[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: hello happy monday morning! jacki schechner i'm told the most amazing sexy liberal ever in chicago. >> i'm excited to hear the recap. >> stephanie: it is beyond amazing, however let me tell you the most disturbing thing that was repeated the most is just a guy in creepy tone of voice going -- is jacki schechner here? >> that didn't happen.

>> stephanie: where is she? and i said no, i did not. there was disappointment all around. the mooks here, no. >> would he like a head shot of jacki for his personal use. >> stephanie: can you give me another picture of jacki. the other one is dirty. i did. i brought a bunch of head shots of you. by way of -- as a peace making thing. >> now i'm frightened. >> do you have anymore? >> stephanie: okay. here she is, jacki schechner in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody. it is tax day! and the white house is out with its annual tax receipts. you can go online to whitehouse.gov and select an income estimate. we picked $35,000 for a single parent with one child just to use as an example that tells you how much your money goes toward social security and medicare and a breakdown on your income tax

contribution to show what goes toward defense spending or education and job training. president obama made the promise back in 2011 that he would put the information online and it is the third year in a line he's kept that promise. a new gallup poll out today shows that only 55% of americans think that their federal income tax rate is fair. this is the lowest number since 2001. the highest number in the past decade was 64%. that came back in 2003. right after president bush launched the iraq war and then cut taxes. gallup reports how much people make doesn't affect how they feel about their income tax rate. that instead it is their political affiliation that affects. democrats much more likely to believe they pay a fair share than republicans. >> very much ven has elected a new president. nicholas maduro, the handpicked successor has become an ugly, vicious campaign by an incredibly narrow margin. his opponent is demanding a

recount. the final tally stands at 50.7% to 49.1%. maduro has been acting president since chavez passed away on march 5th. we're back with more show on this monday. stay with us.

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i sound kind of zippy for after a sexy liberal tour show. >> well, what happened? >> stephanie: i'll tell you. check it out. you can e-mail us, executive producer, chris lavoie, voice deity jim ward. this will shock you. drunk entirely too much. i don't really -- had an all-night slumber party with roland and the guy trying to kill me -- >> last night or the night before? >> stephanie: who can remember what, this weekend. >> you found some sexy liberal strange. >> stephanie: absolutely but not in the way you think. you know what? i'm naturally kind of weepy. >> you are. >> stephanie: could be partially hormonal -- >> and steep deprivation. >> and drinking. >> stephanie: one of the most amazing experiences of my life, i'll tell you why in a minute. it ties in with everything we talk about here. i'm starting to tear up already.

however, it was -- let me say thank you chicago. [ applause ] because you know i would walk over a bag of vipers to get to my friends in chicago. >> did you see any bags of viper? >> i got hit with several bags of glass walking up wacker and i just made it. >> you go up wacker to get to the chicago theatre? >> no. >> state or lake. don't go on wacker. >> just fun to say wacker. >> stephanie: it was -- i was able -- because you know i've lived there. we've all lived in chicago. lived off pulaski. >> i loved off sheridan and diversey. >> i was at -- >> pulaski for i'm freezing my [ bleep ] off and i need to get the [ bleep ] out of here. >> except in summer. >> i'm roasting my [ bleep ] off and i need to get the [ bleep ] out of here. >> stephanie: the other thing is there's such a nexus not just the president's hometown, obviously. the gun debate, all of that stuff. north korea, hello. dennis rodman.

[ ding ding ] [ applause ] >> stephanie: i was saying what did you do, dennis rodman? what did you say? you were talking about like freaky [ bleep ] you used to do with carmen electra. what has upset them? that has made the situation worse. there are a lot of retired chicago sports people that might have been better. his airness michael jordan. >> michael jordan not crazy. >> refrigerator perry could have sat on him. something, people. that's the sound of kim jong-un -- being sat on by the refrigerator fairy. >> stephanie: he wasn't in the greatest shape in the '80s. >> now he's a walk-in freezer. >> stephanie: i believe he's selling barbecue sauce if i'm not mistaken. he must have some free time with which he could have done better

diplomatic work than dennis rodman. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] jim, i begin because it all goes with the theme with a guest quote in honor of this weekend. who said if by liberal they mean someone who looks ahead, not behind someone who welcomes new ideas, someone who cares about the welfare of the people, their jobs and civil liberties if that's what you mean by liberals i'm proud to say i'm a liberal. >> william howard taft. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: no. john f. kennedy. he said that. the fine american. [ ♪ battle hymn of republic ♪ ] >> stephanie: because i can't even explain what the sexy liberals are like. it is not just a comedy show. we had a huge, long q&a -- first of all, it is like rocky horror. they assume you're opt phone lines. actually the best lines were from people in the audience, not me. it continues the tradition of the show. >> i remember doing a time warp.

>> stephanie: i'm talking here! oh, you know what the kids did? you know what the kids are doing today. holding lighters up like we used to. >> they're holding their iphones with pictures of lighters. >> stephanie: right. mama was startled at the end of the show. i was like what is going on because you know i don't leave the house. >> pretty soon there will be pictures of people holding pictures of phones. >> when was the last time you went to a concert? was it peter frampton? >> stephanie: perhaps. is there a problem with that? i was there when fraphton came alive. you're jealous. >> the whole concert would be a hologram. completely digital. no human interaction of any kind. >> stephanie: see. i won't need to be there at all. like tupac. i could have passed away. i can still do sexy liberal. all right. my point is that -- and then the stories people tell you at the meet and greets. it really was -- it is not -- i feel like it is not me.

it is them. it is their stories. that's what we said when we started the show. it is not us, it is them. it is the audience that are sexy liberals. what did i just do with that piece of paper? >> i think you put it in the recycling bin. >> stephanie: if it were up my ass, i would know where it is. you guys talk amongst yourselves. [ ♪ battle hymn of republic ♪ ] i got it. thanks for filling for me there. >> no problem. >> stephanie: okay. anyway no, it is -- it is hard to explain how emotional the experiences are. people tell you -- the fact that they share their stories whether it is in q&a or the meet and greet but it was incredible -- it was an incredible night. we had -- somebody had alerted us ahead of time that they had in the q&a wanted to propose a guy named grant and he did. he proposed tovillian in the q&a and she -- to vivian in the q&a and she said yes and we all cried and danced. rocky mountain mike, audra john

and pam by the way. we may have a -- what's it called? a union issue. when i introduced john and pam they rushed the stage. it was hilarious. they hugged me. all of the guys with the headsets are like what happened? i said it's okay. it was a very human moment. >> that's going to be a problem. >> stephanie: please do not tackle john and pam. it was hilarious. it was great. the people that came and it is like all of the issues we talk about, it is all of these people that are affected by them. woman that came that is in tears, she said that her best friend ernie, she was there with him last year and he had pancreatic cancer and he died. she just shared the story, you were the only thing -- you guys were the only thing that made him laugh and kept him going. i'm here for him. there is crying in comedy as it turns out at sexy liberal. there is another guy that said i have a connective tissue

disease, i'm in so much pain. the three hours i listen to you guys the only time i get my mind off that. and this is all of the stuff we talk about trying to help people with, you know, there is a woman that came that said my ex-husband, i don't get child support. i have two developmentally disabled kids. my life kind of sucks. one of them has cerebral palsy. the fact that people come and share their story. >> right. >> stephanie: but anyway, that's such a gift to us. we help them laugh or do something for a couple of minutes. jim, you'll love this. the moment that i thought okay now this has gotten to be a little much is a really handsome black gentleman came up to me. [ ♪ battle hymn of republic ♪ ] he was crying. he said the work you do is every bit as important as what dr. martin luther king did. i was like okay. [screeching sounds] >> stephanie: all right kids. mama lost you but it is time to pick up a history book.

[ laughter ] >> stephanie: i have a dream today. stephanie miller. [farting sounds] >> i don't think martin luther king was well-known for his fart jokes. >> stephanie: i don't think so. congratulations to grant andvillian who are now engaged. he got down on one knee flink with the ring. we raised your glass and everybody lost their [ bleep ] collectively. it was a collective losing of the [ bleep ] and it was beautiful. thank you, everybody. >> then everybody went out for italian beef. >> stephanie: we went out for some sass-age. no we did not. >> you definitely didn't. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: i don't know what you're referring to. >> have willies on the brain. >> stephanie: a lot of pen

penis-related stories. i'm going to cover it. i will be all over it. >> wow really? >> just like katie couric would. >> hmm? >> stephanie: not exactly from what i'm told. i don't know what i meant by that. [ scooby-doo's "huh?" ] >> is this something that's going around in your circles? >> stephanie: no. you know what? don't talk to me anymore. so i'm look by the way at the "chicago tribune" from saturday and this is like sometimes you can't write this stuff. the g.o.p. pledges to change tone to win over voters. party leaders aim to court minority blocks without changing positions on key issues. >> just stop using certain words and everything will be fine. >> stephanie: that seems like a good plan. >> play a tinkling piano behind your awful ideas. >> stephanie: reince priebus. >> reince priebus! >> stephanie: is quoted in here. i thought literally?

reince priebus said the most important change was just showing up in minority communities. really? that's not too patronizing? >> hello. >> stephanie: we're republicans, we're here to help. how are you? he said and i swear it's not about what you say it's how you say it. oh! >> i welcome the moist torso people. >> stephanie: we're just going to go and talk much more slowly and loudly. so they understand. maybe you just didn't hear us. >> we're being incluesive. >> stephanie: this is our minority outreach. we have shown up, haven't we? brown people. >> having a dialogue. >> stephanie: i mean really. what more do you need? seriously, is that not a version of maybe if we speak more slowly and loudly, maybe they won't understand. you just don't get it. yes, they get it! we all get it. so, that's that.

and they had it out here. they had it in hollywood. their new changing of the g.o.p. >> [ whatever! ] >> stephanie: new incluesiveness something. >> that's why there was a stench over the city. >> stephanie: lots to get to today. guns north korea. 18 minutes after the hour. we roll along on "the stephanie miller show". >> announcer: call the political party line now. 1-800-steph-12.

(vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anything. ♪ i think i maybe think too much ♪ ♪ i think this may be it for us ♪ ♪ one last kiss ♪

♪ you think i'm serious ♪ ♪ i think you're full of it ♪ ♪ my head is spinning ♪ ♪ only one last kiss ♪ >> stephanie: 22 minutes after the hour. eric boehlert of media matters at the top of the hour, 1-800-steph-12 the phone until toll free. robert in illinois, you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> awesome show saturday night. we were laughing our buts off. >> stephanie: we apologize for the lack of your butts now. hard to go through life without an ass. that will be our next sexy liberal cause. >> caller: my husband asked you about singing yo-yo with donnie osmond. he was so thrilled and nervous to sing with you, that he forgot the lyrics which is odd because he's always singing it around the house. >> stephanie: we sang yo-yo together because he like me is a deeper individual that does not stop at one bad apple or go away

little girl. if you're a donnie osmond lover you are to yo-yo right? >> i have to ask you though because you question then if it was possible for a man to be an osmond fan and have a wife and i wanted to first of all reassure you he does have a wife. i wonder if there is a deeper situation. he doesn't have show tunes but an awful lot of barry manilow. most recent cd purchase was neil sedaka. >> stephanie: that is a strong heterosexual male. to sing yo-yo at the chicago theatre. i think his manliness is probably even less in question now. >> caller: okay. i got a little nervous. i just wanted to make sure i didn't have anything in common with michele bachmann. >> stephanie: i did not smell a whiff of marcus. >> little zz-top just to balance it off. >> stephanie: he did fine. for amateurs. i thought we rocked. thank you jules.

say hi to your handsome and incredibly straight husband. >> caller: thanks, stephanie. >> stephanie: that doesn't happen every day. he remembered enough of the lyrics of yo-yo that it was -- a little bit disturbing. >> i don't remember the song at all. >> stephanie: just like a yo-yo. now you've done it. ♪ burnin' burnin', love keeps a burnin' ♪ >> burning yo-yos? >> stephanie: maybe i'm confusing two songs. >> i think are you. >> stephanie: hello richard in chicago. >> caller: you were so beautiful saturday night. >> stephanie: oh richard please, go on. >> caller: i was in the balcony the crowd that almost went over the rail when you announced road flare mary was there. >> stephanie: it turned out to be a deep disappointment she did not make it. >> caller: yes, it was. nearly an avalanche of people. >> stephanie: by the way i look best from the balcony. that's about the distance -- >> caller: no, no, no. >> stop it!

>> caller: i can see cleveland from up there. >> stephanie: i wore my cleveland clinic hat that someone gave me that works there. >> caller: it was just great. we had a wonderful dinner before with rocky mountain mike and kenny pick and tom and peggy and everybody was there. >> stephanie: sexy liberal family. >> caller: 18 or 20 people from the chat room at one table. >> stephanie: we laugh, we fight, we cry. >> caller: i wanted to get down there. i had my little friend ricky with me. i wanted him to say something while we were there. all of the kids saying nice things. i thought by the time i got down there, you would be done with questions. i thought you could say what he wanted to say. >> stephanie: okay. >> stephanie: you're the ventriloquist donald duck guy. >> caller: did you get the audio books i sent back to you? >> stephanie: i did.

great to see you. [ applause ] >> stephanie: with yo-yo, we ran short on time. we didn't have time for that. okay. all right then. stephanie in indiana on minority outreach and the republican party and how that's going for them. hello, stephanie in indiana. >> caller: how you doing? >> stephanie: good. >> caller: it's not doing so good. it is amazing to me how they're able to capture the low income group here and really convince them that they are on their side. that the things that they're doing is for their benefit. and all of it really isn't. and we're a town of millionaires surrounded by counties of poor people and it is just amazing how, in a town with so many millionaires, we can't even get an effective bus line to get poor people to jobs. >> stephanie: stephanie how offensive is it to say all we need to do is show up. no, that's not the point of government. you need to actually do

something. >> right. >> stephanie: to help people. oi. it was quite a shot -- she was supposed to be the headliner. no encasa, shockingly enough. [ crickets chirping ] >> stephanie: i introduced her and everything and it was tumbleweeds and crickets. presumably because there were blacks there. had driven their escalades there full of groceries so my son can't get food stamps. >> you know what? i'm not even here. >> stephanie: i was hoping for a live version of her favorite game show, show me a poor jew and alas, it was sadly lacking. okay. megan in chicago you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi meg. >> caller: good morning. >> stephanie: good morning. >> caller: i wanted to tell you because i'm old, i was kicking a little old school at your show. i did not use my phone. i pulled out a real lighter. much to the chagrin of the security detail that was sitting next to me. [ laughter ] thank you for a great show.

it was fun. we had a blast. got to meet rocky mountain mike. what a nice guy. >> stephanie: megan, thank you for your real lighter because as i was explaining, ma a was befuddled and didn't know what people were holding up. i was like what? >> caller: it was a conscious choice. >> stephanie: i appreciate you kickin' it old school. i need to send fruit baskets to the security guys. i think they all had nervous breakdowns. >> send pro flowers. >> caller: thanks for the autograph for my daughter. >> stephanie: you're welcome meg. >> did you really just use the phrase kickin' it old school. >> stephanie: she was kickin' it old school with a real lighter. i need to send security guys some pro flowers. literally, at one point he looked like someone shot him in the neck with a tranquilizer dart. don't worry. let them rush the stage. it's fine. 29 minutes after the hour.

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>> i just want you to know you don't have to worry about me. i won't make any noise and and or eat your food and i'll tell you you're pretty every morning. >> was that roland or david bender? >> stephanie: that was travis. right. he house and dog sits for me when i travel. the dogs like him much, much better than me. they're severely disappointed when i come home. >> his last name is bone. >> stephanie: who gets the t-bone this weekend.

very very excited. economy home and they're like eh. 1-800-steph-12 the phone until toll free from anywhere. alex is 12 and was at sexy liberal. that's a little on the bubble. hello, alex. >> hi. >> stephanie: are you traumatized? >> caller: no. >> stephanie: did you have fun? >> caller: yes. >> he sounds surly. >> stephanie: well, you know, you got up at the q&a i questioned your parents just a skosh. >> caller: it was fine. >> stephanie: okay. >> caller: it was cool to see you in person and talk to you on the q&a. >> stephanie: exactly. well, you know what? how long have you been listening to the show? >> caller: five years. >> stephanie: your parents are really bad parents. good luck. i love you. >> caller: i want to go for another question. ask two other things.

>> stephanie: your parents also are not good at purchasing phones alex. that's the other thing i want to say. as much as i love you and them. it was great to see you saturday. tell your parents hi. >> caller: thank you. >> stephanie: is it me? i can never tell if it is my hearing. >> surly mumbly like a 12-year-old. >> stephanie: calling from tel aviv. >> tel aviv. >> stephanie: that awkward phase. >> sure. >> stephanie: right. >> feeling your way into the world. >> stephanie: you're growing hair. it is exhausting. mike in utah, you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> eww. >> caller: how are you doing today? i like the show. i'm mexican and i live in utah. and we've been -- you know, resorted to be second class citizens. we don't have any rights. they can pull us over and everything and do whatever they want to us. and now they want to see our

documentation even though we're americans but gun doesn't have to show any documentation. >> stephanie: mike, that's a really good point. that's exactly it. you need to have some sort of documentation if you're brown in certain states. >> register latinos not guns. >> stephanie: we're going to get to guns in a second. some disturbing article. hello, jerry in wisconsin. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi jerry. >> hi, stephanie. thanks for taking the call. please bear with me. a little longer than most. i noticed what hasn't been brought into with all of the pro guns claiming to be patriots and us shredding the constitution and the second amendment, if a very pertinent point is that under the second amendment, there was literally a conscription, the ability to draft any of the militia where people from 13 to 40 had to

supply specified types of weapons. they were required to do this at their own expense. and other items of gear. ammunition amounts. they were subject to military law and penalties, including death for desertion or treasonist acts. and this happened. also in all of this, do you really think that no records were compiled? >> stephanie: right. thank you. >> caller: all of this was complied to. now you have these people screaming all about having like -- moaning about records and crying that it is a violation of our constitutional right to comply with regulations on gun control that are less than every citizen always complies to get a driver's license and qualify for that. >> it is right there in the amendment. all regulated militia.

obviously regulations are involved. >> stephanie: yes. hello. >> it's right there! >> stephanie: it's in the works. interesting, this whole debate. we talked about this saturday. chicago, obviously racked by gun violence. including -- we played that clip last week of michelle obama talking about the -- >> thank you indiana. >> stephanie: the high school girl. i saw her live at the inauguration. was shot and killed. since then. again, they use that as the argument. oh, they have tight gun laws. you can get a gun two seconds from -- chicago. >> step over the border from chicago to indiana to get guns. >> stephanie: it is not a good case study. this was, i think the first time ever -- i don't know if you heard any of this. francine wheeler is a newtown mom. she gave the president's weekly address. here was some of it. >> david and i have two sons. our younger son ben age 6 was murdered in his first grade

classroom on december 14th, exactly four months ago this weekend. >> stephanie: it is just -- you know, what can you say? >> you have these jerks out there with ar-15s, loaded ar-15s, very guns use inned newtown, a show of force. who are you planning to shoot? >> stephanie: one of the grieving moms? >> kill more kids now? >> stephanie: the piece is disturbing. i think it is part of this whole debate we're having about the president's budget and social security and how you negotiate and how you don't. it is in salon. it is called how the nra got what it wanted. you know, again we quoted tomasky. there is an interesting piece about the president's budget by ronald brounstein and others. i think there's room for debate on a lot of the subjects. it is just the way you negotiate. because we all think wayne lapierrre is crazy. salon makes a good point in this

piece. first of all, he only gets paid a million dollars a year. he doesn't care if he looks crazy. it shifts the debate to the right so the compromise position is farther to the right. that's what i get disturbed about as well. blake writes in salon in the immediate aftermath of newtown the country seemed serious about gun safety reform. we're going to get something done. what we get done, because we keep saying who does the nra speak for? people that sell guns, that's it. not even their own members. they've succeeded at least for now in moving the debate to the right. after a week of silence, after the tragedy, remember the crazy press conference that wayne lapierrre gave that inspired laughter and ridicule by sponsoring zero reforms to guns. history may show it to be a political maneuver by shifting the conversation far to the right. he shifted right word, what constituted compromise in the gun discussion. ultimately against all odds, his organization would emerge.

once it had won publicly proposed itself. we played that audio of back in whenever wayne lapierrre is on record as being for background checks. i think what their point is this is by design. it is by design to seem completely unreasonable. what reasonable becomes is over here rather than -- anyway, they say in other words wayne lapierrre who may be the one who gets the last laugh. gun owners, even members of the nra are willing to support certain restrictions. these aren't the opinions that matter. if the manufacturers, that's who really runs the nra will stand to lose massive profits. logic dictates averting said measure will be fought with brute force. assault weapon bans in magazines because they'll lose money. background checks, particularly the watered down version may be an inconvenience and cost companies questionable customers who get barred from legally buying weapons won't shut down production of anything. when you listen, what's the contrast when you hear francine wheeler, when you hear a real mom and you realize how cynical

this is. and just about money. it really is. they don't care. how to move the goalpost of your position seems more mainstream. that's what this is about. by proposing something further to the extreme. the initial desire and policy appears more like a compromise. that's exactly right. salon finishes by saying there are leaders and groups in washington that went through negotiations by offering concessions up-front. a lot of people accuse the president of this. and approach the phrase among beltway wisemen for being reasonable. it guarantees any deal they get is at best a half a loaf. wayne lapierrre didn't get to be called reasonable but considering the circumstances he won his organization a pretty sweet deal. which outcome would you prefer? better to be strong and wrong than appear weak. i don't know. i think that is different. you can't compare what he does to what the president of the united states has to do. if you read any article, i don't

know. i honestly don't know how you govern this country with this current makeup of republicans. the people that criticize them, i get it. i agree on social security. how would we do better? that's what's frustrating. look at guns. huff po did this -- the polling. seriously, when you look at -- as the president joked the other day, how do you get americans to agree on -- 90% of us to agree on anything? on anything? and yet this is the power of the nra or how they've at least shifted the debate for now. anyway -- >> let's just change the verbiage. so it sounds nicer. let's not call them concentration camps, how about day spas. yes, that's much better. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: that's pretty far into a show for the first hitler reference. christine in cleveland you're on the "the stephanie miller show" on the gun debate. hey, christine. >> caller: good morning. >> stephanie: good morning.

>> caller: just a little comment about one of the other networks. aka, cnn. she was on this weekend with boris epstein and aaron and perry and they were talking about the sandy hook families. but they were talking all around how quote-unquote the democrats and the president are using, you know, this issue as exploitive, using the kids as exploitation. >> stephanie: yes, mentioning that 20 6-year-olds got massacred is politicizing it. >> maria never jumped in to say the right, although they probably wouldn't say the right about the g.o.p. would be talking about how -- the democrats are exploiting this. she never jumped in. it was a perfect opportunity. obviously she's not hardball.

>> stephanie: eric boehlert talks to us in a few minutes about this. when you get to the long last have they no sense of decency no, they don't. what they did to the 9-11 widows, some of the things ann coulter said, they're already doing it with the newtown families. >> caller: real quick fyi did you know one of your republican representatives out there in california moonlights for the hugh hewitt show? >> stephanie: i did not know that. >> caller: i happened to flip on one of the talk radio stations in the car in cleveland and there was john campbell, moonlighting for hugh hewitt. like wow. what a great way to earn your side money. >> stephanie: i'm sure an entertainment delight. all right. i'm sure not to be missed. 46 minutes after the hour. we continue with more on the gun debate on "the stephanie miller show". >> it's fun for ages 8 to 80. join us! >> announcer: it's "the

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♪ ♪ she's just a girl ♪ ♪ the girl you want ♪ ♪ stephi ♪ ♪ she's just a girl ♪ ♪ the girl you want ♪ >> stephanie: coming up later in the show, in our very first edition of oh no, he didn't, justin bieber visited the 'frank house and said he would like to think she would have been a belieber. >> oh, god!

[ wah wah ] >> stephanie: i'm sure that's the important thing there. 1-800-steph-12 the phone until toll free from anywhere. paul in illinois. you're on "the stephanie miller show." can i just say we're out here in hollywood and can be really self-involved. >> caller: hello, stephanie. give the biebs some credit. he thought anne frank was a great girl. >> stephanie: well okay. >> everybody said she was a horrible girl. >> caller: that was part of his signing the guest book at the anne frank house. thank you for being on the air. i love you very much. gratifying to turn you on so to speak, turn to your station after an npr interview with linda evans about the '80s. >> wow. >> caller: yeah, hard-hitting stuff. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: not that we don't all revere the '80s. go ahead.

>> caller: i saw that same quote by ran -- by rancid priebus in "the tribune." it was not only patronizing but 100% wrong. what planet is he living on? did he completely ignore the historically idiotic speech that rand paul gave at howard university? he guaranteed the african-american vote for the democratic party for another 200 years. >> stephanie: thanks rand. >> caller: i'm surprised he didn't say wow my ancestors own some of your ancestors. so, showing up is a bad idea if you're a republican. >> stephanie: if you're rand paul perhaps. >> another 200 years of voting rights. what country are you thinking of? >> stephanie: okay. tim in illinois is an nra member. hi tim. >> caller: good morning. >> stephanie: good morning. >> caller: the president said put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig. gun control has been turned into

gun safety legislation. i've heard that on bill press and on your show and probably start hearing it on msnbc and everywhere else. how do you negotiate with people that want total gun bans? how do you do that? >> well, i guess you would say shoot them. >> caller: come on now that's ridiculous. >> jim! >> stephanie: he's engaging in hyperbole to prove a point. >> caller: i would like to debate the issue and say cut background checks, we have that in illinois. it doesn't hurt anybody's ability to own a gun. >> stephanie: tim again you're starting with a straw man. jim went immediately to hyperbole. who wants to take away all of the guns? nobody does. >> caller: i would have to say feinstein said mr. and mrs. america turn in your guns. i would say the person buying the assault weapons ban is -- >> that's not realistic.

she understands that's not realistic. >> why is it not realistic? i know anti-gun people that want total gun bans. that's it. that's what -- >> that's not what is being proposed. >> stephanie: do you think any american believes that is going to happen or it is possible? >> caller: yes. >> stephanie: you're wrong. >> wrong. >> caller: i'm happy that i'm wrong but i'm just saying when you say wayne lapierrre is crazy. >> stephanie: you're saying the people we're compromising because what we really want to do is take away all of the guns. yours is the compromise position where we are now a watered down background check and that's it? i'm a gun grabber yes. >> but we all understand that's not realistic and it is not gonna happen. >> stephanie: we understand i'm a delusional happy clappy -- >> having federal laws though so you can't go to indiana and get a gun and drag it across the border, that is something that can be done. >> caller: i'm totally okay with

that. absolutely 100%. i'm one of those people in the nra that says look, why can't we do this? why can't this happen and this happen. i'm serious i am. >> so we agree. >> caller: but when i'm hearing gun control has been turned into gun safety legislation. that's ridiculous. it is still gun safety -- gun control. >> you can't shoot 100 people at a time. >> caller: the logic of -- once again, i agree with -- when i think of a high-capacity magazine, i think a magazine that the gun is not designed for because i've heard on your show -- i've heard stephanie say i don't understand guns. why would you take a gun designed with a 15 magazine, that's designed for a 15-round mag gleefn and say that gun now has to have ten rounds. if you can trust me with ten rounds in a handgun why shouldn't you trust me with 15

they're not designed to put 100 round magazine. a 50 had-round magazines. magazines past the butt of the gun. there are some sensible laws. i have to pat my opposition on the back. there are sensible things people have put on guns. >> stephanie: tim, my point is the fact that i don't know guns very well. general mcchrystal does, doesn't he? do i need to understand every in and out of every gun to understand military assault weapons, weapons of war don't belong on the streets as general mcchrystal said? >> caller: that's a very good point, well taken. i agree. there's a difference between ar-15, semi-automatic. >> stephanie: it doesn't matter. you can't use it against me i'm not general mcchrystal. that's all i'm saying. i think common sense people -- why do you think the majority of people think military assault

weapons don't belong on the streets or the high-capacity magazines. we're not close to being able to get that done, are we? >> there are plenty of people from the military. general mcchrystal is a military man. i'm sure there are generals in the army, marine corps that believe that people should have weapons that they want to have. you can bring your side. it is like when you have lawyers in a lawsuit you bring experts into the court that says that person -- other attorneys say he can run the 100 yard in 15 seconds. >> stephanie: of course there are generals that disagree with him. okay. what can you say? this is what we were talking about saturday night. people just seem to have all of these paranoid zero dark thirty fantasies, apparently everyone is being rushed by 100 hoggs -- hogs a day. 58 minutes after the hour. right back with eric boehlert

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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: good morning, tv land. hour number two. jacki schechner, you know when you get in an emotional gun debate with someone, you can always count on a texas republican congressman to inject a little bit of reason into the debate. >> okay. >> stephanie: for instance, steve stockman, he has a bumper sticker which you may buy -- >> okay. >> stephanie: that says if babies had guns, they wouldn't be aborted. >> i saw that. because nothing stops a guy with

a gun like a baby with a gun. >> show the transvaginal probe and a handgun in there. >> stephanie: so the fetus has a chance to shoot its way out. >> is he a federal congressman or a state legislator? >> stephanie: texas congressman. >> so he's been elected to our federal government. >> stephanie: yep. he once said the best thing about the earth is if you poke holes in it, oil and gas comes out. >> herp derp. >> seriously? >> i can't find a stronger argument for voter turnout. >> stephanie: there you go. >> go vote, people, please. >> stephanie: jacki schechner in the news center. >> good morning, everyone. fascinating case before the supreme court today. whether or not a company can own a patent on human genes. it is a company called myriad genetic that holds patent on brca1 and brca2. women who have a mutation have an 85% risk of getting breast cancer and a 50% risk of getting

ovarian cancer. because it opens the patents on the genes myriad is the only company that can perform the tests related to them. the federal government has granted some 3,000 patents like this over the last 30 years. myriad would argue without the proprietary guarantee of the patents, a company would be less inclined to spend billions necessary to do the genetic research in the first place. historically, u.s. patent law protects inventions, not proddings of nature. the supreme court is going to have to decide whether myriad was invented something new or is patenting something already in existence. myriad says even though the genes exist in the body's naturally, it is removing them that makes them useful. president george w. bush and former first lady lora bush are first-time grandparents. their daughter, jenna bush hager gave birth to a baby girl named mila. president bush has prepared three new paintings for mila in an exclusive interview with the "dallas morning news," he knows

people were surprised by his new artistic hobby. he says his work, people are is surprised he can even read. we're back with more show after the break. stay with us. alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.

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everybody. what an amazing experience it was. thank you, all. all right. we've been having -- we obviously talked saturday night about guns. chicago has been racked by gun violence like a lot of places. and we were saying this is unprecedented, newtown parent gave the president's address and eric boehlert is going to tell you in a minute what the reaction on the right has been to this. but this is francine wheeler giving the president's weekly address saturday. >> we have to convince the senate to come together and pass common sense gun responsibility reforms. that will make our communities safer. and prevent more tragedies like the one we never thought would happen to us. >> stephanie: the fact that she was able to even keep it together enough to talk about this stuff and here's one more. >> please help us do something before our tragedy becomes your tragedy. >> stephanie: yeah. and i know susan collins for one, met with the newtown families and said she will support the background check.

>> hopefully that will bring more republicans over. >> stephanie: exactly. all right. eric boehlert. eric boehlert from media matters for america doing the lord's work as usual. >> announcer: eric boehlert. ♪ hurts so good ♪ ♪ come on, baby, hurts so good ♪ >> stephanie: let's dive into the right-wing world. >> i don't know what that means. >> stephanie: eric boehlert from media matters who we love. good morning, eric boehlert. >> good morning. >> stephanie: good morning. we were talking last hour about -- we all recall what some on the right did to the 9-11 -- in terms of will they stop at nothing, to make a political point. i guess the answer is no, they won't. go ahead. >> these are sort of desperate times. the larger scheme of things, background check and some of the things we're talking about -- you could argue are rather minimal. but the gun -- you know, the gun lobby hasn't seen any

legislation -- national legislation in almost 20 years. so they are desperate and the headline we have at media matters right now on the front page, fox tells newtown families to shut up about stronger gun laws. they -- fox and limbaugh who called them human shields last week saying they're being used by democrats in the white house. inhofe last week, what did he say? they're irrelevant to this debate. when it comes down to, you know, the finish line in sight and there's pending national gun legislation and they see sort of a tide moving, absolutely. they will attack. they will lash out at these families who lost their kids in a gun massacre. no question. it is inevitable. >> stephanie: when someone is talking about being affected by the second amendment apparently they lose their first amendment according to fox news, right? >> right. then they become shields shields. >> shut the hell up if it is something i disagree with.

>> you mention the 9-11 families because that's important. if people forget it but in -- winter of 2011, winter of 2012, the white house tried to kill the 9-11 investigation. dick cheney was lobbying actively, trying to get any in-depth investigation into what happened killed. it was the 9-11 families that said no. you're not going to do that. >> he actually succeeded being that he got it so that george w. bush didn't say anything and cheney didn't have to answer any questions and they couldn't write anything down. >> right but they wanted nothing. no congressional investigation. they didn't want to give them money and any of that. and then here we are, you know. with the g.o.p. basically saying in the wake of the gun massacre, no. we're not going to pass any -- we're not even going to debate it right? what does it look like? it looked like there would be a

filibuster. they weren't going to allow a debate and here the newtown family said no. your g.o.p. is not going to block this like they tried to block the 9-11 investigation. >> stephanie: your tweet said it perfectly. numbingly predictable. limbaugh lashing out at parents who lost children in the newtown massacre. this is the same play. if we want a debate -- to debate women's health issues and sandra fluke wants to testify about it, she's obviously what? >> right. when ordinary americans come forward and make sensible and at times emotional arguments the conservatives understand, is resonating with people on a logical and emotional level. those people need to be attacked. those people need to be undercut. and if not directly attacked, to be portrayed as dupes and in over their head and not understanding what's -- how gun laws really work in america. explain that to those newtown

families please. that's the condescending -- >> stephanie: eric, that's the problem is what happened in newtown is too easily understood by any normal human being. >> that's right. background checks had what? i've never seen polling like this. there have been at least five major polls since january. every one of them, 91, 92, 93%. it is like 80% of republicans 80% of gun owners and again a week ago, it looked like republicans weren't going to allow debate. that is the definition of radical. that's the definition of obstruction. >> stephanie: we just had an nra caller who said you don't understand guns very well. do i need to know i don't want to live in america where 20 6-year-olds get slaughtered at point-blank range by an assault weapon? that's, i think the problem. they're trying to obscure what is very easily understandable

issue for americans. >> the other talking point you hear a lot is well, this background check wouldn't have stopped the sandy hook massacre. it wouldn't have stopped aurora. look, you know, the point is 35,000 americans i don't every year from gunshot wounds. 17,000 americans kill themselves every year with a gun. the point is to reduce the number of people who are dying every year from guns. this is not a gun massacre only legislation. it is an attempt to curb this epidemic in america. >> i think the number in japan was seven. >> stephanie: seven gun deaths. your tweet too. no joke. go check ari fleisher timeline complaint about frenzy of coverage regarding newtown massacre. that's not a big story. >> he was trying to tie this into the bias surrounding the

trial in philadelphia saying oh, there was a frenzy after trayvon martin a frenzy after newtown. why isn't there a frenzy now? you're complaining there was too much coverage when 20 elementary school kids were massacred. he tweeted me back. that's not what i meant. that frenzy was fine. why isn't there a frenzy in philadelphia. this is what's great about twitter. you can have a conversation. call people out like ari fleisher out. then someone else replied frenzy connotes thoughtless action. why did you call it a frenzy? so he was suggesting frenzy is a good thing. come on. incredibly insensitive way for him trying to make a point that, you know, why do we have all of this coverage after 20 kids were murdered in connecticut and yet quote-unquote no coverage in philadelphia. i don't know if we have time, are we going to talk about the claim of liberal bias at the philadelphia trial? >> stephanie: yeah yeah.

>> fleisher could be translated at butcher. >> stephanie: thanks jim. by the way, another tweet of yours this weekend obama donated $150,000. i'm sure michelle malkin will find a reason to hate this. >> yes, i did. they attacked him because such a mess of charitable donations lowered his tax rate to 18% and so a lot of the right wing folks went after him. how can obama only being paying 18%. i want to have his account. well, sean hannity or whoever else if you donate 25% of your gross adjusted income, you too could lower your tax rate. i also tweeted rush limbaugh donated the same amount, he would have to donate $12 million to charity. does anyone think he would do that? >> stephanie: he's writing the check as we speak, i'm sure. >> in invisible ink. >> stephanie: here is a little

dollop of right-wing world for you. bill o'reilly and rick santorum on marriage equality. >> would we be discouraging heterosexual marriage by allowing gay marriage? >> no. >> i believe we would. saying that marriage isn't about children. isn't about having children or raising children. when we say that, then, of course the consequence are you'll have less children. it is already happening in america. before this whole gay marriage debate we really have seen a change in what marriage is in america. >> stephanie: right. human beings will go extinct clearly. if we allow marriage equality. >> statistically, he's right about the bit rate and statistically right, i think we've seen the united states, people waiting to get married later. this idea they're sitting around the kitchen table, i don't want to have kids because gays are getting married. let's save more money because

gays are getting married. >> i won't buy a new car. gays are getting married! [ laughter ] >> stephanie: it is just such a -- as happened out here in the prop 8 trial, it is an easily shot down argument because of infertile couples or hello, this is america. what if you don't want to have kids? there are couples who don't want to have kids. >> who think that way? people aren't going to get married because -- let's not get married. i love you. i want to spend my life with you but let's not get married because gays can get married. who thinks like that? >> stephanie: men need all of the excuses they can get to get out of it. good! there's another one. all right. eric great stuff as always. we'll talk to you next week. there he goes, eric boehlert media matters. you know what? you've got yourself a weekend with his tweets. 18 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> ooh, i like her!

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>> stephanie: i didn't do that. ruby in missouri on the gun debate. hey, ruby. >> caller: hi, how you doing?

>> they don't know the lord. they can't. you want to take lives but jesus said this and jesus says that but yet all they want to do is say you can't take my gun. it is not a right to have a gun. >> caller: jesus wouldn't shoot anyone. the first thing they want to say is this is my right. it is not the right to take the life of someone else. no one has that right. >> stephanie: nobody makes it easier than we do here in america to take a life, right? >> caller: right. >> stephanie: that's the problem. >> caller: that is wrong. i was one of those people could stand there and tell the mother or the dad that oh, it is okay. i have a gun. if someone takes mire son or daughter you think they would have the same feeling? no. they would be just as hurt and angry as those people who lost their children. >> stephanie: exactly. of

>> stephanie: this newtown mom saying does it have to happen to you? does it have to hit every single family in america? >> i hope not. >> it should be a privilege like driving where you have to prove that you are up to the responsibilities. of handling that. the technology without murdering a bunch of people. >> stephanie: jim and i have a very -- our background check would take very little time. it would simply go like this. would you like a military assault weapon? >> yeah. >> stephanie: well, then, you cannot have one. >> oh. [ applause ] >> that sounds reasonable. >> stephanie: if you want one that's reason enough. >> i can understand if you're living in a rural area where there's no police and you protect your property. you want to have more than three rounds to defend your house. but up to a point that makes sense. >> stephanie: yeah.

>> again, you have to show that you are capable of -- that you can handle the responsibility. >> stephanie: jessica in illinois, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi jess. >> caller: yes, forgive me i'm nervous. hi steph hi, mooks. >> caller: i'm basically connecticut on how out of control -- nothing can get done. my father back in 1997 was arrested by atf, the feds and the marine corps. basically, he sold 40 pounds of c4 and 250 yards of deck cord. they pulled out -- they got rid of all of his weapons. he used to have almost 100 guns. they basically -- he was able to keep all of the antiques and to this day after he was sentenced to 30 years in leavenworth he only served nine. he got out in 2009. now, he has since -- was able to get a job with gun dealership down in florida running around

and making money selling guns and gunsmithing and what not. he actually had purchased from them an m4 and an ar-15. had it shipped to a west virginia dealership to give to his brother who was going to then hand it to him and let him carry it to massachusetts. he was even able to give my brother a 45 but my brother handed it back when he asked for paperwork and my father, of course had none. just this past year, the reason -- the only thing we could do to stop it is my brother was able to get a restraining order in massachusetts. >> stephanie: wow. >> caller: now, that's the only thing that shows up on a background check. >> what was he planning to do with all of the c4? >> stephanie: what was he planning to do with all of the c4 out of curiosity? >> he told me over the phone -- see, i was investigated by ncis by 18 months because i was in the navy with top clearance at the time. he told me he was going to be working with the c.i.a. and training people and it turned

out he was dealing with government just not the c.i.a. he was a dumb ass basically. >> daddy was a dumb ass. >> stephanie: he was an undercover dumb ass. >> caller: i'm actually disowned by that side of the family. but i was the redhead in the pink wheelchair four rows behind the stage. my husband is deploying next month again. fourth deployment in a row. he loved it. we loved it. and he's going to be listening to you on the steph podcast over there in kuwait. >> stephanie: thank him for his service. i do remember you. thanks for that story jess. i appreciate it. >> caller: it is out of control. we need to do something. >> you have to give me all of that c4 because i have a herp derp security clearance. >> stephanie: dad, tell me the story about the c4 again. you know what? i'm going to call -- you're in the c.i.a.? i don't think so. >> i'll settle for c3.

>> she called her dad a dumb ass. >> stephanie: clearly that dad. all right. senator joe manchin, we were talking about susan collins esmeralda will vote to expand background checks. like magic. she's going to sport bill proposed by senators pat toomey of pennsylvania and joe manchin of what you call it, west virginia. joe manchin. >> for her to take the courageous stand in the state of maine that has a tremendous amount of gun ownership like west virginia, i think it will make my other friends and colleagues both on the democrat and republican side take a little pause. >> stephanie: collins was third republican to support the effort. and she said as we were mentioning earlier her public support came out days after she met with the families of the newtown shootings. so you know, i guess we'll take it. whatever little progress we can get. greg in indiana you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi greg. >> caller: hey, yeah. first of all, i want to say i'm

a big fan stephanie mooks. and jacki who i'm missing in the round about. i just want to say if anybody ever tells you that a semi automatic rifle isn't an assault rifle, just ignore them. >> stephanie: okay, i will. >> because if you're within, you know, maybe 25, 30 feet, sure, you could probably be using an automatic. outside of 25 feet, you would rather have a semi-automatic. so just ignore them. >> stephanie: greg, i do. here is a little tip for you guys. when i'm listening and people start doing their gun nut talking lists, i need more milk bones. i just la la la. >> need more c4. >> stephanie: remember to buy more c4 later. i'm sorry, what were you saying? back to your blah blah blah blah. right back on "the stephanie miller show."

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biggest rock star cheer. i was disappointed that road flare mary couldn't come. she sent a note with flowers. >> a bunch of escalades. couldn't get around them. >> at the moment i'm staying in oklahoma for awhile. >> stephanie: oh yeah? >> caller: i thought with the gun thing, i heard this documentary, actually it was an interview on fresh air about the history of the glock. and it was really good. so i thought, you know, i'm going to be an open-minded happy clappy liberal i went to the local pawnshop here to go check out the guns. and i was walk up to the count errand there was one guy a customer and i didn't catch the first part of the conversation but all i heard was well, i shot him in the back. >> wow. >> caller: that's enough. >> stephanie: you're like i don't need to hear anything more about this conversation. >> exactly. ♪ oklahoma with the bullets sweeping down the plains ♪ >> stephanie: be careful out there. love you.

oh, boy. that's something -- not your business. whatever the rest of the story is. >> nothing good can come of that. >> stephanie: marco. >> rubio. >> stephanie: on the gun debate. >> highly ineffective in terms of accomplishing the following goal that is to protect the right of law-abiding citizens to possess weapon and they're ineffective at keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous criminals. >> stephanie: you're just wrong. >> laws are pointless because people will ignore them. >> wrong. >> stephanie: exactly. you are wronger than eleanor clift. >> that's hard to do. >> stephanie: eleanor clift. she must have her own version of ptsd. she hears the word wrong. wrong! >> stephanie: okay. yes, is this gawker? it really is kind of hilarious. i'm sorry, huff post did a thing about how popular background checks are because the president

joked last week, how often do 90% of americans agree on anything? he said he was saying nine in ten, that's about 90%. agree that somebody purchasing a firearm needs a background check. here are the fun facts "huffington post" set out. ice cream one thing, ice cream garnered more approval than background checks. more americans it turns out support universal background checks than like apple pie. baseball. kittens. and child labor laws. how about that. only 81% have a favorable rating of apple pie. we're becoming a country of communists. >> apple pie not my favorite. >> stephanie: me neither. >> wow! i don't know you anymore! >> stephanie: i've betrayed you, america. clearly, that's why i hate america. i adopt like apple pie. blueberry, much better. i really like -- you know, pumpkin, custard. you know.

>> lemon meringue? >> no. >> not mincemeat. >> i do like a good strawberry pie. >> stephanie: who cares. 76% -- all right. just kidding. 76% of americans favor kittens. they go on to say we don't have the numbers on this. we suspect more people may be allergic to kittens than to background checks and kittens have a tendency to grow up to be cats which they have found to be a divisive issue. don't i know it. [ applause ] >> divisive issue. >> stephanie: been a dwiefs issue for me but that's another story. let's go to joe in pennsylvania. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi joe. >> hey steph. there's one angle that hasn't been exploited against the nra yet. and that is they train people. and there's two angles on that. one is local governments pay the

nra to train the cops. they get certified. all sorts of certification. our tax dollars are essentially going to the nra to support them and education or indoctrination programs whatever way you want to go with that. the other angle on this is when they went through the effects of adam lanza, they found he was certified by the nra. now, at what point do the sandy hook parents go after the nra and sue the nra for basically willful negligence. if you're a brain surgeon you don't go out and train anybody to use a scalpel and say oh, go play with this with your kids. you need to have some level of responsibility for the information you're imparting to people. i'm curious. i've tried to do this on social media. i haven't been able to get anywhere with it. but there's got to be an angle to go after the nra as far as --

their responsibility as far as the information they're pushing out there and the tax dollars that go to them. do you have any thoughts on this? >> stephanie: yeah i mean, look, i was saying that this salon piece that we should read about, wayne lapierrre sort of crazy like a fox because he's moved the debate to the right on that. but i think the thing that bothed me most particularly after listening to the newtown mom give the president's address. they don't think of it in terms of human beepings. it is like the nra got on tape, we need to wait for the newtown effect. you're talking about human beings people's 6-year-olds. they look at it like it is just pure politics. how do we move this debate to the right? how do we get as little -- >> how do we compromise on as little as possible. the only thing he proposed was putting more guns in schools because that moved the debate away -- literally now the compromise of this watered down background check. this piece in the "new york

times," putting armed guards in schools leads to racial discrimination and more arrests. a deeply reported piece in the "new york times" suggests more guns in schools would do little to improve safety while increasing police harassment. >> gotta fight fire with fire. that's not what the fired says. -- not what the fire department says. >> stephanie: it increase number of minor problems reported to police, pushing kids into the criminal system. hundreds of people are given criminal citations. a large share are sent to court for relatively minor offenses with black and hispanic students and disproportionately affected. it doesn't matter what -- their answer is always more guns. to every gun problem the only answer is more guns. so anyway. i don't know about criminal liability. >> there is a fire. get some kerosene. >> stephanie: what?

that's what we need. more care -- kerosene. >> caller: hello, steph. hello to everyone there. don't confuse me because i'm nervous now. >> stephanie: i'm sorry. go ahead. >> caller: this is my first time calling you. but i watch you all the time. what i want to say is did you hear susan collins say the reason she's signing on to it is the fact that between family members, that you all have to have a registration or the form that you need. they just want you to sign on to it. when you transfer a car, you give a car to a family member, you still have to do paperwork on that car for them to receive that car. and another thing i want to -- an example what if -- you could say she transferred even though he was licensed, if he was not

licensed, she could give him the gun without any paperwork and we know he had problems. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: what i'm saying in a nutshell is even if you transfer or give a gift of a gun to a family member or friend, you still need to do the paperwork on it. >> stephanie: denise, you bring up a good point. cars keep coming into the discussion. why is it guns are the one thing that we feel like we should have to know -- we should have no regulation of any kind for. it is amazing. what i was saying, when you want to bring more reasonable debate into a discussion, what do you do? you go to texas republican congressman. that's what you do. [ ding ding ] [ applause ] >> stephanie: that's what you do. he's selling a bumper sticker which you can purchase. just donate $10 for his election campaign. if baby had guns, they wouldn't

be aborted. >> but they -- >> stephanie: arms and fetuses could shoot their way out of -- >> because their trigger fingers are well-developed. you that is the same guy that invited ted nugent to the state of the union. >> stephanie: right. the last time we heard his thoughts, it was -- when he said the best thing about the earth is if you poke holes in it, oil and gas comes out. >> yeah, ask those people in -- where is it? >> arkansas. >> stephanie: where they're cleaning stuff up in arkansas. >> worse than oil. >> stephanie: jason in texas. you're -- speaking of texas hi, jason. >> caller: hi, stephanie. how you doing today? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: you really set me up with that comment from that idiot in texas. >> stephanie: i'm trying to let you redeem texas single-handedly. >> caller: i hope i can. i was just curious.

i feel there needs to be some changes. i agree in the limit on stuff. it is the same as what's happening with our children these days. a lot of people need to be fair to their children, a little bit more. but the laws of certain weapons and certain -- i'm curious to know does it have to be a federal law that the countrywide ban -- i don't hear any discussion about letting it be more of a state by state thing. i do feel that there are some people -- i live on the border of texas. i'm not saying -- i don't have an assault weapon. i don't have a big large ranch but i did live in a town where bullets were hitting the local college from across the border from a gunfight across across the border and there are a lot of drug runners that come through this area with big weapons. a blanket law like that, not saying that a rancher with an assault weapon is going to change the world or anything like that but it sure would be

nice to have a larger weapon when i come around the corner and there's two trucks with a million dollars worth of cocaine and four drug runners with assault weapons. so like said, my question is why can't -- i don't hear anything about it -- >> stephanie: jason you heard jim say, i think michelle obama echoed those comments talking about if you live in a rural area understanding -- i do think, you're right. reasonable people can have the debate. not every place in america is the same. i just think all we're talking about is some sensible limits or control. >> on the other hand, there has to be some federal law because as happens in chicago where they do have strong gun laws, they just come over the border from indiana and ba-da-boom. so there has to be some kind of federal standard. >> stephanie: we understand in texas, you know you can bring your gun to church. absolutely must have a right to shoot a communion wafer as if it is a clay pigeon.

[ gunfire ] >> oh, never mind. >> body of somebody. >> stephanie: bars because guns and alcohol are the best combination of anything ever since chocolate and peanut butter. >> ask anyone in tombstone. oh they're all dead. >> stephanie: right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> i got her number off the men's room stall. 1-800-steph-12. gripping, current. (vo) this afternoon, current tv is the place for compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

>> what a way to start the day. (vo) followed by with stephanie miller" >> this is big for me. only on current tv. >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." 51 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone until toll free from anywhere. been talking about the gun debate all morning. boy. anyone see this headline.

man kills himself with a gun at nra nascar event. >> yeah. oi. >> stephanie: the event was the first nra-branded race in nascar's premiere series. he died of a self-inflicted injury after getting into an argument with campers. >> wow, nra and nascar. >> stephanie: i'm sure the nra will find that politically unfortunate. okay. let's go to linda in virginia. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hello, linda. >> hi, stephanie. the first time i've been able to get through. hi to everybody else, too. >> stephanie: yahoo. it gets me a little tongue-tied. i've never been able to get through before. >> stephanie: that's okay. here you go. >> caller: i have a brilliant idea about this ridiculous congress passing some kind of gun legislation. if you try to visit congress, you have to be searched or you have to be -- you know, so i think that it is a truly -- if

they truly believe there is no need for gun control and no need for gun legislation, they should put their money where their mouth is. >> stephanie: take out the metal-detectors. >> caller: take out the people who are hired to inspect all of this stuff, you know. send them to a different job. >> stephanie: you're right. they have gun safety when they're on the floor of congress and they don't want us to have the same -- very good point. john and pam from ohio! >> stephanie: all right. if you want to. it's john and pam. ♪ from ohio, it's the john and pam show ♪ >> stephanie: that's enough. hello, john and pam. >> good morning. hey, i called in. we're on our way home. i called in, steph you just brought it up about the nascar race. you know, that should be the poster thing for background checks. because he got into the field with that gun.

we've been to nascar races. you probably know we have. they search -- they go through everything. now, i know he was on the inside down there in the campground. but you're not supposed to take weapons inside a nascar race. or anywhere, steph. and these background checks, they need to be thorough. it is the same thing you've talked about all morning about the cars. if you sell a car you have to go in and show that that person, you know, you're selling this car to that person. now, if you sell a gun to somebody that isn't mentally stable to have a gun well, they can go out and shoot anybody! >> stephanie: right. that's right. >> caller: it makes no sense to me stephanie. it is harder to -- anymore to get a driver's license when you get a certain age than it is to buy a gun!

>> stephanie: you know, pam, i don't know if you heard earlier, a guy called in and said where they have the show me the papers law, i gotta show papers for being brown in some states. and you know, you shouldn't have to be bothered with any paperwork with a gun. it is incredible. >> caller: when you go -- that's like -- say you go on a cruise. you gotta have a birth certificate to show you're the person that you are. this is ridiculous. >> stephanie: i enjoy our three-way on saturday night when you and john rushed the stage and gave the security people a heart attack. >> caller: oh, honey. i had to hug you steph. i could just kiss that little face right off of yours. if i can't just hug on you one time it wouldn't have been worth my trip, honey. >> stephanie: i enjoyed it. you nearly did kiss my face off. i appreciate it. >> caller: okay. >> stephanie: love you. give john a kiss. >> wow.

[ applause ] >> stephanie: they could not be more totes adorbs. in person, it is almost overwhelming. all right. rachel in california. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi rachel. >> caller: hi, how are you doing? >> stephanie: go ahead. i'm nervous, too, because i've never talked to you before. >> stephanie: that's all right. >> caller: i have a few things here. people seem to want to bring jesus and guns involved and all of this and everything like that. i, myself, there are -- whatever is a conservative, i consider myself and independent think errand my thinking is that if conservatives saw a jew on the street and they would see them as this is what the liberals think. if i was a conservative because they think i'm a conservative, okay. so they say if i saw him, i would think he was a dirty homeless hippie. i'm not judgmental. the fact of the matter, if that's the case, if that's what all liberals want to think about conservative women you know, i really have respect for sarah

palin and republican women and i also do -- >> stephanie: wait, wait. this is where we part company because i don't think everyone thinks that about all conservatives or all -- >> caller: this is the rant that i get toward my personal belief. my independent thinking, you know. i don't think people understand there's no happy medium. it is liberals and the republicans that don't come together. the vast majority that separates this country and it irritates me. with this gun control thing. it is like they can't even deal with what's on the books now. why make anything new? all of the criminals have guns. >> stephanie: rachel -- >> caller: people are on meds because, you know, they think they need meds. you go to a doctor, i have a cold, they're all i think you need paxil. that's an insult to injury because i do suffer -- i was a victim of a violent crime and if i did have a gun at that time, i it would have saved me a lot of grief in my life. it upsets me being abused, cyber

bullied from your viewers and -- >> stephanie: wait a minute. what? >> caller: me bringing jesus -- they brought jesus into it. >> stephanie: okay, rachel, i don't think every conservative thinks jesus -- they would think jesus is a dirty homeless hippie. >> caller: thank you. >> stephanie: that's what i'm saying -- you're painting our side withs is broad a brush. >> caller: i'm hearing this from everybody that's a liberal on your chat. i'm seeing this and it is really sad to me is because yes i am christian and i'm proud to say that and if i was muslim, would i get more respect? come on. >> stephanie: i think -- listen. i'm still telling you could take you out for a box of wine and turn you around on sarah palin. >> caller: i think she's nice and beautiful. >> stephanie: she's beautiful. okay. now you lost me again. she's beautiful. nice? not so much. >> she's a little confused.

>> stephanie: 58 minutes after the hour. >> stephanie: settle down, you people in the chat room. right back on "the stephanie miller show."

[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: all right. current tv world hour number three. jacki schechner. >> hard to think someone didn't take a crazy pill when they go off on a rant like that. >> stephanie: i was having trouble keeping my arms and legs inside the phone call at all times. >> wild ride happening there. >> left out the fact that jesus was a jew. >> stephanie: i think we were getting to that. >> you lost me at i have a lot

of respect for sarah palin. >> stephanie: that's where she lost me. i couldn't hear anything else. speaking of its's like multiple rounds of talking points. an assault weapon, there's too much incoming. >> 100 round magazine of talking points. >> stephanie: of right wing talk points. >> everything smooshed note a bad casserole. >> stephanie: i think people think i probably missed a few things but it was hard -- i can't -- i want to comment on three things -- never mind. all right. with her thoughts all in order jacki schechner in the current news center. >> we hope so. good morning everybody. starting today when the senate begins debate on gun control legislation, advocates along with family members of victims of gun violence are going to hold around-the-clock vigils on capitol hill. it is called the no more names project and it is going to continue until the senate votes which organizers know full well could take weeks. participants include the center for american progress and organizations like mayors against illegal guns, the newtown action alliance and americans for responsible solutions which is gabby

giffords and mark kelly's group. supporters plan to read the names of gun violence victims in 20 minute shifts. they'll be set up on the house side of the capitol. the supreme court has decided not to take up a case concerning whether or not the constitution guarantees the right to carry a load gun outside the home. federal appeals courts have been divided on the issue with some states requiring you to show a "good and substantial reason" for carrying a gun. others say the second amendment implies a right to carry a load gun in public. in 2008, the supreme court ruled an individual does have the right to own a gun but that decision applied to keeping a gun at home. for self-defense. after telling a "new york times" magazine he may consider a run for new york city mayor former congressman anthony weiner has released a 64-point plan for making new york city more middle class family friendly. weiner calls a 21-page policy booklet keys to the city which covers everything from education and healthcare to safety and crime.

he released a similar document five years ago when he was considering a run for mayor in 2009 but he gave up on that idea. we're back with more show after the break. john fugelsang: if you believe in states rights but still support the drug war you must be high. cenk uygur: i think the number one thing viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. i think the audience gets that i actually mean it. michael shure: this show is about being up to date so a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. joy behar: you can say anything here. jerry springer: i spent a couple of hours with a hooker joy behar: your mistake was writing a check jerry springer: she never cashed it (vo) the day's events. four very unique points of view. tonight starting at 6 eastern.

>> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it's "the stephanie miller show." ♪ i'm walkin' on sunshine ♪ ♪ i'm walkin' on sunshine ♪ ♪ and it's time to feel good ♪ ♪ all right now ♪ ♪ it's time to feel good ♪ >> stephanie: oh, yeah, it is. 6 minutes after the hour. happy monday, everybody. thank you, chicago! chicago sexy liberal, there was a lot of crying. can i just say there's not a

lot of comedy shows where there's crying. >> there's no cryin' in baseball. >> stephanie: there was a lot of crying and laughter. thank you everybody. >> you would hope laughter. not just crying. >> stephanie: it was mostly laughter with some crying jags. all right. >> like one of your parties. >> stephanie: all about the love. basically. denise in st. paul, still on a contact high from saturday night. steph, irma gird, such an amazing time saturday night. got to hang out with tom schaefer, rocky mountain mike, audra, mary from ann arbor. we have -- tourists -- >> we would spontaneous break into show phrases. like rocky more. they shout the punch line before i get to it. or yell random thoughts like callers on the line. they throw rice.

running across the street to the theatre, we were all shooting -- wow! ♪ >> stephanie: from my upstate new york childhood. love you. i thought pam was going to kiss your face off. and you kissed me and it was nice. denise in st. paul. >> she liked it. >> stephanie: i flashed my boobs but that's an every show thing. >> i heard. >> stephanie: someone asked. i don't like to disappoint. they traveled a great distance, many people. >> that's more of like an every night for you. you flash them at passing cars. during spinning class. >> stephanie: still all about the love. i talked about this in the first hour. i'm so touched that people come and share their stories and all of that stuff. including jamie who he has a disease, very painful. he has a connective tissue thing. he's just -- couldn't have been more lovely. he said dear mama, thanks for a fantastic show. sexy liberal rocked. later, we sat next to grant and

vivian, the couple that got engaged during the q&a. it was amazing. he did the whole thing jim down on one knee, ring. she said yes and the whole theatre -- got to raise a glass. >> thank god she said yes. >> stephanie: he says -- for three hours every weekday you make me laugh and jamie, thank you for sharing your story. he was one of the many people that made mama cry. saturday night. love you mama. i actually captured a photograph of john fuglesang's aura. but only the photos of john were like that. >> stephanie: he's comedy jesus. [ applause ] >> stephanie: that's not an accident. hal sparks everybody rocked it saturday night. thank you, everybody. >> did hal sparks do t-rex? >> of course he did t-rex. >> stephanie: literally. we've been on tour for two years. we started in madison almost two years ago. every time, i'm like shh.

hal's doing t-rex. i've seen it how many times. >> not the fans. >> stephanie: the dinosaur bit as we call it. all right. hey, we talked a lot about the republican party ist however if we're progressives, i this ink -- i think they're little a regressive. they call regarding silly publicity stunt. >> matches in selma those were just a silly political stunt. >> stephanie: while manic that share head in disbelief that they continue the distance of a segregated high school prom, georgia governor nathan deal who is -- >> big fing deal. >> stephanie: he's the real deal in georgia anyway. the separate but equal -- that's his state where that's

happening. refuses to express support for an effort to hold the first ever integrated -- wouldn't that be something in 2013? deal's spokesman rejected a request to take a side on the issue because why would you? calling it a silly publicity stunt organized by a leftist front group for the state democratic party. >> people who want integrated proms are a leftist front group? >> stephanie: right. >> wow! okay. >> stephanie: so that happened. >> are you happy with that governor georgia? >> i'll bet he could squeal like a pig. >> stephanie: things that are somewhat disturbing. okay. so we were talking in chicago about north korea and basically the subject was dennis rodman, what the [ bleep ] did you say? >> he's going back. did you hear that? he's going back this summer. >> stephanie: really? i was in chicago. i was saying great sports town. aren't there other retired

chicago athletes that would have been better at this? >> michael jordan. >> stephanie: reridge freighter perry what are you doing? >> he's not basketball. >> stephanie: i said retired athletes. >> sammy sosa? >> stephanie: he could have just sat on kim jong-un. >> sammy sosa. >> stephanie: right. >> he could do something. >> stephanie: has to be somebody better than dennis rodman for god's sakes. >> someone with fewer tattoos and piercings maybe. >> someone who is a little less freaky looking. >> stephanie: john kerry over there. >> no piercings on john kerry or tattoos -- >> as far as we know. >> although, he was in the navy. >> stephanie: we get news ahead of everybody else here on "the stephanie miller show." apparently kim jong-un was visited by -- sometimes people talk to their departed ones for advice. may not be a good idea. >> ooh! it is your father.

>> dad! >> what are you doing here? am i dreaming? >> no. you just had bad -- >> ooh i'm talking to you from the other side. >> you mean south korea? >> what are you doing there? >> no! what are you a californian all of a sudden? for some reason, i wound up in heaven. >> you don't believe in heaven. >> i know, right it's weird. by the way jimi hendrix. >> that's not important right now. the point is i think i got here because i didn't stop a nuclear holocaust. >> a what? >> a nuclear holocaust. you know what i mean. i didn't -- you shouldn't neither. are you out of your freaking mind? wtf. don't do something lamebrained and ruin my legacy. don't flush it down the toilet.

by the way all the crap. kuala lumpur. >> we are? >> never mind! incidentally, would it kill you to eat a salad? you're starting to look like -- >> who? >> never mind! ♪ memory ♪ ♪ remember ♪ >> never mind! kim out. ooh. [ applause ] >> stephanie: "the stephanie miller show" would like to apologize to any crazy dead north korean dictators we may or may not have offended. >> and shakespeare. >> i think we offended shakespeare. >> stephanie: john kerry over there talking -- >> kim jong-un needs to understand, as i think he probably does, what the outcome of the conflict would be. >> stephanie: well, there's

that. >> we have a few weapons at our disposal that we could deploy. >> we have missiles that we can actually target. hit the place. >> stephanie: yeah. >> stephanie: john kerry. >> what we agreed to do is immediately bear down with further discussion and very senior level in order to fill out exactly what steps we could take together to make sure that this is not rhetoric. >> why is he so angry? >> stephanie: i don't know. he's out of control. sorry we had to see him like that. i have not heard that, that dennis rodman is going back. presumably to repair the damage? his role is much like my dad's in the '64 campaign? >> what jim meant to say -- >> stephanie: about nuclear weapons was this. i'm sorry. >> stephanie: okay. >> how does he get a visa? the u.s. isn't going to get him a visa to leave to go to --

>> maybe he has dual citizenship somewhere. mars maybe. >> stephanie: mars would be my guess. by the way i get the weirdest gifts ever meaning unbelievably amazing. someone actually got me -- brought me goldwater/miller official stationery from the campaign. >> now when you run out of printer paper -- you have something to go to. >> stephanie: i'll use artifacts. >> from the desk of barry goldwater. >> did you that with your stephanie miller tv show stationery. >> that had run out of its usefulness much like the show. i need the paper. >> where was the danny bonaduce stationery? >> the printer version of get down off the cross someone needs the wood. stop bitching about your canceled tv show. >> the united states will do what is in es to defend our allies japan republic of korea and the region against these provocations. our choice is to negotiate.

our choice is to move to the table and find a way for the region to have peace. >> stephanie: here's a historical fun fact. you know when they started developing these is when we stopped talking to them when george bush was in charge. john kerry. >> if the threat disappears, ie, north korea denuclearizes, the same perative does not exist for us to have to have that kind of robust forward leading posture of defense. >> stephanie: exactly. then he was talking to the chinese president. >> mr. president this is obviously a critical time with some very challenging issues. >> yeah. he did say that the way to peace in north korea is through china. it is. >> they have some influence. >> stephanie: all right. 17 minutes after the hour. you know, big commerce, i gotta

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customer service reps because i always think i'm the only one that's an idiot. at sexy liberal i didn't realize why people were holding up their cell phones at the end. that's the thing instead of an actual lighter. >> they held up an app of a lighter. >> you can only start an app of a fire. >> stephanie: it is an app with a lighter. >> you know who makes the app? >> zippo. seriously, they do. >> stephanie: there you go. see, this is why you need big commerce. special offer when you use my name. 30-day trial plus two hours of personalized ecommerce coaching free when you subscribe. bigcommerce.com. click on the blue headphones. select my name, stephanie from the drop down menu. click on the blue headphones at the top and select stephanie. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: red, white and steph, it's "the stephanie miller show."

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>> achilles problems, right? >> his career. >> stephanie: he's -- he tweeted he was being wheeled into surgery surgery prep time looking like mrs. doubtfire with a cap. sportswriters and basketball experts say it could be the end of his career. >> it took six months to heal. >> he was younger. >> stephanie: right. he's like 35. that's like wilford brimley of basketball. >> why yes he is. >> stephanie: he's almost ready to go talk to north korea. he's almost that retired. all right. let's go to -- sandra in texas. you're on the "the stephanie miller show." on the gun debate. hi, sandra. >> caller: i can't believe i got through. >> stephanie: thank you. go ahead. >> caller: you are on my speed dial, by the way. >> stephanie: hello. >> caller: what i had to say was i heard over the weekend that

the tea party -- this is another reason why the tea parties have no business being in government. they want to repeal the congressmen in their state who signed the stand your ground law so they're circulating a petition right now to either arrest them or have them recalled from office. their idea of patriotism is if you don't agree with them, then you're not a patriot. you're only a patriot if you see eye to eye with them. >> stephanie: i don't know what to say. be interesting to see what happens to the tea party in this next election cycle. we've read the stories they're done. >> there are a few remnants left that cause trouble. >> stephanie: talking to you rand paul. okay. t.c. in dallas, you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: good morning. all right. hey, by the way, when are you guys going to come to dallas? >> stephanie: i will look into it. >> caller: i'm look hard because i will definitely be there. >> stephanie: aw, thank you honey.

go ahead. >> caller: i was calling about this gun debate. these guys that want the high-powered weapons and everything. it doesn't make sense to me because i mean, if a man says he needs an ak-47 or an m-16 or whatever to protect himself and his family, i think the guy is a coward. >> stephanie: yes. >> caller: that's my opinion. any man that can't protect himself with a rifle, pistol and shotgun, he's a coward. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: plain and simple. by the way, you were talking about -- >> stephanie: or you're just a really bad shot. either way. but go ahead. >> caller: yeah, right. a shotgun can shoot anything. hey, you're going to hit somebody. so i don't understand it. anyway, you were talking a few minutes ago about the situation that happened here at the speedway in dallas. >> stephanie: the nra nascar race, the guy shot himself in the head. >> caller: you know who they spoke to, who was there?

>> stephanie: who? >> caller: karl malone. >> speak of retired basketball players. >> caller: he says i'm a registered member of the nra and i'm also a board member and i'm very proud of that fact and i am 6'9" and i'm not hard to find. >> stephanie:, a h well. >> caller: that's what he said. >> stephanie: yikes. i forgot about him. karl malone is a pretty well-known right winger, right? kenny pick in cleveland. hello, kenny. >> caller: hello. i had such a blast at the show the other night steph. although i was a little upset i didn't get the three-way caping aren't demonstration. >> stephanie: john fuglesang very uncooperative during the tea teabagging demonstration. >> caller: a special shoot-out to my sisters from other misters. audra and kate. >> stephanie: irma gird. >> caller: audra has one of the

best pictures of me walking down the streets of chicago with a 24 pack of beer. >> stephanie: those are my people. >> caller: we had an amazing party before and after. did some hotel hopping and bumped into john at the end of the night. it was a lot of fun. >> stephanie: it was an all night party in chicago. thanks so much. glad you were there. >> caller: see you next time. >> stephanie: i saw some pictures of that debauchery. we have some new pictures up, right? at stephanie miller show facebook and who knows what high-strung sexy liberal tour director roland was doing. lots more to get to. the immigration debate and some great pieces about the president's budget and social security and all of that stuff i know everybody is very -- emotional. yes. 29 minutes after the hour. talking now as we continue on "the stephanie miller show."

to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking?

>> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." 34 minutes after the hour. i need to pause briefly because we mentioned this story earlier but there are stories that make you go -- >> oh, my god! >> stephanie: tmz brings the headline, justin bieber thinks he could have made anne frank one less lonely girl. >> oh, my god.

>> delusional much? >> self-absorbed. >> stephanie: it is another edition of self-absorb much? he visited the anne frank house in amsterdam. the anne frank house has a facebook page. okay. fill in your own -- horrible jokes there. in our guest book, he wrote truly inspiring to be able to come here. anne was a great girl. hopefully she would have been a belieber. [ buzzer ] >> god, no! >> stephanie: tmz writes her diary entry would have included the word "douchebag." >> so horrifyingly tone-deaf. does he even know what happens at the end of the diary of anne frank? >> stephanie: i don't know if he stayed for the end. at least even i have the -- i'm a self-involved douche from

hollywood as well but at sexy liberal when people were telling me their stories and how much the show means to them, i'm appreciative. it is more about them than me and i did -- there was a point where i told you the black gentleman said i want you to know the work do you is every bit as important as dr. martin luther king. [ buzzer ] i did call bull [ bleep ] on that. >> justin clearly didn't see the diary of anne frankenstein. >> stephanie: jim made that all about him. we're trying to outself-involve douchebag each other out here in hollywood. >> i don't think anne frank was brought up at all at the sexy liberal show. i gotta hand it to you. >> stephanie: but martin luther king. >> computer says no. >> people are good until she met justin bieber. >> stephanie: dr. martin luther king, i have a dream today. >> stephanie miller. 2012. i said [farting sounds] >> stephanie: a tiny skosh of

a difference there. a he will bieber. that would be have been an important thing. >> did he really think he could have saved her life? >> stephanie: i don't know. scott in florida you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi scott. >> caller: hi, stephanie. i love your show. i watch it, you know, faithfully every day. you guys are doing a great job there. does anybody see the irony in a gun suicide at an nra race? >> stephanie: i said, sadly at the nra today they're talking about what a political tragedy this is. >> caller: sure, absolutely. on the gun debate, you know, i don't understand what's going on in washington with this. well, i do understand. i know it is all about the money. that's what this is about. this issue should be about what is morally right and how we value life. we had 20 beautiful children lost their lives in newtown, connecticut. and yet we debate on closing the loopholes at gun shows and

private sales to prevent firearms from getting in the wrong hands. i'm all for owning guns, stephanie. you know firearms. i say congress does not want to act by holding gun shows and private sales to the same standards as a licensed dealer at the gun store then we should make gun shows and private sales illegal. someone who wants to sell his firearms, go through a licensed dealer at his store to sell the firearm for him and congress should also pass a law that simply says no one no one should have the right to a firearm without taking a firearm safety course first passes a background check and receives a license or permit upon completion to show they've passed both. >> stephanie: i'm sick of this -- i'm sick of this argument you know, oh, well that wouldn't have stopped newtown, the background check. jim, as you always say, we don't want to do anything to help lessen the incidence of this? it would have stopped the

virginia tech shooter? >> 100% so why try. >> stephanie: okay. there are specific -- there are different elements to every one of these tragedies that one or another -- any type of sensible gun legislation might have helped. but if you heard francine wheeler, the newtown mom who gave the president's address saturday, i don't know how -- no matter what side of the aisle you're on, you can't listen with your heart as well as your head to this. >> david and i have two sons. our younger son ben age 6 was murdered in his first grade classroom. on december 14th, exactly four months ago this weekend. >> stephanie: yeah. okay. so you know, it is just -- as we talk to eric boehlert about literally fox news basically telling the newtown families to shut up. i guess if you're talking about the second amendment you lose your first amendment. they sort of just stopped at nothing. they're really literally

smearing the newtown families because they've had the audacity to get into this debate. it is unbelievable. all right. the other debate going on, simultaneously immigration. marco rubio talking about immigration reform. >> we have in place today the status quo is horrible for america. >> okay. agreed. bipartisan group of senators they say they're almost ready to share the immigration overhaul that they've been crafting over the last several months. senator jeff sessions, the senator from alabama emerged briefly from his tree to say this. >> they have produced legislation, it appears that will give amnesty now legalize everyone that's here, effectively today and then there is a promise of enforcement in the future. >> then he went back to making cookies in the tree. >> stephanie: i like the pecan sandies. >> chips deluxe, please. >> stephanie: you know what? i like the way the debate has changed that a lot of newspapers

have stopped referring to human beings as illegals. that's the thing. sort of humanity that's really biting the republican party in the ass. look at this one. in a related story. it is all about inclusion. latinos move in favor of gay marriage. more hispanics than ever are in favor of gay marriage according to nbc news, "wall street journal" poll. they say they're in favor of allowing gays and lesbians to marry, wildest margin in the poll's history. they have evolved rapidly since 2004 but not among hispanics. they supported same-sex marriage by 53/42%. a 43-point turn around from 2004. but they make an interesting point in this poll. it is where all of the issues come together. yes, hispanics have been more socially conservative on preserving the family unit but cultural immigration are big parts. they agree more with democrats

which is why the election results are what they were. one republican pollsters says the numbers are negative. it is clear they're talking about tolerance of culture very different than white respondents. so you know, because there's lots of native -- many latinos are catholic but the numbers -- it isn't among -- catholics support marriage equality now as a whole. interesting how all of the issues interconnect. >> that's right. >> stephanie: thank you. did you see this piece in the l.a. timings? i love this. remember the guy the princeton student who stood up and questioned scalia? >> yeah. >> stephanie: he wrote a great piece in the "l.a. times." antonin scalia's anti-gay words are poison so i confronted him. we're talking about what he's going to say in june when the decision comes down because he was talking -- he said antonin scalia's anti-gay words are poison. he made his words painfully clear. i know poisonous language can be devastatingly hurtful.

duncan hosey wrote this piece. in december, scalia spoke at princeton. skied him about the language he used in past decisions involving gay rights. he quoted two of scalia's opinions to scalia. scalia wrote a case, i thought one could consider certain conduct reprehensible. murder, for example or polygamy and cruelty to animals. surely the only sort of animus at issue here, moral disapproval of homosexual conduct. so that's -- this is exactly what they proved about doma. it was based completely on gays and they thought that was okay then. >> that's right. >> i asked if he had come to referght the language. he posed two qwest of his own. if we cannot have moral failings against homosexuality, can we have it against murder? those are exactly the same things. can we have it against the other things? he has a good point the language scalia and others will use.

one day it will be unacceptable to equate laws against consensual laws with incest and bestiality. i worry about the impact of his language here and now. they'll issue rulings on prop 8 on doma. still, i can't help but hope at this time he'll consider how words have the potential to lead people to desperation and self-destruction. wouldn't it be great if scalia surprised us this time. >> stephanie: as happy clappy as i am, that is not going to happen. not going to happen with that douche nozzle. get me on the happy clappy train for a minute and then i'm like no! no! he will not surprise me. >> i say no, no, no. >> stephanie: nikki in vegas on the gun debate real quick. hello, nikki. >> caller: hi, stephanie. good morning babies. you all rock my world. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: three things real quick. you can answer them. first thing is the mugger of the young man that shot those babies

in connecticut, knew her child had a mental disability. not that i have anything against people with mental disabilities. >> stephanie: nikki, good point. according to the nra, she was a responsible gun owner and she's a responsible gun owner that, you know, left an open safe -- an arsenal of weapons knowing her son was unbalanced. that's right. >> caller: exactly. had she lived, i would have assumed she would have gone to jail as well for breaking the law, for being an accessory to murder. number two everybody's worried about the nut going over to speak to the other nut in north korea. then we're all upset because jay-z and beyoncé went to eat food in cuba. good god. >> stephanie: thank you. 45 minutes after the hour. back with the remaining moments of "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: the following program is closed-captioned for the thinking impaired. it is "the stephanie miller show."

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clinic is awesome. >> she's very particular about her hats. >> caller: if i don't see the other hat i still love you. >> stephanie: it is a little hard. i'm very persnickety like most old women are about their hats. >> caller: i only use that line with jane by the way. that was a great show. we had such a great time. i have to thank you again because in the washington, d.c. show, you allowed me to grab your right cheek and this last one now, i got your left cheek. tell jacki schechner i got both cheeks. >> stephanie: we believe in balance here at the "the stephanie miller show." thank you, john. thanks for the hat. >> caller: thank you so much. have a good day. >> stephanie: don't i look cute in this hat? >> stephanie: i look super this morning. ♪ i'm super thanks for asking ♪ ♪ all things considered, i couldn't be better i must say ♪ ♪ i'm feeling super nothing bugs me, everything is super

when you don't you think i look cute in this hat ♪ >> stephanie: you get both sides of the issues and both sides of my ass. >> half of your ass and half of jacki's. >> stephanie: whatever. jt in chicago you're on "the stephanie miller show." hello, jt. >> caller: hi, stephanie. according to you the handsome black man at the show on saturday. >> stephanie: handsome and romantic can i just say. >> caller: yeah. you're too kind to yourself -- you're too hard on yourself. i had to justify the martin luther king comment. >> stephanie: are you the guy who told me my work is just as important as what martin luther king did? >> caller: yes, i am. >> stephanie: i love you so much. with so much love in my heart,. ♪ are you an idiot ha, ha harks, ha, ha ♪ >> caller: dr. martin luther king spoke the truth to the world artistically. you do the same thing. people don't like politics so they don't want to listen to it.

you make them laugh. and you give them good quality information. and that's important because i'm surrounded by complete dumb asses. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: it would have been as if dr. martin luther king said i have a dream today and also -- [farting sounds] i had some beans. it is historically inaccurate. >> caller: you're just too hard on yourself. i told my wife i kissed a lesbian and i liked it. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: i love you jt. >> caller: i love you too. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: kissed a girl and he liked it. it must have been my cherry lipstick. >> cherry chapstick. >> stephanie: right. jennifer in fresno real quick. hi jen. >> caller: i feel compelled to respond to rachel who is also in california. >> stephanie: yes. which of the 100 round magazine

of right wing thoughts? >> caller: it is so hard to pick one. we'll go with the easiest ones. i'm tired of hearing conservatives say all liberals say this and all liberals say that because unfortunately, i'm in the armpit of california and surrounded by conservatives. i don't hear a whole lot of liberals talking back to people and telling them how terrible conservatives are. all of my conservative friends have no problem telling me both sides this and both sides that and liberals do this and that but they don't want to listen. >> stephanie: right. right. i think when we start talking to each other as human beings, we get a little further. for instance, so this whole debate on the president's budget and social security and all of that, which has some people on the left a little -- >> yeah. >> stephanie: emotional. so emotional as whitney houston would say. [ screaming ] >> stephanie: okay. here's the thing. >> i would say disappointed! >> stephanie: i happen to

agree with mike tomasky from the "daily beast." there are a lot of writers and thinkers that i respected. there is a lot of interest -- different interesting perspectives on it. he think this is a smart political move because as has been predicted republicans won't go for it and it makes the president look reasonable and hopefully get a democratic congress in 2014. i got into a fight with john fuglesang as i do at sexy liberal because the makeup sex is so good. he think is a bad political move because, you know, now it is on the table forever. i know bob schrum who you think we should never listen to about anything, he wrote an interesting piece -- he had some good points in a "daily beast" piece as well. democrats need to stop attacking obama's budget and wake up to reality. we'll get to more of it tomorrow. there is a lot of points, it is hard to cover them all. ronald brounstein, do you read him in the "l.a. times"? really smart good, political

writer. interesting point. he said the keen thing suggests that large portions of the democratic base still don't understand the political and economic dynamics of the changing electoral coalition. this is the whole argument about there is a lot of good stuff in the budget and it helps -- the millennials that obviously helped elect the president and going forward are going to be important politically. it is a political point about there being balance that has gotten so out of balance in terms of what we're investing in infrastructure, in our youth and head start, all of that stuff. so anyway, says much of this year's and washington stories about obama with the coalition of the ascended. minorities and college-educated whites, especially women that powered both of his victories. he is nearing the senate breakthroughs on gun control immigration reform. he's embraced marriage equality. we're making a lot of progress on a lot of issues that you know, i wouldn't even have thought, you know. a couple of years ago.

anyway he says -- brounstein says the obama fiscal blueprint cautiously dips into the same current by seeking to restrain entitlement spending while invigorating public investment through initiatives such as expanded preschool infrastructure, bank and more college aide. that combination would challenge the federal budget's tendency to favor the old over the young yet allowing entitlements to continue guarantees a sustained squeeze on the discretionary spending programs such as education that invest in future generations. some interesting points i hadn't heard anyone else make. he said payments to individuals for primarily entitlements and investments in the future education training, scientific research infrastructure each constut about 1/3 of the federal budget. by 2012, payments to the individuals reached 65% of the budget and investments plummeted to 14%. what he's saying is historic imbalance. washington spends seven times as much% senior citizens as child. we have to provide for the

retirement of a very large baby boom generation while also investing in the largest millennial generation has come along. his point is stop breeding, people for god's sake. >> rick santorum could take issue with that. he said it is hard to do. >> stephanie: federal spending measure and the share of the economy will rise in the years ahead requiring more tax revenue but the demography means unless washington restrains spending it will saddle young people are unsustainable tax or debt or slashes in health. we want the retirement programs to exist because we see them as being vital. but we also want long-term solvency. everything is off the table. that's the same strident conversation you see from the tea party. we'll finish with more of this tomorrow. i think there's he some interesting points on both sides of this. we'll get into it tomorrow. that's it for us today. chris lavoie boy toy voice deity jim ward, travis t-bone on

phones. jacki. we'll see you tomorrow on "the stephanie miller show."