[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: hello tv world. welcome to men i want to date and kiss and marry day here on "the stephanie miller show." minnesota vikings punter chris kluwe on the big show. michael tomasky of the "daily beast" and hal sparks, jacki schechner and ian roberts. >> that's a lot of man for one show. >> stephanie: it is a lot of man meat. >> you know the difference between soccer and rugby. >> cricket. >> stephanie: whatever. you may need to get a cab over here. it is too much man meat for me

to handle. >> we don't have any of that over here in the news center. >> you're the world's worst lesbian. >> stephanie: i've practiced a lot. here she is. sans man meat jacki schechner in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody. president obama is planning to nominate a new federal communications chair today. tom wheeler is venture capitalist and former lobbyist for the wireless and cable industry. reuters reporting wheeler has support from both business groups and consumer advocacy groups. he's and an informal adviser to the president for years. new jersey governor chris christie is out with his new tv ad for his re-election campaign. it is a 60-second spot called jersey proud. >> working with democrats and republicans, as long as you stick to your principles, compromise isn't a dirty word. the result, four balanced

budgets in a row with no new taxes for anyone. >> the ad highlights jersey's job growth and a bump in education funding and merit pay for good teachers. the christie re-election campaign is spending $1.2 million on the first buy and the ad will air in the new york and philadelphia markets which cover much of new jersey. and massachusetts primary voters have now picked their candidates to compete for john kerry's former seat in the senate. voters will go back to the polls now on june 25th for the special election. they're going to decide between veteran democratic congressman ed markey and political newcomer gabrielle gomez. former navy seal and his win is somewhat of a surprise. he's trying to sell himself as a new independent voice while markey is reassuring voters he will continue to advocate for the progressive causes he's been championing for years like gun control and a women's right to choose. markey has been in congress since 1976. we'll be back with more show for you after the break.

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presidential press conference yesterday. and new developments in boston. really, here's the thing -- we're going to talk to chris kluwe in about 20 minutes or so. this, i hope, this would be awful if this happens. i'm reading a story from twin cities.com. vikings, chris kluwe's activism helped jason collins might hurt himself. controversy whether he will be cut by the minnesota vikings and whether it would be because of his speaking out and that would be -- boo preemptively on the vikings. he's the best punter in vikings history. how would that happen if not for exercising his first amendment rights. [ ♪ battle hymn of republic ♪ ] i'm in a huff about this! consider the timing for punter chris kluwe they write at twin cities.com. two days after he started fielding questions about whether they would cut him about his advocacy for causes including same-sex marriage, jason collins credited him for making it easier to come out as a gay

athlete. i made that point yesterday thanks to chris kluwe who has paved the way. >> and brendan ayanbadejo. >> stephanie: that's why you don't mention him. because we cannot say his name. ayanbadejo. >> stephanie: like that was better. kluwe congratulated collins saying i'm happy he can live his life for who he is. kluwe wondering how much longer he'll have a job with the vikings and whether speaking out will have anything to do with the decision. it is all the talk in the twin cities. they drafted jeff locke. you know me, i'm focused on the draft on who's going when. >> oh, yeah. >> stephanie: i just toss that off like i knew. you didn't know what round, did you, jim? you weren't paying attention. >> no. i was responding to an e-mail. >> stephanie: don't feel you

need to pay attention or anything. okay. that's making him the highest drafted punter in team history. so that's what is starting a lot of this talk. general manager rick spielman said drafting lock was a normal personnel move adding he had no issues if chris kluwe wants to express his right. that's his freedom of speech however kluwe texted pro football talk over the weekend saying it is a shame that in a league with players given multiple second chances after arrests including felony arrests that speak out on human rights has a chance of getting you cut. he's nervous about it. when asked if he believed the vikings would release him because of his advocacy of is i for same-sex marriage, he said i don't know if that's the reasoning but it would a same if it was. my body of work speaks for itself. kluwe the best punter in vikings history. that would seem somewhat suspect. somewhat odd if he were to be cut. somewhat coincidental. >> ulterior motive of some kind. >> stephanie: yeah. he also stumped recently -- he's just an awesome guy.

>> he is. >> stephanie: not just on this issue. he stumped for former raiders punter ray guy to make the pro football hall of fame. how many other athletes care about other people that much? you know. anyway, after which vikings special teams coach mike pfeiffer said he wished kluwe would focus on his duties punting and holding for extra field goals. how do you get better than the best punter in vikings history. wish he could stop speak out. >> doke both. >> stephanie: whether it is hall of fame stuff or marriage equality. when he was asked about it in december pfeiffer said he hasn't discussed it with kluwe adding he doesn't listen. how do you know if you haven't talked to him about it? i find him very easy to talk to. spielman said locke was the top rated punter and the vikings plan to have open competition because apparently you have to be better than the best punter statistically in vikings history. though he would not comment on

whether the team might cut kluwe before training camp. so i'm watching you. god is watching you minnesota vikings and i'm watching you. don't make me unleash bette midler on your ass because i will. >> please don't unleash bette midler on all of us. >> stephanie: i will do it. >> all bette midler all the time. >> stephanie: this brilliant sparkle pony, we'll talk to chris kluwe in a few minutes. how about that. check me out. >> i could be his other t-shirt. >> stephanie: no, you could not. [ buzzer ] okay. >> his lustful [ bleep ] monster. >> stephanie: no. all right. the president -- >> by the way, i was at brunch with matt breen editor in chief the advocate and he wore that shirt -- >> stephanie: did he? >> to brunch. i said so you're the one who wears that in public. that's what i said to him. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: those folks are frisky at the advocate. they don't care. hot brie, melissa fitzgerald, our friend of "the stephanie

miller show," that's kind of the funniest t-shirt i've ever heard of. she had it made. it is different if you wear a t-shirt like lustful [ bleep ] monster. she actually had a t-shirt made that said i'm what willis was talkin' about. get it? if you're of our age. gary coleman what you talkin' about, willis? i'm what willis was talkin' about. okay. funny. all right. i know you were thinking about jim. >> you know damn well what i'm thinking about. >> stephanie: you don't care what's on the t-shirt is what you're thinking. you care about what's in the t-shirt. right. president obama had a press conference yesterday. we actually carried live. he needled a republican -- by the way, so i was back on cnn yesterday. i was on erin burnett last night >> oh. >> stephanie: they're having panels back after all of the breaking news.

but i'm sick of reporters starting every question with lindsey graham says -- i did did get one thing in. somebody dared me to say well-known southern belle lindsey graham. i didn't get it in but i got in the vapors. is there anything that doesn't give lindsey graham the vapors. well lindsey graham said. he has the vapors about everything. benghazi boston. everything is the president's fault, right? syria, it is always the president's fault. always the same premise. >> he needs a helper behind him at all times with a fainting couch. >> stephanie: that's what irritates me. i play into it because i'm a media whore. what happens is the topic becomes literally i get an e-mail, the president's benghazi problem. really? how many times did this happen under president bush. how many people were killed at embassies around the world. the senator from the green room, lindsey graham says there is a benghazi problem. now there is a benghazi problem

and we must talk about it. there are two sides to this issue. there are two sides. [ ♪ hypnotic ♪ ] we must hear both sides. >> you gotta hear my side. >> stephanie: because the lawyer for -- this is what one of the reporters asked him yesterday, right? victoria, she said republican lawyer. >> why is she in the news? >> stephanie: she says you're block access -- watergate watergate, benghazi cover-up. fainting couch plop. then what? now, it is a thing. it is a thing. as if you have that one yes. and this is the president's two snaps up in a circle moment. >> obama: this is not right on this issue. although i'm sure it generated some headlines. i think that what we saw in boston was state local federal officials, every agency rallying around the city that had been attacked.

identifying the perpetrators just hours afterrer the scene had been examined. we now have one individual deceased. one in custody. charges have been brought. >> yes. >> it's not good enough. >> stephanie: i'm bringing a prop next time. i will bring smelling salts. >> why haven't you solved all of the problems? >> stephanie: lindsey graham's vapors. i mean -- okay. and these were the guys regularly on tv after 9-11. we all have to come together and get behind the president. this was the worst security failure in our history. and it was -- obviously as richard clark said, five alarm hair on fire, memos that said specifically what was happening was a huge terrorist plot that was missed entirely and meanwhile, even peter king, the republican on homeland security, has said russia didn't tell us everything. as the president said, the fbi

did their job and had they had more information, they might have done a different investigation but they didn't. so two dufuses that aren't part of a larger network do something in boston and national security has deteriorated under president obama. that's the subject now? really? let's talk about the president's benghazi problem and how national security has -- what! really? and as the president said, they caught the guys. one is dead. one is in custody in three days. and meanwhile it took president obama -- i had to reload. i had to stop and reload, you see? good. >> get the vapors. >> stephanie: smaller magazine because i had to reload. my point is -- here's what i'm saying. okay, after 9-11, how long did it take president bush to get bin laden? never! that's how long it took him. it took president obama to clean up that mess. >> i don't care where he is. i don't think about him much. >> stephanie: yes perhaps

disbanding the bin laden unit might have been something to do with bush not getting bin laden. did they cover that in the bush libary in whitewashtorium? no! they do not. okay. i'm just getting cranked up. don't get me started. this is what happens because i don't have much time on cnn so i'm saying everything i want to say. >> yeah. as soon as you get off the air why didn't i say that? why didn't i? >> stephanie: meanwhile you're always at a disadvantage when you're on satellite. i'm on a soapbox. and another thing erin! >> on an apple crate? >> stephanie: yes, little soapbox. 17 minutes after the hour. i'm just getting warmed up! much more on the president's press conference. all of this as we continue on "the stephanie miller show." >> that was strangely arousing! >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." (vo) from the underworld

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♪ let's dance ♪ >> stephanie: minnesota vikings punter chris kluwe coming up at the bottom of the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. katy in massachusetts. on the president's press conference. hi katy. >> caller: i think the president did give a great response regarding senator graham's comments or the question and first of all it makes me angry he has to dignify these people with a remark but what he should have said was well, as far as

the boston bombings, i can assure senator graham that i did not miss a presidential intelligence memo saying the tsarnaev brothers determined to strike in the u.s. >> stephanie: literally. katy, that's a great point. it would have been the equivalent if he had gotten a memo saying chechnyans determined to strike with things like bombs at the boston marathon. that's how specific the 9-11 memos were, right? >> absolutely. i wish he would have said that and said guys, you know, you gotta get a grip. we have -- because the comment was -- that bothered me was have we gone backwards as far as intelligence gathering and national security. that's the part that bothered me >> stephanie: i'll never forget that. do you remember the name of the memo? she's like oh, i think terrorist determined to strike in the united states. literally -- like the world trade center using things like

planes. like that was so unspecific. >> caller: it wasn't like some people reporting there was a run on pressure cookers on sale, either. that was the thing. >> stephanie: katy, right. to compare to two dufuses that figured out how to make stuff off the internet. and again you can't -- like jim has said, unless you're in minority report, how do you know that they interviewed tamerlan? how do you know in advance unless he's part of a larger terrorist plot. had russia shared more specific information about the phone calls with you know, zubeidat. i'm just saying, we need to have that at the ready. it is stuck in everyone's head now. >> determined to strike in the u.s. kitchen implements. >> stephanie: kitchen implements ready to go. >> ignore that specific warning. >> stephanie: yeah exactly. maybe it is like the fbi --

mixers instead of pressure cookers. >> stephanie: they focused on the wrong kitchen implement. ♪ zooby dot ♪ ♪ zooby dot ♪ >> stephanie: our fondest dream is going to come true. get the water skiing sound effect ready. boston bombing suspects' widow wants body released. worst possible -- we read yesterday in "the new york times," he already has the mirrored sunglasses because he dressed like a douche. they'll have him sitting up in a convertible. >> he dressed like a reject from the jersey shore. >> stephanie: alligator skin boots.

he looked like liberace and he liked to box in -- >> chinchilla shorts. they never chafe. >> stephanie: good morning jean. >> caller: good morning, steph. good to talk to you again. as the original steph head, i'm pleased that apparently you've become so popular, it is getting harder and harder to call in so i'm happy for you. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: i'm calling because if it's true that the vikings are considering having chris kluwe -- cutting chris kluwe because of his comments, i'm particularly peeved that it's the height of hypocrisy. it wasn't too many years ago when the vikings team was in trouble because they were on a boat on the mississippi having a party and either before they got on or when they got off they were urinating in yards. they had prostitutes on the boat. they did not have a pretty picture as a team, as a whole

for their entire team's value. >> stephanie: let me say they didn't have any gays. that would have been really morally repugnant. >> caller: that's true. boys will be boys. >> stephanie: jean you know what that's why i think it is important to put a spotlight on the vikings. they'll never say that. of course they can't say that. we cut him because of exercising his first amendment. i just think if you're in minnesota or not call the vikings. let them know. support him. tell them we're watching. we're watching. best punter in minnesota vikings history. it would be very suspect i think, if he were cut. >> caller: it would be really nice if some other vikings who have some moral integrity would speak up in support of chris. that's what would be really nice. >> vikes were never known for morality. more for pillaging. >> stephanie: the actual vikings. we're watching you minnesota

vikings. dave in minneapolis. >> caller: hey mama. there's a dog barking in my neighborhood keeping me up. i'm sure it is obama's fault so i'm going to call scarlet owe graham and ask her if she could get on obama about this since it is upsetting -- clearly the number of dogcatchers is reduced under this administration. i'm so fed up with this. you know -- >> stephanie: by the way you joke but at the next press conference, someone will say lindsey graham has spoken about your barking dog problem. why are you not doing more on that front? >> caller: i know. i probably gave him ideas. i apologize to the american public for that right now. >> stephanie: i'll discuss the president's barking dog problem. >> caller: because you and i are so close and we talk every day and consult. but this still is about race. i hate -- i keep thinking they don't want to see a person of

color succeed. it would look bad for them. we might end up with more of them who care about people and just can't happen. one thing about the football situation for minnesota. i don't watch it. but that's -- anyway, the lack of integrity is amazing. this is supposed to be the united states of america where you can say what you want without fear. that doesn't mean you're not going to have repercussions. we all have consequences for what we say and do at times, but this is so public and so obvious, wouldn't their p.r. person say to them maybe we don't want to do this right now? it just seems to me it is very, very fishy. >> stephanie: the minnesota vikings you're talking about. >> caller: yes. >> stephanie: let's see what chris kluwe says about it. we'll talk to him next. squee! on "the stephanie miller show."

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>> you are terrible. you've got no rhythm, no coordination. i've seen two he wantleptic -- epileptics share a bowl of noodles with more grace. >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." 34 minutes after the hour. i was googling who is the best punter in minnesota vikings history. it is chris kluwe. squee. >> how is it going? >> stephanie: i've been watching you on the tv. you are doing great as usual. how are you? >> thank you. i'm doing fantastic.

>> stephanie: so listen, i was reading twin cities.com, we've been talking about this, minnesota vikings need to know, i'm watching them along with the rest of the country. i want to talk about that first. you obviously have been brave and outspoken in supporting jason collins as you always are. what is the situation there in minnesota? it would seem awfully suspect to me if you were to be cut from the minnesota vikings what do you think? >> well, they brought in a punter in the fifth round. that's generally fine. that's the direction the team is going to move in. all i can do is go out and punt to the best of my ability and just essentially trusting what i've done over the years. >> stephanie: it would be difficult to be better than the best punter in minnesota vikings history, wouldn't it? >> yeah, that would be tough. >> stephanie: i see why they need to have open competition as they're calling it at that position. so because obviously there's been a couple of comments they've made about you being outspoken. one of the coaches said something like i would like him

to focus on -- again your whatever -- your job. i'm like how do you focus on being better than the best in minnesota vikings history? >> that's one of the things i've been careful to do that when i'm at the facility, i'm there for football. i'm not doing anything else while i'm not there. because that's my job. that's what i'm paid to do. >> stephanie: i'm watching them. so chris kluwe obviously you wrote a great piece you are an amazing writer, by the way. >> oh, thank you. >> stephanie: but you wrote a piece on cnn.com. this is before jason collins came out about whys there is not an openly gay player in any of the four major leagues. what was your reaction when jason came out and the reaction to that? >> it is great. i'm happy for jason because he's finally able to be who he is. he doesn't have to hide anymore. that's a shame that he ever had to hide a part of himself in the first place because you shouldn't have to do that as a human being. it is not healthy for you. >> stephanie: you say -- this

piece is great. you start it by saying don't be a distraction. those are the words pounded into every single nfl player's head. team comes first. sacrifice your personal goals. which is what you said -- why you found it unsurprising that nobody has come out in any of the four major leagues right? >> yeah, i think really the thing now that a lot of guys will be watching is you know, what happens with jason collins. is he going to get a fair chance to compete for a job or are teams going to pass on him? yeah, he's a little bit older for an nba player but the fact is he's played, you know, at a consistent level for 12 years now. as a 7 foot tall player you can't teach 7 feet tall -- >> stephanie: is your point you're born that way? >> yeah, exactly. i'm going to try to grow more. >> stephanie: it's interesting. in this piece, you write players run the risk of losing their jobs if the team deems them too much of a distraction.

and it is interesting. i think as you pointed out there's been guys arrested, felonies, this that, and really? just being gay would be considered a distraction. >> right. exactly. because that's the thing you see all of the time. there's not just guys getting -- there's guys getting involved with various causes and you know, when we're at the football facility we're there to play football but when we're not there, we can live as we want. i don't think any employer should be able to tell you have to focus on your job 24 hours a day. i don't think that's sane. >> stephanie: yeah. listen, we're not even out of the studio before we've forgotten all about it. i love the way you write because a, you're very profane by -- which i love. why do people care so much about people's sexuality. why do people give [ bleep ] about how they live their life. why do i have to write this

about something that shouldn't be a factor in sports. >> i was going to say it is depressing, the fact that you know, this is supposed to be america. land of the free. where you are free to live your own life and yet there aren't people who are free and i don't understand why people can't say you know what? this isn't right. if i'm allowed to live my life, why not. >> stephanie: we eat together, we practice together. we watch film together. i assume you don't mean yentl. you say a gay player is going to suddenly destroy all of that because he's out is asinine. i love this part. you say there are millions of people across america who work with gay coworkers every day and they handle their business without riotous orgies. why would sports be any different? >> yeah. i think so many people i talk to are like it will be uncomfortable in the shower. i'm like what? you think guys are going to

start going at it on the shower floor? this is a work environment. >> stephanie: right. >> least sexy place in the world. a work environment. >> stephanie: that's the value, chris of jason collins. i've been showering with gay guys for years right? >> exactly. he says it in his own piece. i've been in the shower with guys and nothing has happened. i've been professional. every other gay athlete has played because there have been gay athletes that have played. they haven't assaulted someone in the shower. it is this idea that really, it is almost a form of narcissism from straight males that they think that all of a suddennen if a gay guy sees them, they'll be so overwhelmed by attractiveness but they'll have no choice but to mount them. it is ridiculous. >> stephanie: the guys that really have the least chance of any gay guy wanting to hit on them. this is my favorite part. you talk about that. you say players those of you

worried about a gay teammate hitting on you in the steam room, i have four simple words for you. grow the [ bleep ] up. this is our job. we are adults. act like one. straight people intrinsically understand that they are not attracted to every single person of the opposite sex. why would it be any different for gay people? >> exactly. again, it is this lack of empathy, of being able to put yourself in someone else's shoes and realize that this is how someone is living their life. they're not going to turn into a savage because of who they are. they are a human being like you are a human being. >> stephanie: right. you raise always such interesting perspectives, too in this piece. how much better would a player play if he didn't have to worry about hiding a core part of who he is. that's really important. >> that's something that jason himself addressed in his article. he said i feel like i've been baking in an oven for 33 years.

without a doubt it has affected his performance because i've seen guys that have been worried s about a wife who's pregnant or a sick child. that affects your performance because you're worried about something else. if you're a gay player who has to worry about keeping your core being hidden the entire time you're in the building, that has to affect your performance and not in a good way. >> stephanie: you say fans, media, will an openly gay player be a distraction? only if you make it one. only if you deny someone the freedom of living his life on his own terms instead of someone else's control. so far he's obviously -- except for the right wing fringe lunatics, he's gotten support. how do you think this will go with the fans? it made me -- it made my heart hurt when he said i've been booed before, i can take it. i really hope he doesn't get booed. how do you feel like the fans will react? >> i would hope if the fans are

booing him, it is for his playing ability. that's fair. as players, fans are allowed to boo you if you don't perform well. >> stephanie: if they yell, you suck, not that way! >> but if fans do say something nasty or personal, then i would hope that the other people in the arena would be -- they would say to them hey that's not cool. this is a guy who's trying to do his job. he's out there trying to be who he is and just as you wouldn't want someone yelling that at you, why are you yelling that at him? >> stephanie: you close your piece. as a teammate, a friend, you do not have to sacrifice who you are for the team to win. are you not a distraction. and you know, that's all we can do. i said this yesterday and so did jason obviously. it is people like you and brendan that have made this possible. the straight allies that have paved the way and made it safe for jason collins.

>> everyone else out there realizes this is an issue of empathy. it is a matter of we have to treat each other the way we would like to be treated because if not we're fostering conflict and discord in our society. and historically, that inevitably leads to bad things. it doesn't end well. >> stephanie: i want to mention athlete ally, we should mention scott of the new orleans saints. >> scott has been great too. he's one of the original pioneers of this along with brendan. i'm more of a late comer to the party. they've been doing a great job. >> stephanie: it made the jason collins thing possible. i think it is a great day in america when the president called jason immediately and you have to hope that between that and what's going forward at the supreme court that we're entering a new era here. >> yeah. i would really hope so.

because as martin luther king said, you know, the arc of history tends to bend toward more, not less. >> stephanie: the only bad thing that happens is i go from gay to questioning every time i have you on. and i know you're happily married so it is all -- life is messy, chris kluwe. this sparkle pony thanks you. >> no problem. thank you. >> stephanie: talk to you again soon, chris. >> thank you. >> stephanie: there he goes, minnesota vikings punter the best one in minnesota vikings history, by the way. >> yeah. and he is a beautiful sparkle pony. >> stephanie: he really is. 45 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: it is justism plied but we all know what's going on. the kids don't know but we do. >> if you believe in state's rights but still support the drug war you must be high. >> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day. >> do you think that there is any chance we'll see this president even say the words

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about bush to 9-11 and they were warned. right on for that. we've got an awesome president. i wish he could have four more years for us. >> stephanie: aww. mitch mcconnell would love that. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: barbara, i tried to bring up, i didn't have the numbers like right at my fingertips but you know how many times this happened under george bush? do you remember there being a benghazi problem? this has happened at embassies around the world unfortunately under every president right? >> exactly. >> stephanie: only because lindsey graham -- does he ever stop clutching the pearls? >> no. >> stephanie: pearl necklace? >> he always seems to have pearls around his neck. >> stephanie: really something. okay. here is the well-known southern belle, lindsey graham. >> it is not so much about blaming people as to get it right. we've lost eight americans in seven months. four overseas, four at home. rad radical -- clearly to me,

the system is not working the way it has supposed to. i'm shocked that this happened after 9-11 where people know -- i thought we had gotten over that. >> republicans refused to increase funding for embassy security. >> stephanie: they cut funding which secretary of state clinton asked for repeatedly. i'm sorry. what did he say? eight americans? have we added up the numbers under george w. bush including 9-11, how many people? >> a lot. >> and all of the unnecessary wars? >> stephanie: this wasn't necessarily specifically about our agencies not talking to each other. it was about russia not giving us specific information because you know, obviously the fbi being somewhat suspect of russia because they're always asking us to spy on chechnyans because that's their political -- >> that's their bugaboo. >> baby. >> stephanie: it literally -- it is not about blaming people. yes, it is.

you blamed him for everything. you have the same template for every "meet the press" appearance. it is benghazi, boston, syria. what about the red line. i think they have a fainting couch in the green room now. just for lindsey graham. all right. pete in madison you're on "the stephanie miller show." hello, pete. >> caller: hi. i'm a lifelong packer fan. i know all of the minnesota vikings malfeasances, chapter and verse. caller earlier talking about the vote incident where culpepper the starting quarterback and offensive starts were out there on the boat having a good ole time with prostitutes and watering the lawns. then you have randy moss who hits a police officer in downtown minneapolis nothing happens to him. let's not forget that brett favre when he was a minnesota vikings, that's when -- came out

and he was still allowed to play. >> stephanie: seriously? that is the height of moral decrepitude, if you ask me. photographing your own penis in those sandals. in crocs. who masturbates in crocs. look down, that would turn you off? >> that would turn me off as much as uggs. >> stephanie: mike in madison. >> stephanie: i'm not going to comment on whether or not i leave those on during that. mike in madison you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: good morning. i'm calling -- i happen to agree with you about 20% of the time. however you do have an awesome show. i would like to make a little story about myself. i'm completely 100% heterosexual.

now, as me and -- my wife and i go out to dinner, i would occasionally regularly get hit on by a waiter who was gay. what would happen is over a course of time, i would come to the same restaurant. now, i'm almost to the point -- he doesn't hit on me no more, i'm at a point of depression. >> stephanie: i understand. >> i want to know what i'm doing wrong. paul, if you hear me, start hitting. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: i love you. not in a gay way mike. don't disappoint the straight guy. give it a little something. give him a little something. that's how you know you're getting old when the gay guys stop hitting on you. cheryl in albuquerque you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, stephanie, how are you? >> stephanie: good. how are you? >> caller: good. i'm a lifelong vikings fan. i know everything there is to know about the vikings. the reason chris kluwe -- the

reason they drafted a punter is because chris kluwe's stats are not that good. he used to be the best punter in vikings history but the last few years, he hasn't done all that good. that's why. >> stephanie: hang on a second. hang on. i have statistics here. you just wait there. look. i understand statistics can change over time but he still statistically is the best in vikings history. >> but in the last couple of years -- >> stephanie: i got it. you wouldn't find that suspect cheryl, if then to cut him? >> caller: not at all. the front office in winter park has already said that it has nothing to do with his comments on gay marriage. >> stephanie: of course they're going to say that. wait a minute. i have fun facts for you. he averaged 44.4 yards per punt in his eight seasons. the best average in team history by more than half a yard. >> what about the last year or two. >> stephanie: shush. >> that's the thing. >> stephanie: it would need half a season to eclipse greg

coleman's season. in 2012, kluwe's 39.7 yard net average was the best of his career. >> caller: well, maybe they're not looking for the best punter in vikings history. they're looking for the best punter now. >> stephanie: you're harshing my sparkle pony. thank you for calling. >> the nfl is a business. if you're not performing up to your standards in the last couple of years then -- [farting sounds] >> i'm just saying. >> you and your facts. >> stephanie: i just read the stats. >> those are over eight seasons. >> stephanie: okay. >> which means he had probably an awesome first six and the last two eh. >> stephanie: listen, watching you, minnesota vikings! >> travis has some actual stats. >> stephanie: thank you travis.

okay, get back to otb. no wonder nobody is answering the phones. he's betting the ponies. really? am i supposed to read that? >> i have no idea what the numbers mean. >> stephanie: i'm going to need to study these during the top of the hour break and i will be back with these numbers but they look good to me. i'll have to study that and get back to you with a little information. >> i'll try to find you some and i'll bring them to you. >> stephanie: also when we come back, ricin guy not as entertaining as zubeidat. what a dufus! he bought caster beans on ebay. dufus. >> maybe he thought they were lava beans. >> stephanie: okay. >> you know who else we have? >> stephanie: michael tomasky. i want to date and kiss next on the "daily beast" on "the stephanie miller show."

[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: hello hour number two. michael tomasky of the "daily beast" coming up. jacki schechner, it is a sad day in america when the girls have to bring the football statistics to prove they're right and the girls are wrong. right there. look at that. 2011-2012, chris kluwe's average 45.7 and 45.0, his career average 44.4 making him the best viking in minnesota vikings history. that means he was above average the last two years you moron!

>> i believe you. you don't have to convince me. >> stephanie: thank you. i'm just saying you bring all of the healthcare statistics. i bring football. >> when is the last time you sat down and watched a football game? >> stephanie: never. super bowl party where not one person watched the super bowl. nobody even knew it was playing. we were there for the halftime show. all right. here she is, jacki schechner in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody. the massachusetts medical examiner is ready to release tamerlan tsarnaev's body and his widow katherine russell wants his family to claim it. the 26-year-old boston bombing suspect died in a gunfight with authorities. more than a week ago. but the exact cause of death will not be made public until his remains have been claimed. tsarnaev's parents are still in russia but he has family here in the u.s. and they say they will step up. we're now learning more about tsarnaev's trip to russia last year where he spent six months there. russian agent hts him under

surveillance. police killed a canadian jihadist. his name was william and they think the two men had ties online. plot cov was russian and had traveled to join islamic militants. russian forces picked him up in december of 2010 and according to one media report, when he turned over a list of contacts, tsarnaev's name was on the list but authorities have yet to confirm independently the two men actually communicated online or crossed paths in person. the fbi also looking into tsarnaev's possible connection with a man named mahmoud nardal, the last man you saw there. he is a suspected islamic recruiter who was killed last may. a new abc news "washington post" poll shows seven in ten americans would like to see the other suspect to get the death penalty if convicted. he's charged with using a weapon of mass destruction. we also know in addition to public defenders he's going to

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alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. this show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people but

minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them, right? vo: the war room tonight at 6 eastern >> stephanie: if i've said it once, i've said it a million times, it is hard. it is hard being the smartest person in the room. it really is. all right. i am right once again. chris lavoie, and you are what's the word i'm looking for? wrong! [ buzzer ] >> why am i wrong? >> stephanie: you agreed with the call they're chris kluwe's statistics aren't as good the last couple of years. >> computer says no. >> stephanie: no! i have statistics in front of me. he had -- the best statistics in minnesota vikings history he's the best punter ever with a 44.4

career average. his average in 2011, 45.7 and last year, 2012, 45. so that means -- that would be -- [ applause ] better than his average. which is already the best in minnesota vikings history. >> okay. >> i know nothing about football. >> stephanie: so maybe you should. >> if i did, i would be working for a sports station. [ ♪ magic wand ♪ ] >> stephanie: i've barely recovered from chris kluwe my favorite new writer -- new to me and my favorite who i want to date and kiss on a regular basis. >> michael tomasky of "daily beast." ♪ oh, dear god it must be him ♪ >> stephanie: we've creeped him out already. good morning michael. what are your punting stats? >> well, you know, i try not to punt anything. you made me curious about ray

guy. you may not be old enough. from my youth ray guy of the oakland raiders averaged 42.4 per punt. >> stephanie: michael tomasky bringing the punting statistics on top of the great writing in the "daily beast." i want to date you and kiss you even more. did john fuglesang warn you how creepy i am about you? >> yeah. there was a little taste of that i want to be hugged and kissed. >> stephanie: listen, i honestly love your stuff in the "daily beast." you hit stuff that a lot of people miss. i love this new piece. for the first time black turnout exceeded white turnout in 2012. meanwhile, republicans continue to alienate black voters. it really is incredible. what they're trying to do nationwide while saying they're engaging in minority outreach, right? >> it is amazing. the reason i wrote that piece

stephanie, is that i saw, in most of the coverage of that analysis, it was an analysis "the associated press" did the black turnout for the first time was higher by some measures than white turnout. you know, most of the pieces that wrote this up, ascribed it to simply to obama's presence on the ticket. obviously there's a lot of truth to that, you know. there is no denying that. but i thought that's not the only reason here. black people understand -- africans and latinos understand republicans, you know, voter suppression efforts in half the states in the country are aimed at them. >> stephanie: i love the way you say i invite conservatives to deceive themselves into thinking this is the case, because there is a black guy on the ticket. for all of this talk about a new g.o.p. out to steal minority hearts usually white people seem to forget the republican party is doing more to stop people from voting than george

wallace ever did. >> more than george wallace ever did. you know, it is a more openly racist regime right now than it ever was under richard nixon and his infamous southern strategy. in those days, these things were done quietly. in back rooms and in code and so forth. but now the republican party, in many states in the country arguably, most of them is just openly trying to pass laws that are very clearly aimed at keeping black people from voting. making it harder for them to vote. >> stephanie: today's effort to keep african-americans and latinos from voting is not regional and subterranean. it is national, official with the weight of governors and legislators behind it. unless you think this is going away, the 2012 represented some kind of crest, you're woefully incorrect and you mention our other friend, berman of the nation who tracks these things

so closely state after state and the different things they're doing. >> ary does a great job on this. people who are interested in this issue should read him not me because he writes about it all the time. but yes. there are attempts to curtail early voting hours and you know, all of these kind of identification efforts and many, many more across a broad broad range of states. it is actually expanding. so it is not something the republicans tried once and it didn't really work and they're going to say oh, forget it. this is part of -- this is part of the electoral strategy going forward. >> stephanie: well, you know, michael, as you say i love how it pretty much has imploded spectacularly on them in the last election which is -- i'm sure part of what drove black turnout is you say you know, there can be no serious questions, african-americans watched them with the

bitterrism, the kenyan socialist and said what a bunch of racist loons. but you spotlighted one particular man. this went well beyond obama. how to explain the story of the elderly african-american man in florida which made the rounds, who stood in line until 1:00 a.m. to cast his vote. it was well after obama had been declared the victor. he was likely voting not just for obama as you say but to stuff it to rick scott and the state's g.o.p. which tried to pass an incredibly regressive voting law that the federal law moved out. >> i was moved by that man's story precisely because -- he could have gone home. if all he cared about was obama and we're making assumptions here but it was fair to say he was an obama voter. if all he cared about was obama being elected president, he could have gone home, you know, two hours before. but he stood there and waited to vote. he was making a different point. >> stephanie: they underestimated, i think how very, very seriously people take their right to vote in this country.

maybe particularly black people. because of what they went through to get it, right? >> exactly. they did underestimate it. even i underestimated it in some cases. i remember being really surprised as i looked over the exit polls at the percentage of the vote in ohio, particularly, that was african-american. that was a state where obviously they knew it was going to be close. they knew it might come down to ohio. and boy people really got out and voted in massive numbers. >> stephanie: as the president pointed out people should not have to wait in line for -- for ten hours whatever. as you say story after story of elderly people that waited in line for hours upon hours right? >> yeah. you know, this is some reporting i've never seen done and it is probably hard if not kind of impossible to do. short of just going around on election day and counting the machines. but i just wonder how many machines per voter there are in poor black neighborhoods as

opposed to more affluent white neighborhoods. you just have to assume, right that in a more affluent white suburb, there are more machines per thousand voters. >> stephanie: i told the story on election day. it took me probably 45 seconds to vote. i mean i literally went in, no line, voted, out. and then i turn on the tv to look at the stories around the country. in florida ten hours some people in line. it was unbelievable. >> you're not only white but affluent, right? >> stephanie: affluent enough to vote in 45 seconds apparently. [ laughter ] but you talk about how they may be deceiving themselves. at huff po, black voter turnout passes whites in 2012 election. "the daily caller" says report 2004 turnout numbers would have elected romney. you invite them to go back in time and be nostalgic where all they need is just nominate

someone who can crank up the white community and their problem is solved. >> there will undoubtedly be people who will make that argument. we'll see this play out over the next few weeks on capitol hill. if they go toward a vote on the immigration bill. and i suspect it will probably pass because i think republicans probably feel more republicans than not probably feel that they need to -- if they kill this bill, then they're finished with latinos for another generation. but i don't think a majority of republicans are going to support it. especially in the house. you might get a majority of republicans in the senate. maybe. but you're not -- i don't think you'll get anything close to a majority in the house. >> stephanie: well, you already have them screaming because of boston, because of a couple of chechnyan dufuses you've gotta make sure no more mexicans come in.

it makes no sense right. >> exactly. i still -- i would bet today by about 60-40, that it will pass. because it will get virtually all democratic votes and then in the house, it will just need a smallish number of republican votes. even so, if there are what, 230 something republicans if 40 republicans in the house vote for that bill and 190 vote against, that still press wages a debate about how far they should go down that road, you know. >> stephanie: my favorite part of your piece on this and it is always hard to pick a favorite. but when you talk about you know, the voter suppression efforts across the country. you say do republicans really think black and brown people just won't notice all of this? republicans don't actually talk to black people. they talk to black republicans but that's like evangelicals talking to juice for jesus and thinking they've gauged jewish

opinion so they have no way of knowing how disingenuous they look. you're missing -- >> that's pretty good. >> stephanie: isn't it awesome? [ laughter ] but yeah, you know, you close with the point you made earlier. republican party is thus more officially racist than it was in nixon's day. at least they had jackie robinson and sammi davis jr. back then and they did thing via code and not the law. >> yeah. i'm old enough to remember sammy davis' controversial embrace of nixon in the 1972 campaign so i thought i would throw that in there. but yes these are -- these are official policies of the republican party. all over the country. and they're very clearly racist and intent. >> stephanie: as you say, it was not so brazen as to think it could on one hand be waging

efforts in half the states to keep black people from voting and on the other hand be improving its quote-unquote outreach. so, as you say even when black vote dips when obama retires if republicans keep insisting on these tactics, they're going to keep losing by the same margin in the black vote, right? >> maybe not quite the same margin but you know, they'll never crack 10%. and of course, they'll get a lot of black entertainers up there on the stage. that will make up for everything. >> stephanie: always the hardest job. the cameraman at the convention when someone mentions minorities, trying to find one in the crowd at the republican convention. you can feel the white-knuckle panic. i think -- even back when george bush was in, i remember a statistic. didn't he have 2% approval rating with black voters which we were saying is within the margin of error. >> functionally, zero. >> stephanie: brings the possibility of black people -- maybe poltergeist or the unborns that hated him as well.

michael tomasky, what a pleasure. you know i'm going to pester you endlessly now. >> you know where to get me. >> stephanie: you have fed the puppy now. i'll follow you home. >> great great great. >> stephanie: thank you michael. talk to you again soon. [ applause ] yea, another dream come true. 18 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> i got her number off the men's room stall. 1-800-steph-12. compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

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>> stephanie: the point you made about chris kluwe. do you need anything? i'm like not from you. >> i'm the last person to provide you with what you need. >> stephanie: in any way. 1-800-steph-12. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: christopher in minneapolis on chris kluwe. hello, chris. >> caller: hi, mama. how are you? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: listen, i have a quick point about chris. you're absolutely correct. we love chris here in minnesota. we don't want to see him go anywhere. i'm a long-time season ticket holder. not only is chris statistically the best kicker in vikings history but also the highest paid kicker in vikings history. i think it is jumping the gun.

to think that they may be doing this because of his outspokenness. i hope that i'm right about that. >> stephanie: chris, you raise a valid business point. however, you know, a couple of -- you know, the vikings management have spoken out about his outspokenness and activism. so it makes you suspicious. >> it is hard to not be suspicious. i will be calling the team immediately. i will rescind my season tickets if that's the reason that they're going to get rid of him. i won't support the team. >> stephanie: they won't say that. but when you have the punting -- saying i wish he would focus on his punting. he is. number one. he's even above his career average the last two seasons. >> exactly. he's a rock star. no question about it. >> stephanie: they haven't even talked to him about this. this punting coach said oh well, you know, he won't listen. it is like how do you know someone won't listen unless you

talk to them? >> did they ever talk to you before they fire you stephanie? >> stephanie: no. >> stephanie: that will be on my gravestone. she did not see that coming! [ laughter ] i never see anything coming. >> in radio they never -- no! [ laughter ] >> you don't get a briefing telling you that -- someone's planning -- >> you never get a final two days to broadcast. >> stephanie:et this that one time. they lived to regret it. arnold in north carolina, would you like a final show to be gracious? sure. hello. >> caller: hi, mama. how you doing this morning? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: listen, steph the comment to the last gentleman about the vote that's going on, suppression of the black vote. it is very true and very timely. in my state we have a supermajority of republicans just got in there. now we've got a governor who is

a republican there and they're passing all kind of crazy rules. reverend william just got out of jail for civil disobedience, trying to go up against this strong wave of voter suppression. stephanie, i'll repeat my vow. you know my vow. before i vote for a republican, i would rather slide down a 50 foot razor blade into a cool tub of alcohol. >> stephanie: thank you arnold. i appreciate that. all right. at least he's a man of principles. ow! okay. let's go to -- that made us all snap our stinkers shut. teresa, you're on. >> caller: hey steph. hi crew. >> stephanie: i have working girl flashbacks whenever i say island. >> caller: staten island. i was watching a segment of "60

minutes" awhile back and they had this guy on named frank lunds. i'm sure you're familiar with him. he was like giving rules as to what words they should use and what words they shouldn't use. he's the main reason the republican party has been so successful because they will take affordable care and make it into obama care. and if you ask someone a republican, do you want obama care, they'll say no but if you ask them if they want affordable care, they'll say yes. >> stephanie: is the president for it? yes. well then, i'm against it. that's exactly what it is. >> they put obama on -- they say obama care and it automatically turns the person against it. they have even disparaged liberals so badly i call myself a progressive. >> stephanie: that's why we took back that word with the sexy liberal show. you won't make it a dirty word for me. all right. the president was talking about -- because of course, i think pretty combative questions

and he -- because they talked about -- they asked him about how come obamacare is not being implemented, blah, blah, blah. he said you've got half congress determined to block implementation and not adequately funding. there are republican governors who know it is bad politics to implement it effectively. the caller was just saying, it is anti-obama. that's all it is. he said i cannot force republicans to embrace common sense solutions. i can urge them to. i can put pressure on them and rally the american people around the common sense solutions. ultimately, they'll have to say we want to do the right thing. which will happen right after hell freezes over. all right. rugby star, australian rugby star turned actor ian roberts the first player everier to come out. >> first professional athlete to ever come out. >> we'll talk to him next on "the stephanie miller show."

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>> most guys don't have the balls to go after -- >> stephanie miller. >> despite her reputation for being naughty. >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 34 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. obviously a lot of talk around the world about jason collins coming out being the first professional american athlete to come out. however, he's way ahead of us. time zones and every other way australian rugby star turned actor, ian roberts is in australia where it is insane o'clock. >> 12:30 in the morning. >> stephanie: it is literally tomorrow. good morning ian. thanks so much for taking time

for us. >> it is lovely to be with you stephanie. thank you. >> stephanie: wowee. we're way behind. the rest of the world is way ahead of us. you came out in 1995, right? >> yeah, actually came out in the advocate magazine which is an australian -- i'm sorry an american gay magazine. it was followed by the australian press. long time go in a galaxy far far away. >> stephanie: so what was it like for you -- this must be something to watch this 18 years later, to look at this happening in america for the first time, huh? >> i think it is fantastic. it is a journey. there's never a right time or a wrong time. it is whenever someone is feeling good enough about themselves to take that step. i think for me, years ago

playing professional team sport me being gay was probably the worst kept secret in rugby. the australian press were kind to me. they never asked me about my private life all the time i was a professional player even though it was widely known i was gay. in '95, i was asked the question by -- as i said, the advocate. i said yeah, i'm gay. so it wasn't a real issue for me that way. the australian public was fantastic. there was no negativity. it was great. >> stephanie: wow. i was going to say interesting because you know, obviously there's also that -- not just rugby but even australia, there is that rugged, masculine image that we have. but i mean it sounds like they're a lot farther ahead than we are in america on this issue. >> well, i mean i would like to say that but politically, we're not really.

the u.s. is talking about same-sex marriage and equality here. australia is still lagging very much in that area which saddens me. but it is things like jason's done here. also multimedia and availability of all of the networks. there's a lot more out there. it is much more accepted. younger people don't seem to have the problem that definitely younger people had 15, 20 years ago. there is more of it on tv. yeah. >> stephanie: ian, out how your life change or did it when you came out? what was it like for you? >> it was the worst kept secret in rugby. i've been taking my partner to all of the functions and

socially for a long time before i came out publicly. so nothing really changed for me. that way. i mean it continued. i went on to cape tain my club -- to captain my club team. like i said, it didn't -- it didn't have the shame it may carry with it. >> stephanie: somebody said there are two kinds of coming out. there is wow and duh. sounds like you were a duh. >> yeah, very much. >> i love the expression. >> stephanie: you know, i'm actually looking at a piece on salon.com on jason collins coming out. it says at the risk of reducing one man's major life decision to a sociology experiment,cologiens is a test case everyone has been waiting for.

at least here in america right. collins forces discussions about all of the hypotheticals how our players deal with a gay teammate in the locker room. will the insertion of a gay athlete change the discourse about gay rights. what do you think about all of that in terms of how it is going to play out here? >> it is interesting. i've been living in l.a. for three years and i've been in side for a month. >> stephanie: my producer said look at the picture of ian. he goes to my gym. i said let me guess. smokin' hot. >> thank you. the whole thing -- i mean there were some players that were uncomfortable with my presence in the locker room at times. but my -- don't flatter

yourself. it is like -- you know. we're mature, grown people here. you'll always have that type of -- but anyone where they're out publicly and talking openly about their sexuality it has moved beyond that anyway. >> stephanie: i would think that's what i was saying yesterday about jason collins is you think they have to realize oh, i've been showering with a gay guy for how many years and he hasn't hit on me. >> hardly. it is almost like gay men are all -- or all gay people are just -- we're craved. it is almost ridiculous. >> stephanie: yeah. ian, tell me what are you working on actingwise? i didn't realize you were here in l.a. >> i've been doing some stuff for the sci-fi channel.

>> stephanie: you'll be employed again because you're smokin' hot and awesome. thank you for taking time for us. >> thank you. >> stephanie: see ya on the bench press. [ applause ] >> stephanie: the question remains, what the heck is rugby. >> you've never seen -- >> stephanie: i know. i've seen it. >> kind of like american football. >> it is like the predecessor to american football. >> a lot of lateral passing and no pads. pretty much everybody has a mangled nose. >> american football is -- >> stephanie: not ian roberts. >> his nose has been broken. you can tell. >> stephanie: doesn't matter. hot! >> rugged look, if you will. >> i believe travis when he saw his be picture said howly darely. >> stephanie: we were talking about the president's press conference. i just found the questioner somewhat combative especially when you're basing your premise on lindsey graham's vapors.

lindsey graham says. he also -- one questioner asked do you still have the juice to get the rest of your agenda through this congress? really? not that these are the most intransigent bunch of douches we've ever had in the congress. so really it is the president's lack of juice. that's the reason we're not getting anything done. he said if you put it that way maybe i should pack up and go home golly! >> i find him adorable. totes adorbs. >> someone quoted that directly. they actually said -- he actually said he's going to pack up and go home. >> stephanie: rumors may be a little bit exaggerated. i thought it really was a great smackdown about the whole boston thing and lindsey graham when he said he's wrong on this. really? oh national security has deteriorated under my wash? we discussed this last hour. but really? we had the worst security failure in our history and george bush still didn't catch the guy who did it on his watch?

two dufuses do something that, you know off the internet that is not part of -- and the russians don't share the actual intelligence with us and it has deteriorated. >> what about benghazi? >> we'll always have benghazi. >> obama: the question then is was there something that happened that triggered radicalization and actual decision by the brother to engage in the attack -- the tragic attack we saw in boston. and are there things -- additional things that could have been done in that interim that might have prevented them? >> stephanie: except i'm announcing now i'm appointing tom cruise so he can find out who will commit crimes in the future. the fbi interviewed him. how are they supposed to know one dufus who learned something off the internet is going to do something when he's not part of a larger network or plot. particularly when the russians didn't share everything that they actually knew about the

conversations with you know who. zubeidat. >> you don't need to know. >> stephanie: exactly because we were on a need-to-know basis. they just said -- telling us all of the details is all i'm saying. all right. the president. >> obama: based on what i've seen so far the fbi performed its duties, department of homeland security did what it was supposed to be doing. but this is hard stuff. >> stephanie: yeah. just a little. and the president one more time about the attack. >> obama: is there, in fact, additional protocols and procedures that could be put in place that would further improve and enhance our ability to stop a potential attack. and we won't know that until that review is completed.

>> stephanie: by the way, i don't know if you noticed it, the white house correspondents' dinner, i'm glad the president took it to maureen dowd. charlie pierce and i talked about how irritating this article was. obama took note of a column by maureen dowd who criticized the white house for not deploying pitbull legislative aides to depict votes liking michael douglas did in the movie the american president. no one likes the world to be more like the american president than me. >> we don't know the difference. >> stephanie: exactly my point, jim. obama joked michael what's your secret? could it be you were an actor in an alan sorkin liberal fantasy? [ applause ] thank you. we talk to hot brie, melissa fitzgerald about this. some people go oh, why isn't it like the west wing? because it's not written by alan sorkin. republicans don't get their lines from alan sorkin. they're douche nozzles. 45 minutes after the hour.

i'm in a state today. >> are you! you need some smelling salts and a fainting couch? >> stephanie: i haven't even gotten started on the plan b thing. 45 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> this is the dirtiest show -- [ laughter ] >> i have ever been on in all of my life. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." his ability, is trying to look out for us.

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him. he talked about that for months later. i made should you are to get meet and grope because i wanted to thank you in person. you, john and hal were kind. that night was one of the greatest nights of my life. although i no longer get to enjoy the podcast with my best friend by my side, it made me feel close to him. laughter helps ease it through the tough times. all three of you totes adorbs. she told me and now she made me cry again. i will tell hal and tell hal in just a moment. anyway that's what the sexy liberal family is like. awesome people like that including macaroni, the official rapper of "the stephanie miller show." ♪ ♪ i need help, mama ♪ you told me that you love me ♪ ♪ sexy liberal ♪ ♪ she gave me two tickets to a grope to the show ♪

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maybe post a link on facebook. we did that. steph heads can take me over the top. may 7th is the final stretch. i promise to represent my sexy liberal family. wolf pack, an organization, they're trying to get the citizens united turned around to get dirty money out of politics. they have given in his own special link at votewolftag.com. vote for macaroni. >> or go to "the stephanie miller show" facebook page and the link is right there. >> stephanie: sorry about that young mc. >> was it young mc? >> yes, it was. >> stephanie: i dumped him like yesterday's news. i'm so sorry. >> young mc has only called him once. >> jim made a joke he's not so young and he was listening. he lives in phoenix and he called. macaroni did stuff for me. >> apparently you went to usc

with young mc. >> stephanie: i don't remember it. i'm so old. devin in washington, d.c., you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: how are you stephanie? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. kale i was calling because i heard the piece earlier about the voter i.d. laws. i was just wondering why do republicans think that liberals -- us liberals can't see through this. african-americans and latinos can't see through this facade that they put up. they tell the constituents, you know we're doing this to stop illegal immigrants from voting but why would an illegal immigrant take that risk to vote knowing they may risk being exposed, you know. back to where they came from. so it is like -- the argument is so flimsy. and the republican party history is really starting with the southern strategy. the republicans, they say the southern strategy never existed. mehlman apologized for it.

so why would he apologize for something that didn't exist? >> stephanie: thank you. yes. he also apologized for the unfortunate gay bashing that took place in the -- was it the 2004 election cycle? but whatever. little late but we'll take it. yeah. it seems like under's underestimating the greatest threat. that is illegal immigrants that can read upside down trying to impersonate chris lavoie in order to vote. thank you. have you gotten over your voter i.d. stuff yet? >> haven't you gotten the memo? i changed my mind on that. i changed it a couple of years ago. >> stephanie: i thought i would beat it out of you. >> i thought carefully about it. >> stephanie: you thought carefully about whether your -- >> you're fired -- >> you still have the juice to get the rest of your agenda through this congress. >> you put it that way jonathan. maybe i should just pack up and go home. golly.

i think it is a little -- as mark twain said, rumors of my demise may be a little exaggerated at this point. i feel confident that the bipartisan work that's been done on immigration reform will result in a bill that passes the senate. passes the house and gets on my desk. >> i think that there is plenty of support for the president. >> not jews. juice. >> stephanie: we were talking about that mother. >> yeah, you have the juice. what did i say? >> stephanie: remember that -- we talked about the mother yesterday that wanted the anne franks diary removed from her daughter's curriculum because of the naughty word anne talks about discovering her naughty bits. steven in chicago asked do you know who else was trying to suppress anne franks' diary? >> don't even need to say it. [ applause ] >> stephanie: okay. let's go to sheila in new york.

you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi sheila. >> caller: hey. so i'm the official portable pole of "the stephanie miller show". because -- can you hear me? >> stephanie: yes. >> caller: okay because today's my birthday. may 1st and i'll polish and i just want to tell you -- >> stephanie: you're a may pole. >> caller: yes. i just want to tell you guys how much i love you and how you make -- still what can sometimes be dark days, full of joy. >> stephanie: thank you. happy, happy joy joy to you and happy birthday. >> caller: thank you. >> stephanie: the portable pole. moving again. 58 minutes after the hour. we have sexy liberal hal sparks coming up at the top of the hour. we'll talk about the plan b. don't get me started. really? i have the vapors. right back on "the stephanie miller show."

>> stephanie: all right. tv land hour number three. sexy liberal hal sparks coming up. jacki schechner? >> i feel malnourished, steph. >> stephanie: because i'm hogging the man meat. >> there is no good eye candy today. what good is man meat if it is all on the phone. >> stephanie: you're so visual tv girl. just to have a little theatre of the minds. you must have had the same reaction i did when the president was asked about obamacare or patient and he's like when you have half the

congress trying not to implement it or trying to cut funding and republican governors that, you know, don't want to implement it effectively then here we go, they blame him. >> i'm glad it came up yesterday. we'll talk about it a little bit in the news break. i'm glad he brought it up yesterday. obviously as we get closer and closer to full implementation, we'll be talking about it a lot more. >> stephanie: we're at the time to fully implement the news with jacki schechner in the current news center. here she is. >> good morning, everybody. facebook founder mark zuckerberg is coming underfire from some environmental groups like the sierra club and 350.org for action ds promoting fossil fuels. two subsidiaries of zuckerberg's political action committee are running ads. one is republican. another democratic. the ads are in support of the keystone pipeline and drilling in alaska. he formed his pac to work on national immigration reform and it gives money to its partner's subsidiaries but at the same time it's letting the organizations make its own

political decisions. two of the organizations are running ads promoting the pipeline and drilling in order to prop up lawmakers who would also support immigration. they will deliver a petition today with 19,000 signatures to facebook headquarters asking zuckerburg get rid of the tv ads. >> you can take an early look at how to apply for financial health and affording health insurance next year. president obama once again yesterday described the basic idea behind the new state health insurance exchanges. >> obama: what we're doing is we're setting up a pool so that they can all pool together and get a better deal from insurance companies. and those who can't afford it, we're going to provide them with some subsidies. that's it. >> so simple. the short form online. you can take a look. three pages long for individuals. all 33 states that have decided to let the federal government run their exchanges will use the same form. the family form, a little longer. it is 11 pages. and good news today as the

very first day of the george w. bush presidential library and museum officially open to the public today. i say we take a road trip. we're back after the break. high. cenk uygur: i think the number one thing viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. i think the audience gets that i actually mean it. michael shure: this show is about being up to date so a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. joy behar: you can say anything here. jerry springer: i spent a couple of hours with a hooker joy behar: your mistake was writing a check jerry springer: she never cashed it (vo) the day's events. four very unique points of view. tonight starting at 6 eastern. they think this world isn't big enough for the both of them. but we assure you - it is. bites. little greatness.

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>> stephanie: you can e-mail us all, chris lavoie, jim ward, stephanie miller. you were wrong and i was right. >> i know nothing about american football. >> stephanie: then shot your pothole. that's what melissa fitzgerald's nephew calls it. he has been better the last two

years -- he's the best punter in minnesota vikings history. he's better than average the last two years. anyway watching you minnesota vikings. if he gets cut because of being such an outspoken straight ally of the gay community. i say hooray. i talked to him earlier. >> you talked to two hunky sports guys. >> right. >> stephanie: speaking of sports related statistics, would you like fun facts just for the heck of it? we used to have a station in miami. i worked in south florida radio for 30 years. i get a kick out of what happened to wynz which used to be steph's station. we did very well there. very well in miami. you'll have to scroll down to the very bottom. it has a 0.2 share. there it is. nothing like watching something fail after you leave. there it is. wow. very last. very last. very last station in the market. >> seems like a dumb business decision.

>> stephanie: wowee good luck to yas. these are not so fun facts. this is why -- wow, look at travis. eddie haskell out there supplying me with the embassy bombing statistics. all right. just kidding. okay. i was mentioning because i had to go on cnn yesterday and because lindsey graham said something, it becomes the topic. let's talk about the president's benghazi problem. what do you think about the president's benghazi problem? whatever! [ whatever! ] >> he's been eating too much broccoli? gassy problem? sorry, what? >> stephanie: that was the president's two snaps up in a circle. it was like oh. lindsey graham says national security has -- >> obama: mr. graham is not right on this issue. although i'm sure it generated some headlines. i think that what we saw in boston was state local federal officials. every agency rallying around a

city that had been attacked. identifying the perpetrators, just hours after the scene had been examined. we now have one individual deceased. one in custody. charges have been brought. >> complete failure. >> stephanie: meanwhile i mentioned on cnn yesterday about how often does this happen under bush? it is because literally lindsey graham and john mccain live in the green room at "meet the press." this is like -- then there's like there is a cover-up. because victoria -- some republican attorney said they're obstructing the investigation into benghazi. >> what was she famous for before? i know she was in the news. >> stephanie: i'll think about it. she's a very partisan attorney. patrick in l.a. writes steph, where was all of

the -- he's talking about embassy bombings under bush. where was all of the concern for our men and women serving in embassies and consulates across the globe when all of the other attacks and killings occurred like when the embassy in pakistan was attacked and ten were killed or in 2004 when the u.s. embassy in us tech stand were killed and -- in uzbekistan and in 2004, the u.s. consulate in saudi arabia was stormed and eight people lost their lives. in 2006, armed men attacked the u.s. embassy in syria. one was murdered. 2007, grenade thrown in athens. serbia, set on fire. 2008 bombings at the u.s. embassy in yemen killed ten. notice all of the dates before the obama administration. tell that to lindsey graham. that would make him permanently on the fainting couch. >> i bombed the wrong country. >> victoria was involved in the valerie plame. she filed an am us could brief saying valerie plame's cover

couldn't have possibly been blown by scooter libby. >> stephanie: here's well-known southern belle lindsey graham. >> it is not so much about blaming people as it is -- four overseas four at home. one is dead. radical islam is on the march. we need to up our game. clearly to me, the system did not work the way it was supposed to. i'm shocked that this happened after 9-11 where people no longer talk to each other. i thought we had gotten over that. >> i'm shocked we didn't arrest everybody wearing a baseball cap with a backpack. we should have known. should have looked in your crystal ball and see there are some bad bad -- >> stephanie: okay. two dufuses learned to use a kitchen appliance off the internet. not connected to a larger terrorist plot. russia doesn't share all of the intelligence with us that they have and i love that. it is not about blaming people. it is the black guy's fault.

speak of racist -- travis says please, we've been offered donald trump. >> computer says no. >> no. >> stephanie: no! no thanks, i've heard enough. >> it would be huge. i have huge thoughts. they're all wrong but they're huge. >> stephanie: thanks for that, travis. did you book him? >> you're fired! >> stephanie: aaron in ann arbor, your even "the stephanie miller show". >> caller: hi, steph, how are you? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: i'm kind of stunned how -- i really wonder is there anything that obama could do that would cause you to turn on him? >> stephanie: well sure. would you like to argue hypotheticals? someone said i would defend him if he blew up an orn -- orphanage. my usual claim about people that

have your view on things would be as obama is using his dicttorial powers under the bush executive orders that were never rescinded, if he was dragging you guys away, if you -- >> what? >> stephanie: okay, that would cause me to turn away from president obama. >> i criticize him for the drone strikes. yes, we got some bad guys but every time we kill be in the civilians, we create more bad guys. >> stephanie: i have defended drone strikes because i think they're preferable to illegal and unnecessary wars. but all right. go ahead aaron. >> caller: okay. you know i hope you're willing to delve into that. let's talk about the legitimacy of drone strikes to get bad guys. other than anwar al-awlaki --

>> stephanie: that's the only good drone we've ever sent. >> caller: okay, now listen. 20,000 or so drones, do you know a single name of any other -- >> stephanie: of course not and neither do you. aaron -- do you think the president is going to drag us to the goolog? >> caller: i want a legitimate discussion. not a subversion technique to drag me off to a tangent to suppress the truth. any time the truth is to the left of you. can i say what i'm trying to say. >> stephanie: i'm suppressing the truth? all right. fortunately my good, happy clappy friend is here. we have located him in kansas. >> what's that heavy breathing i hear? why, could it be? ♪ the humpty dance ♪ >> hump days with hal sparks. >> yes, yes!

>> stephanie: my knight in shining armor for saving me for from that man, hal sparks. >> i'm sorry i missed the beginning. he was convinced that you were trying to use other techniques in conversation to get him off of his point. did you play a fart sound? >> stephanie: it's parent i will be defending the president even when he is dragging you and i off to the goolog. >> oh, i see. because of the rights to kill an american on american soil that it was said was not legal. unless that person was actively involved in a violent act against the president? >> stephanie: right. >> and that guy's hero rand paul said it would be cool if he walked with his $150 and not mention whether he had stolen it or anything. notice that what rand paul said. he never actually said -- >> stephanie: ron paul or rand? >> rand.

when he doubled back on his drone strikes thing he said i don't care if they use it for a guy coming out of a liquor store. well, that's half the people in texas. that guy didn't steal anything. he is cool with killing those people. the point is that this was not a concern they think it is but it is a great device. >> i actually have to take off because i have a gig. i'm glad hal is here to cover for me. i gotta skedaddle. >> all right. you'll be sorely missed again. i'll try to do the best i can. the best turtle i can. >> stephanie: hal sparks can you hold on? he holds on with us. it is hump days with hal sparks. you want me to do this here? or when i come back. thank you so much. back with hal sparks next on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: the following program is closed-captioned for

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lindsay graham says something and then it becomes a topic. let's talk about the president's benghazi problem. the closing of gitmo is more popular than it was then. >> stephanie: i'm glad you brought that up. here is the president talking about gitmo yesterday. >> obama: i'm going to go back at this. i've asked my team to review everything being done in guantanamo, everything we can do administratively and i'll re-engage with congress to try to make the case that this is not something that's in the best interest of the american people. our friends on the left say he

promised he would close gitmo. once again an issue where some democrats abandoned him as well. >> on my saturday show, i ragged the executive order outloud. you can go to whitehouse.gov and read it. the one he signed and sent to congress. you know why gitmo isn't closed? because there were senators and house republicans who were against the transfer -- literally would not appropriate the funds to transfer people at gitmo to the states, period. they have to stay there until you can pay to get them moved. >> stephanie: hal, it is the same lack of courage you know, on the part of some democrats even that led to background checks failing. in the senate, right? >> hal: that's done great by the polling numbers. there's that. 12% to 15% drop in the polling numbers in a lot of cases. it is nice. the tide is turning. especially with gitmo i think the awareness of the american people that he did sign an

executive order to shut it down and congress not only stopped it at the time but has been manufacturing reasons to delay it ever since. >> stephanie: look at the tenor of the questions at this press conference yesterday. do you still have the juice to get the rest of your agenda through congress rather than -- why is this congress the most -- in history? >> i get it. juice. o.j. the president is black. o.j. simpson is black. we're all a giant -- is that what you're saying? >> stephanie: yes exactly. let's listen to the president one more time on gitmo. >> obama: it is not a surprise to me we have problems in guantanamo. which is why when i was campaigning in 2007 and 2008, and when i was elected in 2008, i said we need to close guantanamo. i continue to believe that we've got to close guantanamo. i think -- well, you know, i think it is critical for us to

understand that guantanamo is not necessary to keep america safe. it is expensive. it is inefficient. it hurts us in terms of our international standing. it lessens cooperation with our allies on counter-terrorism efforts. it is a recruitment tool for extremists. it needs to be closed. >> stephanie: i mean, hal this is exactly -- he talked about, of course, they criticize him about boston. really? we caught them within three days. one is dead. one is in jail. based on incomplete intelligence from russia. and yet it is still -- they try to cast it as an obama failure right? >> hal: right. again, you have to take it in context though because those people throwing the criticisms think thats someone associated with chechens and russia attack you, you can probably bomb

yugoslavia. >> stephanie: or greece. >> we should launch an attack on greece immediately. it is going to get narrower and narrower. there were two areas where republicans have a huge lead. that's, of course, immigration because of american's fear of the march of mexicans across the border and national security. and they're losing on both fronts. the president has more deportations than -- i think the last three presidents combined probably. and yet is doing more to aid people who are trying to make a living here and trying to become american citizens. he's got them over a barrel that way. the same thing applies to national security. osama bin laden al-qaeda decimated -- i'm sure it was shocking to these folks that this had nothing to do with al-qaeda. even remotely. experiments these guys thought they were being involved in. it wasn't even that they were

attached to al-qaeda. they're having a hard time. that's why we'll be hearing a lot about benghazi because you know, there are a lot of people -- i mean it is a youtube frenzy. it used to be we had to deal with the tea party faction of the republican party. we're now dealing with the youtube faction. >> stephanie: exactly. we've got about a minute left. obviously the big story as someone gay adjacent, straight ally for so many years, another huge thing in jason collins coming out this week, right? >> hal: yeah. amazing. i think it is a great thing. i think it is funny that i've heard repeatedly, you know, the first professional athlete and then there's all of these things on the news like the gay athlete and i hear backpedal from other news organizations. the first of the major four sports because never mind billie jean king or the occasional diver. >> or martina navratilova.

especially the world of basketball. the reality is they should leave the word in there because there is a lot of them. i won't go with the majority but it is close. >> stephanie: let's see. do you think it this is going to open the door? >> absolutely. no question. i think the response was a mature one for the most part. you had a couple of idiots. that's the statistical average you're going to deal with in a country of 30 million people. one espn host against every major sports star, you know, odds i will take. that's a great thing. >> stephanie: we won that jump ball. hal sparks, i love you. all right. kansas. hal sparks is in kansas. right back on "the stephanie miller show."

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>> i'm being cast in the role of bad girl, oddly titillating. >> stephanie: 34 minutes after the hour. we busted her out of the newsroom. we have a breaking news situation. ♪ ooh ooh ♪ ♪ jacki's news ♪ >> stephanie: hello, jacki schechner. what's going on in boston? >> the police department tweeted out they've got three more suspects that have been taken into custody in the marathon bombing case. >> stephanie: three additional arrests. we have no idea? >> "the boston globe" are reporting the three are connected to dzhokhar tsarnaev but the only reports we're getting on that are from "the

boston globe" so far. so we're waiting to hear on more details from official sources. that's what they're saying. >> stephanie: the first thing i thought of was katherine russell, tamerlan's wife, she's obviously under scrutiny after the female dna was found on one of the parts of the bomb. >> it looks like these three are students and what they're saying is they allegedly helped him after the bombing so i don't know what the official charges would be. we're just waiting for the official information but interesting they pushed this out on twitter a few moments ago. everyone is waiting for more detail. >> stephanie: plus they don't know about the female dna going through analysis. it could have been a salesclerk who sold the pressure cooker. it could have been a victim. >> they took dna and fingerprints from katherine russell but the developments on that part today is that the medical examiner in massachusetts is ready to release tamerlan tsarnaev's bod of body and katherine russell doesn't want it. she wants his family to take it

instead. >> stephanie: what starts as a dark comedy bit becomes true. it is weekend at tamerlan's at this point. the uncle -- she said she wants -- the uncle is the one who first said this. the body has been at the medical examiner's office for more than a week. his family will get it now that his wife has agreed. >> she has to sign the forms to release it that she doesn't want it. i think the family will take it because the parents are still in russia. they're not able to claim it. >> stephanie: presumably take him water skiing. in a convertible with his mirrored sunglasses. >> stephanie: i don't want it. you take it. wow. that's just interesting. we'll see. >> there is a good word for it. >> stephanie: i mean that's like -- this is pure speculation now. in some way if she was involved, is that like the way to -- also cast suspicion away from her? she wants nothing to do with even the body? >> i don't know. it is hard to speculate at this

point. you think if she didn't know anything about it, she would be mortified and not want anything to do with it. if she did know something about it, maybe there is some sort of intention behind it. it is hard to know. i certainly don't want to accuse somebody of being involved. it is entirely possible she had no idea. it doesn't sound like they had a super tight relationship. >> stephanie: let's just say. >> what are you doing down there? >> nothing. >> stephanie: you're not making bombs out of pressure cookers, right? looking at porn, don't worry. >> stephanie: the morning after pill. the government is moving the morning after pill over the counter. >> any reason in particular you want to talk to me about this? >> stephanie: no reason. no reason. >> not suggesting anything at all. >> stephanie: it is a little bit of a chick issue. it is also a health -- >> female friend? >> stephanie: exactly. the official heterosexual female friend of "the stephanie miller show." but it is also -- you know, it is a women's health issue

right? >> yes. >> stephanie: they're moving it over the counter but only those 15 and older can buy it. attempt to find middle ground to lift all age restrictions which i think they should do. don't you? emergency contraceptive. it is not an abortion pill. >> this gets into a tricky conversation because i'm not so sure you should be having sex that young. anyway. should save it until you're in love. >> stephanie: aww! >> so row mant cal from jacki schechner. i think is tricky because first of all, you've got young girls who may or may not have identification. if you don't have a driver's license at that age. wouldn't have identify fox show at the counter. it is a tricky thing for young girls to purchase but it should be available and accessible. i just don't know that you should force a girl to have to show identification for it. i'm not so sure that's the right

way to go. >> stephanie: when we were kids, i didn't have i.d., did you, until you were 16 and had a driver's license. >> not a legal i.d. >> stephanie: i always looked like 45 so i was able to buy hootch without i.d. >> i still get carted for everything. i think it is just guys trying to make me feel good. i don't think it is legitimate. >> stephanie: i've been victim of many a pity carding. >> for what? >> stephanie: booze. i'm like oh bless your heart. >> you don't need i.d. for doritos. you can just buy those. >> stephanie: i can tell a pity carding. i'm like oh, please. >> when they say can i see your i.d., ma'am? >> stephanie: hey miss daisy before they drive you home, can i see i.d. before you buy that hootch? >> do your grandkids know you're out of the house? >> stephanie: plan b is sold

behind pharmacy counters now. buyers must prove they're 17 and older or else see a doctor first. obviously a judge said earlier this month he blasted the obama administration actually for imposing the age 17 limit saying politics trumped science and was making it hard forewomen of any age to obtain the emergency contraception in time. you need to take it right away. >> there is a very important fact. i say this every time we talk about this. it is not the abortion pill. it doesn't terminate a pregnancy. it just stops the possibility of somebody getting pregnant if there's that possibility. >> stephanie: don't we want that? that's exactly it. this is not encouraging girls that young to have sex. it is obviously saying that, you know who wouldn't want -- you would think that even if you're pro-life or pro-choice, you would be for this. >> it has to come with education. that's what's the most important thing. when we give sex ed and we teach

kids about their own sexual health we need to teach that this is obviously an option that's available should there be some sort of emergency situation but it is not to be used -- it shouldn't, i think ethically be used as a -- well -- unprotected sex. let me use this. >> the judge ordered an end to all age restrictions by monday. that's the fight here is obviously a woman's group that sued over the age limit said the action is not enough. it will continue -- the court fight if necessary. they said lowering the age limit may reduce delays for some young women but does nothing to reduce the barriers that far too many women will find if they arrive at the drugstore without i.d. >> is it a comparable argument to say let's force young men under the age of 15 or young men at the age of 15 to show i.d. to buy condoms? is it comparable to say that? there is an embarrassment factor or -- shouldn't be but there is an uncomfortableness to having to show identification when you go to purchase something

personal like that. if you're going to force young girls to show i.d., we should force young boys to do the same. >> stephanie: i'm embarrassed to buy tampons. >> that's why god invented self-checkout. >> not that i know this personally but at the drugstore in certain drugstores, there is that plastic barrier over the family planning section. so when you go to buy condoms you have to -- they have to open it for you. there is a little alarm that goes off. >> stephanie: someone needs to open the whore section someone who has a key to the whore section. >> there's that moment that you're standing there looking at someone else. >> stephanie: what are you doing later? oh i already know. jacki schechner, get back on the breaking news out of boston. >> working on it. got it, guys. >> stephanie: she'll have more at the top of the hour. the women's health said they're insurmountable hoops women are forced to jump through.

we'll continue our battle in court to remove the arbitrary restrictions on emergency contraception for all women. listen to these statistics. half the nation's pregnancies every year are unintended. doctor's groups say a more access to morning after pills could cut the numbers if taken within 72 hours of unprotected sex, they can cut the chances of pregnancy by up to 89% but it works best if taken within the first 24 hours. the fda had been poised to lift all age limits and let it be sold in 2011. it was actually kathleen sebelius overruled her own scientists, she said some girls as young as 11 are capable of bearing children but shouldn't be able to buy the pregnancy-preventing pill on their own. palmer said earlier would i ever say something against the president? this is what i was wrong. i agree with the women's groups. i understand the concerns. i don't think it is encouraging. first of all as jacki said, it is not an abortion pill. would you like the fun facts?

>> yeah. >> stephanie: i know you're fuzzy on the lady bits. >> i am not. >> stephanie: if a woman is already pregnant, the morning after pill has no effect. so it is not an abortion pill. >> i have a passing familiarity with the lady bits. >> stephanie: i'm sure you do. it prevents ovulation or fertilization of an egg. according to the medical definition, pregnancy doesn't begin until fertilized egg implants itself into the wall of the uterus. some critics say plan b is the equivalent of an abortion bill because it may be able to prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the wall of the uterus. it has been discredited. i get that it is an emotional issue. it is not an abortion pill. it is emergency contraception. >> but it is also a medication. >> stephanie: right. >> as opposed to a condom which is not. >> stephanie: the fact is underage girls, obviously there is a fear factor of telling their parents. that's when i would ask our anti-choice friends would you rather have her get pregnant

because she can't get this and have an abortion. this prevents abortion, doesn't it? i'm asking a medical question. don't blame me. okay. jill in ithaca, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi jill. >> caller: hi, steph. hi chris. >> stephanie: hello. >> caller: yeah, actually, i was calling -- i was on hold before hal brought up guantanamo and yeah it is a national disgrace. the president does have a little more power to do something. those people that are there out of 166 have been cleared. they're languishing. now they're all on a hunger strike. we don't want people to die. they're force-feeding them. it is disgusting. and you know, if people want to call in, the white house comment line, they have the number. >> okay. >> stephanie: sure, go ahead. >> caller: 202-456-1111.

i've already, of course, called it. but some of the people are there because it is a witch-hunt. >> stephanie: it is foie gras. the president is not surprised we're having these problems. it is morally ethically legally untenable to hold these people forever. jill, the thing i always said, when bush started this thing and then romney said he would double down on -- double the size of guantanamo is you're right. some of the people weren't terrorists. they didn't hate us when they got there. now they do. >> even the ones that are you know, somewhat dangerous, they have to give -- try them already. let them know their fate. it is like -- it is disgusting and un-american. >> stephanie: absolutely, jill. 46 minutes after the hour. back with the remaining moments of "the stephanie miller show." >> where ever the story is >> announcer: call stephanie now. she's easy. 1-800-steph-12.

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♪ she's got ♪ >> stephanie miller. ♪ eyes ♪ >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 51 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. jacki told us the breaking news out of boston. this is a tweet from "the boston globe" saying three more suspects have been taken into custody in the marathon bombings. roommates they're saying. >> roommates of tsarnaev. >> stephanie: which one? which tsarnaev? >> one of the tsarnaevs.

>> stephanie: they don't know whether they helped them afterwards. >> "the boston globe" is reporting they're people that helped them after. after the bombings. but that's the only news organization that's reporting. >> stephanie: by the way we have not discussed at length ricin guy who is completely a dufus. [ cuckoo clock chimes ] stef bought caster bean seeds off ebay. the thing that makes ricin. so first of all dust mask and other items seized if his martial arts studio. his dojo. s. >> stephanie: he's like the bully on karate kid. the bully -- not the blond guy. the adult bully. that owned the dojo in karate kid. it is that guy. so items seized at his dojo, do you think he did that swan thing that karate kid did. go ahead try to take me!

they tested positive for ricin. records seized by the fbi also showed that everett dutschke ordered seeds make to make ricin off of ebay. ♪ you are an idiot ha, ha, ha, ha ha, ha ♪ >> that's a good way to get on a watch list. >> stephanie: dutschke's attorney declined to guilty. >> computer says no. >> i got a thing with a guy. >> stephanie: his next door, because normally as i've said before next door, the stupidest people in the universe. mass murderers next door neighbors are the stupidest people. seemed like a nice feller. kept to himself. okay. but this guy's neighbor, he's like yeah, he did it. the guy -- >> that was hysterical. >> stephanie: that guy is odd. soon after the seeds were delivered to dutschke's home address, someone using his laptop, who could it be? downloaded a publication on safe handling and storage of the

poison. he's like me. doesn't know how to close his browser. that's why i could never commit any crime. there would be electronic trails. i'm an idiot. i'm a complete idiot. >> the cops are just using go to go to my pc to watch you. >> stephanie: frank in chicago, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi frank. good, go ahead. >> caller: i just wanted to comment about -- you were talking earlier about republicans and conservatives believing that the main reason so many african-americans turned out to vote was because barack obama was running and of course, he's african-american. >> stephanie: in case you haven't noticed, he's black. >> in case you haven't noticed he's black. >> caller: i'm african-american, too. i wanted to point out the fact that you know, it also is a very emotional issue for many of us. my mother grew up in east texas and all my life, growing up, i'm

58 about to turn 59, all my life i heard the stories about how it was legal for her to vote but the obstacles they faced from the ku klux klan when they wanted to vote and right up until my mom died at the age of 86, she was absolutely passionate about voting. there are many people who had gotten complacent, i think over time and who had lost faith in the government. the minute they heard that conservatives were working to take away the right to vote, that struck a chord with african-american people. i don't think it mattered whether the person running was black or not. >> stephanie: frank mike tomasky's piece is about this morning. that's exactly what i said. they really underestimated, you know, how seriously all americans but particularly, as you say black americans take their right to vote and how many people have died for it and how hard some people have had to fight for it. >> caller: the other thing, too, is they may not realize of some

us know from the very first continental congress, the conservative movement has opposed majority rule in this country. there are many others who believe if they have their way the people who claim the libertarian, the people who support the conservative movement, they would like to do is return the country to a time when the elite class rules the country which is ironic because the founding fathers did everything they could to make sure that would never happen. >> stephanie: as mike tomasky wrote, there are more -- they're more racist today than nixon's southern strategy. this is not just coded or suppression techniques. they're writing it into law in state after state. if they think -- black folks aren't going to notice, then -- you are all up in the night. let me you why -- just say. we were saying during the press conference yesterday jim was joking about because they were pushing him about syria. george w. bush would have bombed crete by now. let's have a president who finds

out what happened first. there is evidence the weapons were used. we don't know who used them. he would not be rushed into judgment without more facts. it is not the die die kill, kill, strategy that we have been used to from dick cheney. >> annihilate, kill, kill, kill! >> shut up! shut up! >> stephanie: that was the length of the entire discussion before iraq. obama stopped short of promising further action. all he would say is chemical warfare was confirmed, he would have to rethink the range of options available to us. he insists americans aren't bystanders. bashar assad -- asked for stepping down. they had the south carolina debate last night. >> a couple of nights ago. >> stephanie: elizabeth colbert busch. >> when we talk about fiscal spending and protecting the tax taxpayers, it doesn't mean you take that money we saved and

leave the country for a personal purpose. >> stephanie: snap! nothing but net. here's mark sanford. >> he compare himself to bill clinton. >> do you think that president clinton should be condemned for the rest of his life based on a mistake that he made in his life? >> you don't go through the experience i had back in 2009 without a greater level of humility. >> stephanie: i know bill clinton. we've all worked with bill clinton. you are no bill clinton, sir but thanks for bringing it up! [ applause ] >> he talked about like the experience was thrust upon him. he put himself through the experience. >> stephanie: bill clinton didn't leave the country during the lewinsky thing and leave the keys to someone else while he was -- whatever. all right. that's it for us today. i would like to thank executive producer boy toy chris lavoie, voice deity jim ward. we'll see you tomorrow on "the stephanie miller show."

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>> i'm jacki schechner. it is noon eastern and here's what's current. the boston police department has tweeted out that three new suspects are in custody in the marathon bombing case. details still emerging. "the boston globe" is reporting the three are college students connected to joke ar tsarnaev at umass dartmouth and helped him after the attack. the massachusetts medical examiner is ready to release the body of tamerlan tsarnaev and his widow says she wants his family to take it. tsarnaev died after a gunfight with police more than a week ago but the exact cause of death will not be released until the body is claimed. tsarnaev's parents are still in russia but family members here in the u.s. say they'll do it. in other news, new jersey governor chris christie is out with his first television ad of