicare. here he is touting that message with his mom at a retirement home in florida. >> medicare should not be used as a piggy bank for obama care. medicare should be the promise it made to our current seniors, period, end of story. >> as we have explained before, the president's plan cuts waste, fraud and abuse and puts that money back into health care. ryan's plan originally supported those cuts although he and romney have since changed their minds. in the does complicate his budgets a bit because he isn't sure how to pay for the tax breaks for the wealthy. here is an interesting note on
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religion, u.s.a. today is pointing out this is the first time on the g.o.p. ticket there has not been a protestant since 1860. back with more. stay with us. we have a big, big hour and the i.q. will go way up. how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. >>you just think there is no low they won't go to. oh, no. if al gore's watching today...
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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> broadcasting across the nation, on your radio, and on current tv this is "the bill press show". >> republicans say they want to debate on medicare. all right. let's have it. good morning, everybody. what do you say? happy monday. it's monday august 20th. good to see you today. and welcome to the fult court press. great to have you on board as we take off to tackle the big issues of the day. what is happening in washington, d.c.?
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>> where you will find us on capitol hill, right in the heart of the action when there is any action in washington, d.c. there is not these days. around the country and around the globe and we will give you a chance to join the conversation in several different ways. first of all, give us a call at 866-55-press. an army of operators standing by to take your calls, or you can -- and in addition join the chat room. go to our current.com and just click on and join your fellow "full-court press"ers across the land who are with us this morning and talk among yourselves about the issues: whatever, it's an enterinteractive program. make the most of it. thanks for joining us this morning. joining us, that's me bill press as well as peter ogburn and dan henning and our videographer cyprian bowlding. relaxing weekend? ready to go? back in. do we have to have that larry
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craig sign up all the time? i just -- >> absolutely. >> please, only one person per stall. >> i am sentimental about a few things. >> that's one thing. >> that's the official larry craig. >> memorial studio i am in. >> i have a very wide stance. >> do they have those up in the men's room in every -- on every stall and every men's room at minneapolis airport? >> they should. if they don't, they should. >> you never know when some senator might be -- >> that's right. >> might be coming through. >> we have people in congress skinny dipping. you never know when they could go wild. >> headline. member of congress goes skinny dipping. right? what's the first thing you think of? democrat of course. no. it's a republican. maybe he was drunk. >> had to be. >> had to have been. so president obama, he is not doing any news conferences for
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the hard working, sirius reporters like me that go to the briefings every day. instead, he is giving interviews to "enter the tainment tonight." and if you give those interviews, you get asked serious questions like, do you and george clooney talk on the cell phone very often? >> he is a good man and a good friend. >> can he call you on the cell phone? >> the truth is, he doesn't. >> he could? >> he is very protective about not -- not bothering me. >> what a good guy. >> he is also sensitive to the fact that if he is around amount, then somehow, you know, it will be tagged as obama hanging out with the hollywood stars. >> that's not who he is. butacy good person. >> obviously, he's got his cell phone number, but he doesn't use it much. >> he is sensitive about not
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bothering me. he talks about him the way that you know, like a dating couple would talk. he knows i am very business. he doesn't bother me at work. she respects that. >> any time she wants to call. >> she knows i am always there for her. he is not the only person with a man crush on george clooney. >> you are right. >> or the other way around. >> a grated line-up for you today. neil king, good friend from "wall street journal." we will talk to congressman henry quar from texas about what jan brewer is up no in arizona, the most racist governor it seems in the country. and john ward on the campaign trail. he is already in tampa. i believe. >> on his way soon. he has been following mitt romney around, already made his announcement of john ryan. we will speak to him on the campaign train a little later and paul ryan bringing his mom
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on stage and kicking her off stage, but first. >> this is the full court press. >> led lines making news the first road trip for "curiosity" has been planned. nasa says in a couple of weeks it will drive toward a geologically rich territory called glenelle. about 550 yards from the current position. that drive will take three to four weeks to make. 1.5 inches per second or .08 miles an hour. >> no. >> that's how fast this thing can drive. >> is thatat all? really? >> yeah. area will examine rox and soil. >> we have learned about what is on republican running mate paul
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ryan's ipod. a favorite band is "rage against the machine." "that is amazing. that is amazing. >> the guitarist finds that ironic who has penned an article in rolling stone magazine because he is the embodiment of the machine that their music has been ranging against for two decades. >> morello says ryan has a lot of rage in him for sure but it's a bad kind of rage a rage against women, against immigrants, against workers, against gays, against the poor, and against the environment. >> good for him for speaking out. >> any politician that is so dopey to think that they can listen top rage"rage against the machine" and not recommends they are part of the machine, come on. >> the first state dinner for children is happening at the whitehouse today. fifty-four kids, one from each state will eat lunch, everything the white house she have is
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prepare something from particular their award winning recipes. >> are they going to have any of the white house beer? >> you think? daily beast honey ale. it includes golder moroccan butter nut stew sammon wraps and a vigie sadly with chicken. >> judged by a group of celebrity judges as part of the "let's move" campaign. >> a state dinner at lunchtime. >> let me tell you something. >> all a 24-hour, all expenses paid trip around d.c. >> as the father of two young children, we eat healthy at my house as often as we can. moroccan butter nut squash, stew, good luck getting the kids to eat that. just saying: good luck. veggie kinwa salad. >> why don't they serve them hot dogs and potato chips.
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>> organic hot dogs. come on. % >> et you quinoa loaf. >> dan thank you. thank you. all right. yes, here we go with paul ryan. the republicans say they want to have -- and the issue right now is: and actually i think this is good folks. okay? this is good for us. they want to have a debate on medicare. what they are saying is, we are proud of our position on medicare. and we want this campaign now to not focus on jobs not focus on the economy any more but focused on medicare. this is good for us because when you look at what president obama wants to do about medicare and when you look at what paul ryan, endorsed by his running mate mitt romney, ryan-romney ticket -- that's what it is. when you look at what they want to do about medicare there is indeed a stark, stark
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difference. it's a difference between saving it and ending it. yesterday, of course, to -- not yesterday. often over the weekend, saturday morning, to really emphasize that they want this debate on medicare, they sent paul ryan down to this retirement community in florida, the villages" and he brings up on stage a person who lives there part-time and depends on medicare. meet my mommy. >> this is my mom, betty. she is why i am here. she and her grandkids are why i am here. >> betty is on stage. now, they want to debate on medicare. here is the deal. okay? let's you and i agree we are going to have a debate on medicare but based upon the facts. >> that's not what you hear, the facts are not what you hear from paul ryan first of all, he says, here is my plan. >> it's a plan that says do not change benefits for people 5 and
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above and for those of us who are euchre when we become medicare he will eligible, we get a choice of guaranteed coverage options guaranteed affordability including traditional medicare. >> remember that. guaranteed. remember that. guaranteed. okay. that's his plan, and he slams president obama for taking $716,000,000,000, cutting $716,000,000,000 out of medicare. >> medicare should not be used as a piggy bank for obamacare. medicare should be the promise that it made to our current seniors, period, end of story. >> all right. now, let's talk facts. okay? this metm get a little wonky. i want to warn you. but it's very very important that we understand exactly what's going on. i will take them one at a time. obama. their charge. cut $716,000,000,000 out of medicare.
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here are the facts yes, president obama cuts $716,000,000,000 in waste and fraud out of medicare particularly over payments to insurance companies, hospitals and providers under the medicare advantage program paul ryan cuts the same $716,000,000,000 because this is the one item in the affordable care act that both sides greed on, that there. too much waste, too much fraud and they had to cut as much as they could, and they both agreed on 716 bill cumbrian$716 bill cumbrian dollars and every member of congress voted for it, every republican in congress. i'm sorry, except for three. so for them to accuse the same thing they are doing is lying to the american people. no. 2, they say, this is not going -- the ryan plan is not going to affect those who are already on medicare. >> that's another big lie. their plan endorsed by mitt
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romney does impact those who are already on medicare in at least three weez. first of all, it leaves the doughnut in place for prescription drugs. so when people get into that doughnut hole between about 28 and $4,500 in prescription drug costs, they are going to have to pay 100% of that out of their own pocket. >> that's $1,700 right away. if they have that kind of heavy prescription use, and that's not unusual. secondly because they would repeal obama care, they would make seniors have to pay for preventative care, cancer breast cancer screenings colon os cop pis, whatever. checkups to pay for it. ryan would add a trillion dollars to the penta gone budget and add trillions moreodeon
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budget and add trillions more. he will have to cut somewhere else and those cuts, according to congressional budget office are most likely going to come from medicare social security and other programs. benefits will be cut under the ryan plan according to all of the experts who have looked at it. then, finally, they say for people going to come into medicare, like 55 now and will be on medicare in the next five or 10 years, they are going to have choices. here is what's going to happen. they are going to get a voucher. they are going to get a limited voucher. they are going to have to go out and buy private insurance with that voucher money, as much as they can get. if that voucher won't pay for all of it, they are going to have to shell out of their own pocket. the congressional budget office says that means that seniors going into medicare who are not there now will have to pay an xrap $6,500 a year. extra $6,500 a
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year. out of their own pocket. and you and i both know a lot of seniors just don't have that much money. $6,500 is a lot of money for people om fixed income on retirement, already retired so this is a bad plan the difference between the two is president obama would save medicare. paul ryan and mitt romney would end it. president obama would preserve and protect medicare. paul ryan and mitt romney would destroy it, no matter what they say, those are the facts. so, yeah, let's have the debate. if we have the debate on the facts, no doubt in my mind american voters will reject the ryan romney plan. 866-55-press. 8 i 6-5577377. they want to make this the be debate, i welcome did because on the facts, on the merits we win.
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it's a big choice facing the american people. do you want to save medicare, or doubt to destroy it? >> the choice. mitt rochelleney is giving us by putting paul romney on the ballot. bring it on, baby. we will take your calls next 866-55-press. heard around the country and seen on current tv this is the bill press show [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> we talk a lot about the influence of money in politics. it is the defining issue of this era. the candidate with the most money does win. this is a national crisis.
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democratic national -- talking about medicare the debate on medicare. >> that's what republicans want. the democratic national committee announcing this morning, a new group of speakers for the 2012 democratic national convention down in charlotte. they include mayor rom emmanuel tim kaine, former virginia governor john kerry from massachusetts, martin o'malley and devalue patrick patrick. bill clinton, and julio castro the mayor of san antonio is going to be the keynote speaker. going to be a lot of fun down there. you know a lot of them are going to talk about medicare. medicare. republicans say we have a plan to say that they are lying through their teeth. arnold, a roving ambassador is in florida, surrounded by senior citizenship down there in crestview, florida.
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arnold, what do you say? >> it's a good thing i didn't hear you say corey booker's name to that. >> he is off of the list here arnold. >> weird. >> hey man. >> he may be speaking in tampa. >> he might be. what you are talking about, they control the debate. as long as they control the commercial ideation of the debate. we always speak in too main technological terms, you know, line ryan, i don't want to sound wonky. we have to do that and sell this thing and keep on top of it. stop the entitlement words sound like you are getting something for nothing. we have been paying into it for years. >> it's not a welfare program.
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if you stay on message we stayed on message. you could tell. sununu, you know, just screaming almost. if we stay on message, we could win this thing. >> i got it. you are right on. on mitt romney's taxes, he is not releasing them maybe, he might show as what is his primary address and you compare that t may show where he originally is voting from. >> i hadn't thought about that. we will take more calls coming
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up after this break. right, who was reagan's budget director, omb director. and i'm just blanking a little bit. i think his phrase for it was i.q. will go way up. how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. >>you just think there is no low they won't go to. oh, no.
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[ music ] >> on your radio and on current t.v. t this is "the bill press show." >> thirty-three minutes after the hour, the full court press coming to you live from our nation's capitol booming out to you on your local progressive talk radio station on sirius xm and on current tv. good to have you with us. back to your calls in just a second about this medicare debate, which republicans want and democrats should welcome i believe, if you deal with the facts and don't let the republicans get away with their
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palm ryan says, my plan with save medicare. president obama would destroy t he has it just backwards. the facts are just the opposite. democrats have to make sure everybody understands that. one final point, you know, with the other thing with this voucher. what's interesting to me is they give you the voucher, but if people want to they can up for staying in medicare. so that's ort ofsort of the public plan option which should be part of the affordable care act. you see what that means is ryan and romney realize that the voucher they provide ain't such a good deal because it doesn't pay the full cost of getting health insurance seniors do have under medicare in which they paid to into all of their lives and shouldn't have to pay an
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x-ray $6,500 from. here is brian from decatur, georgia. >> good morning. >> what what's up? i have been working heart people ever since i was in high school, part-time through college, full-time most of my life had a brief period of unemployment. i am currently unemployed. >> but you are paying into medicare and social security? >> yeah. so the message i am getting loud and clear being 47 is that my benefits are definitely going to be cut. >> no doubt about it. >> what they are saying is you are not going to be able to count on medicare. >> exact. >> how does that affect make you feel? >> makes my blood boil every time the budget monster comes on. >> that's a good name t you know something else, what's interesting about this is that if their plan is so good why don't they apply it to people who are on medicare today? we know the answer to that
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because it's political suicide but it's so good y do they say we have this great great plan but didn't kick in until people who are 55 get into medicare? donald out in aurora illinois. donald, what do you say? >> hey bill. people do things. when i here that applauding from when this guy talks, these people, they don't seem to understand understand, it's going to happen to them and not going to wake them up until it lands on their doorstep and they lose everything and their mothers are getting thrown out of nursing homes. his mother and all of the sudden rest of the better get their heads out of their aass. >> there are a lot of idiots going to go along with this and believe it. i saw some guy at the villages on television who said i like
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ryan's plan because at least it gives us a choice. no, he doesn't. right? yeah. he will give you a thousand dollars and say, lots of luck. go out there and buy health insurance. >> that's not a choice. right? it's not a choice to continue having coverage. it's a choice to be sol. right? >> that's true. the thing is, it seems to me the only reason they are offering this so-called choice, it's going to end up ending medicare. >> that's like an excuse to say more and more people are going with this choice. >> irright. >> that's their goal. their goal is to end mid care. it's interesting. i remember the day when newt gingrich used to threaten this. right? he would talk about letting medicare and social security wither on the vine. it was talk.
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this is their budget: written by paul ryan. embraced by mitt romney that republicans in the house have passed twice two years in a row. this is not just some fancy dream now. this is not just some democrats warning. this is what republicans want to do. you better be careful. they have done this. they have adopted this. they have voted for it twice. they are on record with this planning, this voucher plan. brandon is in everett washington. good morning. >> good morning, bill. >> two quick things. one, you should put out there if the republicans are so proud of their medicare plan, why are they all, including paul ryan, dragging their mommies out there to try to push it. >> because they think people will fall for that and mom is dumb enough to get up there on stage. she ought to say you are doing
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the wrong thing, throwing me under the bus. right? >> that's it. the vice president has nothing to apologize for. democrats should be tying the lack of jobs to the republican obstruction because the president has put out plans that would have created millions of jobs. >> yeah. absolutely. the president makes that point hilda solis made that point when she is in the studio with us a couple of weeks ago. they are complaining about too many people being out of work. there are too many people. republicans killed every jobs plan that the president of the united states put in front of them. brandon, great to hear he from you. here is sam up in rockchester new york. sam, good morning. >> good morning, bill. >> now we know how republicans learned to lie so well. they learned to lie from their lying mothers. regarding medicare, the medicare chief actuary, richard foster recently analyzed the healthcare
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act. he said it would solve the doughnut hole, reduce the federal budget and extend the solency for eight years. if you are buying ryan's plan, you get a coupon. if you are currently a medicare recipient, the whole program is going to be in jeopardy underliein' ryan and romney. >> >>. >> it's as simple as you lay it out there. extent the program for eight years. right in so again, here is what i would say, sale. the facts are on our side as long as democratic party is smart in getting those facts out there and making sure that the american public understands the difference between what obama has done and what paul ryan and mitt romney would do the facts
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are so clear and so much on our side, if they can't win that argument, they deserve to lose. sam, good to hear from you. you laid it out perfectly. pat reece out in the oakland, calendar calendar. >> i think this is the tactic they yarning the out of their rectums to see if they could win. this is something that came out of the clear blue sky. i think that they were going to lose on this battles. i believe that when what i have been telling my friends is this: when the debates starts, obama is going to have a huge advantage on romney because a lot of the lies romney continues to tell and ryan is telling as well, all of this is going to come out in the open. he keeps saying we are going to save medicare. they are bringing moms up on the stage, you know, having them in
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these political ads. they have reached a low point in their campaign, you know, the whole party as a whole. they have reached a new low. they will do anything to win. ig this is a losing battles from them. i think they will lose on this. >> i do, too, patrice. they are make making headway talking about jobs because the economy has been slow to rebound. they have decided they want to shift the debate. they want the debate to be all about medicare. let's stick with the facts and bring it on. because we win that debate. more calls. 8866-55-press. going to talk to john ward, too, from the huffington post who has been travelling with the romney campaign. >> on your radio on t.v. "the bill press show." . new on current tv.
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>> good. it appears a week ago, a little bit over a weekend ago, that military romney rolled out his choice for vice president, paul ryan expecting a big bounces of new life in a campaign. how is it going so far? how do you read it? what's your take? i went down through norfolk and covered that and went on the bus tour for about a day or 2 and was off this whole past week. i haven't been paying super close attention and been doing that on purpose. from a distance, i have seen a couple of stowers about the bounce being not what it had hoped to be. there is that. i think it's early would be my best guess. >> covering this, and we talked the last time we talked about speculating about some of the prices, were you surprised it
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was paul ryan and not some more predictable maybe tim pawlenty or rob portman? >> i was. >> it was what? >> a hail-mary pass? >> i was talking to some other folks about that. i don't know if i would call it a hail-mary pass. i don't think it was desperation. i do think there was some risk that was uncharacteristic for romney. i think he had been leaning toward ryan for some time. i think it deifies further facts to say they pan i could. i think it's going to remain one of the great questions of this. why did they run campaign the way they did until the time they
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picked ryan? if he was leaning toward ryan all the time, why different he start talking about entitledments earlier? ryan brings it up and what not. it did seem like a left turn. >> there is no doubt. we have been talking this morning and shows were talking over the weekend about medicare, about this is the debate now? the obama approach and the ryan romney approach to medicare. one thing that he ryan choice has done is it has changed the whole central issue and the focus of this campaign. right? rotney is not talking jobs and economy. they are all talking medicare. is that good for them? >> the bigger shift is away from obama and toward romney and ryan for the longest time in this campaign, romney, you know
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singular substance was to talk it about obama to talk every time anything came up. you could meng the weather. it would get back to obama and the economy and jobs. that is another point of that sort of right turn away from strategy. yeah. i was surprised i expected it for the longest time. i thought his best pigck my guess guesss was his best pick would be bon gjindall. he is not an inspiring figure by himself. another boring white guy would reenforce that. >> instead he picked a handsome white guy with a pretty well known medicare plan. i guess that's the other question. you have been following this campaign so much. to the extent that mitt romney has been vague on the issues
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paul ryan is mr. specifics. right? he is mr. powerpoint so do you see now ryan will be drivetion the debate more than mitt romney? >> it's a mixed answer i think, that if you just look at how ryan's election has driven the debate, you have to acknowledge that he is driving this this direction now. but when you look at sort of the position that they have taken, there are a couple of specific portions of the medicare plan that i think the biggest one would be the $500,000,000,000 that were in ryan's budget/medicare plan touched medicare. then the 700 billion or whatever, the president's and i was in boston in july talking to top advisors and they were quick to point out their plan did not
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have that, which i think was a foreshadowing of what was to come. right? because i think they were beginning to prepare themselves for a ryan pick. ryan obviously is going to get on board with that. he got on board, i think, yesterday with being in favor of abortion in cases of rape and incest. before that, he had only been in favor of it in case of the life of the mother being in danger. >> we have to run along here at the end of the hour. you are on your way to tampa. talk to you down there. jon ward is the senior political reporter for huffpo huffington post. >> this is "the bill press show." [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] dose of politics from a fresh perspective. >>i'm a slutty bob hope. the troops love me.
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lunch. don't panic. they are just having lunch like they do once a week whenever it fits their schedule. then the president is going to sit down for three local t.v. interviews. local television stations from jacksonville, florida, norfolk, virginia, and san diego, california california. the president is going to be interviewed by the virginian pilot. a lot of attention to virginia these days. kind of wonder why. this evening, the president and the first lady going out for dinner tonight with the winners of a campaign contest through the obama campaign where people buy and join bought lottery tickets bail to have dinner with the approximately and vice president. no idea what restaurant they are going to. might be right here in the neighborhood. we will be back with ron pollock and tall talk medicare. >> this is "the bill press show."
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> good morning, everybody. it is monday august 20th. good to see you today. welcome to the "full-court press" here on current tv bringing you the big stories around the country and globe, a lot having to do with medicare that's not all. who says republicans don't have any fun? the f.b.i. reporting this monday that a bunch of republican congressmen actually took a mid night dib in the sea of galilee last year and that one of those republican congressman, kevin
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yoeder went skinny dipping. here is the rub: they were on a congressional delegation paid for with taxpayer money. yeah, kevin yoeder went skinny dipping on your tax dollar and mine that's going tour too far if you ask me. we will get into that and more on to aed today's "full-court press." but the latest current news-up date in los angeles, standing by, lisa ferguson. hi, lisaa, good morning. >> hi, bill. good morning, everyone. we are just seven days away from the start of the republican national convention, meaning romney is getting ready for a pretty business week. the "new york times" is out with romney's to do list saying he will need to work on his speech prep for the debates, hold a few rallies and avoid any gaffes. there is usually little other news going on during the convention. so if romney makes any of his usual slip-ups, you can bet reporters will pounce. it sounds like he is taking his convention image pretty seriously.
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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> broadcasting across the nation, on your radio and on current t.v., this is the bill press show. >> republicans now say they want a debate on medicare. all right. we will give them one. hey, good morning, everybody. it is monday, august 20th. this is the full court press. good to see you today. thank you for joining us here as we come to you live from our nation's capitol with the news of the day whether it's happening here in washington d.c., around the globe, on the campaign trail we are there with you and to take your calls at 866-55-press. great to see you today.
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were our team, peter ogburn and dan henning. >> happy monday. >> and cyprian bowlding our videographer, we welcome back to studio a friend of ours to talk medicare and health care. we always turn to families u.s.a. executive director ron pollock in studio with us. good to have you back. >> great to you with youack in studio with us. good to have you back. >> great to you with you. it goes on and on. >> greed. >> we saw the new meryl streep flick, tommy lee jones. >> how was that? >> uuh. >> i think i am on the demo from that one. >> people who have been married a long time and need some help and things aren't going that william. go to a counselor.
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the guy who is the star of the movie, i forget his name. the comedian. >> steve carel. that looked fine. >> he plays -- you hate him. but he is very, very, very good. tommy lee jones does a grated job. and merrel streep you can't go wrong. it was a dumb plot and movie. >> so far, i am not sold. >> by the way, i am not trying to to sell you. i am not saying go see this movie. goto see to roam with love instead. >> that's a funny movie. >> there you go. >> president obama on the trail yesterday. it has become a campaign debate about medicare but that's not all the president talked about yesterday or saturday. he was up in new hampshire, and he indicated he was ready for this fight. >> i am getting all fired up.
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>> he didn't say ready to go but he is fired up ready to go. he talked about education in addition to medicare talked about jobs and he also talked about not going backed wards on don't ask don't tell as mitt romney would like to do. >> we are not going to back to the days where serving the country you loved depended upon who you loved. we are not going backwards. we are going forward. ron pollack well us and we will be joined by frank rich great claimnist for new york magazine. >> first, this is the full court press. >> other headlines making news on this monday, the first road trip for the mars rover, curiosity, has been planned. nasa has announced that in a couple of weeks, the rover will begin driving toward a geologically-rich area on mars to do some rock throwing and exploration. it's about 550 yards from the rover's current position, five and a half football fields.
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the drive to get there will take three to four weeksty rover's top suite speed at .08 miles an hour, 1.5 inches per second. this is about as fast as a volt. >> really no. >> inches along. i thought it was faster than ma? >> uh-uh. >> we have learned about what is on republican running mate's ipod one of his favorite bands is rage against the machine. the guitar has penned a new piece in rolling stone magazine tom morello writing about the irony of why ryan likes their music because he is the embodiment of the machine that their music has been raging against for the last 20 years. he says ryan has a lot of rage in him for sure. it's a bad kind of rage, rage against women, i am grants workers, gays, the poor and the environment. >> good for him for writing that. >> they are not on my ipod.
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>> they should be. you will love it. we will play some later. >> 62-year-old diana nyad is in the middle of another attempt swim from cuba. not wearing a sweat suit and swam through moderate rain overnight. she has completed about 30 miles no sharks and has not been too bad with the jellyfish yet. this is her third attempt. >> does she go with a timeout. >> doesn't get on a boat. floats for a while and they give her like food and water through a feeding tube basically she just sort of drinks out of while she is treading water. >> man no. >> no thanks. >> not interesting thank you, dad. ron, the mitt romney action paul
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ryan and karl rove saying the same thing. >> they are. if i were there, i don't think i would want to have it. here we are. >> let's start saturday down in the villages in florida. paul ryan brings his mom, betty on stage 78, on medicare and social security and says i am here to protect my mom a mrafrn that says do not change for 55 and above and when we become eligible we get a choice of guaranteed coverage options, including traditional medicare. >> okay. if i could say, my plan, president obama would steel from medicare to pay for something else. >> medicare should not be used as a piggy bank for obamacare.
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it should be the promise made to seniors, end of story. >> our viewers and listeners understand the facts on those three points that president obama would cut medicare the ryan plan woman make no difference and pour fem who will soon be he will eligible for medicare, that they will have a choice of options. so it will be better for them and thereby, they save the program. let's start with the $716,000,000,000. what's the truth? >> this is real hypocracy because there were significant improvements made in the medicare program to make the program more efficient. for example, there is a part of the program that enables people
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to choose to get into is a private insurance plan medicare advantage program, and the insurance companies have been receiving a huge windfall in payments from the federal government. when the this program started over a decade ago, the private insurance company said, you know we should run medicare because we can do so and save cost. and so when the program started, the insurers received 95% of the average payment of the medicare program, so it's a reduction of 5% the analysts said when they were receiving 95% they were overpaid because they chose younger and healthier seniors. >> sure. >> to participate in the program.
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so if they were overpaid at 95% it was absolutely ridiculous at the time the affordable care act was enacted, they were receiving 114% so they were receiving a huge windfall. president obama said, you know, this is not good for taxpayers. it doesn't help anybody so it scaled it back to 100%. now, that's part of the $714,000,000,000 that is al occurat issue here. it has nothing to do with harming seniors. what makes it so hip critical is that paul ryan in his budget implemented the exact same cuts so to criticize president obama is real hypocracy the reason ryan has it in and obama has it in is because this is the one point of obama care that both sides agreed? right? getting rid of excess spending, fraud, waste and end mid care this 714 i thought it was 716.
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i want to be sure we get all three in. they claim if you are on medicare today you don't have to worry about anything. there is going to be no change whatsoever. >> no sense. so the affordable care act provides some significant relief for seniors in the medicare program. there are two very important benefits that they receive first, preventive care for free, no dead you can'tibles or co pays. secondly medicals millions of is heiors fall into a gap of coverage called the doughnut hole. that comes to an end as a result of the affordable care act. if you repeal the affordable care act, you are taking away those benefits from seniors that the affordable care act provides. >> i'm sorry. i saw something over the weekend where that doughnut, i want to be sure people understand, you
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get rid of the doughnut, it's about $1,700. right? that seniors would have to shell out on their own. >> more than that. >> is that right? >> more than that. after seniors have spent about $2,600 in prescription drugs covered by medicare, then there is a big gap in coverage the next $3,600 they have to pay right now, they getting a 50% discount for brand name drugs. the affordable care act eliminates that gap in coverage. by the time it does so, by the way, if you did not eliminate this gap seniors pay close to $6,000. when you appeal the affordable care act you are affecting those
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seniors now. >> this touches on it a little bit. the third claim, which is under our plan in the future and you have to wonder if their plan is so damn good why do they explain delay if 55 years, people will get on the to medicare, we will give them a choice what's the reality? what's the true? >> they want to transform medicare and they want to private eyes it and they want to create a voucher. system called premium support. what happens is instead of getting medicare as we get it today as a guarantee, people will get a voucher, in effect that will pay for a portion of the premiums and seniors will pay the remaining portion of the premiums. and with each passing year the way you save money is you reduce the portion that's paid by the federal government. >> and require seniors to pay
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more out of pocket? >> exactly. exactly. now, there may be some healthier seniors who will say maybe i can get some extra benefits in private insurance but what you will see is a preparation with the people who need healthcare and you will have soldolder, sicker people in that. the costs are going to skyrocket. you are going to have a privatized system on the one hand with a voucher and you are going to have the traditional medicare. >> therewill the voucher be enough to buy private health insurance? >> no. you will have to pay a significant portion on your own. >> that's what is congressional budget office says could be as much as $6,500. >> that's right. with each passing year, the amount that seniors pay will grow and grow and so seniors will have to pay a whole lot more out of pocket. >> in other words what i hear you say and it seems that way to me is in this debate over
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medicare -- right? republicans are lying on every front about what their plan would do versus what president obama's plan would do. but this is a debate republicans want. % if they debate -- if we debate it on the facts, i don't see how they can win this debate. >> i don't either. i can't imagine seniors being happy with this proposal. so as you said, there are three different parts of it. you have got the $7,000,000,000 plus. >> that's pure hypocracy because you have got the same proposals on both sides then there are cutbacks in benefits already being provided through the affordable care act that would be withdrawn. then you transform the medicare program into a voucher type system and try to privatize it. >> what they are doing thend result is to destroy medicare, which is what they want to do in the first place. right? take a locknger rile getting there. ron pollack in studios from familiesusa.org.
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this is a national crisis. >> cj, good morning. >> been pretty good to get onto your show. >> glad you are there. >> when it comes to looting the social security medicare trust fund, i remember reagan racked up $4 trillion in debt most of it obviously looted from those trust funds. used to pay for tax cuts for rich friends billions in dollars of military equipment we never needed like the b-1 bomber and other garbage. bush i did the same and then after, that jesus bush looted trillions from both trust funds. and they used it for -- they used the points for things that
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had obviously nothing whatsoever to do with health care for anybody. it was wealthcare for a handful of rich corporate executives. this guy has the nerve. this guy has the nerve to say obama is stealing medicare from the medicare trust funneled to use it to pay for health care? if that haven't the height of number 1, cognitive dissonance i don't know what is. >> the argument is hard to follow. cj, i appreciate your point, he says he uses it for deficit reduction but under his plan there is no deficit reduction until for 30 something years. >> there isn't deficit reduction at all. what you are referring to, there is no bam answering of the the budget he showers new tax breaks on the wealthiest americans which actually costs the budget
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a substantial amount of money. and that's why he has to really cut medicare and medicaid. >> right. a trillion dollars more spending? >> a trillion on the pentagon, trill ions more for tax cuts for the wealthy which would require cuts and benefits to the social programs including medicare. no way around it. >> this is robin hood in reverse. providing new tax benefits for the americans. there's they are trying to transform medicare and/medicaid. >> do you think his mother believes this nonsense? >> mothers believe in sons to a fault or can do so. you don't have to answer that. gene from cleveland, ohio. what do you say? >> hey bill they are endorsing
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socialized medicine, medicare. isn't it time to give everybody socialized medicine? and expand instead of privatizing it? >> it is a good point to make. >> that's what they are doing. >> they want to trembly the medicare program ultimately and make it a private insurance system a private insurance system where seniors are going to have to pay more and more and more with each passing year to purchase that insurance. right now, they don't have to do that and they have a guarantee of significant benefits. >> that's going to change. it changes medicare as we know it. >> yeah. so this plan is bad for people who are on medicare now. it's even worse for people who may soon qualify because it won't be around. ron pollack, thanks for come income today. >> delighted to be with you. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ]
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members. you can find out more about their good work at usw. that's the website usw.orgment well, republicans now say we know a debate on medicare. welcome it or not, that's what they've got once paul ryan joined the picture. writing about that and a whole lot more one of our favorite guests, frank rich with new york magazine, writer at large and also executive producer of veep on hbo. he knows something about vice presidential candidates. right? >> how are you? is pale ryan a game changer here? >> i think we know the answer is not at all in that there has been been no bounce. the vice presidential pick always creates a bounces. >> sarah palin did.
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>> here it's been what? one point? forget about his views look at the politics of the situation. he doesn't add any diversity to the ticket whatsoever. he is a another white conservative with inherited wealth. they sort of look like each other. whoever you are in the house, it's worst brand in america except a cable repairman. >> ten % approval rating? >> yeah. then he colors in in my view the radical right policies that romney has been trying to hide that his party supports and now
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we learn, also, that he is a co-sponsor on a front having nothing to do with medicare or budget, a co-sponsor of an onerous bill with aiken, todd aiken, the most -- who is now becoming, i think, probably the most toxic man in american politics overnight. >> exactly. >> aimed at women and women's reproductive rights. >> paul ryan really i am sure we will hear more about this. he is as extreme right on the social issues as he is on the fiscal issues. as you just pointed out. this is what surprises me about this pick, frank, is that where mitt romney has been so vague about his policies right? paul ryan is mr. powerpoint. he is mr. specific, whips out his budget and will tell you in excruciating detail what's in it at a moment's notice?
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>> he doesn't allow any wiggle room for the ticket. you are absolutely right. he is the an i think sys. when romney reveals a 59.plan i guess he chose 59 over 7 because heinz had 57. there is nothing in it. if you read it, it's like the verbal equivalent of styrofoam pellets. when ryan releases a detailed budget it is full of mind-numbing detail you describe, all of which nails the republican party to very specific collects, very specific policies that romney has been trying to fudge. >> i have been trying to think back and i haven't come up with the answer whether or not there has been any other vice presidential nominee who has driven the debate in which ryan is already doing. didn't cheney didn't do that.
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right? al gore didn't do that god knows. >> they have driven the campaper, of course, and examples of that would be palin and certainly dan quayle but the debate, if you look back now at 2008, i would have to say that patin ended up driving a part of the debate. it was a part that manageccain didn't want to embrace. there are things romney doesn't want to embrace about ryan which is to brand obama as not a real american and to make him some kind of common terrorist. >> palling around with terrorist. >> remember those rallies in the fall when people shouted out "treason" and all of that. there, she was sort of driving the debate. interestingly representing the same base of the republican party in a much kinder, gentler way. brian, i should say has not been involved in birther nonsense or racial nonsense the way that palin was but he is --
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she did drive some of the debate and again with a rather pallid, older and somewhat cautious republican candidate. >> finally, on this, i know it's hard for you or me to put ourselves in this position but if you try to project yourself as romney or a close advisor of romney, is there a point in august where you say, let's stop talking about jobs and the economy and let's talk about medicare instead? >> republicans, strategists have said and romney strategists have said from the beginning of this presidential campaign every day that we talk about how bad the quote obama company is and every day we do not is lost. they are talking about we are going to be back in sandra fluke
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territory. we will have a good solid week talking about reproductive rights and the republican add attitude toward women, despicable, and so forget about jobs. the truth is that they are a full employment center for commentators like us. >> that's their jobs plan talking with frank rich writer at large from new york magazine. follow and read good stuff there at nymag.com unless you are a subscriber like i am or you can follow frank on twitter. his handle is@frankrichny. he owns new york. todd aiken, here claire mccaskill, probably the most threatened democrat for reelection in the sfait. she has some luck of the draw of
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getting todd aiken because he is the most extreme of the candidates. he proved it when he told a reporter because he is against abortion in all cases because if it's a legitimate rape, a woman's bottomdy will take care of that. >> it's insane. this guy is on the science and technology committee of the house. >> whoa. >> if that isn't an example of how the lunatics have taken over the asylum. in joe heller's great novel, catch-22, there is a couple that can't get pregnant and they don't know what's going on. they go to see the doctor. the doctor -- it turns out they are not doing the act correctly. i think that's what's needed for him and others in this party including, by the way, rush limbaugh who didn't seem to understand the function of birth
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control room pills when he went off on sandra fluke. >> as you allude to earlier, even though the romney campaign said we don't agree with paul ryan. he co-responsored with todd aiken a measure for no taxpayer funding for abortion act where they say the om case it would be allowed is cases of forceable rape. right? >> right, as opposed to unforceable rape which is just, you know, a mere day in the park, a walk in the park it really is infuriating because talking first of all, aimed at a majority of the american population. it is so patronizing as well as ignorant and so beyond, you know people have -- i am a
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completely pro-choice person. i feel that a woman has the right to choose under any circumstances but let's say you did have religious or moral qualms about some aspect of abortion. this has nothing to do with any of that. this is all about, you know, we'll decide what's a real rape or not. >> right. >> that's the level this has gotten to. women are making up rapes to get a portions. >> that's what they are saying. it's reprehensible. >> paul ryan i think is troubling and will be for the romney campaign. >> i can't let you go without asking about the biggest story of the day as far as we are concerned at the "full-court press." it's revealed, i think it was on politico this morning, the f.b.i. confirming they have been doing an investigation that last year, on the congressional delegation, a bunch of republican congressman let by
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eric cantor, although he didn't participate in it. they had a big party on the shores of the sea of galilee, a sacred place, got a lot of heavy drinking going on and a lot of them went for a midnight swim in the sea of galilee. one of them actually skinny dipping, a republican congressman from kansas. you never thought republicans could have so much fun? >> why not use the sea of galilee for a baptism you know. and, you know darn well that these are people who just, you know, in a cynical way for reasons that have nothing to do with what they really feel about jews orrisises in my view exploiting their love of israel the love of the jewish people. i say this as a jew. this stuff gives me the creeps when it's coming from politicians who you know have another motive. they probably don't even know what the sea of galilee is. they -- who knows they probably
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thought they were at the ven venetian. >> evangelicals know it's where jesus walked on the water. i don't think people will turn kind kindly to this at all. it's good work. good fun for you and me. the silver lining. >> great to talk to you, bill. >> thanks, frank. one of my favorites best writer in the country, writer at large, frank rich. we will be back to catch you up to date on some of the other hot stories of the day. >> this is the full court press, "the bill press show," live on your radio and on current tv. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >>"if you ever raise taxes on >>the rich, you're going to
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get there. the embassy is surrounded by blood pressure police officers. it's costing about $100,000 a month for them. >> really? >> ridiculous. julian assange went out on the balcony and spoke to supporters yesterday first of all saying bradley manning is a hero. >> if bradley manning did as he is accused, he is a hero and an example to all of us and one of the world's foremost political prisoners. >> bradley manning, the u.s. army private who is successspected of and has been accused in court of leaking those accused of releasing the first wiki leaks
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documents to julian assange, to the buildup of the war in iraq and calling on president obama to do the right thing and let bradley manning out of prison. >> i ask president obama to do the right thing. the united states must renounce its witch hunt against wiki leaks. >> it seems to be a witch hunt against whistleblowers and i think bradley manning is as close as we -- we haven't talked about him in a while but as close as we have in this country to a political prisoner. that goes against the crane of what our legal stem is supposed to be all about. i don't think there is anything. i have yet to see anything, anything destructive, any harm that came from the leak of those
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documents. but if the government has a case against bradley manning, then let them bring him forward and make their case in court and let the jury decide up or down but to keep him in prison like indefinitely, i think, is an abuse of justice and i wish president obama would listen not necessarily to julian assange. maybe just to people in the united states who want to see our justice system work just the way it should even for maybe especially for a young private in the military. free bradley manning. you bet. i will be back with today's parting shot. >> on your radio, on t.v. "the bill press show," new on current tv. that accuse me of being a traitor. why aren't they out there taking on michele bachmann. that's what i want to know. why not? she's trashed the american flag. all i did was say let's dump the star-spangled banner for god
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>> the parting shot with bill press, this is "the bill press show." >> on this monday august 20th, my parting shot for today, we learned a lot about paul ryan, that he is such a tea party zealot that he would throw his own mother under the bus. he went to a retirement community called "the villages" in florida and brought his 78-year-old mother, betty up on stage. he claims his plan would not affect seniors like his mother already on medicare but he is simply not telling the truth. ryan's plan would hurt today's seniors in three ways. first, he leaves the so-called doughnut hole for prescription drugs which would cost seniors an extra 1700 bucks minimum. second by repealing obamacare,
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he forces seniors to pay for presentative care and third, by adding a trillion dollars to defense spending and trill ions of tax cuts to the welfare, he makes cuts to existing medicare more likely. to those soon to be he will eligible, they will get a voucher that will pay part of their health care only and that will cost the average senior $6,500 out of their own pocket which, of course most seniors can't afford. they juv don't have it t you know what? paul ryan doesn't care. he is willing to throw his own mother under the bus to save his medicare plan. and, of course, he just did. all right. tuesday, tuesdays with judd from think progress tomorrow. go out and have a great, great monday. come on back and see us again to talk about all of the issues of the day tomorrow morning. see you then. >> this is "the bill press show."
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