time. well if you found it hard to believe what mitt romney was saying in tuesday night's debate, now you know why. think progress has documented 31 lies. in 41 minutes. a new record for liar, liar, pants on fire. so now you know how to know when mitt romney is not telling the truth. yeah. when his lips are moving! we'll talk about those lies for you but first let's take a little time out to get the latest, start off with today's current news update. here she is, lisa ferguson out in los angeles. hi lisa, good morning. >> hey bill. good morning everyone. president obama and mitt romney are both capitalizing on the debate spin this week. particularly in going after women voters. and can you guess what the number one search term on google was yesterday? binders full of women. not only is that one not playing well for romney, it is not even true. those binders came from a group

called the massachusetts government appointments project which put the list together before romney was even elected. so for him to say he requested groups of qualified women is a flat-out lie. romney did hire several new women but by the end of his term, the number of women in top positions was actually lower than it was when he took office. romney's going after the president nonetheless saying there are more women in poverty now than when obama took office but the president is hammering home on romney's views on fair pay. here he was yesterday in eye what. >> when young women graduate, they should get equal pay for equal work. when governor romney was asked about it, his campaign said we'll get back to you. >> in addition to women's issues and the binders a few other parts of the debates are catching on. see if this sounds familiar. >> governor romney was a little -- how can i say it? sketchy. last night.

>> biden's own terms are catching on, too. in a rally in reno, the crowd started shouting the word ma larky. back with more bill after the break. stay with us. (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents special event coverage of the presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> you're going to hear that used as a major talking point. (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >> now that's politially direct. >>start the night with a special live edition of "talking liberally with stephanie miller" at 7 eastern. only on current tv. ♪ ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ ♪

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land of ours, coast-to-coast from our studio on capitol hill in washington, d.c. most powerful city on the planet. we're right here, right down the street from the united states capitol. good to have you with us today. lots and lots to talk about and more post-debate commentary about president obama's comments on libya and mr. romney's comments on governor romney's comments, i should say on coal and other energy issues all across the board the debate continues leading up to the next presidential debate which is monday. i don't know where this one is. peter? >> i knew and now i forgot. i'll find out. >> bill: doesn't matter where it is. we'll be there with you watching it and talking about it. today, more spillover from tuesday night's debate. wherever you happen to be, thank you for joining us, whether you're watching or listening on your local progressive talk

radio station or watching on current tv, listening to sirius x.m., this is the place to start your day. i appreciate the fact that you do so. we are here with the entire team this morning. peter ogborn and dan henning hello, guys. >> good morning, good morning. phil phil backert has the phones this morning and cyprian bowlding keeping us on camera. >> by the way, that next debate will be in boca raton florida. >> bill: boca raton. >> it is getting colder here, they're going south. >> bill: monarch butterflies that's where he made the comments about the 47%. behind closed doors. some big mansion in boca raton. >> i don't think the debate will be in that house again. >> bill: what was said in that house may very welcome up in the next -- although the next one is all about foreign policy. >> if obama gets creative, maybe he can work it in somehow.

>> bill: yeah, he'll work it. he had a good day yesterday. president obama went out to iowa and then to ohio, back on the campaign trail. having a lot of fun with some of the stuff -- lot of the talk yesterday, most of the talk, i think was about mitt romney's blunder on the binders where the women from massachusetts said he didn't come to us looking for candidates, we went to him once he wound said here are some women you -- once he won and went to him. it backfired plus it was a stupid thing to say. the president had fun with that but he had more fun with mitt romney who had stood -- who stood in front of a coal plant in massachusetts shut it down and said this stuff kills. that's why we're shutting it down. now he's out there as the champion of coal. president obama calling him mr. coal. >> obama: now he's running around talking like he's mr. coal. [ laughter ]

come on! come on! you know that's not on the level. did anybody actually look at that guy and think man, he's really into coal? >> bill: you think of mitt romney standing there ramrod straight in his -- i don't know what kind of suit he wears -- >> he looks like mr. coal. >> bill: brian schweitzer, you think of mr. coal. he's our coal guy. but mitt romney. again, he shuts down a plant because it kills and now he's out there -- it is like he banned assault weapons when he was governor of massachusetts. and then running for president he's all for them because the nra is for them. >> there are so many flip-flops, this could be a huge flip-flop. it would be a huge story but there are just so many to choose from it is like take your pick on which one you want to get the most outraged about.

>> bill: he makes john kerry look solid consistent all the way. we'll have a lot of fun. victoria jones from talk radio news will be with us as a "friend of bill." brad woodhouse one of our favorites, communications director for the democratic national committee will be along as well in studio. we'll talk to susan paige, the washington bureau chief for "usa today." hey, great line-up for you. but first... >> this is the "full court press." >> some other headlines making news for you on this thursday morning. carlos beltran got injured in the cardinals/giants national league series game three last night. but some might call that a blessing in disguise for matt carpenter subbed in for him, hit a two-run home run to help st. louis beat san francisco 3-1 now taking a 2-1 series lead. in the alcs. new york yankees down three games to none to the detroit tigers lived to see another day only because they did not play last night. the game was postponed because of rain.

>> bill: yankees got another day on the table thanks to the rain. you gotta say about the cardinals, they are the world champion. >> they're a good baseball team. >> bill: even though we hate them. they're a good baseball team. >> let's make no mistake about it. i hate them so much. like dave zirin said, they're cockroaches. they know how to survive. >> last year, charlie sheen was the highest paid tv actor. forbes is out and he's been replaced by the man who replaced him on two and a half men. the showplace well. ashton kutcher earning $24 million for his role. laurie takes in $18 million. ray romano, alec baldwin of nc nc -- and harmon of ncis round out the top five. are you a firm believer in the five second rule? you may want to be careful.

the next time you drop food on the floor and think if you quickly pick it up, it is safe to eat. the folks at san diego state -- >> bill: five second rule? pick it up within five seconds you're safe. >> no germs on there. but -- >> bill: do you teach that to your kids? >> uh, no comment. look, if i drop food on the floor, it's trash. if i drop food on the floor it's trash. if my kids drop food on the floor, it is negotiation. >> bill: the dog gets it? >> the dog will usually beat anybody. >> folks at san diego university conducted a study sponsored by clorox but they found that germs easily attach to dropped food much faster than in five seconds, sometimes even as much as one second. so -- beware. >> bill: i must admit, i never heard of the five-second rule. i drop food on the floor it's trash. i wouldn't pick it up and eat it. >> live by the five-second rule.

absolutely. if i didn't see any -- if i didn't see any visual dirt on the floor, five seconds. >> yea yeah. those visual germs. those germs that you can see. >> bill: that's really smart. [ laughter ] >> bill: okay. all right. now, i gotta tell you i'm really steamed this morning about one issue that came up in the debate and part of the post-debate commentary. it has to do with libya and it has to do with mitt romney's claim. remember, this was his big -- he came charging out of the gate, right, in the debate. he was going to prove that president obama was totally out of touch. because as mitt romney said, it took him 14 days to -- took the president 14 days before he stated that what happened in libya in benghazi was an act of terror. he was wrong about that. dead wrong about that.

the very next day as president obama pointed out the very day after the attack in the rose garden president obama said it was an act of terror. but mitt romney tried to stick by his guns until candy crowley the moderator finally said mitt, you're wrong. let's move on. remember that little tense exchange with president. >> obama: saying read the transcript. >> romney: want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in benghazi an act of terror. >> obama: get the transcript. >> he did in fact call it an act of terror. >> obama: can you say that a little louder, candy? >> he did call if an act of terror. >> bill: mitt romney is embarrassed. he's proven he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about in front of the whole world. what do republicans do immediately after the debate? first, they attacked candy crowley for fact checking if you will on the spot.

or for at least telling romney get off it because you're wrong and obama is right. yesterday, by the way candy crowley was on "the view" with joy behar and all of our good friends there, she said they're wrong in trying to say that this proves that i'm biased in favor of president obama. that's not what i was doing at all. >> people are going to look at this through the prism that they look at this through. i get that. i totally understand that. it did not come to me as like i'm going to fact check this. it came to me as could we get past this? >> bill: so then the other thing they say is -- their other attack right away and all day yesterday was oh, he may have said act of terror in the rose garden but he wasn't necessarily -- how do we know he was talking about what happened in libya. he wasn't necessarily talking about what happened in benghazi.

all right. so for the record, here we are the rose garden, september 12, 2012, the day after the benghazi attack. president obama in the rose garden. listen carefully. >> obama: no act of terror will ever shake the great resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. >> bill: the idea that he wasn't talking about libya is -- what happened in libya is absolute pure, unadulterated b.s. nonsense! and yet i heard last night this is what really -- i find outramous this morning. abc news last night and nbc news, both of them in their reports about this little back and forth took the position that yes, it could be said it is not clear the republicans may have a point, it is not clear. the president was talking about what happened in benghazi.

nonsense! i would love to say b.s. right here on the air right now because that's what it is. let me tell you something, i was in the rose garden when the president made that statement. i'm here in this studio, in front of the white house press corps. we talked about what happened in benghazi that morning. reported the news. i get an e-mail from the white house saying something added to the schedule. the president is coming out in the rose garden. he's going to make a statement about what happened last night in libya. i went down to the white house. we were taken out to the rose garden. the president walked out to make a statement on libya. hillary clinton secretary of state was standing by his side. i heard the president say that. then the president and the first lady, i saw the secret service they pulled the vans up outside the rose garden. we had to leave the rose garden because the president was coming out of the oval office with the secretary of state to go to the

state department to talk to the state department, employees of the state department and to commiserate with them about losing one of their ambassadors and three other americans in benghazi. so what else was he talking about? he wasn't talking about september 11th, 2001. he wasn't talking about pan am 103. he wasn't talking about oklahoma city bombing. he was talking about benghazi. >> that's the thing that it bothers me about it. what else could he have been talking about? >> bill: dan, i want to play it again. he said here's our resolve after what happened. okay? coming out of condemning what happened and coming out of expressing his affection for and great sadness at the loss of ams am -- ambassador chris stevens here is how he wrapped up his

resolve. >> obama: no act of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation. alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. >> bill: right. so the idea that then these republicans -- i understand the romney campaign because you know, they were so embarrassed by this whole thing because mitt romney made a fool of himself. i understand but for the media to give it any credence whatsoever, for the media to report on it, as abc news and cbs did last night and i'm sorry -- i saw cbs and nbc. i don't know what abc did. they probably did the same thing they are irresponsible. totally, totally irresponsible. the fact that president obama did not say the words peter what happened yesterday in benghazi was an act of terror. i mean do you have to say those specific words in order to get credit for calling it an act of

terror? no! come on! let's not parse every single word. we're not third graders. again, i understand the spin of the romney campaign. for the media to give that spin any credit whatsoever is just outrageous. we all ought to be pissed off about it. tell me what you think. 1-866-55-press. let's face it. mitt romney got it dead wrong. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." from psoriatic arthritis hit even the smallest things became difficult. i finally understood what serious joint pain is like. i talked to my rheumatologist and he prescribed enbrel. enbrel can help relieve pain, stiffness, and stop joint damage. (vo) during the debates, it's hard to know what candidates are thinking. unless, of course you've stood at the podium yourself. with governors granholm, spitzer, and vice

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>> announcer: chatting with you live at current.com/billpress. this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and on current tv. >> bill: president obama calls it an act of terror the morning after what happened in libya. mitt romney says he didn't and the media says well, you know, mitt, you may be right. oh no! no way are they right on this. peter, what's happening on facebook and twitter? >> black cat writes go, bill, go. bill just took the press to task. we also had bill w write in this is what the g.o.p. is reduced to because they have nothing on obama. >> bill: why does the media go along with it? they should say the romney campaign claims this but that's nonsense. that's crazy. >> it is tough to not say b.s. on the air. >> bill: i'm really hurting. >> i love this comment by r. d. copeland on twitter. >> bill: they ought to say

mitt romney claims it wasn't clear what he was talking about. [ laughter ] >> we're tweeting at bp show, copeland says there is a wiley coyote comparison to make here. john stuart made the comparison. mitt romney is the coyote. barack obama is the road runner who paints the tunnel on the rock and romney runs into it. >> bill: arnold down in lake city florida. he's down there getting boca raton ready for the next debate. what do you say arnold? >> caller: hey bill. >> bill: your cell phone is a little scratchy this morning. >> caller: the news organizations, they have no shame at all man. they do everything -- it looks like they work for the republicans. that darrell issa, he says everything but the right thing. it turned out to be nothing but a bunch of junk. when they were in charge when

9-11 went off the bush administration. >> bill: arnold, you're a part of the show but your cell phone is not making it this morning. thanks for checking in. paul is out in seattle washington. hey, paul, what's going on? >> caller: bill, i'm with you. the idea that paul ryan says that oh, obama said acts of terror in passing. look if the day afterwards, acts of terror means this one and all others. he said no act of terror will ever -- that means this one -- it doesn't mean all others but not this one. >> bill: again, i was there! it was called -- the president could make a statement to us, the white house press staff about the incident in benghazi. if he wasn't talking about benghazi what the hell was he talking about?

he wasn't talking about fairfax virginia. jesus. media, get off of this! >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." they'll try to kill social security, medicare and everything they've always wanted to kill in the first place. basically a conspiracy leaving our national security at risk. decide the election. current tv presents special event coverage of the presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> you're going to hear that used as a major talking point. (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >> now that's politially direct. >>start the night with a special live edition of "talking liberally with stephanie miller" at 7 eastern. only on current tv.

>> bill: 33 minutes after the hour. on a thursday. thursday october 18. the "full court press." victoria jones will be with us in the next hour as a "friend of bill." we'll be talking about all of the lies that mitt romney told.

31 lies in 41 minutes according to think progress. right now, we're talking about the media going along with the romney claim that president obama didn't really, didn't really, when he said act of terror on the morning after libya, he wasn't talking about libya. if not what the hell was he talking about? more calls coming up at 1-866-55-press. the "full court press" today brought to you by the way by the national education association. good men and women of the nea under president dennis van roekel creating great public schools for every student. for more information, visit their web site at nea.org. again, to your calls. peter has another couple of news items here. first, it happened to me. i hope it never happens to you. it is called the uh-oh moment when it starts out when you find that your credit card has been declined. gets worse when your bank tells you they canceled your credit

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>> bill: what was sarah palin? 's. >> that was trigg. >> this is tagg romney who gave an interview in north carolina with a talk radio host by the name of mark lumme and mark, the host asks tagg what it was like to watch barack obama take his dad to school in the debate on tuesday night. here's how tagg romney responded. >> what is it like for you to hear the president of the united states call your dad a liar? >> well, you want to rush down to the debate stage and take a swing at him but you know you can't do that. >> whoa. take a swing at the president of the united states. my advice to tagg romney, go ahead. give that a shot. see how that works out for you. >> bill: i would like to see how fast he would have been decked if he had tried that. >> number one i think obama could take him but it wouldn't even come to that. >> bill: mitt would be saying

go tagg, go, tagg! yeah. nice family values, thank you mitt and ann. >> is that a threat? it could be taken that way. >> bill: i'll ask my friend who works for the secret service. >> you should! >> bill: let me -- i'll tweet him right now. i'll text him right now. we'll find out. on the libya thing again just nonsense to think what the president said of the morning after in the rose garden and i was there friends talking about benghazi, talking about libya, talking about nothing else, the secretary of state standing right by his side. praises, condemns the attack, condemns the attack, expresses his sorrow and praises chris stevens then expresses his resolve. dan, i want to hear it one more time talking about benghazi and other attacks against the united states.

>> obama: no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation. alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. >> bill: romney says oh, we don't know for sure he was talking about libya. as outrageous as that is, it is another outrageous that the networks say romney might be right. even candy crowley came back down -- they have a point. no, they don't. they don't have a point at all. kathleen is in hammond indiana. hi kathleen. what's going on? >> caller: good morning, bill. first time caller. i've been watching your show. i used to watch that morning buffoon show. >> bill: you mean the shut up mica show? >> caller: he is just unbearable. i have been screaming about this for two years! why in heaven's name is the media letting this lying creep get away with this and now his son has the audacity -- you see

what i mean about this uppity, snotty, i can do whatever i want and you want that guy to be president? and one more quick thing i would love to say i think it would be a good idea for somebody to look into -- you know, romney wants to up the defense budget by $2 trillion. wouldn't it be a good idea for someone to delve deep into his so-called blind trust to see how he's going to profit by upping -- by putting $2 trillion into the defense spending and see how his blind trust so-called blind trust is going to profit from it. >> bill: that's a great point kathleen. i think probably there are a lot of bain companies that would get some of those contracts. good to hear from you kathleen. tell all of your friends too tune in and give us a call. bill up in new york city. hi bill. >> caller: how you doing bill? >> bill: i'm doing good.

thanks for joining us. >> caller: i got through twice in a week. i'm surprised. i've been trying for months. >> bill: it is a roll of the dice bill. you're lucky this morning. we're lucky this morning. go ahead. >> caller: as far as the media is concerned republicans are always crying that the president has them in his pocket. how is it the president has them in his pocket when it is common sense the very next day, he says act of terror. what the hell is he talking about? world war i? world war ii? it is ridiculous. >> bill: if i went back -- i could do this, i could find the e-mail that i got as a member of the press corps that said the schedule had been changed one thing had been added to the schedule. the president was going to make remarks in the rose garden about the terrorist -- they didn't say terrorist attack. about the event in libya. so that's what he was talking about. very clear bill.

>> caller: and as far as tagg is concerned, he better bring his brothers if he's going to go after president obama. >> bill: it will take all five of them. >> you got it. especially the look that he gave him after he offended the ambassador and the secretary. >> bill: thank you bill. thanks. ann is in warrenton virginia. key swing state here. president obama going out to -- tomorrow to fairfax, virginia. hi, ed, good morning. >> caller: good morning, how are you? >> bill: i'm good, thanks. >> caller: first time caller. really do enjoy your show. >> bill: well, thank you. glad to have you on board. >> caller: i just would like to say where -- these phony -- they allow them to step all over him. anything to say he walk all over them. their opinion don't mean anything. >> bill: i guess they just like getting their mug on television but my advice would

be if they want to get their mug on television and be treated respectfully and allowed to finish a sentence, then the place to come is the "full court press." it's morning bill, not morning joe, wouldn't you say? >> i like it. >> bill: and peter is a much better looking than mica. we know that. thank you. how about ricky in st. paul, minnesota. you can cross-dress, you know. >> for this show, i would do it. >> bill: whoa. >> i got that on tape. i did get that on tape. >> bill: starting tomorrow morning. nune tomorrow, folks. ricky, caller from st. paul, minnesota. hi ricky. >> caller: good morning. hey, first time calling and it feels good to finally talk to someone who's talking something sensible. >> bill: i appreciate that. welcome. welcome. >> caller: i live up here in

minnesota, beautiful home of michele bachmann and tim pawlenty so i'm used to hearing insane things on the media. when it comes to some of the -- some of the extreme right wing people have to say. so i'm not surprised to hear anything comes to defending their candidate. i still believe that money is controlling the media here. and there's so much money being passed along to these stations and they all want ratings and everything so i don't let it bother me as much because i know -- no telling what they're going to say. >> bill: that's a good point. no doubt that the people who are really racking up the big bucks in this election season are the tv stations and the networks. i mean -- i was watching the news last night and there were five spots in a row and they were all campaign spots. now, in washington, d.c., we're so close to virginia, there were presidential spots. and maryland. maryland spots and virginia

spots but five in a row. all campaign spots. big bucks are going right into -- maybe that's why the media is so good to romney. when we come back, take just a little time out to talk to susan page, the washington bureau chief for "usa today." get her take on what happened tuesday night. >> announcer: heard around the country and seen on current tv, this is the "bill press show." for less tug and pull, so you can shave against the grain comfortably. (vo) during the debates, it's hard to know what candidates are thinking. unless, of course you've stood at the podium yourself. with governors granholm, spitzer, and vice president gore, watch the only truly experienced presidential debate coverage. [ quarterback ] set...hut! [ grunting ] [ crowd cheers ] [ male announcer ] clay matthews is turning the nfl upside-down.

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the top of the hour. the "full court press" on this thursday october 18. good to have you with us. we've been talking about this flak which i think is totally invented as to whether or not president obama was actually talking about libya on september 12 in the rose garden. i was there when he used the phrase "acts of terror." if he wasn't talking about libya, what was he talking about? peter, you mentioned tagg romney saying he felt like he wanted to jump up on stage and take a swing -- >> at obama. we're getting a lot of comments on twitter at bp show. andrew says this comment shows willard's family has gone wild and they're all out of touch. we had somebody else comment do you think that tagg romney has ever taken a swing at anything? which, i mean, they don't look like fighters, those romneys. >> bill: well, they certainly didn't take a swing at a military uniform.

we know that. joining us, the washington bureau chief for "usa today," susan page. she's been to all three debates. hi susan. >> hey bill. i'm watching you on current tv. it is pretty exciting. >> hi, susan. >> bill: you have to come in studio next time. >> that would require getting out of my pajamas. >> bill doesn't get out of his pajamas. >> bill: susan, i have to tell you, i was thinking about you last weekend. i flew into new hampshire. susan, i flew into new hampshire once for the joe biden campaign way back in 2000. it is the first time i've been in new hampshire when it was not icy cold and you know, snow on the ground and first time i've ever been there other than for a primary. >> you know, iowa, too. now we're going back to iowa when the corn is green. >> bill: what a difference. >> it is nice. they're much nicer states when you're not encased in boots and

hats and gloves and freezing. >> bill: now having been to all three debates you've got to admit, big difference between the second presidential debate and the first one huh? >> no kidding. i mean -- in some ways, it is a pretty classic pattern isn't it of presidents don't seem to be fully engaged in the first debate then they get serious. >> bill: look at george bush. >> look at ronald reagan in his re-election campaign. >> bill: that is interesting. maybe they feel why do i have to go through this, right. so they let the first one slide and then they realize hey, this is -- this is serious stuff. there are a lot of moments in the debate, susan, a lot of phrases that will linger, perhaps. i thought the president came up with one and he had a lot of fun with it yesterday on the road out in ohio. actually, this is in his first stop in iowa. where he talked about mitt

romney's tax plan and the numbers not adding up. here is a quick clip from yesterday. >> obama: everybody here has heard of the new deal. you've heard of the fair deal. you've heard of the square deal. mitt romney's trying to sell you a sketchy deal. >> bill: sketchy deal. had a ring to it, right? >> yeah. i think that the obama campaign thinks this tax issue is a good one for them, talking about asking the wealthiest americans to pay -- to not get a tax cut letting the bush tax cuts expire for the wealthy. that's an issue that resonates with people as you look for ways to make things balanced, share the pain of trying to get this deficit down and so on. >> bill: is there any -- is it too soon to know whether there's any bounce for the president out of tuesday's debate? >> i think we know it takes a few days for people to kind of digest the debate and figure out

what they think and for it to be reflected in the poll that have a rolling average in the gallup's case -- gallup poll yesterday had romney up 6 among registered voters. that's a record lead but that doesn't factor -- among likely voters. that doesn't really factor in the effects from the debate. i think we have to wait a couple of days for that. >> bill: are you in the field with the poll? >> we're not. >> bill: to what extent -- these debates seem to me to have more impact and more importance than previous presidential debates. am i just making that up or do they really -- what is their impact? >> i think the debates this year have had a big impact partly because the race is so close in 2008, at this point, the race wasn't that close. you really needed a hail mary performance by john mccain if he was going to win the election. in this case, the election had been trending.

president obama's way. that first debate brought it right back. >> bill: evened things out. >> i think this -- vice president biden's performance got -- stopped the bleeding from the first presidential debate. in the second debate, i don't think it was quite the knockout that romney's victory was in the first debate but i think we know that president obama had a good night. and it has been helpful for him. we assume although i think we need to wait a couple of days to see what the polls show us. >> bill: the next one is monday night. what can we expect? >> well, it is on foreign policy. so that's interesting. since that's not the issue that people care about most. but libya has become a big issue and was maybe the most heated exchange -- >> bill: absolutely. >> in the debate in new york. you know i think the foreign policy debate will be as much about leadership as it is about actual differences in approaching foreign policy. >> bill: it is going to be interesting because clearly

foreign policy is not mitt romney's strong suit. it is like nobody's long suit before they become president. then suddenly it is. >> except in the case of the elder george bush, it was his long suit. >> bill: susan good to see you. we look forward to seeing you pajamas and all one of these days. >> thanks, bill. >> bill: susan page, washington bureau chief for "usa today." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." now find the most hard core driver in america. that guy, put him in it. what's this? [ male announcer ] tell him he's about to find out. you're about to find out. [ male announcer ] test it. highlight the european chassis 6 speed manual, dual exhaust wide stance, clean lines have him floor it, spin it punch it, drift it put it through its paces is he happy? oh ya, he's happy! [ male announcer ] and that's

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to join the conversation. by sounding off and giving us a call at 1-866-55-press. good to have you with us today and i gotta tell you talk about trying to reinvent yourself. mitt romney now claims that he cares about women and yet he says he will cut funding for planned parenthood, he will deny women access to contraception. he wants to repeal healthcare or obamacare and he named todd akin's sidekick as his running mate! another big mitt romney lie! let's talk about that and a whole lot more here. first, today's current news update standing by in los angeles, lisa ferguson. hi lisa. here you go. take it away. >> thanks, bill. good morning everyone. we have just one debate left to go before election day. by most accounts, president obama came out on top of tuesday night's debate. and yes, we are seeing a bit of shifting in the polls. what does this really mean for the election? the candidates need 270

electoral votes to take the white house. according to today's "huffington post" analysis, president obama has 217 in the bag. romney has 191 and 55 electoral votes are up for grabs. these are coming from just a handful of swing states where there are just a few undecided voters. but these are the people who could turn the election. and really the only people likely to change their vote after the debates. cnn has those voters divvied up into six categories, the millennials, long-term unemployed the catholic latino single woman and evangelicals, what matters most to these voters? things like jobs and the economy but also things like caring for the poor and women's rights. so that's why those are the types of issues we'll hear from the candidates over the next few weeks. and on the topics of women's rights romney is still refusing to say how he -- what he thinks about the lilly ledbetter fair

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>> thank you. thank you, thank you. climb out. >> bill: you're okay. >> am i all right? >> we had to break her out of a binder. >> i was in a binder. >> bill: yes. microphone was hiding you. >> when i first heard it, i was trying to figure out are we talking about foot binding? is it corsets? or is it just women stuffed? in a binder? >> bill: but then it turns out he didn't do what he said. he didn't say no, i don't want all of these men. i'm going to call the women's organizations and ask them to identify and find me some women candidates. no, the women did the work ahead of time and when he -- whoever was elected would have gotten the pile of resumes, they came to him and said here are some women that you should consider. so he lied about the whole thing. >> i fell for it until i read it in the boston phoenix a little bit later. i fell for that. >> bill: unfortunately, a lot of people watching fell for it.

that's the power of the lies. >> i think it came out during the course of the day that was a lie. i do think it came out. >> "boston globe" reported the number of women -- he started without a high percentage. by the end of the term, it was way back to where it used to be. >> the women he appointed to the headships, he did appoint them to the head of agencies were not apparently critical agencies to him, things like budget. he didn't appoint them to places like that. >> bill: right. >> romney: binders full of women. >> bill: binders. peter said he had binders full of women. >> i got in some trouble. i told my wife about the binders of women i had when i was in college. >> equivalents of little black books. >> i had quite a binder back in the day. >> bill: our team here to join you, victoria, peter ogborn, dan henning. >> peter is working very hard on that project. >> bill: cyprian bowlding. he's got a special project.

cyprian, our videographer. barry and joe were on the trail yesterday, back on the campaign trail. both of them having fun bouncing out of tuesday night's debate. president obama getting right down saying i really want your vote. i really, really want you to vote for me. >> obama: i'm not too proud to beg. i want you to vote. >> he should sing that. >> he could do it. >> bill: please vote for me. he was having fun yesterday really. talked about mr. coal and the sketchy deal. >> sketchy deal. >> etch-a-sketch deal. >> bill: great phrase. and joe biden -- picking up on the binder comment said i can tell you where to find some qualified -- one qualified woman. here he is. >> the idea to go and ask where qualified women were, he should have come to my house. he didn't need a binder.

he didn't need a binder. [ cheering ] >> he's on a roll. >> bill: jill biden is one impressive lady. >> i know. i got the impression that the president was not comfortable at the beginning of the debate. he wanted to be on point angry. he was angry because he despises this man but at some point, i don't know when it was exactly he realized that he needled romney and he started to relax and smile. and then it was almost like he was in the basketball game and he started to almost trash talk him. >> bill: which he does, by the way. >> he does trash talk. >> bill: a word has come out that's what he does. >> that's when he starts to do the things like proceed governor. >> bill: go on governor. get out of my face. go on. >> you even tweeted that.

he smelled blood in the water. he could see it. >> yeah. my pension is not as big as yours. those are the words of a very confident man. no man ever says my something's not as big as yours unless they're a very comfortable man. >> bill: we'll let that just slide. victoria is in studio. >> my binder full of women is not big but it had a lot of personality and a great sense of humor. >> bill: will the two of you stop it right now. 12 minutes after the hour. victoria is here as a "friend of bill." we'll get into the 31 lies in 41 minutes but first... >> this is the "full court press." >> bill: dan. >> bill, other headlines making news on this thursday. a big day in the continue downfall of lance armstrong yesterday. the cyclist who continues to maintain innocence in his doping scandal stepped down as chair of his livestrong cancer charity saying he didn't want to be a distraction. then nike and anheuser-busch, his two biggest sponsors dropped their endorsement citing

insurmountable evidence of doping according to the "l.a. times." nike has sponsored lance since 1996. >> bill: they could stick with tiger but lance is too much. lance armstrong has made over $100 million in endorsements. don't feel sorry for lance armstrong. he isn't going to be in the food kitchen. >> washing clean dishes, you mean? >> joe biden has a good time laughing at himself. the vice president telling abc yesterday he really enjoyed watching last weekend's "saturday night live" where jason sudden ache is spoofed his performance. he said he laughed his head off saying sudeikis is so good, it scares him. >> bill: gotta laugh at stuff like that otherwise it would drive you crazy. >> i think it will be a good one this weekend. >> it better be. >> tv and radio are making a lot of money thanks to this election. ad buying firme smg delta reports political ad spending is on track to reach or come close

to $1 billion this election cycle. buyers supporting both obama and romney have already spent over $800 million in advertising so far. the romney campaign and all of the outside groups supporting it have spent just over $450 million while the obama campaign and all of his supporting super pacs have spent over $350 million. >> bill: the first billion dollar presidential campaign. thank you citizens united. >> you think it's going to come down to the ads or come down to the debate? >> bill: i don't think it's going to come down to the ads. there are so many ads out there right now. we'll find out. i think after awhile, they just become -- people just turn them off. >> noise. >> bill: yeah, noise. exactly. victoria, it is interesting that in the first debate, think progress, they came up with this -- they identified 27 -- they called them myths, we

should say. not lies. let's just call them lies. they identified 27 myths in 38 minutes. of. >> yes. >> bill: what's really got a lot of buzz out there judd legum from think progress comes in every tuesday. never got so much reaction. just got picked up and went viral. so then they did whatever they did for paul ryan and vice presidential but volsky from think progress was in yesterday morning. i asked him what's the count? he said we're still counting. we think it is going to be a new record. they came out with yesterday 31 myths mitt romney, in 41 minutes. it is almost like everything he said -- nothing he said was true. >> it's quite extraordinary. and i've been looking at them this morning. and there were some of them that, you know, they've been correcting and they've been generous in their correction because they've even missed some things in their corrections. for example, one on healthcare,

his thing on healthcare, when he's talking about -- he said by now middle income families would have a reduction in their health insurance premiums and it's gone up. that's very sketchy anyway because it is very hard to quantify this. because some people's health premiums have gone up. some people's have gone down. it is very hard to do this. but he talked about what's come into effect with the affordable care act. but they missed something really crucial which is that now hospitals have to justify -- you know, they have to pay the premiums based on efficiency of service, not on quantity of service. this is huge. >> bill: it is huge. the other thing they missed there, i believe is the fact that there have been rebates -- insurance companies have been forced to pay -- i think it is almost a billion dollars in rebates because there is a

formula now they have to spend so much on health insurance as opposed to administration if they're spending too much on administration, they have to refund their policyholders and they have done so. >> my friend got one. >> bill: that's another check. i want to come back with perhaps the biggest lie of all. which is mitt romney saying that president obama took 14 days before he -- we've been talking about this on the show this morning. before he used the phrase -- and called what happened at benghazi an act of terror. you and i were in the rose garden on september 12 as members of the white house press corps. here is what the president said. closing his remarks i have to say, after we heard him -- he praised chris stevens he expressed his sorrow for chris stevens and his family. he condemned the violence and wrapped up with this resolve. >> obama: no act of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation. alter that character or eclipse

the light of the values that we stand for. >> bill: mitt romney says oh he wasn't clear -- that's not clear that he was talking about benghazi. >> okay so he had spent the entire speech talking about benghazi and so he suddenly veers away from benghazi for some inexplicable reason. >> bill: they called a statement -- called a special event, a statement by the president in the rose garden with the secretary of state to talk about benghazi and he's not talking about benghazi. >> he talked about an act of terror on the 13th also but then there's this whole weirdo thing about terror -- act of terror versus terrorism. this is very childish. apparently mitt romney didn't use the word terrorism or terror for 20 days. >> bill: think progress has reported that as well. it was like 20 days. here's what gets me. why is the media -- why don't they just laugh this off as a stupid attempt on the part of the romney campaign to try to avoid the embarrassment of romney getting it wrong.

instead, i watched network news last night on cbs, and on nbc and on both of them, they went out of their way to say romney may have a point. it is not clear he was talking about benghazi. it drives me freakin' crazy. >> i don't know why this aspect of the debate -- it is not bad for obama because it was very strong piece for him. i'm not sure why this part of the debate is actually getting all of the attention because it was actually irrelevant. it was not about substance. i would rather they focus on obama's closing statement about the 47%. >> bill: oh, yeah. >> why don't they focus on that on romney opening the door with his i care about 100% of the people and then obama's closing that is actually about substance. both of them were about substance. >> bill: yes. lies. other lies, mitt romney. he said -- he said toward the end of the debate that assault weapons are perfectly -- are already -- we don't need any new you laws because assault weapons

are illegal in this country. dead wrong. right? the assault weapons ban expired in 2004. >> this is extraordinary. they are legal. they are legal. >> bill: don't you think he ought to know that? he banned them by the way as governor of massachusetts. >> i think he does know that. he either doesn't know or he does know and it is a question of is it a lie or is it ignorance? and i don't know which. i really don't know which. >> bill: he also -- pretending, of course, now to be the champion of women. >> yes. >> bill: we talked about the binders of women which turned out to be a lie. he also said he thinks that every woman in -- every american woman should have access to contraception and yet he supported the blunt amendment which -- lost in the senate fortunately but which would have said that employers will make the decision as to whether their women employees get access to

contraceptives. >> aren't they trying to clarify that now a little bit? >> bill: in what sense? >> i don't know. i saw a thing on tv they're trying to sort of walk around that a little bit. tiptoe. >> bill: what it said was the employer said -- roy blunt -- his liaison to the -- the senate's liaison to the campaign, roy blunt who said the employer decides if the female employees in that company get contraception as part of their healthcare or not. mitt romney supported that. that he supported it. so how can he make these kind of statements? they're just starting. we've identified three four, five. of the lies. i don't like calling them myths. i like calling them lies in 41 minutes. victoria jones is with us as are all of you. your calls at 1-866-55-press. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." truly experienced presidential debate coverage.

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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: this is the "bill >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: you bet. 26 minutes after the hour. victoria jones in studio with us. peter, we're talking the second debate. particularly the 31 lies told by mitt romney according to think progress. what's the buzz on twit summer. >> lot of stuff on twitter. we're tweeting at bp show. one person pointed out to put this into context. everyone knows that paul ryan told a lot of lies at the vice presidential debate. he told 24 myths in 40 minutes so mitt romney outdid him with the 31 in 41. >> he should. he's at the top of the ticket. >> robby bloomfield tweets us,

the mainstream media is a joke. they've been bought. if the price is right they'll say anything. that's why they're covering up the fact that mitt told so many lies. we have another tweet the media is all about the money not the facts. >> bill: victoria, we were talking about mitt romney now claiming to be the candidate who is best for women. i hate to use the old cliche, i think a woman who votes for mitt romney is like a chicken voting for colonel sanders. how can he say he was a candidate for women when he showed such disrespect for candy crowley? >> both candidates bickered. having looked at the presidential mum dumb of -- memorandum of agreement they weren't supposed to ask questions of each other. certain things they weren't supposed to do to the moderator. >> bill: romney showed disdain for candy. >> i kept saying what the rules were to her and the rules he were claiming were not the rules because i looked at them. he was disdainful to candy crowley. obama was careful not to, even

if it meant he had to defer to romney at certain points. at risk of looking weak, which he did not do, i thought. romney was overbearing and women don't like that. >> bill: you know, we know -- there is -- there has been such a thing as a republican war on women. mitt romney is part of that. defunding planned parenthood, repealing obamacare naming paul ryan as his running mate. todd akin's buddy right? >> exactly. todd akin's buddy. somebody who doesn't support abortion under any circumstances. >> bill: anti-choice. you add it all up, he says no. i'm the candidate who is best for women. nobody believes that except ann romney. if she believes it. >> that's a good question. >> bill: wonder how she's going to vote. i'm afraid we do. so we'll be joined by coral davenport by "national journal" next and get into the lies that mitt romney told about energy

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>> announcer: this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: binders and binders full of women we've got them here on the "full court press." 33 minutes after the hour. victoria jones talk radio news here as a "friend of bill" of this hour. now joined by coral davenport for "national journal." ladies, good to see you. >> good morning. >> i'm in a binder. >> bill: 33 minutes after the

hour. here on the "full court press" this thursday. join the conversation any time at 1-866-55-press. the "full court press" brought to you today by the sheet metalworkers international association. the good men and women of the sheet metalworkers union. giving a fair day's work for a fair day's pay. you bet. under president joe nigro. go to smwia.org. so victoria, coral victoria and i have been thinking about think -- have been talking about think progress has identified 31 myths told by mitt romney in 41 minutes. a lot of them had to do with energy. energy took -- >> 12 minutes of the debate which is -- for a 90-minute debate. >> bill: you got your issue in there. you must have talked to some of those people in the audience. that was good. but some of the things that mitt romney said, i want to ask you about. first of all, he said that there was a question about gas prices.

why hasn't obama done more about gas prices. why did the secretary of energy say it is not government's role to keep gas prices down. mitt romney claimed that production under president obama, oil and gas production is down 14%. he said under president obama there's been no drilling on federal lands public lands. he also said that president obama rejected the keystone pipeline. so let's take them in order. gas price. is it the government's role? >> the questioner specifically asked if it is the energy department's role to set gas prices. the answer is no. it is the energy department's job to guard our arsenal of nuclear weapons. that's its primary purview. that's most of what its budget goes for. it is not the government's job to set gas prices. gas prices are dependent on the global price of oil. that is set on a global market by supply and demand. that's probably as it should be. nations that do control their country's gas prices such as

venezuela, huge government subsidies. it is generally not looked at as good policy. neither candidate gave an honest answer to that question. >> bill: if they say there's not much we can do about it, it sounds like they're just not doing their job? >> but it's true. >> bill: it really is true. >> it does sound like that. you have to say something. and you've gotta sound like you're doing something. but the problem with this one is secretary chu says something that -- >> bill: that happened to be true. >> that happened to be true. he's an honest man and he's a scientist and he's sorta goofy. but he's very straightforward and then the politicians in the obama administration constantly have to go around and clean up his honest messes. >> bill: gas price has always been a political football.

>> even though the government doesn't control them. government does not control the price of gas and you know, obama has addressed that on some speeches but he was a little bit too chicken to just be forthright and honest in his answer on this. >> bill: also, it might have been hard to explain you know, in a forum like that -- now here's the truth about gas prices. it is almost like it is a college course. >> it is. but i wonder -- do you think people get that? because i think people get that there is a global market. >> bill: romney's counting on -- on the fact that they don't. let's talk about oil energy production. according to mitt romney, energy production is down 14% under president obama. >> in fact, energy production has risen. we are actually now less than 50% dependent on foreign oil for the first time in over a decade. and drilling now is at its highest in the gulf since before

the gulf spill. there has actually been a dramatic -- significant increase in drilling on lands and waters and private land. significant increase on private land drilling which you know, doesn't really have anything to do with the administration but drilling and oil production overall are actually up in the united states. >> bill: victoria, i saw on cbs news last night that the 14% figure romney uses is a report from the interior department of one year. it happens to be the year of the bp oil spill where production did fall because thank god they did shut down production in the gulf until we knew what the hell was going on. but for that year it was down 14%. overall, oil production according to cbs is up 13% under obama and natural gas is up 14% production under president obama. over george w. bush and as president obama said in the debate, which was an oil man. romney keeps using that 14 pest

figure. >> exactly. and why not. if you've got the 14% for one year why not use it? >> bill: because it's a lie. >> of course. but if you've got 14% in one year. >> bill: he says it is down 14% under obama. >> it is not true. and it is a fudge and it is obfuscation and it is very unfair. but that's what he's got. he kept doing this -- you know, sort of answer my question thing of asking a question, asking a question asking a question. by the way, this was a complete breach of the rules whereby it says in one subparagraph on its own, you may not direct a question to your opponent. it says you can't do that. and he wouldn't allow the president to answer the question in his own way. which the president eventually did do. >> bill: so the third thing coral, is according to mitt romney, there may have been some drilling on private lands but no drilling on federal lands so the government has been withholding

all permits. >> there's certainly been drilling on federal lands. however, the dramatic increase in natural gas production has been largely on private lands. by private companies. that much is fair to say. that huge increase. there has certainly been drilling. major drilling on federal lands in federal waters. >> bill: in federal waters, too, right? >> a significant increase in gulf drilling which is federal waters. that's gone up since -- higher level than it was before the gulf spill. >> the president has opened up the atlantic coast from new jersey to florida. they may not be actually drilling out there yet. but they're exploring correct? >> they're not exploring. but in the five-year plan, those -- those areas could eventually be open for leasing. >> bill: right. for the first time. which i'm not so happy about. having a beach house in delaware. but anyhow.

>> understood. >> bill: seen enough of that in california. finally -- not finally but the four that i identified quickly president romney -- >> oh! >> i can hit the dump button. >> bill: thank you. governor romney at one point and the president didn't really respond to this. he said so why did you reject that pipeline? did the president reject the pipeline? >> the pipe -- no. >> bill: thank you. >> he punted on making a decision. >> bill: he had to. i mean they didn't finish the review of it. yeah, he could have said we'll forget about any environmental review about a pipeline that crosses ten states is it? i forget. >> it crosses the whole country. it goes from canada to the gulf coast. >> bill: yeah. forget about all of the environmental sensitive areas that it hases and just build the

pipeline but they had not completed the environmental process. >> to be fair, president obama actually was on track. the state department was on track to approve the pipeline last year. until environmentalists really rallied and made a huge issue of this. you remember they rallied around the white house with a pipeline around the white house. that made a big impact. >> bill: i also remember the republican governor of north dakota said we don't want it through north dakota. the republican governor of north dakota. >> didn't nebraska kick up a fuss too? >> the states through which the pipeline is going to pass, it passes through the aquifer which is a major water supply. and so what the administration has done is put off a decision until after the election and under further environmental review. so it is not rejected. >> bill: meanwhile, they did build the first link, right? from what is it? houston to -- whatever the president went out there -- >> to oklahoma.

>> bill: maybe the last link. oklahoma to the oil refineries. we may still get stuck with this damn pipeline. i think we will. >> i would not be surprised if president obama were to be elected to a second term, i wouldn't be surprised to see them go ahead and approve the pipeline. at the end of the day. >> i think they will. >> bill: i think they will, too. i regret to say. but the point is for the purpose of this debate -- >> he did not reject it. >> bill: he did not reject it. did mitt romney say anything true tuesday night? >> did he have binders full of women. i actually did a story about that about eight months ago. i was doing a story about romney and women and i interviewed the people who he had worked with as governor of massachusetts. they said you know, he was an aggressive recruiter of women and he had these binders. had these binders and binders. >> bill: did he ask for the binders or were the binders

delivered to him. >> he asked for them. >> that's not what "the boston globe" and the boston phoenix said. >> bill: we'll get to the bottom of that with coral davenport and victoria jones and our own binder full of women here on the "full court press." your calls welcome at 1-866-55-press. >> romney: binders full of women. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." (vo) during the debates, it's hard to know what candidates are thinking. unless, of course you've stood at the podium yourself. with governors granholm, spitzer, and vice president gore, watch the only truly experienced presidential debate coverage. jack you're a little boring. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes!

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change. which does not seem to factor into mitt romney's energy proposal or republican energy proposal generally. so you know, any economist or scientist will tell you we probably need to start doing that right now. and the biggest thing that -- >> bill: all of the above is the way to go. >> yeah. the biggest thing that president obama has done so far on energy is he's put forth a very, very aggressive increased fuel economy standards for cars so that we'll be able to drive as far as we were on a lot less gasoline. we'll use a lot less. >> bill: it is about time. victoria, every time i hear the republicans accuse president obama, he spent $90 billion on alternative energy, i think that's the figure on solar and wind and geothermal. i say yes! right? >> i know. it is said in an accusatory tone as if this is a bad thing and then, of course, solyndra -- the one or two failures but the idea

is that we always have to keep backwards with only coal and -- or fossil fuels and not think about anything visionary and yet we're given the idea that republicans are a visionary party. and so there is a disconnect there. i don't understand it. i don't understand it at all. >> bill: i think the president does make a strong point when he says look, we're going to be building wind turbines and solar panels. i want the bill here. this is the huge and there are jobs there. not only loses our dependency on fossil fuels but there are green jobs. >> there is a real technology race, a global technology race going on right now. the energy sources are going to be a big part of whatever the future of the global economy is. and so the president and secretary, too have said someone's going to be a leader

in this. there's a pile of money to be made. there's an industry to dominate. we're going in that direction. >> bill: we ought to be in that race. i want to take a quick call if we can join the conversation, dave has been very patient calling from chicago. hi dave, good morning. >> caller: good morning. i love your show. this is a great conversation. >> bill: thank you. >> caller: i have a question about mr. romney's first point of his five-point plan in quotes. he wants energy independence. i understand to be a fallacy. with markets and global companies, if our oil is more expensive elsewhere then those companies will shift that oil to the places that can make more profit. so unless they federalize oil companies, we won't ever have energy independence. >> bill: dave, thanks.

take your answer on the air. so is energy independence -- >> i hate the term energy independence. i think it emerged with dick cheney's energy task force during the bush administration and has kind of been thrown around. it's looking right now -- the u.s. is producing a lot more oil. than we thought we were going to, even five years ago. and we are on track for north america. that's the -- the combination of united states, canada and mexico. north america will probably -- could produce as much oil as it consumes sometimes within the next 20 years. part of that is that we're consuming less. as i said, we're using less fuel in our cars. so we might be able to produce the same amount that we consume. however, we won't be independent of whatever the prices will be. that in no way will shield us from high or volatile prices because prices are set on the global market. >> bill: it is an interesting

concept that in the global market, any country one country be totally energy independent. >> yes exactly. this global technology race, we never think globally of the country. we're very ins lar and we need to open our eyes to what's going on. >> bill: you guys are great. thank you, victoria for coming in as a "friend of bill" for the whole hour. great to see you. coral, always good to have you here. >> good to be here. >> bill: thank you both. i'll be back and tell what you the president is up to today. another busy day on the trail. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >>only on current tv. dose of politics from a fresh perspective. >>i'm a slutty bob hope. the troops love me. >>only on current tv.

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>> bill: good morning, everybody. good to see you this morning. it is thursday, october 18. and welcome to the "full court press." here on current tv. where we bring you up to date on the news of the day and give you a chance to talk about it. give us a call always at 1-866-55-press. well, if you found it hard to believe some of the things mitt romney was saying in tuesday night's debate now you know why. according to think progress and

they keep track of such things, mitt romney told 31 lies in 41 minutes. including the fact, as we just discussed that oil production and gas production is down under president obama compared to president bush. it's actually way up! and bush was an oil man. so just remember that. for monday night's debate. you know mitt romney is lying when his lips are moving. all right. we'll tell you more about it and take your calls but first time now to get the current news update. we go back to los angeles and say good morning again to lisa ferguson. hi lisa. >> hey bill. good morning everyone. mark leader is making up to mitt romney with a couple of extra fund-raisers this weekend. the last time romney spoke at leaders' home in palm beach florida, someone secretly recorded him saying 47% of americans are dependent on the government. we now know that video made big headlines and caused some big

problems for the romney campaign. leader says he needs to make up for the situation by helping romney raise more money. he is listed as a host at a boca raton victory dinner this friday. $25,000 a plate. and saturday night, he's holding another fund-raiser in palm beach. unlike his last famous event this one will not be at his home. and we're betting they'll be strict on what cameras they let in. president obama is done attending fundraisers for his own campaign but he is helping a new york archdiocese raise money. cardinal timothy dolan invited both the president and mitt romney to speak. that sparked a bit of an uproar but also some big donations. the fund-raiser is tonight and they're on track to raise $5 million. turning to other money issues, congress needs to deal with tax hikes and spending cuts taking place next year. economists are dubbing that the fiscal cliff but the president says he's ready to play hardball. he says he will veto any bill that hits his desk. if it does not include tax hikes

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here on capitol hill. good to see you this morning. thanks for being part of the program. and particularly appreciate your joining in any way you can in the conversation. lots of ways to do so. join the chat room and i'll talk about the issues with your fellow "full court pressers" across the land by going to current.com and clicking on the chat room. you can go follow us on twitter at bpshow. on facebook, facebook.com/billpressshow or give us a call at 1-866-55-press. it sounds so old-fashioned today to say actually use the telephone but that works. 1-866-55-press. we've been talking energy in the last hour. we want to talk education. beginning of this hour. dr. steven morgan is a professor at cornell university. professor of social sciences. and the author of a new study called the consequences of international comparisons for

public support of k-12 education. dr. morgan, nice to see you. is it professor or doctor? >> professor is fine. steve is fine as well. pleasure to be here. >> bill: thank you. particularly, you bring a breath of fresh air from ithaca, new york. we love ithaca, particularly -- >> go, bombers. >> bill: there you go. that's not cornell though. >> no. we're not the big red. we're the other school on the other hill in that town. >> we like it for the college as well. >> thank you. >> bill: dan alumnus of ithaca college. >> so you have a lot to live up to sir. [ laughter ] >> i'll do my best. >> bill: we're all part of 1470 a.m., wnyy. many good visits up there to the good people at wnyy. nice to have you in studio. with our regular team, peter ogborn and dan henning. phil backert on the phones and cyprian bowlding on video cameras this morning. president obama was out on the road yesterday having a lot of fun with some of the spillover

from the debate. one of the -- you may remember from the debate, talking about energy where mitt romney was accusing president obama of not being supportive enough of coal and president obama said ain't that funny! when you were governor of massachusetts, you stood in front of a coal plant and said we're going to shut down this plant because it kills people! and now suddenly, you're the big mr. coal? yeah, president obama had fun with that. >> obama: now he's running around talking like he's mr. coal. come on! come on. you know that's not on the level. did anybody actually look at that guy and think man he's really into coal. >> bill: i love the way he said come on! >> it's not on the level bill. >> he's into it. he knows what he's talking about. he's into it. >> bill: it is true. you see mitt romney walk in the door. they'll say right away, that's a coal man.

>> yeah, right! >> bill: so we're talking education with professor steve morgan. take your call. big issue at 1-866-55-press. then brad woodhouse, the communications director for the democratic national committee will be here to tell us what's happening post-debate. what we can expect in the rest of the campaign. but first... >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> checking the headlines you really need to know on this thursday morning. we'll soon learn more about the secret service sex scandal while they were protecting the president down in columbia. when the president was in colombia the maybe prostitute has wrote a deal. the memoir is called room service. suarez who also signed a lucrative tv and modeling deal will reportedly also defend herself in the book against accusations that she plotted to embarrass the secret service before hand. >> bill: she found her ticket, man. her ticket to ride.

were there any secret service agents up in the town of maine? >> taking the zumba class. >> mitt romney's binders full of women gaffe has exploded into a huge meme. a pro obama super pac is using the gaffe forever good. american bridge 21st century was the first to register the domain name binders full of women.com. just got it for $50. they were quick on the draw. they've created an in-depth web site where romney stands on all of women issues. >> full of statistics, actually. >> bill: peter threw out his when he got married. >> i had to throw out all of my binders of women. gets you in trouble. >> bill: he will always be known as mr. binders full of women. >> absolutely. >> grateful dead fans can -- >> bill: go ahead. >> grateful dead fans can soon toast a cold beer in the band's honor. the legendary rock band is partnering with the dog fish head craft brewery on a new beer

called american beauty. the ipa is set to have three key ingreppedients hops, barley and a third to be chosen by band -- be. >> i wonder what that would be. hmm, i wronder what herb or spice grateful dead fans might throw into a beer. what could that be? >> bill: they could smoke it while they're drinking it. >> just go to the web site and submit the third ingredient. if you win they'll fly you to delaware and you can take part in the brewing process. milton delaware. >> bill: i knew my home state was good for something. all right. 12 minutes after the hour. let me ask you is there any -- i want to hear about your study but first is there any big difference between mitt romney and barack obama on education? >> it is a little hard to tell these days exactly what mitt romney wants to do with education. there's certainly some differences though. >> bill: he lips a good game.

will he continue funding for head start, for example? early childhood education? do we know? >> i don't think we know. i think is the short answer. when he's been asked very specifically in debates and so forth, he tends to say things that would give one hope that he won't cut things drastically but i think anyone's guess what would happen if he were elected. >> bill: the debates -- he's for everything. energy independence, guaranteeing that all women have access to contraception. he's for -- it goes on and on whereas the reality of his position seems to contradict that. on education. for example on pell grants. he said tuesday night that he wants to continue pell grants for all students and everything and yet he supports the ryan budget which would cut pell grants. >> yeah. >> you know, i haven't read the exact line in the ryan budget on

the pell grant cut. i think the house bill that passed didn't cut pell grants because it was a mandated increase for the maximum pell grant. the question is how much money is overall available to fund students up to that maximum and it is unclear what he would do. he did say in his response to that college students' question that he would continue to -- i think he said he would let pell grants grow but it is not clear what that means. then he continued on to say and we'll have our loan program which, to my ears meant he's not going to have the obama loan program and he had in mind a change away from the subsidized loans. but i don't -- i have no inside knowledge on what that might be. >> bill: in fact, for the pell grants college grants -- college loans rather in general president obama did and he talked about that is get rid of the middle man which means that students can continue to get their loans at a good rate and more money goes to the students and less to the banks for the financial institutions.

>> right. i think that is a real achievement as far as i can tell. but it is not a huge difference. i mean pell grant budge set something on the order of -- it is in the billions. it might be as much as $15 billion. if you can get $60 million by cutting out the middle man that, will go to the students but overall, it won't radically change. >> bill: president obama also has differed from president bush's -- his education policies under arne duncan, secretary. quite different from no child left behind. one of the things i've heard at the white house and the press corps there is there are several states where they've said you know, give us a chance to get a little more flexibility in our states. republican governors and the obama administration has been working where them. working with the governors and the republican -- even republican governors seem to be happier with the obama -- we're talking k-12 here.

>> that's correct. i think that there's broad reckonognition that no child left behind which was the re-authorization of the elementary and secondary education act which was a bipartisan idea much of the ground work for that was laid during the clinton era. has perhaps had some small positive effects but not enough to justify the disruption that it's caused to an awful lot of school districts around the country. it is not surprising all states, when they were coming up against the 2014 deadline for making all students proficient were very interested in being released from some of the very strict requirements in the bill. and so the department of education did what it had to do -- i actually think if john mccain had won his department of education would have also worked out the same flexibility. >> bill: there was so much -- so many complaints about no child left behind like across the board. i think you're right.

>> right. >> bill: give ourselves some distance from that. >> i don't think no child left behind has been mentioned in either of the first -- not any of the three debates. >> bill: i haven't heard it. >> the president mentions race to the top which is a -- his spin-off on no child left behind, trying to achieve similar but different objectives. he's not mentioned that i believe it is now 33 states are -- have been released. >> bill: that many? >> first round, it was a few. and everyone expects it will be 50 before 2014. it is now about 33. that are out. >> bill: steven morgan is our guest. professor of social science at the great cornell university. now, when you look at -- focus of your most recent paper on how the united states ranks compared to other countries how are we doing? >> there are a couple of way to answer that question. the first would be to just do the very obvious thing.

how are we doing in our schools today in comparison to how we did 30 or 40 years ago. the answer there is clear. if you look at reading test scores and math test scores on comparable tests, our reading scores have held pretty steady and our math scores have gone up a little bit. very steadily. >> bill: you're talking u.s. -- u.s. then versus -- >> but i always want to get out there the first point. our schools are not declining in quality. it is not the case our students are doing worse now than they did a generation ago. they're doing at least as well. >> bill: you hear that complaint. >> you hear all sort of opinions. i do worry as someone that likes to deal with facts that what gets lost in all of that confusing discourse is, in fact, that schools are doing pretty well and about as well if not better than they were 40 years ago. >> bill: public schools. >> public schools. >> so the nation's report card, the national assessment of educational progress which does standardized tests designed by educational testing service for

9-year-olds, 13-year-olds and 17-year-olds shows consistent growth in math since early '70s and pretty stable reading. >> bill: that's good. >> but that's not what we're talking about. >> bill: how are we doing compared to western europe? >> so -- if you watch a lot of sports, you'll see the exxon mobil let's solve this campaign. i don't know how many people have seen these. i see them all the time. and you'll frequently hear reference to international comparisons in math and science. and it is true that in recent studies, the u.s. has ranked 25th in the world. on average achievement for a test given to 15-year-olds. we're consistently behind in the ranking. some asian countries that we sometimes think of as competitors like japan and korea, some smaller asian countries like singapore. we're behind english-speaking

countries like new zealand australia and our archenemy of the canadians. but if you look -- >> bill: we're behind the canadians? >> we're gaining on them though. between 2003 and 2009, we've gained a bit on the canadians. they should watch out. however, the point is that yes he we do rank 25th. if you look at the range of scores, we're a little bit behind. >> bill: science the same thing? >> science is hard to measure. we're about the same. i think maybe 17th in science. i never pay attention to science because it is tough to get a test. >> what are you, a republican? you never pay attention to science? >> that's the problem. >> bill: james inhoff. >> you walked right into that. sorry. [ laughter ] >> we can't be trusted to say the right thing. no. actually, that's exactly my point. in the u.s., we have this extraordinary science curriculum because all sorts of local school districts can come up with their own version of science. as a result, how are we going to

do on a standardized test? it is not clear -- >> the science class you get in maine isn't the same you'll get in mississippi. >> it does not appear to be exactly the same. how much they're different is nothing i've done research on. it certainly is the case. there are other countries we're competing against on these tests that have national curricula where they have defined exactly what is to be taught. >> bill: how good are american schools compared to what your grandma used to know? or used to find when she went to school. or how good are american schools when they went to other countries? steve an morgan in studio with us. join the conversation at 1-866-55-press. here on the "full court press." we'll be right back. >> announcer: radio meets television. the "bill press show." now on current tv. (vo) during the debates, it's hard to know what candidates are thinking. unless, of course you've stood at the podium

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(vo) john fugelsang sees what happens. >> you know, blaming this economy on barack obama is kinda like blaming your hangover on the guy making breakfast. i like mitt romney but i'm sorry. they guy has flipped more than a crack house mattress. this campaign has become so toxic, beverly hills housewives are now injecting it into their foreheads. (vo) so current gave him a weekly show. >> i love romney's debate style, but i tell you, if i could be that stiff for 90 minutes, (vo) we probably won't regret it.

>> announcer: this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: joe cirincione is our guest from the ploughshares fund >> announcer: this is the "full court press." the "bill press show." live on your radio and on current tv. >> bill: 26 minutes after the hour. education, education important issue. didn't come up directly in the last presidential debate. but both mitt romney and barack obama did bring it in. steven morgan is a professor of social sciences at cornell university in studio with us. good to see you again. and author of the new paper looking at the consequences of international comparisons for public support of k-12 education. where can people find this? >> it is in an academic journal called educational researcher. unless you're one of the 30,000

members of the educational research association -- i'm sure you have some -- it will be on your desk if you're one of the 30,000. if not, you can get to it online but you might have to pay a little bit. >> bill: peter any comments -- >> at bp show. we did get a comment from barkway who says what romney would offer students are high-interest private loans to keep them on the debt wheel their entire lives. so that's one aspect of mitt romney's education plan. >> bill: another education story that i wanted to ask about. >> i wanted to bring this up because the french president -- >> bill: talking international. >> he wants to end homework as a part of a series of reforms to overhaul the country's education system. there is a local school -- >> in montgomery county, maryland that is getting rid of homework. they're suggesting read with your children. for 30 minutes a day. >> right. what's your thought? >> there is an active debate

among researchers on whether this would be a good idea. i have a second grader who does his math homework and we sit there with him and help him and my daughter is in kindergarten. she doesn't have much homework yet but she'll get some when she enters first grade. there is always a trade-off between having a longer school day versus sending the kids home to work with their parents and i think that eliminating homework would be fine if we had longer school days. more instruction occurred within schools. i'm worried that that eliminating some work at home may actually lower rates. but i think it is an open question. i think it is worth it. >> bill: for the record, i'm against doing away with homework because if i had to do it, damn it -- >> i always did my homework. i kind of enjoyed it. that's why i became a professor. my wife yelling at me for doing too much at home. >> bill: i'm not saying i enjoyed if. if i had to do it, damn it, kids today have to do it, too.

it is a great issue. very important. thanks so much for coming in. steven morgan, good to see you. congratulations. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." decide the election. current tv presents special event coverage of the presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> you're going to hear that used as a major talking point. (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >> now that's politially direct. >>start the night with a special live edition of "talking liberally with stephanie miller" at 7 eastern. only on current tv.

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nation's capital brad woodhouse who is the very, very busy -- he's as busy as a one-armed paperhanger, communications director of the dnc. particularly this week. >> it has been very good. been a good week but it has been a busy week. >> bill: still a lot of spillover and fallout from the debate tuesday night. which i want to talk to you. >> sure is. absolutely. >> bill: peter, in fact, there's one person who was in the audience, peter right, who was not very happy with what he heard. >> tagg romney, two gs by the way. tagg. he was in the audience. he gave an interview to a radio station in north carolina yesterday. he was not very pleased with barack obama the way that he handled mitt romney. >> what is it like for you to hear the president of the united states call your dad a liar? >> well, jump out of your seat and you want to rush down to the debate stage and take a swing at

him but you know you can't do that. >> take a swing at him. >> bill: he's talking about the president of the united states. >> look, you can kind of understand why the romney campaign was frustrated after the debate the other night. the president never called mitt romney a liar. he said he wasn't telling the truth. you can parse some words here. >> bill: by the way, mitt romney said that about president obama at the first debate and tuesday night. >> and -- the problem with the romney campaign was romney was exposed the other night. he was exposed -- his tax plan was exposed. this effort to politicize this tragedy in the middle east was exposed. i mean that was maybe one of the most telling exchanges in the debate. not just because the president got the better of romney and romney didn't know what he was talking about but that -- where his eyes lit up and he thought he had the president. it was like -- it was just the same poor instincts he had from the beginning. he wanted to take political advantage of a tragedy and you

know, in the end, i don't think the american people will let him get away with it. >> bill: i just want you to know that as a member of the white house press corps who was in the rose garden on september 12 that morning when we -- i got an e-mail during this show saying that an event had been added to the president's calendar -- >> right. >> bill: he was going out of town that day but an event was in the rose garden so he could make comments about what had happened in benghazi the night before. we went to the white house and we were taken to the rose garden to hear the president make comments about benghazi and the president was standing there alongside of the secretary of state. >> right. >> bill: and mourn the loss of chris stevens, his personal respect for chris stevens, condemn the violence and then said -- one more time. these are the exact words. how he ended up by expressing the resolve of all americans.

>> obama: no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation. alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. >> bill: brad, i want you to know take from me, he was talking about benghazi. >> of course he was. it was like steven said last night, he was being humorous but he was like well, how do we know he was talking about benghazi. it was only a speech about benghazi after an attack in benghazi, the day after the attack in benghazi. it is ridiculous. like the president said, bill, it is offensive and i believe in the end the american people -- >> bill: offensive for them to politicize it. >> offensive for them to politicize it. it is offensive for them to suggest that this president is -- doesn't recognize terrorism. is weak on terrorism. this is a guy who made the order to get bin laden. this is a guy who decimated al-qaeda. who has decimated the taliban.

you know, they're grasping at straws to try to commit the president with respect to his foreign policy. every time they do, they fail. mitt romney failed miserably the other night. >> bill: one thing the president said you can count on. when he said we're going to identify them. we're going to find them. yeah. ask osama bin laden. >> he's got a record of doing that. i think that the best comment from the other night -- the thing that i will always remember from that debate is that moment where he said please proceed, governor. it was like you are getting ready to walk into a pile of cow dung! please proceed. and he did. >> bill: he did. >> kept going down. >> as jon stewart said, it was not unlike wiley coyote and the roadrunner. he painted the tunnel on the side of the mountain and he ran right into it. >> please, keep going. >> bill: one of my favorite

parts of the debate is when the president just said -- the math here. your plan. you want to cut $5 trillion in tax cuts and then $2 trillion more in spending and another trillion for the bush tax cuts. and it doesn't add up and if you were a businessman, you wouldn't take this sketchy deal. yesterday in ohio, the president -- he's had a lot of fun with that. i think after etch-a-sketch this is the perfect phrase. here's the president yesterday. >> obama: mitt romney is trying to sell. >> sketchy deal. [ cheers & applause ] >> obama: but we're not buying it. we know better because this is the same sketchy deal that we were sold back in the previous administration. >> bill: it is amazing. everybody says that this plan doesn't add up and mitt romney says i'm a businessman. believe me. >> that was the most extraordinary thing. after that exchange where he had virtually no defense, candy came

back and said let's just say for the sake of argument that the numbers don't add up, would you still proceed with this plan? and he didn't say well no, he said they do add up. they certainly do. they add up because i was in business. well, you know, i was struck by this exchange. >> bill: in any debate, when the debater says yes that's true because i said so. >> it's true because i say so. and here's one of the more extraordinary things about that. and we've plowed this ground before. you know, he talked about i balanced the budget in the olympics. he got $1.3 billion from taxpayers to bail out the olympics. i balanced budgets in business. i don't know how many deals that he went into -- he decries bailouts now as a candidate for president. i don't know how many deals at bain capital he took money from the government or he ran companies into the ground, for

example, the company in kansas city. where they had to get a federal bailout just to bail out the pensions. and he left -- you know, a structural deficit in massachusetts. this is not a numbers guy. it is not somebody whose math will add up. he's misleading utah. about six studies that confirm this. there's not one study that confirms it. in actuality in the specifics and he's pointing to blog posts op-eds, this is the definition of study, i should get a harvard degree. >> bill: i know it. one thing you have to give him credit for brad woodhouse -- >> just one. >> bill: he's got binders full of women. >> binders full of women. well, if that wasn't one of the more extraordinary things. another mind-boggling episode where -- you know, he could not answer the question. he could not say what he's done for equal pay for equal work. he couldn't say that he

supported the lilly ledbetter act because he doesn't. he couldn't say what legislation he would pursue to help close this gap in pay between men and women. he started talking about what he had done as governor in terms of hiring people in his cabinet. first of all just a handful of positions. but second of all, the story wasn't even true. it wasn't even true! it was a bald-faced lie. there was a project in massachusetts where -- mass pac where they went to both candidates and they said after the election they were going to bring them resumes because they were not going to allow governors to have the excuse of saying we couldn't find any qualified women. here is a pile of qualified women. that's how he got the binders. he wouldn't have gotten them otherwise. >> bill: he didn't ask for them. you brought me too many. >> and by the time -- by the time he left the governor's office, there were fewer --

there were fewer women in his administration than his republican predecessor had. it is extraordinary. >> bill: one more -- think progress identified -- they called them myths not lies. 31 myths in 41 minutes. i mean you gotta be lying up a storm. >> coming out of your mouth. >> by the way on twitter didn't romney set a land speed record for telling his first whopper, supporting pell grants within the first 60 seconds of the debate. he got his first lie out. >> this is extraordinary. he's been running from this, you know, ever since he picked paul ryan. he picked paul ryan. he said he would sign paul ryan's budget. it was marvelous terrific, whatever adjectives. >> bill: fabulous. >> we know -- we do have studies. look at what paul ryan's budget would do. it would cut pell grants. it would hurt efforts for -- to get students higher education.

then he went on. he said he supported contraception. really? >> bill: yet he supported the blunt amendment. the employers to decide whether their female ploys have contraceptions. >> last night we found out he wants employers to tell their workers how to vote. he doesn't want them just to tell them what they can do on contraception. >> bill: i gotta tell you, he's leading the fight on our side. brad woodhouse communications director of the dnc. join the conversation. you have a question, comment suggestion? 1-866-55-press. on the "full court press." >> binders full of women. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." (vo) during the debates, it's hard to know what candidates are thinking. unless, of course you've stood at the podium yourself. with governors granholm, spitzer, and vice president gore, watch the only truly experienced presidential debate coverage.

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decisively. the next debate is important. but i tell you what's really important right now is the ground game. and if you look at a state like ohio where nearly a quarter of the voters have already -- have already voted and of those nearly 70% have voted for the president. so according to the polls. so the ground game is incredibly important. the national polls. we can all get spun up in them. they fluctuate. there are a lot of different ones out there. they're tracking polls daily polls. in the end this is a race in the battleground, in the battleground states. and the president still has the advantage there. >> bill: yeah. so it's ohio, it's virginia. it's -- colorado -- >> colorado, nevada, wisconsin and -- >> bill: florida still in place? >> florida north carolina, virginia, the other side like i

say, florida north carolina, virginia, are you still playing in florida north carolina, virginia? hell yeah. we got a bus heading to florida. the president will be in florida next week, the first lady was in -- the first lady was in chapel hill just the other day. the day before the debate. these are states particularly north carolina, bill, where we have a tremendous advantage on the ground. we registered over 100,000 new voters this cycle in north carolina. speaking of ground game, that decision by the supreme court the other day to stop this out-of-control secretary of state in ohio from shutting down early voting early the fact that that was defeated his effort and the lower court ruling was upheld to allow those early voting days and hours to remain open will be a big boom to us. they wanted to shut down early

voting. have fewer people vote because they know that we're better at turning people out for early vote than they are. >> bill: exactly. they wanted to shut it down for the last three days of the election. which is the time we ought to be encouraging people to vote. >> everybody should be able to vote in this country. i hope we'll get here one day. the idea that people should have to wait and go out on that one tuesday in this 12-hour timeframe, people should be able to vote -- >> bill: it is medieval almost. big victory there. supreme court. >> absolutely. >> bill: we're not going to touch that. we're going to let them vote. we gotta go but i just have to tell you the one thing that -- the one lie mitt romney did not dare tell again was the $716 billion cut out of medicare. >> that was extraordinary. >> bill: i think he didn't do it because he knew that obama would have jumped all over him if he had tried it again. >> i think by the end of the debate, he was worn out. he got worn out by the president. >> punch drunk. >> bill: all right. brad, thanks for your great

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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: the parting shot with bill press. this is the "bill press show." >> bill: all right on this thursday, october 18, my parting shot for today the second debate is over. the campaign spin rooms have shut down. time for what really counts, time for the facts. once again, mitt romney lied through his teeth. that's a fact. according to think progress, which keeps track of such things romney even surpassed

his record for lies in the first debate when he told 27 lies in 38 minutes. in this second debate, he told 31 lies in 41 minutes. can't recount them all here but here a couple of the big whoppers. once again romney asserted that under president obama there's been no drilling on federal lands. that's wrong. oil production on public lands is 10.6% higher than under george w. bush. he claimed romney claimed he supports pell grants. that's wrong too. he's endorsed the ryan budget which would cut pell grants for one million students. he insisted that buying and selling assault weapons was illegal in this country. we know that's wrong. the ban on assault weapons expired in 2004. so now at least this much is easy to know. how do you know when mitt romney is lying? when his lips are moving. frank rich from "new york" magazine joins us tomorrow and

bob cusack from the hill. have a good one. see you back here again tomorrow.

[♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: well hello tv land. what a big show we have coming up karl frisch nate silver and mudcat. did you here that tagg romney wanted to take a swing at the president. >> i'm just going to give up on the news