>> if there is anyone out there who still doubts that america is a place where all things are possible, who still questions the power of our democracy... tonight is your answer. >> new york city: 1983. 22 year old ivy league graduate barack obama is bothered by the inequalities he sees in society.

>> i had just gotten out of college. at columbia university in new york. and i was very much interested in seeing what could be done in terms of the inner city... >> since black folks are suffering even more than the general population...this is an ongoing problem. >> the question for young barack: what could he do about it? >> i decided to become a community organizer. there wasn't much detail to the idea; i didn't know anyone making a living that way. when classmates in college asked me just what it was that a community organizer did, i couldn't answer them directly. instead i'd pronounce on the need for change. change won't come from the top, i would say. change will come from a mobilized grass roots. that's what i'll do. i'll organize black folks. at the grass roots. for change. >> he sends out dozens of resumes for organizing jobs, but

with no luck. when almost 2 years later, he gets a call for an organizing position in chicago. he's interviewed by activist jerry kellman. >> my main concern was uh, why he might want to do this work. and so i spent the time listening to his story. >> well i heard that he had lived his life as an outsider, maybe conceived himself that way. he had been african american or at least part african american in a place, hawaii, and there were very few people who were black. and when you have that experience either you try to be like everybody else or you identify with other outsiders. barack's case i felt he identified with other outsiders and that was a good start for working with people who were poor and facing racial discrimination. >> kellman thought he might have to sell the ivy league graduate on taking the job... >> ... but that was easy cause i simply told him the kinds of uh, things that were happening to people. and the worse things that were happening to people the more barack wanted to take the job.

>> chicago was considered by many the capital of black america, and ... america's most segregated city. during the early 1900's, the great migration from the south swelled chicago's african american population. by the 1960's, chicago had become a mecca for black nationalism and pride. >> there's no such thing as freedom in this country for a black man. >> when we form our own political party, what time is it? >> in 1983, chicago had its first black mayor. >> when barack obama came to chicago, he came to a city which had very recently elected an african american mayor. uh, the election of harold washington had been national news, front page news, everybody had covered the racial conflict that had divided a city. >> harold thought of himself as an african-american uh politician who extended himself to other communities, for latinos for the first time on a really, uh, impressive scale for asian-americans.

so there was an inclusiveness in, in harold's administration that hadn't been the case before in the city of chicago. >> so it was an african american mayor who not only represented the ideas of african american empowerment, but more importantly the kind of idealism which must have been attractive to a young obama. >> and harold washington had just been elected in 1983. and chicago was the most exciting thing going on at the time. >> but harold washington was faced with many challenges... >> the 1970s were devastating for chicago economically. you had not only the loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs in heavy industries, the steel mills and the railroads and meat packing, but you had white flight on a massive scale; tens of thousands of whites simply abandoned the city of chicago for the suburbs. >> and without employment all problems go up... violent crime and and gangs and drugs and a real uh, unraveling of the economic and social fabric of

the south side in the wake of de-industrialization. >> car thefts were up; the leafy parks were empty people began to spend more time inside. the boarded-up homes, the decaying storefronts families who swaggered down the streets, all of it whispered painful truths. >> obama moved into a small apartment in hyde park on chicago's south side. anxious to get started he turned to his new mentor for guidance... >> jerry kellman had been schooled in the hard-ball tactics of saul alinsky, considered the first community organizer. >> alinsky's very tough, confrontational, very uh, nuts and bolts and very much appealing to people's self interest, wages, uh, having decent working conditions. >> alinsky's principals would be a strong influence on

young obama. the key principal was power. >> alinsky defined power as the ability to act in concert with others, not in isolation as an individual. he laid out a road map of exactly how do we find these common themes that draw people together and give them the strength to over come all the injustices and inequalities that they're struggling against. what is necessary for me to stand up and defend... what i believe in and, and what i hold sacred, and there's only one answer-- power! >> though harold washington was a black independent mayor, the apparatus of most things were still in the hands of what we fondly called the "democratic machine of chicago." >> the predominantly white "democratic machine" controlled chicago politics for decades. patronage and graft were common. because of this, improvements in some areas of

the city were ignored. case in point: the 2,000-unit altgeld gardens. >> altgeld gardens is part of the massive public housing world that existed in chicago in the 1980s and 90s. and these are very tough neighborhoods that at one point were, uh characterized by upwardly mobile middle class families but had become by the 80s and 90s basically areas that were facing downward mobility. >> by the time barack arrived at altgeld gardens, it was obvious the name was a misnomer. >> everything about the gardens seemed in a perpetual state of disrepair. ceilings crumbled. pipes burst. maintenance crews stopped even pretending the repairs would happen any time soon. so that most children in altgeld grew up without ever having seen a garden. it seemed only natural to use the land as a dump. a dump, and a place to house poor blacks.

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>> obama's main assignment for kellman's developing communities project was to meet directly with the residents to learn about their grievances... >> the first thing we that we taught obama, was to listen to people. in their home, on their job and listen to what they have say about their lives and what's important to them. >> as obama met the residents, he found that many were single mothers. >> they were spirited, good-humored women... women who without husbands to help somehow managed to raise sons and daughters, juggle an assortment of part-time jobs and small business schemes and organize girl scout troops fashion shows and summer camps for the parade of children that wandered through the church every day. >> we were at saint helena's of the cross church in a conference room. and jerry kellman brought in barack. the first impression was basically he is really young. he was, what, 23, 24 years old.

it, it was an unusual thing for someone his age, to be that concerned about other people. we had a tuesday organizers meeting and, uh, we would talk about the different issues that we were working on. >> ... he began to listen for commonality. what was it that tied people together? they often uh, uh, disagreed. they maybe even disliked one another but his job was to mold them into a group that could begin to speak with a common voice in their own behalf. >> he helped us identify the problems, help us turn those problems into issues, which were then doable, solvable, and then go on to identify who was responsible for resolving it. >> there were a number of issues at altgeld, but the community found a rallying cry... >> i saw this white machine sitting out there. and as i got closer, pebbles

started to hit me in the face and i said, oh, wow, what is this?... and two guys stepped out from the basement, uh, and we called the "astronaut suits." i knocked on one of the guy's masks, you know, and i asked him, i said, what are you doing? you know. and he told me, he says, we're removing asbestos. i said, removing asbestos? and he says, only on the first floor, only on the first floor! and i said, oh, i said, no tenants live on the first floor. >> they were removing asbestos for employees, who are only there for eight hours, but here tenants who live there 24 hours a day, they weren't going to do any removal for them. >> obama's role was to engineer a plan of attack for the residents. >> the group decided to get together and go down to c.h.a. and meet with the management down there. >> the c.h.a. was the chicago housing authority, responsible for all "low income projects" in the city. >> barack said we had to go; we just fell in line.

so barack chartered a bus.... a little yellow school bus. >> we went to the chicago housing authority; they told us the director would be with us shortly, you know. >> although, they had a scheduled appointment, they were left waiting in a hallway for hours. >> i looked at barack and i said, they're playin' with us. you know, he's not gonna meet with us. and i said, i'd looked over there at his offices and i don't even believe he's here, you know? [laughs] >> obama was getting his first taste of chicago bureaucracy. >> barack might have been irritated, but he never showed anger. >> but i noticed that if he smoked one cigarette and then he began to smoke another one, then i call those his "two cigarette moments." and there was a little anxiety or something up that was going on. >> when a news crew, which had been tipped off, arrived unexpectedly, the director's secretary suddenly changed her tone. >> she got us in this little anteroom, and...do you all want

coffee? do you want donuts? do you want b', blah, blah blah? the director's busy right now, but he's going' to get to you all. >> they tried to throw everybody off track with promises about what do you need for your apartment? could you use a new refrigerator? >> we had a choice. we could either have the asbestos removed or we could have the repairs done that we needed done... you know, we had people who didn't have bathtubs or kitchen sinks or stoves. so we didn't think that that was a real choice. >> the day ended with the group feeling they had not accomplished their goal. but their presence and persistance did have an impact. >> the meeting actually turned out to be more of a success than we thought because one of the parents, was able to make a statement to the press. >> we are sincere about having this taken care of... >> once the power of the press was on board, the cha director agreed to meet with barack's

developing communities project on their own turf -the gymnasium at our lady of the garden's church. emotions were running high. this time, over 300 people showed up! >> we've started in altgeld. we're going from apartment to apartment to determine the severity of the asbestos. we will install in an maintenance plan that you will be...excuse me! >> the meeting disintegrated into pandemonium. but the point was made. >> and the issue was addressed. the asbestos was moved out of c.h.a.. so i think it was a victory. i think the biggest victory, though, was the fact that parents, every day people forced an issue and made something happen. this show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the

other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

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all she said is the information that we have at this point is it was a protest based on the anti-muslim video which, by the way there had been violence in egypt that very same day. so that's -- if that's the worst

you've got, then you have nothing. >> stephanie: yep, yep. well i -- the whole thing as we've always known it is about. you sum it up perfectly. really, continue with the hillary clinton bashing which is all this actually is. it is so retro charming at this point. we are back into clinton derangement syndrome again. >> totally. darrell issa yesterday on "meet the press" saying oh no, this isn't about hillary at all. they mentioned hillary like over 30 times. >> stephanie: this is so not about hillary that i've never going to say hillary again. >> this is a pissing match between the c.i.a. and the state department. that's really about it. >> stephanie: yep. by the way you frequently bring our attention to things we might have missed like dennis practicinger's recent column. he is laying out a reason to stop free school breakfast. the free breakfast profoundly

weakens young people's character. really? >> huh? >> why don't they go out and get a job in a coal mine or something? a sweatshop. >> again i might blog post every day. i know sometimes you gotta reach way up your ass to find something to write about. but you know, there are points where you go, you know what? i'm just not going to go that low. not pragueer though. he's getting on the ground with it. hate going to roll around with this. >> stephanie: any home that cannot provide a child with breakfast, demands a visit from child protective services. what are we going to do with those children? who is going to pay for the hundreds of thousands of visits by child protective services by the state? it is incredible. >> if you want to talk about budget cuts, you want to talk about things like that, fine. do it. let's talk about you know,

let's have a conversation about what we would rather pay for. but to say that it is a liberal plot, to make it -- to make kids reliant on the government. there is just something so -- i don't know. it is like giving into the worst paranoia of the tea party that you could come up with at this point. >> stephanie: you understand how ridiculous you sound when you say the left has damaged children and families through free school breakfast. what's next? crossing guards teach kids to be dependent on the state making decisions for their safety? school buses ignore the self-reliance of hitching a ride with strangers? [ laughter ] yes, we're coddling them with these bus rides and this food, right? >> that's it. that's all we're doing. we are -- we have created a reliant generation of kids that believe that they should have a chance to not starve to death. and how dare the government be involved in that.

>> stephanie: as do you because you're a helper, because we're all helpers here, you finish with dennis, rude pundit knows what it is like it. is hard to come up with new [ bleep ] but speak out about giving a bagel to a kindergartener is about as low as one should go. if you have a problem with that, you should probably go [ bleep ] yourself with a granola bar. one of the nutty crunchy ones. [ buzzer ] >> i didn't. to go with some nice, greasy sausage. i wanted it to be a little difficult on him. >> stephanie: sure. that's too slippery. you draw our attention to kansas. this is part two already of what's the matter with kansas. you say okay, two can play that game. let's nullify kansas. you say you're adorable kansas. you made it a felony for federal fire officials to enforce a law. just look at you acting like you're not part of the united states and pretending the u.s. abandoned you. you wouldn't fall quickly into a

nightmare of worse roads. we point out how much more the red states take out than they pay in. >> oh, yeah. they're the takers. if you want to get into the takers in the society, it is all of the red state. almost all of the red states. texas doesn't and one or two others. but almost all of the red states get more back in federal tax money from the federal government in all kinds of projects and again military bases than the blue states do. >> stephanie: you actually give us the numbers. south carolina, they get $1.92 for every $1 its inhabitants throw into the kiddie. so, as you say your despicable asses survive on the states. new jersey, 49 cents. tax choose ets 83 cents. you're living on our dime, alaska north carolina, montana alaska. >> i said alaska twice.

wow. >> just because they're such a big state. >> stephanie: right. >> gimme, gimme, gimme gimme! >> gimme tyranny. >> stephanie: they're all states attempting to nullify federal laws. >> in your state out there you get 87 cents for every dollar. imagine if you got a dollar for a dollar. imagine all of the problems you can solve out there. but no. you've got to supplement alabama. so when alabama is there telling you everything that's wrong with your state and how awful and liberal and nancy pelosi runs everything, california is. you know. just know that you're paying for -- i don't know what? their crappy schools and poor dental care? >> stephanie: as you say as only you can very rudely. you got that mother [ bleep ] you are [ bleep ] without us, without block grants, military bases and highway construction contracts so very much more our tax dollars partially pay for in your state. we could nullify you so how

about abiding by the laws of the nation we're all a part of. sometimes they have to stop coddling the kids and tell them to shut the [ bleep ] and sit the [ bleep ] down. samuel l. jackson on their ass. >> if we're giving them an an allowance, we get to control -- >> stephanie: you're still under our roof. >> that's it. >> stephanie: and in brief wayne lapierrre is going to get us all killed. thank you for that post. you said here's something rude pundit never wants to hear again. most nra members aren't like wayne lapierrre the goblin of doom who has been head of the nra for 300 years. that's the argument made by people deathly afraid of offending someone. lapierrre ain't some dirty cop who shouldn't make all cops look bad, he's one of the leaders of that organization. backward -- jim port of my sister blam -- alabama.

>> is that where he's from? >> it is to the left of sodomize my cousin alabama. >> i say they're sister cities but you don't want that. on the town line. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: sister cities that love each other like only the south can. [ laughter ] but i mean you make a really good point. that's the leader of the organization you belong to, if that's where your cash money is going to defend, then [ bleep ] you. are you the nra. you are wayne lapierrre's bitch. i think you can't say oh, we're not like that. why is he your leader then? >> right right. >> stephanie: someone less crazy. >> go to other gun organizations. you know, it is not like -- i guess maybe nra members get special discounts like aarp. no matter what the aarp believes, i'm going to keep my aarp card because i get 10% off at holiday inns so maybe the nra

is like that. maybe you get 100 bullets for free for every 1,000 you buy or something. >> stephanie: but you're absolutely right. elect someone less crazy if you don't want to be represented by that right? >> that's right. did they even run against him? does anybody run against each other in the nra? >> stephanie: there was no goblin of doom primary apparently. >> is there an election or are these people appointed? >> i think they're appointed. >> i think they are too. >> or they kill the opposition. >> like kone. >> stephanie: rudeness, really really incredibly rude stuff this week. i was shocked to find rudeness in your column. >> then i guess i've done my job. >> stephanie: see you next week. love you. >> bye. >> stephanie: rude pundit. 46 minutes. >> he's been on with us -- >> stephanie: i know it.

i'm drunk. >> bleep my sister. >> stephanie: it was graduation weekend. mama -- you know. 46 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: it just implies we all know what's going on in this bubble. the kids don't know but we do. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking?

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5 is minutes after the hour. -- 51 minutes after the hour. cindy in michigan on the i.r.s. story. hi cindy. >> yeah, i just wanted to make sure i said this because i'm hearing people talk about how this was, you know, somebody looking into a group because they were prejudice against that group. that seems highly unlikely in the i.r.s. i'll tell you what appeared to me. in 2009, hundreds of these groups came up within weeks. we have three or four of them in my county alone. our state has them. almost every county in the state has these groups. these tea party groups. and so if the i.r.s. was to get a whole slew of these tax-exempt applications coming in from groups that all sound the same, that would -- i would want that to be flagged regardless of which party. >> stephanie: cindy, part of the difference is a lot of

groups on the left and people that have spoken out against this, clearly, this is wrong. the i.r.s. has apologized. the aclu, among others. but you know, i'm not a tax person and maybe we can talk to someone that is. i agree with you that i can see where there would be -- they investigate a lot of people. if it was done politically, it is wrong. but they said blah, blah, blah, i was going to say to see if they were violating their tax-exempt status. certain groups can conduct activities but it cannot be their primary activity. it would seem to me that's their primary activity. >> caller: but you think about how many there were within just a few weeks after barack obama became president. any organization, that volume, it was thousands. they're talking about maybe 75 out of that that were flagged. and in 2009, it came up and had their applications put in. 2010, they probably had to file. by 2011, that's when you would get audited anyway. if everything -- and they had a

lot of organization with freedom works. there is no way of knowing that something that has the same name and thousands of organizations that all look the same is not a political action committee. somebody -- if i was a low-level i.r.s. person and that was my duty was to have that flagged on my computer somewhere, i would probably get fired if i didn't do that. so i will be curious to see if there's somebody at a low-level or mid-level that said i'm a democrat and i want these people to be investigated. i have a feeling that is not going to be the case. but we'll see what happens. >> stephanie: that's what lois lerner, she heads the i.r.s. unit that oversees tax-exempt groups. >> they all indicated in the application that they were going to be doing some sort of advocacy and it was not clear what type of advocacy. >> stephanie: yeah, because some of the groups, i would assume you would have to say it

wasn't tech neckically political, some of them, jim you know what i mean. right. >> finding true right wing love is a challenge. i created tea party harmony. we have the 19 dimensions of douche bagri. you're certain to find someone just as greedy and narrow-minded as you. >> when i met sam for our first date at the firing range, it was just boom. >> we both know that obama was born in hawaii. that's not really america. >> i don't like taxes. >> i'm afraid of brown people. >> no such thing as nuances in tea party harmony. >> find that one person who's going to love you passionately for the gun toting tea party nut you really are. it all starts with your sociopathic personality profile. right now we view your compatible wing nuts for free at tea party harmony.com. >> stephanie: this is lois lerner explaining what the caller was talking about. >> they didn't do it because of any political bias.

they did it because it was their shortcut way of describing the cases for centralizations. >> but you know what? it gives -- it does look bad. it gives the republicans something to point at and say nixon did this with his enemies. obama may be doing this with his enemies. >> stephanie: she said the practice was wrong and she apologized but you're right. mitch mcconnell already released a statement calling for the obama administration to conduct a review of the thuggish practices. >> and the administration says they are conducting a review. >> stephanie: right. right. i'm sure they will not -- the republicans will not politicize this in any way. >> they never do that. >> stephanie: just like benghazi. hey, john, you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: i'm a teacher and i need to get updated on the conspiracy. what i really -- i think there might be a conspiracy with g.o.p.-supported tax and trade policies. they help create poverty and

increase poverty and force people to be dependent on government. then they cut them off at the knees. >> stephanie: well, you know, if kids can't learn to learn through hunger pains then we're a nation of slackers, aren't we? >> aren't we though? >> stephanie: penny in georgia, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi penny. >> caller: hi, stephanie. >> stephanie: hello. >> caller: i wanted to make a comment when you were talking to rude pundit and then chris made the comment about the president that got appointed, the new president, jim porter. >> stephanie: from [ bleep ] my sister alabama. >> caller: are you there? >> stephanie: yes, go ahead. >> caller: you think that maybe the fact that his law firm that he has in alabama because of one of their biggest clients are defending gun manufacturers. think that might have had anything to do with that? >> stephanie: yeah. at the end of the day, it is just about selling guns. that's all it is about.

>> caller: yep. that's exactly right. >> stephanie: all right, honey, thank you. by the way, we'll get to this story later. can we make it a crime to be stupid in this country? did you hear some movie theatre that was opening -- >> iron man 3. >> they hired people like armed storm troopers as actors to storm the theatre as a joke. and the theatre owner is defending it as a publicity stunt. it was his right to -- a lot of people called 911 presumably. wow. >> what if some of the people had been armed? >> stephanie: we're lucky it is not wayne lapierrre's world. what a stupid -- really? okay. i'm just saying. dumbest thing i've ever heard. 58 minutes after the hour. right back with eric boehlert on "the stephanie miller show."

[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: hour number two. oh sweet mystery of life. at last we found juke again. >> did you miss me? >> stephanie: i missed you so much. we were having technical difficulties and we were not on tv. >> the hamster that runs the wheel fell asleep. somebody had to poke the hamster. >> everybody does. >> stephanie: it's monday. the hamster had a party this weekend. the current hamster. >> that's who was house-sitting for you when you were away. >> stephanie: that's right. but you're back. it is like magic like you've never gone away. [ ♪ magic wand ♪ ] here she is, jacki schechner at

long last in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody. happy monday. new orleans police have released a new surveillance video showing a possible suspect in the mother's day shooting that wounded 19 people yesterday. it is grainy but the person they're looking for is wearing a white t-shirt and dark pants and authorities are hoping that someone will recognize him. police think more than one gun was fired during the shooting as the crowd scattered and many people fell to the ground. three were seriously wounded. the rest were just grazed. thankfully no one was killed. the victims included two children. both are reported today in good condition. officials say there is no indication this is any act of terrorism but rather just street violence. president obama is welcoming prime minister -- british prime minister david cameron to the white house today. in addition to discussing the two countries' relationships they plan to talk about the on-going and escalating crisis in syria, iran counter-terrorism efforts and

trade. as for syria cameron tells npr he believes secretary of state john kerry and russian president vladimir putin made good progress last week as they agree they'll try to broker negotiations between syria's president bashar al-assad and the opposition. the hope, of course, is to organize some sort of peace conference that will result in a plan to set up a transitional government. cameron also met with vladimir putin last week. there will be a press conference later this morning. we'll see if president obama and prime minister cameron speak to the media what they'll have to say. vice president biden is in philadelphia this hour where he is giving the commencement address at the university of pennsylvania. that is my alma mater and hopefully we'll be able to bring you sound from that when it turns up within the hour. otherwise, we invite you to go on current.com and join us in the chat room so you can talk with us and the rest of the crew. we'll be back with more show for you after the break.

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this show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just

care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right? >> stephanie: six minutes after the hour. comedian extraordinaire in studio with us for hour number three. looky here. this is a letter from kirk. this is not a hate letter. listen to this. [ ♪ hypnotic ♪ ] stephanie, i stumbled across your show. >> really? he used that phrase? >> stephanie: yes, i have little time for tv these days but i happened to stumble across your show and i was amazed at how ridiculous your liberal views are regarding the benghazi incident. i have never watched your show

before. i realize your job is to blame bush and attack conservatives but at least be respectful to the americans who want more answers regarding our leadership's poor decision making regarding benghazi. try being an american instead of a left wing whack job. [ applause ] >> why don't you listen to robert gates a bush appointee on his views. >> stephanie: i don't blame bush except for the 60 people that were killed at embassies when he was in charge and there was never one hearing or one question answered about any of those. i think we need to spray again. >> are you tired of cranky callers who only want to harsh your talk show buzz? you only have them poop in your punch bowl. introducing troll be gone. the strongest solution of ridding your chat room of trouble making trolls. one spray and trolls be gone. >> i used to fight with trolls all the time. now i just spray them away from you stream and facebook

profiles. apply liberally and it lasts for weeks. >> check out troll be gone. >> i'm a small business owner. >> look at the nongay. >> ow, ow, ow. >> i try to listen to both sides. >> order troll be gone today now available in our five gallon concentrate. >> you know what? >> stephanie: all right. trolls be gone. it is time for eric boehlert from media matters. doing the lord's work as usual. ♪ hurts so good ♪ ♪ come on, baby ♪ ♪ hurts so good ♪ >> stephanie: let's dive into the right-wing world. >> i don't know what that means. >> stephanie: eric boehlert from media matters who we love. good morning, eric boehlert. >> good morning. >> stephanie: i wanted a right wing troll-free environment for you. loved your tweets over the weekend. obama called benghazi terror on 9-12 but on the 13th, the white house was trying to scrub terror. seriously, people? none of these talking points make sense, do they?

>> a lot of the stuff is being flushed down the memory -- so the whole conspiracy, all of the edits, they're all designed, this frantic move by, you know, the white house and the campaign not to mention terror because he would lose to mitt romney who he won in an electoral landslide but it turns out -- so they were editing the memo on september 14th. it turns out obama had already turned it terror on september 12th and september 13th. he sort of stepped on his own cover-up but no one -- that has been conveniently overlooked by the right wing media and the main streep press because that takes all of the fun out of the story. if obama's out there calling the benefit ghazi attack a terror, it makes no sense, why would the white house be covering up the notion it was a terror attack? one of the many peculiarities

we've seen since friday. >> stephanie: peg -- peggy noonan doesn't like how they handled benghazi. >> some of the military folks are getting tired. bob gates was one over the weekend. saying the benghazi critics have a cartoonish view of the military capabilities. you know, what's fascinating is i also pointed out on twitter. you have general petraeus, bush's former joint chiefs of staff, mullen, george bush's father who appointed pickering. you have all of these bush alumni looking at this benghazi thing, some of them either wrote the report that was critical of the state department as being trashed as part of the cover-up or people like gates and petraeus was obviously deep military background and they're all looking at this and saying what is this cover-up talk?

what is this insanity? but you know, they have decided you know, pickerring is going to be thrown under the bus because this -- they are -- all part of the vast conspiracy, mullen is being thrown under the bus. so it doesn't matter if you're republican. doesn't matter if you're a four star general. it doesn't matter if bush appointed you you're all part of the cover-up. i sort of joked how brilliant was obama to pick all of these bush alumni to be the point people for his so-called cover-up? genius! >> gates said frankly had i been on the job at the time, my decisions would have been just as theirs were. >> stephanie: republican strategist claims benghazi much worse than 9-11. what now? it really is incredible. there's no hyperbole too much, right? >> no, absolutely not. and you know, when you're on twitter and i'm barraged, not

just this week, eight months, these four americans died. these four americans died. and yes, we have all said this is awful. and these are the same people, you know, that think bush protected us from terror and 3,000 people. these are the same people who thought the iraq war was the greatest thing ever. there is this cognitive disconnect where thousands died under bush and his leadership and if you talk about that, you're being partisan. but for eight months, they are going to obsess over this one terror attack. i mean how many times were u.s. outposts attacked during the bush years? or reagan or clinton or carter? sadly, it is not a new phenomena. it has gone down dramatically in the last ten years. this idea that this is a uniquely obama --

>> stephanie: 60 people died in embassies under bush. a lot of them, eric, a lot much higher body counts. karachi was 19 people. 16 i think at -- i can't remember which -- saudi arabia or pakistan. you think this was not even a story. do you remember one story on it when bush was president? >> right. and i think almost -- most of those casualties were all foreign, even though they happened at u.s. outposts and so obviously this is -- you know, stevens was the first -- one of the first ambassadors killed in decades. and obviously that is -- a big story. but boy, you try to put this in context to previous acts of terror around the world and at home and there's something else going on here. >> stephanie: you know who writes about that brilliantly this week, you. benghazi protection in the dark. that's what it is. as you stay ties into their

story line already about president obama. >> i blame obama for pearl harbor and the sinking of the lusitania. >> it gives them a ready-made framework and since inauguration day, they've been pushing this line that obama is this sort of historic monster. he's going to strip your liberties, take your guns, he's going to hook you on government dependent like a drug dealer would. so they've been looking for an outlet you know, to really focus that in on. a news event. they kind of had it with the obamacare debate and you know, he was a socialist and he wasn't going to let you talk to your doctor and oh, by the way he's going to kill people but that was like a wonky debate or semi. but with benghazi, it is all perfect. he's un-american. he doesn't care. he turned his back on these poor people. he's covering this up. the personification of evil. so this is -- one of the reasons i think they have been completely obsessed with it

because it lets them sort of troll these very dark, dark fantasies. >> stephanie: it was supposed to trigger the ah-ha event. it was supposed to be the day americans turned on obama. indeed he wouldn't be able to finish his second term. none of that happened at the hearing. instead of being the explosive watergate style hearing that fox prayed for it sagged under the weight of stubborn facts. it didn't reach the level of whitewater hearings. as you say and even that, as you say, bill clinton established the modern day mark for partisan scandal hearing. >> it is interesting. friday, you know, this scandal now supposedly revolves around interagency editing of memos. which is probably not the most scintillating premise for a scandal but before friday, what happened to all of the other allegations last week? obama ordered everyone to stand down. he didn't want those people rescued. obama was threatening -- the white house was threatening these whistle-blowers. he was silencing the

whistle-blowers. so, you know, one of the problems i have now with the coverage is so the business story is the editing of the memos and again if the scandal actually has legs about editing of a memo, first one in d.c. history that ever revolves around writing of a memo. but you know, the president -- ignoring you know, is the laundry list of lies and allegations. that fox and everyone else has been launching against obama for eight months. so none of those held up. none of those were legit but okay, this one seems to have some premise. so we'll pretend the whole thing is legit. >> stephanie: as you say benghazi mania driven by a dark obsession with obama built upon the assumption he's capable of worsening and incapable of anything decent. that's literally what you're hoping -- what they're hoping you'll buy. >> a week ago, that was the

general thrust. er this settling on oh, it is kind of a cover-up and people exchanged e-mails about a memo and again that's not what they really want. they want it to be about obama is not like us. he's not defending americans abroad. he ordered people to stand down. you know, he let these people die for political purposes. that's what they really want to get at. because they've never seen him as a legitimate president and they think this is the perfect example of him not only letting people die you know, overseas but almost doing it on purpose in the context of a campaign. that's where the real fire is. the stuff about a memo -- they'll take it but it doesn't really express their -- how truly evil they think he is. all said, just one quick point you know, for eight months, we were told obama demanded these changes. his campaign demanded these changes in the talking points. the white house made everyone rewrite these talking points and

of course, you know, the abc story, it is the exact opposite. but we're all ignoring that previous allegation and just pretending. >> stephanie: on to the next allegation. eric, great stuff as always. see you next week. >> okay, bye-bye. >> stephanie: there he goes, eric boehlert from media matters. [ applause ] you know why? because it is louie gohmert time. >> my guest at this time is texas republican congressman louie gohmert. >> this administration has so many brotherhood members that have influenced -- ♪ ♪ he's got muslims on his mind ♪ ♪ have a drink every time he says benghazi ♪ ♪ if your daddy's black you're in the muslim brotherhood ♪ ♪ we go fishing for a crime ♪

♪ we're always happy because we're living our right wing philosophy ♪ >> stephanie: thank you rocky mountain mike. >> you have never heard this song before. >> stephanie: okay, thank you. 18 minutes after the hour. oh looky there, an unfortunate headline. republicans ignored benghazi e-mails. oh dear. 19 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: this is the dirtiest show i have ever been on in all of my life. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show."

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hello, camille. >> caller: hi. look, this is camille. what i want to tell you stephanie is this is a pattern. they're trying to justify their jobs. every year, i'm tired of them getting paid every year, all of that money to come up with no new ideas. what they -- they don't have anything. they go into their trash and come back with something else. i am tired of paying them -- i will be 60 on may 28th. i've been paying my bills. i've paid my dues. i get paid for what i've worked for, for my money. funny talking to you with no volume. but the point is i'm tired of them getting paid for the same old crap. it is like they gave us a fork and a spoon. why bring the fork? it is the same old soup. >> stephanie: we're paying good tax money and they're giving us a spork. congratulations! can you imagine if i came in here and did the exact same show every day? >> you're fired! >> or gave the listeners a spork instead of a show? >> this is not radio spork

ladies and gentlemen. >> stephanie: i got lost in the whole thing. so, speaking of which republican members of congress raised no objection when they first saw internal e-mails detailing the evolution of the administration's talking points on benghazi almost two months ago. so all of the -- benghazi, we need answers. they saw this. >> they had the answers already. >> stephanie: john boner declined to send a representative to that briefing. >> that's a waste of time. i've got some serious drinking to do. >> stephanie: boner called for release of the e-mails. >> why didn't you send a representative? >> stephanie: yes. somebody -- the administration official said boner would have seen them had he attended the briefing to which he was invited along with pelosi. they briefed chambliss and burr who said at that time, the briefing satisfied many of his concerns. jay carney said this is an effort to accuse the administration of hiding something that we did not hide. jay carney.

>> the c.i.a. was the agency that made changes to the edits and to the talking points. >> stephanie: that whole -- eric boehlert -- [ whatever! ] >> dorkous malorkus. >> stephanie: here is grumpy. what is the new sitcom with john mccain and graham? >> here's grumpy. >> i daal a cover-up. i would call it a cover-up in the extent that there was willful, removal of information which was obvious. it was obvious. >> stephanie: mm-hmm. and michele bachmann -- it is gohmert time for her. she is -- she went further than that. >> later this year, on september 11th our nation has seen judgment not once but twice. on september 11th. and that's why we're going to have 911 on that day.

is there anything better than we could do on that day? rather than to humble ourselves and to pray. >> stephanie: i know something better we could have done is -- and when i say we, george bush could have actually reed the memo that said terrorists are going to attack in the united states. hair on fire. five alarm. >> you covered your ass now. >> stephanie: targets like the world trade center. very nonspecific things like that, that might have been a better thing to do. just saying. okay. she said it is no secret our nation may be very well experienced in the hand of judgment. no secret we're all concerned our nation may be in a time of decline. >> we are in the last days. your jehovah god. >> it sounds like she's talking to a pet every time she prays. >> stephanie: if we give god a rawhide and a belly rub -- >> you're jehovah dog. yes, you are. >> stephanie: so handsome, so romantic.

>> if i talk like that to jazz, he knives me. >> stephanie: cats will cut a bitch. did you ever get off of sad cats diary? once jacki schechner sucks you into a cat-related video it is -- >> i'm rolling over on my belly and i demand two belly rubs. if i get more than three i'm -- >> stephanie: i'm going to attack. >> that's what cats do. >> stephanie: all right. that's how they roll. 29 minutes after the hour. all of the latest on the i.r.s. stuff and out of cleveland. and the boston marathon stuff as we continue on "the stephanie miller show." going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first

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>> stephanie miller. >> let's ticktock through the back of her nose. >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." 34 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. john in amherst on benghazi. hi jan. >> caller: how is everything? >> stephanie: why didn't you come hear me speak this weekend? >> i heard you were there. i probably would have gone if i would have seen an advance. >> stephanie: it wasn't far up the transit you bastard. >> next time you're in town, i would love to see you. listen, i don't want to rub salt. i don't think there is a wound yet. however, there are a couple of things -- >> stephanie: regarding benghazi? >> caller: well, just a couple of things. what's happened is you notice a little bit of a drift. please just let me make my

point. you can call me anything you want after i'm done. there is a drip, drip, where not a lot of the -- >> stephanie: yes, there is. >> caller: fans -- hold on steph. these things don't happen overnight. there is a drip, drip. >> stephanie: they were citing pickering and he called darrell issa a liar to his face. >> caller: pickering still did not go and interview hillary. >> stephanie: what? >> caller: hello? >> stephanie: he's already absolved hillary. all right. okay. [dial tone] >> robert gates said he wouldn't have done anything differently and he's a bush appointee. >> stephanie: heavens. he absolved -- pickering absolved then secretary of state hillary clinton. said they've been trying to point a finger at people more senior than we found decisions were made. he said of clinton's critics i love this. but darrell issa literally sitting next to pickering. he said ambassador pickering has people and he refused to come

before our committee. pickering setting next to issa said the chairman was lying and he was willing to testify before the committee. that is not true, he said in other words that's sunday speak for. ♪ you're a lying sack of crap ♪ ♪ you're a lying sack of crap ♪ ♪ you're a lying nasty sack of liquid crap ♪ >> liar, liar, liar, liar! >> stephanie: mike mullen as we mentioned earlier. it is this thing. who is saying they have a cartoonish view? made it very clear. his views of the joint chiefs. there is nothing within range that could have made a difference. general martin dempsey and leon panetta said they didn't have enough intelligence about what was happening and did not know where the ambassador was and f-16s would have been the wrong aircraft. you can't send f-16s without knowing what is take place because you would have killed

among other things, the ambassador. >> one thing gates pointed out was since what's his name's demise, they don't know where all of the surface-to-air missiles went. so flying blindly into that kind of situation would be incredibly dumb. >> stephanie: senator rand paul, did you see that this weekend said benghazi clearly precludes hillary clinton from ever holding office. >> uh, no. >> stephanie: yes, he was in iowa. oh gee. i wonder. first question, hillary clinton where in the hell were the marines? it was inexcusable, a dereliction of duty to preclude her from holding higher office. >> she explained in her testimony where the marines were. they were not there. they couldn't be there. >> stephanie: right. >> in time. >> they should have gotten into a time machine and gone to the future to where they were there. >> stephanie: dick durbin says this has been caught up in the

2016 presidential campaign this effort to go after hillary clinton. i speak for hillary rand when i say -- >> you turkey! >> turkey. >> stephanie: yes. okay. let's go to kevin in d.c. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi kevin. >> hey steph. what's up? >> stephanie: i'm good. how are you? >> caller: perfect now. that voice always gets me going. almost been a decade. what kind of mojo you work over me, i'll never understand. quick word about the cleveland kidnapping cases, pray to the women who were rescued. can the brother who helped rescue them be given a long honey moon period from the press. he should be given more credit for his actions not his appearance. >> stephanie: what with retalking about? >> the gentleman -- the brother who rescued -- that helped rescue the three girls. >> stephanie: charles ramsey, my future husband that you're jealous of because i can't help talking about him. >> caller: i realize you belong to the world. but what i wanted to say not --

they're not going to act or speak like harlequin romance novels. back to benghazi, it seemed like a long line of hypocrisy. a lot of people made the point about they're trumping this up and never want to have any examination. but it goes on and on and on. they complain about marriage equality because it is immoral yet they happily voted to elect sanford and vitter supposedly so pro-life but they're against basic gun safety measures that protect kids. if republicans were bricks, it would..their own tenements. >> stephanie: nicely done. do we have charles ramsey? >> all she had to do was go et in somebody's car, take this girl to the police. i stuck around. until the police to get there. >> amanda berry is a hero. >> damn celebrity not me. i just pay my position. i just play my position.

>> stephanie: he has auto tuned my heart. charles ramsey. ♪ dead give away ♪ ♪ we eat ribs with this dude ♪ ♪ but we didn't have a clue that that girl was in that house ♪ ♪ dead give away, dead give away ♪ ♪ dead give away, dead give away ♪ ♪ dead give away ♪ ♪ we eat ribs with this dude ♪ ♪ but we didn't have a clue ♪ ♪ that that girl in that house needed help to get out ♪ ♪ open the door. we can't get in that way ♪ ♪ can't open the door ♪ ♪ kick, kick, kick the bottom ♪ ♪ she comes out and she says there are girls up in that house ♪

♪ call 911 ♪ ♪ i knew something was wrong when a pretty little white girl ran into a black man's arms ♪ ♪ dead give away ♪ >> stephanie: the "washington post." i just love him. charles ramsey, the dishwasher, stepped out of a white rolls-royce on u street on friday night. seconds later was on the facebook page. they flew him in. he's the guy yelled at him you're like a lifesaver. here are you. this is facebook material. he was on this guy's -- ramsey could barely take two steps before he was spun around to pose with a d.c. cop on a segue. it was day five of ramsey's moment, he was more from hero to celebrity. he was flown in along with his entourage of three young brothers and neighbors and friends and their tough guy uncle by a boxing firm owner and radio show talk host. the visit that started with two

bites of chili smokes. dinner at a restaurant there. visit to a club. a couple of hours of shut eye and an appearance on the saturday morning show. then back to the airport home to cleveland where more madness awaits as thus his dishwashing job at hodge's restaurant where he intends to report at 4:00 p.m. he told his story over and over to the likes of anderson cooper and george stefan stephanopoulos. he was cool with well-wishers, comfortable bantering with executives on the presidential yacht. yet clearly anxious about getting back to dishwashing monday. i work for a living, man. i will until i'm terminated. i was suspended from work. i gotta show up. i live up to my obligations. he was at work a couple of weeks ago when he leaned over and a couple of rounds from an ak-47 fell out of his pocket. they were gifts from a friend who just returned from iraq and afghanistan. but his boss -- didn't like that

and sent him home. the punishment was painful losing his $269 a week paycheck. significant setback. i love when people talk about giving him a reward, he said give it to the girls. he said if i hadn't -- he said it was fortuitous, if i hadn't been at -- suspended i wouldn't have been home to hear the scream. if there is not a mcdonald's commercial in his future, there is no god. he heard berry's call for help. he spoke a lot about his love of his big mac. it was a scream you never heard. ramsey found the woman locked behind the screen door that wouldn't happen. he love he's still holding his sandwich. you know how when you're really hungry and you just get the sandwich out. just the fact that he let go of the sandwich, he was hungry. he said i'm debating -- >> don't put it down, a varmint might take it. >> stephanie: he said i'm debating to put the big mac down or finish my sandwich.

i'm not letting go because i just bought it. >> i love how he calls it a big mac instead of i put my burger down. made sure to call it a big mac. >> stephanie: right there was a moral choice. it looks really great when you first take it out. i love that he walked over there with the sandwich in his hand. i'm not letting go because i just bought it. i couldn't figure out why she was freaking out. finally he put the burger down. that was commitment. pulled with two hands and kicked out the bottom panel of the door. she asked him to call 911 and ramsey told her to do it. she said i don't know how i've been gone for awhile. >> what? >> stephanie: come on. that is a little totes adorbs. she literally -- she's been gone for ten years. >> didn't know how to work a smart phone. >> stephanie: she -- >> where do you plug it in? >> it is like youth.

>> you still don't know how to put contacts in your phone. >> stephanie: no. all i know how to do is what you show me. ramsey growing tired of the week's accumulations of accolades made clear he felt wronged by his neighbor. if he had gotten his hands on ariel castro, i would be in the penitentiary. he has done nothing but been open about the racial angle of the story. a black man living in a hispanic neighborhood helps save a white woman, her puerto rican captor and sees his heroism tainted by news accounts in a decades old domestic case in which he hit his wife. that reporting for which a cleveland station apologized saying it regretted having dug in his past when the city was celebrating the fact. it was result of talking. he said those kids are at home now so their mothers are going to have a mother's day. anybody who portrays me in any wrong way, i didn't have any image before this so i don't care what one i have now.

>> wow. [ applause ] >> he's wise, too. that's amazing. >> stephanie: anyway. the whole sandwich part, i just -- please, mcdonald's, come on. make that dream come true. 46 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> i got her number off the men's room stall. 1-800-steph-12.

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>> wonder if other politics are dancing. >> stephanie: it is the "the stephanie miller show." what did this song mean? really? >> was that really singing? >> they're doing a bowie impression really. karaoke bowie. >> all right. >> stephanie: 51 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. all right. so we were talking about the latest out of the cleveland case. the two brothers called their brother a monster. said he hoped he rots in jail. pedro castro said he had been in the house but -- pedro castro -- >> pedro. >> pedro. >> stephanie: san pedro out here. >> stephanie: he said he had been in the house but never noticed anything amiss. part of the house was blocked off by curtains and a radio and tv was always on. onil castro said he wanted them to cover. that monster is a goner.

>> if the girls testify they never saw these two brothers or anything like that, then you know, i think they're off the hook. i think -- they've talked to the girls. i'm sure they would have -- >> yeah, they would have said something. >> stephanie: the whole thing defies logic. >> that they were in the house and they didn't know. >> stephanie: interesting, other developments. could ariel castro be linked to the 1981 murder of tammy seals. this piece in the "daily beast," an ohio group is trying to link him to the brutal rape and murder of a 14-year-old girl 30 years ago. they do look at cold cases but you know, as someone was saying, they'll talk to him about every single one. you don't know if he's involved. the fbi and cleveland police announced friday they'll take a closer look at two cold cases in light of this week's events. disappearance of christina adkins and ashley summers in 2007 when summers vanished, they think she might be linked to amanda berry and gina dejesus. and then this is interesting. the ohio state public defender's

wrongful conviction project they're looking into whether castro may have been involved in the 1981 kidding, rape and murder of tammy seals who was found dead near the same neighborhood where castro, then in his early 20s was living tate and another guy was convicted, they believe wrongly. morales was convicted but the organization strongly believes he's innocent. yeah. this was another horrible case. found naked, hands tied behind her back, ankles tied with a bra. she had been sexually assaulted. he was convicted partly on the claims of two jail house snitches who, you know, said he confessed then they each later recanted their testimony claiming they had lied in return for favors from prosecutors that never material identified. no material evidence. pubic hair did not look like a pubic hair from seals or morales. the morning of the abduction the witness heard the sounds of an engine. morales didn't know how to drive at the time.

witnesses also reported they saw three hispanic men in their 20s chasing seals on the morning of the abduction. ariel castro is puerto rican like morales and around the same age and lived in the same area. again, that's where they're wondering were the brothers ever involved. he obviously has two brothers. in 2008, a judge ordered testing of dna evidence but some of the evidence was either lost or destroyed. of some these cases are amazing that people got convicted. the ohio attorney general's office on friday, uploaded castro's dna into the system. that's how they proved the paternity. so far he hasn't matched any case in ohio but results are pending with the fbi. one local private investigator said they'll be asking about every missing person in the last 20 years. he think he tortured women but i don't think he got to the point of murder. one former fbi agent said castro is a sexual sadist and generally they don't kidnap for them to die however in cases where torture goes on for too long,

murder can be default. >> what happened to the first woman? >> stephanie: there was a thing in the basement that said rest in peace. one of them remembered there was another girl. >> the first girl remembered another girl when she got there and one day, she was gone. >> stephanie: well, i know. i'm sure they're looking into all of that. >> that was according to reports. i don't know if that's the official police line just yet. >> stephanie: yep. the other big story -- other than the joe -- a.j. hottie. according to the "new york post." right. a lot of teen girl fan clubs in free dzhokhar hashtag. because of that, okay. russia withheld a crucial piece of information from the u.s. before the boston bombings, u.s. officials say bolstering concern about trust between the two governments. that's where they're saying probably the major intelligence failure was. in 2011, russia sent an alert to

the fbi about tamerlan prompted by tex messages between his mother and a russian relative. it suggested tamerlan was interested in joining militant groups. they called the text messages the most important in a series of missed signals. this he learned about them a week after the bombings. several officials say such precise information would have led to a deeper examination. again, you can't say would it have prevented it but it might have. the information russia withheld would have allowed the bureau to open an investigation where you can track his investigations. to me, that's where the ball got dropped said mike rogers. so far in the boston bombing u.s. officials say it appears intelligence official about what went awry. they requested more information and received none. u.s. officials didn't know why the text messages weren't provided earlier. they surmised russia didn't provide other information because they wanted to protect their sources or because they didn't give the information credibility themselves. wow!

imagine zubeidat trying to use auto correct on her text messages. zubeidat said she often communicated with relatives by texts. she said she didn't know what messages might have alarmed the authorities but deny she knew about any intentions of her son to join a rebel group. [ explosion ] auto correct alone. ♪ zubeidat ♪ ♪ zubeidat ♪ >> there goes a dzhokhar. >> there goes a tamerlan. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: officials say her texts would allowed them to get wiretapping authority. that might have helped. one dagestanny official said he tried to build contacts with radical muslim groups and one fighters. u.s. authorities had heard of none of this. after the bombing, oh, i love this because we can always trust

putin, right? because george bush looked into his soul. [ whatever! ] >> stephanie: in late april he said tamerlan had been in the country episodically and russian officials were unable to give our american colleagues any information. >> mmm yeah. >> stephanie: u.s. official said russians still aren't fully cooperating and haven't provided information about surveillance during tamerlan's trip there. the plot thickens. >> little boy's belly. that was weird. >> stephanie: pretty cal sharing. 58 minutes after the hour. carlos next in studio on "the stephanie miller show."

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