[♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: wow. jacki learned a new song. look at that. hello. [ laughter ] >> it's in honor of summer. i thought i would expand by repertoire from one to two. >> stephanie: that was jazzy. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> stephanie: i think you are feeling perky because we are having another health care corner this morning. this is important in the wake of

this latest gunman that was obviously mentally ill. it's better coordination in mental health and regular physicians. >> yes, it's all good news. >> stephanie: oh, dear. >> counter to what the republicans would tell you. >> stephanie: oh, dear we will talk about that latest wrinkle in a health care corner. and now here she is jacki schechner. >> good morning, everybody. the senate is going to vote today on whether or not to move forward with comprehensive immigration reform. the compromise is up for discussion and carves out a 13-year path towards silt sinship for the 11 million or so undocumented immigrants living in the united states. even though some republicans have serious problems with the proposaled law, most have indicated at least a willingness to let the motion move forward. meaning it should get the 60 yes votes it needs to continue. some conservatives say the past

to citizenship constitutional ought tos amnesty. when the bill gets out of the senate, it is going to matter how many votes it gets because if it manages to pass the 70-vote benchmark, it will give the house added incentive to pass its own legislation. john boehner says he is confident they can get something done by the end of the year. there will be a speech next hour, and surrounded by supporters from a wide range of arenas, that would include the president of the u.s. chamber of commerce and president of the afclio. hillary clinton hasn't only sent out one tweet so far. she hopped on to twitter for the very first time yesterday, mentioning the two men who created the campy name.

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1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. all right. we have no official theme song. everybody just calm down! [♪ dramatic music ♪] >> stephanie: everybody just remain calm. all right. what is more fun than talking to lawyers? nothing. >> wait a minute, who is the one who had to talk to the lawyers? i'm sorry who is the one that had to get screamed at by the lawyers? >> stephanie: i was on my way to cnn, i couldn't be bothered. i'm more of a big picture gal, jim. more good news about the affordable care act. we'll talk about that. charlie pierce esquire.com as usual on tuesday. and wow, the opinion on this thing is cattywompus all over the place. by the way i got hate mail for you and you.

[ applause ] >> oh, good. >> stephanie: this kind of subject so all over the place in terms of opinion, you -- you need to watch your tone when you are talking to jim. because jim's opinion is valid too. and you need to worry about putting out unsupported controversial conspiratorial things. name one thing. >> stephanie: just in general. whether it's medical information -- >> and they called in to agree with me. >> stephanie: i know. but that's another subject for another time. i'm just saying. all right. we said yesterday, look -- and that's fine, you always have a healthy skepticism of government in general. >> and the private sector. >> the for profit prisons that's not the government.

>> stephanie: right. and i fall somewhere in the middle. i do not believe the bush administration was behind 9/11, i don't. [overlapping speakers] >> stephanie: all right. >> but it's -- >> stephanie: okay. i get it, you were quoting daniel ellsberg. history is a lie agreed upon is what nap pole -- napoleon said. >> stephanie: right. this is a healthy debate. there are certain people you trust when you say something, for instance al franken. [♪breaking news theme♪] >> stephanie: his picture is right there. staring at me. he points out he has availed himself of the briefings. a lot of peement too are talking about stuff they don't know about. anyway he points out as a member

of the judiciary committee -- and do i trust this more than what republican mike rogers says? yes, i do. there are things over the years that -- yes, i do i tend to trust him more. he points out he has availed himself of the briefings, and nothing that was made public lately surprised him. he said there are things that are appropriate for me to know that is note appropriate for the bad guys to know. if there are suspicions, we can connect the dots. and that's correctcos what dianne feinstein says. >> uh-huh. >> stephanie: do i understand the concerns about it? absolutely. and people have made some interesting points on both sides of it, but i think there is a difference, and jim, there is a difference between metadata and listening in on people's phone calls and spying and it depends

on what you believe and who you believe, and even last time daniel ellsburg he wrote a whole peace, and jeffery tuben thinks he is a self grandizing jerk who belongs in prison. >> maybe it is both. >> stephanie: oh job opening. dear sir or madam lately has a position has opened up for $200,000 for a person who has no high school degree and works in hawaii. i would like to apply for the job and will only need $100,000 a year and will work from home.

you may think i'm being facetious, but the more i read this message the less sure i am of your security and mine. [ applause ] >> stephanie: there are so many questions about this you are like how -- what? how does a guy get this job with this level of clearance. >> failing upwards. >> stephanie: how -- that seems to be a problem, private contractor -- >> that's what i was just about ready to say. >> stephanie: -- would have this degree of -- >> a private company should not have access to this kind of information. how was my tone. [ applause ] >> stephanie: that was perfect. the management appreciates your efforts. that help make up for screwing up on the music front. >> oh, don't even. >> stephanie: the majority of

americans still don't care about the nsa spying on them. >> yeah. >> stephanie: i was with a liberal friend this weekend, and she is like i don't really clear. >> i posted that on my facebook page and my roommate is like that poll is poppycock. >> who uses a word like papi -- poppycock. >> stephanie: yeah. rude pundit said first of all you are stupid if you didn't know this was going on. here is my main thing, jim, because you are the natural skeptic. i understand whistle blowing, but in this case where is the crime? this is not the government doing

something illegal. this is something that congress passed and that they have oversight of. the white house were briefed a zillion times. so anybody on the right that says oh, my god, we don't know about it this is obama -- no it's not. dianne feinstein said i'm open to every month having new oversight. but to say they are doing something illegal is not trust. so what did he blow the whistle on? i don't get it? it is wider than maybe we realized. >> all of the documents haven't been released yet. more and more is going to come out as this thing goes along. >> stephanie: and someone else said that maybe we should hold off on what we defy or vilify

him for. >> exactly. >> stephanie: we have always said you have to be consisted, when they outed valley plain, to me that was clear treason, and people probably got killed because of that. that couldn't have been clearer to me. you know, this leak you go this clearly is a huge -- this -- people -- a lot of people could die. this is the largest national security leak in our history, and again, an yell ellsburg said nobody died from his leak, and maybe he was proven out on that and jacki was the person who brought that up yesterday, there was definitely a self grandizing portion of this. and it's like why are you looking to get away if you think you are such a hero. he may have miscalculated by the way about hong kong. >> and i love how he is so

worried about america becoming a totalitarian state that he fled to china. >> yeah. >> stephanie: were it's germany, i would be a little hyperbolic at this point. but any way, pew >> pew! >> pew! >> stephanie: pugh research poll said almost 60% of the country thinks the nsa spying on them is fine, or don't care. asked if it was acceptable people in 2006, 2010 and today, expressed about two to one support. >> i'm concerned about the slippery slope. it's like i have known nothing wrong as far as you know. >> stephanie: right, i think that argument is valid too, that that's the argument people use for a lot of things like oh, what do you have to worry about if -- and i personally think

well-known southern bell lindsey graham should be a little concerned about his private conversations, since he seems to be so private as a citizen. >> i think he might find his grinder profile. >> stephanie: could be. who knows. about a thousand calls are texted to john mccain while he was in syria, what ya doing? why so distant? but hey, the good news great topic for talk radio. maybe someone in talk radio is behind this leak. [♪ dramatic music ♪] >> aha! >> stephanie: all right. seventeen minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> oh, come on! you have got to admit this is cool! >> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪

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[♪breaking news theme♪] >> stephanie: edward snowden is crazy, his girlfriend is hot. >> maybe it started to get scared. >> stephanie: she is the pole dancer. look at her. she is hot. not as hot as the official pole dancer of the "stephanie miller show." hot brie. melissa fitzgerald. >> stephanie: i'm a pole. >> you are half pole. >> stephanie: right. a blog that reportedly belonged to the girlfriend of the man who left their home, said she feels all alone. well, no kidding, because your boyfriend is an [ censor bleep ] hole. he didn't tell her. do you want the fun facts?

>> sure. >> stephanie: it's even worse. [♪ fun-facts music ♪] >> i'm not going to be home for dinner tonight. >> stephanie: she moved there with him. >> i'll give you a call from iceland. i got to get jacki on the phone about this. she moved to hawaii with him. she blogged for those of you who know me probably understand why i won't be blogging for a while. my world has opened and closed all at once leaving me lost at sea without a campus. mills an acrobatic poll performer is the girlfriend of edward snowden. i'm guessing she is not -- >> i am not one of your fans! >> stephanie: hero! he's a [ censor bleep ] stick!

bastard person! [ laughter ] >> stephanie: blah blah blah oh, the poetic blog -- oh poetry and a poll dancer jim. and very vulnerable right now. >> sensitive and athletic. >> stephanie: very vulnerable jim, all alone, lost at sea. perhaps you can help her with your personal gps. >> sure. >> stephanie: written by mills under the initial l for lindsay, has several references to e. his face is invisible. >> like that line from mommy dearest. if she doesn't like you, she makes you go away. all of the pictures in the house have her ex-husband cut out of them. >> stephanie: for those who have

forgotten -- for those who have forgotten! i'm not mentioning any names! i moved to hawaii to continue my relationship with e. okay. then before detailing a weekend night -- >> he turned out to be kind of a d. >> stephanie: right. d-bag. i looked over at e and smiled. i felt grown up suburban oddly content. he probably felt trapped! because he's a jerk! i'm having my own issues. sorry. >> project much? >> stephanie: i was happy to find my romantic date in the end. in the same post l says she remembers when she and e fell in love -- i'm guessing he is just a now -- fell in love in little

street festivals in japan. blah blah blah. snowden said he had a very comfortable life that includes a girlfriend with whom he shared a home in hawaii. i'm willing to sacrifice all of that -- >> whatever! >> stephanie: travis get lindsay the poll dancer on the phone! >> get l. >> stephanie: jacki and i have some stuff to talk to her about. the latest. all right. would you leave that jerk? gary in texas, hi gary. >> caller: good morning, steph. i love the way you are giving your coverage on leak gate. but we haven't touched on the 800-pound gorilla in the room which seven if congress repealed

the patriot act, do you think the nsa is going to stop what they are doing? they bought a $2 billion facility -- >> stephanie: yeah, rude pundit said that yesterday, do you really think that any president is going to give this back? and so i agree with you, but i got to say -- not to be an obama apologist, but i'm just saying chris, if there's a terrorist attack, people are going to care about this, and what do you do when you are the leader of the free world, and you have this information. what call would you make? >> that's why i keep saying it is a sticky wicket. >> stephanie: it is, and you can stop saying that now. >> i will do that. >> stephanie: that's a sticky wicket that she is swinging around on the poll with.

right back on the "stephanie miller show." to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.

♪ >> announcer: stephanie miller. >> i feel like the tattoo on aida tutoral's left boob. i feel gross. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome it to. thirty-four minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. oh, i'm just reading more from edward snowden's girlfriend's blog. oh! [♪ dramatic music ♪] >> stephanie: bastard person. just saying -- >> and i'll tell you why i can't put up with you people, because you are bastard people!

>> stephanie: right. i'm just saying as a girl i need to comment from a girl's point of view. daniel ellsburg thoughts on what a hero -- >> whatever! [♪ somber music ♪] >> stephanie: lindsay mills feels lost at sea. in need of gps. >> which island? >> stephanie: oahu. >> stephanie: because as we all know, men will never ask for directions because your penis serves as gps of sorts. >> recalculating. >> stephanie: she moved there with him, and he didn't tell her anything about this, and again, as a listener said one of the most [ censor bleep ] ways ever to break up with someone. mills said she and e are moving writing e and i received the

keys to our next abode yesterday. the couple took time to visualize the rooms once their stuff was in it. two weeks after they moved in snowden disappeared somewhere in hong kong. mills has not appeared publicly since. she is playing "i will survive," eating hogendas. again, jim, she is adrift. >> adrift in hawaii. >> stephanie: in need of spooning, barely clothed. because it's hot in hawaii. >> sure.

janiqua will be with me in hawaii. >> stephanie: oh. honey i have to go to oahu for a few nights. >> it's complicated. i could tell you, but i would have to kill you. >> it's classified. >> yeah. but here you can listen in. >> stephanie: she says surely there will be villainous pirates. >> if this is poetry it is awful. >> stephanie: yeah. he was probably like really? do i have to hear more haiku tonight? maybe there's distracting mermaids. oh, maybe there's cheating of another kind going on today! [♪ dramatic music ♪] >> stephanie: maybe he was [ censor bleep ] darrell hannah

who knows. todays of change in this new open water tail of my journey. i'm wondering how he landed a poll dancer. >> maybe they are both spies. [ scooby-doo's "huh?" ] >> stephanie: oh. >> a distraction. >> stephanie: but at the moment all i can feel is alone and for the first time in my life i feel strong enough to be on my own. well, not like he gave you a choice. though, i never imagined my hand would be so forced. mills' mother declined to respond on the relationship. i imagine behind closed doors she is somewhat chattier. also not a fan. >> i am not one of your fans! >> stephanie: slam.

1-800-steph-1-2, the phone number. mark in boston. >> caller: yeah, i have heard you guys talk about the number of security clearances out there. if you have a security clearance it's kind of like an insurance policy in that you don't use it that often, you have it. you usually have it for like ten years, and there is a small part of the time that you actually get access to secured material or classified material. >> stephanie: well and there are different levels obviously. >> caller: exactly. so unless you positively need that information, you are not going to get access unless you can prove or have someone above you approve access to that. >> stephanie: yeah, and i think one of the questions is why are we subcontracting out to private contractors --

>> caller: because that's where the innovation is happening. unfortunately you work for the government there's not a lot of innovation there. the pay is steady, but there's not a lot of room for growth. and you would have to invest billions if not trillions of dollars into innovation and research. >> stephanie: yeah. i don't know if you saw the apple ceo, called it the biggest change to ios since the iphone unreveiled a radical overhaul -- >> caller: right. >> stephanie: and no matter what we do we can't keep up with the technology anyway. >> caller: right. it happens in the private sector, so unfortunately, you are just not going to get that kind of innovation and when you get a security clearance you sign a document that says i cannot give out this information no matter what. so i -- i'm a liberal as the day is long, but the guy violated

that agreement. >> stephanie: thank you. see i think i'm a law and order liberal. >> caller: whether he did a good thing or bad he will be prosecuted for violating that agreement. he did break that part of the law, everything else is up for discussion. >> stephanie: i hear ya. and i think it is. and the president said it is. but you can't just say it's okay to leak -- >> and i also think the private companies can be innovative, but they shouldn't have access or be able to store information like this. >> stephanie: i'm not asking that question even for those of us like mark on the left, how can we say it was wrong to leak valerie valerie plain's name but this is right. >> right now. all he has given the public is

the information that the nsa gathers all of these numbers. apparently -- >> stephanie: there's more i guess. >> and -- and greenwald says that more documents are going to be coming out in the next weeks and months. >> stephanie: so he has dropped out of sight is the latest in hong kong. ahead of a likely push to have him sent back to america for charges. snowden had told the guardian he went to hong kong in hopes it would be a place to resist extradition attempts. courage is such a slippery thing. on monday some local officials might have suggested that

snowden might have miscalculated. hong kong is not a legal vacuum as mr. snowden might have thought. >> he is kind of dumb in that respect. >> stephanie: doy. >> hanging out in hong kong eating some food. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: yeah this part -- he said he became disenchanted for obama for continuing the surveillance policies of george w. bush. again, is this the way to protest it? and again, we know that. that's not new information. democrats and republicans reauthorized the patriot act. >> exactly. >> stephanie: and again, if you are president, what do you do? if you have to weigh -- if -- can you imagine the right if there was another terrorist attack on u.s. soil -- >> exactly. and also the patriot act is law, is obama supposed to just

completely go against the law -- >> stephanie: he said this when he was senator. well he wasn't a senator with access to all of this intelligence. >> he is not supposed to just break the law when he gets in office. >> stephanie: yeah. >> the as long as congress is in the hands of right-wing douche nozzles. >> stephanie: exactly. >> nothing is going to change. >> stephanie: i heard a conspiracy snausage booz allen -- i can remember that name. >> booz. >> yeah ji may change the name of this show to the booz miller show. the main steak holder is the carlisle group, and interesting theory all around this but somebody was saying was this leak on purpose to outrage

liberals to depress turn out in the next election to republicans can win. >> that seems a bit of a stretch. >> yeah, but what are they getting out of this? >> stephanie: because if you outrage liberals enough they are hoping it will hurt the president politically, i guess. >> but it also hurts carlisle's bottom line, doesn't it? >> stephanie: i don't know. how would we know that yet. james clapper said the leaks violate a sacred trust for this country. the damage these revolutions bring about are huge. that's whoey chris, they were not briefed. >> okay. >> stephanie: that's poppycock. >> stephanie: right. and again, senator franken went to all of the briefings, read all of the stuff, so that's

where he got his information from, some of these people didn't shut their pie hole and they didn't read it. why weren't we -- because you didn't go. >> you didn't show up. >> stephanie: right. the reporter on the snowden case used twitter to chide clapper -- how do we know? that's what i mean. greenwald also suggested there were more revelations to come. so again, to be continued. all right. so forty-six minutes after the hour. lots more on this. our thoughts. your thoughts, crunchy radio goodness as we continue on the "stephanie miller show." >> it is a happening spot. >> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

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wrong call and then they can go back in time and scrutinize every decision you made. >> stephanie: i have the feeling i'm being watched and recorded right now. >> oh, you are paranoid. [ cuckoo clock chimes ] >> you are a paranoid crazy. >> stephanie: in an odd way, mr. snowden has diverted attention from this issue and made himself the story. as the president made clear both the congressional and executive judicial levels that provide oversight over these programs again, mr. carney repeated [ inaudible ] how to best strike a balance between security and protection of civil liberties. while some vocal members of congress are incensed over the programs, most are not. because the politics are at times a bit scrambled -- and this is what we have said some

unlikely bed fellows -- they give obama added cover. dianne feinstein of california who i mentioned -- who i respect, said she was open to having a hearing every month on the surveillance programs if necessary. but the instances where this has produced good and prevented terrorist attacks is all classified. and mike rogers said that apparently has been debunked. republicans we're used to that -- routinely in the bush administration, oh this huge thing was foiled -- and it was debunked. so glen beck and michael moore both tweeted at almost the exact same time that he is a hero. mr. beck said hero of the year

and did mr. moore at am exact same time. ed snowden. >> originally we saw the focus very narrowingly tailored. now increasingly we see it is happening domestically. >> stephanie: here we go again is it his place -- we have elected officials, and commander in chief -- and it did seem awfully self grandizing. it seemed like i'm the arby for of -- >> but having an elected if i recall and elected president does not prevent abuse of power. and he may be trying to point out abuse of power. >> stephanie: but again as i said at the top of the hour jim, this is not illegal behavior. should we get rid of the patriot

act? maybe. >> it hasn't been found unconstitutional yet. >> stephanie: yeah and someone said yesterday could it be immoral? should we relook at it? yes, maybe. >> i have a feeling the patriot act goes against a lot of what is said in the 4th amendment. >> stephanie: a republican did maybe we needed this but maybe not now. so there are people on both sides that have interesting points of view. how about this interesting snausage by michael [ inaudible ]. on msnbc. he noted that the federal government's decision to declassify aspects of warehousing the communication's data, in the weak of the release of this information may complicate his federal prosecution. his headline is the obama administration sabotaging

prosecution of ed snowden to repair a riff with civil libertarians? he said this may complicate his federal prosecution, given the fact a successful prosecution of snowden is the least politically popular outcome the government can pursue. it is possible it was intentional. he said i do think -- >> that would definitely be chess instead of checkers. >> stephanie: yeah. i do not this is the slam dunk that some people are suggesting today. it makes it very hard to bring criminal prosecution that with leaking information that the government declassifies. they can still make the case. it is unlikely to be an impredment to mounting a

prosecution. declassification may reduce the number of charges the government could convict snowden -- >> so maybe he is preventing the patriot act -- >> stephanie: right. could it be more politically advantageous for the white house to hamper the prosecution of snowden? man, everybody has a theory on this. [ scooby-doo's "huh?" ] >> stephanie: huh? >> it sounds like something he would do. >> stephanie: yeah michael? boca raton, let's see if he agrees. hi, mike. >> caller: hi. i kind of disagree with the last caller in that i think snowden is a hero. if he's -- if he is leaking that the government is doing something that's constitutionally wrong, i mean who is the biggest leaker?

him or president obama? when we caught osama bin laden, obama went on television and bragged about the treasure trove of intelligence that we got. didn't that just shoot the intelligence community in the foot? >> no, he wouldn't have repealed that. >> caller: just doing it shoots us in the foot. why broadcast to our enemies that we have all of this information. >> stephanie: wouldn't you assume that we did. that was the whole point of going in and not taking the whole convent out with a drone or whatever. >> right. >> stephanie: >> stephanie: all right. fifty-eight minutes after the hour. we have charlie pierce coming up. don't go away. it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪

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>> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." hour number two, current tv, jacki schechner. >> i have got lots of opinions. >> stephanie: yeah come on. >> let me lay this out for you. why does he have to be a hero or traitor? why can't we find somewhere in the middle and say let's give this some time to play out. there is some stuff we're starting to hear. he has been talking to glen greenwald since february but only worked for booz alan for three months. there is like a half a million people who has the highest security clearance in the

country. i'm not entirely sure -- i just have a lot of questions. >> stephanie: "the daily beast" agree agrees agrees agrees with you. >> i just think there is a lot of information we need to sift through. >> stephanie: all right. here she is jacki schechner. >> plan b will soon be available over the counter without a prescription and without age limits to all women. the obama administration has decided to stop fighting the judge's order. the justice department ran the risk of losing the appeal and then having to escalate the political issue all the way to the supreme court. it is dropping the appeal and as soon as the application is submitted the fda will approve

it. this simply prevents contraception if a woman takes it within 72 hours of having sex. here is an odd and unfortunately story out of russia. russian lawmakers are voting on a bill that bans people from talking to kids about gay people. providing information about the lbgt community would result in a charge. russia decriminalized homosexuality almost 30 years ago, but there is still significant anti-gay sentiment. and the new law is a move think putin to shore up the base. we're back with more shore after the break. stay with us.

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♪ ♪ a beautiful day ♪ ♪ don't let it get away ♪ >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." everybody calm down. we're just experimenting with different music. everybody remain calm. we just don't feel like talking to lawyers today. >> the lawyers didn't like our tone. >> stephanie: six minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. when you say our, you mean you. >> that's because you didn't take their call. >> stephanie: don't wants to talk to me. this was on my facebook page. >> yes, i just happened to be perusing the messages on your facebook, i don't usually do that, but i checked it out

yesterday, and i was like this is pretty funny. >> stephanie: josh, i can't tell. were you even born in the 1970s. that part i like. an insult and a supposition that i am much i don't thinker than i -- much younger than i am. the pro-obama shirt you wear is a great insult to the majority of vietnam veterans. >> i was five when we got out of vietnam. >> stephanie: right. i am -- i have never even learned about vietnam in school yet, so i am so young, and was not even born in the 1970s. i am a vietnam vet and i will

tell you in my opinion you are a snidiot. you are a typical uninformed followers that has the intelligence to learn -- so i could be -- i'm just too young to be smart. over time, i could mature and learn how to use my intelligence, perhaps when i'm not an ongenu anymore. >> oh, okay! >> stephanie: but enjoy the economic benefits for being a one-sided mouthpiece for the left-side socialists. >> stephanie: today if i was going back to my conservative roots, how many radio stations could i get? >> oh, hundreds. >> stephanie: i do this for that big bag of cash. >> and socialists aren't even

organized enough to have a party. >> yeah. >> stephanie: the only woman more pissed off than ed snowden's girlfriend is the woman that wrote this letter. this is an actual litter. pc magazine's choice award for the best letter. an austin texas woman sent this to procter & gamble regarding one of their feminine products. without the leak guard core or dry wave absorb antsy i would probably never go horseback riding. kudos on being the only company to realize the wings are so

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product have a happy period. are you [ censor bleep ] serious? did anything above sound the least bit pleasant? for the love of god pull your head out, man, if you have to slap a moronic message wouldn't it be more appropriate to say something like put down the hammer? i will not miss your brand of condescending bull [ censor bleep ], and that's a promise i will be keep. always, wendy. [ applause ] >> stephanie: that is hilarious. >> that sounded a little fishy to me. so i checked snopes.com and

that's a mixture of real and not real. the letter is real but she never sent it to procter & gamble. >> stephanie: she should have. i'm going to forward it. dana good morning. >> caller: good morning. how is everybody? >> stephanie: good go ahead. >> caller: chris, love your shirt. should be taco day every day. and poor t-bone i'm crying about peter paige. i am absolutely crushed they missed that yesterday. i love him. >> stephanie: you don't have a dvr? >> caller: i do and i forgot to set it. and oh, i would kick myself. >> stephanie: oh, okay. >> caller: i don't email that much anymore, so i don't really care if anyone is reading what i write. like game of throwns squee or something, i don't think they are looking for me. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: and i don't email that much. and i don't understand why these

guys come out and say they are so proud of what they have done but they are trying to get to a country where they can't be extradited. i just think this guy is a little skeevy. >> stephanie: i think jacki brought up an interesting point. he must have been planning to do this before he started -- he was already talking to glen greenwald -- >> caller: right. and he is allegedly broke. i don't know if that's true, but he is allegedly broke, and that may be part of his motivation. and my last point to jim, haven't we been spied on forever? pretty much? >> stephanie: or it is technology, jim -- that's what i'm saying -- >> it's easier to do now. >> caller: right. it's easier to do.

and rachel did a great piece on ten year old hackers that are working for the government. >> right. it's shocking. we have one listener who thinks that edward snowden is a republican plant. >> stephanie: oh dear. >> i see things that may be disturbing, but over the course of a normal's person's career you would only see one or two of these instances. when you see everything, you see them on a more frequent basis, and you realize that some of these things are actually abuses. >> stephanie: this is what i was telling jacki about, why we should resist the hero worship. and as tends to happen. on twitter and instant columns, edward snowden, blah blah blah was declared an american

patriot. while the guardian proclaimed that snowden will go down in history as one of america's most important whistblowers. the mobs of snowden supporters who nicely overlap with the other passionate fans -- snowden himself donated $500 to paul's campaign in 2012 even a generous reading of the programs exposed by snowden should deeply trouble those of us who are

skeptical. even after snowden's disclosures do we even understand what the nsa is engaged in. that's a good point. we should be cautious in interpreting data summaries we don't fully understand. others have said that. he doesn't even know what he is talking about, greenwald doesn't and snowden doesn't. a post claim -- the nsa was tapping directly into the central servers of the nine leading internet companies -- there is a lot of hysteria when stories first break. but none of it is true. the post updated its story no longer claiming that companies such as facebook and google

provided information -- and jim don't you think that? that people tend to believe what they want to believe based on their predisposed views. >> right. especially when we have to little information. >> stephanie: right. his odd escape to hong kong also rankles. certainly had the authorities, and the thing he said about he could wiretap anyone from you blah blah blah or up to the president of the united states, and he said it was a relatively low-level 29-year-old subcontractor authorized to wiretap anyone? let's take a few breaths and resist the instant consecration of edward snowden.

>> please let's. >> stephanie: i imagine his girlfriend is. i imagine there is a dart board next to her pole that she pole dances on. all right. eighteen minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: red, white, and steph. it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪

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>> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome it to. i want that job. booz allen is already advertising for snowden's position -- >> looking for a high school dropout. >> stephanie: i'm not a high school dropout, but i love working with computers. i love hawaii. a well-known boozer. no computer skills of any kind. twenty-three minutes after the hour. this hour brought to you by gotomeeting.com. this gives us more freedom than the maxsy pads i was talking about in the last segment. freedom, freedom freedom, not the salsa dance, just to work from wherever we need to work from. kids are getting out of school, and you need time to do stuff with people that mean things with you. >> do you think you would call at it life if you had kids? >> stephanie: no, it would be

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as an excuse to obama bash oh look, it's all the same irs, benghazi, and nsa, it's all overreach -- >> whatever! >> the irs is a non-story. >> stephanie: thank you. [♪breaking news theme♪] >> stephanie: it's a republican who is in charge at the office, and said no it is me. did i mention he is a republican? representative ally ja cummings pledged to release transcripts of the interviews with officials, demonstrating that the targeting was directed by the obama administration. he made the statement a week after darrell issa appeared with the program and insin waited with no evidence as he tends to do. >> you know what i think that maybe they have done nothing at all. >> stephanie: he said i want

those transcripts to be released. wa woe. [♪ somber music ♪] >> stephanie: is is like when the exploding significant car blew up -- i am going to be governor. no you are not. he said i am willing to come on your show with the transcripts. if he doesn't i'll release them by the end of the week. cummings says the transcripts will prove the obama administration was not involved. washington did not direct the targeting. i think this has nothing to do with anything other than consistency. and rather the scrutiny began in

2010 after an irs worker identified a tea party company that was looking for tax-exempt status. based upon everything i have seen, the case is solved and if it were me i would wrap this case up and move on. okay. let's go to john in buffalo. >> caller: good morning, stephanie. >> stephanie: hello. >> caller: while we're busy shooting the messenger we're ignoring the fact that the intelligence and security is a strawman. anybody can go to a dollar store and buy a completely untraceable phone for under 50 bucks. and if they go to public wi-fi, it is completely untraceable.

and jim take a look at amdoc for information. >> stephanie: then only thing i would say is a phone at the dollar store shouldn't cost $50. >> that would be the $50 store. >> stephanie: hello joe? santa fe. >> caller: hi, snowden's girlfriend is not a pole dancer. she is actually a ballerina. a graduate of the maryland institute of art, and that picture of her on the pole is from her performing with the waikiki dance group. i think calling her a pole dancer does sort of take away from that graduate of maryland

institute of art and he is mia. >> wow! >> stephanie: that's what the abc news story called her. actually they didn't call her pole dancer -- >> i think you embellished a little bit. >> caller: she is a dancer on a pole -- >> she's a dancer from warsaw. >> stephanie: in the words of elizabeth berkeley -- >> you got that right. >> stephanie: wow. that was a juggle on my brain. you caught me, i was trying to sex up the story for ratings. [ laughter ] >> charlie pierce from esquire.com is next.

always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with

ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. ♪

>> announcer: stephanie miller. >> mom says you would make a great florida whore. what does that mean? [ laughter ] >> stephanie: pardon me i'm dumpster diving. looking for the correct information on pole dancer. oh, here it is. [♪breaking news theme♪] >> stephanie: quite a news operation we have here. abc news is saying her name is lindsay mills and she is an acrobatic pole performer. >> i bet she is. >> that would mean pole dancer. >> stephanie: yeah. but the caller is saying she is a ballerina. >> ah, damn. >> stephanie: she says she is a

ballerina. whatever. i do think it's the elizabeth berkeley -- i am a dancer dammit, as am i. >> hum? >> stephanie: hum? the president on the whole nsa thing. >> obama: every member of congress has been briefed on this program, with respect to all of these programs the relevant intelligence committees are fully briefed on these programs. >> stephanie: yeah, so that's a bunch of whoey as i said earlier. if they want to bash obama they are going to be like, oh look what he was doing, we weren't told -- yes, you were. yay carney. >> this is an investigation underway into this matter and for that reason i am not going to be able to discuss specifically this individual or this investigation.

jenny in georgia, hi jenny. hi, sweety. first of all i am so glad to talk to you because it has been a long time. and the other thing is just because i know the alpha bet doesn't mean i can write a pulitzer prize novel. and just because i know numbers, doesn't mean i can play black jack and count cards. it's like what do you do with all of that information? my feeling is -- my house is a mess because of my information or crud -- the paperwork that comes through my house and it's like that doesn't mean i can discriminate between what i pay attention to and what i throw out and what i don't. it's all matter of how do you use this information. and the idea is just because you have information, maybe can use

what they have -- >> stephanie: right. >> caller: if they have a mind to, and so it's like -- >> stephanie: right. [overlapping speakers] >> caller: their espouses and stuff like that. that's wrong. >> stephanie: yeah, and that's what i'm saying if the point is to spy on us -- but as far as we know, that is not what it is. it is metadata. it's looking for patterns that you might find among terrorists so i think it's important to know they are not looking -- trying to figure out what they are saying that your emails or listening to your phone calls. >> as far as i know yet. >> stephanie: yes. but i was right about the pole dancing so i could be right on that too. >> i think they are looking for patterns -- >> stephanie: right. >> yeah. >> so far. >> so far. >> stephanie: yes. senator dianne feinstein democrat of california yesterday. >> the program here is legal.

it has been passed by the department of justice as a legal program. it is carefully audited. >> i think this needs to go to the supreme court, and the supreme court needs to rule on this. >> stephanie: well -- >> to see -- >> stephanie: daniel ellsberg says it is unconstitutional, but until we have a ruling on that it is up to snowden to just leak all of this information -- >> he is neither an el elected nor appointed judge. >> stephanie: right. i was saying at the top of the show it is interesting -- ellsberg says a hero and a patriot, tuben says he is a self grandizing jerk. we need whist lblowers like

snowden to fight back. i think there has not been a more helpful leak ever. and thank colludes the pentagon papers. a lot of people will surely call him a traitor, but they are mistaken. so that's the other thing, jim, even he qualified it by saying from what we know so far. i very much hope manning and snowden inspire others. i disagree. the very exist of this is an abuse of the constitution. congress cannot repeal the fourth amendment to the constitution. so in that sense, chris, you are right, it would have to go to the supreme court. there is no effective congressional oversight -- and

there again dianne feinstein,al franken are saying there is and this guy is saying there isn't. they can certainly get warrants -- they can get any warrant they want. the scooping up all of the digital data of everyone that's unconstitutional. it's east germany without the mass detentions. east germany is going a little far, i think -- >> just in terms of the information gathering it is. >> stephanie: yeah keith ellison. >> i think it's a fiction. it's a fiction that everybody in congress knows. >> stephanie: and charlie pierce who we're still looking for -- he sort of said that it is the -- the size of it -- it -- the -- breadth of it is a

little breathtaking. anyway, we'll hopefully talk to charlie in a bit. let's go to mike in madison. you are on the "stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, i was wondering if anybody cease the irony in someone like john boehner talking about snowden committing treason, when the congress pours shots of it every morning. and how would they feel if we had access to all of their phone calls and meetings and who they were hanging out and rubbing elbows with, i wonder if they would feel the same way? >> stephanie: we could find out exactly how much larry krugman loves his wife. that's exactly right. >> love my right. >> stephanie: of course you do. ken in georgia. >> caller: i have two issues. the contract issue, the republicans have cut the budget so now we have to get employees

contracts. i wonder if koch brothers or haliburton might own those companies, that are contracting out, where they don't have to pay benefits. the other issue is we have had spies all through the history of the country. they spied on the anti-slavery people. they spied on the pro feminist group people. during the second world war we spied on the japanese and germans. over the years we have had checks and balances to eventually correct all of those bad things but now with the koch brother's supreme court decision, it's harder now to get the three branches of government to correct things. and so to me it's more dangerous for these private companies to have this information. >> stephanie: i agree. and that's one of the first things that i was -- the first thing i think everybody said is

how did this guy get this level of clearance. a 29-year-old high school dropout -- >> maybe it is a reality show. >> he had a ged. >> stephanie: and why are we private contracting out that level of intelligence. >> how did a guy that young get a $200,000 job. >> stephanie: hah how did he get a girlfriend that hot? >> yeah. he looks like he belongs on an itt tech commercial. >> stephanie: [ inaudible ] of california. >> we have our intel that gets briefed, but the full congress does not. there is a fine line here that we need to have greater accountability and greater transparency. >> i think the caller got it wrong about the native americans breaking the german codes. i think he is conflating the wind talkers with the capture of

the enigma machine -- >> stephanie: don't bring up anything about germany -- jim is a [overlapping speakers] >> stephanie: -- of information. >> they had no idea that language existed. >> well, languages. [♪breaking news theme♪] >> stephanie: in other bad news in choosing hong kong as the initial place to take refuge, he had selected a jurisdiction where it may be possible to delay delay extradition. agreements have been in force for more than ten years if the u.s. submits a request, we would

comply with the law. all right. representative mike rogers. >> it is not the targeted on americans. it has to be a non-u.s. person believed to be on foreign soil. >> stephanie: all right. and as you can imagine senator aqua buda has some thoughts rand paul as we continue. forty-five minutes after the hour. as we continue on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: call the political party line now. 1-800-steph-1-2. >> occupy! >> we will have class warfare. (vo) true stories, current perspective. documentaries. on current tv.

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>> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ face the power ♪ ♪ face the power ♪ ♪ we have got to face the power ♪ >> fighting the music power. >> stephanie: get it. get it. it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome it to. fifty minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. center aqua buda rand paul yesterday. >> i'm going to be asking all of the internet providers, and phone companies, ask your companies to join me in a class action lawsuit. if we get 10 million americans saying we don't want our phone records looked at then maybe somebody will wake up and things will change in washington. >> stephanie: charlie rights oh aqua buda you have more serious names than you can refer to. grow the [ censor bleep ] up please. [ applause ] >> stephanie: charlie pierce, we'll talk to him bottom of next

hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number. frank in l.a. hi, frank. >> caller: the government has been -- doesn't surprise -- the fact that they are spying us on doesn't surprise me the fact that republicans have been privatizing the government for years does. the u.s. passport got printed in another country, reagan started printing the census form -- gave the job to a private company instead of the u.s. printing office, and the thing is -- they are privatizing the prisons, and what they want to do is minimize government and give everything to the private industry. and they can't do it within the government because -- >> stephanie: right. >> caller: the government doesn't profit. >> stephanie: that was my original question. why are we contracting this out to a private company.

and how do you get that job? $200,000 a year and access to that level of intelligence secrets. >> i wish i could have made $200,000 a year when i was 29. we work in radio though. >> stephanie: exactly. lisa in detroit. hi, lisa. >> caller: hi, how are you? >> stephanie: good go ahead. >> caller: i am high on caffeine because i have been up all night blogging. always of your data is always kept. that's why you have to be careful what you put out there, because it's kept forever. >> stephanie: yep. >> caller: in detroit the mayor lost his freedom and his job, due to deleted text messages. they can retrieve anything that you have ever sent anything. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: that's what i am

upset about because this guy is getting ready to get a book deal and possibly a movie deal. >> stephanie: that's exactly what i said at the top of the show today i'm like where is the crime? wristel wristelblowing, yes, you are right. what did he expose? >> yes. that's why i don't understand it. >> stephanie: thank you, lisa. i like her. senator of the great state of maine. >> the intelligence agencies tell me that they simply could not function effectively without the personnel, technology and expertise of these private contractors. >> stephanie: and that's what a caller was saying, because they have the technology, because i was asking this question. why are we using private contractors on this. and she is the only one -- you can't get her information because she can have it

disappeared -- [ sound effects ] >> stephanie: she can do that with her nose and it disappears. >> but didn'test -- she screw up a lot? >> stephanie: right. representative king from new york. >> it is going to maybe it more difficult for us to get private companies to cooperate with us and work with us. >> stephanie: the other thing i was going to say if you were a smart terrorist, wouldn't you kind of know that already. >> exactly. i think al qaeda knows. >> stephanie: doug in hawaii. you are on the "stephanie miller show." aloha, you are in exactly right place to comfort edward

snowden's girlfriend. >> caller: she is on a different island. >> stephanie: oh, please. >> get on an out-rigger and go. >> caller: oh, yes. it's so easy. starting i guess before the iraqi war with black water and now v this -- we have enough accountability from these people to -- >> exactly. >> caller: to have any sort of control or say over them in some respects. or is there any law that prevents them to use the information for personal financial, or other reasons that could be detrimental to the united states. >> the wild west stuff. >> stephanie: and how about we stop this austerity nonsense and invest in technology. >> what is really frightening is the for-profit prisons where

they have a financial incentive to round people up. i didn't do anything wrong -- >> stephanie: talking to you governor crypt keeper over there in arizona. [ evil laughter ] >> stephanie: josh hello. >> caller: i have a couple of points. i'm going to try to be real quick. the way this 25 year old ended up with that job my stepfather works for a fortune 500 company, where he is the head web guy. it is a billion billion company, and yet he is the one that has access to all of the data. that's a very common practice. your ceo makes the millions of dollars but your guy designing all of your programs and that is really almost an entry level position in a way. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: and with the snowden guy, i don't think he is a hero but i don't think he is a criminal either. i don't think he put out

information that put the americans in danger -- >> stephanie: well, we don't know that. a he did break the law, and b we don't know -- that's the problem. and again those all y'all that think he is a hero will you if you find out people get killed because of what he leaked? >> yeah, but some things don't deserve to be top secret. >> right. but that still doesn't make it not against the law. he broke the law. >> stephanie: as we were saying during the valley plains thing -- she was a desk jockey -- >> stephanie: she was an undercover cia agent. you blew the cover of all of the people in that operation, and we will likely never know. but it's a good guess somebody got killed. jim in california. hi jim. >> caller: hey, steph, i thought

bill maher made a good point, that [ inaudible ] nukes or assault weapons [ inaudible ] search and seizure laws they are talking about going into your home. and it is common knowledge is that if you put it on the internet, it's out there. it's common knowledge. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: and there is one other thing i just had to get in. richard diffuse in close and countering of the third kind i am crafting a mount rushmore of liberal talk radio, and i have stephanie, randy, you and rachel, who is the fourth? who can i put on there? >> tom hardman, ed schultz. >> stephanie: he wants a chick. oh, i see.

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>> stephanie: all right kids hour number three. jacki's health care corner coming up and charlie pierce at the bottom of the hour. jacki jim and i were just realizing why kids don't care about this because their conversations consist of stuff that no one can understand anyway. right? >> and i went like -- >> stephanie: and then he was all like whatever -- >> right. too many abbreviations. >> stephanie: i'm like lol, and he is like what? >> i want to go on the record by saying unless you are a 14 year old girl you should not use lol under any circumstances, especially if you are a man. just saying. >> oh, god.

>> not in any emails or texts -- >> i think i wrote an lol to you this morning. >> yeah, well you are forgiven for a lot of stuff. good morning everybody president obama just wrapped up a speech at the white house surrounded by people he said don't agree on much but can agree on the fact that we need immigration reform. >> obama: throughout our history, the promise we found in those who come from every corner of the globe has always been one of our greatest strengths. it's kept our work force vibrant and dynamic. it's kept our businesses on the cutting edge. it's help build the greatest economic engine that the world has ever known. >> he says our system hasn't kept pace with the changing times and now it is broken. and we have no way of dealing with the 11 million or so undocumented immigrants living

in the united states. and he says this bill is a compromise and goes along way towards fixing our system. he says this is the vehicle, and this is the time. oh, there is a fly. [ laughter ] >> president obama also adds that this bill is the biggest commitment to border security in our nation's history. sciu has launched a new seven-figure ad buy reinforcing the we all can agree message. >> it doesn't matter if you are republican or democrat. it matters that you are an american. >> this has to be fixed now. >> people need to have pathway to citizenship. >> there are five different ads in this bunch. we're back with more show after the break. stay with us. ♪ criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night?

is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage

commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.

♪ >> it's a beautiful day. ♪ don't let it get away ♪ >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome to it. six minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. i will likely be on cnn tonight as i am every night being a media ho. we were talk about guns and the santa monica rampage. different day, same story. yes, you have to look at both, but -- this guy could do have shot -- what was it, jim, 1300 rounds, and it wasn't some vigilantly -- it was the police

officers. thank god, still five people died but he literally had i believe over 1300 rounds. >> gee, what could we do to fix that? maybe make those illegal. >> stephanie: exactly. and it was an ar-15-type rifle. really? how many of these stories are you going to have? a young mentally ill guy -- >> who needs a hundred rounds or a thousand rounds to protect your home? >> stephanie: right. and just said -- [♪breaking news theme♪] >> stephanie: just today these two stories, shot and killed accidentally by his four year old son in arizona. authorities say a four year old boy shot and killed his father. the boy found the gun in the living and accidentally fired the gun and hit his father. new jersey cop arrested shooting

a man to death in a road rage. the officer may not have initiated the incident but i don't understand why he couldn't have driven away. if a officer can't act in a common rational way, what are the chances an untrained citizen will act correctly. >> help i have got a gun. >> stephanie: right. this george zimmerman case -- >> don't do that. i wish they would have said. >> stephanie: right. he thought he was being a helper. we don't need you to. oh, i'm going to do it anyway. i think as bill maher said it would have been a guy that lost a fight. anyway lots of stuff to get to. ♪ it's schechner again ♪

>> stephanie: good morning, jacki schechner. >> good morning. is that music okay for us to use? >> stephanie: yes, everything is fine. >> okay. good. >> unless rocky mountain mike yanks the copyright. in terms of health care stuff that's huge news the plan b stuff tell us about that -- for those who missed it. >> for those who missed it the obama administration was fighting against the judge's ruling that said that plan b the emergency contraceptive should not be able to everybody. the obama administration wanted a restriction on the age of girls who could get it over the counter without a prevention. and they decided to drop that. and if the manufacturer submits the application, the fda will immediately approve it. we're not talking about the

abortion pill. we're talking about the emergency contraceptive that you take within 72 hours of having unprotected sex, and that would stop the conception. >> stephanie: exactly. all right. i think that's very good news. i sent you some good news yesterday -- oh, no. oh, no, more good news about the affordable care act. [♪breaking news theme♪] >> stephanie: treatment of physical and mental health are coming together. kind of apropos in the light of all of these shooters. >> yes, we talk about extending mental health services. this is one way we're going to do it. >> stephanie: the l.a. times saying physicians and therapists traditionally haven't collaborated much, but the federal health care law is

spurring a change. >> yeah, the concept behind it, and this is really a larger theme of the affordable care act is coordinating care. that is something we don't do well in this country, and something we should be spending more time and energy on. and including records and getting information from one doctor to another easily and without any sort of hiccup so that we can -- you're not doing the same tests over and over again, you are not treating somebody with a medication they are allergic too that sort of thing. so the affordable care act is going to cover mental health and substance abuse treatments, or substance disorder treatments with the same -- to the same extent that they cover physical ailments. >> stephanie: yeah, which i think is huge. there is some great stuff in this article. obviously millions more people now coming in.

in many cases chronically ill patients. one of the parallels will be managing the mental health problems. newly insured people will have mental health complications. >> right. one of the biggest problems up until now, is the large group plans were covering some portion of your mental health services but individual plans didn't have that sort of coverage. so if you had somebody with a mental disorder it doesn't treated as easily a, because it wasn't covered. so people are less likely to seek treatment for things that aren't covered, and doctors are less willing to ask about, because it's something the patient ultimately can't afford and now they can better coordinate the care between the two. >> stephanie: one of the doctors

pointed out, that it is so linked -- physical and mental health. i have a friend now dealing with a pain problem, and pain causes depression, and it's a vicious circle. >> absolutely. there are physical manifestation of things like this. and if you are back going a physical -- let's say you don't know you have depression but you go to the doctor with a bunch of different symptoms and ultimately there's no physical evidence, and you back into the diagnosis of depression. it's a lot of times how they back into anxiety and panic disorders. so this way you can include those potential diagnoses early on, because there's not going to be the -- the cost-prohibitive -- >> stephanie: right.

and. >> -- stigmatizing barrier to get help. >> stephanie: that's right. and failing to diagnose and treatment problems early can lead to far worse problems later. >> of course. one of the reasons i became a huge advocate for health care reform, is i was in new york city after 9/11 and about a month later i found myself unable to breathe. long, long story short i ended up in the emergency room and it was an $8,500 hospital bill overnight, and three weeks later we figured out it was an anxiety attack. so you are now in debt overnight, and you find out it is some sort of anxiety panic thing you are dealing with, and

you have now racked up a bill that is a little overwhelming. so that's part of the reason i got into reform in the first place. >> could it have been exacerbated by the dust still in the air? >> it's possibly. for me this was an emotional anxiety element to living like a mile away from it -- >> that could do it? >> stephanie: she has it here when she goes too long without seeing me. >> i'm starting to shake a little. >> stephanie: who is my little panicky koala? you are. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: traditionally primary care doctors and health care doctors have failed to work together, officials are confronting the financial and

health consequences. so doctors are now sharing more information with each other about their patients. and new insurance plans require depression screenings. >> depressioning screening, oh man. >> how depressing. >> stephanie: oh, year up jim. >> i'm depressed about depression screening. >> yeah it would be nice in this country to be able to do the medical tests we need to rule out more expensive procedures down the line. >> stephanie: let's end on a girl note about edward snowden. is this not the worst way to break up with a girl ever? really? >> yes this contributes to my

opinion about him. there is something really disconnected here. >> stephanie: and she's hot. >> yeah he's not so hot. >> stephanie: yeah, right? >> the best tweet i saw yesterday is from -- my friend jesse who put out can we all just agree he needs to get that mole checked. [ laughter ] >> oh, my god. >> stephanie: he can afford health care, yikes. that's almost big enough to be a hump. and i think someone can help him with that hump. [ overlapping speakers ] >> cover that screening. >> stephanie: exactly. thank you jacki schechner, love you! >> love you guys too. [ applause ] >> there will be no mole in our organization. >> stephanie: there is definitely a mole in his whole organization. i think we can all agree that is he is a little -- bag much like

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dumber from texas than low which gohmert. [♪breaking news theme♪] >> stephanie: he said it is cool to murder prostitutes for not having sex with you. did you hear this story? >> he asked for his money back. >> stephanie: he did. and she wouldn't give it to her. he initially paralyzed her, the jury acquitted him, why? because she claims he shot her in activities that are banned. he was trying to retrieve stolen property. the $150 he paid her. gilbert testified earlier he found her escort on craigslist and believe sex was included in her $150 fee. the law allows citizens to shoot

to stop theft. the jury said death is a-oak with them. oh doggy texas. wow. we'll talk to charlie pierce in a minute. but he sums it up perfectly in the george zimmerman case they said we don't need you to do that. trayvon's father. >> as we seek justice for our son, trayvon, and we also seek a fair and impartial trial. >> stephanie: and he was saying -- this wouldn't have hand except for the outcry. i guess that would have been

okay too. george's brother yesterday. >> as a family we're very confident in the outcome of the state and the state won't be able to meet its burden. >> stephanie: okay. tim -- tim in california. hello, tim? hi, tim? >> hello? >> stephanie: hum. all right. jill in ithaca. hi, jill. >> caller: hey, stephanie and the mooks. yeah, so that was texas where they said the raping was okay -- >> stephanie: yes. >> actually killing the prostitute for not rendering services. >> yeah, i think it's time for them to secede. they can leave austin with us, but the rest can go. >> stephanie: we'll air lift austin out. >> caller: i really called because of edward snowden.

i'm not ready to judge him yet. i'm like -- i support whistleblowers, i did go to maryland to fort meade to support bradley manning. it's difficult to shoot the messenger. and i think mr. boehner should shut his weepy booze-craving mouth by calling this guy a traitor. >> stephanie: yeah, we said that earlier. we don't know yet. the "daily beast" saying maybe we should hold off on defying or whatever -- but i still say i don't get where -- i don't get where the crime is. it's like we can disagree or agree about the patriot act, but what -- what sort of -- what did he reveal that we didn't know exactly? maybe the scope of it? but the important thing, hillary clinton has officially joined

twitter. her first tweet was thanking the creators of the text from hilary. her initial tweet said i'll take it from here. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: her biography section includes also glass ceiling cracker, and ends with tbd. [♪ dramatic music ♪] >> stephanie: oh to be determined. a teasesy little minks. bill clinton welcomed his wife to twitter, and said does twitter have a family share plan. and then chelsea clinton retweeted her mom's first tweet and said welcome mom. [♪breaking news theme♪] >> stephanie: we were talk about edward snowden's pole-dancing girlfriend. she is like hot brie -- but the

important thing is john in san francisco smells opportunity. hot brie in hawaii. i smell an opportunity not to be missed for you to direct the tv movie poety in motion for jim. or pussy riot two for hbo. >> can you say that word on the air? >> stephanie: it's a band. >> i know. >> stephanie: twenty-nine -- >> kitty cat uprising. >> stephanie: all right. twenty-nine minutes after the hour. back with charlie pierce next on the "stephanie miller show." heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it.

in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me.

>>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. ♪

>> announcer: stephanie miller. >> i hope i look half as good as you when i give up. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: i have. i'm all dead inside man. thirty-four minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. this case we just talked about the jury in texas unbelievable. the jury acquitted a guy of shooting a prostitute because she wouldn't have sex for him. gawker writes your only legal recourse should be not to use her services again. first of all it is inlegal in texas. you are basically seeing the same problem with stand your ground laws and other laws, that turns shooting cases into situation where the jury rules

in favor of the person with the higher social status. there is only one man in america now that understands -- ♪ pierce ♪ >> stephanie: charlie pierce political columnist for esquire.com. >> stephanie: good morning charlie pierce. >> has anyone considered the possible that the man who shot the prostitute in texas couldn't stand your ground as they say. [♪ circus music ♪] >> stephanie: right out of the gate. i am have been quoting you all morning, as i love to do. but you summed up this whole zimmerman case perfectly. seven words, we don't need you to do that that sums up the case. after investigating martin for

the crime of carrying snack food in a neighborhood where zimmerman thought martin did not belong. >> i'm getting comments saying that people who answer the phone aren't real cops. no, but they work for the police company. they are like the wal-mart greeters of the police company. when you call your police department, that's who you get. and they speak for the police department, and the police department, the trained law enforcement professionals are telling you not to do this. >> i just wish he would have phrased it a little more strongly. don't do that. >> don't do that you gun-toting moron. >> stephanie: you fake cop. he kid it anyway and a teenager wound up dead and in case you

have forgotten, this case wouldn't have gone anywhere unless the country got so upset about it. and didn't you love the jury selection yesterday, they were asking what sort of media you know who you mean al sharpton. right? they were asking how much coverage -- >> yeah, have you -- have you -- are you now or have you ever been an msnbc viewer? >> stephanie: have you every leaned forward. >> if al sharpton leans forward would his hair move? >> stephanie: who can say. >> i don't mind the hair so much, but i miss the track suits. >> stephanie: me too. you write the snowden effect a

serious gains of heros and villains has broken out. what are your thoughts? greenwald said there's going to be more -- we don't really know yet. >> look, i think the guy is brave. i think knowing what your government is up so is always better than not knowing what your government is up to. i have no idea why he is in hong kong. please don't tell me because they have a robust tradition of freedom of expression because they don't. but i forget who it was that said the crime is not what is illegal, it's what is legal. this happens to be barack obama who is president when these revelations are made, which is inconvenient for him, but tough. this is what the executive branch has been up to since we all got scared in 2001 and 2002.

if you don't like it vote for politicians that will stop it. >> stephanie: that's exactly right. >> get behind mark udoll. to me in fahrenheit 451 the best scene was jim mcdermott saying we passed this thing and nobody read it. >> stephanie: i said that yesterday. yes, you were told you didn't bother going to the briefing and you didn't read it. you talk about -- i'm in there -- i'm in the vast muddled middle as you write, some of whom have never seen what the big fuss is about. there was a pugh poll out today saying that 65% of the american

people don't care. >> but they should care. if this gets turned into another ornament to hang on the christmas with benghazi and the irs, and the ap and james rosen, and that's all this becomes, then we have done ourselves a disservice and edward snowden wasted his time. >> stephanie: exactly. you say this is the stuff of bad air part spy fiction. the most likely outcome, china decides to extradite him, because it has higher priorities in dealing with the u.s. which may be the funniest line to emerge from this whole saga but there are issues beyond edward snowden, and whatever comes next, these issues should be examined in the light of day. that goes to your point about time to reexamine what happened after 9/11. >> yes, and in the light of the

knowledge that it will happen again. and that the reaction the next time has to be different. and if we're not willing to admit that yourselves we're all the wasting our time. >> stephanie: you say the patriot act -- >> it renews it and renews it and renews it and three or four people yell about it and i think mark udoll is the only one that yelling about it. you have better ways to do this than a class action lawsuit. >> stephanie: right. you say this whole thing comes down to obama is better than bush, then the opportunity goes a glimmering. and the real test comes after the next terrorist attack that succeeds. we know what our friends on the

right will see. so if you are tele-president seeing the intelligence that he is seeing, what do you do right? >> i think you do more of what he is doing. i think you do not rely on, we saved you from terrorist attacks we're not going to tell you about. you can no longer say trust us. there are 20,000 people who work for the nsa, i guarantee you somebody in there is abusing the information, and it's time to get a handle on the intelligence community. >> stephanie: but as you say it's all of us you say fear is the new normal which is -- i think when the president says we can't have 100% security and 100% privacy, i think you are right. the american people because fear is the new normal, that's why you are seeing polls like this, right? >> i think so, but i think

that's a dodge too. that's what all presidents said. if george bush said that we would laugh in his face. what we're asking is please tell us what is being done in my name? >> stephanie: yeah, you are right. >> please tell us who you are blowing up, who are you listening in on what is being done with our money and in our name, and don't make us rely on edward snow den to do that. >> stephanie: your last post was great, civil liberties are not something you trade. not least because they don't all belong to you. they belong to me too and the woman at the next table here at the starbucks -- excuse me -- anyway and you were saying the nsa -- [overlapping speakers] >> stephanie: you didn't need to tell them what starbucks you were at. they knew. >> yeah. >> stephanie: therefore we all surrender our civil liberties,

we don't trade them because we don't get anything back. we're committing ourselves to be less free. he did it with drugs when he got frightened shadows on the wall, and then we did it with terrorists. we have decided to be a less free people. we should own that. really a great point. but that goes back to my original point i don't know where the criminal wrongdoing is here? >> yeah, i don't know -- who's criminal wrongdoing are you talking about? >> stephanie: right. >> i don't think the government has committed a crime, but i think the government has also not been straight with us about what it was doing in our name. and these revelations give us a better idea of what is being done in our name.

let's all assume it was being done. we didn't know the magnitude, scope, or parameters and now we do. and that's important. >> stephanie: and al franken said if the american people know, guess what the bad guys too. >> that's the way it goes al, the bad guys get cnn. should we shut them down? >> stephanie: well, no because i'm on there every day. >> are you on there? >> stephanie: yes, 7:00 p.m. >> when i say having you on the air, i mean having you on her show. >> stephanie: yes, of course. >> with cnn's ratings who can say? >> stop it! >> there -- there was a great tweet today from [ inaudible ]. did you see it? >> stephanie: no. >> he tweeted about 7:41 this morning, do you get the feeling

that god is no longer watching over america? and i said after the events of this week the idea that, you know, another -- another completely unaccountable superpower energy isn't watching over america is sort of okay by me. >> stephanie: the less people watching the better. all right. charlie pierce great stuff as always. see you next week. >> talk to you next week. >> stephanie: bye-bye, honey. forty-six minutes after the hour. right back with the remaining moments of the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: i got her number off of the men's room stall. 1-800-steph-1-2. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more

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and aaron nevel -- oh it's not playing. >> he sounds like heeee -- it sounds like you are trying to change the station and you are getting different stations. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: okay. [ applause ] >> stephanie: yeah i need my mole back. >> isn't he dead? aaron nevel? >> stephanie: oh, dear. then he doesn't need his mole back. >> there is a mole in our organization. >> stephanie: vara in california, you are on the "stephanie miller show." hi vera. >> caller: hi, stephanie. i just want to make a couple of points. you keep asking the question where is the crime? >> stephanie: right. >> caller: well, here is the thing, if he reveals the crime, it is going to be even worse for him, wouldn't it?

we still don't know all of the information. what i really would prefer to hear. i am a big fan of your show. i have been to sexy liberal. and i'm a big fan of president obama. i'm so glad you had charlie pierce on because i wish people would start asking more questions -- >> stephanie: i think we are but that's what we were saying is we don't have enough information -- >> caller: you are calling him a -- bag. >> stephanie: i think he is a douche for what he did to his girlfriend. >> caller: you are calling him a criminal. >> stephanie: well, we broke the law. >> caller: you don't know that. >> he stole stop-secret information. >> caller: there is a huge difference. >> stephanie: all right. paul in michigan with the counterpoint. >> caller: hey, great show you guys. i think they should let bradley manning out of jail and give his cell to this guy.

because they exposed actual government crimes -- >> exactly. >> stephanie: this is what i keep saying where is the crime he has exposed here? we know about this program, so that's what i don't get. >> what do you mean we. >> stephanie: well okay. like charlie said through our elected representatives. by the way esmerelda was the mother, chris. >> i'm trying to remember what she looked like. [overlapping speakers] >> stephanie: i fell down the witch hole. >> and you emphatically corrected me with that piece of false information. >> stephanie: you never feel more certain than when you are completely something -- >> exactly. >> stephanie: you never get more

indignant. you incompetent oaf! wow, some creepy stuff out of russia. >> they are saying in the chat room esmerelda was the evil twin. >> stephanie: that's right. russia's parliament will have a controversial law that just mentioning the gays to the kids for instance, can be illegal. people can be fined -- foreigners can be arrested and immediately deported. that probably covers lady gaga and her blah blah blah. >> la la, blah blah blah blah. >> stephanie: the law defines the concept as spreading information aimed at forming non-traditional sexual behavior

to children, suggesting it is attractive, and making false statements about the socially equal nature -- already there have been doubts on how to define propaganda saying that elton john's stage outfits could be considered propaganda. >> what about what's his name? >> who? >> the president's -- >> oh putin. >> yeah looked up this little boy's shirt and kissed his belly. that kind of creeped me out a bit. >> stephanie: weird. [♪breaking news theme♪] >> stephanie: poll shows california in favor of legalizing same-sex marriage change is across the board. the biggest shift is among seniors.

nearly 60% of california voters now believe same-sex marriage should be legal. the new poll has found attitudes have changed significantly since prop 8. 58% believe same-sex marriage should be legal. we'll give you more of the details. even crotchedy old folks have come along. all right. that's it for us i would like to thank chris lavoie -- something. >> for screwing up the theme song. >> jim ward, and t-bone. see you tomorrow on the "stephanie miller show." ♪

>> i'm jacki schechner. it's noon eastern, and here's what's current. president obama is urging the senate to move ahead with comprehensive immigration reform. he wants them to open debate. in that vote on the motion to proceed happens about two hours from now. this morning the president emphasized this bill is our best shot. >> obama: this bill isn't perfect, it's a compromise, and going forward, nobody is going to get everything that they want. not democrats, not republicans, not me. >> now to help shore up public support, fdiu has launched a new seven-figure national ad by reinforcing the message. >> you didn't deport 11