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>> michael: what a day. you know it's getting weird in vladimir putin lectures america about privacy and weirder yet when people listen, but weirder than that when a virginia senator delivers a spanish-language speech often the floor. "the war room" starts now. let's get weird. >> michael: no one is surprised by discord in washington these days but what is surprising is how the battle lines are being drawn on the latest issue the nsa surveillance program. let's get up-to-date on the controversial itself.
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the justice department is getting ready to file charges against edward snowden who leaked top secret information to "the guardian." vladimir putin even lectured barack obama saying you can't just listen to the phone call in russia. you need a special court order. this is how this should be done in this civilized world. it's interesting to note that putin said it was legal to wiretap his political opponents. and while barack obama may not be making homes abroad, he has unlikely allies like john boehner who endorsed the nsa program and called snowden a traitor. lindsey graham, john mccain and mitch number come, al
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franken of minnesota and harry reid, they all defended the nsa. on the other side are tea party senators like rand paul and mike lee as well as you paul ryan. they join socialist bernie sanders of vermont along with the aclu, and divisions on the right are exacerbating the old guard and the new. john mccain represents the oldest of the old guard. he lashed out at rand paul in response to a question from cnn candy controlly krolly. >> senator rand called this an assault on the constitution. >> can i just say with the democrat-republican chairs and the majority members of the
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committee have been very well briefed on these programs. we passed the patriot act and provisions to be enacted and in operation. if members of congress did not know what they were voting on, then i think that's their responsibility a lot more than it is the government's. >> michael: on the democratic side, senators ron widen of oregon and mark udall of colorado are he defending it's defenders like feinstein and reid. no "n" response to widen's questioning of the nsa program. >> what i wanted to see is if you could give me a yes or no answer to the question. does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not?
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>> not wittingly. there are case where is they could inadvertently perhaps collect, but not wittingly. >> michael: this seems pretty witting to me, but today they called for more public hearings to investigate the issue and fellow democrat and senate majority whip dick durbin called it ill-fated and said it didn't have much chance of passing. we have mike papantonio, a host of ring of fire and a regular guest here on "the war room." mike, welcome back. >> how are you? >> michael: i'm well. there is so much to talk about. this issue should reflect poorly on the president but could it hurt republicans who are falling
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along the line here. >> when you have the wall street editorial page supporting the president, what they understand is there is going to be another republican president, it's just a matter of when. when that republican president steps into office they want to make sure that he has the most expansive powers. you have progressive who is never changed their position on this. they were critical of bush. they're critical of obama. they've come to the high ground on that as we heard with widen. they're just looking to the future. you have republicans very concerned about the idea of 'em empowering on all of us completely unfettered. >> it's not as if they're it's the belief system that they join, but it's later.
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let's go to paul ryan. >> not only does it come across as fairly creepy. it's not the term to use but i understand that fisa orders to go after some person, but to do a blanket "dragnet" nationwide, that goes beyond the scope of the law that i know as the patriot act. >> michael: that goes beyond what you're talking about. i like how he said, the law that i'm familiar with that we call the patriot act. is that creepy? >> if you really take a look at 215 of the patriot act, it's not illegal, and they knew that as they were signing it into law. the drafter of the patriot act is now saying we might have gone too far and we need to revisit that. but i can assure you when you hear the critics go after this president, at least on the progressive side, they're consistent and they're aware of
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how dangerous this is. they remember the church hearings where in 1972 he showed us what unfettered response by the fbi the nsa, the c.i.a. to do where they targeted journalists, they targeted feminists and environmentalists. they targeted everybody simply because there were no breaks on the system. now come to today the system is even worse. not only are there no breaks, but they have been further empowered to reach out as far as they want. so the progressives that are coming out against this president are doing it because they understand this has the potential of spinning out of control with the next republican president. >> michael: right, you know, i want to ask you about that. if you look at this spinning out of control isn't it already out of control? what would spinning further out of control be? >> i think spinning further out of control is we don't do anything about it. we have 60% of the american public michael who simply say
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it's okay. it's almost like they've never taken a civics class. it's like the american public has become so damn stupid they believe we can't preserve the constitution and protect ourselves at the same time. this fear has been ginned up all the way back to dick cheney and bush and the american public is so terrified that they're willing to give up. it spins out of control and they say there has to be immediate response. that's when it really spins out of control, and i think it has the potential to do that. >> michael: when you paint it that way, it certainly seems like there is the potential here. something has to be done. when you're saying that the architect of the patriotic act is rethinking it, that's a good sign. could it be a victory? this is looking at it in a holistic way that we're seeing disagreement that does not fall along partisan lines? is there something good in that?
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>> i think it's very good. as you pointed out michael it's not because--it's not because these people are responding to ideology. you don't have jonah goldberg that's is doing anything from an ideology standpoint that agrees with obama. he's simply getting ready for the future. but the point is, the public discussion of course becomes extremely important. we're hearing stories about the office question. the nsa. we're empowering the nsa with all these things. these are the same people who got it wrong on iraq, all these people who are spying on us. we have corporate america not the government, oh who is in the spook business. what do they do with that information beyond there. the james clapper story, he ignored it when he lied, when he
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committed perjury, but now that story comes to the forefront and we start paying attention to what is important. we pay attention to the way the media has been manipulated completely. "new york times," can you imagine, "the new york times" in almost attacking snowden because he didn't leak it to them. he leaked it to the guardian. it wasn't a controlled leak by the government as we see so often. when obama wants to look good, who does he go to? he goes to the wall street journal, "the new york times"." he leaks stories about his marvelous response on getting bin laden. the controlled leak is what they're mad about. snowden did not play by the game and manning didn't play by the game, and wikileaks did not play by the game. the discussion needs to be long, and we need to take a serious look at all the parts of it.
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>> mike, papantonio, you illustrateed all the things that are involve in this story. it's not just about some rogue contractor who spoke to a reporter at the guardian. this goes far deeper, from clapper on down there are a ton of stories, and i'm glad we had you here. mike papantonio, thank you for coming on "the war room." marco rubio and tim kaine don't seem to be speaking the same lang. we translate the politics of both senators coming up. it's the night before obama's national security meeting and all through the house jeannine zikaria is did ing. she steps in "the war room" and tell us what to expect under the key. and american children being held in involuntary confinety.
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anything. what the hell were they thinking? [ speaking in spanish ] >> michael: what you just heard was tim kaine doing something very rare, delivering an entire speech on the senate floor in spanish. his speech came the day the senate had it's first vote on immigration reform. whether or not to even bring the topic to debate. that vote passed 82-15 avoiding a messy filibuster. but today was just the first of
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many hurdles. now the bill will be debated and to the fear of many watered down declawed and dragged to the right by inflexible republicans. a wary senate majority leader harry reid warned us of what's to come. >> be very very careful of senators who have no intention of voting for this bill, zero, but they have a wonderful amendment to offer to improve the bill, understanding, as i do, they have no intention of voting for the bill no matter what happens on amendments. >> michael: whom who could he be speaking of, texas senator cornyn? he would required 100% of the people contracting the border be surveil and apprehend 90% of the crossers and he said if those amendments are not made he would not vote for the bill.
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>> i think immigration reform is probably at the top of that list. >> sign into law? >> i think by the end of the year we could have a bill. >> one that passes the house passes the senate, signed by the president. >> yeah, no question. >> speaker, good luck. >> thank you i'll need it . >> michael: yes, you will, mr. speaker. we all will. here to talk immigration and everything else from the political front is david sirota. david joins us from denver, colorado, great to have you on the show as always. >> thanks for having me. >> michael: marco rubio introduced an amendment requiring immigrants speak english. >> whatever happens is going to happen on this issue god has planned to me. my job is to be obedient and have faith in that regard. >> michael: so it looks like rubio is hanging the bill's fate
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on god rather than the senate. all kidding aside is rubio doing what he can to get support for the reform? >> you take him at his word, and the idea that he really does want immigration reform. think about the republican conference he has got to deal with. he has got to deal with the republican conference in the house and in the senate, a smaller group who understands that the republican party has problems with latinos in general and demonizing people of color demonizing latinos and the idea of diversity. if i take him at his word that he wants immigration reform, i look at ways he thinks he can pull some republican votes from that part of the conference that
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has based its political capital on demonizing people. that amendment about english speaking which i find oweddous but marco rubio, if he wants immigration reform, maybe that's a way for members of the hardcore right to come with him to vote for immigration reform. >> michael: i don't take the guy at his word. i'm confused by marco rubio. i see him playing against ted cruz and jeb bush, perhaps so i don't see him playing the senate here, i find him a confusing politician, but he's pretty important for the moment on this issue. all eyes will move from the senate to the house, what do you think will happen to the immigration bill in the house david? >> again, the obvious problem is for proponents of real reform that the republican conference and it's a bigger problem arguably in the house and senate
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because the house you can essentially stop anything. you don't even need a filibuster. you just don't bring the bill up for a vote. the hardcore base of the house is against this. against any kind of pathway to citizenship. it has made its life on bashing people of color and bashing latinos, and so they have the political interest of stopping anything. but we do have a chance, and we've seen it before, where john boehner allows a bill to come to the floor where it passes with the majority of democrats voting for it, and the minority the republicans to vote for it. in the hasture rule it would not allow a bill to come to the floor without the majority of the majority party voting for it. >> michael: do you think he's just so frustrated? i can't imagine john boehner breaking the hasture rule.
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he has never obeyed that as speaker. do you think he's so frustrated with his caucus at this point that he's going it alone. >> i'm sure he's frustrateed with his caucus, but look at the power players on this. there are major corporate forces, major amounts of money that want immigration reform in a certain way that creates a potentially exploitable pool of workers, as exploitable as possible. that's why those proposals for guessworking programs that would create a second class of citizens, that's why the corporations want it so bad. that means that they wouldn't have all the rights in the workplace. to bring it back to john boehner, john boehner is caught in a sways where he has some big money corporate forces that he's used to appeasing who want a certain kind of immigration reform. he's trying to go up against an
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ideology zenophobic on what have of those corporate forces. >> michael: i am going to apologize to you thinking that john boehner might have had good intentions even for a moment. let's move to the nsa leak. president obama has been making the rounds. let's take a listen. >> i would provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools that they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our constitution and our freedom. that means no more illegal wiretapping of american citizens. that's not who we are. that's not what is necessary to defeat the terrorists. >> and what i can say in evaluating these programs, they make a difference in our capacity to anticipate and prevent possible terrorist activity. >> michael: well, it's a little unfair to compare them because in the first video he was
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actually 11 years old, but the difference in tone as we watched is remarkable. we see a strong candidate obama versus a deflated president. does this clip speak more to the difficulty of being in the white house than it does anything else? >> i don't necessarily think so. look, i think what happens is a guy runs for office. he was a senator. he was privy to series of information about civil liberties and the nsa so he was not some uninformed guy. i think he ran on those principles, and i think it's a deliberate bait-and-switch. once he became president like most presidents, he doesn't want to give up power. the office itself creates an environment where the president wants as much power as is possible to achieve. as president he hasn't just kept in place toes bush policies that he was rallying on. he has radically expanded them.
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we have a huge data center being built in utah. we're talking about a huge unprecedented surveillance state that he has helped not only to preserve but to construct. what those clips shows is the most cynical kind of politics where he was elected on a promise, got into power and then once in power wanted more power for himself and that office. >> michael: yeah, i wish we had more time to debate this. i see what you're saying. i don't agree with it, not even being an obama apologist but a presidential apologist the burdens of the office and the responsibility you don't realize as a senator. let's visit this debate as another time because you make great points about it, and i think it's a fascinating conversation. i appreciate what you had to say about it. david sirota, great as always, from denver, colorado. up next inside "the war room" we tried to catch a good glimpse of
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hezbollah took over the town kusar. death toll is at 95,000 and reports of chemical weapons being used on people has been confirmed. president obama said the use of chemical weapons in war was the red line that would bring serious consequences from the united states. the united states is divided on whether and how to interconvenient. there seem to be two options on the table. one is to enforce a no-fly zone over syria the other is armying the rebels which seems the most likely choice. there is a third option that the administration is not considering, white house spokesman jay carney spoke about that option this morning. take a listen to him. >> one exception while all options remain on the table the president does not see a circumstances where we would have american boots on the ground in syria. >> michael: to complicate
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administration even makes a decision to arm them. he met with iran president vladimir putin and he hopes to go to the g eight and win an agreement with putin because there has been tension there, and that is a major problem in resolveing this crisis. >> michael: this has been a hallmark in the difficulties from the beginning the national security council when they were voting against intervention here. let's go over options that i've outlined providing arms to the rebels or installing no-fly zones. >> i think what they're looking at those to in tandem. those are the quote/unquote military option. you're right there, are no
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option for u.s. troops. the third option is a diplomatic option, and senator secretary kerry has been working very hard to bring all the parties to the table. frankly right now washington is completely divided. president obama is getting two completely different sets of advice. one, work for solution. it will only escalate. or this is crazy there are 95,000 dead, and we're risking a regional war and we need to do something. that's why he has been reluctant to make a choice because the choices are so difficult. >> michael: who would be at this peace conference, that would make certainly me happy, but what would make most people happy. who would be at the peace conference like than. theyou would have assad's
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government there who else would be there. >> the dream would be russia turkey, the west, the u.s. and then you have representatives of the regime if they could make a decision. the international community, the west doesn't even have an agreement on that key point. the main player that really needs to be there which i don't think the the united states can agree on is iran. what you're see something a proxy war between the united states, the west, the west together and iran which is now backing syria and hezbollah. and i think there is reluctant having iran there but without them i don't see this getting resolved diplomatically. >> michael: that is obviously a big problem there. the civil war has been going on for two years. why now? why are they deciding now? has there been a breaking point that the u.s. is deciding to step in now in some way shape
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or form? >> well, as i mentioned this victory in a rebel stronghold, and they're watching assad take any more military action some of the other rebel strongholds, the death count, the use of chemical weapons confirmed the g-8 coming up. >> michael: it's all that, what you mentioned. that's the realtiming here. i want to switch to turkey. earlier today riot police moved in while prime minister erdogan continue to dismiss the unrest. if he doesn't take this serious could this turn into another civil war in that area? >> i'm not sure. i watched the video today. i could not believe it. i'd. there, reported from both areas and it's the intercontinental hospital is in the background. erdogan is still very popular among the masses, but there has been this contingent in the last
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few years who have been very upset with he's increasingly authoritarian rule and people have gotten fed up. i don't think the turkish military is extremely strong and will let it go that you direction, but i hate to predict. but i believe this is not going to go in that direction. >> michael: right, there is a difference and this is something that you know better than i jeannine, but a different between istanbul and the rest of turkey. what you're seeing in istanbul is not necessarily reflective of the rest of the country. >> istanbul is more secular and metropolitan. dissidents becoming more authoritarian and it was quite striking that they turned the water canon and tear gas on the
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protesters. but that's what going on the border with syria. >> michael: with the refugees coming in. let's go back to the president. he just added rice and powers to his team. she said, i swore to myself if i ever face such a crisis again i would come down on the side of dramatic action, going down in flames if that was required. how will the rice-powers addition to the administration change u.s. involvement in your estimation? >> look, susan rice has been a major adviser to the property president over the past two years and they still have yet to take any demonstrative action. powers is an expert on genocide, and we have 95,000 dead, there will be key voices there but the president is hearing voices well urging caution. he has worked so hard to pull
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the united states out of iraq, afghanistan, and those situations are very unstable and deadly, i don't think he has an appetite for deepen gaugement in syria. if we see something did they say something about going down in flames? we'll see. >> michael: i think the audience understands this a whole lot better. janine. thank you for coming on the show. coming up on the show, imagine solitary confinement. the man in this video drops by to take us to the hidden world of children in solitary confinement. we'll be right back. question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.
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you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> michael: the hole the ice box, the lockdown. that's what prisoners in america called solitary confinement. a punishment in which an individual is cut off from human contact up to 4 hours 24 hours at
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a time. it's associated with high rates of suicide and it's especially pronounced in young people. the aclu has launch a campaign to call on eric holder to prevent the use of solitary confinement. there needs to be much greater attention of what is happening in our juvenile detentions across our country. richard ross, professor of photographer at the university ofuniversityuniversityof california santa barbara. he documented 200 detention and the name of the book" juvenile in justice." welcome to "the war room"," richard.
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>> thanks for having me. >> michael: why is solitary confinement becoming more widespread now? >> it's--you mentioned it as punishment and in some cases it's used as a default where a detention administrator or commitment administrator will put a kid in solitary just to isolate them from the population as they assess that they're neither predator or prey for the rest of the population. sometimes they go in for hours and sometimes for days. >> michael: who signs off on that? is that the prison system? the wardens? how does that happen? >> well, you described it as a federal issue but frequently with juveniles it's state. so each state each county has its own policies. and in some cases they're not even sure why they're doing it. they default to a procedure like in santa barbara where i'm from,
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if a kid does something wrong and acts out in the rec yard, the kid would say to the corrections officers, i guess i have to do my 72. the kids has to go in isolation in 72. in some sense and in evidence-based practices it's not a good outcome for kids to isolate them for that period of time but they do it. when in fact they may be thinking we need to reduce this significantly to a period of danger when the kid could be a danger to themselves or others or eliminate completely. >> michael: riched, i think many of us find this shocking across the board. what shocked you most about about these juvenile detention facilities. >> the brutality of it, interviewing all these kids, really learning that these kids are primarily victims. they were all willing to tell me their stories.
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i would sit on the floor and talk to them for hours and take notes. i would try to give them some measure of dignity and respect by knocking on the door of their cell and asking if i could talk to them. and i would have to get the prison and detention administration to buy in also and realize that i was not a danger to the kids nor to the administrationish in some sense. but i just wanted to learn more and get a big snapshot of who these kids were. so in doing that i found that in most cases these kids were the victims of pretty difficult up brings. many--the great majority are in there for non-violent crimes. >> michael: that's what i was going to ask what kind of crimes. i would imagine unfortunately that many are there for things that are non-violent. that's a problem across the board. again, in prisons. you took a time lapse video of yourself spending 24 hours in
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isolation to experience what it's like for the youth you were photographing. what did you go through? >> i checked into a facility with an aimible director who has to rename nameless, and i set up a camera, and i went through exactly where the kid would be if i was given an uniform, the underwear was three sizes too big made in pakistan. the uniform was two sizes too big made in el salvador and was very uncomfortable. i did what the kids had to do, and i'm an adult, i had time to reflect and know what i was doing. a kid won't know how long they're going to be in there. in some cases they're not convicted of things but put in
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detention and held in a cell the night that they could have been put in their own bed. they're put in these spaces that are pretty brutal. >> michael: yes, you teamed with the annie casey foundation organization that supports disadvantaged children in the united states. they came out with a report that said juvenile incarceration exposes kids to more abuse and violence. >> you don't get good outcomes with kids in these facilities. the longer they're in, the more damaged they become. at some point you have to really ask yourself if you're getting your morality's worth your education's worth it never stands up against scrutiny. i've been working with this
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organization and i felt they didn't have the images of the lives that are in the balance and i felt like i could do something by giving them this vision that i have, and this ability that i had to photograph some of these kids in these situations. that's how the project was born. >> michael: before i let you go, i don't know if it's possible to answer it quickly i just want to know is there any benefit, is there anything good that comes from the juvenile detention facilities? >> no. i hate to be so brief. >> michael: listen, that is asked and answered. you spent enough time around it. thank you, richard ross, thank you for this work. we linked richard's work on our website at www.currenttv.com/youngturkscurrent.com.this is "the war room," stick around.
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address. >> if an american, because his skin is dark, cannot eat lunch in a restaurant opened to the public if he can cannot send his children to the best public school available if he cannot vote for the public officials who represent him if in short he cannot enjoy the full and free life which all of us want, then who among us would be content if the color of his skin changed and would stand in his place. >> michael: beautifully spoken 50 years ago and it's a good reminder that 50 years later the march still goes on. now we move to check in with cenk uygur and see what is on tap with "the young turks." >> cenk: we go to turkey and the outrageous actions of the turkish government and why they're so outrageous and why people are so angry in turkey. then we'll go back to snowden. did you know that 70%--well i
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gave it away there. turns out--all right 70% of the people who work on national security are private contractors. so good news/bad news. the bad news we've outsourced that, but the good news, could many people who could leak. >> michael: and dinner is not complete without dessert and this show is not complete without brett erlich. they bring a sense of sweet closure but both most definitely not good for you. brett joins me from our l.a. studios live, how are you. >> i'm doing well, you look fantastic. >> michael: you do, the sweater over the shirt is a look that works for you. >> good, that's the only sweater i own. >> michael: it's the only sweater i see. we've been talking about these n
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nsa leaks, what is your take. >> i would be okay with the leaks if the nsa listened to my phone calls if they promised to chime in and help me out every now and then. i hang up with my girlfriend, and they'll be like, hey it's me phil, from the nsa she's cheating on you. that would be great. >> michael: it would be good. you know they can do it, they're listening. >> his name is ralph and he's better for her than you are. i would love that information and then i could let go. >> michael: and you could move on. >> yes. >> michael: the nsa could help brett erlich move on. they should be doing that. you're in hollywood. it's obama's piggy bank there. how are they respond together nsa. >> it's funny you ask that. i have a lot of prowess in the investigative field but there is another group who has investigated the number one go-to in hollywood. it's fox and friends and here's who they asked to find out how
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hollywood is feeling about it. >> edward snowden a patriot or a traitor. >> how does "the incredible hulk" see it? or how does lou see it? actor lou ferrigno. how are you. >> just fine. what do you make of eric snowden. >> first of all he must enjoy good chinese food. >> michael: how did they get him? the first thing when we were in "the war room," we want to get a good guest on the nsa producers, can we get lou ferrigno no? how did they get him? >> i don't know how they got him. i like how they have a high bar for who they ask to be an expert, and they ask him such hard-hitting questions like lou, do you follow the news? also another part of it is, you know, if the nsa tried to
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monitor lou ferrigno's phone calls, i don't know if they could even understand what he was saying if they were listening to him. >> michael: it's a little problematic. brett, do you have any other tweets of note that we should look at before we let you go tonight? >> there are people tweeting b.j. novak chimed in. he said the government has been watching us online? cried the generation that posts absolutely everything online. my pastor is patrick stewart. this is amazing. he's on vacation. he does a photo of himself in a stockade. he said, i never should have switched to verizon. >> michael: of lovei love it. it worked so well, we should consider doing this more in person. someone is always in our war room here. check us out online at current.com, that's where you can link up to our twitter and facebook pages.
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alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of
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his ability, is trying to look out for us. >> cenk: all right, welcome to "the young turks." we have a lot of stories for you. obviously we have a lot more on edward snowden the leaker. we'll spend a good deal of time talking about that. the federal reserve, we'll dig in and find out what the hell they're about. do you really know what they're about? you're going to find out on today's program. that's a little bit later. now, we start with turkey. turkey, there are significant clashes with police and protestors. teargas canisters fired. and water cannons and on the other hand, we've got fireworks and metal banging from the
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