[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: good morning everybody. happy friday. here we go. friday before the july 4th holiday. we've got lots to talk about. lots happening here in our nation's capital. this is the "full court press" coming to you live on current tv this friday morning june 28. bringing you up to date. first of all president obama and the first family wrapping up their first visit official visit to africa. country of senegal. they've leave senegal later

today and move on to south africa where, if possible, president obama is expected to stop by the hospital in pretoria and visit the ailing, perhaps dying nelson mandela. back here at home, the senate finally passed comprehensive immigration reform yesterday by a vote of 68-32. that's the bill put together by the gang of 8. john boehner says it will be dead on arrival. in the house of representatives. the house, he said, will do its own -- it will not take up the senate bill for a vote. meanwhile, aired up in boston, aaron hernandez already charged with one murder is being investigated for possibly involved in two more, a couple of years ago. and congress will go home today without doing anything about student loans because they don't care about students. you can comment on all of the above by giving us a call at 1-866-55-press.

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the "bill press show." i know it is your favorite day of the week, too. here we go, this one big friday because it gets us into a good weekend warm-up for the 4th of july holiday coming up next week long weekend following that. a long, long weekend. not just a four day -- it will be one two three four. maybe a five-day weekend. >> whoa. >> bill: depends on how far we can stretch it out. good to see you everybody. thank you for joining us here on the "full court press" as we come out to you live all the way across the united states of america. on your local progressive radio station wherever you happen to be and lucky if you've got one on sirius x.m. this hour only and of course all three hours on current tv. we'll be on current tv as long as there is a current tv which looks like will be about until the end of august. before al jazeera takes over.

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black today i'm in mourning because i have to be a father again to pick up my kids today. from grandparents. >> bill: there you go. i'm heading up north to rhode island to the beach. dan headed for the eastern shore? >> no, i'm going to the at&t national golf tournament which tiger is not playing in. he was there yesterday and wednesday. i doubt he's there today. >> bill: why do you go? >> because i enjoy watching golf and because he's not there and there are a bunch of other huge names. >> bill: more access. >> exactly. my mom went yesterday. she said there was not a lot of people there. >> bill: like congressional? >> congressional country club where they play the u.s. open. >> bill: where i was thrown off the course one day. >> what! >> bill: oh, yeah. thrown off the course but that's another story. i didn't know you had to wear clothes to play golf. >> i was going to say. >> bill: at esha cruz --

alichia cruz is finishing up her week at the beach. javon paris on the phones today. thank you. cyprian bowlding has us look good on current tv. thank you cyprian. president obama in senegal yesterday meeting with reporters. he and the president -- pardon me of senegal. i know it's early in the morning. >> did you just yawn? >> did i. >> it doesn't happen very often. >> bill: i don't think i've yawned in the middle of my own sentence. >> when i'm talking you're over there yawning all the time. >> bill: it's friday. >> i feel ya. >> bill: my yawn had nothing to do with president obama. he was asked about edward snowden and the idea that we're going to send in the marines or that we're actually -- to a jet he's on passes over u.s. territory, we're going to force the jet down, the president says this guy ain't all that

important. >> obama: i'm not going to have one case of a suspect who we're trying to extradite suddenly being elevated to the point where i've got to start doing wheeling and dealing and trading on a whole host of other issues. simply to get a guy extradited so that he can face the justice system here in the united states. no, i'm not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker. >> bill: that was one of the theories that the reason that edward moscow didn't leave moscow on the now famous flight to havana was because it passed over -- we talked about that monday, it passed over american territory, several states because it is a polar route.

we could have forced the plane down in the united states. president says no. they're putting this in perspective now which i think is important and hasn't been a lot of talk about what happens to edward snowden. the white house and the state department have toned down the rhetoric a little bit. congressman chris van holland representing the state of maryland in the house from nearby montgomery county will be in studio with us next hour as will karl frisch here as a "friend of bill." and a little bit later this hour, we'll talk to wayne slater, one of the top political reporters in the country from dallas texas who's all over rick perry and wendy davis and the big feud down in texas. but first -- >> this is the "full court press." >> on this friday, other stories to talk about as you head out the door, more sponsors dropping their support of paula deen yesterday namely nordisk the

diabetes drugmaker. they suspended their relationship. target also not happy that she admitted to using racist slurs. they're phasing out all paula deen merchandise from their stores as is the home depot. >> bill: is there anybody left? >> that's remarkable. >> bill: you can get a run on paula deen goods these days. >> every single day. it is a big deal. that drug endorsement deal, we talked about it. it was a lot of money. >> bill: probably made more money on that than anything else. >> members of congress and the media faced off in the annual women's softball game wednesday night for charity. our friend lynn sweet of the "chicago sun-times" and the rest of her bad news babes beat the lady members of congress 11-8. the hill reports senator gillibrand was the star for the congressional team. she hit to the outfield to score two runs for an early lead but the news babes prevailed for a second year in a row.

game raising money to help young women diagnosed with breast cancer. >> bill: how did lynn do? >> no stat on lynn. >> bill: get her in here to find out. bad news babes. >> she's a bulldog man. she takes that stuff very seriously. >> bill: kirson gillibrand, too. >> bill: so does debbie wasserman schultz. >> there was some major trash talk leading up to that game between politicians and the reporters. >> forbes released its most powerful celebrities list for the year this week after two years in the number two slot, oprah winfrey, queen oprah back on top. jennifer lopez was number one last year. she dropped down to 12th. lady gaga, spielberg beyoncé and madonna. oprah is one of three people who has been on the top 100 most powerful list every year since it began in 1999 along with steven spielberg and howard stern.

>> bill: queen oprah still reigns in some circles at any rate. >> they started voting on immigration reform. this is the bill put together by the gang of eight in the senate. a bill that chuck schumer at one time said there's no doubt with all of the amendments we're taking, especially that last amendment on border security, doubling the number of agents at the border, totally unnecessary. at any rate with that, schumer said we're going to get -- you watch, way way over 70 votes. they were talking close to 80 votes. it didn't turn out quite that way but it was an important victory. a victory for president obama. it has been one of his top priorities. and it was a bipartisan vote. john mccain on the floor of the senate yesterday saying we've got a problem here in this country. this is how we're going to fix

it. >> isn't it in us to bring 11 million people out of the shadows that are now being exploited and have none of the protections of citizenship? how do we address some of these? this legislation does secure the border. >> bill: senator lindsey graham, another republican from south carolina said you're going to become citizens and have all of the advantages and disadvantages that we have. >> you will be paying taxes. you're going to have the pleasure of getting to know the i.r.s. like the rest of us. welcome to america. >> bill: welcome to america. then they took the vote and vice president joe biden presiding announces a big victory. >> the yeas for this bill are 68. the nays are 32. the bill as amended is passed.

hits the gavel. there you go. what do you think about this? 1-866-55-press. is it a bill that goes far enough? is this what we've been hoping for and waiting for and working for all of these years? this is an issue that's been around a long, long time. 1-866-55-press. on twitter at bpshow. let us know what you think. but here's the downside of that. there were 52 democrats voted for this plus two independents, bernie sanders and angus king. only 14 republicans voted for it. all of this talk about republicans, about reaching out. about man we got our asses whooped in 2012 with the latino vote. all we could get was almost 29% of the vote.

we gotta do a better job of reaching out to the immigration world. do a better job. and the first way we can convince latinos we care about them is to pass comprehensive immigration reform. that's what they said. that's what republican after republican, after republican said. that's what the official reports said. the rnc put out a report saying we've got to do this. >> i know we move awfully quickly in our news cycles these days but it was not that long ago. you said, it was universal. almost every pundit said one of the biggest things that contributed to the logs was hispanic voters. >> bill: had to be. again, president obama got 71% of the vote. president obama -- what did republicans do to reach out to

latinos? by voting against the legislation. >> vote for us. >> bill: it is not just the republicans in the senate who refuse to go along but in the house, it's even worse. in the house, john boehner top republican said i don't give a -- what they did in the senate. it ain't gonna happen in the house. >> apparently some haven't gotten the message. the house is not going to take up and vote on whatever the senate passes. >> bill: no. we're just not going to do it. they're going to come up with their own bill which will be a better bill, blah, blah, blah, blah blah. the houseworks to show some leadership, gets the job done. pass it over to the house. boehner, before it even got there, says we're not going to even vote on it. i'm really of the opinion right now there will be no immigration reform bill this year. period. none. because the house is never going to get its act together.

so again but this is an opportunity -- first of all this is bad for the american people. it's bad for the immigrant community. it's bad for latinos. it's especially bad for the republican party which is going to get blamed for this but you know what? they want the blame for this. they don't care. the tea partiers in the house they want to go back and say we blocked immigration reform. they call it amnesty of course. we blocked amnesty. we're not going to let those blankety blank blanks come here and steal our money. you know the hate language you hear. want to get your comments on this 1-866-55-press. this is really important. marco rubio here's marco rubio what was it? five months ago four months ago, i don't think it was six months ago he's on the cover of "time" magazine as the savior of the republican party?

he's the savior. he's the guy. he's the young latino who's going to bring them in. right? make us the party of the latino community. he goes out. busts his butt, helps foreign the immigration reform and out in republicans are turning on him and the tea party which elected him is turning on him because he's come out and is part of the immigration reform bill. they will never learn! never, never never. 1-866-55-press. i gotta tell you i think they'll be able to kill it in the house and despite all of their good work in the senate, there won't be any immigration reform, comprehensive immigration reform this year. i hope i'm wrong. you tell me what you think. let's talk about it here on the "full court press," friday morning. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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>> announcer: this is the "full court press." the "bill press show." live on your radio and on current tv. >> bill: all right. 26 minutes after the hour here on this, a friday morning. the senate passing that comprehensive immigration reform bill yesterday. not the best bill by the way. i think the path to citizenship is far too long. i think all of this extra security at the border is just overkill. but at any rate, it is a good start. better than leaving things the way they are. passed the senate 68-32, john boehner said it is dead on arrival at the house. they will ignore it. not take it up for a vote. it is important to understand as

we get to your calls on this, pardon me, what's happening. boehner, republicans say peter back to what we were talking about. we need to reach out to latinos if we ever want to win the white house back in 2016. john boehner doesn't care about that. all i cares about is -- all he cares about is holding on to the house in 2014 and he thinks this comprehensive immigration bill will make it harder for republicans to hold on to the house because the tea party won't like it if they pass it. he's thinking about 2014. what do we see on social media? >> talking about the political aspect of this. we're tweeting at bpshow where john says this is a win for democrats. they get a bipartisan bill in the senate. but no law ultimately because of g.o.p. intransigents. where will latino voters go? >> bill: no. it is a big win for the democratic party. stupid move on the part of the republican party. brandon in pittsburgh, pennsylvania.

hello, brandon. >> hey, bill, how you doing? >> bill: good. what do you think about all of this? >> caller: you're right about it is overkill on the border. i don't understand how we would let 11 million immigrants who came over here illegally and broke our laws to get pretty much like you said amnesty on the whole situation and let them come over and work. >> bill: amnesty is sort of when you say okay, you're free. you can go. this is really not amnesty. if you think about it, they gotta wait 13 years pay back taxes, learn english pay a fine. wait 13 years. brandon, what's your solution? what are you going to do with them? >> caller: to be honest, if they broke the law in any other country around the world if you go over there illegally -- >> bill: 11 million people brandon, what are you going to do with them? >> caller: you can't put them all in jail. >> bill: you can't put them on buses and send them back to mexico dude. i mean, get real. get real. gotta give them a path to

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don't expect anything to happen today. back on the comprehensive immigration reform, peter what's going on? >> taking comments on twitter at bpshow. kpt says republicans love having illegals here. they hire them over americans for the low pay so they can profit more from it. >> bill: well, that's the irony of the whole thing, of course. the hypocrisy of the whole thing. >> janet foster says i agree bill the house and republicans will not pass immigration reform, just like how they continue to kill jobs bills and block the economy. what else is new? find us at bpshow on twitter. >> bill: they're sort of setting it up so democrats could say hey jobs, jobs, jobs, we tried to get something done. republicans killed every jobs bill. immigration reform, we tried to get done. republicans killed immigration reform in the house. climate change. tried to get it done. pass a bill in the senate. sent it over to the house. nothing happens on issue after issue after issue. nothing.

except again, only thing they can do in the house of representatives is name post offices. they're really good at that. laura in sebring florida. good morning. >> caller: good morning. i just -- i watched the whole thing from the beginning to the end on immigration. and i just think, you know, if you don't feel sorry for these people that have given their lives to cross the desert. they were doing it illegally but they're dead. they came to this country tried to come to this country and died in the process. >> bill: a lot of them did yeah. 11 million of them are here who came here somehow illegally. not all latinos but most of them. what are you going to do? they're already making a contribution to this country. many many, many ways. >> caller: exactly. mccain, i'll tell you what, i don't agree with him on many things. but he really, really spoke from the heart. i saw that when he was speaking yesterday. >> bill: you know i agree

with you about john mccain. and there are others. i don't question their motivation and for some of the republicans, the only reason they're doing it -- and that is part of john mccain's motivation is they realize that for the republican party to have any future in terms of national politics, they've got to come around on this immigration reform and they've got to be part of the solution, right? >> exactly. some of the other republicans just don't get it. it's sad. hey, laura nice to be up early with you this morning. thank you so much for joining us. let's go out to irvine, california david what do you say? good good morning. >> caller: good morning, bill. i can remember 28 years ago, you were debating about the same thing. deja vu. >> bill: i know, i know. i think that way about this issue -- when pete wilson was governor of california, we've been dealing with this issue for a long time.

right? >> caller: the problem i have with this bill, it is completely larded up on both sides of the fence, not just the republicans but also the democrats, they are married -- i'm married to an immigrant who became a u.s. citizen. my wife have several relatives who would benefit if they would go ahead and clear out the four and a half million people that have already paid their fees and that have been waiting in line. currently, they are processing visa requests from 1989 and 1992. >> bill: that far behind? they sure are quick to get out of town for their holidays though. >> don't worry about that. >> bill: i wouldn't want to be at dulles airport this afternoon right about -- i would say any

time after noon, you don't want to be around dulles airport. you don't want to get trampled. there's no reason for dealing with with this issue. there's no reason to let it drag on so long. the frustration -- you know, we've had several people in here from different organizations. latino organizations who are behind this legislation. this is, by far their top priority. believe me, they're going to know how every single person voted on this legislation or didn't vote on this legislation. and there will be hell to pay. if republicans block this from becoming a law. if house republicans block this. and there will be hell to pay for the republican senators who didn't vote for it. bethany in greenville, south carolina, bethany, what do you say? good morning. >> caller: hi, good morning. i just wanted to say i'm happy to see them do something for

immigration. i met my husband it's been about four years ago here in greenville, married him fell in love. he voluntarily left the country two and a half years ago went back to mexico to work on getting his papers fixed. we're still waiting to this day. had a visa interview he got denied. i've talked to senators, called our local senators and no one has any compassion. i've had to stay stateside. i'm actually taking care of my grandfather who has alzheimer's right now. there's no real answer -- they haven't come up with a real answer for it yet. there's a lot of people, friends i know that have voluntarily left and they're sitting in mexico and their spouses are all here. >> bill: under this legislation then, you're married, right? >> i am, yes. >> bill: so then you will be able to, under this legislation i think your husband will be able to come back and you'll be able to reunite as a family and you should be able to.

>> caller: that's amazing. i haven't learned all about it. i try to educate myself about it. but it would be amazing if there was a way for him to be able to come back because it has been tough. >> bill: well, yeah. you're here. i think this legislation is part of it. it is designed just for families like you which by the way republican party supposed to be the -- supposed to be the family -- all for families, the family values party. they should be for this. making sure that you guys can get back together. i think you will under this legislation, bethany. so let's hope that we can get something done in the house. keep your fingers crossed. hope it works out for you. thank you for your call. greenville. peter, you know greenville. >> i know greenville. we don't call it greenville. it's greenville. >> bill: going through there this weekend? >> no. i won't be going through greenville. it is a little more upstate.

>> bill: rose is in ligonier maine. >> caller: this is a very red state. >> bill: oh, yes. >> bill: joe donnelly, good democrat there. >> caller: i voted for him. he was in our district. but within a country a half-mile, you go either way. we have a black family. we have a spanish family. we have amish and they refer to us whites as english. [ laughter ] i wanted something though -- a little more teeth than they did in '86 but i don't think that one, the guards they're putting at the border. all of that is ridiculous because we could be putting that

money to construction projects in case we haven't noticed, our roads, bridges crumbling falling in to rivers, whatever. also, the social security from 4 to 14 is wrong. those people who did this legally and jumped the hoops they're taking that from them. >> bill: listen, i'm really with you on the -- particularly on the border security part of this thing rose. it is crazy. president obama has doubled the number of agents that we have at the border, right? and right now we have twice as many agents at the border as we did under george w. bush. and for a variety of reasons part of it, the economy and also part of it because the obama administration is throwing people out so fast, sending people back in such great numbers. the flow across the border as

we're speaking is actually negative, not positive. there are more people going south than there are coming north right now. and yet we're still going to double again the number of border agents. doesn't make any sense. we'll go down to a big border state. texas. and find out what the hell is up with rick perry. rick slater joins us next. >> announcer: radio meets television. the "bill press show." now on current tv.

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minorities and yet here they are, leading the charge against immigration reform. not all republicans, some republican support. some refuse to sign on. they also said they have to reach out to women do a better job of attracting women voters and yet, last week, the house of representatives passing the most restrictive limits on abortion in over a decade. and they tried to do even worse than that down in texas by shutting down a lot of abortion clinics. whereupon was born a new political rock star. senator wendy davis. wayne slater knows politics in general and certainly texas politics better than anybody alive. senior political writer for the "dallas morning news," good friend up early this morning down in grapevine texas. >> caller: it is great to be with you. i'm at least with the national right to life people. the last week, i spent a lot of time with republicans and democrats, especially in this state. you gotta think the democrats

look at what you just said, they say to themselves, you know, i can't believe we're getting beat by these guys. >> bill: i know. or they might say hey you know, maybe we got a chance after all to bring texas back, right? first of all i with a tonight get to what rick perry said. tell us about this wendy davis. who is she. i must have covered her for a long time. >> yeah, i have. well, not that long. she's relatively new. at least on the state scene. i have long seen her when i say long, i mean the last five, six seven years seen her as sort of -- she and the castro brothers, julian and joaquin from san antonio and a couple of others as the top of the block when it comes to democratic party. if and when the time comes that they began to win statewide offices again. as you know, democrat is not statewide office in texas since 1994. she's extraordinarily bright.

she has quite a presence. i remember she's very good at turning moments -- metaphors into moments. i think it was the last legislative session when a male senator, her first session as a senator, when a male colleague a republican sort of acted condescendingly to her on the floor by saying i'm sorry i can't hear the voices of women. he meant she was speaking too softly for him to hear but obviously that was not what you want to say because it reinforced the idea we don't really hear these women these girls talking on the floor. >> bill: yeah. so after her filibuster the other night very successful even though they called her out on a technicality, right prevented the bill from becoming law. rick perry yesterday speaking -- i guess you were there for the speech, right? >> absolutely. >> bill: we want our viewers

and listeners to hear rick perry went out on a personal attack against wendy davis. here he is. >> who are we to say that children born be in the worst of circumstances can't grow to live successful lives? in fact, even the woman who filibustered the senate the other day was born into difficult circumstances. she was the daughter of a single woman. she was a teenage mother herself. she managed to eventually graduate from harvard law school. and serve in the texas senate. it's just unfortunate that she hasn't learned from her own example that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential and that every life matters. >> bill: i don't know. you and i have been around a long time. i don't remember hearing many personal attacks like that. >> the key here -- and you know it bill -- the key is that men especially in a state like texas

but nationally, men against women on a campaign can fight really hard. if you are dealing with your opponent as an equal if you're talking about issues. if you're challenging their positions and their standing with some sense of respect without trivializing or seeming to condescend, then fine. i was here in 1990 when clayton williams challenged ann richards. he said a number of things but the really devastating thing was that he seemed to be condescending and to trivialize, diminish this girl, this female candidate. there was a bit of that in rick perry's comments. i don't know why he did it. he just lowered himself -- reduced himself and elevated her. >> the modern term that's come around here lately is man-splaining, look, little lady, let me tell you what's going on here.

>> bill: perry has called them back into session on monday to deal with this? what's going to happen? >> it will probably pass. it is one of these things where they have the votes. they have the rules. they have the leadership. they should have been able to do this during the first regular -- first special session 30 days. but they -- they did not. for a combination of reasons including this enormous people's citizens filibuster. this outpouring of thousands and thousands of texans who slow things down. that's going to be very difficult over 30 days, i suspect that the bill will pass. it will further add abortion restrictions to a state that has a lot of abortion restrictions but what it also will do, i think, is give democrats and opponents of this a real narrative about the war against women that will help in future elections. >> bill: i was just going to say in about 30 seconds, they may go in the short term but

this could come back and bite them in the butt in the long-term. >> wonder if rick perry may be the best thing that battleground texas have going for them. >> bill: absolutely. oh, my god. it is always fun down there in texas. wayne slater. i envy you sometimes being right in the middle of it. we're just glad you're there so we can check in with you. thanks wayne, so much. >> great to be with you. >> bill: wayne slater, senior political writer for the "dallas morning news," wrote that great book about karl rove called push his brain. >> announcer: on your radio and on current tv, this is the "bill press show."

>> announcer: take your e-mails on any topic at any time, this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: all right. how about it. karl frisch is here as a "friend of bill" in the next hour. we'll be joined by congressman chris van hollen on immigration reform. paul says -- and on the supreme court in general this week from the republican perspective they're going back to plan a rigging elections. after the supreme court decision. they're going to try their election rigging one more time, unencumbered by the voting rights act. if election rigging fails this time, then they'll have to take it more seriously. i think you're absolutely right. the voting right decision of the supreme court is a green light for them to try to suppress the vote any way they can.

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lights went out. try to behave today. >> i will try. i think i kicked the plug on the way in. >> bill: making sure you're not sitting here with a light switch. >> bill: you're here with the team. javon paris is filling in for alichia cruz. this is a big week. >> all kinds of news. >> i'm exhausted. >> on tuesday night, i was minding my own business when i heard a filibuster was happening in texas. i ended up watching that until 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning. i was up at 6:00 a.m. i don't know how you guys do this every day. >> bill: we don't stay up until 3:00 a.m. >> we drink.

>> i would have to go to bed until 6:00. >> i was at the supreme court by 7:30. two hours of sleep. and then standing in the hot sun. in the heat. for you know, four hours waiting. >> it is not the heat -- >> bill: he's here this morning. with all of the news -- >> we should have made him come in earlier. >> bill: filibuster in texas the supreme court on three different issues, comprehensive immigration reform. maybe the biggest news of the week is we now know how tourists going into space will be able to pay their bills. pay pal actually, yesterday opened up a new service for paying bills from outer space. >> pay pal galactic. buzz aldrin, former astronaut is their spokesman. >> whether it is paying a bill or even helping a family member on earth will need access to money, finances.

>> catheter machines. >> bill: you know, it just seems to me there are other obstacles between now and getting tourists on -- >> good for figuring out how you're going to pay your phone bill. i feel good for buzz aldrin having a job. it was not that long ago he tried to launch the medical life alert bracelet in space. you don't have to get back up because you're not really falling -- gravity buzz. there's no gravity, buzz. >> bill: all of the obstacles between today and tourists. >> bill, creditors can get you anywhere. your credit card company will find a way to get their bills paid. >> bill: the pay pal account would not be the top of my list. i don't think so. how about a rocket that could get you there? >> bowie's song -- crowd control pay pal.com. [ laughter ]

>> check credit balance. >> bill: here we go. lots to cover. >> copyright karl frisch. >> bill: copyright that real fast. chris van hollen will be joining karl and me in studio later in this hour. bring us up to date on what's not happening in the house of representatives. karl frisch here for the entire hour as a "friend of bill." in the next hour, we'll be taking a look at whatever happened to dick armey and freedom works. they disappear. not fast enough as far as i'm concerned. we'll get right to the issues of the day. but first dan what have you got? >> quick check of other headlines making news. producers of the hit emmy award winning show "modern family" say that because of this week's supreme court ruling on same-sex marriage they are considering having the characters mitch and cam made by eric stonestreet and jesse tiger ferguson to get married. the show has been given a lot of

credit for bringing lgbt issues to the forefront. >> i'm glad that they waited, a fictional couple waited for a legal ruling to happen. >> bill: you're going to see a lot of this, don't you think? there will be a lot of -- >> like you're 22 again and all of your friends are getting married. you thought you were done looking at wedding registries on the internet. now all your 40, 50, and 6 o-year-old get gay friends will get interested. wait until you see the registries. we're making up for lost time. aston martin anyone? >> facebook is posting wedding albums. now everybody's getting on that. >> not only is the white house on instagram now so is michelle obama. the first lady's office started a personal account for her yesterday. her first instagram picture was of her and daughter malia with

school children over in africa followed by several others from the trip. you can follow her at michelleobama. >> bill: we're on instagram right? where are we? >> look for bill press on instagram. >> i actually just -- >> bill: karl, you're at instagram. >> i tagged a behind the scenes "bill press show" video on instagram. >> we're "bill press show," all one word. >> bill: okay. you sent out a video? >> from behind the scenes. >> bill: what are you telling? >> you were in the middle of doing your job. >> bill: are you going to tell us about martha stewart or not? >> she found a love on match.com? >> bill: you're not? i keep waiting to hear. >> what? about her threesome? >> bill: yeah, about her threesome. >> i didn't have that on the list. it is a little early for that. you go ahead bill. >> bill: no.

i want to know. in the next hour, will you tell us about martha? >> final story for this hour is could be an awkward set-up. jeb bush set to present an award for public service and advocacy efforts to hillary clinton. thrill reports he'll do so as chair of the national constitution center in the fall giving the 2013 liberty medal to hillary. the first time the two potential 2016 contenders will be on stage together. >> wonder what that's going to be like. >> he's not a bad guy. he won't say nasty things about hillary clinton. >> he's in close proximity to the latin-american community his wife, after all, that might be far enough for the republicans to be able to stomach it. they're realizing marco rubio has nonanglo heritage. >> bill: by the way he's a guy, let's start right there

right. here's the savior of the republican party. two or three months ago cover of "time" magazine. and now they're trashing him. because he dared do what the republican party has got to do which is reach out to the latino community and take a stand on qhfs immigration. not that i'm crazy about that bill. he's getting killed by -- >> republican thinks that it is a good idea to play general election politics when he's going to face a primary, if he does run. secondly, i think it's hard to sway the tea party when, for the last six months, you've been teaching geography lessons to house republicans. cuba is different than mexico. mexico is different than cuba. but he's still got to deal with the republicans in the house. they're bigoted. i'm reminded of a story. we're both in california. maldonado was a state legislator from california and did he a poll. he's from the central valley to find out if he could win a

statewide primary as a republican. and he put his name on the ballot for secretary of state or something or in the poll. against three fictional republican candidates, you know, made up people. and he -- because of his surname surname -- >> bill: maldonado -- >> he could not win in a simple poll. it was simply because he was hispanic. this is a big problem for the republican party. >> bill: this was their opportunity to fix it. some republicans saw. the line was republicans want it and need it. but the dumb tea partiers don't feel they need it and don't want -- aren't going to let it happen. >> it is a little bit of that. i don't think it would actually fix things with the latino community. >> bill: in and of itself.

>> cultural change has to happen. in the same sense you heard republicans with their 2.0 and 3.0 rebranding efforts trying to say that they just needed to speak more to these communities. it's not so much that you're talking or not talking to them. it is what you're saying to them. and when you go like rand paul going to howard college howard university and lecturing them about who the civil rights icons are and did you know they were republican. gee, rand, did you know the republican party was different when they were republicans? doing that kind of thing, it is not the message -- not the messenger that is the problem. it is the message and simply passing immigration reform and by the way the compromise is not great. it is much better than what we've got currently. all of the things we've done to get republicans to support it shows you what republicans think about people of color immigrants in this country. >> bill: right. in the end only 14 republicans

have voted for it, right. >> did you look at the map? southerners. lamar alexander from tennessee. bob corker from tennessee. you're not even in the deep south there. and then john mccain's committed life partner lindsey graham. >> bill: john boehner says what senate bill. particularly the doma decision and the prop 8 decision. give us, as a gay man what this means. how important is it? >> i don't think it's possible for heterosexual people to understand what it's like growing up and never contemplating the idea that i would one day get married. it is not even on the radar. every kid thinks i'm going to grow up and go to college get a job, have a wife or husband and have kids and have a family. for gay people of my generation,

it was all of that except for get married, have a family. it wasn't even something you said oh, shucks, they won't let me do that. you didn't think about it. >> bill: not part of your -- >> media being representative of that kind of a life. so yeah, it is great for today. for all of the people that want to get married and want it to have their relationships recognized by the federal -- obviously there's 38 more states we have to get marriage equality in for that to matter. but the real lasting impact is what it's going to do for the gay kid being born tomorrow. you know. they're never going to grow up in a time where that's not an option for them. for the rest of their life, they're going to see their life as full potential of the american dream of every aspect of being a human being. >> bill: very big point. >> really, really big point. and at the speed that all of this has moved, it is not like

even the last generation viewed this as an option. it basically starts now. >> well, you know, i think -- two years ago, three years ago i would have said in 15 years' time, we'll have marriage equality across america. i think in two years every state that we can probably quickly get it through will have happened illinois, hawaii, nevada. you guys have talked about what's likely to happen. >> bill: you cannot read anthony kennedy's decision and leave 37 states going the other way. >> here's why they're going to do it. remember loving virginia. there was only a smattering of states that didn't allow interracial americans at that time and that's why the supreme court stepped in and said -- southern states, come on. we won't be in that position when the court decides that marriage equality needs to be the law of the land.

because you'll have 30 some odd states. right now, it is 30. that have constitutional bans on marriage equality. and each one of those states, it depends on what the rules are there for reversing that, just as an example nevada, not only does have the legislature have to pass it in one session but they have to return and pass it in the next session. then in the next statewide election, voters have to remove it. that's one example for 30 states having to do that. the supreme court is not going to say gay people have to wait for 20 years because they know the reality is, i guarantee, we haven't seen this yet but on monday we'll have a smattering of polling that indicates after the supreme court decision that american equality is let's say 5% to 7% more popular. then we're approaching 60%. that's just within -- we've probably gone from 48 to the high 50s in a matter of two, two and a half years. my bet is by the time the supreme court reconsiders this 2/3 of the country will be supportive of marriage equality. we'll have marriage equality in

another five or six states. they won't have any reason. they'll have the legal language that they've already articulated in prop 8 cases and it will be the law of the land. >> bill: karl frisch as a "friend of bill" this hour. talking about the huge significance and impact of the supreme court's decision this week on the defense of marriage act. join the conversation at 1-866-55-press. on twitter at bpshow. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." for true stories. with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. real, gripping, current. documentaries... on current tv.

>> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing)

>> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv. >> bill: 26 minutes after the hour.

congressman chris van hollen, part of the leadership in the house of representatives, senior ranking democrat on the house budget committee in studio with us for the next half hour with us, meaning with all of you and with karl frisch from bullfight strategies. as a "friend of bill." peter, what's happening on the social media world. >> we're tweeting at bp show. cyprian bowlding's great smile. >> bill: come on. >> i'm telling you. >> he's not even the fourth hottest. >> bill: i was just saying that, you know, in a sense don't take this the wrong way, i was glad novack was dead because if he was alive and he came in ahead of me in that ranking, he would have been calling me guess what! i'm ahead of you! >> there we go.

cyprian. don says congratulations karl on the big vote. and kicking the cigarette habit. >> i'm trying to get as much freedom as possible these days. [ laughter ] >> freedom to do what i want with my sexual orientation, get married one day and freedom from nicotine. i'm what they call smober. >> bill: how long? >> well, my phone is off but i could give you the exact count to the second. >> not that you're counting. >> mondays at 2:30 is my weekly anniversary. monday at 2:30 will be four weeks. >> bill: you gotta get it through this weekend dude. >> i've made it through three other weekends. >> stop! you're putting the pressure on him. jesus, bill! >> it's all your fault bill! [ laughter ] >> bill: i want you to succeed! >> i'm not a smoker. >> bill: all right.

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site goiam.org. karl frisch is here as a "friend of bill" this entire hour from the bullfight strategies. and congos home today for the big, long july 4th break. here to tell us all that congress has achieved in the last week, all the hard work they did before they take their july 4th break the ranking democrat on the house budget committee, part of the democratic leadership, congressman chris van hollen. always good to see you. >> i'm going to give you the silent treatment in response to that. what can you tell you? pretty sad. especially in the house. obviously the senate's been working. >> rename a post office for ronald reagan or something. >> bill: i have to ask you about the post offices it seems to me we must be renaming post offices. have we gone through every post office you can possibly name already? >> we want to make sure we make

as many people as possible feel good. when you rename them after new people, it gives everybody an opportunity to cycle through. you're right. it is absurd we're doing that when there are so many other important issues to deal with. >> bill: the senate did last night, pass comprehensive immigration reform by a vote of 68-32. even before they took that vote, congressman, speaker john boehner didn't show much promise for what might happen in the house. here he is. >> apparently some haven't gotten the message. the house is not going to take up and vote on whatever the senate passes. >> bill: now seems to me the one who didn't get the message here might be be speaker john boehner. >> yeah. there's some tsunami about to come down on the house of representatives and these guys are whistling along. it was a great day in the senate. big bipartisan vote. the speaker made the comment you just played. he also said -- and this was the

really bad news yesterday, he said very specifically that even if there was a conference report on immigration reform, that somehow could be put together, that unless that had a majority of the house republicans, he wouldn't allow it to come up. >> bill: taking the hastert rule and expanded it. >> he's saying even if the house passes its own bad bill, which they seem to be on track to doing and then you were to go to conference with the senate, that the final product would not even get a vote on the floor of the house unless a majority republican support. so that was a really unfortunate bad statement we heard out of the speaker yesterday. it is hard to see how you get comprehensive immigration reform under those rules. you should allow the people's house to work its will. >> how much of this -- at the beginning of this congress, it was nothing but embarrassment for speaker boehner when he would bring a vote up and then not be able to put it together. >> bill: like the farm bill. >> then finally, i can't remember if it was the debt

ceiling or something else but him allowing a vote because he knew that democrats plus republicans would get something through. how much of him not wanting to do anything is a result of him not wanting to be embarrassed again? some personal risks for his speakership for the good of the country. frankly for the good of the national republican party. because these individual republican house members do not have the interests of the national republican party obviously at heart. clearly they don't appear on this issue to have the national interest at heart. so that is a beg question. the one thing speaker boehner has going for him in terms of being able to take that risk is there's no clear alternative to speaker boehner on the republican side who would do

anything different. more differently than speaker boehner. so we'll have to see what he decides. >> bill: there is the theory however that you know, a lot of republicans are saying -- you just alluded to it, look, we got our ass kicked in 2012. 71% of the vote of the latinos went to president obama. the beginning of that would be to support comprehensive immigration reform if we're ever going to get the white house back. john mccain basically has said we'll never get the white house back. i think lindsey graham made that statement, unless we are for this immigration reform, right? >> they have. so, you know, the clearer headed members of their party fewer and fewer every day -- recognize that it is an imperative for them to reach out to the latino -- >> bill: but the theory i've heard is john boehner only cares about 2014 and holding on to the house and his reading is that with the tea partiers,

particularly, comprehensive immigration reform would be what hurt their chances in 2014. >> no doubt that speaker boehner's priority, i think is 2014. even if that sets back the republican party in presidential elections, in the next election and beyond. but i think people are going to have to prevail upon him number one, to say they've got an interest in some of the statewide senatorial races as well as the white house in 2016. look i also think that latino voters can get much more mobilized and motivated in 2014 than they otherwise would be if republicans continue to look at the path -- >> bill: as we sit here this morning, congressman, do you believe there will be a comprehensive immigration reform bill passed and signed into law this year? >> i believe -- i still think

there's a slightly better than 50% chance. i'm getting more and more pessimistic in the sense if you had asked me this about a month ago, i thought we were on a trajectory to say -- the odds are going in the other direction. it comes down to the question we're discussion. i do not see how you pass comprehensive immigration reform where the condition is a majority of house republicans have to support it. because the majority of house republicans oppose comprehensive immigration reform. and so that's why yesterday's statement by the speaker was so troubling. >> bill: if you had an open vote, if you had a vote, it would pass. >> it is really important -- if we had an open vote on the senate bill, it would pass like a -- >> bill: with republican votes. >> with enough. we would get an overwhelming democratic vote. 200 democratic votes at least so then you need 18 republican

votes, yes, we would definitely get 18 republican votes. >> probably would have been a cleaner bill because it would have passed the senate if it was an up-or-down vote with less of the sweeteners we had to offer the republicans. i heard that gohmert not content with the surge at the border putting more troops down there wants to build a dome over the country to keep people out. >> if we can get a dome built he will be on board. >> the moats and alligators and things. really, we could actually get it done today. >> bill: yeah. the bill comes over today. call a vote. go home. >> bill: congressman chris van hollen here in studio with us with karl frisch this half hour. congressman, speaking about getting things done, july 1 is monday. the rate on federal student loans doubles on monday from 3.4% to 6.8%. we've been saying we'll double unless congress acts. expecting congress to act.

congress will go home today and act before it does? >> i'm afraid the answer is no. in the house -- >> bill: unbelievable. >> it is unbelievable. we democrats have had what's called a discharge petition which says, you know, sign this so that the speaker will at least take up the bill that we proposed for a vote in the house of representatives. our bill would prevent the doubling of the interest rate. 6.8%. in the house you know, in the senate, there have been a number of proposals. compromise proposals will be worked out here. just the other day republicans in this case, in the senate, rejected a compromise proposal over there. so they're all going home. packing their bags. >> bill: are there any votes scheduled today? >> no, not on this. not on the student loan issue. the senate because they were unable to get the republicans to agree to the compromise, they've

not -- they got the immigration reform bill passed. they asked for republican help in trying to put together this compromise package on student loans but they didn't get it. >> bill: i don't know what the number is whether it is four million or five million. i don't know how congress can look them in the eye and say i'm sorry, we have more important things to do. we have to go home for july 4. we don't care that you're going to graduate this year. the average with 35 $35,200 average in student loan debt. the interest rate is going to double. they're going to say basically -- good-bye. >> congressman joe courtney from connecticut has this piece of legislation in the house. we have a huge number of democrats who have signed this discharge petition. this petition is simply a vehicle to try to get the speaker to hold a vote on it. you don't like this mr. speaker vote against it. but at least allow the house to work its will.

same kind of issue talking about immigration reform. they refuse to bring up these common sense solutions unless a majority of the republican members support it even though we would get a majority of the whole house. in support of our proposal to stop it. they're saying is you're going to come back after july 4th and then -- after -- and work -- you know, retroactively. but you know what? in the meantime, you're leaving students hanging. >> bizarre issues, like they're ostriches sticking their heads in the sand. you've got the student loans and it is like middle finger to the young people. for them to hear what they said about doma. >> not to mention the abortion restriction. >> i know. for the republican party who said they're going to be retooling and you know rethinking some of their

positions. it turns out they just -- >> bill: congressman chris van hollen and karl frisch here. you're welcome to join the conversation at 1-866-55-press. here on the friday edition of the "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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big smiles on our faces as we head into the weekend. congos into about a 10-day july 4 break. congressman chris van hollen ranking democrat on the house budget committee in studio with us with karl frisch from bullfight strategies. congressman, the last time you were in, the last two times, i think, we talked about your call to appoint a conference committee in the house so they can at least work toward a budget. is that also on -- still on the list of unfinished business or what? >> look, the economy's gotten a little better but it is still nowhere near where it should be. we've got the sequestration that's creating a drag on the economy. disruptions in head start programs and all of this. so we're saying hey let's at least get together and work it out. we put together a plan to replace the sequester to get rid of the sequester. if you don't like our plan, come to the table and talk about getting a budget for three

years. for three years. what was the number one republican talking point? the senate didn't get a budget. well, this monday, it will be 100 days since the senate passed a budget. and despite our efforts republicans refuse to take the next step to actually get a budget. so they said no budget. no pay. remember no budget, no pay. guess what. guess what. they're getting paid right now. they're blocking our efforts to get a -- obviously you like the talking point a lot more than a budget. >> bill: no budget committee. >> we're not waiting for you guys any longer. she appointed conferees. >> members of the democratic budget committee in the house staying ready as conferees appointed by leader pelosi to negotiate with our republican friends. in the senate, harry reid and patty murray have tried 11 times

now to get unanimous consent to appoint senate conferees. they've been blocked every turn by senate republicans. even john mccain, you might have seen it. he was pretty blunt about it. he said that it was quote "in sane" and incomprehensible for republicans to be blocking progress on a budget when they made such a big deal about this for the last three years. >> bill: you kind of called their bluff. >> that's right. >> bill: all of the talk about budget. >> so our members are going to go home over this break and point out that, you know, we're continuing to stand ready to actually do what the republicans said they wanted to do which is get a budget to resolve these issues because at route, it is not just about numbers. it is about the economy and getting rid of the uncertainty and helping put more people back to work. >> bill: finally, i have to ask you about blag. i don't know about blag until

yesterday. the bipartisan legislative action or advisory group or whatever. so the defense of marriage act was defended in the supreme court only by house republicans under blag. they spent $23 million. we taxpayers spent $23 million defending doma when the department of justice wouldn't, the obama administration, nobody else would. there's no way to stop that in the house? how did boehner get away with spending that much money? >> this is when you get passed up that -- past stuff that only the republicans agree to. this is stuff the republicans agreed to in the house. obviously we thought it was a total misuse of taxpayer dollars. as we were joking in the break we think republicans in this case should live by their rule that they like to apply to other court cases which is loser pays. and you know what? take it out of their own pocket.

>> let the national republican -- >> i suppose so. why should the taxpayer -- >> exactly. foot the bill for this. >> barney frank yesterday said we all owe john boehner a lot of credit because they did such a lousy job defending doma. >> you know what they got for $23 million. this argument. this was the only new thing brought to the defense of marriage act. straight people can have accidental babies and that's why gay people shouldn't marry. that's the only new argument they came up with for $23 million. i'll give them arguments for that. >> i was going to say -- [ laughter ] obviously they didn't get their money's worth. or i should say our money's worth. in which they spend. it is another example of the extremist politics and the house of representatives driving the agenda. speak her put out this $23 million. >> bill: wasted money. congressman, thank you so much for coming in this morning.

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armey from texas. luke mullen's a reporter for the washingtonian magazine in studio with us to tell us about it. >> thanks for having me. >> bill: get a little closer to that microphone there. kiss the microphone. good to have you here. >> thank you. >> bill: from the washingtononian washington, d.c. institution. >> i'm excited for the next issue. the annual best of issue. best of washington. >> exactly. >> that's the one you put out in my mind. >> bill: that's the one -- i may be best known for. i actually did a profile once for the washingtonian of gene mccarthy. check your -- >> i'll do it. >> bill: last night the president is on an official state visit to africa ending up in senegal -- ending his visit to senegal and moving on to south africa. and jay leno had a little fun

with that last night about what the president is doing down there. >> president obama is currently on a week-long trip to africa. promote freedom democracy and economic opportunity. i guess he figured it hasn't worked out here so we'll try it somewhere else. see if it works somewhere else. try it somewhere else. >> bill: leave it to jay leno. he did recognize also the supreme court's movement this week on the defense of marriage act. >> while the supreme court struck down the defense of marriage act because the obama administration and the justice department refused to defend it in court. so it was up to the house of representatives to defend it. you can see why they lost. a bunch of congressmen defending marriage, huh? like mad dog 2020 defending alcoholics anonymous, it's not gonna happen. >> bill: by the way, as we talked in the last hour, john boehner and house republicans spent $23 million defending

legislation that not even bill clinton defended any longer, right? nobody defending except john boehner and house republicans. they spent $23 million and obviously did a pretty lousy job at it. right? they could have hired better lawyer for less. one would think. anyhow, luke mullen is with us to talk about the tea party. chris johnson from the blade is going to be joining us to talk about the supreme court's big move on defense of marriage. we'll get right to it. but first -- >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> quick check of other headlines making news. in sports, a couple of surprises in the nba draft last night including the very first pick the cleveland cavaliers took unlv power forward anthony bennett. orlando magic had the second pick taking shooting guard victor olipido. from indiana. and -- >> i wasn't even going to help you out.

>> i had it because i actually practiced it this morning. >> i wouldn't admit that if i were you. >> three times. >> bill: i would have said -- >> georgetown starting forward otto porter jr. will not have to move. he's staying in washington. third pick. he went to the washington wizards. and peter ogborn, san antonio spurs -- peter ogborn's san antonio spurs -- >> i think they picked 28th. >> they took a player from french guyana. olivier john charles. >> spurs have that foreign farm system worked out. they get a lot of good players. they don't draft big college players and they haven't since tim duncan. the wizards, they really i think are the winners of the draft. they've got two phenomenal guards already. wall and beale and now port. they'll an real deal team next

year assuming everyone stays healthy. >> martha stewart is no prude. the 71-year-old homemaker was asked about sexual preferences. in an interview on bravo this week. sitting next to actress maggie gyllenhaal, stewart agreed to participate in a game called did martha does it and nodded to the question of had she ever sexted using her phone, she said no to whether she had been with another woman in bed. but as to the question had she ever been in a threesome she responded "maybe." >> bill: now, wait a minute. you can't answer maybe to that question. you either were or you weren't. >> it is not like you can't be sure if you were or not. >> you either were or weren't. >> bill: unless you were really drunk. if they were in a threesome, it would have been with two men. >> that's true.

>> detective reasoning there -- deductive reasoning there well done. >> bill: martha, we hardly knew you. >> they say there's no such thing as bad publicity. >> bill: i think better of her now. >> even with all of the sponsors dropping their support of paula deen following her admitting to using racial slurs -- >> i bet butter would be -- >> what? >> i'm done. >> bill: i think it is good to stop right there. >> you're right. >> bill: luke mullen, serious reporter here. >> poor luke. sorry, man. >> bill: on a friday morning. little did you know what you were walking into, right? i remember when dick armey was a real power in the house of representatives. as minority leader or whip or whatever majority leader.

then he went on -- he left congress to start this group freedom works which again is a real power. dick armey more than anybody else, would you agree who is responsible for the creation of the tea party? >> well, he certainly was very -- as much as any one figure helped make the tea party sort of what it became and you know, i feel like -- there were basically three parts -- three components to the creation of the tea party. one was genuine grassroots anger. two was the conservative media establishment and the third were these washington-based groups that helped organize these protests and you know, gave interviews and just really kind of boosted the profile and really gave a sense of kind of shared identity to those groups. freedom works and dick armey specifically became the face of the tea party.

>> bill: i wrote a lot about them in my last book, "the obama hate machine," and that's why people were calling it hey this isn't grassroots. this is astroturf. >> so there's certainly a component of that. and the tea party -- what i would say is groups like freedom works, i don't believe they actually created the tea party. but i believe they amplified the tea party. they created the tea party as we know it. >> bill: maybe it would be more correct to say they saw that what was happening, right, and they said here's an opportunity, right? >> absolutely. if you look at what freedom works, itself, for about a decade before the tea party came into being, they were using a lot of the exact same language, they were essentially trying to create the tea party on their own. they failed. they tried. they would have these rallies at tax day rallies at post offices, nobody would show up.

they had this web site and this is the predecessor to freedom works, had this web site called u.s.a. tea party.com. you could go on there and play these video games where you were dumping chests of tea into boston harbor. tom daschle was there. he was a figure in the game with red coat. the exact same language. but freedom works and dick armey was the public face and you know, they spent a lot of time trying to create the tea party. they failed but when the actual -- when there was some -- when there was essentially a market for the tea party, they were right there. they had their apparatus on the ground and they were able to run with it. >> bill: they did everything from hiring buses to bring people to these rallies to sending out information about here's where these congressional town halls are being held. here's where you ought to show up. here's what you do. here's what you say. here's how to deal with the media. here's how to interrupt.

>> one of the big things that -- >> bill: they had it down. >> one of the things freedom works did was right after the rick santelli ran, they put this web site out called i am with rick. so people that were googling around -- because that connected with a lot of people. and so freedom works was flooded with calls and they right away, they were really nimble and right away, they created the documents like how to create your own tea party rally. they got very granular in terms of -- they would suggest slogans for signs that people could use. they would -- they created templates for press releases. a lot of these were mom and pop. they were not political people. and you know a lot of them were very sincere. most of them were pretty sincere. freedom works was there to teach them how to be activists and amplify their voices. >> bill: and then, as we go along, riding high, dick armey

suddenly has a big fight with the leadership of freedom works and he's out the door. so what happened to army? >> basically what happened is there are two central players. armey is a measure of freedom works. there was another guy who was a behind the scenes strategist. he had worked for the rnc. he worked for -- he worked for the chief of staff and in congress. then he worked for citizens for sound economy which is the predecessor -- citizens for sound -- is the koch group. >> bill: he comes out of the koch brothers. >> right. they split with the kochs and kibe and armey go on to found freedom works. it is kibbie and armey and they spend -- years trying to essentially create the tea party. again, they failed in doing that. when the tea party came along

they capitalized on it. when they're riding high, a couple of things happened. one is armey inside freedom works, people start to get concerned about armey going off message and wandering. armey is a pretty charismatic guy. he talks. just from the hip. there was a famous thing that he said walsh at salon where he said some pretty sexist things to her. he said i'm glad you're not my wife so i wouldn't have to listen to your the prattle. he said it on hardball. >> women love that by the way. oh yeah. >> that got some traction on the internet. it worked to discredit not only freedom works but also the tea party movement in general. there were some other things where armey was rambling. at the same time, he's 70 years old. not getting any younger. this organization which had -- they couldn't get ten people to

come to a tax-day protest. now, they're blown -- they've got two million -- and so they're like wow, this is our time. and they began to see armey as a liability because they could see him as kind of a loose canon potentially. so inside the organization, you know, there were some other guys that said hey, we've got to start promoting matt kibbie as the face of the organization. he's a little bit younger and had been this sort of -- just this economist person. there was also a lot of folks inside the organization that said matt kibbie's wife who was also -- she was a consultant, she had a consulting -- she also put pressure on matt to sort of -- to take the lead and kind of put armey in the background. >> bill: so armey is gone. >> right now yes. >> bill: can -- will the tea

party, will freedom works survive without dick armey? >> so, it is an open question but the reality of it is with these groups, so the big question is are they going to be able to raise enough money to survive? and you know they have the backing of some pretty wealthy donors and when you have millionaire donors, it doesn't take much money to -- freedom works sort of at its peak was a $40 million organization which is pretty large. i mean for the 2012 election cycle, they were one of -- they had about -- their super pac spent this sixth most of any super pac on the republican side. >> bill: let's hold it right there. take a quick break. luke mullen is here to talk more about freedom works the tea party. dick armey used to talk about going bass fishing a lot.

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this show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well.

not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right? >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: here we go. 26 minutes after the hour here. luke mullen from the washingtonian magazine in here. latest issue about dick armey -- article rather about dick armey former member be of congress from texas. until recently, head of freedom

works. very instrumental in the development of the tea party. peter, what's on social media? >> we're on twitter at bpshow. we did tweet out a link to that article. if you want to read the whole thing, it is a great piece. we've got a link up there. at bpshow. you can read it there. m zotti says the g.o.p. these days seems to stand for gall a plenty. >> bill: did you talk to armey as part of the article? what did he say he's going to do? >> he says a couple of things. he says that he won't tell me who but he's been meeting with -- he says federal elected officials. he says he's been approached by some groups. he also says he's talking about writing a book. but he also says he does not want to come back to washington full time. he was very bitter about how all of this ended up.

>> bill: he must have made a lot of money from this group right? >> he got an $8 million severance package. >> god! >> that's from the -- not from the group but from the group's biggest donor. they essentially gave him -- $40,000 a year over 20 years. one of the things he was saying was i can't retire from the group because i don't have money. so they essentially financed his retirement. >> bill: a little $8 million golden parachute. >> exactly. >> bill: we don't have to feel sorry for dick armey. somehow, i think the tea party will survive without dick armey. great of you to do this. appreciate it. thanks for coming in this morning. minutes we're going to do the young turks! i think the number 1 thing than viewers like about

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the vote was 68-32. chuck schumer at one time who put together the gang of 8 predicted they would get 70 plus votes. almost made it. good showing in the senate. surprising part is in the end despite all those amendments they made, despite all of the attempts they made to get more republicans on board and to make the bill worse frankly in order to line up republican votes, the best they could do was 68-32. vice president joe biden announcing the vote yesterday afternoon. >> the yeas for this bill are 68. the nays are 32. the bill, as amended is passed. >> bill: boom. there goes the gavel. everybody was sort of celebrating. hey, we've got the gang of eight

got together. comprehensive immigration reform and a bipartisan fashion out of the senate. even note bill is not as good as it was when it left committee. still better than the present system. and heads over to the house. another time to start the celebration yet because john boehner -- he has a news conference yesterday morning before the vote has even been taken. before we even know what the final version of the senate bill is going to look like and john boehner already -- already puts out the word we're not even -- we're basically going to ignore it. >> currently the senate hasn't gotten the message. the house is not going to take up and vote on whatever the senate passes. >> bill: yeah. seems to me that there is one person who didn't get the message. the person who didn't get the message is john boehner. didn't get the message about what the american people want. didn't get the message about what the american people need.

and certainly didn't get the message about what the republican party needs. remember, all of this talk about the fact that hey in 2012, the republicans lost the white house. president obama was re-elected and one of the reasons is because obama got 71% of the latino vote, the fastest-growing demographic and the fastest-growing political force in the country today. and every republican, including the republican national committee's own report said we've got to do a better job of reaching out to minority voters, particularly reaching out to latino voters and we're going to do that by sponsoring comprehensive immigration reform. and here they get their chance and only 14 republicans voted for it. and john boehner says we're not even going to schedule a vote on it. in the house. lindsey graham said the republican party will never take the white house back.

no chance of getting the white house back unless they are seen as leading sponsors of comprehensive immigration reform. i guess if lindsey graham is correct and i think he is, republicans have just blown their chance of ever winning back the white house. makes it easier for democratic candidate. something to cheer about. when we come back, the big news of the week of course is the supreme court's vote -- decisions rather on defense of marriage act on proposition 8 in california. chris johnson covers the white house for the blade. he will be in studio with us in the next segment to tell us all about it on the "full court press" friday morning. >> announcer: go mobile with bill press. download podcasts at billpressshow.com and listen any time anywhere. this is the "bill press show."

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>> announcer: connect with the "bill press show" on twitter. follow us at bpshow and tweet using the hashtag watching bp. this is the "bill press show." >> bill: here we go. 18 minutes now before the top of the hour on the "full court press" this friday morning. heading into the weekend. with a lot of celebration, this is gay pride weekend and many cities around the country it has been all month long. but some of the big celebrations this weekend they're going to be celebrating more than ever this weekend after the supreme court's decision, all americans actually should be. the supreme court striking down the defense of marriage act and

basically resuming, ordering the resumption or allowing the resumption of same-sex marriage in california which is where it all started under gavin newsom about six or seven years ago. chris johnson covers the white house for the blade. we hang out at the briefings together. nice to see you here at the studio. >> bill: do you agree with barney frank that the man who should get the credit for the doma decision is john boehner? >> he's the one who was defending the court. seems like that's the person who was -- i'm not quite sure about that. lot of lgbt advocates with this and the obama administration was defending -- i was helping with the litigation against the law. >> bill: barney was being ironic. a smart ass basically.

boehner spent $23 million and if we had someone maybe more effective, they might have persuaded the court otherwise. but it is just -- to me, hard to believe that 1996, that we went almost -- we went 17 years right with the law that says the federal government shall treat one group of people differently than other group of people. this is outright discrimination. it had to fall. >> oh, yeah. kennedy, said the defense of marriage act because it prohibits the federal recognition of legally recognized same-sex marriages that the states have decided should be legally recognized it is unconstitutional and violates the fifth amendment rights under the u.s. constitution. >> bill: what does it mean for gay couples in the real world? i mean like so what's going to be different for them now as a result of this ruling? >> this decision does not expand the doma decision. it does not expand -- what it means is the states who already

have same-sex marriage these couples will be able to have access to the benefits of marriage. >> bill: that's what i'm asking. what federal benefits? >> there are more than 1,000 of these benefits. among them are tax benefits, in the case of edie windsor. she had to pay $363,000 in estate taxes upon the death of her spouse because the law didn't recognize her marriage in new york. on top of that, if you're a federal employee and you're married to someone, you were not able to give benefits, health and pension benefits to your spouse. and that's going to be gone now. if you're in the military and you want to get your spouse on tricare, you couldn't do that because of doma. for immigration purposes, if you are someone who is in a relationship with a foreign national, someone from another country and you want to sponsor your spouse to stay permanently in the united states, before, you couldn't do that. you can do that now. it has a lot of practical impacts for married same-sex

couples. >> bill: the reason i want to ask you that is a lot of people don't recognize -- as you point out, there are over 1,000 benefits that straight couples take advantage of and don't think about. they just take it for granted that all married couples would have access to the same information. most striking thing i saw was a military couple, lesbian couple, the one partner is on active duty in iraq. and gets killed in action. the military doesn't notify her partner in this country. because they don't recognize that marriage. she obviously is not available for any spousal benefits or, you know, whatever that might -- military might provide to the straight husband and wife. and even at the funeral, she was not able to receive the flag that covered the coffin of her partner. or of her wife, right? just the cruelty.

and all of that is going to change in those states that recognize same-sex marriage. >> right. >> bill: it is huge. >> that said though, there is nothing -- ruling gets california's proposition 8. that restored -- that restored marriage equality to california. so there's going to be a big change. such a large state. there's a lot of big cities in california. more people getting married once that process for getting that -- just a matter of time for the ninth circuit to -- >> bill: california will be the 13th state plus the district of columbia by my count, what is the feeling in the lgbt community now about what's next? is it to roll back the clock -- get the other 30 states, 37 states up to the 21st century if you will? >> chad griffin out for the supreme court he declared we'll have marriage equality in all 50

states in five years. so i think that's a very ambitious goal. it will require -- probably a lawsuit for him to get there. but just getting american equality into 47 other states is the goal. there is an effort to do that. illinois is probably legislatively is probably the state that will happen next. legislative attention. some discussion to go to marriage in that state. but i mean, it is going to be a big process getting all of the states. a lot of them out there who had bans on marriage. >> bill: it will probably be, as you say take another lawsuit before the supreme court but it's almost as if the supreme court wouldn't have to work hard the next time around because they could take anthony kennedy's decision the way i've read it, and if you really follow the logic of his -- and the power of his writing and his

decision, for which they already have five votes there's no way that states could discriminate against same-sex couples. >> yeah, i think people think the value of opinion is important because of anthony kennedy's words and how the doma harmed the children of married same-sex couples and deprived them of a lot of crucial benefits. that's definitely -- that one ruling is going to be a good first step to any sort of subsequent lawsuit on the issue of american. >> bill: so i don't want to pry but so is this going to change your life? are you going to get married now? >> unfortunately i'm nowhere near that. >> don't put him on the spot of getting married. this is what straight people have had to endure forever. when are you going to get married? when are you going to get married? >> bill: my cousin, i love her to death lives on the eastern shore and i know she was waiting for doma to get repealed.

as soon as it happened, i e-mailed her and said are you going to get married? she said absolutely. she was driving down the road, she had to pull over, she was so excited, she couldn't drive. maryland has come out right and endorsed marriage equality. but even with that, you know, without doma, she felt that there were just too many things in their way. now that doma's out of the way you know, heading down the aisle. >> look, i'm super happy, this is great, this is wonderful. but i think that a lot of gay people will find out that american isn't so great. you know? it is nice that you have the ability to do it but it's not all that. >> bill: no comment. [ laughter ] we won't put you on the spot. when you have news, you can -- >> i'm just dating right now. i'm not quite there yet. if i had news, i would definitely -- >> why screw it up and get married. >> bill: you can share the good news with us when you have good news to report.

now, there is one other issue and you have raised this issue several times in the briefing. pending on two -- this would -- first of all nda is necessary why is it necessary? there is still a lot of discrimination in the workplace. >> in 29 states, you can fire someone for being gay. >> bill: 29 states, you can still get fired. >> 33 states, you can get fired for being transgender. this bill would stop employers from discriminating against employees based on their sexual orientation or gender identity. first version was introduced in the 1970s. significant drive to get it passed to the federal level. >> bill: so my understanding

then, the effort is two-fold to get congress to pass legislation and to get the obama -- president obama to sign an executive order for federal agencies right? or federal contractors. >> that pressure continues. if you talk to the white house they're very emphatic. they prefer a legislative approach. they want congress to pass legislation that will provide protection. >> bill: they prefer it. why won't the president just sign an executive order? >> that's like the million dollar question. i'm not quite so sure. i mean -- >> bill: the president who has done so much. first president came out for same-sex marriage. got rid of don't ask don't tell. would not defend the defense of marriage act. it seems to me it would be easy for president obama to sign this executive order. >> a lot of people share that view. it is something that advocates say is a campaign promise in 2008 he filled out a questionnaire response to an lgbt democratic group.

in houston, texas. saying he supports the idea a nondiscrimination policy for federal contractors. president has been out on the -- it has been out on the president's radar for quite some time. as to why they're doing it, i'm not sure. unilateral action, if you look at some other -- some other proposals before the administration they've rejected, too. million dollar coin is more gimmicky than what this is. >> bill: this is not gimmicky at all. >> this is definitely very important. has to be very substantive because there are estimates if you sound the executive order it would cover 16 million people in the work force. that has to do with -- the idea is that -- that's people who work for federal contractors. that's gay and straight. >> bill: but stale a huge amount -- but still a huge amount. chris, congratulations on doma. congratulations on prop 8. make a deal with you you keep the pressure on the administration at the briefings on enda and i've got your back,

okay? >> sounds good. >> bill: all right. chris johnson is with the "washington blade." it is washblade.com. you can follow chris on twitter at chrisjohnson 82. i will be back with today's parting shot. thanks chris. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." to doing anyway. staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them, right? vo: the war room monday to thursday at 6 eastern

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you know, student loan rates will double on monday from 3.4% to 6.8% unless congress acts but the fact is now we know congress will not act to block it because members of congress are going home today for a 10-day july 4 recess. we know what their priorities are. they can always find time to give millionaires another tax break. they can find time to repeal obamacare. 37 times. but they have no time for students. back in 1948, harry truman ran against a do-nothing congress but this is the most do-nothing congress ever! hey, folks, have a great weekend. look for you back here on monday.

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