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>> coming up tonight, the president only needed these handful of words to perfectly sum up the gun control debate today, shame on us if we forget newtown. i'm michael shure. you're in the war room. ♪ theme ♪ cenk: when is enough enough? is the death of 20 small children, six teachers and the consensus of the american people enough? is a 20-year-old killer with seven guns and 1400 rounds of ammunition enough or $28 million
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in campaign contributions enough to overshadow everything else? our politicians many of them paraliesed by the fear of a well-funded gun lobby pushed the nation to the breaking point. today marks 100 days since new town and 55 children and 100 teens have died from gun violence. newtown police today released search warrants from the killer's home, revealing he had an enormous weapons arsenal. adam lanza hat more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition, three knives, two samurai swords, two guns and a ruden pole with a blade and spear. most troubling was a seven-foot long spreadsheet with a list of 500 other mass killers. a newtown prefer told a allowance forcement conference that the spreadsheet listed the number of victims and precise
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make and model of the weapons used. he wanted to be at the very top of that list. he had an n.r.a. membership coward the same that poured $28 million in our presidential elections last year. they could finds no record of his meship. how did a 20-year-old shut in get his hands on all of these guns? they were legally owned by his mother, who he also killed. the connecticut police believed she was making straw purchases for him all along. they found a local day card with a check inside for purchasing a firearm. he used this firearm to kill 20 first graders and six teachers in five minutes firing 155 shots in that short period of time. parents of the children killed that day reacted. >> does it make you angry to read the search warrant? >> no, it just reaffirmed my
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notion that we need to come together as a nation, as a society to try to fix this. >> every detail i hear is painful. i realize that nothing is going to bring dylan back. i prefer to focus less on what was found in the house and car and more on what we can do to make changes so this doesn't happen again in the future. >> the parents of three other young newtown victims were at the white house today. the president was himself flanked by mothers all of whom had lost children to gun violence. >> tears aren't enough expressions of sympathy aren't enough. speeches aren't enough. we've cried enough, we've known enough heartbreak. what we're proposing is not radical, it's not taking away
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anybody's gun rights, it's something that if we are serious, we will do. now is the time to that you were heartbreak into something real. >> the president called for congress to pass background checks which has the support of 91% of americans. that will be introduced at part of the senate's gun safety package. senate republicans went on the offensive, saying offensive things. they accused the president of politicizing it. mike lee said: >> lee, who sits on the senate judiciary committee, warned that he would filibuster any legislation against any legislation to expand background
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checks or ban high-capacity magazines and assault weapons. you know, the kind of legislation that would have prevented this crime. and it's not just lee, other republicans have also pledged to filibuster and block any legislation. marco rubio, ted cruz and rand paul will join lee - the four horsemen of the apocolypse. they would actually hold up our democratic process to keep from passing laws that would help protect children from gun-stockpiling maniacs. and senator chuck grassley is also working on an alternative bill that would likely remove background checks, which could further complicate the process. but hey, he's just doing what he's paid to: grassley got over $6,000 from the n.r.a. in his 2010 re-election campaign but on the other side of the aisle, some democratic funders are fighting back. two big donors announced today they wont fund any democrats who don't support background checks. for them, enough is enough.
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>> he comes to us from washington d.c., collin, welcome back inside the war room. >> good to be back with you. >> what was the mood like at the white house? >> the mood was intense. i mean, there was a lot of emotional people there mothers who even a few months ago lost their child to gun violence. you saw mothers behind the president and vice president crying during statements that were made. it was just a reminder of why we do this, to put a face on a problem that needs to be real for so many of us, that 91% of us support measures that would reduce the likelihood of these types of shootings happening to their family. it was intense but encouraging to see the president's commitment again. >> you've been to a lot of these events. you are certainly the face of our show when it comes to this, you talked about it eloquently
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and you stand up for it. i know i've heard you say it to me before that this is progress, you're seeing the vice president, the president. are you starting to get discouraged at all about what you're facing here as far as legislation on the hill? looks like the gun package is going to need every single democratic to secure those 60 votes needed to pass. >> i'm not discouraged at all. we've got a lot of awesome activity going on. we're causing a ruckus back at home when the folks are back at home. we have so many people who never talked about gun violence before, even gun owners saying these measures i can support it's not going to stop me from owning a gun. we get to do some high-profile events at the white house and grassroots activity. we are changing the paradigm. we have to make decision-makers and politicians fear us, the american people more than they do the gun industry. >> that's a really great way of putting it, changing the
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paradigm making them father you, hear you. one of the most remarkable things about bill clinton is he never hated his enemies. i just read that quote from mike lee, senator of utah. if i were you, i would be going crazy. i appreciate that you're there and not me, but when you hear about these republicans how can they filibuster a bill that has the support of the majority of the people? is there anything the people can do to stop them and do you think this is going to hurt them in the long run no. >> i think it absolutely will. if you don't support the bill, then vote against it. don't not let us discuss it and talk about it. that is just not allowing democracy to exist as it should, work as it should. that's fundamentally undemocratic and goes against everything that this institution here in d.c. is supposed to be representing, the will of the people. they're not doing that. they're just trying to block a conversation about an issue that the american people obviously
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clearly want to talk about. it's have it is ridiculous. it does really upset me, and it just now i just think of ways to make the voice of the american people heard. if you're watching this program now and live in one of their states you feed to let your voice be heard to them directly. it's ridiculous what they said and we need to hold them accountable for it. >> ridiculous is exactly what it is there are a hundred gun rallies around the country today organized by the obama campaign. is that just carrying the torch or bringing new life into the movement? >> absolutely, the engagement of so many groups on this issue groups who never discussed gun violence before now realizing that this is an issue that we need to resolve make progress on, that we can't just extend our sympathies and condolences after these mass shootings. we have to do something about it. we can't sit back and be so
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surprised how can this happen when nothing can change. the engagement of these groups is critical. it is so encouraging to see all the activity we have on the ground right now coupled with these big high profile events from the white house that keep happening. we are clearly engaged, the white house is engaged. we are engaging the american people. we will see obama sign this into law. it's just a matter of time. >> it's fantastic to hear that from you because from afar, it becomes disgarage r. couraging when you see the voices on the other side the democrats fear who are scared of what they see back home. how can you get the message to those democrats that this is popular in america the right thing to do, don't worry about losing. if you vote the way america wants you to vote, you are going to be fine. >> i heard senator kay hagan said she hears about this background check in as something
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people want. that's what we're doing. we're having industry meetings requesting her. we're doing letter writing campaigns, this is grassroots 101. we have so many new allies on this issue that we haven't had in years past. if the american people keep this up and continue their engagement, we will succeed. we can do this. like the president said today we're better than this. people realize that. they need to make their elected officials show it, too. >> you're like the coach of a team that's 1-6 going into the eighth game of the year saying we're going to win this thing eventually. thank you for visiting. it creates optimism for us. you deserve a vote. i hope you get that vote.
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out to they're are willing to come to a deal on immigration, a big issue for that very group. eric cantor said that his party is behind immigration retomorrow. he's doing it for wait for it, for the kids. he actually said he was looking out for chirp even as his rupp colleagues lambasted the president for politicizing newtown. >> we've got an opportunity i think to come together on one points and that is the kids. if a kid was brought here by his parents or her parents unbeknown as the to them and know no other place than home, than america's home why wouldn't we want to give them a path to citizenship? >> let your president stop politicizing newtown.
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this is about the kids. >> the president gave a specific time line for doing it. >> i'm actually optimistic when they get back, they will introduce a bill. that my expectation is we'll actually see a bill on the floor of the senate next month. >> that time line is so crucial. if negotiations go on too long, republicans seeking reelection next year might get scared off. if that's not enough of a reason perhaps the will of the people is. a poll finds seven out of 10 americans say there should be a pathway to citizenship. even among republicans, 53% agree. for some republican voters, the bipartisan immigration plan isn't conservative enough. this fall, they plan to show their frustration at the polls. 16 tore lindsey graham faces opposition from tea partyers in his home state of south carolina. his place on the gang of eight might hurt him. for tea party voters, doing the
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right thing for the country simply isn't enough. joining me now to look at immigration reform is jason johnson, the chief political correspondent for politics 365.com. he comes to us from atlanta georgia tonight. jason, welcome back into the war room. >> glad to be here. >> there seems to be some consensus forming now. what's going to be in that immigration bill? >> it will probably have some sort of pathway to citizenship. the part eric cantor isn't talking about, you love the kids but what about their parents, parents who came here legally. you still have to find a way for those parents to be taken care of and to stay. there's going to be a path to citizenship. that's just not what the gop wants to talk about right now. >> going on this family idea
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here, what are some of the offers the democrats have been making in terms of concessions on that? do you know any of that, or can you imagine what they might be? >> there's a way of sort of graduating the process in, a way of making people permanent residents, but still not legal citizens. you know, those are some of the things that are being offered. there are actually additional taxes that people might have to pay, fees they might have to pay, citizenship courses they might have to pay. there are a lot of things that come into play. the important thing to remember here, this is not a panacea for the republican party. most republicans still think immigrants are taking their jobs immigrants are problematic, lays and difficult. this isn't saving everything. it's just one step from what needs to be probably a generation long process. >> that's important to remember. like they say the first step in a long journey.
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the journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, something like that. the president and eric cantor are signaling this could get done before the fall. does this seem possible? >> it's possible. we have a lot of different issues on the table right now. if you had asked me two months ago, i would say immigration had a snowball's chance in jamaica but i think it's got a pretty good chance now. we're clearly not going to see anything happen with guns, we may or may not see anything happen with gay marriage. for congress to look like its done something and haven't been completely without doing something, it's a greater possibility than those other two policy oh issues. >> they had a bobsled team in
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america, so anything's possible. >> and a great movie. >> tell me about guns a little bit, though. i don't know if i feel the same way about guns passing as you do. what do you feel about the likelihood of gun legislation? >> i don't think any of it's going to get passed. >> really? >> this is what i find fascinating. you've had members of congress, republicans and democratic flip sides on gay marriage like crazy. they're flipping like hot cakes on gay marriage over the last two and a half weeks and yet gun control with where it's a life and death issue people are still gripping to the old way of thinking. that suggests to me that there is too much money too much anger, too much resistance to see any fundamental and substantive changes and gun policy in america. i think it's a shame. i think the fact that people can't see past whatever's going to end up in their pocketbooks or resistance to this president unfortunately, i don't think we're moving at all on gun
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issues. >> collin goddard seemed more optimistic. do you think this is all about money then? you talk about gays, you talk about guns and you're saying that guns aren't going to happen. do you think it's fully about money? does that mean bloomberg is losing to the n.r.a.? >> it's always about money. gay rights is about money. it's about you've got organizations that say we're not going to support you if you don't support gay marriage. the n.r.a., we've got to think past the n.r.a. and realize this is part of the industrial military complex in america. guns are one small part. this goes into prisons, the military. the fact that you have a large number of republicans and democrats who aren't afraid of having the n.r.a. go against them. they're afraid of the n.r.a.'s money. i don't see the substantive change we need. will there be small piecemeal
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changes? of course we will. we will see the kind of change that mayors against illegal guns are asking for? i don't think so and that's unfortunate. >> it's really unfortunate. i hope you're wrong on that issue. i hope the backgrounds checks at the very least are going to happen. you make great points about what controls all of approximate in that i just think the fear of the n.r.a., jason is so overblown. jason john john is at politics365.com. thanks for joining us. coming up, vast amounts of money is flowing into right wing think tanks for ideas that go to your officials who pass terrible laws to which you get stuck. >> from lobster pots to pot and lobster, maine is poised to become the next state to legalize marijuana.
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we think by doing so we can make louisiana a better place to raise a family to create good paying jobs. michael: in his proposal, the loss of $2.9 billion in revenue from those taxes would be partially offset by raising sales taxes. a new study by the pelican institute gives jindal's tax plan a big thumbs up, claiming it would improve the bayou's state's economy and would boost household income on average by $910. but before cajuns get too excited, they should look a little closer at the pelican institute. even in the pelican state. it's a member of a group called state policy network or s.p.n., a nonprofit which supports conservative think tanks in all fifty states. s.p.n. and its affiliates are backed by republican donors like the coors family, the kochs and corporate interests like exxon mobil and phillip morris. so the good citizens of all the states with similar schemes to dump income tax and raise sale taxes should seriously question
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who really benefits. and if they're the same snake oil salesmen who keep saying how great that scheme really is. joining me he tonight is lee fong, a contributor to the nation who is investigating state policy network. welcome back to the war room, lee. >> hey michael thanks for having me. michael: of course. we've talked on this show about the american legislative exchange council alec, working as a right wing bill mill. what does the state policy network to in relation to alec14. >> it is basically the p.r. firm for alec. spn will set up a think tank in a state capitol create policy papers to support that policy, o perform-eds, place media pieces supporting that policy and lobby
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the legislature to see i enacted. they're taking what alec creates and putting their weight to make it allow. michael: sounds like these think tanks are through issuing. why is that? >> the pelican institute was started in 2009, really after the 2008 election. republican planners looked beyond washington and saw that state capitols was where they could still have potential growth, so based on the disclosures that i reported in this story, we've seen 10s of millions of dollars flow to these either new think tanks like the pelican institute or existing state think tanks all over the country so they can compile over 400 journalists. they are also aggressively going after their opposition, creating these new websites to promote these types of kind of radical right wing reforms and really just overtaking their perceived enemies on the left.
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michael: so, you know, we brought this up because of bobby jindal the louisiana governor. his plan is to eliminate state income taxes. is this pushed in other states or just the louisiana thing? >> this is a common agenda. s.p.n. told me there is no coordinated game plan, but if you look at every single one of these think tanks, they are basically pushing the same set of policies. some of identical to the alec agenda. what jindal is doing in louisiana is being pushed in indiana, where recently elected governor mike pence has put forth a similar plan. they are cutting corporate and upper income tax rates and then raising the sales tax which is quite regressive. michael: with these regressive taxes, is that something that there's any counter to? in other words we know what alec does and because of you're
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writing, we know what they're doing. is there anything countering them? i heard howard dean wants to do his 50 state plan, today it with statehouses. would that be a counter to what spn is doing? >> there are liberal think tanks in the states. if you look at the tax disclosure democrats are talking about flipping taxes by pouring their political structure into that state. you have to take the big-picture view. state by state compare the left or the left-leaning institutes and think tankies to the right ones and there's really no comparison. in michigan, i did the numbers and they are outspending the left five orr six oh one. enmany states, it's two or three to one. the monetary advantage is obvious. while a little union money negotiation to the left of center think tanks corporate money is really making the biggest difference. big corporations, you mentioned phillip morris, but there are
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many of them, really pitching up these state think tanks and winning many of these battles not just on tax and regulatory issues, they are consolidating power. michael: today michigan's right to work law takes effect. that's the union-busting law signed by republican governor rick snyder last december. what role did s.p.n. play? >> i took a listen to some of these s.p.n. meetings, went to some of these events. they really view that law in michigan as their crowning achievement. they've got a lot of different policy goals, but the biggest is consolidating power by eliminating unions. s.p.n. went into michigan early. they've been talking about right
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to work. last december, they were quietly negotiating with the governor to kind of spring this on the legislature. a lot of democrats didn't even know this was coming. they set up a booth early on in front of the capitol had ads ready to go, had a bus tour ready to go. when the governor kind of broke his promise and rushed through right to work, he had this huge political infrastructure to give him political cover. michael: that's exactly what they're after. it's amazing that jindal has the gall to cite their findings. lee, thanks for coming in and making you guess smarter appreciate it. up next, the odds that marijuana legalization could turn into a legal hot box are escalating. it's a story you can only find in the war room, so stay with us. for true stories. with award winning documentaries
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michael: it's time now to check out the "state of the states" when it comes to marijuana law. it's an issue, like same-sex marriage, that the beltway won't touch but states are addressing head-on. only two states, washington and colorado, allow adults to use marijuana recreationally. they are now grappling with how to run a system that is counter to federal law. another 17 states, mostly in the west and northeast, allow marijuana for medical use. an effort in maine to extend medical marijuana to all adults is picking up steam. a bill to to allow possession up to two and a half ounces and tax the drug at 50 dollars per ounce made it out of a legislative committee yesterday. in colorado, the states's
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medical marijuana enforcement division is getting low marks as it transitions to drop the "medical" from its name. lawmakers are up in arms over an audit that found it plagued by low funding, poor oversight and a slow permitting process. i'm sure the funding and permitting would pick up if you could just use pot to shoot bullets. michael: to find out the "state" of the country's patchwork of marijuana laws, we turn to david downs. he covers the evolving marijuana laws for the "smell the truth" blog. welcome inside the war room. >> thanks for having me, michael. >> david how is it going now? >> it's fair to call it growing pains. they've seen fluctuating budgets, as well as the realities of enforcing policy differ widely from what it looked like on the paper. michael: when you say they're having growing pains this is all new terrain for everyone, so
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people of kind of feeling out how it's going to work. >> we're talking about dating a black market industry. they have experience with doing that in colorado with gambling. the way they did it with gambling, they thought they'd give it over to them and now it's going to take some time to put together. michael: is washington state facing the same difficulties? >> washington is even earlier along in the process. they just hired their marijuana consultant and he's going to help them outline how to run their production, distribution, transportation, the whole thing set taxes. michael: and he comes from california. hes a ucla professor. is that role going to exist in each of the 50 states or they're just trying to figure a good way out of doing it? >> yeah, they really are in unchartered territory as a state and climen represents the best in the breed in terms of knowledge about the interaction
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between market, policy and ways to prevent unintended consequences. >> according to the legalization advocation group marijuana policy project other states could follow the path to legalization for adults. what sort of road blocks are there? >> many of them are institutional. you're going to see in the maine case, significant issues raised in the senate, as well as in new york, you are seeing a medical marijuana bill that died in the senate last year and the new one now is going to face more road blocks in the senate. we're dealing with interests that have spent 70 years enforcing drug policy and any changes in the marv law moves some people's sheets around the board. >> we hear the justice department is going to weigh in on this soon. soon has never been defined. what do you expect eric holder's next move is going to be with
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states like colorado and washington? >> the scuttlebutt is they could sue. >> the doma situation gay marriage is another big state versus the people issue or state versus federal issue. a recent poll shows marijuana legalization has more support than same-sex marriage. we heard about the same-sex portage support. it's as high as 67% in younger voters. why is marijuana lagging behind same-section marriage and becoming legal at the state level if this popularity actually has it ahead? >> that's a great question. it comes down to values for a certain amount of people. to a certain degree, being soft on crimes or drugs will really hold up politicians in a way that we're not seeing with the gay rights issue like some of our other correspondents
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mentioned earlier politicians are flipping left and right on this, but you're going to see the politicians lead from behind if they lead at all with regard to marijuana law reform. michael: i always think of this, first of all, it was a political hot button to say you even tried pot. now it's normal or someone running for office. when you say the politicians are going to be leading from behind, how soon do you think it's going to be politically expedient to say that you favor marijuana legalization? >> here in california, you have the representative of san francisco who is an advocate. even he says that here in california, the majority of his fellow lawmakers are afraid of their own shadow with regards to changing marijuana law. try to imagine this situation playing out in any deeply red state, and you can just imagine. michael: what's compelling too is this whole idea of taxing.
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they're going to tax so heavily this marv marijuana, how soon until the people go back to the black market? >> marijuana is widely available in this country. tenth graders report easy access to it. the most common price paid is zero, it's gifted to them by friends. any type of taxation above and beyond the actual cost to produce is going to run into the reality on the street where pot's available for cheap. >> i love when 10th graders are the demographic. we polled 10th graders. >> everyone talks about keeping this drug away from kids and that's why they're against all these changes to laws. it's important to remember for decades, the drug's been widely available. >> the blog is called smell the truth. thank you for these in sights. it's not just as simple as ok, you can have recreational pot.
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michael: today in our ongoing series, "the march goes on," we're talking about the south. you can't talk about the civil rights movement without it. for some, there is a nostaglia for the old south. but for a majority, it wasn't a pretty picture. i'm talking slavery, jim crow, segregation, and lynchings. but the south is a different place today. it's a new south. african americans, who left in droves during the past century for a better life, are returning in huge numbers. in georgia, for example, over the last decade, the number of blacks increased more than 25%.
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and many are a part of an upwardly mobile and middle class. michael: interracial marriage is just as commonplace as any other part of america. and the influx of latino immigrants is re-defining how the south looks and speaks. which leads to this question: what does it mean to be a southerner today? tracy thompson spent four years traveling all around the south to find out and put it in her new book ''the new mind of the south," and she us from washington d.c. to talk about her discoveries. welcome inside the war room, tracy. >> hello thanks for having me. michael: tracy you're georgia native who hasn't lived in the south for over 20 years. what made you write this book? >> i think it was sort of a life-long confusion over what i meant when i said i'm a southerner. it sort of came to a head when i discovered i had an ancestor who had a unionist during the war and been run out of the state for his refusal to fight for the
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confederate army. i pulled that thread and it was like a whole tissue of lies came apart for me. i realized that there was an awful lot about the south that i didn't understand, even though i'd grown up there and that there was an awful lot about the south that was changing. michael: so after this journey did you ever answer your question for you what does it mean to be a southerner? >> to a point yeah, it's a complicated topic, but yeah. i think being a southerner today, whether you're black white or latino or asian it means living in a part of the country where there is a widely shared cultural belief in the importance of family and community and extended kinship networks. i think that's true of a lot of areas, but especially true in the south which was egrerian
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until recently. michael: those are warm, engages things about a people or geography. how have those been reconciled over the years and what brings new latin immigrants to that part of the country? >> one of the things about the south that's fascinating is that it has this reputation as a conservative region, which it is but conservative does not mean slow to change. the south has had more -- has been through more wrenching and radical social change than most other regions of the country than any other region of the country, i would say. one of the radical changes that we're talking about is the switch over from jim crow to the post civil rights era and when
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i was growing up, if you saw an interracial couple walking through the supermarket it would have stopped traffic. todd it's a no non-event. in fact, in some parts of the south, the rate of interracial newlyweds, new marriages exceeds the nothing average not by much, and that statistic should be taken with a grain of salt, because i think southerners get married more than people from other parts of the country but it's still a striking change. michael: we very often think of southerners as a church-going, god-fearing bunch. would you say religion connects people in the south? >> not anymore. when i was growing up and up until like the mid-1970's, there was a kind of southern evangelical religion that made it not matter very much if you were methodist baptist born
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again, non-denominational or whatever. there was a certain course set of evangelical beliefs like the second coming of jesus and the necessity of having a born-again experience. there was a lot of commonnalties between -- among all the denominations. starting in the 1970's and 1980s, there were these ideological schisms that happened notably in the southern baptist convention. nowadays, i would say that religion has become a lot more like politics in the south and politics has become a lot more like religion. michael: i want to talk about politics a little bit because hey, i like talking about politics, but b., the south is such an interesting case study in where american politics has gone. atlanta is considered a post-racial city, strong owed that black leadership.
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the city itself could not be bluer, but the rest of the state is completely red. what influenced the rest of the state? >> there's an awful lot of southerners out there in small towns in georgia that don't consider atlanta to be the south, although it is, but i think that what we're going to see in the south is an increasing bifurcation. you're going to have the red south and the blue south. in fact, if you look at the electoral maps on the county level from the most recent election, you can see it very clearly, there's a brew band in the south that goes all the way up from the sup sip delta and along the mississippi river up through south alabama south georgia, carolinas. it's the black belt, where the old plantation country was and it's where there are heavily minority counties today.
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and then you can also see blue areas around cities like richmond or atlanta or charlotte or memphis or raleigh and i think that that kind of bifurcation is going to continue. michael: it does seem like that is going to or that has and will continue to define the political south, urban and rural that way. really fascinating stuff. the book is called the new mind of the south tracy, thank you for joining us in the war room. up next, new hampshire you can live free or die...you just can't play dodgeball. that story and more....right after the break. real immigration reform? >> with a distinctly satirical point of view. if you believe in state's rights but still believe in the drug war you must be high. >> only on current tv. while your carpets may appear clean. it's scary how much dirt your vacuum can leave behind.
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>> looks like its might be time for new hampshire to reconsider it's motto. the school strict voted to ban dodge ball and other games where children are targets they are concerned about bullying and safety. others say this is just another example of the nanny state. today fox news stepped into great dodgeball debate and offered a possible compromise. but i still can't get past a dodgeball ban in the state with quote "live free or die" on their licenses plate's! so i have a proposal. new hampshire should just change it's motto to "better safe than sorry." that would sum up the new focus on safety. >> we were worried that no one was keeping an eye on the right wing media. don't worry calm down, breath's watching now and he's talking too. >> i love the website rightwingwatch.org. it's a one stop shop for
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everybody case paranoid conservatives do and say. that. >> the same idea of same-sex marriage is the death of capitalism. consider this. capitalism requires consumers produced and purchase goods from the people who are creating those goods. the only relationship in natural law that can produce consumers is the relationship between a man and a woman. >> this argument would make sense. if you legalize gay marriage, gays will get married and gays can't have kids when they get married and then straight people won't have kids because your argument doesn't make sense. what happens to the straight people? do they get in a ship and go to space? i don't understand. do you really have a show or work as an intern on a real show and you just set up your webcam in marry control room.
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>> then there is this. >> what are you even talking about? you are implying that it's shocking to say nfl players dancing after a touchdown. it's called a touchdown dance. they run around and they spike the ball, hopefully on my face to knock me out so i don't have to keep listening to your stupid arguments. i'm done talking now. michael: we live among some crazy people. thanks for joining us. have a great night wonderful weekend, get well, nelson mandela. happy easter, everyone.
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