[♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: hello, current tv land, hour number 1. what a horrible horrible story. the president is going to speak in about an hour so we'll carry that live. good morning, jacki schechner. >> good morning. >> stephanie: it's like the same number of school kids as newtown, and yet this story just gets worse and worse. >> if you are in that tornado belt why are there not more

shelters? it seems like maybe there weren't the appropriate -- >> i heard yesterday the soil around there is like concrete and it's really hard to build a basement so they build safe rooms in the middle of the house. >> stephanie: yeah, we'll talk about that. >> hindsight is 20/20. you don't really know. >> stephanie: yeah. lots of breaking news this morning. >> good morning, everybody, i wish i had better news. president obama is expected to speak about an hour from now about the devastating tornado that ripped through oklahoma yesterday. he has already signed a major disaster declaration which will make federal aid available to the communities that need it and fema already has teams on the ground in oklahoma to help with search and rescue assessment. yesterday's tornado is being described as a two-mile wide

lawn mower blade. at least 20 children were killed. the tornado estimated to have been an ef4 which means the winds were between 160 and 200 miles an hour and the tornado stayed on the ground for 40 minutes. about 100 people have been pulled from the rubble, but officials say the death toll could still rise by as many as 40 people. the governor says rescue has been slow overnight. >> we had a huge number of firefighters and emergency personnel that there on standpoint. but it has been since about 2:30 since i have had an update, but i haven't heard of anyone that has been rescued from that site. >> tom coburn already concerned about the federal money that is going to go to oklahoma.

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only on current tv. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome to it. six minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. as we mentioned at the top of the hour, the president will speak live in less than an hour, and we'll go to that live on then tornado in oklahoma. we're digesting the horrible news, and it looks like there are 40 more people that have not been recovered yet. >> they have not been processed by the medical examiner. >> stephanie: it really is

unbelievable. tom coburn who is the republican senator from oklahoma is saying he wants offsets. this is his own state. he wants offsets in spending before -- >> yeah, before -- >> spending cuts before you give money to my state. >> stephanie: that is unbelievable. >> and of course he is one of the ones that voted against hurricane sandy relief. >> stephanie: i suppose at least he is consistent in being a jerk. >> when you are a senator you are supposed to advocate for your own constituents and then figure out how to pay for it afterwards. that's the way we do things. >> stephanie: it's amazing after sandy hook, these stories are horrible. if you were following the breaking news yesterday, you weren't sure -- you were hoping they were going to get people -- that horrible chyron that you see when you are watching stuff when it goes from -- it has gone from a

recovery depreciation to, you know, however they phrase -- where you go oh no. >> right. >> stephanie: at any t rate we'll look at all of the latest out of there and get it to you as we get it. but this always starts like is there something that they could have done? is there a better way to build storm cellars and stuff like that -- >> yeah, the soil around there apparently is really really hard. you really can't dig into it without incurring a huge experience experience. so they build concrete safe rooms in their house. and when you are up against a cat 4, cat 5 -- >> stephanie: yeah because there was talk about should they have moved the kids? and the problem is where? >> yeah, because it's so hard to outrun a tornado. >> especially if it is two miles wide. >> stephanie: yeah. a huge tornado barrelled through

the oklahoma city superbs, and the pictures -- and people always make that analogy, but it is true. it is like a war sewn. you think oh my god. these are the numbers we're getting now. at least 51 have been killed including 20 children. this was a helicopter reporter yesterday. >> this thing hasn't decreased in size any. and i'm getting a little closer than i want to be right now. but this is sucking us in at about 50 to 60 miles an hour right now. >> stephanie: yeah, that's always a scary job, the storm reporter, but yesterday you saw a few of them -- >> yeah, we're getting sucked into this thing. oh, my god. >> stephanie: yeah, and that's the thing with a tornado, is how do you know which way it is going to go? >> yeah, it could turn or -- >> stephanie: right.

okay. >> wonder what the climate change deniers have to say about that? >> stephanie: yeah, i was watching when -- i think the first reporter had to report live that the kids were dead and you could tell he was father -- >> sure, and a member of the community. >> stephanie: the dialogue was like -- having to report on those human moments. >> look at that school. look at that school guys. oh, my guys. if you guys can see this. i don't know how to explain it. how to describe it. is terrible. this is war zone terrible. it is -- like you see, completely destroyed as -- as kids run up -- hopefully their loved ones. but this whole area right here guys it's -- it's completely destroyed. >> stephanie: i'm reading a chyron on the tv right now and they are talking about -- like you say, chris, these reporters

are from this community, and one of them shooting video on the way to his son's school. helicopter reporter again. >> oh, no. oh, my goodness. >> i don't know what to say -- that one looks harder. it looks harder hit than any of them before. >> oh, my goodness. >> as a parent this is kind of hard to report on. >> you look at that scene of destruction there, and the small figures of those rescuers looking frantically here. where do you begin on something like this? >> stephanie: oy vey. i mean, and i have to say i know people go it's too early to talk about but can we talk about climate change at all? are we really preing tending that this is not happening -- >> this is what they predicted, massive storms the ice caps would melt. all of that is happening right now. >> stephanie: yeah, and believe me i'm sure i'll turn on the

radio later, and rush will accuse us of politicizing the issue. >> tom coburn around did that. >> stephanie: what did he say? >> that he needed us -- >> stephanie: because it's not a timely matter. >> they can wait until we balance the budget. >> stephanie: yeah except i was saying you have to give them points for consistency, because normally they are giant hypocrites, like they only want money for their district and not other states. but i thought between sandy and all of the stuff we have been -- i -- you know, there is no way that you can refruit what scientists are saying that this is happening more and more regularly and more and more extreme events. i'm so -- you can't even engage in a scientific argument with people that are just dummies. they are just like -- if it snows in the east in the winter

there's no such thing as global warming. and as jim says over and over, it's not global warming, it's climate change. >> sarah palin said something bone headed like that yesterday, it's snowing in alaska in may. there's no global warming. >> stephanie: here is a tornado survivor yesterday. >> deathly quiet, next thing i know you could feel the bricks and stuff coming in it was stucking the actual cellar out of the ground. it unlatched the door. it tried to open the door. it caved the door end. once it ends we of course got out. and i looked, my car is gone. it's nowhere to be found, and there's an angel out there by the name of brandon that brought me home to my house here.

and when i got home i realized there is nothing left of my house. the front is still standing, but the back is gone. my bathroom, honestly is untouched. we have lost animals. we have lost everything. we -- we don't have anything left, and my parents -- i can't get ahold of them. we have no cell we -- we -- you know, so if they are out there and watching please let them know that i'm and my family is okay. and we'll make it. we'll be okay. but everything is gone. >> stephanie: imagine thinking of youstrself as a lucky one. and you were saying -- i know for me as an animal lover, i probably can't watch the video you were watching. >> yeah, although a woman was talking to a reporter on the air live, and she said she couldn't find her dog, but i guess during the live interview the dog

emerges from the rubble and runs to the woman -- >> stephanie: i can't even hear the description. >> i know. >> stephanie: awful. awful. one more survivor yesterday. >> we thought we died because we were locked the cellar door once we saw it coming and it got louder, and the next thing you know you see the latch coming undone, and it ripped open the door, and it just -- glass and debris started slamming on us. we thought we were dead to be honest. >> stephanie: i heard a lot of people saying that yesterday. it's terrifying. >> yeah. >> stephanie: i think back -- because i obviously didn't grow up in that area the midwest, all i can think of is the movie twister because it looks like a movie if you are not used to those kind of represents sitterfying the number of people that absolutely must have thought they were dead. >> sure. >> stephanie: awful. awful news this morning out of

oklahoma. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. curious people that have lived through stuff like this. unfortunately it is becoming more and more prevalent and our thoughts and prayers all of that stuff -- i know it is over said -- but go out to those folks in oklahoma. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> there is too weird, man? >> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show." are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war

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[ laughter ] >> right. >> stephanie: don't do it. don't do it right now. >> but that's up on your facebook page. >> stephanie: all right. let's go to corky in rochester. >> caller: here we go again, the kenyan socialist handing out money again. >> stephanie: yep. yep. >> caller: these republican governors if they believe in god they have to wake up -- >> stephanie: corky, again, as i was saying you have to give tom coburn, who has already said he wants offsets for relief for his own state. you have got to wonder what do people in oklahoma think about his senator this morning? >> caller: he is worth voting for again, don't you think? >> i think he is retiring actually. >> caller: i won if it was one of his kids buried under there jif he would call for offsets

before they dig him out. alan is in oklahoma. >> caller: hi. i just wanted to let you know what i experienced yesterday. i saw the thing grow just three miles south of my house, and it was really weird. i have seen quite a few tornados up here, but when it grew up it just stood there for about five minutes. >> stephanie: we were saying we're not from tornado country -- so you are three miles away, you are watching it are they telling you which direction it's coming -- were you nervous it was going to turn and come your way? >> caller: yeah, we were in what they call a hook echo radar, and when that happens you can go out and look at the clouds and see the circulation. and there was circulation everywhere around here, and then

i saw that -- kind of around here -- and went back in looked at the tv, and thought, well, i better turn on the werth and then went back out, looked and there it was standing right there just three miles south. well in oklahoma you have to kind of stand there and watch to see which way they go. >> stephanie: wow. you sound so calm. you weren't scared it was coming your way? >> caller: well, i'm 56, so i have seen quite a few -- >> stephanie: wow. >> caller: but that -- the weirdest thing about that one is it stood straight up for so long. >> stephanie: yeah. >> yeah. >> caller: like it didn't know which way it was going and all the of a sudden like a big blue cloud came down on top of it and it headed straight east -- i mean just fast -- real fast. >> stephanie: yeah.

is everybody you know safe alan? >> caller: yeah. my whole family is okay. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: luckily, i had family on both sides of it. >> stephanie: alan thanks so much for calling. stay safe. appreciate. >> caller: yeah. >> stephanie: i am too panicky to give in tornado country -- >> well you live in earthquake country -- >> stephanie: i'm too panicky to live anywhere. where aim going? jesse hello. >> caller: hi, stephanie. i love your show. i just want to say i was very appreciative of al gore's nobel prize, and i wonder if it will take somebody's asparagus being disturbed before people start listening.

>> stephanie: yeah there are so many people -- obviously including al gore that have been talking about this for so long, and if you watched his movie, as jim said, this is exactly what he and scientists have been talking about, these extreme weather events. i don't know how old you are, but it doesn't take a genius to know this is happening more and more often right? >> caller: yes it is. and i am in fact older than you, but i tell you if i was ten years younger, i would be right on your tail. >> stephanie: oh wow, that took a turn. that was a conversational tornado. thank you, jesse. >> caller: you're welcome. >> stephanie: wow, wow i did not see that coming. john? in chicago. >> caller: i will say the republicans will likely say after a tragic weather event like this happens it's not the

time to talk about climate change, and after the first thousand soldiers were killed in iraq were not the thyme to ask where the weapons of mass destruction were. it's the public discourse filibuster. it is part of obstructionism. all they want to talk about is benghazi. that's it. >> stephanie: right. right. >> caller: and they will politicize that one. >> benghazi and the deficit. >> stephanie: exactly. thank you, honey. let's go to michael in florida down in hurricane land. hey, michael. >> caller: hey, how are you doing? >> stephanie: good, go ahead. >> caller: couple of points i don't know the gentlemen's name in the studio but he said they have hard packed soil but i believe john deere makes pretty good equipment to bite into that soil -- >> they also have a high water

table as well. >> caller: okay. well there is a way of leaching that off. >> sure. it costs a lot of money. >> caller: well, i look at it this way, this affects us all, it affects the insurance agency and everything else, being in a hurricane zone like i am we are limited to the people we can go to for our insurance for our houses, and we pay a lot because of it -- >> stephanie: and we have earthquake insurance out here. >> which no one can afford. >> caller: right. we have literally millions of these containers they use on the container ships. they are just sitting around, they can be chopped in half rewelded set in the ground there you have it. and i'm thinking more in the way of an ounce of prevention instead a pound of cure. >> stephanie: sure. it's not like you can't talk about solutions. twenty-nine minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie

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the headline at this hour is 91 feared dead in tornado-hit oklahoma. predawn emergency workers searched for survivors. unbelievable it's oklahoma city again, i have to say that stuck me yesterday having interviewed one of the moms of an oklahoma city bombing victim. reporters were cleared back from the elementary school which sustained a direct hit. the white house said obama will speak about the tornado obviously as i said at 7:00 am pacific. there is an outpouring of grief from and messages from around the country, including one that just said please find those little children. it's just another horrible tragedy, where i think they are saying at least up to 20 of them are little kids or elementary school kids.

let's go to dave in minneapolis. welcome. >> caller: good morning, momma. there's -- i grew up in minnesota, and we don't have the category usually of those kinds of tornados but i have seen them go over head i have listened to them go over head and being in the basement is not a guarantee of safety. everyone has a basement here practically, and you go in the southwest corner and open the windows in the house, but when you have something with that kind of power -- two miles wide? that's just amazing. >> yeah stunning. >> caller: the other thing that is pathologically wrong or checking for a soul that somebody would say we have to

make sure we have offsets before i'll help my people. >> stephanie: yeah on the day it happens you are going to talk about we need offsets. >> caller: how do you even address that. my jaw drops. in my mind this is no different than parent who says i'm going pray away my child's cancer and chooses not to get treatment for the kid. you are saying my ideology is more important than the life of my baby, and to me that is the most reprehensible -- you don't deserve to be parent, and you don't deserve to be representing your constituency when your money is more important than the fact that we have 20 kids dead -- i am a parent and i just cannot understand that. they didn't want to do anything after 20 babies are killed by a crazy person with a gun, and now they don't want to do anything.

there is something really really wrong with not only the individuals that represent us, but why are people electing these individuals? what is going on? why are we so soulless anymore? >> stephanie: and mary is in oklahoma. welcome. >> caller: hello. >> stephanie: hey, mary good morning. >> caller: good morning. i'm from oklahoma and tom coburn he's reprehensible. and i'm glad he is not running again for anything, because he is totally -- every time you talk to him about anything he always goes back to republican talking points about it will cost too much money. and we had a young person who was native american who discussed the violence against women act with tom coburn and he said it will cost too much money, and i'm glad he is not going to be running anymore. and i think jim [ inaudible ] is equally reprehensible.

>> stephanie: yeah mary what -- i have to wonder if that is connected to him retiring that he would dare to say something like that on the day of this tragedy? >> caller: well, you see the people here where i live anyway they would vote for him because they hate obama so bad. they hate obama so bad that they would actually vote for -- i don't know hitler. >> yeah. >> caller: and tom coburn and everybody blames those things -- that racism thing around here -- >> stephanie: what do you think that is? >> caller: and there's people here -- well, we have indigenous people here and he doesn't help us any. i don't know what his deal is. he is a first class panderer. >> stephanie: for someone that lives in an area like that. when you say people hate obama, i didn't get why.

why? >> caller: because he is black. >> stephanie: there you go. okay. >> caller: there you go. thank you. >> and they buy into the propaganda that is a socialist. that sort of stuff resinates with people in a red state. >> stephanie: i guess fox and company have so successfully built the cartoon -- >> they have. they did the same thing with bill clinton. when i moved from arizona to california, the people i was working with just hated bill clinton -- and i'm like why? >> stephanie: it's weird to me to hate a person that i don't know. >> yeah, but that's the way it is. >> stephanie: debra in chattanooga. >> caller: listen, i was going to talk about global warming, sort of, but here in chattanooga

on april 27th, 2011, that was the day they had the big tornado in tuscaloosa alabama, i believe. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: we did not get a whole lot of press on that, but we had at least nine that i can count, ef3 and ef4 tornados come through all of our little satellite towns around chattanooga. >> stephanie: right. >> uh-huh. >> caller: wiped out one town that was on the news, ringhold georgia. wiped out the high school. we haven't had -- we have had two tornados in 30 years, and in one day we had nine. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: and several of them were ef4s. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: how do you explain that? that doesn't happen here. we don't worry about tornados or

earthquakes, but apparently we should. >> stephanie: yeah. you know anecdotally these kind of extreme events did not happen with this kind of frequency when we were growing up. >> caller: no, and certainly not with this ferocity. >> stephanie: yeah. and mary, i want to talk to her about -- you know, we have the same problem here in my red state. i'm a little blue dot in a big red state, and i don't understand why people hate obama other than he is black. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: you go on facebook and you see one person say something about god and god is love and love and love and the next post they put up is a picture of obama with the word hate over his face. >> i don't know if it's as simple as it is just that he is

black. because people in red states hated bill clinton with the same ferocity. >> caller: yeah, you are right. but i think that's a big part of it here, but i don't understand it. i don't. >> stephanie: yeah, i think because to me the reality is so different than the cartoon, but i guess you are right, if you bought the cartoon, then you are not really having a feeling based on what the actual person is doing, right? she just said these people will vote for tom coburn who just said i need offsets before i'm going to get money for my own districts -- i don't know where we are in this country politically. >> caller: it is very sad. it's just sad. >> stephanie: yeah, and i know that's -- i'm sorry, honey -- and i know that's not new the voting against your own self interest, but that's pretty

stark. >> the official death toll has been lowered to 24 people because of confusion over people that may have been counted twice, or whatever. but that just illustrates the confusion that was going on yesterday. but the death toll could obviously change again. >> stephanie: ed in north carolina. hi, ed. >> caller: hi, how are you doing? >> stephanie: good. good. go ahead. >> caller: my biggest concern is the fact that, you know, with no shelters and what not, but -- you know, and that's a tragedy in itself in a situation, but my biggest concern is the fact that the democratic states seem to be waiting like louisiana and sandy, they seem to be waiting forever for the relief but yet texas they got their relief right away, and i'm kind of wondering too, you know, with oklahoma i don't know if they are democratic or republican it seems to be republican but i'm

not sure -- >> stephanie: oklahoma is a very red state. >> caller: oh, is it? i figured it was, but -- i was just concerned with everything else going on i -- you want relief for everyone, but i'm just concerned wondering why the democratic states aren't getting any help from the republicans to get the relief they need for sandy -- >> stephanie: yeah, that definitely was a disgrace the people that voted against hurricane sandy. and new jersey is one of those states that gives back so much more than they take out federally anyway, and all of these republicans from red states voted against it. we'll see what they do with this. >> yeah. >> stephanie: forty-five minutes after the hour. we'll continue with more. >> and now here's something we hope you really like. >> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show."

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will be effected when they started having tornado warnings yesterday, the building actually goes off with an automatic warning, and one of the areas where people are supposed to go to is the office area where i work. and a lot of people were congregating in my office, and everybody that ended up in my office, lives in moore, so i haven't really determined exactly, to the extent how much people are affected because it is still kind of early here but the point i guess i wanted to make was there was a lot of screeching going on in the twitter verse yesterday, and this comes back to a point that i think that mudcat used to make about how liberals view people in red states and i think what people in -- i grew up in oklahoma. i think one of the reasons that liberals have a hard time winning over conservatives is that at times like this they try -- have a tendency to be a

little preachy, and sort of we're the enlightened ones and we know about climate change and you keep electing these people, and that really turns people off. you win people over by donating and -- and asking what you can do to help you know? >> stephanie: yeah, mike, we -- i make your points we have said that obviously many times already. text red cross to 90999 to donate $10, but we said the same things during sandy. i'm just saying it is something we have talked about consistently is climate change. >> caller: absolutely and i'm not speaking specifically about the show. i have just seen people comment that are really uncalled for.

>> stephanie: yeah mike i don't know what people there think about -- that i don't understand on the human level either is tom coburn literally on the say it happened saying i need offsets. >> caller: i think he is covering his butt there. he doesn't want to appear to be a hypocrite. so you have to give him credit for that, but the whole thing is silly when you talk about disaster re disaster relief. >> stephanie: yeah, mike i think -- i think that's the problem, though, it just seems these days there is nothing that not political. >> caller: yes exactly. and you have a political talk show, there's no way to avoid it. i just think it's an opportunity to win people's hearts over when you say hey, we care about you and we feel your pain. and i know you are doing that.

you do that very well. >> stephanie: mike thank you for your note last night. because people that obviously love you and love all of the stuff you send to the show and i know you have been running from the law and live in different states -- but i don't know that people knew that you -- [overlapping speakers] >> stephanie: but thank you, honey for the i'm okay message. that is required of my friends. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: because i had -- for a moment i had forgotten you moved back to oklahoma, but of course that is what happens at times like this. people panic when they have loved ones in these areas. what it is -- you were saying that the people -- so you may very well know people that -- that -- god forbid -- >> caller: i have only been at this job three weeks, so i really don't know anybody. but the two or three congregated in my office all either lived in

moore or had close friends, and [ inaudible ] from the chat room had an aunt and cousin that lived right where the tornado hit, and he wasn't able to get any word them from. >> stephanie: this is a level 4, and i snow some people that lived through the level 5 one there said this one seemed worse. >> caller: yeah, the way i understood it to be described on tv is it was wider. i saw the damage from the '99 one, and you never forget that it's just amazing what it looks like. and the reporter on channel 4 here was saying he thought it was possibly the most destructive tornado in human history in terms of the amount of destruction in a populated

area. but the '99 tornado started earlier, and they had a full 45-minute warning, and it happens after 6:00 in the evening when kids weren't in school. a lot of problems here is the parents refused to leave the area until they knew how their kids were. >> stephanie: how much warning did you have with this? >> caller: the first tornado warning was affecting an area like 12 miles to the southwest of here and moore is 12 miles to the southeast of here. so that was an another tornado that was earlier, so that alerted us all to sort of watch the media. so i think we watched for a good 30 minutes before the moore tornado really took hold and started to have its effect. i think people in moore may have had 15 or 20 minutes warning. >> stephanie: and i -- i heard somebody commenting it looks

like we lost our hospital. that has got to be hard when the hospital is one of the things hit. how much farther to people have to go then that were injured? >> caller: exactly. and also there was no way to get in and out of the area. the roads were torn up or shut down by the authorities, and self-service wasn't working, so transportation and communication were a problem, never mind just the emergency response. i'm sure you saw the video, it looked like total chaos. >> stephanie: yeah, and i remember hearing the faa impose a temporary flight restriction because they said they needed quiet obviously to search for buried survivors. and this is i suppose good news for the moment that it looks like the death toll has been revised downward in the confusion of the moment.

>> caller: oh, i had not heard that. >> stephanie: yeah in the confusion some people have been counted twice or whatever. >> it has been reduced to 2 # # -- 24 right now. >> caller: and joplin was 120 or something. in terms of loss of life it appears to be less but because it is a much bigger city, people seemed to be much more aware of it for sure. >> stephanie: mike thank you so much for checking in with us. and our hearts go out to you and everybody in oklahoma. >> caller: and i'll let you know the next time i rent a u-haul. >> stephanie: i micro chipped you the last sexy liberal. all right. love you honey. fifty-eight minutes after the hour.

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[♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: okay. hour number 2, current tv land getting ready for the president to speak. >> i thought i move a lot. i didn't realize that mike has moved again. >> stephanie: yes, i am going to say running from the law, but i'm not sure. he is in the federal sexy liberal relocation program. he just moves closer to wherever the next sexy liberal is going

to be. >> he'll be himalayan mike soon. >> stephanie: exactly. but to be in the midst of that as close as he is -- i was so glad he texted because jacki knows this as my friend whenever she flies somewhere, i'm like land safe message, please. >> yeah i have a handful of people i just say the eagle has landed safely. >> stephanie: all right. here she is, jacki schechner. >> good morning, everybody, as we wait for the president to speak about the oklahoma tornado tragedy, we do have some other news to report today, albeit considerably less important in context. the senate finance committee is starting its irs hearing this hour. we'll hear from douglas shulman. he'll be answering questions for the first time. and we'll hear again from the

two men who testified last friday, steven miller and j russell george. shulman ran the irs from 2008 to late 2012, so he was in the guy in charge when the irs was paying close attention to tea party groups. he told congress definitively in march of 2012 that his agency was not targeting any particular organizations. >> first let me start by saying yes, i can give you assurances. as you know we pride ourselves on being a non-political, none partisan organization. >> we'll see what he has to say today. angry tea party activists are planning to pro test the irs at noon today. they are gathering outside of the irs in cincinnati and boston, but it's unclear where else they might be protesting. there was an online call to action, but not a lot of

definitive news as to where the protests might be. a group in california filed the first lawsuit against the irs. we're back. more show for you after the break, and hopefully the president's speech. marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

this show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but

somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right? [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome to it. six minutes after the hour. awaiting the president's speech about the tornado disaster in oklahoma. you can text the red cross, 90999 -- >> text the word red cross no space to that number. >> stephanie: yes, 90999. all right. if you just tuned in this -- i guess they are saying the deadliest u.s. tornado it looks like so far since 1900. i mean this is -- again, it's

obviously a lot of confusion. the death toll was downgraded to 24 confirmed dead. that could change obviously. we'll update you on all of that. but rocky mountain mike is in oklahoma city and was talking about it. it is just incredible. two miles wide. okay. here is the president now. >> obama: storms swept across the plains yesterday in one of the most destructive tornados in history, through the towns of newcastle and moore oklahoma. inan instant neighborhoods were destroyed. dozens of people lost their lives, many more were injured, and i among the victims were young children trying to take shelter in the safest place they

knew, their school. so our prayers are with the people of oklahoma today. our gratitude is with the teachers who gave their all to shield their children with the neighbors, first responders and emergency personnel who raced to help as soon as the tornado passed. and all of those who searched for survivors through the night. right now our full focus is on the hard work of rescue. i spoke with governor fallen to make it clear to oklahomians that they would have all the resources they need at their disposal. last night i issued a disaster declaration to expedite those resource to support the governor's team in the immediate response and offer direct assistance to folks who suffered loss. i also spoke with mayor lewis of

moore, oklahoma to ensure that he is getting everything he needs. i have met with secretary napolitano this morning, and lisa monaco to underscore that point that oklahoma needs to get everything that it needs right away. the fema administrator is on his way to oklahoma as we speak. fema's staff was first deployed to oklahoma's emergency depreciation center on sunday as the state was already facing down the first wave of deadly tornados. yesterday fema activated urban search and rescue teams from texas, nebraska and tennessee to assist, and a moebl response unit to boost communications and logistic call support. so the people of moore should know that their country will remain on the ground there for

them as long as it takes for their homes and schools to rebuild, businesses and hospitals to reopen. their parents to console, first responders to comfort, and of course children who will need our continued love and attention. are empty spaces where there used to be living rooms, bed rooms and classrooms, and in time we're going to need to refill those spaces with love laughter, and community. we don't yet know the full extent of the damage from this week's storm. we don't know both the human and economic losses that may have occurred. we know that severe rumbling of weather -- bad weather through much of the country still continues, and we're also preparing for a hurricane season that begins next week but if

there is hope to hold on to not just in oklahoma but around the country, it's the knowledge that the good people there and -- in oklahoma are better prepared for this type of storm than most and what they can be certain of is that americans from every corner of this country will be right there with them opening our homes, our hearts to those in need, because we're a nation that stands with our fellow citizens as long as it takes. we have seen that spirit in joplin, us the ka -- tuscaloosa boston, and those what the people of oklahoma need as well. the red cross is around on the ground in moore. the university will provide

housing for displaced families. and last night the people of joplin dispatched a team to help the people of moore. so for all of those who have been affected we recognize you face a long road ahead. in some cases there will be enormous grief that has to be absorbed, but you will not travel that path alone, your country will travel it with you fuelled by our faith in the all mighty and our faith in one another. so our prayers are with the people of oklahoma today, and we will back up those prayers with deeds for as long as it takes. thank you very much. >> stephanie: okay. and i'm sure the first question will be about benghazi from -- oh no, he's not taking any questions. that's probably why. >> yeah, it's not a press conference really. just a statement. >> stephanie: yeah. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number

toll free from anywhere. as chris was saying text the word redross to 90999 to donate $10. jill in ithaca. hi, jill. >> caller: good morning, happy belated birthday, jim. >> oh thank you. >> caller: recently -- i don't know what date but representative from minnesota glenn groovenhobber he got up and spoke about that there's no climate change. so i looked up his number and called him. and asked him when he is going to go out to oklahoma to help those people. because what is his motivation? is he being paid by gas and oil companies?

or is he just evil? i thought that republicans are about, you know, responsibility? where is the responsibility to your fellow citizens. >> stephanie: yeah and jill you heard what mike was saying about people don't like that when you seem like you are politicizing something right when it happens, but it is not politicizing talking about science. and we have talked about this obviously in the past we can't even have a conversation about what might be causing this. >> caller: right. i'm all for reaching out to the avenue person, but these politicians are not the average person, so i think i have -- they need to hear it. he is from minnesota. he is not from oklahoma. so he is not going through the feelings of tragedy right now, because it's not in his face. >> stephanie: and we were

talking about that everything is so politicized these days. just yesterday sarah palin, you know, tweeting the dopey joke about oh it's snowing in alaska in may. there's no global warming -- science doesn't happen on sarah palin's facebook page. >> science doesn't happen in her head. >> stephanie: yeah -- >> just a bunch of cotton candy stuffed in there. >> stephanie: she said on herr facebook page which is almost like scientific journal. global warming by gluteus max must. this is what global warming looks like in alaska. she refers to it as snake oil, when she was running for vice

president of the united states, she argued that humans have not influenced change in the climate. and i feel like we have gone backwards on science -- >> science has a liberal by liberal -- bias. >> they are lying about science so they are justify their own greed. pure and simple. >> uh-huh. and ties to the oil -- >> that's part of their own greed. >> stephanie: penny in oklahoma welcome. >> caller: yeah, i want to talk about the climate change issue and why people don't understand the fact that that's what is causing us to have these ungodly storms. number one i want to say thank you very much to all of the first responders, because when you are laying in the rubble you don't give a rat's behind whether that's a liberal or conservative pulling you out.

>> stephanie: how far are you from moore? >> caller: i'm about 30 miles. my husband works in oklahoma city, and my son lives in norman. so my husband from where he works -- he was watching this happen. >> stephanie: yikes. >> caller: but the tornado that hit norman on sunday was two miles south of my son, the one in norman was about five miles south. i had my grand baby's here because i have a storm shelter. >> stephanie: is that -- penny, chris was saying is that fairly expensive? >> it depends on the soil of where your house is. >> caller: and it depends on what you do. ours was $2,000 which $1,500 of it was covered by a government

grant. there are grants available to people. >> are they well-publicized in oklahoma? >> caller: it's one of those things where they do individual counties at a time. they don't do the whole state at once. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: but i live in logan county. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: and i think it was 2004, 2005 on the news one night they said they were going to open it up first hundred people that were there -- and of course we beat feet and got down there and lot it. >> stephanie: i hope more people pay attention to that now. >> uh-huh. >> stephanie: thank you to all of the folks calling from oklahoma this morning. eighteen minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: for a good time call now. 1-800-steph-1-2.

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♪ i'm [ inaudible ] for -- >> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ i'm freaking for my little baby, because she makes me feel good ♪ ♪ she's so fine ♪ >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." >> what happened to lenny kravitz kravitz? >> stephanie: he just acted in a big movie. >> oh, really? >> yeah. >> stephanie: if you just tuned in, we heard the president talking about the huge tornado in oklahoma the death toll has been revised downward, that's the good news. i believe it stands at 24 right now confirmed. >> i mean considering the size of that storm, it's pretty amazing that only 24 people -- >> well, so far.

>> stephanie: kevin in georgia. hi, kevin. >> caller: hi, stephanie. you guys were talking about the shelters the lady from oklahoma. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: i live on the eastern end of the tornado belt and i have been wondering why schools don't have mandatory shelters. >> stephanie: yeah, i guess as chris was saying there is different soil -- >> and i have a feeling that cost is involved with public buildings like that. >> caller: yeah, but the cost of how many lives -- >> i know. >> stephanie: exactly and then this happens -- >> and people are still talking about austerity. >> stephanie: including the republican senator from oklahoma who would like offsets before his district gets any financial aid there the government. joes joseph in virginia. hey, joe. >> caller: good morning.

>> stephanie: okay. >> caller: i never run across your program. i just going -- >> stephanie: huh oh. >> caller: i had shoulder surgery and just ran across your program. can you hear me? >> stephanie: yes. >> caller: and you were talking about the global warming thing that -- that -- the thing i call totally completely supporting the scientists on your views, but i notice that y'all never mention what the bible has to say about it. >> the bible has something to say about global warming? >> caller: yes? >> what chapter? what verse? >> caller: revelations, matthew 24. >> what does it say? >> caller: let me ask something, if you ever read it? that's my question to you. >> i have read the bible.

>> stephanie: yes. >> caller: then you should know what i'm referring to. >> stephanie: what is your point. >> caller: if you read it, you tell me what verse it is. >> stephanie: joseph you are saying this is biblical in time it doesn't have anything to do with science. >> caller: i'm not mixing science -- [overlapping speakers] >> caller: it talks about when the nation turns her back on god. >> stephanie: oh. >> uh-huh. >> caller: so y'all never mention this you always -- humanistic and secular thinking, you never reference anything as to what the bible has to say compared to what your points are. and i wonder why y'all do that. >> stephanie: okay. because i -- first of all you just found our show so the fact that you haven't heard anything about the bible in 20 minutes of

what we have been talking about doesn't mean we never talk about it, we do. but you think is god's like -- >> wrath? >> caller: and how has the country turned our back on god? >> caller: just like abortions. do you think that's godly? homosexuality do you think that's godly. >> you really have been listening to the show. >> stephanie: oh, dear. >> it's all of those gay abortions. >> stephanie: oh, dear. [ inaudible ]! >> stephanie: yikes if he would have kept listening a little longer -- >> we would have found out he was talking to one of the homosexuals -- >> and maybe more than one.

>> apparently you caused the tornado in oklahoma. >> stephanie: right. right. perry in oklahoma. >> caller: hi i know something about holes being dug in that region. it's very rocky or it's solid rock, and you have to drill holes and put dynamite in the ground and blast it. and it's expensive, but the utility contractors, they have no problem digging trenches with dynamite. >> but saving kids -- >> caller: that's right. >> stephanie: perry it is a good point about priorities that jim just alluded to. we say that's too expensive, and you know -- i mean we'll see if the conversation changes after this, but i don't know. like you say, jim, when that's your religion austerity -- >> yeah, it's too expensive.

>> that's turning your back on god too. >> rich people night have to pay taxes and we can't have that. >> stephanie: right. robert in texas. you are on the "stephanie miller show." hi, robert. >> caller: good morning, yeah, any god that wants to punish children like that is not a god i want to be involved with. >> stephanie: yeah. yeah. >> caller: i was listening to ari last night and they had a caller bring up this similar type of thing, and then ari checked some websites and they found out on the climate change there is very little to do with tornados in all of the climate change. hurricanes and everything else -- >> stephanie: we have to continue after the break. and charlie pierce on the "stephanie miller show." gets that i actually mean it. michael shure: this show is about being up to date so a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway.

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now? >> stephanie: yeah. >> i didn't know the mighty power of your gayness was enough to control the weather. >> stephanie: yeah me and my big gay abortions. it is because god -- we turned our back on god, and blah blah -- >> this is what i never understand where this argument, if god sends really bad weather to punish us for our sins, why doesn't it hit vegas. >> yeah. and someone on twitter just said there should be a pillar of fire heading right for this studio. >> stephanie: right. charlie, it just seems like every other day there is some horrible tragedy. >> this is incredible -- my mother -- this is an old family story.

my mother was alone during the great worcestershire tornado during 1963, which was at the time the largest tornado -- before ohio was the largest tornado east of the mississippi. and every time the sky got dark my mother would hide under the bed. and this was even bigger than that. and when you cement -- see elementary schools blown apart it is incredible. >> stephanie: yeah you are absolutely right, how terrifying this had to be. just all of it two miles wide, the -- >> two miles wide and on the ground for 45 minutes, that's the amazing thing. >> stephanie: yeah. and you heard the president's

speech -- he talked about prayers, he said prayers with deeds, which obviously what everybody is talking about this morning, charlie is republican senator tom coburn from oklahoma said oh, i need offsets. >> remember now he is a reasonable guy. he is a freakin' monster to do this. to use the suffering of his own people to extort budget cuts? who thinks like this? who makes this calculation 12 hours after an entire town is obliterated. >> stephanie: yeah, and somebody well, he is consistent. yeah, he's consistently a jerk. >> he voted for the bank bailout, katrina relief the war in iraq. let's not bring principled stances into this, please.

>> stephanie: yeah, a woman from oklahoma said people will vote for a people like tom coburn because they hate obama so much. >> the interesting one i saw was the warm-up act which was obviously reince priebus. >> reince priebus! >> stephanie: yes. >> and he is by god going to break the power of debate moderators, that was the big deal in his speech. he's not going to take this from anderson cooper anymore. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: you know, and charlie speaking of words and deeds, like we were saying of course we get accused immediately of you can't bring up climate change and then you have sarah palin with her dumb facebook posting yesterday.

that kind of thing we hear every day in the wake of all of these extreme weather events we're not supposed to talk about that ever. >> that to me -- i think 12 centuries from now when the survivors are all living on pluto, future historians are not going believe the way we have eliminated this entire subject from -- the debate over the existence of the subject let alone its consequences. >> stephanie: exactly. they are going to go you denied what 99% of the scientific community thought? >> and the fact that your weather has gone completely mad. >> stephanie: right. right. >> it has gone mental. >> stephanie: yeah, we have had this discussion it's like why has this version of the republican party move sod far right and so far anti-science

the john mccains and those that were considered reasonable a few years ago, i thought there used to be consensus. there was certainly consensus on disaster relief. >> stephanie: yeah. >> but everything -- everything -- everything is now about somebody's perception of the budget. and at this point with the budget deficit going down, this isn't about economics anymore. this is about the puretive -- you know, the purification rituals of suffering. >> stephanie: yeah. >> you enact enough suffering you make us a better people. >> stephanie: yeah and you wrote about our old gal, the girl with the far away eyes michele bachmann. they will politicize anything and try to connect anything to anything that makes the

president look bad. >> yeah and if this were -- if tom coburn -- isn't the absolute crystallization of everything that particular political ideology is about, i don't know what is. one day after, and he was talking about offsets. >> stephanie: yeah. >> and as the woman who called you will say, this guy will get reelected. or somebody like him will get elected. >> stephanie: yeah. we have been talking all week about the watergate and you say by this philosophy every chef with knives is a member of the

manson family. >> yeah. i said this -- when john mccain tells me that torture doesn't work. i take his work for it. when john dean tells me something isn't watergate, i take his word for it. because before john dean became a hear -- hero he was a crook. >> that's right. >> stephanie: he is a republican from the nixon white house. >> who went to jail. >> stephanie: right. right. speaking of republicans, you call -- you direct your attention to the lovely state of wisconsin for scott walker. >> yeah, he is putting everything up for sale. you want to by a dorm? how about a prison? >> stephanie: yeah, you say scott walker seems he and his

pet legislature has decided to put what is left of the state's public pat ramonny out on the driveway to see who will show up in a mini van to haul it away. and this guy is running for president, right? >> oh, absolutely. and do not sleep on him. he beat the enemy back twice. he has a battle scar that none of these other guys will have. >> stephanie: yeah. >> he has dodged every bullet. he was in iowa this weekend. he is thinking about it, believe me. >> stephanie: i think you were also instruct by donald rumsfeld

talking about the obama administration. >> yeah. let's give him another oil tankers and see what he does with it wee! >> stephanie: great stuff charlie as usual. >> yeah, and listen send money, pray, and do what you can for the folks of oklahoma. and there is another weather pattern shaping up today. this was implemented in my own family family family lore since birth. >> stephanie: all right. charlie thank you. thank you honey. [ applause ] >> stephanie: all right. forty-five minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> oh i like her! >> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show." compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you?

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>> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ let's send the night together i need you more than ever let's spend the night together now ♪ >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome it to. forty-nine minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. we were talking to charlie pierce, i love his break down of his sunday shows of "meet the press," he offers the actual transcript, and he was saying this is -- he calls him the dancing master, david gregory, and why he drives us both

insane. peggy noonan said this irs thing is something i have never seen in my lifetime. peggy, peggy, wait a second. miss -- richard nixon specifically directed people to do this. noonan noonan: but this is so brood. gregory: uh-huh. he box down -- >> it's worse you are right. >> stephanie: it is worse than watergate, you are right. >> it is the worse than the holocaust, yes, you are so

right, peggy. >> stephanie: jay carney yesterday. >> on april 24th the white house counsel was informed that the inspector general was completing a report about [ inaudible ] irs employees improperly scrutinizing what are known as 501(c)(4) organizations, by using words such as tea party and patriot. >> stephanie: you can criticize that why didn't the president know about this? but it's the exact opposite of nixon. nixon directed it. he planted someone at the irs and directed them who to audit. the president -- and that was the news that came out yesterday. white house chief of staff and others new about this in late april, but the other advise source did not tell obama so he -- and you were saying jim i think jon stewart's spoof is

that he heard about it on the news. the white house cites the reason for that because they want to avoid this nixonian stuff. jay carney defended keeping obama out of the loop. it is absolutely a cardinal rule as we see it to not intervene in ongoing investigations. obama advisors the outcry from republicans would have been far worse if he would have known it before it became public. i think we have already learned the president can do no right in the right-wing world. >> but they were not solely a -- you know a social welfare outfit. they clearly were political. and putting in a new guy, who

will change the original wording -- >> stephanie: right. this is why this is the opposite of watergate as the ap is noting in this story. a white house peaking into an ongoing investigation would be considered a political uproar. and jay carney yesterday. >> after that initial notification in april, the white house counsel informed other members of the senior staff. at no time did anyone on the white house staff intervene with the investigation. [♪ "jeopardy" theme music ♪] >> stephanie: okay. this is different in ever way. not only not worse than watergate -- >> it's not remotely anything like watergate. >> it wasn't directed by the white house. >> stephanie: yeah. frank in texas. you are on the "stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, did you hear the news? god saved the diamonds!

[ laughter ] >> the what? >> caller: the mayor of moore, he has a safe room in his downtown jewelry store in moore, and he calls his employees there and said save the diamonds. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: right. and meanwhile as we were saying i guess they decided some schools don't -- >> apparently this one school that was built in 1960s before there were any requirements for any kind of safe rooms or cellars in schools or anything so -- >> stephanie: okay. david in georgia you are on the "stephanie miller show." hello, david. >> caller: hey, stephanie. you are a lovely lady, and i'm sure if you are liberal, people like your show. i am more conservative and i do have serious questions about global warming. >> stephanie: okay. >> caller: the scientists say there has been ice ages in the

past, the ice has frozen the ice has melted the ice as frozen and the ice as melted. man kind wasn't even around back then. and now you are blaming the republicans. >> stephanie: it's not me -- it is 99% of the scientific community has said it is real. >> caller: but why do you think it's the republicans? >> stephanie: -- >> it's industry. >> caller: 48% of the -- of our electricity in the united states is made from coal. you know, no carbon emissions is a noble cause, i understand that, but when we're swimming in a massive debt, how can you afford to get rid of 48% of our electrical generation and replace it with solar or wind. >> stephanie: nobody is talking about replacing all of it

immediately with solar and wind. it is a process -- >> and something we need to research -- >> china has been building a new coal-fired plant every week for the last seven years, and people can't breathe in beijing anymore. it's unsustainable. >> stephanie: yeah. samantha in alabama. >> caller: hi, i wanted to talk about the first gentlemen caller from georgia, and it's completely disgraceful to blame this disaster on turning our backs on god, because as a dis dis -- christian and democrat the bible does say be compassionate and help those less fortunate. and i think that is mostly the democratic view to help people. and to blame this -- it is

horrible. >> stephanie: yeah. it's a basic difference in philosophy that should government be any part of the solution? and i think yes. >> sometimes government is the only entity that is big enough to help. >> stephanie: i mean can you imagine this without fema. >> right. >> stephanie: there is a scope where not all government is not bad. let's go to marla? michigan. >> caller: you can't fix stupid the people that deny climate change. but let's talk about the republicans denying fema. they did not want fema in oklahoma. tom coburn who is a slime does not want it. so how is karma working out for them now? >> stephanie: yeah, well he -- he basically -- what he said this morning on the show is he wants offsets before

disaster relief. i mean it's -- and again, as charlie was saying disaster relief has never been political in this country. it just hasn't. >> who in their right mind would cut disaster relief? >> stephanie: yeah, and what better time than in the midst of a disaster. >> can we offset it with oil subsidies. >> stephanie: oh, of course. we were talking about rumsfeld being on "meet the press," our friend dean obediallah calling in next hour with a hilarious view of rumsfeld's book. right back on the "stephanie miller show." ♪

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>> stephanie: all right. hour number 3, current tv land jacki schechner the war on women just when you thought there was a lull -- >> yeah? >> stephanie: it's back. miscarriaged would be required to be reported to the police or risk going to jail for a full year. virginia republican selected this guy to replace tea party guy ken cuccinelli -- >> this is the same guy that compared planned parenthood to the kkk. >> stephanie: right. this is a bill he just introduced. so in a moment of private

tragedy, you'll have to get on down to the police. >> this is a man clearly sensitive to women's concerns and bodies. >> stephanie: and you thought transvaginal bob was bad. >> leave it to virginia i guess. >> stephanie: here she is jacki schechner in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody. president obama gave a short statement last hour, pledging the nation's support for those effected in oklahoma. >> obama: the people of moore should know that their country will remain on the ground there for them beside them as long as it takes. >> he added we still don't know the full extent of the damage and the loss. we're hearing from former irs commissioner douglas shulman for the first time. >> i am six months out of

office. i have now had the benefit of reading the report, and that's -- you know the full accounting of facts that i have at this point, so i -- i don't think i can answer that question. >> and then there's another senate hearing that is worth paying attention to. apple ceo is testifying to the report that apple is avoiding pay many of its taxes by shifting its profits to a subsidiary in ireland. it says it pays taxes overseas because it sells overseas, but it has not paid any corporate taxes in the last five years. the report found it avoids paiding another $9 billion. so we'll see what happens from that hearing today. we're back after the break. ♪

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[♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome it to. six minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. don't forget you are text redcross without a space or anything to 90999 and donate $10. obviously we are all watching oklahoma this morning. >> and they text you a receipt in return. >> stephanie: there you go. prayers and deeds as the president said this morning. i am frequently on cnn with our good friend dean obediallah. we always enjoy each other, and he joins us now and has a great new piece of donald rumsfeld. good morning, sir. >> good morning. >> stephanie: you say twitter has become the new fight club.

>> it has. and i'm like facebook is not like that. i'm like facebook is not dangerous. twitter is savage people fight with each other. but i fight with people all the time on the right, but as long as we keep it about the substance or do cutting remarks about each other that are comedic things but the racist and homophobic things are escalating, and we have to self police it. we have to be like hey, make fun of me all day, don't do racist crap, let's have fun and fight. >> stephanie: that's why i don't engage, because chris what is the source of all evil? >> facebook. >> stephanie: right. and twitter. people just feel free to let their id out, right? >> anonymous. >> stephanie: as you say racist sexist homophobic whatever.

>> that's why i made the reference to fight club. where a guy would fight with people in the basement of a bar, and i think people do that on twitter, they use that duality of life, and if you are being racist and sexist homophobic it is still wrong on twitter. let's keep it about the issues. >> stephanie: dean we're acquainted with this on talk radio, because callers are announcement, and you would not believe some of the [ censor bleep ] we hear on this show. and as you say the anonymity of twitter -- you said you have been called a towel head and also a study guinea. >> yeah i actually find it

refreshing when they use ethnic italian slurs. the most i get about being muslim. and i have such a thick skin as a comedian and i appeal to some people. i'm like let's be better. if you see people spewing hate and garbage, say to them only 13% of americans are on twitter. it's a special place. tell people let's keep it about whatever -- >> stephanie: whatever you are debating. >> people tell me i'm not funny all the time. i get that. but enough of the towel head. and the things that say about latinos, gay people, horrific stuff being said. >> stephanie: i just got accused this morning of causing the tornado, because apparently it

is because of gays. >> well, was there a debate? pat robertson said it and fallwell, that's the risk of not checking those guys because people start believing their crap. >> stephanie: exactly. i shared your sense of irony watching doneald rumsfeld talk about the incompetence of the obama administration. >> yeah, i wrote for "the daily beast," my first article ever for them so i hope people check it out. on his point of view, it's a mix between the game of throwns meets the secret. it tells you how to rule and take over other countries. he gives you rules on all walks of life and when you read the

rules they make rumsfeld sound like a cross between steve johnson and gandhi. unfortunately he is not following any of the rules. >> stephanie: you say if jodi areas wrote a book some day on how to have a relationship -- >> if i'm writing a book i'm going to make myself sound great. if you are giving advice you are going to say this great stuff. there's nothing amazing about it. it's very simple like don't blame your boss and be honest and all of this stuff. learn to say i don't know is my favorite. yeah, i wish you would have said that about the weapons of mass destruction. if you didn't know. i wish he would have said i didn't know. >> stephanie: yeah. it is hilarious, you say there

is a glaring problem with rumsfeld following this formula in the book, it's a little thing called google. and you go one by one. this is one of my favorites the proper preparation prevents poor performance. >> proper preparation would mean if we're going to iraq at least prepare the troops with the right armor they need for their vehicles, and in 2004, some soldiers said why do i have to go through landfills to find armor to protect my vehicles. and he said you go to war with the army you have not what you wish to have at a later time. he goes look you get what you get. suck it up buddy, we're days you a dollar or day, or whatever, and putting your life on the

line -- so to me it was ridiculous, and people will buy this crap from him, and he is making money from it and the philosophy is fine, just i wish he followed it. >> stephanie: yeah, and the other one is don't blame the boss, he has enough problems. and the widespread lewding after saddam hussein was toppled. rumsfeld famously said ah stuff happens. >> at least he blamed the people of iraq for having freedom not his own failings. when you get rid of the security apparatus in there, man will become a beast and rob company he can. how would you not -- anyone sit around with any competence and go we might want to plan if we get saddam hussein out. >> stephanie: yeah freedom is

untidy. >> i think he is the original donald -- like forget trump. if anyone says you are fired it's rumsfeld. he is mean -- he treated condy rice horribly. he really is not a good human being, i think. and the fact that he is not in jail is probably -- he should be ecstatic, instead he is writing books about how great a guy he is. >> stephanie: and you say in his defense he followed the plan for uncertainty, when he was instrumental for securing weapons on both sides in the conflict. and you say when you think about it makes sense why bet on just one horse in a two-horse race. >> yeah. i had to pat him on the back for that one. plan for uncertainty. there's two sides of conflict in

a ten year war, don't let them both know it. i'm inspired by him. i'm going to make a book about comedy and say i'm the greatest comic in the world, and hope nobody googles it. >> stephanie: all right. thanks, honey. >> thanks a lot. [ applause ] >> stephanie: free people are free to do bad things. it's the way it goes. >> the price of freedom. >> stephanie: sue in california. >> caller: hi, how are you. wonderful show stephanie. you are the greatest. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: i wanted to address the earlier nut case that called about you guys aren't familiar with the bible. do you know i think it's your own fault to tell you the truth. these disasters get worse and worse. i mean come on in oklahoma

200 mile an hour wind on the ground for 40 minutes and the first thing that comes out of the media is biblical proportions, epic -- this goes right to the heart of those crazies. don't you understand? you are playing to what they believe. this god. it has nothing to do with global warming or scientific anything. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: it -- it's -- you have got to stop that because you are giving them the ammunition they want. >> stephanie: i see. it we are hear by banned saying biblical proportions. dogs and cats living together also banned. seventeen minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> the following program is closed cam -- captioned for the thinking impaired.

is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

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to donate $10 instantly. hi, jane. >> caller: good morning, stephanie. i would like to talk about the fact that we have established this area of this tornado alley, maybe the government ought to start contemplating some imminent domain to give nature itself path. and we need to perhaps think of the dust bowl mentality of relocating people. i know it hits a lot of different states but if we start reconsidering more being hit how many times in how many years, we might want to reconsider rebuilding and rebuilding only to be destroyed and if you are going to do it, at least establish truly safe areas. and not drowning pools for these poor children, and i spoke to you about 12 years ago when i

lived in california and i have waited a long time to get on, but thank you for hearing this. >> stephanie: oh wow. >> caller: but i think we need to consider pushing for go regulations -- >> stephanie: i wonder if the right will be at all cooperative in that regard? >> caller: i doubt it very much. >> stephanie: i wonder how soon it will be before we hear hitler on that one. >> it's also easier said than done on that one. you hear people say why don't we just move people out of california every time there is an earthquake. you can't do that, really? >> stephanie: yeah. and there are always those kind wishes that we actually float off into the sea. >> yes, thank you for that. >> stephanie: daryle in new jersey. >> caller: hi, stephanie. love your show. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: this is kind of a philosophical question but it in response to the man who was making comments about god and

man kind and gays and things like that. i'm kind of agnostic on the god question. but i can't understand how people can reconcile a good god with the national tragedies like happened yesterday. >> stephanie: as rude pundit has said, your god is kind of a [ censor bleep ]. seriously? that's the kind of a god you believe it. someone who says i don't like gays i think i'll kill some school children in oklahoma. >> yeah, as i was watching the disaster yesterday, i just couldn't understand how anyone could still look at god and say he -- he has our best interest. >> people want to believe in an all-powerful good god. he is either all powerful and -- >> stephanie: and a jerk. >> if he is that good then he must be incompetent.

if he's not incompetent, he's evil. >> stephanie: i wonder if we'll get any calls on that thought. rock in south carolina. hi, rock. >> caller: i'm wondering if the guy in georgia ever considered in his reasons for the devastation in oklahoma the fact that no county in oklahoma voted for barack obama? >> stephanie: yeah. pat robertson never has any explanation for when [overlapping speakers]. >> caller: but the religious left never blames natural disasters on the failings on the right, but it is always the other way around. >> stephanie: that's right. let's go to dan in florida. >> caller: hello. yeah, i just wanted to comment about the caller who said, you know god is killing children

because we're doing homosexuality. in the bible there is nothing about homosexuality. they only refer to beastiality. i believe in god, but i also believe in science. we're 750 million metric tons of poison into the air every day. >> stephanie: yeah, why can't we believe in god and science? >> absolutely. god is the ultimate scientist. but these people are any flat earth society. they are the same ones who undermine our sanctions against iran, you know [ inaudible ] on wall street, don't pay a dime in tax, you know what i mean? hedge fund managers? [ inaudible ] has been ripping us off since ronald reagan and they just keep -- you have got to be stupid. >> stephanie: yeah reverend jim

wallace is so good on this topic. and a lot of christians are talking about it. about global warming in the context of religion. remember ann coulter, saying god said the planet is yours, take it, rape it. marsha you are on the "stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, it's marcia. >> stephanie: oh sorry. >> caller: it's okay. happens all the time. one, i think arguing that -- about the climate change like the guy calling earlier who said he was a conservative and really wanted to understand how we could take this argument i think for those people it would be best if we changed our dialogue to zero waste and zero

pollution, because if we aim for a goal -- we don't need to change what they believe, we need to change how they vote. so if they can't get with that maybe they can just vote for cleaning up? >> stephanie: yeah, at the very least. twenty-nine minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ (vo) next, current tv is the place for compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

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same time. >> stephanie: right. it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome it to. thirty-four minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. as we have been saying all morning, text redcross at 90999, and you can automatically donate $10 to help out in oklahoma. let's go to rob in long island. >> caller: hey stephanie. i wanted to say something to jim just real quick, since he did say that about god and power, god is proof that absolute power corrupts [ inaudible ]. i keep forgetting the comedian's name that was just on -- >> stephanie: dean. >> caller: thank you. the quote from donald rumsfeld about knowing where the weapons of mass destruction were.

the whole quote went we know they are in crete and bagdad and north southeast and west of there. i was waiting for somebody to say, everybody is north, south, east and west of everything. so isn't that saying you don't know? >> stephanie: yeah. >> that was when i found air america radio, and i started listening to randy rhodes and eventually stephanie miller, tom hartman and all of these guys, and i'm really grateful for all of you guys because you hear stuff like that and nobody is bothering to say boo about it -- >> it's just north of east south, west, south land. >> stephanie: right. you really are comparing and contrasting with anything that happened in the obama administration and the bush

administration. [♪ magic wand ♪] >> yeah, and the mayor of moore oklahoma was on cnn, and the mayor was asked why didn't the school have a storm shelter, and the mayor said only schools built after 1999 in oklahoma were required to have one. so the cnn reporter said why didn't this school have one? and they just said it was cost. >> stephanie: yeah. sue in rockville. >> caller: hey, good morning. two quick things and for the climate deniers they need to get very close. i'll speak slowly. the earth will be fine. in the millions and millions of years of earth's existence there will be adaptations to climate. it's whether we humans will make ours extinct. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: what our human body are not able to breathe and be sustained in the climate we're

allow allowing to be created. so please grow a brain? yes. >> caller: and you say tomco born is at least consistent -- >> stephanie: he is consistently douchy. >> caller: you know who else was consistent? come on, jim? >> in some ways hitler wasn't consistent. [ laughter ] >> because he was hell bent on wiping out jewish people yet he was a big fan of peter lori. and he wanted him to come back to germany and shoot more films, and he said no thanks. >> stephanie: if you heard our earlier bible thumper who stumbled across my show -- a lot of people who are re covering

from surgery stumble across my show -- >> you gave him agita. >> stephanie: and we gave him specifically gay abortions. >> that's why there is weather. >> stephanie: right. all right then. but by the by. gay rights make people like him uncomfortable, but with the gay lie that was killed in grenenwich village, and this high school girl -- >> yes oh my god. >> stephanie: a girl expelled from high school and charges over a lesbian relationship with another -- florida high school student kaitlin hunt was 17 and began dating a 15-year-old teammate on the girl's basketball team. the parents never complained but

a few months after kaitlin turned 18, the younger girl's parents had her arrested and charged with a felony. >> statutory rape. >> stephanie: also got her expelled from school. and then she got the school board to expel her. enter anonymous the global hacker collective. they have launched twitter hashtag. she is a bright young girl who was involved in a consensual relationship. sort of a shocking story, right? >> yeah. >> stephanie: i'm just trying to see if there's any other -- yeah, her mother said -- they are off to destroy my daughter because they feel she made their daughter gay. i don't see it differently.

even if their daughter is gay who cares, she is still their daughter. >> have there been similar heterosexual things like that? >> stephanie: yeah. >> did they prosecute them? >> stephanie: it just seems egregious, and she was kicked off of the basketball team by the coach in order to avoid drama. >> now it's nationwide drama, and has hit facebook. >> stephanie: yeah. it's hard -- i think when somebody tries to claim it doesn't have to do with sexuality, come on -- >> we're not dumb. >> stephanie: come on now. since we have been talking about climate change all morning i just blind you with some more facts. ♪ science ♪ >> stephanie: we have to talk about -- and we got a bitch slapping -- >> we? >> stephanie: from a

specialist -- it's interesting, though. because we do believe in science here at the "stephanie miller show." everybody -- a lot -- and people still talking about angelina jolie and her decisions. he writes there was talk about her decision to have a pre-emptive double mastectomy. i have something to say on this spinoff discussion on causes of cancer. i am the official nothing of the "stephanie miller show." [ bell chimes ] >> stephanie: welcome. but i have to be a cancer epidemiologist. cancer rates are not dramatically different now from jim your listener or you or i are kids people are more aware of it now because it is much more salient to our lives than the average ten year old. to suggest we're witnessing an

epidemic, is not the fact. truth is overall cancer mortality has held roughly constant since the 50s. during this time there was a genuine surge of huge proporeions of lung cancer deaths then the mortality of other cancers has declined over time. everyone thinks they know which topics chemicals caused the death of their friend of loved one, but these cause only a trav yal part of the cancer burden in the country if they cause any at all. we still promote these theories of the boogie man poisoning us

all, but probably 99% of the cancer in the u.s. has nothing do with that. he said number one smoking is still the biggest cause of cancer in the country. number two alcohol. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: what? >> stephanie: cancer buzz kill. if consumed in large quantities most people don't drink close to the level that significantly increases risk. number 3 obesity a risk factor for almost every cancer. he said we may see a reversal in the downward trends in cancer incidents. americans are largely sedentary. number 5 diet. the details are controversial, but i think there is little doubt that eating a diet high

in -- anyway all of the things you not supposed to eat and then he goes on about the genetic things. he said of course geneticsplay a role, but not in a way that most people think. the number of people who have a cancer gene is tiny. 95% or more of all cancer is sporadic. genes play a role in everything the body does, but the gene does not predestine these people to cancer. [ inaudible ] somewhat less than a public service, anti-intellectual, anti-science anti-rigorous thinking, and it distracts that our lifestyle is

the problem. people have national platforms like radio shows shouldn't say thing -- he is saying get the facts -- >> when was the last time we had an above ground nuclear testing? >> early 60s. >> stephanie: all right. >> he was measuring cancer rates since the 1950s, that was the nuclear age. >> stephanie: right. the point is well-taken that you -- because you were saying when you were a kid you didn't know other kids that had cancer. >> no, and it seems like it is normal now. >> stephanie: and he is saying if you going -- google -- any way, forty-five minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> not bad, like frisbee golf

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♪ ♪ oh, oh you got the best of -- >> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ oh, oh you got the best of -- >> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome to it. fifty minutes after the hour. joplin reaches out to help in oklahoma. those are the headlines that you love to see. people obviously all over the country texting redcross at 90999. by the way another happy thing in the midst of the tragedy.

[♪breaking news theme♪] >> stephanie: chely wright welcomed twins over the weekend. she and her lovely wife lauren have two twin boys that were born over the weekend. hooray! >> congratulationses to them. >> stephanie: we were talking about that obviously after sandy hook it was not the right time to talk about guns. now and it's not the time to talk about climate change. >> it is never a good time to talk about anything. >> we say nuts to that. >> now is not the time to talk about nuts. >> stephanie: paul has sent me the gop logic thing. everyone in america having a gun will make us safer everyone in america having health care will destroy us. does that make sense? [ applause ] >> stephanie: steph since the bushes like to call themselves 41 and 42, let's refer to bill

clinton as 41, and hilary 42. michelle malkin. >> this kind of brass knuckle intimidation whether it's directed towards grass root activists and small nonprofits this is a theme that has been played over and over again with the obama campaign. >> i'm glad she acknowledged her id iocracy. >> no ideology. >> oh. >> stephanie: jay carney. >> he is also as i have said as president and as a citizen insistent upon the need to make sure that classified leaks that can endanger our national

security and endanger the lives of the men and women overseas be taken seriously. >> stephanie: brian in oklahoma you are on the "stephanie miller show." hi, brian. >> caller: hey, steph. first time caller. i love you guys. watch you every day. hard to be a liberal in oklahoma. >> stephanie: how close are you? >> about an hour away from sawny. and 20 minutes away from senator tom coburn who it is disgusting that he would vote down and make this political at this time. but i also have a little downer for him, and a little bit of praise for our president. my wife works for the commerce department which is one of the jobs that the president has created since one of the -- 7 -- since -- what -- [ inaudible ]. >> right. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: yeah. yeah. okay. yeah, but -- and also for him to

respond within hours after -- after this tragedy, and, you know, how long it took bush to respond to katrina just shows -- sorry i'm getting a little nervous. >> stephanie: that's all right honey. norma in arizona. >> caller: hi, stephanie. i recently became a christian, but that doesn't mean i don't believe in science, because i am a liberal, but a lot of people in there talk about it's the end of time. revelations, storms increasing and i truly think the right-wing believes if they were to address climate change they would be going against god's will. >> wow. >> stephanie: i have the crazy idea that god might want us to take care of the planet.

>> caller: i know and i tell them that god created scientists true. >> stephanie: there you go. snap. richard in illinois on the same subject. >> caller: i'm a conservative evangelical, and i just believe that conversation wise you don't listen to us because i go to a lot of standard evangelical churches and all of them are very aware of global climate change, and do everything they can. the church that i go to? my small town we don't even have air conditioners because we don't want to add to the -- >> stephanie: richard i think it's that -- i think it's a that one caller that called that said i didn't say -- in fact i was making the point that a lot of christians do talk about climate change. >> caller: but it seems like the left or programs like yours want to always highlight those three people in the big church, and that represents the big church -- >> stephanie: no, we were

talking about the guy that called in. that's my -- was my point was i thought there used to be consensus even among christians and republicans that climate change was happening and caused by man. >> caller: the say and age of christians being republicans, that day has come and gone and the day and age that christians are democrats is going to come and go, because christians need to stand on their own against a corporatist kind of mentality on the right of being republicans, which is not compatible with christian life, and you look at the secularization of the united states where there has never been separation of church and state, but it's a [ inaudible ] now you have the democratic party championing it. >> stephanie: what do you mean there has never been separation of church and state? >> caller: when has it ever been -- i mean i wish you guys would read some books by william

[ inaudible ]. you can see the history of the united states was never to be oppositional towards religion -- >> stephanie: it was freedom of and freedom from religion if you wanted. >> caller: no. >> so you are saying [ inaudible ] have a place at the table. >> caller: that's quite acceptable historically but now you have you kind of people an organization started by a man who was vehemently anti-religion. he was a communist for god's sake -- >> stephanie: i thought you just said atheists do have a place at the table. >> so why doesn't the founder of the aclu have a place at the table? >> caller: because you have a factoid where the separation of church and state means that nobody can mention god anywhere

nobody can mention christ jesus -- >> nobody can mention is saying that nobody can mention god or christ in schools. >> stephanie: right. >> who said that. >> stephanie: i don't know. we're out of time sadly. we won't hear the rest of that argument today. >> i think he was just getting a little defensive. >> i am not defensive, shut up! >> stephanie: all right. we'll see you tomorrow on the "stephanie miller show."

>> i'm jacki schechner. it's noon eastern, and here's what's current. the senate finance committee hearing on the irs continues this hour. testifying for the first time is former commissioner douglas shulman who seems to be spending a lot of time reiterating the

fact he is no long we are the irs and hasn't been for six months. >> i'm six months out of office. when i left the ig was look going this to gather all of the facts. i have now had the benefit of reading the report and that's the full accounting of facts that i have at this point, so i don't think i can answer that question. >> also testifying again today is former acting commissioner steven miller and irs