republican candidate. she's a woman harvard law school, she's a minority. she call her a streetwalker. i'll tell you all about it on theyoungturks.com. >> john: good evening, friends. this is "viewpoint." tonight, mr. michael moore joins us to talk about everything. the nsa guns, president obama the two-party system, his spiritual values, his multiple death threats and what he wants to do next. it is best michael moore interview ever and it's right here on "viewpoint" because i told him i was just filling in for eliot spitzer this one night. if you're discouraged over how hard it is to get any gun safety laws passed in america these days, consider this. colin goddard was shot during the virginia tech massacre. he's still got three bullet fragments in his body, still fighting and he joins us tonight. >> our nonexperts discussing the

new statistic that nearly 70% of americans are on prescription drugs but don't worry it is the safe legal wholesome drugs the taxable kind. today is the birthday of brian wilson, nicole kidman and coco beware. and 150 years ago in a divide america, west virginia on this day became our 35th state. at least now when you join the union, you get a free ring tone. this is "viewpoint." >> john: good evening, i'm john fuglesang. welcome to "viewpoint." the road to progress in this country can be excruciatingly slow. it has been for the 11.5 million undocumented immigrants or for those seeking true marriage equality waiting on the edge of% their seat for the supreme court

decision on the defense of marriage act and prop 8. it is almost like the only people who get satisfaction are those introduced useless an atie abortion bills. a little more than six months after the shooting at sandy hook elementary, vice president biden is reduced to saying this. >> the president and i are a team. we have not given up. >> john: the academy award winning documentary bowling for columbine made kmart stop sell guns. how is it virginia tech,. aurora and the countless other shootings have changed nothing even as the public says they demand an end to the violence? nothing seems to be making sense at this point. the prying eyes of the nsa have created a world where we see no one less than michael moore joining glenn beck in saying the obama administration has lost credibility. are we in america to call this progress? it is not just strange bedfellows. it is like an orgy at the "star wars" cantina. i'm pleased to welcome academy award winning filmmaker michael moore to "viewpoint."

great to have you here. >> thanks for having me. let's clear up the glenn beck thing. >> john: you're not bffs now? >> i read the story the last week because we both spoke out against the nsa spying. but the difference between glenn beck and myself is that when bush did it, he was okay with it. >> john: exactly right. >> he's not okay with it now. now, as bill maher says, president blacken stein is in charge. >> john: sluctive umbrage industry. >> i spoke out against it when bush was president. i'll speak out against it when a democrat is president. >> john: which is why i think you're so respected and some libertarians and a few conservatives are in the same place. does it astonish you to see dianne feinstein and john boehner in lock step for it and then we'll see actual conservatives and liberals, not democrats and republicans against this kind of spying?

>> you know, i grew up -- i'm from a generation where it was a democrat who escalated the vietnam war and sent 58,000 americans to their death. and countless millions, south asian to their death. it was done by a democrat and then continued by the republican nixon. it was a democrat who spied on martin luther king. it was a democrat -- you can go down the whole list of things here. so am i surprised that dianne feinstein would be for the spying or that nancy pelosi says that the courageous whistle-blower, edward snowden should be prosecuted? nancy pelosi of san francisco? right? i just think that well, okay, that's right. just when i'm warming up to the pelosi family -- [ laughter ] i realize oh, yeah, that's right. they're really just part of the same problem. just a nicer version of it. >> john: i think that's good

for democracy when we show the differences between conservatives and republicans and progressives and democrats. i think that wakes people up out of the matrix. this duopoloy puppet show. >> who thinks now that of 310 million americans -- you had a baby this year. it just ballooned. to think that two political parties could represent the broad spectrum of political thought amongst 310 million people is just insanity. we need four or five or six political parties in this country if they were going to truly reflect how people feel. >> john: with all of the problems of coalition governments, you get information out there. i'm constantly reminding our friends that our first third party president made it to the white house with 38% of the vote and it it was a republican and it was lincoln. now, it is interesting seeing the president. this democrat, bristle when being compared to vice president cheney. can we roll that clip for a

second? here's barack obama. >> obama: some people say obama was this raving liberal before. now he's dick cheney. dick cheney says sometimes yeah. he took it lock, stock and barrel. >> john: barack obama wants us to know he's different from dick cheney. >> i love the fact he said that on the day this week that was the 41st anniversary of the watergate break-in, compliments of dick, i'm not a crook nixon. the same day obama says i'm not a dick cheney. >> john: the coincidence is hilarious. you tweeted about it. in fair tons the president -- >> which president? >> john: barack obama. >> the current one. >> john: until he invades a country that never attacked us to make his old bosses rich, i think it is safe to say he's not like dick cheney. >> i'm surprised -- he seemed to have a self-image problem or some kind of -- i don't know what the problem was that day -- why would he even bring that up, you know? it is like, you know, you saying

i'm no joy behar. it's like why would you even say something like that? >> john: exactly. especially after all of the years i tried to be. i want to shift to the gun debate for a second. and you were in a very curious place in the american media landscape because every time one of the awful atrocities happen, you tend to be the first artist the corporate media goes to weigh in on things. having won the academy award for the finest film yet made about gun violence in this country and the history about gun violence in this country i wonder, were you surprised to see 90% of americans supporting a lymph watered down background check ruling and this senate dominated by democrats doesn't even let it go to a vote. >> well, the worst part about that is that if you do that enough times to the public where you literally ignore the will of not just the majority but of all

but the criminally insane, what does that tell the average citizen? the message is, well, what's the use? my voice doesn't mean anything. i've got 90% of the americans with me. it doesn't mean anything. what's the point of getting involved politically doing my part whatever? i'll just go back to the bachelorette. >> the people who own this country want that. >> absolutely. >> john: they want a dispirited population that drowns themselves in the kardashians. >> it is critical that the distractions exist. as less and less people are distracted by the old distractions, like religion, for instance, they've gotta come up with new religions and new things to draw people in and focus their attention elsewhere. they're very skilled at it. they've been doing this for a few thousand years. >> john: i still have faith in the people.

i think the newtown families, for example have done a masterful job of putting a human face on the tragedy. every time they try to say there goes the democrats trying to exploit the tragedy, no, they're trying to prevent the next one. are you heartened to see that even with all of the crap we're getting from the media and the nra money that still 90% of americans were on board with this. >> yes. and i believe that the jig is up for the nra and for those who support having no gun control. it may not -- it never happens on the first round. look what happened in 2004. all of those elections where they voted against marriage in all of these states. it really looked like gays and lesbians are never going to be allowed to be married in our country, not in our lifetime. eight years later the majority public, the polls support gay marriage. state after state is doing it now. the supreme court is going to rule maybe while we're sitting

here, very soon, on prop 8. and california. >> john: if the people lead, they will follow. they refused to have a vote on gun control. who can people do? you could ask this -- you get asked this all the time. what can people do to product their leaders? >> the leaders need to be -- the one power that we have, we don't have the money that the halliburtons and the koch brothers have and all of that but we do have the votes. that's what frightens them. when they're sitting up at home at night in connecticut they're like boy i just hate this thing that this constitution still gives everybody one vote. because when they go to vote, they don't get to keep pulling the lever. they only get one vote when the rich are behind those curtains. that's it. >> john: yeah. >> we have, you know, 200 million possible votes versus their .1% of the vote.

they know that we could tomorrow undo their whole -- all of the damage they've done. see, we think they're just like out there partying and they're at the hamptons, it is the summertime and they're not worried about us. they're always worried about us. they always believe the barbarians are at the gate. >> john: because we are. >> and we are. >> john: we should be. isn't that the history of the country to me, it is not progressive versus conservative. the day we forced jefferson to keep slavery in, it has been the struggle of jobs, jobs, jobs versus profit, profit, profit. how do you fight that? >> see i think -- here's how the fight i think is going to be won. people younger than us, the generation prior to you they are great. one thing the '60s generation, we were going to change the world and make it all better and we didn't quite pull that off but we did raise a lot

of really good kids and we didn't raise haters and bigots and homophobes. and these kids, if you know anybody who is a teenager in their 20s or whatever, oh, my god, they're so different in terms of their attitudes toward other people, their compassion, their connection to this earth that they want to survive. i think that they're going to pick up the ball here and make this better. and fight back. and you know, the thing is, too they know. you and i are -- we are the children of world war ii and depression era parents. i don't know how old your parents are. >> john: i have older parents. >> okay. so we had a much better life than our parents had. growing up. and the kick was going to be that our kids were going to have even a better life than we had. and now these kids all know thats they have the shaft. first of all we send them out

at 22 years old into a debtor's prison we call the real world because they're taking with them anywhere from $20,000 to $100,000 of student debt. >> john: 20 years of school then put you on the day shift. i think you're right. i'm very encouraged by seeing it is young people who are convincing their parents homophobia is wrong and their science reports that climate change is real. can you stick around? >> sure. >> john: we'll give you a free "viewpoint" with eliot spitzer mug. we'll be back in a second with mr. michael moore.

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cenk off air alright in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks! i think the number 1 thing than viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. they know that i'm not bsing them for some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know i'm going to be the first one to call them out. cenk on air>> what's unacceptable is how washington continues to screw the middle class over.

cenk off air i don't want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. cenk on air you got to go to the local level, the state level and we have to fight hard to make sure they can't buy our politics anymore. cenk off air and they can question if i'm right about that. but i think the audience gets that, i actually mean it. cenk on air 3 trillion dollars in spending cuts! narrator uniquely progressive and always topical the worlds largest online news show is on current tv. cenk off air and i think the audience gets, "this guys to best of his abilities is trying to look out for us." only on current tv! >> john: michael moore is a man who's always gone to the wall for what he believes. an assembly line worker in flint, michigan is considered one of the most influential artists and people in the world but that's not always easy. as the tag line from his film fahrenheit 9-11 said,

controversy, what controversy? he has had his share. we're back with our friend, michael moore. and one of the things you brought up in a panel that we did recently was the subject of anger and how you've used it and found a way to channel it, using humor as well in your films and that so much of political action is about people using anger. i want to ask about the anger that you've had personally directed at you as a man as an american as an artist from a lot of vit roy olic right wing [ bleep ] you received so much hate on a regular basis. >> you said that? >> john: i did say that. you receive so much of this unjustified scorn. the only other artist i can think of is jane fonda. people are likely mad at her instead of mcnamara. your last two films which i think are your best. both sicko and capitalism are my favorite films. capitalism was the last film i

watched with my dad. you bend over backwards in these films to assign blame on both political parties admirably. on a personal level how do you handle the meanness? >> well, i go to my two lovers, ben & jerry. >> john: yeah? >> well, i think, to be honest, which of course, we're on tv so that's usually not a good idea. >> john: you make a habit of it. >> but it hasn't been easy. i've often thought especially after fahrenheit and especially after i was booed off the stage at the oscars -- >> john: a lot of them from cheering for you. >> i know that. a lot of them were home cheering. i wish they had been in the kodak theatre. but the threats the death threats started. and one thing i've learned about death threats is a degree actually. you actually should be grateful for death threats because those who are take the time to

threaten you that way are getting it out of their system. that's really what they want to do. they just want to yell at you and threaten you. the people you need to be afraid of are the ones not issuing the threat. in my case, i -- after "fahrenheit 9/11" came out was assaulted on the street and twice on the stage in an auditorium, half a dozen times. and then the police caught the man who was making a fertilizer bomb to blow up my house. and to be honest, i have to say that after that, i thought boy if i had this to do over again, would i? really? would i make this film? would i have said what i said? >> john: what i see you doing after that, if you'll forgive me i see you channeling that into love. sicko to me is a movie about love. where you are -- you're fighting for the people who hate you. you're like one of the x-men. you're fighting for the very people. the way you explained

derivatives and capitalism a love story is exactly what the folks who watch fox news need to see. you blame it fairly enough on bill clinton and the repeal of glass -- >> kind of you to say that. >> john: how do you handle the pain? do you channel it creatively or does it hurt? >> no, it doesn't hurt. i think i -- yes well what i did was like after the oscars speech, i went to work the next day and said i've got this idea. we should make this film. 12 months later it came out. during the entire year after that, that's what i did. and then after that, i made "sicko." one of the things i said to the crew on "sicko," on this film, we're going to help those who have been told that healthcare, universal healthcare is a bad idea and who have been hurt by the people that they believe in, the republican party and all of that. let's go out there in middle america and do this. >> john: in your work, again to bring it back to the work, you don't just say this guy

roger is a horrible man. you want him to come on a friendly trip with you. >> that wasn't a joke. >> john: you're not a bomb thrower. you've been looking for reconciliation and to extend a hand. often to those who do despise you. i guess there is a strong, spiritual current through a lot of your films, even a great jesus show atop capitalism, do you have a spiritual force that drives you? do you believe in god? do you have a religion? >> yeah. i was raised in an irish catholic household. >> john: being raised is one thing. raised religious, now spiritual. >> i think irish and catholics in general -- i remember when i had my show on nbc "tv nation," and i did a piece with janeane garofalo and i wanted to test out the theory that why -- do all churches give the same

penance in confession or does it change from church to church? because remember when i was a kid. we had two priests. you would line up for confession. they would both be in their booths. you wouldn't know which one you're going to get because one wrob in there longer or shorter but we had the very conservative strict priest then we had the hippie priest. you stand there going please, give me the hippie priest because the conservative priest is going to make me say five rosaries. the hippie peace is going to tell me to have a nice day. in this piece for the show on nbc, i wanted to create a sinner's guide for manhattan so that when you're visiting new york city and you're catholic and you've sinned, you need to go to church, i'm going to show you the best churches to go to for confession, the easiest penance. so we drove around in a winnebago all day. janine in the win -- winnebago so they would have lust, impure

thoughts as the nuns would say. we would have to stop at a church and we would film her going in and she would have a mic on and we would hear her penance then we were able to tell the public these are the churches that give you the easy penance. >> john: it drives you. >> i went to the seminary when i was in high school to be a priest. i really wanted to do -- that's what i wanted to do. i didn't want to -- i just wanted to help. i was inspired by cesar chavez and other catholics like him and the bear -- berrigan brothers. by the time i hit 15 and a half, the hormones kicked in and i read the rule book. i believe. did you go to the seminary? >> john: no, i didn't. >> you're the parents -- >> my dad was a franciscan. he took the celibacy vow and broke it when he fell in love and married my mom the ex-nun likes to say artists who take on causes, artists who have a political mission have a

ministry. and i've come to believe that about a lot of people. fame is maybe the most useless thing humans have invented. when you use the capital to help others, it is a spiritual practice. i want to ask what kind of films do you still want to make? i know people ask you to make films about certain subjects all the time. what do you want to do? >> right now the films that i am considering or writing are fiction films where i'm going to tell various truths by not telling the truth because it's fiction. so i have some ideas about that and i'm -- i've been working on them. i don't really talk about it. >> john: i do just want to say you said in a thing we did together that the two subjects, americans ask you the most to make a film about are the education system and is real palestine. >> yes. >> john: i guess i gotta be a clone and say any chance that might ever happen? do the subjects interest you? >> sure, i think about it all

the time. i've really thought the education film that needs to be made. i think it needs to be made by teachers. i think that there is a teacher throughout tonight -- >> john: my mother-in-law is a teacher. >> they've seen it all. they live it. they see it. they've thought about it. especially the teachers who are -- i want a teacher who is just on the edge. you know? who's like the man in network. peter finch who goes crazy but he's not crazy but he's crazy but he's had. >> john: it is brilliant. it is taking a capital ethic into public education. we're spending $67 -- $7 billion to blow up tanks. sell it and pay teachers more. i can't wait to see what you do next. >> thank you. i'm sorry it's taken so long. i've been waiting for keith to call me. what's going on? >> john: you and me both. michael moore, thank you so much for joining us.

what a pleasure. >> you're the best, man. keep doing this. >> john: you keep doing your thing, too. keep it up. up next, we'll be wrapping up our week long wtf utah series.

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he had a real estate transaction that's a little bit suspicious so let's get our gladys kravitz on and peek through the window to see if we can figure out what's going on in the house across the street. like many americans senator lee had to recently sell a home in a short sale. unlike many americans, he was then able to rent a home from the person he short sold the house to, ron mcmillan, a federal contractor and campaign donor. the rented home is perched on a nice street snugly nestled between a cul-de-sac and a conflict of interest but let's not forget who the real victim in this case is, mortgage bank jpmorgan chase who took such a big loss when senator lee made his short sale. haven't the banks suffered enough through the past years? when i think of the high seven figure bonuses reduced to low seven figure bonuses it just saddens me so. the home that senator lee is renting is a four bedroom house on a half acre costing an estimated $202 a month. this begs the question why the

hell am i not living in utah? i'm no new york city. you can't even rent a doorknob for $2002. i'm forced to decide between paying for my child's education or paying next month's rent. wtf, utah. stop tormenting us with your entirely affordable housing! guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking?

>> as proud as the president is, as proud as i am of the progress we've made, we need congress to act. the american people are demanding it. as i've said before, we need to make sure the voices of those we lost are the loudest ones we hear in this fight. we need to make sure that every one in the country knows that this fight isn't over. >> john: this week, vice president biden was careful to address the criticism that the white house won't be able to get meaningful gun control legislation passed on the hill. our next guest knows the real life impact of the lack of background checks. colin goddard was shot four

times while he sat in a classroom at virginia tech during the massacre of 2007. only seven students survived. three bullets are still lodged in his shoulder and hip. they're daily if not hourly reminder of why his work with the brady campaign to prevent gun violence is so critical. we're pleased to welcome our friend, colin goddard back to "viewpoint." thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you. >> john: great to have you sir. as you know, the white house was heavily criticized for presenting a severely scaled back list of gun control solutions. the white house said they're winning the war against gun advocates in spite of the lack of new nationwide legislation. what do you make of the comments from the white house and as you just heard from vice president biden? >> we know that the white house is 100% behind effort to improve gun policy in this country. that is clear. it is -- you know, they understand, they're being obstructive amongst every turn that they make by other members in congress.

they understand that the piece they need is the american public. when have we had 90% of the american public agree on anything let alone something on gun policy, background checks. despite the headlines that came out of the senate when the vote failed, we had a majority of u.s. senators vote to expand background checks. we had six nra a-rated members of the senate vote to expand background checks. so we have to remember back to when we set the system up in the mid '90s. it took three different presidential administrations. people need to not think this is some light switch we flick but this is a battingship that's been turning. you can't see it because it is so big but we have changed the politics on this issue. >> john: well put. michael moore was here. he spoke earlier about the failure of gun control legislation. he said the no vote, as you know, left a lot of people despiritted asking what's the point. short of bombarding the members of congress, how can people make a difference and be a part of

steering the battingship? >> well, there were a lot of victims in the balcony when the vote went down. one was sara brady. sara brady who had been there through fight after fight after fight in the mid '90s. when people got up to walk out she took a bunch of them under her arms and said a loss like this will do you some good. as soon as we got back to our offices, our phones and e-mails were flooded with people, new people, so enraged with what happened, trying to get involved. so, to your point what we need to get done is we need to understand that people who voted against something that 90% of the americans support had to lose the election. they need to understand there is a consequence now. the calculation on capitol hill has never been, for decades if they vote against good gun policy, there is going to be hell to pay. when was the last time you saw a senator vote against a background check measure and lose 15 point of approval overnight or a republican who

sponsored background checks, gain approval rating. you know. these are the dynamics that are new to this issue are new again, i should say, after two decades of really nothing. that is the beginning of the change that we need. we have yet to see what is going to be brought to bear in 2014 between mayors against illegal guns and americans for responsible solutions the giffords organization. this is the missing piece. unfortunately, we need money to play this game in d.c. but it's people, as well. we have people like we've never had people before. >> john: indeed. and it's growing more and more every day. you don't have 90% of people supporting christmas in this country. we mention on the show a lot when we talk about the nra we're not talking about the nice, lawful gun-owning folks who are members of the nra. we're talking about their management. their owners. we're talking about the guys who put out the talking points who sell fear so gun sales go up because they only exist for profit. and they only exist to put more money in the pockets of the gun owners. that's what we're talking about.

colin, you may have seen this already, the video of john canton, whose daughter was killed by her estranged husband as he was heckled by a kelly ayotte thee ander all this in new hampshire. >> the names i delivered were the names of young people like my daughter, melissa. sir, please have a little respect. >> i am respecting. if you had the speech in your mind, wouldn't you have to read all of the propaganda [ bleep ] >> are you done? >> no, i'm not done. >> i'm not done either. the names of young children like the ones killed in newtown on december 14th. they're the names of those who have been killed by a gun in six months since newtown. >> john: colin nowadays when you try support a limp background measure supported by 90% of americans you'll have troglodytes like the guy in the red shirt saying you're exploiting a tragedy. they're not. what do you tell people on your side facing off with that kind of rude, crude opposition?

>> everyone who's ever spoken out publicly in support of good gun policy like background checks has experienced something like that gentleman experienced. unfortunately for a lot of people, a lot of -- a lot of people get turned off by that. they don't want to talk anymore. and if you -- what i tell people is watch the end of the film. watch what happens. that man stays there. continues talking. strengthens his resolve. and finishes his point and the other man goes home. that's the message. that's the model that the rest of us need to take on this issue. >> john: well put. i do want to ask you about joe manchin's new ad released today urging people to contact nra about background checks after they turned on him. the ad shows senator manchin holding his rifles throughout because he's a big gun guy. will we ever see democrats call in on batting ground states who don't have to prove their love of guns and say guns are fine but i'm not into them and i wish we didn't have them. could that happen or do

democrats have to show how much they love guns all the time? >> there are 300 million guns already in circulation in this country. we have to kind of face facts and understand that they're here. so what can we do with the guns already out there held in large part by responsible americans. but do a better job of making sure they don't fall into the hands of dangerous people. when you sell a gun if you don't background check somebody, how are you ever supposed to know who the person is. background check is responsible policy. it is responsible gun ownership and the refrain of responsible gun ownership is what's going to break the stranglehold on this issue. take us out of this vague terms we've used strict gun laws and speak specifically to this issue like senator manchin has who shot a hole in the cap and trade bill and is now putting an ad out like that saying call the nra, asking them why don't they support background checks. that is exactly the refrain and the language we need to carry this forward and see some

progress. thank you, joe manchin. >> john: colin goddard is a campaign manager with the brady campaign to prevent gun violence. as always, colin, thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> great to be with you. >> john: don't go away. our comedy panel of absolute nonexperts joins us next. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

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(vo) sharp tongue. >>excuse me? (vo) quick wit. >> and yes, president obama does smell like cookies and freedom. (vo) and above all, opinion and attitude. >> really?! this is the kind of stuff they say about something they just pulled freshly from their [bleep]. >> you know what those people are like. >> what could possibly go wrong in eight years of george bush? >> my producer just coughed up a hairball. >>sorry. >>just be grateful current tv doesn't come in "smell-o-vision" >> oh come on! the sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. (vo)only on current tv. >> john: welcome back. it's time once again for our esteemed panel of nonexperts. joining me now is comedian and author of moment of clarity an essential book whose new web show can be seen at lee camp.net

mr. dean obeidallah. and a writer comedian who is perhaps best known for his portrayal of tv's frank on mystery theatre we have mr. frank. we have devices flying high in the skies to americans flying high period. fbi director mueller acknowledged in congressional testimony on wednesday his agency has used aerial drones within the united states. this was featured in the latest issue of "no duh" magazine. obama and the political establishment as a whole have brought out the standard war on terror argument claiming surveillance programs have prevented over 50 potential terrorist events since september, 2001. dianne feinstein who is chair of the senate intelligence committee had this to say to fbi director mueller. >> if people are concerned about privacy, i think the greatest threat to the privacy of

americans is the drone and the use of the drone. and the very few regulations that are on it today and the booming industry of commercial drones. >> john: gentlemen much love for dianne feinstein is. she right? are drones a bigger threat to our privacy than putting cameras in dressing rooms? lee? >> i don't know if they're a greater threat. i think it is all a terrible threat. i hate this argument you always hear, we already knew it. we already knew it. that doesn't make it any less horrible or an intrusion or anything else. >> john: you're right. dean, you're a muslim. we should all be suspicious of you. >> this has been my life. er going to the mosque, place where muslims eat, where they go to work. it is unbelievable. this is the world we live in.

if you're looking at things out in the open as a former lawyer, i will be honest for a second. no expectation of privacy. just like a helicopter, police helicopter looking into your house. but if you're up to something in the backyard, the lawn, sorry. >> john: they're already watching us with satellites, anyway. frank, dean makes a good point. do individual privacy interests have to be subordinate to public safety? >> well, i'm just happy that anyone is taking an interest in me and my life. so i welcome the insertion into my privacy. i do think you know, this generation, we all grew up, my generation and subsequent generations, we all grew up watching sci-fi movies. we know that the drones, that the machines are going to take on a life of their own. >> john: this is true. >> they're going to rebel against us or some of them might just say i do not understand what this thing is you call

love. but other than those we know they're going to turn evil and attack us. >> john: exactly. the people have not seen terminator machines fighting machines. i don't view it as being surveilled by the state. i view it as a socialist webcam show. senator feinstein used the term commercial drones which makes me think some drones might have disney logos on them. who is really pushing for the modeling airplanes with cameras? rupert murdoch is getting one correct? rupert murdoch has a drone. i'm sure kanye will want 50. >> designer drones. >> cool bling bling drones. part of the whole collection. >> no one is going to show up at a premiere or party without their own personal drone. >> they've got to make as much money as possible from these. i love the story when they first revealed drones were in the sky about the alabama kidnapping, like the perfect story of no one could be against this.

like a terrorist grab the unicorn and it was drinking its rainbow. we had to use a drone. what choice did we have? they did the same thing with the shoe bomber. >> john: let me shift. speaking of flying high, i don't know if anyone on our panel is on drugs but the odds are more than likely more than one of you is. nearly 70% of americans are on at least one prescription drug and more than half receive two prescriptions. according to dr. saler have from the clinic. they're talking about chronic conditions like heart disease or diabetes but the second most common prescription was for anti-depressants and the third most common were opennoids which are pain relieves and great if there's nothing good on tv on a friday night. who's high right now? anyone anyone? >> i'm lie on life. -- i'm high on life. i'm incredibly depressed, in other words. >> john: what does it say?

does the study say if 70% of us are on prescription drugs that's the legal taxable kind and the second highest amount of that is anti-depressants, are we just really depressed as a nation? >> i think this tells you should buy stock in drug companies. >> that will make us happy. >> if your income goes up. but let's be honest. right now, the idea if you go to a doctor, psychologist, psychiatrist, medication is very quick answer for people. >> john: that's not new historically. 100 years ago the turn of the 20th century heroin accounted for 5% of bayer's profits and back then it was solds a child's cough syrup. >> they couldn't push it on tv which is how they do it now. they're like holy crap, be afraid. then every commercial, do you have anxiety? >> john: i see the poor people arrested for illegal drugs and i see commercials for the legal

drugs. >> exactly. that's the true horror is that for pot you get put in jail like it just came out recently the nypd over the past decade has spent a million hours putting people in jail for low-level pot. so you medicate yourself in the nice prescription way, that's fine and you medicate yourself in a different way against life which can flare up and sting like a bimp, then you get put in jail. >> maybe we need a prozac pro-hibition. >> john: i think depression is your body's way of telling you to change something in your life. are we overmedicated? as a whole women and older adults receive the most prescription drugs. i'm wondering, if it is women and older americans more than men, do men consider themselves too macho to go to the doctor? >> i think this generation comes up, kids were growing up take ritalin if they had problems. it is acceptable for a young age

to get medication. combat your problems, not to try to deal with it internally. either walking it off like when we were kids, you have a problem, walk it off or psychotherapy, they can regain some kind of -- drugs will be the answer. >> john: yeah, you're a girl. dean, you gotta know. you want to be a real american man, bury it and swallow your rage. displace your anger unto others. >> john: in a moment, we'll have funeral on set for a big homophobic club. it should be fun. guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking?

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>> john: if you could pick one person or organization to banish to the phantom zone, who would it be? >> i would pick any celebrity who has a lot of money who starts a kick starter campaign. >> john: very good answer. dean obeidallah? >> anthony weiner just because i said him last time.

>> john: lee camp? >> every mainstream media news host except you. i think we should just start anew and they should be more like you. have all new ones. >> john: that's great. thank you. i'm going to pay you double normal just for that comment. we end tonight's show on a note of solemn remembrance. we're gathered here to say good-bye to an organization that wasness once a reliable source of comedic disdain. we lay to rest exodus international, the international house of pray the gay away or ihopatg. in a move so unbelievable, so implausible, it could have come from a screenplay, this fake a christian group this right wing group is not only shut down but its leader, alan chambers has apologize fod the gay community for being so awful for 37 years to the gay community. chambers said...

>> john: now, some say that alan chambers and exodus international are not totally sincere about this but the idea of a right wing evangelical christian leader being insincere is too implausible to even contemplate. the very fact that a person so prominent in the business of gay bashing should apologize for his hurtful statements means we have no choice but to mourn the loss of the kind of target comedians love best, the easy kind of target. you see afterall, the highly lucrative of comedy has allowed some to rake in hundreds of dollars every year. as i was rehearsing this sincere eulogy i realized something if alan chambers really feels bad for being mean to gays and tormenting gays and taking their money for a fake inversion racket couldn't he maybe possibly give them some of their money back? so i gave a closer read to all

of alan chamber's comments and a few lines of his speech really came out. hard. i cannot apologize for my deeply held biblical beliefs about the boundaries i see in scripture surrounding sex. i cannot apologize for my beliefs about marriage. ah, isn't it nice when homophobic guys really like it both ways? he laments destroying the lives, the relationships and bank accounts of gay people but never says it's okay to be gay. he just regrets the mean way they made their points. and then i heard about the speech he gave, announcing the closing of exodus where he said "this doesn't mean i believe anything differently than i did a decade ago, when my message was different from what it is today. i'm not saying that we abandon what we believe." whew. for a second, i thought this was the beginning a more tolerant and loving and accepting world but it's not. it is a kinder, gentler more polite kind of homophobic scorn. he's recalculating.

thank you, alan chambers. the only thing i love more than nonbigots is make fun of bigots and for a second there i thought i was going to lose you bro. but no, no, you self-serving, fake repenting pseudoenlightened, anti-christian, you haven't changed. you still believe friend that, god makes so many gay people because he hates them and that even though jesus never said a damn thing against gays, it only means he wants guys like you to pick up the slack. i've known guys in chelsea that can't hustle like you. he said he was a great father and a great decorator. that's the problem. when she is guys say they hit the sin but love the sinner, they can't stand the sinner but kind of dig the sin. the only problem is, allen being gay isn't wrong. pretending to be something you're not is. you see alan chambers of exodus, you're not really a straight homophobe. you're just confused. that's our show for tonight. i want to thank lee camp, dean obeidallah and frank conifer for

joining us as well as colin goddard and up-and-coming filmmaker michael moore. this is "viewpoint." we'll be back on monday. we're still here. it's current. good night mom. >> tonight, paula deen is in hot water for using the "n" word. paula said she's not racist and some of her best friends live outside her gated community. plus, i'll talk with miami student holly jacobs who said her ex-boyfriend tried to seek revenge by posting nude photos of her online. now he's fighting back. the funny margaret cho will be stopping by. all of that and more coming up on "say anything."