[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: all right. good morning. welcome current tv land. jacki schechner is having a morning. what's going on? >> everybody is having a morning. >> stephanie: jim's excuse for being late is gastrointestinal distress. yours involves a smoke alarm. >> i'm not sure how it knows how to go off at quarter to 5:00 as i'm leaving the house. >> stephanie: she still has no makeup on. >> you are beautiful holy cow. >> you're very sweet. >> you should go au natural

every day. >> so i did cnn yesterday. >> you did erin burnett. >> stephanie: i got fantasy tv makeup and false eyelashes. can you see those? because i was -- >> drunk. >> stephanie: so i didn't bother taking my makeup off. because i love you so much, i'm going to give you one of my false eyelashes. >> isn't it bad to sleep in your makeup? >> it is. >> stephanie: that's the one thing i don't need is eyelashes. i call them drag queen eyelashes because you put mascara on and they run up and down against my sunglasses. >> stephanie: now we hate you. you're beautiful. now we do. >> you cause a breeze every time -- >> everything else. everything else is a -- >> stephanie: just do the news. [ laughter ] is that a hurricane? it is jacki schechner's eyelashes! [ screaming ] >> alarm's going off. i just left it. >> david petraeus gave a speech last night and apologized for

having an affair that caused pain for his family, friends and supporters. he addressed 600 people at the university of southern california's rotc dinner. his wife was in the audience along with many uniformed and decorated veterans. >> stephanie: awkward! >> at least she wasn't standing next to him. that's the most awkward. >> stephanie: doing the podium wife. >> we've seen that so often. >> stephanie: mcgreevey is still my favorite. >> definitely not gay. we haven't seen much of petraeus since he resigned over his affair with biographer paula broadwell. he appears to be leaning toward re-entering life as a civilian. treating out for better treatment for veterans. experts saying this blunt apology may go a long way to getting him back into the public's good graces. >> stephanie: petraeus is thinking about re-entering -- [ laughter ] >> a new abc news "washington post" poll showing while congress is still unpopular

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>> you were just giving jim crap about it. about same thing. >> stephanie: listen, you get to a certain age, you have to time the coffee and everything perfectly. >> cut the broccoli out. >> no broccoli and onions for breakfast. >> look how handsome and romantic jim looks. >> what's the occasion? >> this is pretty much what i wore on stage in d.c. >> why are you so dressed up? >> he's so handsome. >> stephanie: job interview. [ laughter ] 7 minutes after the hour. stephaniemiller.com the web site. you can e-mail us all there. poor jacki schechner had a smoke alarm this morning. >> feel bad for my cat who is still at home with the smoke alarm. >> he's going nuts. >> it is just like the chirping. the battery chirp. >> maybe she'll think it is a bird. >> slightly less irritating than listening to dana loesch. >> i think -- [dana loesch

squealing] >> these are the times i need a tall roommate or boyfriend. somebody taller than me. >> stephanie: get a lot of running starts and miss it. >> kareem abdul-jabbar isn't doing anything these days. >> no, he's on that show, splash >> i need a man. i can't reach the thing. there's a bug! can you kill it? >> stephanie: i'm like that yesterday because i had a plumber. i'm completely -- you know, i run whatever this little contraption is. but i'm like oh, it is leaking! >> do you have a wrench? >> stephanie: it was something inside. something plumber-related. which apparently costs several hundred dollars. >> something you need qualified butt crack for. >> stephanie: exactly. my pants aren't low enough to fix that. >> you got them off of angie's list. i'm sure they were a great

plumber. >> stephanie: thank you. indeed. [ laughter ] [ ding ding ] >> stephanie: very very exciting. day two, supreme court. we'll be checking in with san francisco city attorney dennis herrera. he has been -- >> on the forefront. >> stephanie: in the trenches the whole time on this marriage equality issue. big show. big show today! by the way speaking of big shows, sexy liberal chicago looking at my flights -- booking my flight yesterday. on its way to sellout. hal sparks, john fuglesang and i at the chicago theatre april 13. oh and rocky mountain mike reminds us what airline i will be flying because if you tuned in my flight back from tucson tucson -- >> horny middle-aged woman. [ laughter ] >> how is that working out? >> stephanie: this is my experience lately. straight men and women when you tell them you're gay they take that as a challenge -- >> to move in on your mouth. >> stephanie: to ask -- she leaned in on the flight and said may i kiss you? like she was offering a mint.

i was like no. no, no no. thank you. no, thank you. i was a very pommite chipmunk -- i was a very polite chipmunk. would you like my peanuts? >> no. >> did she take no as an answer the first time? >> stephanie: yes. although i told you when the flight landed, she said i'm sorry if i was a little forward. but if you would like to play, here's my number. [ buzzer ] no! no! all right. >> that's something a dude would do. that's not something -- >> stephanie: i never thought screaming baby airlines would be replaced. >> settle in. relax. with even more legroom than before. in flight personal video. newly redesigned comfortable seats and the finest airline meals in the industry. so when you're settling in with our award-winning service and a strange bicurious middle-aged woman offers to shove her tongue down your throat, enjoy the ride. it is something special in the

air. ♪ something special up in there ♪ >> stephanie: transvaginal bicurious airlines. a new subset. who knew. who knew there was such an underserved niche. >> yes. >> stephanie: right. >> or niche. >> stephanie: exactly. so chris, so far. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] my happy clappiness is teetering. on the supreme court. >> well, you know, it is what we were talking about yesterday. it is what we expected yesterday. it is going to be a victory for california. >> stephanie: some people are saying you can't always -- take oral arguments -- you know. we have moved on. transvaginal bicurious airlines now. >> stephanie: that was a different kind of oral argument entirely. >> an argument. >> stephanie: supposed to be

had lifting the show up journalistically. we have the gutter covered here. gutter us. >> my roommate is a lawyer. he was listening to the arguments all day yesterday. he said you really can't -- you really can't tell what they're going to do from the oral arguments yesterday. he said do not get caught up in the media frenzy. i'm like well, i kind of am the media. >> stephanie: jacki schechner is nervous because she knows she has to marry me if this happens. she's skittish. >> but i like cake. >> stephanie: i'm tall. i can fix your smoke detector. >> if i can have cake, we could negotiate. >> stephanie: i'm tall. >> looky what he can do! >> stephanie: you're jewish. christmas tree. >> hanukkah bush. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: stop that! >> your mind went there. mine didn't!

[ laughter ] >> stephanie: okay. my hanukkah bush is on fire. all right. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] >> it is not even december. >> happy passover. [ laughter ] [ ♪ circus ♪ ] >> stephanie: jacki ask me how my passover is going. >> how is your passover going? >> so far, so good. >> we're not even 13 minutes into the show. >> stephanie: this is going right in the dumper. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] >> do you realize what you just said? >> stephanie: no i'm sure it will occur to me. >> you meant dumpster, not dumper. >> wow. >> dumper is -- >> stephanie: show me on the internet? >> yeah, well. >> no, don't. >> stephanie: reuters analysis i'm reading. supreme court seems poised to

avoid same-sex marriage tide. i swear to god as much as i read or hear analysis, i don't get it. you know what i'm saying? this is their analysis. over the course of the 80-minute session, it seemed for the array of gay rights supporters, neither their greatest hopes or worst fears would be realized. what you said, chris. but see i'm not that selfish. you would think most people from l.a. are. i don't want gay marriage just for california. i want it for everybody. [ ♪ magic wand ♪ ] >> stephanie: a majority of the justices suggested they were not prepared to rule on whether a fundamental right exists for gays and lesbians to marry. i didn't need a psychic for that. scalia made my head explode. i knew he would have something -- >> he also said some pretty good stuff yesterday that was very surprising. >> stephanie: what did he say? >> i can't remember. i'm going to look it up. >> stephanie: thanks for bringing that to the show. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: what is your purpose here really? >> i remember saying -- i need to find it.

>> standards are that low. >> hold on. >> stephanie: that explains a lot about your personal life. >> hope you like back hair. >> oh, god! >> i have no-no no hair rehearsal devices for you. >> in response to the assertion that traditional marriage is based on responsible procreation, justice scalia quipped, i suppose we could have a questionnaire at the marriage desk asking are you fertile. >> stephanie: huh? [ scooby-doo's "huh?" ] >> yes he questioned -- >> stephanie: he's going to take off his scoob by mask and it is actually ruth bader ginsburg. [ scooby-doo's "huh?" ] >> stephanie: you have horrible taste. i'm not saying that based on that. [ buzzer ] >> oh! kidding, of course i'm kidding. majority of justices -- let's see. some justices suggested the specific case before them testing the validity of prop 8

blah blah, blah, might not be resolved on the merits which -- justices returned to the bench today for the narrower question of whether the federal government made -- to allow opposite sex counterparts. from a finding that the republican-dominated group spending your tax money those deficit hawks defending the law lacks legal standing in a dismissal strike down the provision and declaring all laws tied to sexual orientation deserve tough judicial scrutiny. the latter stance could pave the way for states nationwide. from the tone of the arguments on tuesday majority would likely resist that route. interesting what dennis herrera thinks. he's been on every -- he's a married catholic straight dad. who's been, you know, a lot of people said don't have to go as far as he's gone. ♪ let's hear it for the boy ♪

♪ let's give the boy a hand ♪ >> stephanie: finishing this real quick. justices do not seem ready for a role on center stage in the matter. justice sonia sotomayor suggested maybe the matter should percolate longer in the states. alito said it was newer than today's cell phones and not ready for judicial intervention. >> what? >> stephanie: should you compare people to gadgets? kennedy, the usual swing vote like in the court's possible journey to going into unchartered waters or over a cliff, if the court avoids the question of a fundamental right tshed be for them pushing olson and boies. we talked about this with gay rights leaders, they were nervous when olson and boies were starting this. >> even rob reiner was nervous. >> stephanie: i have to calm him all the time. he calls me constantly.

down rob! stop being so skittish. he's like a little kitten. he's like a poodle, that man. i love him. while supreme court justices sometimes reverse a course from the tone of arguments that's what some people are saying, it seems no major constitutional ruling will emerge. that's what the consensus is thus far. justices on the right and left question whether opponents of prop 8 have standing. here is the thing scalia said. he challenged olson to say exactly when same-sex marriage became the constitutional norm. i thought olson had a good answer. he said it was constitutional when we as a culture decided sexual orientation is a characteristics of individuals they cannot control. this is an evolutionary cycle. [ applause ] >> stephanie: future husband whatever. >> back hair was a turnoff.

>> stephanie: could be hunted for his pelt. >> no, i was just going to say they use the kid argument a lot which i think is so fascinating. it is like why? there aren't enough studies to show what impact this has -- like that's the problem? same-sex couples adopting children in loving, caring homes? >> stephanie: ginsburg said that's not relevant. she said to scalia that's not relevant because same-sex couples can already in adopt. you're brinking up something -- it is like he probably goes to conservapedia all the time. there are studies we don't know yet what the effect -- what? >> i think that's -- >> it is a fallacy. >> that's not the problem. >> stephanie: what do you think, sweater vest? what do you think ward cleaver? >> june, i think you're a little hard on beaver last night. >> stephanie: 19 minutes after the hour. go to my pc. my kids, listen! how would we run the show

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♪ i don't know what you've done to me ♪ ♪ but i know this much is true ♪ >> stephanie miller. ♪ i want to do bad things to you ♪ >> stephanie: yeah, yeah, oh, yeah. it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. >> she said on the airplane. >> stephanie: yes. steal my pretzels. bad stuff. jacki schechner, don't challenge

me to go to your apartment and help you and fix your smoke alarm because i'll do it. i'm a helper. >> you're an incredible friend. you go above and beyond -- i like to think i'm a good friend. >> stephanie: you're a really good friend. >> you take friend to new heights. >> stephanie: i shop at overkill.com. i was telling my story. i was almost embarrassed to tell it because i'm a little bit borderline sweet creepy. i took a poll of you guys whether it was sweet or creepy. >> i thought it was sweet. >> stephanie: remember our truffle, melissa fitzgerald, hot brie. she's been traveling and she's really sick. she lives two minutes away. we have keys to check on each other's houses. i put two quarts of matzo ball soup and orange juice in her fridge. you can say ooh or aww. roland said i it would only be creepy if i was in a nurse's outfit in her bed. >> or if you crawled in and

spooned her. >> stephanie: she wasn't home. i thought maybe i should have asked. >> no. that's fine. >> stephanie: she was sweet and appreciative. >> as long as you tell her before she gets home. >> stephanie: i did. i'm really sorry. i went to your apartment. i hope you don't think -- because she's like -- i'm going to be the kramer neighbor. how is your date going? oh, he's still here. sorry. >> you might have seen all of her s & m equipment. that would have been awkward. >> stephanie: i didn't root through her underthings or touch the stripper pole. put the soup in there. >> do not go in the bottom drawer of the nightstand. >> stephanie: i don't know what's going on in there. >> never anything good in the bottom drawer of the nightstand. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: i'm picturing it will be like the opening of laugh in. how you doing? i'm doing my joanne worley laugh and slamming the door again.

okay. >> what are you doing here? [ ♪ opera ♪ ] >> stephanie: that's me. slam. the guy at the deli where i picked it up, he said were you sick? i said no, my friend is really sick and she gets home really late. there was this pause. he goes my friends are [ bleep ] my friends never do anything like that for me. >> stephanie: pam in california, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi pam. >> caller: hey stephanie. love you guys. >> stephanie: love you back. go ahead. >> caller: so i was calling about the kid thing. my partner and i of 33 years have raised two kids. one skid currently teaching at harvard. >> stephanie: oh loser. >> caller: , no really. the other kid is getting her doctorate from oxford. >> stephanie: wow! >> caller: raising those two kids really sucks, i guess. >> you've ruined their lives. >> stephanie: now we can't

have nice, ivy league things because of you, because of the gays. how does that make you feel, pam, when you hear scalia talk about do we really know? is there a deleterious effect of kids being raised by gays? >> caller: well, that's my proof. i mean it is like really! what are your kids doing? >> stephanie: pam, have you ever heard zack walz on our show? eagle scout amazing nice, smart. >> caller: exactly. exactly. >> stephanie: the guys in the steubenville case, they were raised by straights just a little fyi. >> caller: yes. >> stephanie: fyi gdk. right back on "the stephanie miller show."

going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.

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toll free from anywhere. i'm looking for anything helpful out of the supreme court. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] reading the tea least. minutes after the oral arguments, ted olson said we're energized by the fact they asked good questions and they're engage and they read their briefs. >> i'll have to check my briefs. >> stephanie: just saying, you know, i seemed optimistical. let's go to deb in california. >> caller: hey there sweet love. >> stephanie: hello angel muffin. >> caller: i wanted to tell him how much my husband and i absolutely adore him. that's not why i called. while you're there. so anyway, i was calling because when i was 11 years old to show how ridiculous the supreme court justice was that was talking about having children being a pre-req quizity of marriage. i told my mom i was never going

to have kids. i was right. i've been married twice. never had kids. on those marriage license applications i do not recall there being a question how many children are you going to have? so if that supreme court justice had any sense in his head, that never would have come out of his mouth. they have the permanent positions. realize they don't ever -- they're not going to lose their job and so they can do anything they want and i guess that's an issue for a lot of people like me. >> stephanie: half the stuff that comes out of scalia's mouth, roger ailes said it in a cocktail party. >> in response to someone petitioning the court. talked about fertility being a pre-req quizity for marriage. >> stephanie: yeah, you need to get kicked out jim. you slacker. >> stephanie: justice elena kagan vid. >> because we think the focus of marriage really should be on

pro-education, we're not going to give marriage licenses to anyone where both people are over the age of 55, suppose that was said. would that be constitutional? >> stephanie: thank you! good point! thank you justice kagan. >> he was trying to argue, they could have kids after 55. >> stephanie: oh no. trust me, that sperm ship has sailed. >> you're not having kids. [ wah wah ] >> stephanie: this is an opportunity for you to -- the eggs coming out. >> tumbleweeds. >> swimmers were working when i was in college. just sayin'. >> stephanie: thank you, jim. [ ♪ dramatic ♪ ] >> stephanie: not sure we needed that information. thanks, jim. >> overshare. >> tmi. >> i heard from an ex-girlfriend recently from college days.

>> stephanie: allen in rockville, maryland. you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, steph. how you doing? i'm a scalia studdier and i'm a lawyer. he says things in court that a law student would be beat up. for saying. >> stephanie: thank you. that's what job security will do right? >> caller: when he started saying well, what about the children? he was arguing facts not in evidence. there was no case about what this does to children. this was a case of other issues. he's putting his opinion of what this should be about. he would be kicked off the bench in a jurisdiction. >> stephanie: like the right wing caller that called yesterday and listed all of the quote-unquote facts about gays. google it. >> caller: he's a supreme court justice. he can do that. he's calling the ball before strikes. >> stephanie: speaking of googling something, you know, the web site, god hates

fags.com. i hate to say the word. have you ever read the fun facts on there? wowee. okay. so that's the whole thing. this is what people are talking about. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] during the arguments yesterday on whether gays and lesbians have a constitutional right to marry, judge is a scalia wondered if having parents of the same sex is harmful. as our caller just said, facts no the in evidence. >> they have to work extra hard. >> stephanie: gay people don't have kids by accident. >> they have to really, really work hard to get those kids. >> stephanie: he said if you redefine marriage to include same-sex couples you must include adoption. there is disagreement about the consequences of raising a child in a single sex family. dr. keith ablo?

judge ginsburg retorted his question was irrelevant because california scams to adopt whether they're -- allows adoptions whether they're the same sex or not. later, he had a heated exchange with ted olson. when exactly it became unconstitutional to outlaw gay marriage. at another point he invoked strom thurmond to make a point about age. nicely done. nicely done. >> little different if you're a woman and you have to bear the child. if you're over 55. >> the hips are a little brittle for childbirth. >> stephanie: excuse me. what do you know? my old lady hips. >> well, they're starting to turn to dust. >> stephanie: they're not that old yet! >> sound of your hips. >> stephanie: crypt keeper. clackity clackity, clackity. what's that? i'm walking. >> stephanie: marge in

michigan, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi marge. >> caller: hi. i've got my morning voice. >> stephanie: oh, dear. >> stephanie: very sultry and flemmi. >> caller: you know, i'm thinking about this whole single sex parent business. i was a single mother. i had two boys. they grew up. they became educated, successful happy. family people. would they have been more educated more happy if they had two moms? >> stephanie: marge i guess there is a million stories like that. like our last caller and you. my parents clearly straight. i am a mess. i'm just saying another exhibit b. gay mom that just called. fabulous. >> harvard. >> stephanie: me? a mess. judge kagan again. >> what harm you see happening and when and how and what harm to the institution of marriage or to opposite sex couples how

does this cause and effect work? >> stephanie: i love her. >> i do, too. >> stephanie: that's exactly what prop a was about. what harm? they could not show the harm. prop 8 trial, they were reduced to having -- humina, humina. >> it is obvious that there's harm. >> because they're around the gay -- air. >> stephanie: time for another edition of really bad analogies. justice roberts. >> thanks for playing really bad analogies. >> stephanie: jacki that one was -- almost made your head explode on healthcare. it is like making me eat broccoli. >> what? >> stephanie: okay. so roberts made a particularly brain dead comparison. he compares gay marriage to forcing a child to call someone a friend. he said if you tell a child someone has to be their friend, i suppose you can force the child to say this is my friend.

do we have this? >> if you tell a child that somebody has to be their friend, i suppose you can force the child to say this is my friend but it changes the definition of what it means to be a friend. and that's, it seems to me what supporters of proposition 8 are saying here. all you're interested in is the label and you insist on changing the definition of the label. >> the label carries with it federal benefits and legal opportunities. >> it is not just about the definition of the word. it is about what you just said. >> legal agreement. >> if we were talking semantics or definition of words, this would not be as much of a civil rights issue. it is about allowing people -- >> stephanie: you know what? as a friend, i'm saying, i don't think judge roberts would ball chicken matzo ball soup for a friend. i don't think he understands love. >> i have seen him serve up a pie. >> stephanie: that's the

gayest sweater i've ever seen. >> who wears cable knit sweaters? >> stephanie: marcus bachmann would say i'm not wearing that. >> you're a barbarian who needs to be disciplined. >> stephanie: russell in north carolina. you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, stephanie. good to hear you. i was just calling in about the whole gay parent thing. my father's gay. my mom and dad broke up and she couldn't handle the whole thing. the only hard thing i had growing up was straight people giving me flak about my father being gay. that was it. that was it. whenever anybody found out through school and everything, i got hit by a lot of people. it is just bizarre that scalia would say that kind of stuff. >> stephanie: that's a really good point. we were saying this yesterday when somebody was talking about higher rates of substance abuse. with gay people, because part of it is that because our society has historically made it tough

for people to be gay. >> caller: i have several gay friends and just to think -- just the things they've had to go through. it is just ridiculous. it drives me crazy that we're -- where we're at and we're still dealing with it. it is just disgusting. >> stephanie: russell, that's a really good point. people say it is tough to be raised by gays. it is tough to have straight people -- straight kids bully you because you're being raised by a gay parent, right? >> my father was a loving man and he's been nothing but great for me. it is ridiculous. why people still do this -- >> stephanie: russell, i was just going to say i remember hearing this argument years ago. people saying that didn't consider themselves home poe mow phobic. it is hard enough being a kid. why do you want to do that to them? how about we teach all kids not to be bullies rather than saying it is too hard.

>> exactly. the only hard thing that ever was a problem in our life together. people constantly -- how could you do that to your son and yada, yada yada. >> stephanie: russ, thanks for sharing your story. 45 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: it's not radio. it's "the stephanie miller show." (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

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>> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 50 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. oh, so justice kennedy everybody's talking about, you know, the swing -- he's a swinger. >> yeah. i don't think he will be the swing vote in this case though. >> stephanie: hard to say. but here's justice kennedy yesterday. >> there's some 40,000 children in california, according to the brief, that live with same sex parents. and want their parents to have full recognition full status. the voice of those children is important in this case, don't you think? >> stephanie: thank you! ♪ let's hear it for the boy ♪ ♪ let's give the boy a hand ♪ >> stephanie: i might make something of myself yet. >> your mom will be so proud. >> stephanie: it is all of the cases that may or may not affect

this particular ruling and this one was -- from the "daily beast," the so themy case that may sway justice kennedy same-sex marriage vote you can't believe this was ever law. whatever they do in the privacy of their home was illegal. because it was this case where the cops came in and the guy was having sex with his boyfriend. bowers versus hardwick. >> really? >> wow. >> stephanie: okay. all right. >> not bowels. bowers. >> get your mind out of gutter. >> stephanie: it was the first supreme court ruling on gay rights decided in 1986, embay people had no right to relationships with people of the same sex. while bowers was since been overturned it may nonetheless influence the decision of the marriage cases, especially the vote of the key swing justice anthony kennedy. here's why. this particular analysis

they're saying many people, justice kennedy may believe the public tide is growing. gay marriage is inevitable. history is not likely to be kind to the justices who vote to begin relegating lgbt people to second class citizenship. justice powell was one of the justices at that time that ruled for that. his well-known regret over bowers which he expressed publicly and the widespread recognition bowers was wrongly decided will weigh on his mind. wrong side of history argument. >> the whole idea of privacy is pretty much gone now that they have drones the size of insects that can fly into your house. >> stephanie: you can still have sex with whoever you want, it is just that the drone will watch you. >> on skinemax that night. >> stephanie: you can do whatever kind of super freak stuff you want. you like to watch don't you? sue, you're on "the stephanie miller show."

>> caller: good morning, everyone. welcome back from vacation. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: you know, as the official parenting specialist of "the stephanie miller show," i did early in my career, i did parenting research. i was involved in preschool ed and ran a school and when you walked into a classroom of 2-year-olds, 3-year-olds 4-year-olds, 5-year-olds guess what, can't tell what the parents are whether they're a single parent. >> stephanie: what? they're not all dressed in pink? you can't tell who was nursed or bottle-fed. who had natural bit or a cesarean. what can you tell are emotionally healthy children. it was irrelevant other than parents who really were invested and loved their children. and i need to add that dr. peter from rockville has been a psychiatrist for over 30 years and guess how many of the unfortunate children he specializes in kids, of those children, guess how many of them had gay parents. >> stephanie: how many? >> well, hold up your hand then put down a bunch of fingers.

>> stephanie: okay. thank you, sue. that was complicated. okay. here is the exchange we were talking about between scalia and ted olson. >> when did it become unconstitutional to exclude homosexual couples from marriage? 1791? 1868 when the 14th amendment was adopted? >> stephanie: it is an evolution. there is not an exact moment in time. that was a little game of gotcha there. all right. let's go to diane in new york. hi diane. >> caller: hey mama. love you guys. >> stephanie: love you back. >> caller: that's good. it makes me feel good. >> stephanie: yes. >> caller: the reason i'm calming is i've been a foster care case worker in upstate new york for 22 years. not once in all of those years and i'm talking hundreds of cases, have i ever had children in foster care whose parents were same-sex marriage.

every single one of them were -- you know, married couples, man and woman or boyfriend girlfriend or whatever. i think that's really significant, especially given the previous caller's -- discussion about how most kids are actually perfectly fine. you can't tell when a child walking down the street, whether or not the parents are gay or straight or whatever. you know, and i also want to say that one of the great things about working and living in new york is the fact that we have a number of -- i want to say maybe 10 to 20 foster parents who are gay and they have gone on to adopt children and guess what. those kids have never been happier. they have never been more well-adjusted. that's significant. so there is my answer to mr. scalia who proves time and time again that ignorance is, indeed bliss. >> stephanie: thanks, diana. >> regarding justice scalia. i suggest he walk down to the jefferson memorial and look at this quote from thomas jefferson

that is inscribed on it. i'm noted a an vocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions but laws and constitutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. as that becomes more developed new enlightened, as manners and opinions change with the change in circumstances, institutions must advance to keep pace with the times. we might as well require a man to still wear the coat that fitted him as a boy as civilized society to remain under the regimen of their bar barrus ancestors. >> he was a smart dude. ♪ let's give the boy a hand ♪ >> relative to the second amendment, too. >> absolutely. that's such an awesome quote for today. >> stephanie: chris in michigan you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: i'm a first time listener. >> stephanie: uh-oh. go ahead chris. >> caller: well, you know, i'm not a strong christian but -- >> stephanie: i'm not a strong

swimmer. >> caller: keep your head above water. >> stephanie: all right, i try. >> caller: but anybody raised in a somewhat christian home is familiar with the fable in the bible of -- >> stephanie: it was about promiscuity, not homosexuality. >> caller: earlier in the show, you were talking about same-sex marriage. in the bible being gay was wrong. >> stephanie: that's a matter of debate among theologians. >> eating shrimp is wrong. >> leviticus is not the entire bible. it has nothing to do with the new testament. >> stephanie: should we kill people who eat shrimp? >> they were wiped out for sodomy. >> right. and eating shrimp. and wearing poly blends. >> stephanie: 58 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show."

[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: oh hello current tv land. hour number two. san francisco city attorney dennis herrera coming up this hour who is the guy. he's the guy on marriage equality. exactly. >> he's the guy from the place. that time. >> stephanie: the thing that we talked about. he's a catholic, married father who has been in the trenches on this marriage equality issue for a long time. we'll see what he thinks about it. because i know chris you're not hopeful. i'm still hopeful. ted olson sounded hopeful. >> put on cologne. >> stephanie: i got a whiff of

that too. old spice. >> i didn't have time to shower this morning. >> english leather? >> stephanie: some sort of dad -- i'm having daddy issues. old spice or brut. >> every high school boy's first cologne. >> stephanie: i want to make out in the backseat with you. >> did they have that in the '60s? >> not kind. >> stephanie: i was in the '70s. grumble! here is jacki schechner with the news. >> facebook founder mark zuckerberg is going to launch a group to lobby federal lawmakers on a broad range of issues. expect a formal announcement that will register as a 501c nonprofit and will make education reform and scientific funding its first campaign. you would think it would be tech issues. looks like broader issues is what they're looking for. a bipartisan group of senators plan to take a field trip to the

arizona/mexico border today to take a look at possible immigration issues firsthand. republicans need a parent's note for that i'm's sure. republicans john mccain and john flake will be joined by schumer and bennett. they're working on immigration. president obama's pushing congress to get something done on reform this year. republicans insisting we meet border security benchmarks before we create a path to citizenship for the undocumented immigrants in the united states. senator john mccain saying lawmakers need to see the border firsthand to understand the problems and challenges ahead. just how long that fence has got to be you i'm sure. >> any concern that demand for new gun control legislation may say, the farther we get from the tragedy in newtown connecticut is justified. it has dropped 10 points since last december right after the massacre at sandy hook elementary. support for gun control does break along party lines. half of republicans want laws to stay the -- the way they are.

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stephaniemiller.com the web site. you can e-mail us all there. executive director, chris lavoie, voice deity jim ward. jacki schechner is in studio with us. we were going to have hump days with sexy liberal hal sparks. he can't make it today. but he will be with me in chicago april 13th along with john fuglesang for the sexy liberal show. he will be back next week probably for hump days with hal. all right. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] jim, who said one of the things we've heard over and over again since vietnam is we don't want to get in another unwinnable war like vietnam. i will tell you vietnam was winnable but people in washington decide we would not win it. who said that? >> charlton heston. >> stephanie: no. louie gohmert. >> he's a gohmert. >> surprise, surprise, surprise! >> stephanie: all right. we've been talking all morning about what's going on at the

supreme court. "l.a. times," how many times have we said this, chris. knowing a gay person is rising support. many americans back their decision. they have a friend, acquaintance or relative who is gay. one of the cases we were citing, what was it? the bowers versus hardwick -- hardwick. >> stephanie: outlawed consensual sex between gay people. so it is obviously wrongly decided. it was overturned. the late justice louis powell has expressed regret and they're saying that could affect kennedy. while considering bowers versus hardwick that upheld sodomy was he told his then closeted clerk he knew no one who was gay. the clerk later regretted he didn't reveal his sexual orientation. i've never known a homosexual.

knowing his clerk was gay might have shifted the balance there. again -- >> might have cost him his job too. >> lot harder to come out of closet in the workplace back then. >> stephanie: that's part of the importance of coming out so people know that they know somebody. all right. so justice samuel alito yesterday. >> you want us to step in and render a decision based on an assessment of the effects of this institution which is newer than cell phones or the internet. >> stephanie: i do not get the analogies yesterday. you can't compare people to gadgets. >> the effects of this. like the effects are just allowing people to have the same legal rights. >> stephanie: right. can you ask siri if she's for gay marriage? >> stephanie: all right. go ahead. >> siri, are you for gay marriage? >> no comment. >> stephanie: oh, siri, you

politician. >> siri is a wuss. >> stephanie: let's go to bruce in detroit. hey, bruce, welcome. >> caller: good morning. how you doing? >> stephanie: good. >> caller: great. what i wanted to tell you was i found a really interesting web site under -- if you google adults without children, there is some guy on there that actually wrote an article saying people like you and me who don't have children waste our time, waste our energy and produce nothing for society. >> he's talking about -- >> stephanie: listen, ignore produce more fart jokes before 6:00 a.m. than most people do all day. i take exception to that, don't you? >> caller: yes. one other thing i wanted to say. i'm a christian. i want to comment on the last guy that was on that was talking about gay marriage. everything they keep bringing up is old testament. >> stephanie: yep. >> caller: when jesus came down

to this planet and died for our sins, all of that went out the window. all of that judgment was supposed to go away. >> stephanie: right. which is why he never said anything about homosexuality. bruce, have you ever heard one christian answer that question? i never have. every time you say okay. do you think we should kill people that eat shrimp? there's no answer. or any of the other things in leviticus. >> wearing poly blend slacks. >> caller: the book of deuteronomy and the book of numbers. i read every day. but the point is this is -- this is destroying our society. it is destroying christianity. i can't tell you how many people -- i can't even get to come to my church because they're going hey, you know, gun toting people want to kill me because i'm gay or i had an abortion. this is disgusting. this is not a true reflection of

what christ was and especially of his sermon on the mount. in fact, i go to a really hip baptist church. it is a lot of old people in there. most of them voted for obama. what's that tell you? >> stephanie: absolutely. bruce, good point. in answer to your question, should people be killed that wear poly blend pants? >> computer says yes. >> but not for biblical reasons. >> the fact they have a permanent crease down the middle. >> test leviticus by ordering a ham, cheese and shrimp sandwich while wearing hager slacks. >> a lightning bolt -- if the lightning bolt hits the sandwich shop, then you know. >> stephanie: executed live on the e! network. hello, walter. >> caller: i would have given a million dollars, i would have given my firstborn of which i

have none, if i could have seen the look on the justice's face when the lawyer said to roberts well yes the friend definition is important. what about the way you change the definition of corporation? >> stephanie: ah, that would have been snap! two snaps up and circle. >> i think they frown upon snaps in a circle. they don't go for that. >> stephanie: disappointed. >> that's their version of hated. >> disappointed! >> stephanie: all right. judge alito again. >> on a question like that of such fundamental importance, why should it not be left for the people either acting through initiatives and referendums or through their elected public officials. >> well. it is referenda not referendums but that's beside the point thank you. >> stephanie: jim has made this point a million times.

putting slavery to a vote in the south in a certain time period. since when do we put minority rights to a majority vote? and guess what? we would win now. you're looking at the polls. paul is one of the prop 8 plaintiffs and game show of people at my house. pretty much everyone in this whole thing have eaten at my house. both the couples and the reiners. he and his boyfriend live here in burbank. right there. i can point. we should go check on it. he's not there. he's in d.c. he didn't give me a key though. >> no different than anyone else. we deserve the same rights. marriage benefits us and doesn't harm you. that's why we're here. >> he teaches a hell of a kettle bell class. >> stephanie: there's that. that's important in l.a. fitness is important. listen. she's a spinning addict. i got her into it. she's a fiend now. >> thank you.

not feeding into the stereotypes. >> stephanie: honey don't feel bad. people from miami are just as shallow. [ ♪ magic wand ♪ ] >> probably true. >> stephanie: you fit right in here. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: jeff zirillo his partner. >> to be able to call him my husband is something that has worldwide recognition. when i'm able to introduce him that way, people understand the level of our commitment. >> stephanie: i know. that's the thing those euphemisms or phrases partner business partner no. domestic partner could be roommates, i guess. >> clunky. >> stephanie: by the way that piece for father's day. it was so beautiful. he wrote a piece about his son for father's day. amazing. >> i think it was paul's dad. >> stephanie: yeah. is that the kettle bell dad? let's go to joy in chicago. hi joy.

>> caller: i'm calling to talk about sodom and -- the sin is not stated in the bible if you were to read it and in oral tradition in jewish oral tradition, that is, the sin isn't sexual. it is being unkind to strangers and robbing strangers. >> stephanie: i believe the ecleeseastical move, john fuglesang has explained this to us many times. it is about promiscuity. it is not about homosexuality. >> caller: and just being bad people in general. it doesn't say -- it is up to whatever person is reading it, their interpretation. >> stephanie: exactly. paula in indiana. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hey, paula. >> caller: hi, there, how are you? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: i have called to hant. >> stephanie: okay. >> caller: i'm so glad you make funny of this stuff but i'm sick and tired of being insulted every single day. i've gotten saturated. i've turned off a lot of stuff.

but i still watch you guys. [ ding ding ] because you are funny. but i'm sick and tired of people trying to ram their religious belief down everybody else's throat. i'm tired of all of their interpretations of the bible. if you don't look like me, eat like me, speak like me -- >> stephanie: we have freedom of religion here. are you free to think homosexuality is wrong. >> caller: that's not what i'm saying. >> stephanie: no, i know. >> caller: you have the right -- everybody has the right to think it. but i'm tired of people trying to shove their religious stuff down our throat. >> stephanie: i agree. >> caller: people have rights in this country. >> stephanie: we're talking about legal rights. you have a right to believe whatever you want in this country. >> stephanie: all right. including that gays -- good luck with that. 17 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> it even vibrates like real.

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try it free for 45 days. vis get to my pc.com. click on the try it free button. jacki schechner watches a lot of daytime television. why? because we go to bed at stupid o'clock and we have free time during the day. that's exhibit a for bad straight parents. watch any daytime show. >> how many kids do you have? four kids. >> what do you do? >> oh, die work. >> really? who pays your bills? >> disability. >> exactly. that's it. >> and what is your disability? >> stephanie: any time gays adopt is kid foster parents, it is because a straight couple screwed up somewhere. all right. spencer perry prop 8 plaintiff kris perry's son. >> i just want to say how

incredibly proud we are of our parents. we love them. we love our family. and we look forward to the day when we'll be treated equally just like our neighbor's families. >> oh. >> stephanie: andrew in california you're on "the stephanie miller show." hello, andrew. >> caller: how you doing steph? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: i'm a social studies teacher and i'm teaching the government class to my seniors and we were talking about political environment in which we all operate meaning what are the political assumptions most of us take about the way our government should operate? and so we talked about some that were institutionalized. federalism separation of powers. checks and balances. there are also -- have come from noninstitutionalized like the declaration of independence, previous supreme court decisions and these concepts are things like the worth of the individual.

that has developed into what you've been talking about. majority rule but minority rights. this is a concept i've been stressing every day to my students because we're in southern california. they know about prop 8. they're interested in this case. they talk to me about it all the time. what i'm finding and is refreshing is the majority of my students are open to that concept. yeah, you can have your beliefs but that doesn't mean that you can take away the minorities right to have their beliefs and their lifestyle. >> stephanie: that's exactly right. our favorite story is -- remember, this has become the whole like what are we going to tell the children. i don't know what to tell my children about this. another parent called and said i explain about my neighbors sheila and kathy next door. the kids were like okay, can we watch cartoons? kids will never get over that information. >> too much tolerance! what's wrong with you? >> stephanie: stacy in oregon, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hello, stacy.

>> caller: you guys are great. i love you. i just wanted a make a comment. my partner died in 2009 and luckily her son was cooperative or else i would have had no rights to her remains. >> stephanie: wow. i'm sorry to hear that. that is exactly the crux of this isn't it? in those critical situations whether it is illness or death you know, there are no rights, right? that's exactly -- >> caller: oh, yeah. people can think all they want but that's what it basically comes down to. >> stephanie: stacy -- >> caller: 13 years together. >> stephanie: don't you think that's one of the issues that started turning this. the fact that someone who has loved someone and taken care of them and someone is critically ill, what human being says no, i don't think that person should be able to visit them in the hospital. >> caller: yeah. you know. i just -- you know, i say you

know, if you won't allow me to marry, then why are they taking my tax dollars. >> stephanie: melissa etheridge threatened that. that means something here in california. we would go under without the official rock star. >> she pays a hell of a lot in taxes. >> stephanie: that's what got things going. ted olson our hero, yesterday. >> this is not a democratic issue or republican issue or conservative or liberal. this is an issue of american constitutional rights. >> stephanie: that being said, the headline is republicans playing catch up on gay marriage. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] interesting, lot of people talking about karl rove saying -- which is pretty stunning. envision a republican candidate being for marriage equality. >> he had to change his opinion. >> as we said, this is the same karl rove in 2004 who helped push a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage and worked to put bans on the ballot in all of the swing states. >> like karl rove cease himself being irrelevant.

>> stephanie: this was obviously a wedge issue that worked for them. now, it is seen as benefitting the democratic party. this issue hasn't just flipped. it has fallen on its face. the issue has been lost. it is about time republicans get over it. having hung out with republicans knowing republicans who were gay themselves, republicans were queasy about this issue. republicans thefng the less said, the better. but there is a certain amount of relief. it is hard to be a consistent republican and opposed to gay marriage. in his 30 years of polling he's never seen anything close to the electorate's vast changing views on gay marriage. he calls it breathtaking. he cautions republicans could still pay a price in primaries which -- that's one of those things -- like this latest republican primary. it will keep them from winning elections because they had -- mitt romney had to run so far to the right on a lot of these issues. >> andrew, prop 8 attorney. >> it is impossible to know with

any certainty the changes that would be worked on society by redefining a fundamental institution like marriage. >> stephanie: it is impossible to know. >> we don't have any examples at all. >> no evidence of any kind. >> stephanie: stay puff marshmallow man could be reactivated. crisis of epic proportions. >> cross the streams. >> stephanie: exactly. real quick -- pat in new mexico. hello, go ahead quick. >> caller: hello. of all of the people that have called in quoting the bible about homosexuality, i have not heard one person say why they were against it. it had nothing to do with sex. it had to do with the fact that the israelis were one small tribe in a sea of hundreds of tribes and homosexuals didn't produce children. they needed the children to multiply and take over the areas that they were in. >> stephanie: interesting. all right. 29 minutes after the hour. san francisco city attorney dennis herrera next on "the stephanie miller show."

going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.

>> look at her, steve. that's the most tasty low fat -- >> stephanie miller -- >> ever. >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 34 minutes after the hour. dennis herrera one of the heroes of the whole fight for marriage equality. san francisco city attorney. he has been in the trenches since day one. he joins us now. good morning dennis. >> good morning, stephanie. how are you? >> stephanie: thank you for all you do, first of all. >> i appreciate that. thank you very much. >> stephanie: as we were saying you are obviously straight devout catholic, married man. you have been in the trefnls on this issue from the beginning. tell us why. >> well, you know, i think --

most people when they go to law school and become lawyers they become lawyers for the right reasons, you know. you always want to be involved in cases and when you know you can use the power of the law to make a difference in people's lives each and every day there's nothing that is more rewarding and when we started this battle nine years ago i can vividly remember walking the line that snaked around city hall as marriages started to be performed. you could see the joy in the eyes of people when they told you their personal stories. as a lawyer who wants to be involved in public service there's nothing more moving than knowing that you have the opportunity to do something that's going to help people attain their life-long dreams. that's really what it is all about. >> stephanie: i could make a lawyer joke and say that's not true of all lawyers. but it is certainly true of you. >> for you i open myself up

with that one. >> stephanie: the goodness of all lawyers is to laugh. but now dennis, you really, seriously, our good friend, gavin newsom who was in here not too long ago this is obviously back to when -- you first advised and defended when he was then mayor newsom, correct? >> absolutely. yep. and you know, he and i -- i ran into him yesterday at the supreme court and he and i have been partners in this. i was proud to defend him when he issued that bold edict instructing the clerk to issue marriage licenses. he has been just as supportive of me when i made my independent decision to sue the state of california in state court to strike down the discriminatory marriage laws. then when i teamed up with ted olson and david boies. it has been a partnership for nine years and something i think

we're each proud to have been part of. >> stephanie: dennis obviously you've heard a lot of analysis. what is your feeling thus far with what you've heard? what's going on? >> there are a lot of questions that were asked yesterday. while i knew the standing issue the procedural issues were going to be raised, we addressed them in our brief. i was a little bit surprised degreed to which the justices spent a lot of time on the standing issue. but in some ways, i shouldn't have been surprised considering thatter the standing issue is a big thing for the federal courts totally apart and aside from this case in terms of setting precedent. on the merit, i will say that i thought ted olson made a passionate plea. and was eloquent in his argument as to why we should not discriminate against our gay brothers and sisters. equally, i was -- with respect

to chuck cooper and our opponents, i was not surprised at all that they had absolutely no answer whatsoever for justice kagan's and sotomayor's questioning with respect to what was the motivation for putting proposition 8 on the ballot? is it okay to discriminate against lesbian and gay individuals? he had nothing but this nebulous responsible procreation argument that somehow denying marriage to same-sex couples is actually to help heterosexual couples become more responsible when it comes to their procreative activities. he had absolutely no answer whatsoever. that has been the case when we first started to put discrimination on trial in the district court and continuing in the appellate court. those are the issues i focused on. >> stephanie: dennis, some people are saying they obviously think from the tone of the oral arguments that this is not going to -- that we're not going to have marriage equality nationwide. they won't go that far. other people have cautioned that

you can't, you know, read everything into just what questions are asked in oral arguments, right? >> i would agree with that sentiment. the best example i can -- listen, i understand. it is like the parlor game trying to predict who you have to go to and who do you have on your side. i always tell people listen, the best indicator of why that's a very dangerous thing is to look at the affordable care act. no one thought justice roberts was going to side with the administration on obamacare. and he did. i think that was a very powerful lesson and reminds everybody that you have to make your arguments to all nine justices. if you don't you run the risk of eliminating your options. >> stephanie: if you had to guess, what is your gut which way this is going? >> i can't say. i'm not going to predict but i think that what was important is that the full range of options was laid out for the court and

the briefs that ted and david and my office put out there we talked about a broad solution. we talked about a california only solution. the visitor general talked about -- the solicitor general talked about the eight state remedy. irrespective of the remedy fashioned by the court. i can tell you right now, there is no way that we are going back and i didn't sense there were five votes there to uphold proposition 8 and i think that this month we saw for the first time, our arguments in nine years became america's argument. it is very interesting to note that irrespective of how they fashion the remedy, the analysis is the same. no one will sit there and say that lesbian and gay individuals are not entitled to protection under the law in the constitution. >> stephanie: that's right. dennis, when you talk about obviously public sentiment polling, how powerful or not do you think the wrong side of history argument is going to be for these justices? >> i think it is very powerful.

there's no doubt that they do take the sense of what the mood of the country is. and you know, you think about it. even in the context of what our opponents say when they talk about how even they're conceding right now political discourse is not moving in their direction. that the movement has been dramatic in the last nine years. i always talked about being on the right side of history. i never knew that history was going to move this fast. but i think a big part of it is because this case contributed to that. when we put discrimination on trial and people saw their family or friends it moved the political debate. i think they're very aware of that. they will be in their deliberations. >> stephanie: like no civil rights battle in our history. take a listen -- again you know as you know out here in prop 8, it was such a divide and conquer. let's pit black people against white people and bring more mormon money in.

this is reverend williams outside the supreme court yesterday. >> i marched and many thousands of people marched in this same location years ago and i sympathize with people who face discrimination. but what they're going through does not compare to what we went through. >> stephanie: you know, dennis why can't we all have equal rights? why does it need to be what we went through is worse than what you went through? i don't feel like that argument is resonating anymore do you? >> no. i couldn't agree with you more. let me give an example of something i thought about. i remember nine years ago when i had a lot more gray hair and -- less gray hair and my son hadn't started school yet. now he's in fifth grade and he's going to taiwan in an exchange program on friday. the hate mail that i received, the vitriol of protestors that were on the other side, that

were outside san francisco city hall. you don't see much of that anymore because i think that our opponents even know hey that argument is not carrying the day. the american public is tired of the fearmongering and the hate mongering that's been present. i think it has been dramatic in terms of our opponents. you don't see much of those protests anymore and they're not putting forth the arguments that this is going to be the end of civilization as we know it. they have even acknowledged, let the political process take its course. it is moving in this direction anyway so why does the court have to be involved? >> stephanie: dennis, what do you make of the argument that unfortunately, to some people, they say because it is moving so fast that's why the court may not do anything because they feel like it is happen on its own or states decide? >> i categorically reject that argument.

for me, they don't have any legal basis to justify the discrimination that's been going on for too long. that's what they say. the constitution and constitutional protections and equal protection clause of the constitution has never waited for the political process to run its course. that's precisely why we have a constitutional, to protect rights of minorities from the political whims of a majority at any particular time. so i reject that categorically. >> stephanie: somebody called earlier and said justice scalia would have been thrown out of law school for some of the questions he asked yesterday. but you know, again i thought for instance, in asking -- at what point did it become unconstitutional? he said there wasn't a specific point. it is an evolution. a thomas jefferson quote you wouldn't force a man to wear

them as a child. it is an evolution. >> let's akoum that we knew what we know now. sexual orientation. we knew everything that we knew now 100 years ago. if we knew everything that we know now 100 years go how this is not a choice issue people are born this way it would have been just as unconstitutional 100 years ago as it is now. 150 years ago you could be killed for homosexual conduct. i thought that line of questioning was ridiculous. >> stephanie: who knew you would be quoting lady gaga. dennis herrera thanks for being such a hero in this movement and taking time for us on such a big

week. we appreciate it. >> thank you stephanie. i appreciate it. >> stephanie: dennis herrera san francisco city attorney. awesome. all right. 45 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: in a perfect world, there would be no right wing talk radio. until then, there's "the stephanie miller show." (vo) this afternoon, current tv is the place for compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

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>> was that considered dancing? >> stephanie: yep, close enough. 50 minutes after the hour. it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 1-800-steph-12. the phone number toll free from anywhere. look at jacki schechner. >> you're showing your pits. >> stephanie: that's all right. >> having msnbc situation. >> yes, we are. >> stephanie: darryl in alabama. we refer to the sweaty incident on msnbc. hello, darryl. >> caller: how are you? >> stephanie: you're a pastor. >> caller: i am. i have just two quick comments. one about the sodom story and one about the fearmongering. the sodom story speaks much more clearly to the issues of violence against women women's rights and immigration reform than -- it doesn't have anything to do with homosexuality. that's one point. the other is the fearmongering of course, some people are using it to gain political or

religious power. some people really believe that harm is going to come to children or marriages. but there's also this real primitive, tribal, religious sensitivity in some people that i deal with -- i loved hearing the jefferson quote. it is one of my favorites because there are people who operate with this primitive tribal religiosity that says if somebody in our tribe is doing something that's going to displease god god is going to punish us all. so we have to either change that person, throw them out or kill them. john boswell book from 20 years ago or so about christianity and social intolerance does a great job of talking about that. so great show. >> stephanie: darryl, thank you for all of that. i appreciate it. reads a little like lords of the flies, the bible. >> a little bit.

>> stephanie: where did i go? garvin in boulder colorado. hey, garvin, welcome. >> good morning you guys. >> stephanie: good morning. go ahead. >> caller: i just had a quick point about the court using the timeliness of public opinion as a way to dodge the discussion around marriage rights. >> stephanie: okay. >> caller: well, dennis herrera was just saying, we now know that -- and we've known for a decade now that orientation is genetically immutable. there has always been gay people, of course. sociologists geneticists agree there has always been some percentage of the population that is same sex oriented. marriage itself is millennia old as an institution. that means there's always been a population of gay folks denied their basic right to marry so, if anything, i would argue we're far too late getting to this discussion. >> stephanie: i think somebody was referring -- i think they were referring to salem witch

trials, talking about when people were left-handed, for instance. you're right, garvin. there are a lot of things. we used to think it was okay to discriminate against. red hair. >> caller: i'm sensitive to that as a lefty. >> burn you at the stake. >> caller: this discussion is way older than cell phones or the internet. it is just a dodge if anything. furthermore, what's the court really good for if it is going to put its finger in the air on timeliness of public opinion rather than make a constitutionally-based judgment which you know is their job. >> stephanie: that's absolutely right. cynthia in nevada. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi cynthia. >> caller: good morning. >> stephanie: good morning. >> caller: i just wanted to say i have two -- four friends two couples, who were in domestic partnerships and both couples managed to get in and get married during the time that they were allowed to get married what they told me a couple of weeks ago was after they got

married, they looked at each ond said i had no idea the difference it would make emotionally to actually be married to you. why should any human being be denied that joy? >> stephanie: cynthia, i know in my own personal life, i've had one long-term relationship. we referred to each other as wives and that was way back before this was vaguely possible. it does make a difference. the fact that people could actually do it, i think is, you know you're absolutely right. it is hard emotionally to quantitate what that means to people. >> caller: yeah. i'm 63 years old. i still remember in 1969 when a friend of mine came out and even in berkeley, she said she wanted to go to this group. but she was afraid because she didn't know anybody. i went with her and there were five women there. i thought how far have we come. it gives me so much joy to see my friends get to have what everybody else has.

>> stephanie: absolutely. thank you cynthia. appreciate it. >> can i issue a warning? >> stephanie: yes, please. >> okay. there is a story going around facebook. it is not true. but it is from the daily current which is -- you know -- parody site. headline is michele bachmann accidentally embarks on gay cruise. congresswoman michelle bach man and her husband marcus accidentally set sail on a gay cruise following a misunderstanding with the travel agency. it was mistakenly booked after marcus bachmann visited a travel agency who assumed he was gay. that's not true. it is a parody from the daily current. >> what a great parody. >> stephanie: still fun. >> that's the thing about the daily current. all of their stories -- >> they're not as absurd as the onion. >> stephanie: also we welcome you stragglers on marriage equality. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] better later than never.

four democratic u.s. senators have flipped on gay marriage. senators jay rockefeller mark begich of alaska, senator claire mccaskill and mark warn he were of virginia. support up to 58%, that's almost 60%, jim in the latest abc news "washington post" poll. montana democrat jon tester. he joined the party too on facebook. no one should be able to tell a monday tan than who they can love or marry. he changed his facebook to the red logo. trending in social media. >> my facebook timeline was pretty much all red yesterday. >> i like the variations coming out. the hearts. >> a friend of mine who is a furniture designer mutt two white couches on the red background. >> nice. >> stephanie: the nfl ready for its first out players. salon writing a current gay nfl

player is strongly considering coming out publicly. after doing so, the player will continue his career. not the reaction inside the locker room but outside of it,he fears he will suffer harm. >> you can't have gays in a game where they pass the ball to -- >> stephanie: tight ends and you pat a man's butt on a weekly basis and put your hands between his legs to grab a balm. no place for gayness. >> i think chris clue i had would say otherwise. >> your boyfriend. >> stephanie: right back on "the stephanie miller show."

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high-strung. >> i know. >> jim is afraid she might poop in my shoes. >> stephanie: early easter hunt. [ laughter ] >> that's not chocolate! >> stephanie: just check for the ones not wrapped in foil. here she is, jacki. >> unwrapped it for me. >> stephanie: jacki schechner with the news. >> president obama has now given us the first female director of the secret service. he picked julia pierson the secret service's current chief of staff to head up the agency. secret service best known for protecting the president. with more than 150 office throughout the u.s. and abroad, it fights currency counterfeiting conducts investigations and protects foreign leaders. pierson has more than 30 years experience and start the her career in miami my hometown. we know she's a good, tough woman. president obama sitting down for interviews today with both telemundo and univision. this afternoon at the white

house. expect immigration to be a big topic of conversation. massachusetts polls from wbur shows ed markey is still ahead in the polls as he looks to get the democratic nod to i vie for john kerry's seat in the senate. 30% of voters say they're still undecided. representative markey does have the support of the democratic establishment. he has more money to spend and he has the support of democracy for america. interesting twist however representative lynch is polling with higher favorability numbers than markey. he's at 37 favorable to 12 unfavorable. markey's split is 32-23. as for possible republican challenger former u.s. attorney general michael sullivan is a front-runner but democrats hold a 17-point lead no matter who wins the republican nomination. the primaries are april 30th. mayors against illegal guns organizing a national day of action to demand action tomorrow on gun safety measures. vice president biden is holding

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story again about single payer. hi steph look what i saw on the chicago theatre marquee. april 13th, sexy liberal mama. i never get over being on the marquees of the big places. >> what is that? >> she never prints out the actual picture. there is a thumbnail. >> smallest marquee ever. >> stephanie: it is not actual size. all right. from my latest flight on southwest, back from tucson, where a -- >> a randi middle-aged woman -- >> stephanie: hornny straight chick airways asked if she could kiss me on the flight. to which i replied no. >> computer says no. >> does she know you have a radio show? >> stephanie: i know. let's hope she's not listening. >> did you think this through? >> stephanie: i was booking my flights to chicago. >> i know what i'm flying.

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using the button. >> what a great idea. >> stephanie: you can listen to me and call me on the same device. >> we need a truffle app. for a three-way. >> i'm sure a lot of dudes in the audience would go for that. >> buy that for a dollar. >> more expensive than that. >> stephanie: ron writes i have edited three books on bisexuality. oh really now? i was trying to express on the call that bisexual sit not complicated. >> stephanie: no, i get it. i don't think i was confused by it. >> what? >> stephanie: it is being attracted to persons of both or all genders. from what i can tell about you it sounds like the term fits. the first talkee, i think? wasn't it? >> it was. lillian dish was in it. besides which remains the

question how can you be truly sexy liberal if you're not at least a little bi. whatever gets you to buy a ticket. >> he just wants to show you his -- >> stephanie: guys think i haven't seen theirs yet and it will be i could have had a v8 moment. why didn't i see that earlier? hmm? but see, here's the question though jacki. it was interesting what dennis herrera was talking about about the supreme court arguments. and i worried about this when i came out because i hadn't been -- i had been with a man. does that hurt the -- being born that way argument or not. but i think that -- it is an evolution. i've talked to psychologists who say there is a scale of gay gay and straight straight. >> that's the kinzie scale. you have to -- it is a way where people fall all along that scale. >> stephanie: i don't see where that hurts the argument that you know, it is a --

because to me, why can't people be free to do whatever they want to do no matter what part of that scale you're on. >> it doesn't matter. you're not affecting anybody else. i don't understand. look, it is very difficult if you come from a place of understanding and acceptance and you were raised in an environment where people are just allowed to love each other and you want people to have healthy, stable, loving relationships. it is a hard thing to comprehend there's such bigotry and hate. to an institution expanding it doesn't hurt you personally. >> stephanie: justice scalia with the what about the children. will someone please think of the children argument yesterday. >> does very a whole house of kids? what is his story? >> stephanie: i'm looking for please think of the children sound byte. >> in general, does he have kids? >> somebody please send out the children. >> stephanie: he sounded a little hysterical yesterday. mary in california writes guys, my granddaughter natalie's

little friend hudson has two daddies. he has a fabulous wardrobe and a personal hairdresser who has rid him of the heartbreak of split ends so where's the harm there? [ applause ] just sayin'. >> does scalia have kids? >> stephanie: i don't know. i went through high school with hair like a bay city roller. >> and googly eyes. >> stephanie: richard in chicago. and a unibrow. >> caller: i would like to be deejay number one of "the stephanie miller show." >> you were the deejay in groundhog day. >> yes. i played olson in the prop 8 show here in chicago. and there's one sentence that i would just like to read to you. it goes in 1967, that's over 40 years ago, we would have punished as felons in the state of virginia, the president's mother and father if they had tried to travel there and be married. >> stephanie: yep. that's like -- that takes out one whole half of their argument which is it's dangerous to

everybody else's marriage because that's the exact same argument that was unanimously struck down by the court. >> stephanie: absolutely. you have an excellent deejay voice. i can see why you were cast. >> caller: hey listen, like half of the chat room will be there. >> stephanie: the traveler show. oh, yeah for the chat room. >> rocky mountain mike, tom everybody. >> stephanie: yeah. >> penny pick and his wife. everybody. >> stephanie: oh, my god. thank you richard. i can't wait. april 13th, party in chicago. see you there. all right honey. chat room people. i don't know what is going on there. they're a wild crowd. let me tell you what. audra from minneapolis is coming down. people literally they sit now with their backs to us. they're there to talk to each other. they don't care about me and hal and john anymore. audra from minneapolis. rocky mountain mike is coming. >> that's what he just said. rocky mountain mike is going to

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sexy liberals, saturday, april 13th in chicago. >> going to be a good time, don't ya know. >> stephanie: thank you audra. yeah. the whole gang will be there. so judge scalia has nine kids. >> yes. >> nine kids, 28 grandkids. >> stephanie: the law of average of nine kids, maybe one of them is -- [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> maybe more than one. >> stephanie: could be gay. [ applause ] >> stephanie: just saying mathematically, it is possible. let's go to january net madison. now might be a good time to come out to daddy. hello, janet in madison. >> caller: hi. i wanted to talk about the change in attitudes toward gay marriage. i think a lot of it has to do with that there are grandchildren who have gay grandparents. i'm 52. my boyfriend's mother is gay.

she obviously was married came out. her grandchildren only know grandma and louise. that's all they know. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: they have grandpa and grandma with his dad who remarried. and they have grandma and grandma. these kids are now 18, 19, 20 years old. i have many friends that are in their 70s and 80s who have grandchildren who are adults who are voting. i think that's why we're seeing such a huge difference. >> stephanie: when ted olson was talking about an evolution yesterday, janet that's what i was saying. we've had meredith baxter birney on the show and any number of people. they've had a different evolution. it happened later in life. i think that's the bottom line is that everybody should be free to make the choices they want to in america right? >> yeah. it is not just gay children now. we have gay grandparents is what i'm trying to say. it is more into the second

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♪ always something there to remind me ♪ ♪ always something there to remind me ♪ >> stephanie: what? today show's jenna is engage and having a baby. come on, jacki, everybody is doing it on tv. >> i do need a new toaster oven. can you register? >> stephanie: i would get a big one for you. speaking of which, i have an announcement regarding cnn's erin burnett and i. i will be on her show tonight.

>> again? >> that good she asked you back? >> two nights on a row. >> stephanie: i will be on her tonight and perhaps tomorrow night. they changed topics. hard to tell. booked and canceled, booked and canceled. >> i think she's taking a liking to you. >> stephanie: stop it. >> this is what we talked about last night jacki. you have seen this victoria's secret, the pink line, the bright young things line. it is kiddie porn. they're like marketing to tweens. they're going oh, no, it is for college girls. the girls are skinny porn. i always get invited on to give parenting advice. >> is that what you're suppose to the talk about tonight? >> stephanie: no, i did last night. because i was just saying isn't there some way to make being a supreme court justice sexy? put an astronaut helmet on with your bustier something. [ whatever! ] >> stephanie: halloween

people -- parents and their kids are looking like hookers. 10-year-old girls. it is a ballerina hooker. oh look. it is a witch hooker. >> slutty witch. that's an adult costume. not an 8-year-old costume. >> for their kids? >> stephanie: with all of the stuff we've been talking about the steubenville rape case, look at some of the panties. they say wild on one of them. i dare you on the front of one of the pairs of panties and feeling lucky printed on the back. >> far cry from days of the week. >> stephanie: exactly. >> and they're marketing these to kids? >> stephanie: yeah. victoria's secret executive said when someone is 15 or 16, they want to be older. an older hooker apparently. they want to be cool like the girl in college. that's part of what the magic is we do here at pink. >> what are the parents doing taking their kids underwear shopping. they're probably going to the mall by themselves. kids are 15, 16, going to the

malls by themselves and they're going to buy. >> stephanie: the girls in the ad don't look -- >> when i think older hooker, 65-year-old hooker who is trying to squeak out a few more -- >> stephanie: dirty french whore. "les miz." >> stephanie: okay. we've been talking about the steubenville case. we talked to tracy lords yesterday. we were talking about the role of social media in all of this. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] making it worse that these pictures and stuff ends up on -- this girl even know what happens until it ends up on twitter. connecticut, high school players in a rape case gained social media support. >> support. >> stephanie: across platform like twitter and instagram students continue to express support for 18-year-old high school football players gonzalez and whoever, they were charged with sexual assault of two 13-year-old girls using the

hashtag free edgar. posted messages in defense of gonzalez who remains jailed. that's what's just weird to me. you were talking about an exchange on tv about someone going these poor kids meaning the guys in the steubenville case? >> cnn. >> stephanie: right. similarities and then they draw the similarities to the steubenville case. and then the victims in both cases, also the target of cyber bullying. it is amazing. >> i saw that video. i think you mentioned it yesterday where the guy says look what i'm going to do the girl. she's passed out. he puts a pillow under her head. the ending line is real men respect women. i think that has to be the respectable norm. it has to be. we have to come to a point where we say yes if a woman makes a poor decision, to drink too much or to put herself in a situation that might not be the safest decision, that we have to teach our young men and fellow women frankly, to take care of each

other because that was the other thing that was astonishing. i watched that special on "20/20" and they interviewed the kids who were there and the girl's best friend was one of the interviewees. she was telling police the girl kept saying i want to go with the football player. i want to go with the football player. the friend was like i know i shouldn't have let her. i should have stopped her. if your friends are making poor drunk decision, you have to be strong enough to go don't go. >> stephanie: get out of victoria's secret with your 12-year-old and tell them to be a good friend to their girlfriends and be a good guy. help girls in that situation. don't take advantage. >> there are no heroics to having sex with a girl who is passed out. >> stephanie: no macho points. >> no points. >> stephanie: right back on "the stephanie miller show."

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>> this is why i hated my two weeks at the academy of tricks. no one knew who was the shuttiest. i showed them. i showed them all. >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." we know we get e-mails. >> listen to greg, he knows the in-flight meal on transvaginal bicurious airlines, boxed lunch. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: all right. get it out of your system. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] >> stephanie: william with a question. my morning routine is becoming more and more lesbianic. first, you and now jenna wolf and stephanie expecting a baby

girl. >> i'm not familiar with them. >> is everybody gay? >> computer says yes. >> stephanie: this week, everybody is. it is a scene from in and out in support of marriage equality at the supreme court. [ applause ] at least you can get home and watch rachel maddow. >> rachel rachel maddow is a guy. >> stephanie: no, she is not. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: she is a beautiful woman. >> you're thinking of justin bieber. >> stephanie: stop it. john in las vegas you're on "the stephanie miller show." hello, john. >> caller: hey stephanie. you make me laugh every morning. set up the day great. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: i just wanted to say about this supreme court discussion that it is a constitutional issue not a religious issue. >> stephanie: that's right. >> caller: civil rights are not a religious issue. that all men are created equal according to the constitution. >> stephanie: yep. absolutely.

ask thomas jefferson. we'll have to read that quote again. all right. jacki, you and i were talking about this amanda knox. reportedly shocked by italy's supreme court ruling yesterday that she must be retried for murder. amanda knox's attorney yesterday. >> she's very sad. she thought this was the end of a nightmare but she's also very strong in the sense she's willing to fight again. >> she has to be extradited though. >> no. they can try her in absentia. she doesn't have to go. >> stephanie: they're saying she might never be extradited. we went to a book party for your friend's husband. >> andrew gumbel wrote with raffaele sollecito -- >> stephanie: her ex-boyfriend. >> i can never pronounce his name correctly. he wrote his story with him. and we went to the party for the release of this book. andrew and his cohorts were talking about how the

prosecution had really bungled all of this and how this really came down to amanda and rafael sol ito not doing the right thing in the moment and making poor decisions but not that there was any indication they had done anything wrong. there is another man who is in jail convicted for having killed amanda's roommate. >> stephanie: she's back in seattle. >> she's back in seattle. rafael is back at home in italy. the two of them spent four years in prison for a crime they didn't commit. we thought this was done and over with but it was a combination of the prosecution making up its mind long before they had the proper evidence or any evidence whatsoever and then trying to find a path to convicting them. >> stephanie: interesting. >> also rafaelly and amanda into the being the brightest bulbs -- >> stephanie: was andrew surprised? >> he's traveling with his family so i haven't been able to talk to him. i can do that.

>> stephanie: please get on that. she's a full-time reporter. >> actually maybe we can get him to come on the show and talk about it. >> i was reading this morning this pits two of our major laws against each other. our extradition laws with italy it pits that with our constitutional right of double jeopardy. it puts those two at odds. i don't think it has been done before. >> italy doesn't have the double jeopardy law we have. it doesn't sound like they would extradite her. >> stephanie: could alex trebek be extradited? >> for double jeopardy? [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: complex legal issue. cynthia, you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: good morning. >> stephanie: hello. >> caller: i wanted to make a comment about the -- the justices continue to say that this isn't the right time to do this. their job is to uphold the constitution. that's what they're supposed to do. all that's vacillating about

that is ridiculous. i think it is a positive thing. i think that they can see it is a no-brainer and really the only correct decision to be made is that they should be able to marry whoever they want to marry, period. >> if they all have the uninalienable right to be as miserable as we are. i don't see why we're trying to keep them from having all of that. that's my comment. >> stephanie: thank you cynthia. appreciate it. all straight people ever have, the most stellar family values, oh, there's david petraeus. [ buzzer ] general petraeus yesterday. >> i'm also keenly aware the reason for my recent journey was my own doing. so please allow me to begin my remarks this evening by reiterating how deeply i regret and apologize for the circumstances that led to my resignation from the c.i.a. and caused such pain for my family friends and supporters. >> stephanie: he went on to

say this... >> i know that i can never fullies a wage the pain i inflicted on those close to me and on a number of others. >> stephanie: jim -- [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] a quote. who said when people say i can't stand the thought of what two men do in bed i wondier they're visualizing other people having sex. i wonder if they're doing with that every couple they meet. i wonder if they know they're perverts. >> charles nelson riley. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: doesn't say who. i don't know. it was a trick. [ applause ] >> fell for it again. >> stephanie: rocky in new jersey. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hello, rocky. >> caller: hi, stephanie. thank you for what you do with road flare mary. one thing we know the thing that resists change to most is vested interest in religious

beliefs. it has been that way since the dawn of man. the only way you can get jobs is by going out there and being politically active. when they all -- when you go out there and they don't -- the people that have their interests do not willfully give it up. you have to go out there and peaceably, if you can take it. because you have the right as any american to have exactly what everybody else has. it doesn't make a difference who you're sleeping with. when people understand that in this country it becomes easier. it is harder for the oppressed for the oppressor than it is for the oppressed. when they figure that out, it will be a lot better for everybody. >> stephanie: i agree. thank you sir. yes, sir we have a new gay marriage dem? >> senator kay hagan. >> stephanie: we welcome her from the great state of north carolina. i just started airing in salsbury north carolina, on monday. we have brought her to the light. >> i know there are strong feelings on both sides. i have a great deal of respect

for their opinions. after much thought and prayer, this is where i am today. >> stephanie: my sister is giving a fund-raiser for her. >> she's good. >> stephanie: she's awesome. i think is the pressure from me. okay. wayne in los angeles. >> why stop now? >> stephanie: what's your point, sweater vest? wayne in los angeles you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi wayne. >> caller: stephanie, missed you last week. >> stephanie: thank you. missed you. >> caller: listen, hal made a comment last week that made so much sense. he said he wasn't gay but he was gay adjacent. so we can all relate. of course, you can relate a bit more than the rest of us. >> stephanie: it is not as good as being gay. it is like beverly hills adjacent but it is close enough. >> caller: only thing i want you to do. please make the suggestion for me. when you make the comparison to other civil rights instances like you know, what happened with black people in america and you know, to us, it is an unfair

comparison. keep in mind, i'm absolutely a supporter. >> stephanie: i get it. how so. how is it different? >> caller: well because people died and i'm not saying matthew shepherd -- you know -- >> stephanie: why do we have to compare pain? why can't we all have equal rights? >> caller: okay. so my point is let us stand on its own merit. you're correct. you're making my point for me. >> stephanie: i'm not arguing with you about that. i'm not arguing with you. i'm just kidding. >> caller: many times what the gentleman was trying to say a bit earlier was that it is very different. you know. you're talking about something that was actually a crime against humanity versus something that's morally and legally wrong. and that's the argument that the other side has. they're saying that morally you guys shouldn't be able to get married and legally and ethically and because of religious reasons and it is absurd on its face and that's

how it should be attacked. >> stephanie: we all have different experience. the point a lot of people make is black people didn't have to come out to their parents as black. so we all have different experiences. i think that time is over when we're going to pit ourselves against each other. >> i hope so. >> stephanie: divide and conquer. ironically enough, remember, chris, they made is seem like the president was for prop 8. he was not. >> that's right. >> stephanie: vivian in madison, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi vivian. >> caller: hi. so glad you're taking my call. i wanted to agree with an earlier caller who was speaking about some supreme court judges being concerned about moving too fast on the issue of same-sex marriage. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: wasn't it those same, conservative judges who had no problems surge ahead and deciding against precedent in citizens case, that corporations were people. and now those judges --

deciding -- >> stephanie: vivian how about that. corporations have more rights than gay people? >> caller: yeah. now those judges are balking at deciding whether some actual people are like other actual people? i mean give me a break. >> stephanie: vivian, you're the smartest girl in class this morning. >> caller: thank you. >> she sounded very -- >> stephanie: i'm going to tell you that all day! >> just a participation ribbon. >> stephanie: 45 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> we have to seem like a sexy, profitable company and we're almost pulling it off. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show."

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>> stephanie miller. ♪ you bad girl, you bad girl, you're such a dirty bad girl ♪ ♪ uh-huh ♪ >> stephanie: yeah. it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 49 minutes after the hour. oh, here's not so fun fact. judge scalia's son paul, works for a group that cures gays. >> oh really? >> you have to understand, barbarians need to be educated. they need to be disciplined. >> stephanie: by the way jacki schechner had a smoke alarm emergency this morning. apparently still going o matthew writes if jacki didn't choose to be short, she could have easily taken care of her smoke alarm. ow or if i chose to be gay, i would marry you, you would move in and take care of my smoke alarm because you're taller. >> stephanie: looky what i can

do. one of the best choices i've ever made. tall lifestyle can be daunting but why anyone would choose the handicap of short is puzzling to me. >> utilizing humor during this demonstration. >> thank you steven crowder. >> single? >> matthew. >> stephanie: cali in sacramento you're on the "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hey, stephanie. i'm so excited to talk to you. i wanted to talk about another challenge that presents itself with this issue in california in prop 8. there is a lot of misunderstandings and misinformation that's put out even by supposedly unbiased or neutral news sources like this morning on npr, they were stating that in california, domestic partnership establishes the laws so we have equal rights as a married couple would already under the domestic partnership laws but see the

way in which they discriminate against us is sneaky and tricky so like my partner's health benefits get taxed as income. where a married person's partner wouldn't be. so they discriminate in ways you can't see on the face but they're still there and it still impacts us. >> stephanie: very good point. by the way, i don't know what is going on. jacki dating game today. might you -- schechner looks especially hot today. thanks for being my conduit/pimp. whatever. >> stephanie: why don't i get a date from my own show? >> apparently she is a bad girl. >> apparently. >> you ask the question why you're not getting dates. >> noy what boys like. [ ♪ nah nah nah nah nah ♪ ] >> apparently not having any time to get ready as you deal with a rampant smoke alarm is working wonders for me. >> stephanie: she's a bad bad

leather wearing girl. i can confirm that. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] wow. you know, you were talking jacki about the steubenville case about girls being good friends to each other. when other girls get drunk. and guys being good guys. what part of the story about -- first of all, we cannot get enough stories about "the today show." but the rivalry between "the today show" and "good morning america" apparently so contentious, nbc's ann curie was forbidden to reach out to robin roberts after she was diagnosed with cancer. ann curry asked if she could tweet a note of sympathy. they said no. afraid she was trying to aid the enemy. it is morning television. trust me, this is not curing cancer. >> is that before or after they were bad to ann curry? >> stephanie: i don't know. ridiculous. when do people stop being humans? >> when you pass out on the couch, what do i do? >> stephanie: i don't remember because i was passed out but i'm sure it was something nice. >> if i remember correctly, you sent a note to laura ingraham.

>> stephanie: don't try to make me look like a good -- now you're going to ruin everything. >> when she had health problems, you sent a nice note. >> stephanie: she wrote me a nice note back. cancer touches both sides of the aisle. pretty much all of us have experienced it in our friends or family. jim, you've been watching the jim carrey, charlton heston thing. it is comedy. i heard a right wing guy say charlton heston is dead. okay. >> yeah. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] >> stephanie: he took to twitter to blast opponents of gun control calling them heartless mother -- sorry not that. heartless mother stephanie millers? >> he was promoting cold, dead hand. it is a new funny or die video. he lambastes the gun lobby. he feels passionate about it. he has kids. i thought it was funny. did you?

>> yes. >> you can't make fun of charlton heston apparently. >> stephanie: apparently you can't. >> get your hands off of me. >> rich little made fun of him all the time. >> that was the '70s. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] >> stephanie: dionne warwick is bankrupt. diana warwick? if she have a psychic net work? couldn't someone have told her? she owes more than $10 million in unpaid taxes. do you know the way to san quentin? [ ♪ circus ♪ ] no. we don't want her to go to debtor's prison. she's is lovely. we wish her well. all right. here's someone we don't wish well. eva mendez. does she know dionne warwick? [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] >> jana warlock? >> stephanie: she has a shock collar on her dog.

[ buzzer ] >> no! >> allegedly tested it out on herself first. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: she uses it on herself which is kind of hot. >> which part of herself? >> oh, my god! [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: we need a shock collar for jim. >> oh yeah. turn it up. oh yeah. >> can i sit over there? >> get away from the bad man. >> stephanie: don't wear leather. you're asking for it. >> are you saying it is the way i'm dressed? >> stephanie: blame the victim time. >> blame the pinball machine. >> stephanie: get a pinball machine for this room. i don't get this. she says -- he loves to chase animals including squirrels and she don't want him to hurt other creatures. she said all he wants to do is prove his love to me. kill for me. it is so sweet. he's like a little soprano. >> like taylor dayne. just wants to prove his love.

>> stephanie: i get in there. i use a shock collar on him. i have the remote. i have tried it on myself at all levels. the levels are zero to 110. yikes. which is technically higher than 11. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] jim, guess who is the most expensive ex-president ever. >> mmm milford fillmore. >> stephanie: no. george w. bush. wasn't he worth it? [ applause ] >> what makes him so expensive? >> stephanie: his painting. black paint. paint barney over and over and over. he clocked in at over $1.3 million, almost $400,000 for office space.

>> he doesn't do anything. why does he need office space? >> $85,000 in telephone costs. a lot of that is prank calls. you know it is. [ ♪ circus ♪ ] where's obama? >> it is not like he's working on world peace for anything. >> is your refrigerator running? >> why does he need an office? >> stephanie: he's planning for his library. >> wish i could learn how to spell libary. >> stephanie: how much you want to want to bet it will be spelled libary and nobody will notice. that's it for us. chris lavoie, jim ward, t-bone and jacki schechner. we'll see you tomorrow on "the stephanie miller show."

we don't really want to use guns as a weapon, to try to harm anybody. that's not what we're about, but we are about protecting our hard work. i'm hoping it's what, 75 pounds? i'd be happy with that. i'd be happy with 75 pounds. hopefully, my partner would be happy with that? otherwise we're looking for new jobs next year buddy.... back to framing... slinging asphalt.