[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: what? i'm here. >> barely. >> stephanie: good morning everybody. i just walked in here right this second, jacki schechner. >> way to cut it close ms. miller. >> stephanie: here's what's really fun because we're in the building here in l.a. a lot of radio showsss are in here that start at 6:00 a.m. pacific. you can tell everybody that is in o [ bleep ] mode. >> the producers are upstairs, where are my hosts?

>> the weeks i come out to burbank to see you i'm surprise when there is a guy or two whistling, carrying coffee. i'm like how are you this happy this early in the morning? >> stephanie: it was worse when ryan seacrest used to work here. >> you do not get in the same elevator as mr. seacrest. >> really? diva huh? >> stephanie: no eye contact. here she is. our open little diva, jacki schechner in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody. a lot going on today. president obama's going to hold a conference on mental health issues at the white house today. this is one component of the larger goal of lessening gun violence in america. while people are mental ill reasons statistically more likely to be victims than perpetrators of violence, the presumed mental illness of adam lanza, newtown shooter has brought it into the spotlight in control with the gun control movement.

the president is expected to speak at the top of next hour and at today's event the white house will launch an informational web site and also a schedule of mental health summits going to be held at 151 v.a. health centers across the country. >> private first class bradley manning will face court-martial today accused of leaking documents to the wikileaks web site. the largest leak in history. he pled guilty to 10 of the 22 charges against him but not the most serious which is aiding the enemy. if found guilty, manning faces life in prison. he says he leaked the information to expose the american military's blood lust and disregard for human life in iraq and afghanistan. manning's trial is expected to last all summer. as the i.r.s. faces its fourth congressional hearing today, we're now learning that the agency spent about $50 million on at least 220 conferences over a three-year period. one costs more than $4 million. about 2600 employees attended

the gathering which features a training video you see here, a "star trek" parody, a spoof of gilligan's island that cost about $60,000 to produce. we're back after the break. around the country and around the globe. >> bill press opens current's morning news block. >> we'll do our best to carry the flag from six to nine every morning. >> think conservatives have a stranglehold on the morning news? bill press invites you to think again as he tackles the hot issues on capital hill and beyond. >> just bringing you exactly what's happening in politics today by people who have a lot of experience, who know what's going on and who know what they're talking about. i'll tell you what energizes me to get up every morning is to get the first crack at the news, the first crack at the newsmakers. i know this stuff, i know what i'm talking about and i love it and i try to bring that to the

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you can tell the oh [ bleep ] crowd because we're fighting each other to get in the building first and get our security badges together and all of that stuff. it does look like that scene from zero dark thirty. some people rappelling in from helicopter. thank god ryan seacrest isn't still here. [ ♪ alleluia ♪ ] >> if you got in front of him in the elevator -- >> you do not get in the same elevator as mr. seacrest. >> i didn't get that memo so i rode with mr. seacrest. >> stephanie: he was very nice. the couple of times i saw him he was very nice. as people generally are that are multizillionaires and have nothing to be sad about. >> stephanie: i do not mean to imply that ryan seacrest has not earned his zillions of dollars a year. >> always on radio and always on radio. on every single market in america. >> maybe he's triplets.

>> ryan, ted and joe seacrest. >> stephanie: all right. you can tell my by my dorky tourist t-shirt that i was in carmel. i always wear it -- the new t-shirt right away the first day. my best friend's daughter was graduating from high school. good time was had by all. why? wine country. it was gorgeous. it was great. all right. >> what's his name still the mayor of carmel? >> no. >> stephanie: clint eastwood. i was wondering if i was going to see him. yelling at the chair. >> in a restaurant. >> stephanie: alas, i did not. the best thing about carmel, it is like dog heaven. there are dogs everywhere! >> like overrun by cogs? >> stephanie: yes. there was a newfy who stayed at our hotel and he wears a bib because he's drooly.

delightful. sorry. i'm still coming down off my dog heaven. >> spit his -- >> stephanie: he's from new england. lots going on in the newses as usual. we still have scandal pa la za -- palooza going on. oh boy. okay. meanwhile, by the way, we still got a sequester cuts that we've been talking about starting to kick in. it is like really? really? are we going to keep talking about benghazi and blah, blah, blah? here's the only good -- >> austerity. >> stephanie: right. terrific. by the way, we talked about this and we'll get to this in a second. but it was a great piece about how liberals have saved california. much too everyone's chagrin politically. it's exactly right jim. it is what you just alluded to, proving in practice exactly the opposite of this whole austerity

thing. we have a surplus now. we are like the united states as governed by clinton. >> we're back to where we were before the bush disaster. >> stephanie: we're our own little blue island out here. somebody is saying jerry brown has been undoing what schwarzenegger did and obama is undoing what bush did. got back in the copter. thank god he will not be back as it turns out politically speaking. it really -- it is a great piece about that it's not like we don't have any templates for what works and what doesn't work. it is working out here. obviously, the big story last week in healthcare was the rates are lower here than had been expected so that in blue states like this one that are going to be helpful, in the affordable care act, things are probably going to work very well in states -- texas talking to you -- just saying. just saying.

>> study just came out proving we're number one in medical costs. not by a long shot. but it is more expensive than anywhere else on earth. yea! america! >> stephanie: exactly. he doesn't have a box. i guess that goes without saying. >> well, sure. >> you would think. >> stephanie: here's some other magical news i have to say. >> okay. >> stephanie: a good piece in the "l.a. times" yesterday tea party tempest brewing. this is the movement is fired up as ever and just as unwilling to compromise which could spell trouble for the republican party [ ♪ alleluia ♪ ] >> stephanie: that's the difference. when i say there's a template for what's happening the president, obviously it is a bigger task. the other thing is we were able to get huge democratic majorities. that's why we're able to get things done that is helping and working. look what es up against. he doesn't have lyndon

johnson -- and he's got this party. this republican -- this tea party republican party. >> benghazi party. >> stephanie: so it is harder for him to undo what bush did. at any rate, i've got to read some of this. fine american, joel mcmanis because i sort of -- i kind of knew this but not really. [ ♪ battle hymn of republic ♪ ] the tea party is back. improved. remember everybody said it is going away. it is less in number but they're still just as troublesome. >> they are. >> stephanie: which is awesome. the tea party is back brewing trouble for the republican establishment after the g.o.p. debacle in the 2012 election. republicans not only failed to win the presidency but blew the chance to take over the senate. party leaders considered what went wrong. the rnc said it was an idea lol logical cul-de-sac. >> the word friendly and tea party should never be in the same sentence. >> stephanie: little

patronizing. speak in low tones to chicks. >> hi, how you doing? sorry you lost your job! >> stephanie: hello brown people. good morning! strategist karl rove said the lesson was to nominate more moderate candidates and raising money to do that. tea party and other leaders drew the opposite conclusion which i think is the correct one. >> yes, go with that. >> stephanie: yes. farther to the right. that was the message. absolutely. not one moderate challer won is what one of the tea party leaders said. the solution we're used to swing further to the right. yes, go, run like the wind. >> to the right to the right. >> stephanie: beyoncé could perhaps do another song for them. tea party is as fired up as ever. mcmanis writes even though the movement is smaller than it was -- >> very, tiny. hey, listen to us.

hey! >> like a gnat. >> or teensy fly. >> stephanie: like one of the smaller kardashians. >> there is no such thing as a small kardashian. they're pretty large. >> stephanie: i wouldn't know. >> one is getting larger. >> stephanie: one recent poll, 22% of american voters said they consider themselves tea party supporters. more than 350 tea party organizations are still operating however. that's why it plight have drawn some scrutiny numerically from the i.r.s. they've been re-energized by the scandals. i would say most of them are quasi scandals. >> that's quasimodo. sorry. >> stephanie: the approach of elections makes the tea party a major force, too. they have a track record of turning out for low participation primaries which is why they're going to keep going to the right because they're going to get teabagged in the primaries.

right? tea party supporters are responsible for almost all of the total campaign activity performed by party supporter ops the republican side. tea party supporters aren't just a faction within the republican party, they are a majority faction. the problem of course, is this majority faction holds views often at odds not only at odds but with the rest of the g.o.p. fight, fight fight. please! that polarization spells trouble in the house. no kidding. it spells trouble in the senate, too. party's newest star. senator ted cruz. ted cruz has brought old g.o.p. to the edge of rage by criticizing them as a bunch of squishes. >> wow. >> stop being so squishy. >> stephanie: he and other tea party -- have succeeded in blocking house senate budget negotiations charging talks might lead to a deal to lower the federal debt ceiling which they oppose. >> to the right, to the right.

>> stephanie: according to another survey, roughly 3/4 he said they would prefer a strong candidate. stand on your principles. you're correct. >> while you're -- wearing your tricorne hats, why don't you load muskets. >> stephanie: that's most second amendmenty ever you originalists. [ ♪ battle hymn of republic ♪ ] finally, on paper 2014 should be a good election year. democrats face an uphill battle to hold on to their 55-seat majority in the senate. they have at least one asset the civil war within the g.o.p. democrats may prove lucky. [ applause ] please. principles principles. stand on your principles. >> please do. >> stephanie: remember once again, to the right, to the

right. you are right. >> you are right. more important to be right than to win. okay. >> everything you own in a box to the right. >> stephanie: right okay. that's all i'm saying. i'm a helper. [ ♪ magic wand ♪ ] i'm helping. trying to help. you know what? at the end of the day, you'll sleep better. you'll feel better about yourself. >> when you have authentic uniforms and authentic muskets. [ ♪ hypnotic ♪ ] >> stephanie: winning is not what's important. don't be a squish! >> take off your lace panties. >> stephanie: don't be noodlebacks. i agree with tea party patriot. >> i say to the republican leadership, take off your lace panties, stop being noodlebacks. >> stephanie: squishy noodlebacks. >> they're the best kind. >> stephanie: that invite is all free. 17 minutes after the hour. we roll along on a monday on "the stephanie miller show." >> just implied that we all know what's going on in this thought bubble. the kids don't know but we do.

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they just want a brighter shine to their counters. she popped out of the 1953 vacuum ad. >> and look at that shine. >> while she smoked her chesterfield. >> as your physician i recommend smooth flavors. >> stephanie: all right. doctors did. they used to recommend smoking to pregnant women to calm them down. awesome! 23 minutes after the hour. this hour brought to you by sodastream. why? because fun wow. and 1,000 other reasons. >> we like the sound it makes. >> stephanie: there you go. it carbonates in seconds. sodastream makes soda quick and aides. it transforms water into fresh and fizzy soda. no disposing of bottles and cans. >> no disposing of botles. >> stephanie: it is environmentally friendly. >> we dispose with correct pronunciations here every day.

>> stephanie: guess how many flavors of soda there are. over 60. regular, diet, all natural energy drinks. you can get your favorite brand names that you love like country time, crystal light kool-aid in time for summer. yum! >> i love kool-aid. >> stephanie: marsha blackburn is a kool-aid mom. "hey kids, kool-aid! ". >> stephanie: no lie fructose corn syrup orss a -- or aspartame. like when marsha black burne popped out of the ad in 1953. macy's, kohl's or visit soda stream.com to find sodastream near you. anyway, we've been talking -- i was just reading this great piece from the l.a. times about the tea partiers like marsha blackburn, please and thank you. i don't remember why she said women don't want equal pay laws but it was a good one.

but anyway, they -- we were talking about the -- there was a piece -- sorry i'm not sure where, about how liberals saved california. we were talking about the -- they were making comparisons between how jerry brown -- but more importantly the democratic majorities have helped undo the mess that schwarzenegger made out here. thanks arnold. it is a lot tougher for the president obviously in a nationwide model with the obstructionism he's facing, in my opinion. this piece makes a lot of great points. contrary to the great man theory from brown's biographers liberal organization led the comeback by taking away the tools empowering republicans. the initiative allowing them to approve a budget passed in 2010 before brown's term began because he actually -- he says austerity-type stuff. it is not what works. i don't know how many times we can say this. democrats pad a sorely-needed --

democrats passed a sorely-needed -- we added a tax. that's why we have a surplus. this is what just -- irritates the bejesus out of me why we can't figure this out on a national level. rich people have to pay their fair share period. brown has appointed himself fiscal watch dog for the state. thanks to the tax measure and improving economy we have a surplus as i was mentioning. in the may revision of his budget brown low balled revenue estimates claiming a modest $1.2 billion surplus. the legislative analyst office which is nonpartisan says it is $4.4 billion. so it looks like he deliberately misstated the money -- how much money the state has to keep the message -- fiscal austerity. on track. anyway, my point is i wish we could follow this model nationwide because it just is -- anyway. just saying.

blue, blue blue. big, blue! >> blue works. red doesn't. >> stephanie: not to be partisan in any way. >> not at all. >> stephanie: we're just saying. >> i'm look at print ads from the 1950s. some of them are disturbing. is it always illegal to kill a woman? uh yeah, pretty much. >> stephanie: is that an ad? >> an ad for what? >> supposed to be a joke. >> stephanie: i'm guessing marsha blackburn would be okay with that. >> is it an ad for parkay? >> stephanie: sometimes she has a comment yeah. women don't want laws against murder. >> so the harder a wife works the cuter she looks. >> stephanie: rick in arizona you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi rick. >> caller: hi, steph. i think we're walking a real dangerous line to give more power to reporters when you look at who owns the news. you talk about the midwest. most of those people get local

news and local news only. it is owned by rupert murdoch. by clear channel. all of the right wing channels. fox. you're never going to get the truth out of them. you're going to get whatever the republican party -- they've got their hands so far up their you know what, you're never going to get the truth from them. >> stephanie: rick, i have to say, you know, certainly, there are troubling aspects to what happened. but i have to admit to my own bias, when i heard it was a fox reporter, i was like eh. in that particular case, seems a pretty serious security breach. don't you think? that really did seem like why would you want to report something like that? that is real national security, the particular story about north korea, don't you think? >> caller: there are a ton of things that they can't say why they can't bring it up. you don't know how many people's lives are endangered by it. they can't come out and say because you can't trust the press. you know. it used to be in the 60s they never talked about anything.

they were americans. >> stephanie: i do agree in general, it is a problem talking about criminalizing reporting but you know, that particular case, it seemed very, very sears and at least the guy leak should be prosecuted. i think that seemed like a very fine line to me, the degree to which this guy was soliciting this information and trying to get it out there that it is national security. >> the people we're at war against do with things against americans, anything at all. >> stephanie: right. right. yeah. >> but having said that, we do need whistle-blowers. >> do you feel the same about bradley manning who leaked a whole lot of stuff? >> stephanie: yeah. >> that he should be prosecuted? >> i don't think so. because i think what he talked about is things that we should know about. you know what we should talk about next is this guy that recorded mitch mcconnell. right back on "the stephanie miller show."

to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

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>> it's's little childish and stupid but then again so is -- >> stephanie miller. [farting sounds] >> stephanie: 1-800-steph-12 the phone number. let's go back to 1953 with marsha blackburn. marsha said yesterday on "meet the press" that women don't want equal pay. jim is reading some ads from the -- >> benson and hedges. a woman is only a woman but a good cigar is a smoke. >> really?

>> it is a man's world. the ideal gift for all occasions. oh darling how lovely. i've longed for bottling outfit for years. >> what? >> and various car ads. women can't drive you see. in stephanie's case, that's true. >> stephanie: i hit the stereotype. >> here's a fun one. do you still beat your wife? maybe you never should have stopped. read why in the educational booklet entitled why you should beat your wife written by an emmanent practitioner. send a self-addressed envelope. >> green stamps there? >> probably. >> stephanie: picture of a man spanking his wife because -- >> if your husband ever finds out you're not testing for fresher coffee --

>> what's store testing? >> stephanie: you pointed out i kind of like it. >> if he discovers you're still taking chances and -- >> stephanie: i forgot to store test again. bad girl. okay. >> you need to be spanked. >> stephanie: punch me in the ass. see, now you've gone over the line. now it is not fun anymore. >> that's not sexy. >> stephanie: sue in rockville, you're on the "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: good morning. first of all a shout out to bar baby. she's 6 today. if you ever try to spank her she would punch you right in the face. small and wiry like you steph. everyone should call marsha blackburn's office and find out for sure she gets paid 3/4 of what all of the male congressional congressmen get paid. then the other point i want to make is that see i own an

online bookstore -- >> stephanie: by -- by the way, she shouldn't get paid as much. >> i own an online bookstore. as soon as people realize it is a chick who owns the bookstore they ask for a 25% discount because the books obviously are there for cheaper. i mean for pete's sakes. that's why it is the most absurd thing. >> stephanie: absolutely. thank you honey. all right. love to the bar baby. a caller brought up the a.p. thing. not to say -- the james rosen the fox reporter and we were saying some of this is a tough -- you know, they're difficult issues because that seemed like a really serious case in terms of leaking secrets about north korea et cetera that really would endanger national security. like you were saying, do i think bradley manning should be -- prosecuted? yes. >> the things i've seen that he

released are things that we should know about. if we were striving civilians. >> that's the problem. where do you draw that line? how do you -- >> would you have put -- hirsch in prison for reporting? >> stephanie: i take your point. we were talking about this, mitch mcconnell, he was recorded in his campaign office. >> for the pentagon papers. >> stephanie: i got it. he was recorded in his office with a guy with a flip phone. it was like the 47% comments. this guy may be prosecuted. he wrote a whole piece about salon about why i secretly recorded mitch mcconnell. then is someone we don't like, you go good for him. but it is interesting. our friend, john yarmuth was on tv and said that -- threw this guy under the bus. john yarmuth is one of his

favorite congresspeople. there is a line. first of all the rush to nixon -- this was not liberals. >> that's a bit much. >> stephanie: that wiretapped this is of his office. it was an activist with a flip phone. you know. and this is -- this is where what's his name, what's the guy on the right? that does all of the stuff? james o'keefe. >> pimp daddy. >> stephanie: right. he obviously broke the law in certain cases. again, you know, it is easier to go -- because we don't like him politically. but a lot of the stuff he did was completely dishonest and that -- i also think that's different. >> editing someone. >> yeah. >> stephanie: the famous thing and people don't remember this, that everybody thinks is he dressed as this outrageous pimp and walked into an acorn office. >> he did not. >> that was separately edited in. >> stephanie: that's what made it tv friendly for fox. look at the dorks at acorn.

>> if you're out in the public now, you can pretty well assume someone is recording something. because everyone has got some kind of mobile device. >> stephanie: the point -- and that is -- the point is that mcconnell was saying he wasn't out in public. he wasn't out in office. curtis morrison, earlier this year, i made an audio recording of senator mitch mcconnell. once again the point -- his point is well taken. they've made the story about that rather than the horrendous things they were saying about ashley judd and what their game plan was against her. anyways, he said i leaked the recording to mother jones which published it. at the time mcconnell was prepping for a race against actress ashley judd. it included plans to use judd's history of depression against her. their charge of being prepared that may be presented to a grand

jury. mcconnell was quick to frame himself as the victim of the crime. it was guilty repositioning of a crime. he said i don't personally dislike mcconnell. i believe he's failed kentucky. prioritized personal agenda de jure for more than three decades of his so-called public service. this was -- he points out this is at a time when the ppp poll showed he was the most unpopular senator in the country and obviously this ashley judd was clearly viewed as a huge threat. his numbers show him very vulnerable. hollywood star and yada, yada. they were vicious in the stuff he caught on tape. mcconnell refused to answer reporter's questions about the recording deflecting repeated inquiries as the target of nixonian tactics. can you stop comparing everything to nixon? to watergate? some guy with a flip phone that caught you saying crappy things about your -- >> about warranty gate. -- about watergate. >> stephanie: this is the gestapo scare tactics.

he goes it's amazing how quick they get to hitler. >> gestapo. >> stephanie: some guy with a flip phone. exactly like hitler. >> stephanie: right. >> guy with a flip phone. guy murdered millions of people. >> hmm. >> stephanie: he writes i'm in california now. plan to attend law school here in the fall. i'm 44 years old. my life path has shifted. he lost his job and his house. mitch mcconnell ironically has destroyed him to the same degree he was planning to try to destroy ashley judd because he had a flip phone and recorded mcconnell. as for whether my actions were illegal, i don't think so. that has been supported by high profile attorneys including john dean speak of watergate. >> but you know, his office is public -- is a public facility. >> stephanie: flip phone through the window is what it sounds like to me. he said mcconnell's numbers continue to slide.

which is also ironic. the latest poll shows the woman that may run in place of ashley judd beating him already. >> if you're talking about something you don't want to get out, maybe close the window. i'm just saying. i'm a helper. >> or make sure you know everyone who's in the room. >> right. >> stephanie: exactly. >> close the window. that's all you gotta do. >> stephanie: are you a helper. >> open the door. >> stephanie: by the way so the latest scandal palooza is the i.r.s. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ♪ ] >> scandal scandal. >> stephanie: already underfire. blah, blah blah. inspector general's report says about $50 million to hold about 220 conferences for employees between 2010 and 2012. if you saw the video of them line dancing the main thing i said is clearly not a lot of salad bars at the i.r.s. they're not spending money on salad bars. >> they probably shouldn't be spending money on these kinds of

things. >> stephanie: in my opinion line dancing is just dumb. >> unless it is the electric slide because everybody can do the electric slide. that's what the i.r.s. people need on i.r.s. time. >> stephanie: josh ernest. >> we're confident that review -- we'll take a look at a wide range of things making sure we hold accountable those responsible for this. >> stephanie: david axelrod. >> if this was somebody political involved in this, it never would have happened. it was the stupidest thing you could ever imagine. >> stephanie: he made a good point. that's the whole point. this obviously was not directed by the white house or somebody political because you know, that dosh that crystallizes the whole thing. like we've said over and over again. this clearly was -- in the wake of citizens united. the explosions of these groups. >> they were trying to get a handle on how to deal with the extreme onslaught of new people

applying for tax-exempt status. >> stephanie: why isn't it more the story that a lot of them lied? isn't that the scandal? they checked the box as saying no, we're not involved in any. >> nothing political. that's crazy. >> they cheated at battleship. basically. >> g4. >> miss! >> as you slightly move -- move your boat. >> you missed my battleship! [ laughter ] >> stephanie: senator orrin hatch, republican of utah yesterday. >> people are scared to death of the i.r.s. and most people hate the i.r.s. they have politics going on in an agency that should be above politics, is really difficult to put up with. that's why we were asked for this information and we intend to get it. >> it is because they're conducting politics while pretending to be -- whatever. >> stephanie: social welfare groups again. no one has answered my question on that either. what exactly what exact form of

social welfare are you doing? >> we're helping the tricorner hat industry. >> thanks. that helps. >> stephanie: representative darrell issa, republican of california. >> this is a problem that was coordinated in all likelihood right out of washington headquarters and proving it -- >> we're getting around to creating some phony evidence. >> that's what they said for two years during whitewater. we're getting around to proving there was a land deal. >> vince foster was killed by space aliens. >> stephanie: i hope maybe they'll get to the bottom of the christmas card thing in the white house. there has to be some connection. okay. mark everson former i.r.s. commissioner yesterday. >> there is a lot we don't know and that will come out obviously over times of the hearings and the adjustments of our investigation. what we do know is quite disturbing. >> stephanie: you know, this all like -- this whole like oh,

there must be smoke there must be fire. the smoke is coming out of darrell issa's ass is where the smoke is coming from. smoke is blowing out of hit ass. >> actually he's blowing it up other people's -- >> stephanie: like the dry ice explosions. whatever. once again no there. i'm so upset. i don't know what time it is. call randi rhodes and ask her what time it is. 47 after now. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> it was so funny in my head when i planned it. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show."

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doug in st. charles you're on "the stephanie miller show" on eric holder. >> caller: good morning, steph once again and mooks i enjoy your show every single day. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: i think eric holder should be removed and not because of the -- of stuff that they're going on about now but because of his lack of prosecution in the financial industry. especially prosecution of people who have been fraudulently -- foreclosing on people or doing document -- changing the documents on it. i cannot understand how he got on -- it is all on youtube. he says we're not going to go after them because it could cause some kind of problem down the stream on the institutions. the problem is the people in charge of these institutions. when you takes away the public's faith in the institutions as far as in government and private industry, you're doing more

damage to those -- >> stephanie: i hear you. jim. >> about 8,000 people have been arrested for protesting the banksters. none of the actual banksters have been prosecuted as far as i know. very few of them. >> stephanie: doug, i would be with you if there was a chance elizabeth warren could then be appointed. whenever i hear -- >> caller: i love elizabeth warren. i think that she would -- her and sherrod brown, people like this and bernie sanders would go a long way to cleaning this mess up if they could get by the fact that the political system has been completely corrupted by the cash inflows from the lobbyists and the business interests of this country. >> stephanie: yep, i hear ya. representative marsha blackburn noted feminist. on taking a break -- joke all morning about her. jim, you need to read more '50s ads. women don't want equal pay. no equal pay laws.

that's ridiculous. >> they want to submit to their husbands. >> stephanie: like michele bachmann does. okay. representative blackburn on eric holder. >> i think that the attorney general has definitely lost the trust of the american people. when you are out in my district, people feel betrayed by the conduct of this administration and this attorney general. >> stephanie: i'm not certain that's true. that's what michele bachmann said. when i'm in my district, all anyone wants to talk about is why haven't we already impeached him. >> that's not true. >> stephanie: right. chuck schumer yesterday was one of the headlines supporting eric holder. >> there have been all kinds of accusation but i haven't seen anything that would prevent him from continuing to do his job. >> stephanie: i was saying, i think that's the problem with issa and this boy who cried wolf kind of thing. they've been screaming about everything that eric holder has done. >> fast and furious fast and furious. >> stephanie: right. josh ernest once again.

>> criminal investigations are initiated by the department of justice and are not subject to any sort of political or white house influence. >> that's true. >> stephanie: troy in buffalo on darrell issa. >> caller: hi, stephanie. thank you for taking my call. >> caller: i watch you every day. i just wanted to get your opinion, i don't know if you're aware but the episode of america's book of secrets that's on the history 2 channel had a story, presidential cover-ups was the title of the episode. in the description, it said uncover the stories behind the greatest white house scandals from iran-contra to benghazi. i watched this. darrell issa is on the screen talking about how much of a scandal it is. at the same time they're still doing the hearings. >> it is a joke now because they

do very little history. >> stephanie: would you like to do the honors for the kids listening about what iran-contra was? >> caller: they killed preme sold guns, reagan knew about it. they gave norris the boot and blamed him for it all and they basically sold guns so they could get the money to fund some other war. government wouldn't pay to topple some dictator. >> stephanie: meanwhile as we've said while tragic, benghazi is one incident. there were 60 people killed at embassies while bush was in office. there is no scandal about benghazi. i'm starting to -- just the name is starting to -- ptsd. >> sure. >> stephanie: 58 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show."

[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: hello current tv land. hour number two. jacki schechner, we may have to do an emergency healthcare corner this morning. >> okay. >> stephanie: because i don't know if you read "the new york times" piece. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ♪ ] colonoscopies explain why u.s. leads the world in health expenditures. i assumed it would be because republicans have their heads up their ass but it is not. [ ♪ circus ♪ ] >> that's quite a procedure. >> stephanie: for some reason, people seem to think yeah, america, [ bleep ] look how

expensive it is. >> we're nom one. >> we spend a lot of money on the latest and greatest procedure without doing a lot of research on whether or not that procedure is actually better than what we've been doing. it is the need to take a look at comparative effectiveness research part of healthcare reform. it may be bright and shiny but is it actually better? >> stephanie: dust off your nurse jacki cap. we'll do a corner on all of this as we continue. here she is in her jaunty news cap, jacki schechner. >> good morning, everybody. we have sad news to report this morning as chris mentioned a few moments ago. senator frank lautenberg has passed away. the new jersey democrat is the oldest serving member of the senate -- excuse me, the oldest member of the senate and the longest serving. he announced he would not be seeking re-election in 2014 but he had a long list of what he planned to accomplish before he retired. one included a list of the overhaul that regulates chemicals in household products.

last month he saw the senate unveil a bipartisan compromise bill. he has been sick for the past few weeks and he died this morning of viral pneumonia. he was 89 years old. when the time is appropriate, it will be up to republican governor chris christie to select his replacement. the white house meanwhile calling on security forces in turkey to exercise restraint as the anti-government protest continues for the fourth day now. turkish prime minister continues to insist protestors are just an extremist fringe and rejects comparisons to previous arab spring uprisings. they're clashing with uprisers. the protests started. it is a sit sit-in to stop the redevelopment of the square and escalated into a full-out movement against the ruling justice and development party. we're waiting for president obama to give the opening remarks on today's mental health conference at the white house. it is going to be a series of events today. he is scheduled to speak really

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♪ so happy with schechner ♪ >> stephanie: we're always so happy it's schechner. ♪ ba, ba, ba, ba ♪ >> it was one of those nights when i was wide awake at quarter to 12:00 putting together my news for the morning. >> stephanie: bitch bitch bitch. >> you're usually the one up at that hour. >> stephanie: i get the what were you doing up? i'm like well, you know, cursing my life. so, we were just mentioning to you at the top of the hour because obviously we talk about this all the time. i don't know if you read this piece in the "new york times" but i mean they specifically highlighted colonoscopies. jim was talking earlier about how -- you say this is always the problem is the cost of healthcare. but colonoscopies explain why the u.s. leads the world in

health expenditures. as we keep saying, not for better results right? >> it is a good example of how because we have such a for-profit medical industrial complex that a lot of times we end up spending more money than necessary on tests that don't necessarily prove to be anymore effective. and because everybody's haggling over ways to make money off of this process. we're not voluntary consumers of the healthcare market. that's something we have to always keep in mind. people aren't like hey, i have nothing to do. let's go for a colonoscopy. >> stephanie: we've talked about how there's no uniformity just in this "new york times" piece, one person's colonoscopy in long island was $6,000. somebody else in new hampshire was $7,000 something. $9,000 in chappaqua new york. >> completely arbitrary. >> stephanie: this one in durham, north carolina is almost $20,000. you know, they're saying while

their insurers negotiated down the price, it was still $13,000. you always think it is free because i have insurance. it is obviously not free. >> of course not no. the prices are totally vary depending on who the payer is. whether you're paying out of pocket. whether it is medicare paying or medicaid. it is all -- it all depends on who is shelling out the money because these prices have all been negotiated. but everybody's making money right? the doctor is making money. the facility is making money. the medical device manufacturers are making money. every step along the way, somebody is profiting off of this. so they're going to always try to maximize their profit. >> that's the american way. >> stephanie: honestly, it is infuriating when you read the details of this in "the new york times" piece. basic colonoscopy costs a few hundred dollars. >> the entire healthcare system is infuriated. that's one of the reasons after i fought for reform, i left the

country for awhile. it is infuriating. every step along the way because we not only subsidize drug prices for other countries where their governments are allowed to negotiate drug prices why we pay so much more for drugs but also with all of these resources and facilities and medical devices and procedures that aren't necessarily more effective. they're just newer and shinier and more expensive. >> stephanie: that's exactly it. as you recall, that's what's infuriating. the right wing -- we have the best healthcare in the world. people come here. we have the most expensive healthcare in the world. >> when you talk about comparative effectiveness research, one of the things they want to do within the confines of healthcare reform is to be able to do testing. to figure out whether or not these new devices and procedures are actually more effective. it is called comparative effectiveness research. you no he what that turned into? death panels and -- it is all

twisted. it is a practical solution to some of our financial problems within the system. >> stephanie: saying that catch price explains why the u.s. is the world leader in medical spending even though numerous studies have concluded americans don't get better healthcare. they pay more for every action. they're typically prescribed more expensive procedures and tests no matter if those nations operate a private or national healthcare system. just that sentence is stunning, right? >> yeah. we spend 20% of our gross domestic product i think "the new york times" article said 18. it is up to 20% on healthcare. it is absurd the amount of money we waste. i want to mention we're talking about this. i don't know if you saw the es ra klein -- the ezra klein post. we talked about rate shock last week and how prices are turning out to be lower within the new state exchanges. proposed rates will be lower than people expected. ezra does a great piece.

i'll cc you and chris on it so we can help pass it around but it explains why if you try to navigate the private health insurance system why it is so treacherous. why they're not serving more than 10% of the population. they'll be so essential to help people who don't otherwise have access to health insurance. it breaks it down in an easy way to understand and it is something that we need to pass around, i think to help combat some of the misinformation on the right. because they're very, very good at the viral e-mail misinformation. and so, ezra's piece is a good way for us to help other people understand how these exchanges are helpful especially for people trying to navigate their system on their own oz opposed -- as opposed to getting health insurance through work. >> stephanie: more fun facts for the [ bleep ] crowd. u.s. came out with the most costly in all 21 categories in health. americans pay four times as much as hip replacement as patients

in switzerland or france and three times as much for a c-section as new zealand or britain. jim had one yesterday. >> i had two actually. there was a sale. it was a two-fer. >> two cesareans. >> stephanie: the average price, a common nasal spray for allergies is $108. i just got allergy spray compared with $21 in spain. the cost of hospital stays here are triple of that of other countries. the u.s. pays providers of healthcare much more for everything. >> why am i paying $1,000 for an aspirin? >> you know why? because it is subsidized in -- because we're subsidizing other countries. because other countries can negotiate drug prices with drug companies and we actually have passed laws against it. so are we -- we've cut deals. against it. >> stephanie: if only we could sell to the right wing, they

might be on our side with this. >> i heard a great story about the king of spain had an operation at a public hospital and reimbursed the hospital and the people for the amount of security and rooms that were taken up by his stay in the public hospital. not only was the king using the same facilities as everybody else but reimbursing the public for the expenditures of that stay. because it was public money and it needed to be reimbursed. >> now we definitely know the king of spain isn't a republican. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: it is not like our leaders here aren't consistent. i know all of the republicans have refused their public healthcare. >> oh, sure. >> federal employees health benefits program. >> stephanie: they seem okay with that. you know, jim, i know you've had colonoscopies, i have not. the other thing that's troubling in this in "the new york times" piece says the high price for

colonoscopies is from business plans seeking to maximize revenue haggling between hospitals and insures that have no relation to the cost of performing the procedure marketing, lobbying, turf battles as they increase patient fees. the point they're saying is while several cheaper and less invasive tests are recommended as equally effective by the expert panel on preventive care and are used in other countries colonoscopy became the go-to procedure. we've defaulted by far the most expensive option without much of any debt according to doctor commenting on the study. that's kind of troubling right? >> you know what else is troubling? it is not pleasant to prepare for a colonoscopy. if there is a better option, let's could that, first. >> stephanie: it is invasive and things can go wrong. >> you can puncture your colon then you've got real problems. it is not all that safe.

>> there seems -- if there are other options, we should be exploring those as well. pun intended. >> stephanie: exactly. you start to think -- >> i mean look, we talk about the insurance companies and the medical loss ratio and they have to spend 80% of your premiums on medical care but it is not -- as much as i despise the insurance companies, it is not just their fault. people are making so much money off of our healthcare system. it is the hospitals and it is the device manufacturers and it is the drug companies. and everybody's getting a piece of the pie. and i think what's so frustrating is that, again i'll just sum this up. is that we don't choose to participate in the healthcare system voluntarily. like you go -- >> stephanie: that part is infuriating, too. you feel like it is a cruel joke in a way. dorothy at the end of the wizard of oz, i could have gone home

any time i wanted to? you didn't have to shove something up my ass? that's what i'm saying. i don't know what the latest are or ma'am am gras. -- mammograms? you didn't have to put my [ bleep ] in a wringer. >> larger problem with mammograms are the insurance companies are -- insurance companies aren't willing to cover them for women under 40 and there were a lot of women who have family histories who should be having these sorts of tests earlier. and they can't get coverage for them. because the insurance companies say statistically, they shouldn't have to cover them before that age. >> stephanie: angelina jolie made her first appearance this weekend publicly. people still talking about that and her aunt just died. the aunt's family said we wish we had known about this or we didn't -- they might have done the same thing. i think you're right. it is information but it is all of those things, like you say have nothing to do with healthcare.

>> we have to do a lot better when it comes to figuring out what's necessary and what's not necessary. a lot of times you say is it cheaper for the insurance company to allow for the testing for this gene that would just determine whether or not somebody is susceptible to breast cancer or to treat them for breast cancer? >> stephanie: exactly. do you want to talk about money it is actually cost saving to test somebody and go forward that way. not to mention, of course, the physical and emotional toll. but if you want to go from a financial perspective, it makes a lot more sense to have preventive birth control available than to have to support somebody having a baby. that doesn't actually want to have a baby. >> stephanie: look at you. you got in a little pro-choice there at the end. jacki schechner, another fabulous corner. thank you honey. >> my pleasure. >> stephanie: there you go. see you at the top of the hour. 20 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> i'm kind of known for having a twisted sense of humor. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show."

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is very invasive as jim has been talking about. colon could be punctured. all sorts of stuff. it is infuriating it is because we've defaulted to the most expensive option because people are making money off of it. it led to a whole discussion about cancer. i had not heard that breaking news. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ♪ ] because i am currently obsessed with behind the canada -- candelabra so i can only picture michael douglas having sex with matt damon. >> for the last two years of his life, he's been fighting throat cancer. he said he contracted it not through drinking or smoking like most people thought but through oral sex. >> with women. yes. he's straight. he got the hpv virus through oral sex. >> cause of cervical cancer.

>> stephanie: right. okay. be interested if the doctor is listening. okay. that's a gpk. we were talking to jacki about "the new york times" piece. "new york times" saying the u.s. spends about 18% of its gdp on healthcare. jacki says she thinks is closer to 20. either one is astounding. you have to take a second to digest that. nearly twice as much as most other developed countries and again, we're not getting better care. the cbo has said if medical costs continue to grow unabated total spending on healthcare would eventually account for all of the country's economic output. honest will i? not just the political dream but this is not sustainable. they're quoting person after person with health insurance premiums eating up more of her paycheck one woman decided to forgo a visit because of an

injury sustained during sandy. we shouldn't have to make those decisions in america. we're also -- we were mentioning angelina jolie returned to the red carpet for the first time yesterday weeks after announcing she had undergone a double mast ect -- mastectomy. >> i'm happy to see the discussion expanded. after losing my mom to these issues, i'm grateful for it and i'm i've been very moved by the support. very grateful for it. >> stephanie: yeah. jim, i know you were saying that you and your wife were talking about it when it first happened because i know it seemed extreme to a lot of people. but did you -- change your mind upon learning about -- >> her aunt had died from that. >> stephanie: we were talking jacki was saying that's another one of the problems with the system is women under 40 should even get mammograms because -- and there are other tests. her aunt's family said if they had this information, they may

have made the same choice to do a preventive mastectomy. but they didn't know in time. >> a lot of medical procedures involve radiation which can actually trigger cancers too. so that is kind of a double-edged sword. you don't want to have too many procedures that involve radiation. >> stephanie: or expensive ones that are maybe unnecessary and invasive. the biggest thing to me in the "new york times" piece is colonoscopies may not be the most effective but because they're the most expensive that's what's recommended here. marla in missouri. you're on "the stephanie miller show." welcome. >> caller: hi. i listen to you all the time and i love you. you're great. l of you. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: i have a question. when is san diego going to get start and vote issa out? >> it is up to the people of his district. >> caller: i know. >> all of the people of san diego. >> stephanie: i'm going down to san diego to give a speech.

i'll give a few people a talking to. >> he's trying to bring everybody down from the post office to everybody. >> stephanie: you know, marla what irritates me the most is it doesn't matter what issue you take every day, for instance, yesterday, the president talking about student loan rates are set to double in a month. that affects a lot of real people's real future and issa is business i -- is busy having his how many benghazi hearing? >> caller: my husband doesn't even listen to politics and he hears benghazi and he's going crazy. i do have to say one thing. he talked to an older lady. and he was telling her what the republicans are doing and she was agreeing and she said she was going to -- because we vote tomorrow for jo ann emerson's seat. and she said she was going to vote democrat. >> stephanie: all right. one at a time. here we go. 29 minutes after the hour.

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pick me. okay. endless hearings on the quasi-scandal. >> obama: it face to lock in low rates for students next year. that's not smasht. it eliminates safeguards for lower income families. it could cost a freshman starting school this fall more over the next four years than if we did nothing at all. >> stephanie: i just went to ply friend's daughters high school graduation. she's going to nyu in the fall. >> that's not cheap. >> stephanie: exactly. that's what i'm saying. you know what the republicans call that? that's needlessly partisan. really? helping all kids go to college? >> having kids be educated is partisan because they want dumb people to vote for them. to vote for the gohmerts of the world. how dumb could you have to be to

vote for a gohmert? and a marsha blackburn. >> stephanie: hello david in florida. you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: how are you? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: i did my doctoral dissertation on the concepts of ideology and i just wanted to point out that the republicans are no longer conservative by any measure. they have become reactionary. they want to go backwards especially when you consider the comments of somebody like marsha back -- blackburn their hostility to science all kinds of other stands that they take. people now want to go backwards to the way things were in another era. and if they get any further to the right my contention is they may as well down jack booze and swastikas because there's no

place to go other than to a fascist orientation -- >> stephanie: let's leave that for them the hitler analogies. >> fascism, more precisely correlates with mussolini who invented it. >> stephanie: we apologize for calling you hitler worshippers. we meant mussolini. >> stephanie: g.o.p. survey of young people reveals they support progressive policies. oh dear. oh, dear. another democrat. >> republicans threw good money at that. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: to find out what we already knew. the more and more i read in the "new york times" piece the madder i get. the whole healthcare. because you know, we keep talking about why. why does healthcare cost so much when we get so little for our money. these are all of the reasons. i mean -- obviously they're talking about us as compared to other countries. jim, i was saying again, it is different everywhere. you can pay up to $20,000 for a

colonoscopy. it is well under $1,000 in any other country. one of the reasons the u.s. has increased rates of obesity we do not generally regulate or intervene in pricing except for setting medicaid. that's the part that works. medicaid. that's why medicare for all would be the best solution. it works in our country. anyway one doctor said in the u.s., we like to consider healthcare a free market but it is a very weird market riddled with failures. this is not some fine, shining example of the market. how about this. even doctors often do not know the cost of the tests and procedures they prescribe. in what world does that make sense? when dr. michael collins an internist called the hospital he's affiliated with to price

lab tests and a colonoscopy, he couldn't get an answer. it is impossible for me to think about cost. if you go to the supermarket and there's no prices, how can you make intelligent decisions? how are the rest of us supposed to navigate this when doctors can't navigate? payments are determined in countless negotiations between a doctor hospital, pharmacy and an insurer with the result often depending on the relative negotiating power. insures have limited incentive to bargain since they can raise premiums to cover costs. it all comes down to market share and very rarely is anyone look out for the patient. which people think it is like other purchases that if you pay more to get -- you get a better car but in medicine, it is not like that. we'll post the piece from "the new york times" because it will make you mad. >> would you like the kia colonoscopy or the mercedes colon os o copy. do i get satellite radio? >> stephanie: so i can listen to "the stephanie miller show"?

>> caller: you all need to read a bitter pill that -- it was a cover article in "time" magazine if you want to be more infuriated. i'm a healthcare prac fissioner. every healthcare practitioner can make money. it is like a 15% to 20% profit. we can all live on a 15% to 20% profit margin. the rates that hospitals are charging and various medical practices are charging right now and the private insurance companies are paying these rates are just nuts. absolutely nuts. and we can do something about it. we just need to, you know, collectively get together. >> stephanie: robert, as "the new york times" is pointing out i think is the fallacy that we -- we don't sort of have the incentive to try to -- oh, shop for stuff that's cheaper. my insurance covers it. meanwhile, then you know, it always comes back to bite us in the ass because our insurance premiums go up and up and as i

was talking about. we were talking about because we don't cover everybody we're all paying for people that have no insurance. that's exactly why we needed the affordable care act. right? >> caller: and the irony is that texas has turned down the expanding their medicaid and what's going to happen is the state's going to end up having to pay for the indigent patients going through the emergency rooms and it is -- you know, rick perry is screwing himself. >> stephanie: wouldn't be the first time. all right. let's go to elizabeth in chicago. elizabeth is a doctor. >> caller: hi, stephanie. hi mooks. >> stephanie: hey doc. >> caller: yes, i'm a doctor. i tule was in a conference about -- for managed care hmo kind of program and there was a senator speaking about why insurance is -- or why medical care in this country is so high. he said it is due to a lawsuit

in the 1940s from blue cross to the state of florida and blue cross won. and it was regarding healthcare premiums and they said because of that case, all healthcare premiums would be paid pretax dollars. so companies had to pay that money. and his talk was actually about car manufacturing. he said the price of healthcare brings our manufacturing of cars up so high because it has to be done that way. and actually we make cars in this country cheaper than anywhere besides that. but all of the other countries first world countries looked at that and said that's an unsustainable system so they all created universal healthcare in the '40s and '50s and they are, of course, doing much better on their medical care. i want to make one more point about that -- i read that

article in "the new york times." and i want to make the point that that is because universal healthcare. we're able to get that data about those colonoscopies because it exists. because someone is starting to look at oh, let's look at all of the people in medicare getting colonoscopies. what is the difference? what is happening? so that's all new stuff. so even though everyone is furious about it. we need to know that that is -- things that are going to be able to be made changes. going forward. >> stephanie: it is so businesses an teen doc in the sense that -- what do you say to the patient in durham, north carolina, why is my colonoscopy $19,000? it is also outrageous it is $7,000 in new hampshire or whatever that story was right? >> caller: absolutely. it is madness. and another point is that i've unfortunately been in the position from having healthcare to not having healthcare and you know, people really do need to

negotiate right now with systems because they will still charge an individual the cost that insurance company would have negotiated down so actually as jacki schechner was saying, you still have to pay even though the insurance is covering something. you have to pay, you know, let's say you pay $200 for that $19,000 colonoscopy but the other guy who went in without insurance was charged $19,000. so it is really creepy. >> stephanie: what kind of doctor are you? >> caller: internal medicine. that means pediatric for an adult for people who don't know. >> stephanie: understood. no lollipops. i understand. doc, thanks so much. >> although sometimes we would appreciate a lollipop. >> to sum up, a colonoscopy will bite you in the ass. >> stephanie: thanks, elizabeth.

>> caller: thanks so much. >> stephanie: appreciate it. >> especially if we've had a -- >> stephanie: 45 minutes after the hour. >> the least you can do. >> preferably a bourbon lolly. >> stephanie: 45 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show". >> announcer: for a good time call now, 1-800-steph-12.

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stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 50 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. things that are as fishy as the healthcare industry. that would be the tire industry. >> another ad from the 1950s. they show a guy cleaning the white wall tires with an sos steel wool pad. darn it, it blew up again. >> stephanie: now i need new tires. >> this is brought to you by michelin. >> stephanie: like the study from kentucky fried chicken saying guess what is the healthiest -- >> yes right. >> extra oil. mmm, mmm mmm it is the lardiest. >> stephanie: carol in iowa, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi carol. >> caller: hey, stephanie, how are you? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: i was listening to your program which i love. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: i decided that the healthcare system has become more of a business than

anything. i went through a revolving door of mammograms because they thought they saw something and then they came back and said well, it is probably our new digital read out thing or whatever. so come back in six months and i went through this for a couple of years. >> oh, god. >> caller: i'm like i'm done. i'm fine. you saw i'm fine after every test you've put me through. and i'm not doing it anymore. and my doctor -- i pretty much don't go to the doctor unless you know, i feel like it. it has been probably a year and a half. i'm stopping going through the revolving doors. nope, ain't going to do it. i've gone through colonoscopy. oh, you gotta come back in so many -- a couple of years or something. i'm like nope, ain't gonna do it. took me 55 years to get that one. >> they keep prescribing the medications. all of the lawsuits because of the all of the side effects. >> you see them on tv.

if you took this drug or whatever, you know, it is like wow. >> you may have exploding brain syndrome. >> stephanie: i think i'm not sure i want to know about prevacid because i've been taking that for years for acid reflux. >> oh boy. >> gotta be careful. >> how fast was that rushed to the market without enough research. >> stephanie: we'll find out when my uvula explodes. [ explosion ] >> stephanie: pat in pittsburgh you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: i wanted to tell you about my doctor. i was on medicine for panic attacks and had to go in every three months for a refill. as soon as i went on medicare, he had me come every month. i said you're bilking medicare. well the look on that man's face, i said you know what? i will come every three months. >> stephanie: you gave him a panic attack as it turned out. >> caller: exactly. every time i go, he is so cold now. i've been going to him for 20

years. >> stephanie: like our last caller was talking about is what's unfortunate is some people may not go to a doctor and find out stuff because of all -- how broken our system is and that people don't trust it and because of your story. that's what's hard. >> caller: this is one little doctor in one little town. how many doctors are doing this? and they wonder about the medicare costs. >> stephanie: it is hard to -- i think what is so infuriating is it seems so simple to some of us, how much simpler medicare for all would be or single payer that would take care of the problems we're talking about. and how politically impossible that is. couldn't even get a public option. and look at the little -- i was saying medicare is the one little part of our system that's working. the exchanges look like they're going to work. it looks like healthcare premiums out here in california are lower than expected. so you know, those are -- i actually feel bad pat because at the end of the day, i don't think as hume beings, any of us

are that partisan. i feel badly for people who live in red states who will suffer. >> i go back every three months because i guess he thought uh-oh. i threatened to write a letter to the editor. it was like i was so upset with him. i told him i've never been so disappointed in anybody in my life. >> stephanie: when you live in whether it is rick perry's state or whatever, one of the governors that just because they don't like the president they may have political ambitions of their own they're going to block, whether it is medicaid funds or whatever it is or not going to help with their exchanges, it is infuriating. >> exactly. >> stephanie: thank you, pat. >> caller: thank you. >> stephanie: yeah, unfortunately. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ♪ ] ma'am graphically, not good news for the republicans. i thought they were fiscal conservatives. i could have told them young people hate them. g.o.p. survey of young people reveals they support progressive policies. >> uh-oh. >> stephanie: oh, deeper. >> they threw good money at that. >> all right. >> stephanie: the college

republican national committee is there even a reason for that? >> well, yeah, there are college republicans. >> stephanie: they ought to rename it to committee, at least. they released a report monday outlining the major challenges facing the g.o.p. as it seeks to rebrand in the aftermath of the 2012 election. the survey criticizes their singular focus on big government and tax cuts and calls on republicans to become more tolerant on issues like same-sex marriage -- >> how can we be more tolerant? that's crazy. >> stephanie: and women's reproductive health. a close reading of the 900 page report shows they have issues with mitt romney's platform and are more likely to support progressive positions. >> well then, they're democrats. >> stephanie: right. >> pretty much. >> stephanie: right. my friend was having a discussion with her dad who said she's of he's republican. he agreed with her on everything. you know what we call that kind of republican? a democrat.

ask lincoln chaferee. would you like the fun facts from the report? >> sure! let's see. they disagree with -- yes most of them, mitt romney's platform, far more likely to support progressive positions. g.o.p. here is an example. g.o.p. comict policies are to blame for the recession. lower taxes will not create jobs. increase taxes on the wealthy and the attacks on women's reproductive health. i told them all of this for free. expand universal health coverage. that's what we've been talking about all morning. >> wow. >> stephanie: provide comprehensive immigration reform. how about that. >> what do you think of that? >> what do you think of that? >> were these published in a republican study? >> stephanie: yes. >> this is hysterical. >> marco. >> rubio. >> stephanie: i think this is his latest idea is let's take border security away from the department of homeland security and the white house and let

congress do it. because people don't trust the president of the white house blah blah. i'm like what? that's the stupidest thing i ever heard of. let congress decide and -- >> security is part of the executive branch. >> stephanie: really? how about we let the homeland security department secure the homeland. >> executive branch. >> i don't think rubio knows how the government works. >> stephanie: climate change is real. bush's wars blew up the deficit and marriage equality for all. that was the conclusion of the study that they paid for. >> i kind of wish they hadn't done that. and college republicans describe the face of today's g.o.p. close minded racist, rigid old-fashioned. >> yeah. that's what republicans think of the republican party. >> yeah. >> stephanie: all free. all free. 58 minutes -- >> unless you buy the steph cast which i also recommend.

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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: all right. hour number three current tv land rude pundit coming up. jacki schechner little health spot. look at what you've done. you've wound us up about healthcare all morning. >> i opened a can of worms. >> stephanie: you opened a can of single payer whoop ass. >> i love the conversation. let's talk about it. let's get people angry and fired up. i love it. >> stephanie: i love this doctor that just called in. how infuriating was that part that doctors don't know what

stuff costs. >> you know how much time nurses and physicians assistants end up spending on the phone arguing with insurance companies over whether or not procedures can and should be covered? >> stephanie: literally i just had to get nasal allergy spray. you wouldn't believe what i had to go through. he didn't know what it costs. i have to fill this out to get that and send another thing in. it is like really? it is nose spray! >> you just neat a neti pot. >> ooh! >> gotta be careful with those. >> you can get infections, i get it. >> stephanie: enough of my brain is gone to alcohol. in the meantime, here she is, jacki schechner in the current news center. >> i'm not a doctor and i don't play one. good morning everybody. president obama spoke just moments ago to open up today's mental health conference at the white house. he explains that there are plenty of people who spend decades fighting to bring attention to mental illness so it is incorrect to say today's conference is about starting the conversation because it has

begun. >> obama: instead, it is about elevating that conversation to a national level. and bringing mental illness out of the shadows. we want to let people living with mental health challenges know that they are not alone and we've got to be making sure that we're committed to support those fellow americans. >> now because this has come up as part of the gun control debate the president emphasized the overwhelming majority of people with mental illness are not violent and will never pose a threat to themselves or anyone else. and there are plenty of violent people with no diagnoseable mental illness. he says sometimes mental illness left untreated can cause a tremendous amount of pain and we should do what we can to alleviate that. the supreme court has ruled today to uphold a maryland law that allows law enforcement to collect dna without a warrant from people who have been arrested. it is a 5-4 opinion. kennedy writes a dna swab like fingerprinting and photography is a legitimate police booking

procedure for someone under arrest supported by probable cause for a serious offense. we're back after the break. this show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for

the middle class. but we do care about them right?

cenk off air alright in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks! i think the number 1 thing than viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. they know that i'm not bsing them for some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know i'm going to be the first one to call them out. cenk on air>> what's unacceptable is how washington continues to screw the middle class over. cenk off air i don't want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. cenk on air you got to go to the local level, the state level and we have to fight hard to make sure they can't buy our politics anymore. cenk off air and they can question if i'm right about that. but i think the audience gets that, i actually mean it. cenk on air 3 trillion dollars in spending cuts! narrator uniquely progressive and always topical the worlds largest online news show is on current tv. cenk off air

and i think the audience gets, "this guys to best of his abilities is trying to look out for us." only on current tv! >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. six minutes after the hour. rude pundit coming up at the bottom of the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number. toll free from anywhere. we're in a nostalgic mood this morning. marsha blackburn saying on "meet the press" yesterday that women don't want equal pay. >> of course not. >> their place is the kitchen. [ cuckoo clock chimes ] >> stephanie: jim has been reading ads from the 1950s. >> some from the '40s. a woman who has obviously burned the dinner. she's crying. her husband says don't worry darling.

you didn't burn the beer. >> nice. >> from the 1940s, during the war. women, you know, going to work and soldiers need our help. turns out you gals are useful after all. yeah stephanie turns out you're useful after all. >> stephanie: careful. it ain't 1953 up in here, my friend. >> screw top and a woman is saying with her eyes popping out of her head, you mean a woman can open it? and then there is a footwear ad from the '70s. keep her where she belongs and she's lying on the floor naked looking at a shoe. >> stephanie: as most of us do that's what i do all day when i'm not here. >> christmastime is great for women from the '50s. show her happier with a hoover. >> first thing you do. on christmas morning. is vacuum. >> something for

benson & hedges. guy smoking -- it looks like right out of mad men. tumbler with booze in it and a cigar. a woman is only a woman but a good cigar is a smoke. >> stephanie: right. see, that's why i don't finish my prep because i'm too busy lying on my kitchen floor naked with my hoover looking at a shoe. >> show her it is a man's world. brand new man talking power packed patterns that tell her it is a man's world and make her happy it is. the woman is kneeling on the floor serving him breakfast in bed. >> wow! >> oh, my god! >> stephanie: thank you. >> this is from hardee's from the '50s. carl's jr. out here. in the '40s, a picture of a woman in the kitchen. women don't believe the kitchen. we all know a woman's place is in the home cooking a man a delicious meal. but if you're still enjoying the bachelor's life and don't have a little miss waiting on you, then come down to hardee's for

something sloppy and hastily prepared. >> stephanie: all right. my personal favorite is the picture of the husband spanking the wife because she forgot to freshness test his coffee. [ applause ] >> something from the '40s. >> stephanie: oh no, i forgot again. >> the coffee is stale. >> stephanie: that's a light spank. >> wow. >> breaking a boulder. >> here's something from the 1940s for a pitney bowes postage meter and he complains. is it always illegal to kill a woman? yes, last time i checked. >> stephanie: women don't want to live in a world where it is illegal to kill them. if it they have it coming. >> if they burn the dinner.

>> okay. >> that winded me a little bit. >> so in a related story, i have to say and i never thought i would give a -- >> you go, girl -- >> stephanie: to a woman on fox and want to gay marry her but now i do. megan kelly come on down. >> she's kind of hot and smart. >> stephanie: but this was awesome because this was a big study last week. they did a new study -- all of the men in the ads would explode. four out of ten households, women are the main breadwinner which caused the men of fox to lose their collective [ bleep ] okay. and so anyway, megan kelly had two of her fox colleagues on. she took them to the woodshed. to talk about their comments in response to erick erickson and lou dobbs making controversial comments about a pew study finding 40% of american households have a mother as a breadwinner. kelly brought the two of them on her show and proceeded to tear into them. during a wednesday evening

segment, lou dobbs erickson lamented the findings. >> it was a panel of all men. >> stephanie: like darrell issa's hearing on female reproductive health. >> right. >> chicks, can't live with them, can't hit them over the head with and an vill. >> stephanie: who wants to live in a world like that. >> you can't hit a woman over the head with and anvil. >> stephanie: they were lamenting the troubling findings. [ ♪ hypnotic ♪ ] troubling findings. erickson went the farthest in his analysis claiming it is anti-science to not believe men are supposed to play the dominant role. the group bemoaned the increase of female breadwinners. kelly asked what makes you dominant and you submissive and who died and made you scientist in chief? way to go, girl! >> from the supreme court breaking news, we are now

awaiting a ruling on california same-sex marriage ban. >> huh? >> it appears they have a ruling ready. >> now i'm going to have to start to sweat. i'm going to have that problem. >> keep your arms down. >> how am i going to gay marry megan kelly if i do not get the satisfaction from the supreme court? >> here it is. >> i'll start with you eric. what makes you come nonet and be submissive and who died and made you scientist in chief? >> not submissiveness per se. it was poorly constructed. >> i was offended by your piece. i didn't like what you wrote one bit and i think you're judging people. you sound like somebody who's judging but wants to say i'm not, i'm not now let me judge judge, judge. by the way science science science, fact, fact, fact, this is a list saying your science is wrong and your facts are wrong. >> wow! wow! [ applause ] what up, sista! and then, i need some love music. then she stood up.

for the gays. when do you hear that on fox? after reading allowed from erickson's blog post responding to the controversy kelly presented him with counter factuals. thank you. >> kelly is good when it comes to social issues. she takes bill o'reilly on quite a bit when it comes to social issues. >> stephanie: she also had that classic -- republican math that makes you feel better when karl rove said no, no, no, you're calling it too soon. >> megan kelly is one of the good issue people. >> megan kelly is no longer with us, we regret to inform you. >> stephanie: she's disappeared into the dirt hole in the fox pavement. violence of the mouthy chicks. >> sometimes mouthy chicks have accidents. >> stephanie: okay. she said there is data in the scientific community that suggests children of homosexual parents fair no worse than children of heterosexual couples and there's plenty of data that

suggests children of working moms as oppose today stay-at-home moms wind up just as healthy and and able to thrive as children of stay at home mothers. erickson waved away the findings. he suggested women can't have it all and are making compromises by trying to be a mother and trying to balance that with being a good parent. it is just the reality. are you judging them, kelly shot back. you came out clearly and said women who choose to work instead of staying at home are imposing a worse future on their children. i view it as a statement of fact when you have a mom working full time and coming home to be a full time mom as well. it is difficult and 3/4 of the public agree. kelly responded just because you have people that agree with you doesn't mean it is not offensive. she pointed out his blog calling him out for laughing off his critics by labeling them feminists and liberals. wow. someone on fox has been labeled a liberal? she then tore him into him once more. i was offended by the piece nonetheless. i don't like what you wrote one bit. i think you're judging people.

the thing we played. >> you responded humina, humina, humina. look over there. benghazi. >> he did backtrack quite a bit. >> stephanie: she later pointed to 69 studies over 59 years of research to dispel his science asking him why are resupposed to take your word for it. erick erickson's science instead of the experts. i think the experts can be as politically motivated as anyone else. >> they're probably chicks. >> stephanie: chick-perts. lots of dismissive chuckling coming from eric. and at one point dobbs calling kelly, oh, dominant one in a joking manner. wow. actually, i would have liked to see it right after the sessionment. the ear thing. >> the guy in the earwax commercial on current. ow! because he just got an earful from megan kelly.

ow. >> i think we're going to get boxes and boxes of those things. >> really? >> stephanie: i want to buy everything i see. the wrinkly hose. >> the wrinkly hose. i swear to god you'll see in my browser, i have it in my list of things to buy. >> and all of your diabetes supplies. >> no, i do not need that. i'm not sweet enough. all right. okay. mediaite brings us the story adorable cheerios commercial with interracial couple -- >> this is sad. >> stephanie: is this another 1953 story? mediaite says despite it being 2013 fears of machination -- see, i just thought -- >> you leave out random syllables. >> words that are too long. >> just shorten it a little. nobody will notice. >> stephanie: being largely a thing of the distant past, we need nostalgic music.

it managed to cause controversy over something as innocuous as a cheerios commercial featuring a fictional interracial couple and their adorable daughter. they posted the new commercial to their youtube page and has garnered more than 265,000 views but not without a hefty share of vitriolic comments about a multirace family. a guy at ad week says -- reported the ad could be interpreted as a political statement by those not in tune with the fact there are hundreds of thousands of couples who are interracial. a as a result, the youtube comment section has evolved into an endless flame war with references to nazis and racial genocide. at what point will an ad like this seem normal? cheerios has closed down and scrubbed the comment section. because apparently we've all gotten in marsha blackburn's time machine. >> this is why we can't have

nice things. >> stephanie: this is why we can't have nice things. no nice cheerios now because of you. >> i was never a fan of cheerios because it wasn't loaded with sugar. >> it was like a sandbag of sugar. >> had a layer of sugar in the bowl. >> i was a fat child because of cheerios. >> stephanie: because of cheerios. i hate them for a totally different reason. >> stephanie: 18 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> what's all of that noise? >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

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let's go to cynthia in tulsa. you're on the "the stephanie miller show." hi cynthia. >> caller: hi. okay. fyi, back story years ago we lived in southern oklahoma. the doctor would charge on an as could pay basis. she was given all kinds of -- over several years and finally they told her if you don't start charging minimum medicare payments we will not pay you at all. so the doctor had to charge medicare payments at that point. from then on. and that was just so unfair because where else could you go for $5 or $10 and see a doctor. and she really -- she had to put -- bottom line is she had to put -- i'm sorry on the front

door. >> stephanie: i hear ya. by the way -- this just in from hot brie. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ♪ ] our friend, melissa fitzgerald. why is maternal mortality so high in the u.s.? the u.s. of one of 23 countries where maternal mortality is on the rise. that may change once the new affordable care act comes into effect. >> women dying during childbirth? >> stephanie: a glimpse at why the rates may be so high. future pregnant women is on the threshold of dramatic change. it marks the day medicaid will be required to cover preventive care for women. it doesn't stop there. by 2014, health insurance providers will be required to cover the full fee from contraception to post-natal checkups. imagine a life without pay for post-natal care. america remains one of 23 country where is maternal mortality is on the rise. the rates are hire proportionally more u.s. women or new mothers are dying than in

49 other countries. >> u.s.a., u.s.a.! >> we're number -- [ bleep ] >> stephanie: the affordable care act is designed to, you know address. >> here is a 1950s ad made for you, stephanie. >> skinny girls aren't glamor girls. how to add glamorous curves to your figure. if you're a normal, healthy underweight person and are ashamed of injure skinny, scrawny figure, new mall may help you add pounds. of firm, attractive flesh to your figure. a doctor-approved formula contains essential vitamins and minerals that may aid your appetite then you eat more and enjoy what you eat. but that isn't all. it contains a food element which also is a braving great help in putting on weight. don't let them snicker at your skinny scrawny figure. skinny scarecrow figure is not fashionable or glamorous. the girls with the glamorous

curves get the dates. >> stephanie: another reason why i can't catch a man. >> we all knew that because you're too skinny. >> stephanie: right. that's why there was no spinning in 1953. they were ever able to sell that to women. here's something to make you gain weight. >> if you're scrawny, you don't have curves. >> stephanie, you don't have womanly curves. you have right angles. >> you're all over the place. >> you're too mannish. >> stephanie: mark in ohio, you're on the "the stephanie miller show." hello, mark. >> caller: hi, kids. >> hello. >> i'm a critical care nurse. i work at a large nonprofit healthcare provider in central ohio. now, we are being put on the rack because the center for medicaid and medicare has issued what's called hcaps. it is where part of our reimbursement is based on subjective criteria such as patient satisfaction.

which plays a large part in our reimbursement as well as the objective criteria of patient outcomes and mortality and morbid iterates. now, the thing is our ceo is getting a seven-figure income. and we're being told that if we don't meet these patients satisfaction goals our reimbursements will be cut. we won't get any bonuses or raises or we're going to face higher co-pays for our insurance and everything else. this is part of the problem because the ccms is looking for ways to actually deny payment for services. >> stephanie: yeah. >> corporations are people my friend. >> stephanie: exactly. 29 minutes after the hour. rude pundit is next on "the stephanie miller show."

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>> what's going on? are you being so happy and nice? are you soaking your tampons in vodka again? >> we're on to you! >> stephanie: 34 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. we're awaiting the supreme court apparently has made a ruling on prop 8. we don't know what it is. i don't know at what point we'll hear that. >> could be today tomorrow, sometime this week. who knows. the supreme court never announces when they're going to do things. they just do things. >> stephanie: rude pundit, he has my favorite description of clarence thomas ever.

♪ the rude pundit ♪ ♪ pundit ♪ ♪ ooh papa, papa, who ♪ >> stephanie: good morning rudeness. >> good morning. >> stephanie: you say it is another piece you're writing about. the lesson from scalia and rockets and -- be roberts and scalia's appendage. >> this thing that's connected to him. i don't know who is leeching off of who. >> we don't know. >> stephanie: who is the barnacle and who is the boat. >> stephanie: who is the rhino and who is the egret. i love you don't bother to say clarence thomas. you love that everyone will know who you mean. >> there's no reason to. it is not like he tries -- makes any effort to make his presence known. >> yeah. >> stephanie: tule, the point of your piece is anton scalia is a [ bleep ] and can't be bothered. sometimes the expanse [ bleep ]

of supreme court justice scalia is breathtaking. i'm sure we'll hear some of that in the prop 8 ruling whatever it turns out to be, right? >> it is interesting scalia today joined three of the more -- three of the liberal justices in a dissent on the dna swab case. >> stephanie: rude, for people who just ruled in, what was the ruling? >> it was 5-4 saying that taking a dna swab from somebody who's been arrested is something they can do under the fourth amendment. same thing as fingerprinting or anything else. they laid down a pretty strict rule for what it means. you can't just be stopped and swabbed. but it is still kind of frightening. >> stephanie: you know, with all -- we've talked about this before. now that it appears the day is here on this prop 8 ruling, every now and again justices surprise us. what do you think at the end of the day is going to happen?

>> with prop 8 i think they'll throw it back at a lower court and go with that. i think the big thing is that doma will fall. >> stephanie: right. >> it seems like -- that might even be a bigger, more one-sided decision than -- >> stephanie: we're all reading tea leaves. it is significant it looks like the prop 8 ruling will be first before doma? >> i think so. it could be -- who knows these things. when they get -- when they finally get them written and everything but it could be that it was an easier thing to come up with because they are throwing it back at a lower courts. because of standing and all of that. >> yeah. you know, we've been talking all morning because marsha blackburn was on "meet the press" and said women don't want equal pay laws. we've been reading nostalgic 1950s ads. >> good. >> stephanie: an interesting -- we've lost jean stapleton of the classic sitcom "all in the family."

>> finally stifled. [ buzzer ] >> rude, louise. >> too soon? >> yeah. >> i grew up watching "all in the family." >> stephanie: me, too. let's all sing. you know you want to. hang on. here we go in honor of jean statementton. ♪ songs that made the hit parade ♪ ♪ guys like us, we had it made ♪ ♪ those were the days ♪ ♪ >> stephanie: the tea party anthem.

♪ those were the days ♪ [ applause ] [ applause ] >> they had to re-record that last line because no one knew ha they were saying. >> you know, i remember -- it was a huge event when major things happened on "all in the family," the episode where edith was raped the episode where -- >> she had a breast cancer scare. >> yeah. so those were always -- when she turned on archie when she was going through menopause. >> she told him to stifle it. >> told him to stifle it. >> not to mention she was also, you know, this great singer. and stage actor. >> stephanie: yes and carroll o'connor not really a racist as it turns out.

>> far from it. >> right. right. >> stephanie: posthumous shout out to ding bat as archie would say. >> this is going to make me sad ridiculously. that when edith died and archie found the shoe under the bed yeah just devastated. >> stephanie: we were going to try to get rob reiner on today. he's filming. he's a director. >> same excuse every time. >> stephanie: making some big movie back east. but anyway, i thought isn't that funny. it is like in the scene this morning, just about nostalgia. by the way you are nostalgic for louisiana your home state. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ♪ ] >> oh, yeah. >> stephanie: you grew up, as we know in louisiana. >> no, not that. not pennsylvania. >> stephanie: louisiana. >> i don't want to be in that

hell hole. >> stephanie: you write a number of things. you say guns in a stunning coincidence. louisiana has the highest rate of gun violence and the weakest gun safety laws according to a recent national study. state lawmakers are moving as you would expect to address that by moving to expand the statutes. in addition to pushing for a bill to nullify federal laws on semi-automatic weapons, they made it a crime to release or publish information on concealed permit holders because that's just what louisiana does. >> because the second amendment is more important than the first. despite the first being first. >> right. >> stephanie: there's that. oh, by the way the recent ricin-containing threatening letters sent to bloomberg postmarked from shreveport, louisiana. >> all note suspect is from texas but apparently he crossed state lines to go and mail them in shreveport. so yeah. also loved they interviewed all

of the people in shreveport that were shocked that somebody there would do that. i thought wow! you've never been to shreveport, really, have you? >> stephanie: speaking of guns you noted the same story we did in your post, it is an armed world after all. how much of a small [ bleep ] paranoid coward do you have to be to bring a load gun to disney world? the question answered when a small paranoid coward brought a cobra 380 automatic pistol to the magic kingdom. the story unbelievable. >> somebody sent me a link. it is like a rite of passage among some gun owners to sneak a gun into disney world. somebody posted on a concealed carry web site that i carried into disneyland for the first time. it is like really? so you expect there to be a second? >> stephanie: disney authorities can order a guest to leave for violating the policy but if the owner legally possesses the weapon, they

cannot face charges. had to leave the park. bad man sad. but hey bring your guns. never know if you have to take out chip anddale. >> who knows if the genie from aladdin is acting up, there is payback. >> stephanie: also out of your home state on education you say long-necked cartoon character bobby jindal, governor of louisiana, has been all about his voucher program donating [ bleep ] tons of state education money to church run schools in the name of freedom to be as stupid as stumps. how is that going for you all there? >> oh, yeah. on the standardized tests which you know, conservatives love the standardized tests. 40% of -- only 40% of voucher students are scoring at or above the grade level. with -6r9% of regular public school students are.

>> stephanie: the public schools taught by public school students the paragons of greed and sloth. >> except when a school is being shot up. >> i looked over the numbers is that at schools like the upper room bible church academy -- >> oh, god. >> the science course, 93% of the students got either unsatisfactory or approaching basic. which i love that as something. approaching basic. you've almost got a rudimentary understanding of something. >> stephanie: awesome. then you say better than holy ghost elementary where no joke, 100% of the students scored at those levels. >> scoring below basic. 7th graders. >> stephanie: can't they at least change it to herp derp elementary? >> you know. i guess when all you can do is draw a picture of jesus riding a dinosaur, that's science. >> stephanie: thank you for calling doi high school.

they don't even know which end of the phone to answer. can't hear you. >> yelling. >> stephanie: rudeness, great stuff as always. we'll talk to you next week after the big supreme court rulings. >> wee! >> stephanie: 45 minutes after the hour. back with the remaining moments of "the stephanie miller show." >> hello! here's something we hope you'll really like. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." washington continues to screw the middle class over. cenk off air i don't want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. cenk on air you got to go to the local level, the state level and we have to fight hard to make sure they can't buy our politics anymore. cenk off air and they can question if i'm right about that. but i think the audience gets that, i actually mean it. cenk on air 3 trillion dollars in spending cuts! narrator uniquely progressive and always topical the worlds largest online news show is on current tv. cenk off air and i think the audience gets, "this guys to best of his

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>> stephanie: 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. we've been nostalgic for all things retro this morning. pia zadora arrested on battery. >> the price of success is very high. especially for a woman. >> of course it is. >> i don't suppose i'm the only one who's had to [ bleep ] her way to the top. >> that, of course is pia zadora. >> stephanie: she had a punch line in 1981. >> apparently the punch line again. >> stephanie: oh jim. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ♪ ] >> stephanie: singer, actress pia zadora, the horrible movie shed the butterfly and the lonely lady. that clip comes from the lonely lady.

>> stephanie: she's going to be a lonely lady again it looks like. now we know why she's a lonely lady. >> she's at the oscars accepting her award and she says that at the oscar ceremony. >> stephanie: couldn't tom brokaw announce this? >> lonely lady. >> stephanie: she's been arrested on suspicion of domestic battery and coercion, maybe coherselfing him to watch one of her awful films. a 1-year-old zadora -- 51-year-old zadora booked. third husband. >> oh, dear. first two obviously couldn't take a punch. >> had a glass jaw. >> stephanie: zadora has been married to her third husband las vegas police detective -- he's a police detective. yikes. the couple met after zadora contacted police to report a stalking incident. i guess that was someone else stalking her i'm guessing. all right. >> well, okay.

>> stephanie: that is just a really odd story. >> that happened. >> stephanie: so that happened. hey, speak of nostalgia for joe mccarthy, ted cruz. there is a piece in salon. ted cruz's personality problem. as it turns out he's a bit of a douche according to people on both sides of the aisle. somebody said that from both sides of the aisle, when you say his name there is just a titanic eye rolling. the texas senator is annoying and doesn't play well with others. will that doom his white house ambitions? one only hopes not. ted cruz has sharp elbows. he's already managed to annoy several senators and appears to have sparked a full-on feud with senator john mccain. he wants to be president of the united states. >> john mccain does still? >> stephanie: no. ted cruz. >> i was going say. >> stephanie: to be the republican nominee salon writes he will need the support of his republican colleagues. the 2012 election showed it is hard to win the nomination

unless you're preferred by the vast majority of your party's leaders as was romney which is to say it pays to be nice to your colleagues. where crew stands out and where he gets in trouble with his senate colleagues, his willingness to use demagogic rhetoric on chuck hagel and his frequent attacks on republican leaders. >> attacks on chuck hagel. >> many members of congress may see themselves as targets of those attacks. best of luck to him. >> i have in my hand a list of 205 communists in the state department. >> stephanie: wow. looky here. can i have my conspiracy music please? you know what? benghazi has come full circle now. >> oh, boy. >> stephanie: louie gohmert who is -- >> a gohmert. >> stephanie: he's kind of a gohmert. if not for john mccain, benghazi would not have happened. >> what now? >> huh? >> this is awesome! >> stephanie: texas

congressman louie gohmert has a new culprit in the benghazi saga, fellow republican john mccain. conservative radio host gaffney. that guy. asked gohmert to comment on mccain's hobnobbing with jihadists during his recent trip to syria. gohmert brought up a similar trip of mccain's to libya where he feels mccain's policy opposes moammar gadhafi. that's spectacular. if it had not been for senator john mccain and president obama being for what we knew at the time included al-qaeda anti-rebel forces, we would still have an ambassador alive because benghazi would not have happened. this is spectacular. they've turned on each other. [ applause ] john mccain's fault. this is -- >> oh, boy. >> stephanie: right wing is imploding before our very eyes. [ explosion ] >> stephanie: oh, you may as well start the music again. from the "daily beast," grover norquist is a muslim.

>> what? >> stephanie: starting to turn on each other. >> who says grover norquist is a muslim? >> stephanie: the g.o.p. doesn't need the latino vote and other crack pot theories. >> so it is really achmed norquist. >> stephanie: how do you spot a secret muslim? a beard is a good way. that's how kathy adams former chairman of the republican party of texas current president of the eagle forum you know, little outfit. unmasked grover norquist. he explained that the anti-tax lobbyist is part of a stealth jihad being carried out in the u.s. as you can see, he has a beard. he's married to a muslim woman. but he denies he has converted himself. norquist isn't the only prominent figure involved in this secret jihad. he suggested clean shaven john brennan can be an undercover muslim as well but obviously cleverly shaved his beard to

avoid detection. >> stephanie: you have a beard! [ ♪ dramatic ♪ ] >> wait a minute! >> stephanie: i just noticed chris lavoie. >> he's facing mecca. >> well, not quite. >> stephanie: where is the outcry? where is the outcry? thank god that ted cruz is now in the united states senate. that's right. i'm sure he'll snuff out the secret mus limbs also speaking at the eagle forum the groups founder, phyllis gave the republican party a helpful tip. >> like ted cruz. >> the idea that the g.o.p. needs to court the latino voters is a great myth. >> wait a minute. tet cruz. >> spanish name. >> they need to hone in on the people they have a chance of winning, white people. >> spain is occupied by the -- >> stephanie: where are the white women at? >> where are the white women at? >> spain is occupied by the muslim -- for 800 years.

cruz has a spanish last name. [ ♪ dramatic ♪ ] >> i knew it. >> thereof, ted cruz is a muslim! >> stephanie: he's in on the whole thing. okay. >> you're going to sleep well tonight. >> stephanie: are you absolutely right phyllis, there are enough old cranky white people for you to win majorities for years to come. go with that! go for it. okay. >> have you ever been to alhambra? [ ♪ dramatic ♪ ] spanish words with al. >> the alhambra was a mosque at one point. >> yes, it was. >> stephanie: joan in wisconsin. we've been sucked down the rabbit hole. hello, joan. >> caller: hi, how are you doing, stephanie? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: i gotta tell you, i just threw out my grandson his cheerios. he's going to have to eat my razin bran this weekend. >> uh-oh. >> stephanie: all right. go ahead.

>> caller: reason i'm calling is we have three bills going on in wisconsin. with our wonderful scott walker. one, he's increasing vouchers to private schools. >> stephanie: great. that's working great. >> caller: oh, yeah. >> of course, he's rejecting the medicaid changes and the federal funding for obamacare. and so we're pretty much screwed unless you make $15,000 or less, there is a badger care that you're eligible for. but that's about it. you make a certain percentage above that. >> stephanie: yep yep stop badgering me. i know. all right. but don't forget, hal sparks filling in for me, jacki schechner, also live in studio with you mooks tomorrow. have fun kids. don't break anything. >> we'll have some popcorn.

>> don't leave the ming vase around.

i'm jacki schechner. it's noon eastern. the white house is hosting a day-long mental health conference today designed to increase awareness and introduce new measures that may help alleviate the stigma of mental illness and encourage those who are suffering from it to seek treatment. as part of his opening remarks the president spoke specifically about the problem of mental illness issues facings our troops as they return from war and how dire the situation has become. >> obama: today, we lose 22 veterans a day to suicide. 22. we've got to do a better job than that. of preventing these a ul too often silent tragedies. >> we have