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>> stephanie: would you like to know why? >> why? >> stephanie: because i rescued another dog near my house. i hate everybody but you two. this dog, no collar you could see his ribs. and he is so sweet. he let me carry him home like a baby. >> where is he now >> stephanie: my house. >> oh, dear. >> stephanie: so i am a new foster mother, and i'm a little flustered this morning. >> i hope your furniture survives. >> stephanie: in the meantime here is my bff. >> good morning everybody. president obama has put a new fiscal cliff offer on the table.%

now we are at 1.2 in revenue. the president says he is okay with extending the bush tax cuts for everyone making up to $400,000 a year. raising the estate tax on estates over $3.5 million to the rates they were back in 2009 which is 45%. as for savings we're asking for $800 billion in this new deal. i know it's a lot of numbers but here is the key. is the friars time that social security cuts have been on the table. the administration insists that they will pro text the poorest, but this is not a good move as far as a lot of progressives are concerned. though president is not budging for raising the medicare

eligibility age at least yet. the deal extents unemployment benefits, and asks for a two-year increase of the debt ceiling. it has released a statement saying that any cuts to social security medicare or med indicated would be seen as selling out the middle class, and they could expect to work very hard to block this kind of deal. 74% of people favor tax increases versus spending cuts. we're back after the break. in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. but it's also about telling them that you're put on this planet for something more! i want this show to have an impact beyond just informing. an impact that gets people to take action for themselves. as a human being

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choose toy. >> stephanie: this is the third dog i have had to rescue from the park near my house. >> you hike at 4:00 in the morning? >> stephanie: no, yesterday. long cocktail hour with my new son. he is very sweet. let me carry him home like a baby. >> take him on vacation with you. >> stephanie: yeah i have to find a home for him. i'm going on vacation in a week. somebody help me. [ applause ] >> stephanie: i know people in rescue. we'll figure out. i have had to rescue foster dogs before, because people dump them, and he is just a little fella. he can't run that fast. >> oh. >> stephanie: so i'm a little bit flustered, but i helped one thing stay alive for a day.

>> you did. >> stephanie: all right. and he is very snuggly. >> did you check for flees and bees. >> stephanie: this is going to turn into an unsolicited testimonial. >> you spayed him with seedercide. >> yes. and he is deflightful now. [♪ magic wand ♪] >> stephanie: lots to get to we have joe courtney from connecticut. >> yeah. >> stephanie: and actress melissa fitzgerald, jim -- >> ummm. >> stephanie: live in hour about three. >> ummm. ummm. >> stephanie: stop it. [ buzzer ] >> oh gross! >> stephanie: pull yourself to together! not for a couple of hours. rolland sexy liberal tour director, we have chosen a great

charity, the brady center to prevent gun violence. i was read some stuff about what the nra spends as compared to gun control groups and it really is stunning. >> the nra has been no en casa since thursday. they took down their facebook page. >> stephanie: yeah i think it was the one election where people lost seats that made all of these congress people so scared. they don't have that great of record. like six of the seven they backed laws. they are being scared of nothing in my opinion. paper tiger. that's what i'm going to call them. >> hum. >> okay. >> stephanie: all right. i feel a little word this morning. i haven't had much sleep. >> do you need some coffee? >> stephanie: i haven't had time

to have my coffee yet. i was giving out biscuits. any way. i think everything should be on the table. so of course we had the opportunity to piss everybody off yesterday -- >> i heard it from the gamers. >> stephanie: yeah nobody is saying everyone that is autistic that is violent or anyone that plays a video game is going to get violent. i'm just saying there are a lot of different elements -- >> i overreact to everything. shut up! >> people get a little up in arms -- >> stephanie: people are emotional, and understandable. >> i'm in a bunch of video games. >> stephanie: you are. i blame you. you blame me for voting for reagan. why don't you blame me for the mentally ill being let out on the streets. >> didn't you campaign for

reagan. >> stephanie: no! i was a dopey college kid. >> you didn't go door-to-door? >> stephanie: no. >> i may have thought your mom and dad made you do that. >> stephanie: i was in college. it was my own decision. >> i voted for perreault, so -- >> stephanie: and you were really an adult then. >> whatever! >> stephanie: yesterday one of though things i brought up of course you are not going to ban video games and guns entirely i'm just talking about all of the elements, and i said yesterday, chris. i didn't even know that was element here. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: msnbc reported it first, he was a big violent video game player. my friend wanda who is a psychologist, she said there is research that -- you know, she just said there is research that

shows. it's because it is interacttive. >> but kids in canada play the exact same video games -- >> stephanie: but they don't have access to guns. >> exactly. people in japan they invent those video games there -- >> they actually have plenty of guns in canada but they don't feel the need to use them like we do. >> stephanie: i read another article that really is gross when you think about it. like everyone in this country has enough guns. they are selling paranoia at some point. >> yeah. better get more! >> stephanie: exactly. that's been the biggest seller. obama is coming for your guns. any way couple of thoughts on patty from kansas city. steph as much are as i love jacki she is wrong on this -- again we had a lot of people that agreed with jacki.

the kids i watch have all of these video games. i have seen the personality of a nine year old kid very drastically. and he is now looking at assault weapons on line. like people talk about gateway drugs. a kid is already unbalanced does it help? no. julie writes liberals should be able to change too, or why should they over in right-wing world. joe scarborough said a lot of same things yesterday, and he was a big approved republican congressman for a lot of years. >> jacki is going to be calling in. she wants to defend herself. >> stephanie: okay.

good. gwynn writes i had teen boys that were very impressionable. they were very aggregated and aggressive. these video games can't help. >> i keep going back to japan. >> stephanie: but a mother who has seen it -- >> but that kid would have been aggressive whether he played video games or not. >> stephanie: jackison says if people want to protect their second amendment rights, then they should only be allowed to have mustcuts. >> we have a caller on line 11. >> stephanie: good morning,

jacki schechner. >> good morning. >> stephanie: go ahead. >> first of all i'm glad we're having this conversation. >> stephanie: yes. >> that is important that at least we're talking about it. and wanda was on yesterday and said that there has been studies. there are plenty of studies out there about the impact of violent video games, and none of them are conclusive from what i understand. from every study there is that say there is a causal effect there is one that says there isn't. nbc sid a piece yesterday they posted on your facebook page do video games make kids violent. and one side says yes and one side says no and there is studies behind each side.

>> stephanie: of course, and there are plenty of people that own assault weapons that aren't violent. but there is no reason that people -- civilians need to have military-style assault weapons. >> right. there are restrictions on video games. there are no restrictions on guns. >> right. and i think parents need to take a decision of what their child is capable of understanding, and there is a big parental responsibility there. i find it very difficult to believe that if you put a child that there's a direct correlation between playing video games and seeing that as an opportunity to go out into the real word and shoot people up. we would have people joining the military all day long if that were the case. >> stephanie: i'm sure you are hearing a lot of the same stuff that we are. you hate to speak ill of a woman

who had her face blown off a couple of days ago, and yet you go -- he was a survivalist, she was hoarding guns because of economic collapse or whatever, and like you say and that combined with knowing her son had some mental issues. >> yeah. we're all armchair quarterbacks at this point, because none of us are in a position to comment with any authority of what was going on in that home but if you assume that at least some of that information was accurate you have to say here is a woman who had weapons in her home with a child was unstable and there was some question as to what her decision-making was in that moment. and i do think you need to take responsibility. i'm not a parent sorry to be careful where what i say, and i understand that. >> stephanie: yes, we have

gotten a lot of parents who have children who are autistic or have asperger's. >> the thing i understand about asperger's it is usually very intelligent kids who have a little bit of social awkwardness. >> yeah. >> stephanie: let me read this from slate real quick. she was talking about the last 48 hours, a lot of people mentioned autism and the tragic incident. her son is autistic. she says planned social violence is not a feature of autism. autistic people are far more likely to have violence done to them wrath to inflict violence. again, jacki it's making [ inaudible ] that is not -- being a psycho path is

not the same as there are so many different -- and this was part of your point yesterday, in terms of health care right? that a lot of mental health is misunderstood. >> now we're saying let's provide more resources for people who have mental health issues. let's see what happens when it comes time to paying for those. >> stephanie: yeah. >> it will be interesting to see all of the people who say no more government spending on social programs. it will be interesting to see how that is reconciled. >> stephanie: yeah. >> because if we want to be fiscally conservative there's no way we can take care of everybody the way we need to and make all of these drastic cuts. >> stephanie: yes. more importantly would you like a small blond dog. >> i can look for opportunities

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something, you got to be starting something, i said if you want to be starting something, you got to be starting something ♪ >> stephanie: yeah. yeah. it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome to it. twenty-six minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2. mike in rogers park says why isn't anybody talking about the powerful medications these people are on -- we don't know that. in my opinion big pharma play a major role in these incidents. >> the columbine kid were on i believe sole loft. >> stephanie: i know someone who killed herself after getting off pacsil. where is the conversation. >> i hated being on them.

>> stephanie: that's why as much of a mess as i am i have never gotten them. >> the former principal of new continue to. >> was he bullied? i can say it is impossible because we watch them so closely. but somewhere as he went on sadly enough he lost all of that support. >> it sounded like they coddled him in high school, and when he graduated, he had no way of dealing with the real world. so i don't know if that made him snap or what. but he needed help. [♪ "jeopardy" theme music ♪] >> stephanie: jim who said and don't tell me to do something. don't tell me to be silent while the gun bark in our classrooms?

who said that >> it wasn't wayne law pierre. >> stephanie: no roger simon. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: hey, dee in virginia. >> caller: hi, how are you. there are a lot i have to say, i know i only have a little time. >> stephanie: you have a minute go ahead. >> caller: mass shootings in one category is men. nobody is saying take the guns away from men. >> stephanie: yes, it is virtually always young men. >> caller: right, and there are three key categories not necessarily dealing with mental illness, but there is usually anger, vengeance and misperception. you think about trayvon martin, he has a misperception of this kid, and these were two kids

that were killed knead leslie. and you look at sarah palin who says -- the misperception of gabrielle giffords. let's use violence. >> stephanie: all right. honey hard break here. representative joe courtney of connecticut next. ♪ for half of what glenn beck is going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.

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molded into the snow. >> okay. >> stephanie: representative joe courtney of the great state of connecticut joining us now. good morning, representative. >> good morning, stephanie. >> stephanie: oh, boy, it's hard to know what to say, right? you described it as incredibly powerful even driving in. it's hard to imagine what the depth of that tragedy feels like to them. >> yeah, we really [ inaudible ] at that situation. sitting across the aisle at the high school sunday night from the families i have to say president obama was adamant to spend as much time as he could and did with each and every one, but to see siblings holding stuffed animals and you know -- you know, it just -- again, made you

speechless in terms of the -- and when he read the roll of the names. the reaction in the room was -- it just really -- it hurt, the grief and the pain that is there. this is going to be a very long road for that town and all of these families. congressman it seems like every story you hear is more heart breaking and goes to the point of what you just said of what kind of ripple effect and how long this is going to be. there was a story of two of the six year old little girls their mother they were the protector of their five-year-old brother, and she has to explain to him where those girls are now. they talked to him about how fun school was and not to be scared. and it's just what do you say to kids in your community now. >> well, chris murphy who is a

congressman for newtown and has been magnificent in terms of his strength as far as being there, and, you know, being a vow for the community. the first funeral yesterday of nathan who actually had a twin sister who survived because she was in a different classroom at the time. and she doesn't know what happened. so this process of, you know talking to kids about what happened when your dealing with six and seven year olds in particular, you know, it's just -- it's going to require frankly a lot of help in terms of professional help. the good news is is that the town right now has just been, you know, flooded with mental health professionals. we're blessed to have mental haven hospital that is all hands

on deck in terms of helping out there. but as i said this is going to take lots of intelligence and strength to help these families. >> stephanie: congressman you and i have talked a lot about health care as we have -- as that debate rolled along, and obviously, mental health is an issue that clearly is long over due in terms of us talking about it. these are where we see real consequences of a lot of these cutbacks. >> it is. and i think it's also important to note that when we look at the affordable care act, which clearly was the biggest legislator of change in our healthcare system in recent years and continues to sort of unfold, one of the aspects of it is it incorporated mental health parity in the benefits package,

which again is starting to roll out in the plans that are being designed, and will be offered through the exchanges. and if you look at the health care insurance marketplace, the fact of the matter is many plans offered virtually nothing in terms of mental health services. this package will provide a basic floor of coverage particularly for adolescent mental health issues and if you talk to a lot of experts that clearly is a big problem. the system doesn't have enough beds for teenagers and young adults who experience a lot of mental health issues, and, you know, really this event is going to really be the true test of whether or not as a country we can do what we have to do and -- and it's -- >> stephanie: congressman,

right. i know the president sat down with the vice president and three cabinet members and started looking at ways the country can respond to the tragedy. jay carney said i don't know about the specific time line, i would simply refer you to his remarks about the action rehopes to take in the coming weeks. guns control support hits a record high. i'm sure you have heard this before, if now, when? >> that's right. >> stephanie: if we can't say we at least need to pass a ban on assault weapons, these high-capacity magazines, and close the gun show loophole. >> yes, and the online am mu nations, which was one of the horror shows we learned about in colorado. people can just have it

delivered anonymously to their house. when we dealt with mail-order guns back when lbj was president, the internet has now opened up another gaping loophole, which we have got to close that. and i think it's important to add one point. is a very good piece by a law professor in the bloomberg news today, who said the second amendment, even though it is the most stanch interpretation, scalia said we still have the ability to restrict access to guns for people with felonies and mental health issues so it's a phony argument that says a constitutional issue protects

us. even scalia has given us the path. >> stephanie: that's the point obviously that a lot of people have made that i don't think the founding fathers meant mentally ill kids mowing down kindergartners with military assault weapons. >> and even under the interpretation that the nra and others were looking for from the court. scalia made it clear that that does not make us powerless to impose restrictions and the important rebuttal that has to be out there that the second amendment which gets thrown in everybody's face is much more flexible even under that interpretation than a lot of conservative claims. >> stephanie: yeah absolutely. this time feels different to me. doesn't it to you? i feel like there may really and

truly be the collective will to pass some reasonable gun control. what do you think? >> yeah i think every american's sense of safety has been violated. and i was telling people -- i was driving back roads in connecticut yesterday on the way to the airport and drove by a number of grade schools along the way, and at each entryway was a police cruiser. but, hey come on. this is not the answer. we're not going to turn schools into fortresses. and a lot of parents held their kids back yesterday from school. >> stephanie: because of the fear of copycatting. >> that's right. school safety has a limit unless you have going to have s.w.a.t. teams camped out every day, so we have got to go deeper.

>> stephanie: yeah absolutely. representative we wish there were more like you in congress and our heart goes out to your great state. >> and let's not let that be the focus. we can't let this thing dissipate. >> stephanie: yes. representative joe courtney. thank you very much. [ applause ] >> stephanie: he is awesome. >> he is awesome. >> the newtown shootings with part of a greater problem. "washington post" abc news 54% in the latest point a five-year high. it has remained at or above 58% since 2008. so that's the latest -- polls show majority support for banning high-capacity ammunition clips. and banning semi automatic handguns. >> yeah. >> stephanie: again, if not -- it's like -- it's like

the fiscal cliff, the republicans fighting for these tax cuts for the rich. it's like who are you fighting for? no one wants that. >> yeah, and you have people with a ratings in congress who are saying let's talk about sensible gun control now. >> stephanie: good for them. >> yeah. >> stephanie: forty-four minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: you can't turn her off, not in the middle of turning her on. it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. i want our viewer to understand why things have happened. at the end of the show, you know what has happened, why its happened and more importantly,

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yay ♪ >> stephanie: is this for my new rescue puppy? he is so handsome and romantic. did you see they sent dogs to newtown. >> yes this was so touching. >> stephanie: each dog carries a business card. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: so you can stay in touch. >> how do you tweet out thumbs. [ applause ] >> awesome, oh my god. that is a great program. >> stephanie: i know. >> they go to different disaster zones to help people who are grieving and dealing with disasters. >> stephanie: yeah. >> that's awesome.

>> stephanie: the first thing i have to do because nothing says love like lopping someone's nads off. he is not fixed. >> oh, boy. >> stephanie: interesting to -- we talked about this yesterday, the statistics by -- in different countries. >> yeah. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: this is from the view from the uk america's deadly obsession with guns. you can imagine people overseas reading these kinds of statistics. the president said this is the fourth time he has had to -- every day 80 americans are shot to death. every year 17,000 people are killed in america, 70% by guns. nearly 20,000 people commit suicide by shooting themselves to death with a gun in a home.

the slaughter of children is 25 times the next largest industrial countries in the world combined >> and according to gun owners of america. the solution is more guns. >> gun owners of america. that's a really fringe group. >> stephanie: pardon me. if you don't think there is something wrong with that -- and that's the only thing -- if everybody says -- oh no you can't touch this part or that part of it. the president yesterday. >> obama: we can't tolerate this anymore. these tragedies must end. and to end them we must change. no single law, no set of laws

can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. but that can't be an excuse for inaction. surely we can do better than this. >> stephanie: billy in texas, you are on the "stephanie miller show." hi, billy. >> caller: stephanie in >> stephanie: yes, sir. >> caller: happy new year almost. >> stephanie: thank you. you too. >> caller: i have listening to all of this about this tragedy. there is really no way to stop this stuff. it's people. >> stephanie: so we shouldn't try anything. >> caller: the way to combat evil is with good. so in that spirit i want to call you and wish you a happy day, happy new year and merry christmas and try to do something nice. there is no way to combat evil.

>> stephanie: i'm going to give you a hundred dollars profilers gift card. how about that. >> caller: be that as it may -- obama said it right. there's no law that is going to change this -- >> there's no one thing that can change it, but a combination of things could do it. >> caller: well, that's not going to change it. on the same day that they had this gun violence in connecticut, in china at a school there was -- >> with a knife. >> caller: with a knife. >> stephanie: about nobody was killed as far as i know. >> caller: you can't combat evil except with good. >> stephanie: no one was killed though. >> caller: merry christmas, and happy new year. >> hold on billy. >> stephanie: we're going to give you a hundred dollars pro

flowers gift certificate. >> yeah you can't kill someone from across the room with a baseball bat. >> stephanie: right. >> and someone had a chance of taking this guy down if it is one guy with a knife. if it's a guy with a 30-round clip, no. >> stephanie: yeah. it's like are you kidding me. really? yes, evil has always existed -- >> but evil, exists in japan and canada, but they don't have massacres like this every year. >> stephanie: gee what is the difference. oh, you can't get guns. >> what was the figure 9,000 americans killed by guns -- >> stephanie: yeah, over 9,000. >> and in germany it is 200, which is high for europe. >> stephanie: right. josh you are on the "stephanie miller show." hi, josh. >> caller: how are you doing?

my point is we need to be really, really careful with how we do this gun-control issue, and be careful that we don't inadvertently start another war on drugs. because if you were to make the present guns illegal, my southern grandfather, i guarantee he would shoot you if you tried to take his guns. i'm anti-gun too but looking at the realisticness of it we would start a massacre if we went around trying to take guns away -- >> stephanie: no one is talking about that. >> trayvon martin was an assailant. >> stephanie: oh. somebody else said that.

that mr. george zimmerman would have been there everyone would have been saved. yeah. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: oh, here it is. zimmerman was the perfect neighborhood watch. >> except for the killing people part. >> stephanie: and we should support activities like his. he blames newtown issue from everything from the lack of spanking and more. there are a number of issues including home schooling, and a more frank discussion of race and culture. >> oh, of course. >> it was a white kid killing other white kids. >> stephanie: for far too long

we have tiptoed around this issue fearful of being branded a racist. he said he believes quote, if black thugs kidnap and rape a woman, we should ask if there is something in the black culture that fostered that. >> wow! >> so there is something obviously in the white culture that caused this tragedy. >> did he think at all before he wrote this. >> stephanie: no. i was listening to sean hannity, and victoria jackson is on their network blaming abortion. >> and mike huckabee saying it's because -- >> stephanie: yeah we need to separation of church and state. >> and mike huckabee also said that it is because we give abortion pills out.

>> to kindergartners? >> stephanie: yeah. it's not exploiting something to talk about these specific issues -- >> the oklahoma city bomber was a christian. >> stephanie: fifty-eight minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." ñttv

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>> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ nobody going to break my spine, nobody is going to slow me down, oh no, i've got to keep on moving ♪ >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome to it, twenty-three minutes after the hour. what was that statistic? >> i know i'm geeking out here every day on average 273 people in american, 47 are children and teens are shot. >> wow. >> stephanie: forty-seven children and teens per day. >> stephanie: yeah we were talking about the lanza family friend yesterday.

>> she has done this for adam partly to teach him responsibility. >> gun ranges. >> and get him out to interact with people. she took great pride that he knew how to be responsible with the guns. >> stephanie: we were understanding it is important to understand everybody's point of view to get anything done, but it really is hard for me -- paul ryan bought his nine year old little girl -- and i hate the idea of hunting and all of it and i know i'm on one end of the spectrum. >> i'm not a gun nut but any stretch of the imagination, but i was a boy scout. and at boy scout camp we went to shooting range. and there is something to be said about learning the display of cleaning the gun and respecting the gun. >> stephanie: yeah i went on

vacation last christmas to montana. i tried a firing range and i started crying after one, and i stopped. >> you are a wuse. >> stephanie: i know. my friend laughed at me. she was like oh my god, you are pathetic. >> it's not my favorite thing in the world, but it's interesting. >> but there are people for whom that is part of their culture in this country, and i don't think taking those away or saying that it is wrong is going to help move this debate forward, but common sense things like we don't need to fire off 30 rounds in a magazine and we don't need semi automatics. it's not my culture but i understand it. >> if you need 30 rounds to bring down a deer it's probably not your thing. >> yeah. and most people who are hunters are going to agree with that

and i think they will be on the side of regulating these things too. >> stephanie: that's right. lieutenant paul vance from connecticut. >> [ inaudible ] school and saved many human lives, and i can tell you it broke our hearts we couldn't save them all. >> stephanie: thank god for the response time there, because we were saying he had enough ammunition to kill everybody in that school, the only reason he did -- talk about high capacity magazines and all of that stuff -- i guess it was the last tragedy this happened chris rock said it's really funny but poignant poignant, he said we should have bullet control and bullets cost $5,000. and the point is well-taken. let's go to ray in texas. hi, ray. >> caller: good morning.

let me get you off of speaker. >> stephanie: okay. all right then. and i would like fries with that. >> caller: okay. i'm right here. i agree with you on a number of issues this morning. and i want to embellish it and hope you run with it a little. this one is different and we have got to keep talking about it, because let's face it, statistically we have 60 days until we have another one. >> stephanie: that's exactly right. don't you hate it when people go oh, not now. bill bennet said let's let the tears dry. let's not. >> it's not too soon. it's too late for this conversation to be happening. >> stephanie: yeah. >> and we need to make it happen now and to have a reasonable solution quickly so that we can prevent the next children from being killed. >> stephanie: and that's why you

need to be a congress melissa fitzgerald. [ ♪ patriotic music ♪ ] >> stephanie: and we have talked to you about this before. you are beautiful, but you are smart. you can do this. [ applause ] >> stephanie: the people in the current control room, said is melissa showing a little skin. [ laughter ] >> yeah, when we were talking about the possibility of me running for congress, they said we're going to have to talk to you about campaign attire. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: you rock on. [ applause ] >> it's all good. ♪ >> stephanie: eye contact, jim. both of us. beautiful eyes. >> i'm just going to say seated. >> oh, jim! good god! >> what? >> stephanie: i don't know why she keeps coming back here. >> yeah, why do you?

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week! [ laughter ] >> stephanie: along with actor-vist, melissa fitzgerald who is smoking hot and funny. i'm reading her ambien text from last night to me. it looks like one of my right-wing hate letters. everything is misspelled and -- [ laughter ] >> stephanie: by the by, because i was rescuing a dog that someone dumped in the park next to my house yesterday, i can't get to watch your whole film, but i am told it is fabulous. let's talk about that. and we have a link up right? >> sure, i can do that now. >> stephanie: what we meant to say, is chris forgot to do that. >> it just came out on dvd just, just, just. the movie is called after-county, staging hope.

it's about a theater program that i brought a group of actors with me to northern uganda with 14 teenagers there, many of which had been abducted soldiers there, and we worked with them to help tell their stories to their community. through the film we hope to share their stories with the world. >> stephanie: yeah you were saying there is a hilarious moment where you do a song and dance. >> yeah, we do a song and dance from our culture, and they do one from theirs, and i'm not going to spoil it because it's actually really funny. the movie heavy, but there are many many moments of levity. because people are people and i think we all need to laugh. >> stephanie: right, and it does help. >> yes. >> stephanie: i talked about joining the peace corps and my

brother said what are you going to teach them to act like they are not hungry. but the point is with the stuff that you are doing it really helps. >> absolutely. and when you are living in war-affected territories a lot of people can't go to schools, so they can't read and write. how else do you share stories? theater has through many cultures and from early early on, been a way that we do share our stories? and certainly these teenagers felt like it was important that their voices be heard. >> stephanie: right. that is what you are an actor-vist. [ bell chimes ] >> stephanie: and you are exactly the right amount of actory. some people are very actory in this town. >> and their craft. >> whatever! >> and they need to be, and they

are so good. >> right. you have got your process and [ inaudible ] craft. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: melissa fitzgerald using her craft, her process for good in uganda ladies and gentlemen is my point. [ applause ] >> stephanie: jim you keep citing a new ridiculous argument -- >> yeah cars kill 37,000 people a year why don't you journalist talk about regulating them. cars were not designed specifically to kill people and we do have regulations with driving. >> yeah. >> and you need a license, and take tests and take vision tests -- >> and you are not allowed to drive backwards at a hundred miles an hour. >> stephanie: hello, that's why i took a cab saturday. >> i didn't drive either. [ laughter ]

>> stephanie: jacki was the designated driver. >> i know, poor jacki. >> stephanie: it is interesting how all of these headlines come together. some are saying if only the teachers had been armed. and this is the party that bashes teachers and teachers unions, and now they need to be rambo on of the of it all. we need to -- all of us back off our prejudices and talking points, because -- i don't know maybe i'm wrong. i have never known a teacher that would say yeah that would be a good idea. >> and the facts don't support that being a helpful thing. what the facts are is more people will die if we're arming more people period. and just do your homework before you make statements like that. >> if you allow someone to bring

guns into church, someone will get hurt. >> stephanie: yeah. harry reid said the country is failing in its obligation to keep its citizens safe. marco rubio said he is willing to work on serious and comprehensive review on gun laws. >> that's fantastic. >> stephanie: and here joe sar borough yesterday. >> i am a conservative republican who received the nra's highest ratings over four terms in congress. i saw this debate over guns as a powerful struggle between individual rights and government control, and you know what i have spent the past few days grasping for solutions and struggling for answers. well bearing to question my whole long-held believe on these subjects, for the sake of my four children, and yours, i

choose life, and i choose change. it's time to turn over the tables inside the temple and for the sake of our children we must do what is right, and for the sake of this great nation that we love let's pray to god that we do. >> stephanie: representative gerald adler said if now is not the right to time to have a serious discussion i don't know what is. and we were laughing about -- not laughing -- but hannity and others going the left is politicizing this and exploiting this tragedy, and we play one clip after another of people on the right saying it is because of no god in the schools, the gays abortion -- here we go again right. >> and also if you are saying the only appropriate response to this is silence, because you don't like the message that the

other side is speaking out loud that's politicizing it as well and i think that that is completely inappropriate. >> stephanie: i don't think it is politicizing or exploiting to talk about the specific issues in this specific case. the preacher we just talked about earlier, jim that was talking about race -- >> yeah. >> stephanie: people use it to make their own points about other stuff -- let's go to roy in washington. hi, roy. >> caller: hi, yes. >> stephanie: hello, go ahead. >> caller: oh, thank you for talking to me. i just wanted to bring up that there will be no discussion on gun control in congress if there is still a filibuster. you talked about rubio. he is not going to change. he is going to count on one of the republicans to filibuster so

he doesn't have to talk about it. everybody should call their senator that will be sworn in and say we have got to change filibuster. >> stephanie: i thought i read that more people gone to the white house.gov on this issue than any other subject. >> i was just going to say this is on us now. we all have access. this needs to be a citizen movement. >> stephanie: right. they work for us, remember. >> they do. we are their bosses. and as their bosses we need to do a good job, and if there is an issue that requires our participation, there is one. and i think that everybody feels change is necessary -- pretty much everybody. >> stephanie: yep. yep. absolutely. let's go to denise in chicago.

hey, denise? >> caller: yeah. >> stephanie: hi, go ahead. >> caller: hi, stephanie, i'm a second-time caller and i'm listening to the conversation, and i love all of the level headed thinking that has to go on, and i hear all of this self affirmation, but every gun owner gets on these talk shows, and i have been in tears over this and you made the point earlier, how about the other ones that have happened -- the fact that this one is going to turn it around is kind of disgusting. and i done mean to insult anybody -- >> stephanie: yeah i was saying that too. you feel bad where you go it's not like the lives were less in

columbine or aurora. >> caller: exactly. but my main point is every gun owner i hear it's all about self affirmation. 70% of us don't want this. and i protect my guns and i'm responsible. excuse me, but what are you as a gun owner going to do to talk to the nra to make the changes, instead of i lock them up. i do this. there was a gun situation where the gentlemen did have them locked up, and the kid got the key. i don't buy the facts that all of these gun owners feel so good about themselves. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: i don't feel good about anybody who doesn't say i'm a gun owner, but i need to get too the nra, we need to start speaking out and making changes. i don't know if they really want changes, because it is all about

self affirmation and how great of a gun owner they are. well, i don't buy it you know, it's really -- what are you as a gun owner going to do? >> stephanie: yeah. well -- that's what melissa was just saying. it is on us now. and by the way you are the call of the day today. you get a hundred dollars proflowers gift code. >> caller: you are got to be kidding me. >> caller: oh, you guys are great. and your guest -- i forget her name. she is awesome -- >> melissa fitzgerald. hold on t-bone is getting your info.

>> stephanie: if you would just undo one more button -- >> no, this is my limit. >> stephanie: we'll be right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> oh my how ruthlessly absurd! >> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show." [ piano plays ] troy polamalu's going deeper. ♪ ♪ and so is head & shoulders deep clean. [ male announcer ] with 7 benefits it goes deep to remove grease, gunk and flakes. deep. like me. [ male announcer ] head & shoulders deep clean for men. ♪ ♪

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he'll probably have a melissa fitzgerald screen saver to make up for the time he lost here. >> he is going to do something for the fairly odd parents. >> stephanie: yes. >> i have been heartened by the number of people speaking out who are members of the nra and saying it is time to have common sense regulations. let's put it on the table. >> stephanie: right. it's like republicans fighting for the top 1%. it's like who are you fighting for? even in the polling of the nra members it's like why do we have this gun show loophole. >> yeah. i also think it's a matter of we don't know what the rules and regulations are. we don't as a society realize

how easy it is. i think that there's so much more awareness about it now, and even for me just going on the brady campaign's website. it was so informative. i just found this. every year there are only about 200 legally justified self-defense homicides my private citizens compared to almost 30,000 gun deaths. >> stephanie: wow. sometimes you literally have to take a second to let it sink in. >> it takes your breath away. >> stephanie: and it goes to bob costas's point that you are 43 times more likely to kill an loved one than an intruding if you have gun in the home. his point probably a lot of

domestic disputes -- suicides. >> absolutely. i think when australia, you know, did their -- which i think is a really good model for us to look at, the gun buyback, the banning -- >> stephanie: right. >> the assault weapons. i think that they are -- i can't remember the exact statistic but i they that their firearms death rate declined by like 55%, and their suicide rate declined by like 55%, and they had zero mass shootings. >> stephanie: right. yes, there is cause and effect, when bill bennet goes on meet the press and says i don't know -- yes, we know. they have tripled. >> and i would have love if someone on that panel would have actually said that in the

moment. >> stephanie: you think that is going to happen. [ laughter ] >> i know. >> that's adorable. >> stephanie: you are so adorable. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: this is why that show drives me insane because the sunday after the election david gregory actually said do you think the president should bring in mitt romney to negotiate the fiscal cliff. [ scooby-doo's "huh?" ] >> stephanie: julie sent us this. dear gun nuts i am a teacher, i done want to carry a gun, nor do i want to have my kids see armed guards every day like a prison. >> right. >> stephanie: and that brings us to the one thing that any of us agree on. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: and that is that %

lindsay lohan should never be able to drive a car, ever. >> nice segue into the celebrity stack. >> stephanie: yes, she is arranged on a new driving charge. she slammed her porsche in the back of a dump truck and then said her assistant was driving. >> oh, throw the assistant under the bus. >> that's sad. >> stephanie: yeah, but that's what we were saying there are a lot of regulations regarding driving. guns -- literally gun shows, people understand you don't need anything, id background check, nothing -- >> and i think most people don't realize how easy it has been especially the gun show

loophole. >> stephanie: yeah. >> a lot of nra members are saying we don't want that either. who wants to see these little coffins. >> stephanie: exactly. dave in seattle. hi. >> caller: hey stephanie just wanted to talk about the homeland security report in '09, and basically this all should have been taken care of after gabby griff fords, and huckabee seems to have a [ inaudible ] ministry it's not going to help to keep drumming up fear. we have to get on board with the homeland security report. >> stephanie: by the way he mentioned westberg -- >> they are going to picket the funerals of these -- >> stephanie: i'm go get rid of the first and second amendments.

>> right. >> stephanie: mary in minnesota go ahead. >> caller: our culture glorifies violence on tv but god forbid they show a boob. >> i'm doing my part. >> stephanie: she is trying to prove a point and doing a spectacular point. [ applause ] >> okay. squeezy. >> stephanie: i'm a female squeezy. go ahead james. >> caller: i'm a gun owner and i'm the bad guy, but i want to make a point that connecticut currently has an assaults weapons ban in place, and it did as of friday and i don't think gun control is going to stop this stuff anymore so than when clinton did it in 1999.

>> stephanie: it did help. they have tripled -- deaths from assault weapons have tripled when the assault weapons expired. >> so let's start with facts. and you are not the bad guy. >> stephanie: we're out of time. we love you melissa fitzgerald. >> we love you melissa fitzgerald! >> thank you, it's so fun to come here.