>>policia. >>police! don't move! [all talking] >>ok, now let's get him cuffed. >>i'm working on it. i'm working on it. >>one at a time. one at a time. (adam)it's the most popular illegal drug in the us. 15 million americans say they've used one it in the last month. but there's a side to marijuana you haven't seen. >>their mexican ids.

>>they have ak-47s on your public lands. let me tell you that makes me mad. >>vamos aribe! (adam)in this special 2 part vanguard, i investigate who controls the marijuana trade. >>can you protect my family in mexico? 'cause our bosses are down there man. >>marijuana is by far the most significant factor in many of these mexican drug trafficking organizations. that is their baby. (adam)we see first hand how us law enforcement is fighting on the front lines of what increasingly looks like a true war on drugs. >>the money and weapons are fueling these violence issues in the border regions. from across the border in mexico. where a violent narco war rages to deep inside the california wilderness where a new front is opening up.

i join an elite group of investigators as they work to bring down mexican drug trafficking organizations. >>i got them in front of us, they're running. >>operating here in the us. >>when that marijuana is grown here in california and crosses state lines, the mark up is unbelievable. california bud right now is the marijuana that people are looking for. (adam)it's an early spring morning, and i'm heading out for a patrol in the mountains of northern california with mavmit, the mountain and valley marijuana investigation team. this new task force was created to do something that has never been done before. target the big criminal organizations that control most of the marijuana trade in the united states.

>>we do a lot of rural patrolling where we infiltrate drug trafficking organization cultivating marijuana. our overall goal is to dismantle these groups. through aerial reconnissance mavmit commander roy giorgi and his team have identified what they believe to be a large marijuana plantation several miles deep into the foothills of the sierra nevada mountains. so we are heading up this trail that snakes around the ridge and we are told that this is prime area for marijuana grows. increasingly the marijuana hitting the streets across the country is being grown here on california's public lands, where growers are heavily armed. >>almost all of the grows here in california these days involve assault weapons. so we have to be very cautious. mavmit's objective today: hike in and arrest the unsuspecting

growers and find out who they are working for. >>you can tell this path has been used. you can even see where they're sliding here. (adam)the agents believe they have found a trail used by the growers to bring up supplies and they will try to trace it back up to the grow. >>so everything we've been doing so far is nothing. now the steep climb begins. >>nothing to it. the team has coordinates from aerial surveillance, pin pointing the location of the grow site. and according to the gps, they

are very close. mavmit has finally reached the grow, it's early in the season and the plants are small but it's the grower's they're after. >> smell their campsite? policia! policia!

police department! come out of the tent! policia! bill. you ready? ready? >>what? >>camp is clear. tent's clear. (adam)in the case, the agents arrive too late. but with weapons still drawn they immediately begin looking for a secondary campsite on a nearby trail. >>how far out am i from you? >>ok, good, good. go ahead. >>found the hootch? ok, we'll move your way. is it up the trail?

>>stay with me close, don't run away from me. we have one. we have one. two. it might be more, so we got to be slow and look, look up. >> these guys look like they were just hunkered down for the rain. didn't hear the agents came when they did a little tent assault on them laying in their little bivwac area over here. so you got two hispanic male adults, non-english speaking. probably illegal aliens, unknown on weapons at this time.

>>remember the weapons have not been secured. >>five rounds. with a round like this, even our ballistic vests, it's gonna go through like butter. this also, you know, is accurate maybe within 500 yards out they'd have a clear shot. it's what we're dealing with out here in the field. (adam)these guys are low-level growers. but the key for mavmit is to find out who they are working for. >>this could be one of many grows for this group. they'll maintain contact about every two weeks, they have their cell phones, pick their supplies up, come right back and tend to their plants. they got their little calendar

going right now. >>so let's get these guys, move 'em down to the grow site and lets get 'em processed. (adam)this is just my first of many patrols over the course of an entire marijuana growing season, but it becomes immediately apparent why law enforcement is increasingly concerned about the marijuana grown in california. >>their mexican id's. these guys were put in by an organization. they're finding out this marijuana is one of the main driving forces financing, not just our local street gangs, but a lot of these mexican national organizations, their big financing is from the marijuana cultivation. >>the two guys who were here tending this grow said that

there are upwards of four thousand of these plants through out this grow site here. they look pretty benign. on the california market, this could fetch eight million dollars. on the east coast, it could go upwards of 12 million dollars. that's insane. >>i don't think there's any crop near the money that's being made from marijuana. it's the number one moneymaker, billions of dollars, i mean this industry is just huge. (adam)coming up, i head across the border to mexico, long the greatest producer of marijuana in the world. we're inside the tractor trailor full of these bricks of marijuana. estimated street value about 80-85 million us dollars. >> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians

laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv.

if you believe in state's rights but still support the drug war you must be high. >> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day.

>> do you think there is any chance we'll ever hear the president even say the word "carbon tax"? >> with an opened mind... >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> ...and a distinctly satirical point of view. >> but you mentioned great about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter) >> cutting throught the clutter of today's top stories. >> this is the savior of the republican party? i mean really? >> ... with a unique perspective. >> teddy rosevelt was a weak asmatic kid who never played sports until he was a grown up. >> (laughter) >> ... and lots of fancy buz words. >> family values, speding, liberty, economic freedom, hard-working moms, crushing debt, cute little puppies. if wayne lapierre can make up stuff that sounds logical while making no sense... hey, so can i. once again friends, this is live tv and sometimes these things happen. >> watch the show. >> only on current tv. (adam)marijuana has become a multi billion dollar a year business and authorities believe

the profits are lining the pockets of criminal networks. >>they're finding out marijuana is one of the main driving forces financing not just our local street gangs, but every large cartel in mexico. (adam)to understand the roll marijuana plays in the overall drug trade, i've headed south of the border to mexico, long the greatest supplier of marijuana to the u.s. market. in the border city of tijuana, i meet up with the mexican military. >>this is the depository. >>this is the storage facility that we're going to take a look inside, but we need to open the door, need to let it air out because the fumes would give you a pretty nasty high. there's marijuana, cocaine, a little bit of heroin, and meth.

wow. nearly all of the drugs in here were destined for the us. we're on a base that is really only 10 miles or so south of the us-mexico border and these drugs are interdicted on route at checkpoints. this is crystal meth. this little brick of marijuana here. 10 kilograms. you can see here, this block of cocaine, often times authorities will see different imprints to indicate who these might be destined for or you know what the grade may be. this is about a kilo or so of cocaine, estimated street value's about 50 thousand or so us dollars. (adam)the storage shed represents only about 10-percent of the drugs held and waiting to be destroyed on this one base. outside, a growing convoy of tractor-trailers contain the

overflow. i was taken to see one of the most recent seizures, and unlike the variety of drugs in the storage unit, this record haul was all marijuana >>oh my god. this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. we're inside this tractor-trailer, full of these bricks of marijuana. estimated street value of about $80-85 million u.s. dollars. this is a pretty bold attempt to smuggle marijuana into the us. is it safe to say that marijuana is one of the most, if not the most important source of revenue for the cartels? (adam)by some estimates, marijuana accounts for more than half of the profits cartels generate from drug trafficking. and unlike the other hard drugs that are difficult and expensive to produce, marijuana is a low overhead high profit business. and it has, by far, the biggest

market. until recently, mexico was the world's undisputed number one producer of marijuana. authorities here mostly turned a blind eye to its production. but as violence began tearing apart the country -- claiming 28,000 mexican lives since 2006 -- it became difficult to ignore the drug cartel's' cash cow. >>we are in an army vehicle and we had asked if we could sit outside and we were told it isn't safe for us to be seen coming out of a military base or with these guys. nor are well allowed to show any of the faces of the soldiers. gives you a sense of what kind of environment we're dealing with here in mexico. (adam)just a few hundred yards from the us border, and this is how the mexican military travels-in heavily armed convoys. because they've taken up the fight against the cartels, they are targets, and never more so

than when they're heading into narco territory. >>we are heading to the marijuana grow site that the army is going to be eradicating. this marijuana grow site here is massive. it extends for about two and a half acres goes over this ridge and extends outward. traditionally, most of the marijuana that's consumed in the us has come from mexico in marijuana gardens just like this. (adam)this one grow alone is estimated to contain 250,000 plants which could yield upwards of $100 million dollars of marijuana. >>in recent years, the mexican military has become far more aggressive in trying to stamp out the production as well as the trafficking of marijuana. same time though, it's estimated that within the last six years or so the cultivation and export of marijuana to the us and from mexico has actually

doubled. i should have known that reporting this story would entail taking a huge bong hit. (adam)mexican marijuana, which has a low potency, is relatively cheap. so traffickers push volume trying to get as much of it across the u.s. border as possible. >>so this is the mexico side of the san yisidro border crossing into the us and if you wanted to smuggle drugs into the us this is probably one of your best bets. every day, 40,000 vehicles 100,000 people or so make their way across the border into the us. (adam)and if you're looking for a little extra luck, you might want to pay a visit to some of the vendors along the side of the border crossing. >>you wanna buy this? the images of this guy, jesus malverde seem pretty inescapable. he's come to be known as the patron saint of narco trafficking. and this is a figure that people

will pray to and will keep charms around as a way of providing safe passage for drug traffickers trying to move their product. >>malverde. >>ah, there we go. >>so if i want to smuggle marijuana? he's going to help me? (adam)at the u.s. border, the checkpoint searches are rigorous. officers are on high alert looking for everything from human smuggling to the smuggling of drugs. not long after we arrive, the sniffing dogs detect a familiar scent. >>that pickup truck just came in about an hour ago and the officers are about to start dismantling it to see if in fact there is pot in the gas tank. you can see this big box

inside. this is a compartment within the gas tank here. 85-90 percent of the volume of this container is a secondary container. oh my god. this is actually pretty heavy. this is probably about eight kilos or so. it has the unmistakable smell. >>we are building much stronger intelligence networks. we are supporting our frontline officers with better information. we are getting some traction here. we are making some headway. we are driving these people underground. it's not a simple thing to move a load of dope in, it's very difficult. (adam)with authorities on both sides of the border cracking down on smuggling in recent years trafficking organizations who have no intention of abandoning their cash crop have set their sights on ways to

avoid the border all together, and that's got them looking north. coming up... we're there as agents in california set out on a risky patrol. >>you never know, these guys may have put up warning systems up. maybe some type of tin cans or fish line something on the trail. so i'll have to be really careful about that in the dark. anything can happen, i mean, who knows. this show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress

that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

i think the number one thing

that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. (adam)the sierra nevada mountains in northern california are home to some of the most pristine wilderness in the u.s., including yosemite and sequoia national parks. but in recent years, the sierras have also become one of the biggest marijuana growing regions in the world. the dense forest provides great camouflage for growers and is difficult to navigate by land. but by air authorities scan the rugged terrain for any signs of marijuana production.

(adam)like any crop, marijuana needs water. and flying over a waterfall, the pilot spots something that doesn't belong. >>so the growers here have set up quite an elaborate irrigation system. along the slope here where all these plants are you can see it's lined with a lot of these large hoses and off these main lines you have little drip lines that lead into each of the individual plants here. (adam)marijuana production on california's public lands has reached an industrial scale. growers will often carry in miles of irrigation tube. along with toxic fertilizer, pesticides and all their own personal needs to last in the wilderness for the four month marijuana growing season which lasts from may to september.

>>you can see all the provisions of home here. you've got some gas stoves here, lemonade, spam, toilet paper, eggs, candy. these guys will live out here for months on end. they set-up their homes, essentially, out in the wilderness here and tend to the gardens on a daily basis. looks like they got out of here in a real hurry because they have all this food here just sitting. (adam)the growers may have gotten away, but they left their crops behind and the mavmit team finds some familiar clues as to who they were. >>this is the campsite where the two suspects would live and sleep for the four months they were working this marijuana site. and without fail the calling card of jesus malverde patron saint of narco trafficking. >>today, jesus did not pull through.

>>now how is it that the mexican cartels sort of infiltrated the sierras here in california, and why california? >>well there's an aggressive effort there's been for years at the borders. and a lot if these organizations in mexico are finding it where they can bring up farmers. put a high-powered weapon in their hands. get out there just like you're growing back in mexico. and they already have it here now in the united states, so it makes it very easy for them to ship it eastward across the country instead of bringing it across the border. >>almost exclusively, the marijuana grows in our sierra mountains are done by mexican drug trafficking organizations. this is not somebody who smokes pot and grows their own stash. it's not like that. (adam)margaret mims is the sheriff of fresno county california-one of the largest if not the largest marijuana producing regions in the state.

>>california has been identified as ground zero growing more marijuana than any other state and possibly even more than the whole country of mexico. (adam)when california began marijuana eradication efforts in 1983, authorities seized less than 100,000 plants in the state. last year, they seized over 7 million, with a total value of $15 billion dollars. and as the number of plants has grown, so has their potency. >>here in california they're starting to master the marijuana plant. twenty years ago, the thc-the potency was about three, four, five percent. now the marijuana we're finding out in the sierras is from 15 to as high as 25 percent. so when that marijuana is grown here in california, and takes that label when it crosses state lines, the markup is unbelievable. california bud right now is the

marijuana that people are looking for. >>marijuana is by far the most significant factor in many of these mexican drug trafficking organizations. it exceeds all the proceeds from cocaine, meth, heroin, all those put together. >>these drug trafficking organizations are now controlling an enormously profitable business. that's essentially based here in california? >>that's absolutely correct. they own it they control it and their network is widespread throughout the u.s. (adam)so with literally billions of dollars now at stake the growers and the organizations they work for are willing to use extreme measures to insure the protection of their precious cargo. >>we constantly get complaints or reports from hikers, campers, hunters that either have just had a run in-which they're hiking on a trail and they see three guys, two with ak-47s, or

actually being confronted, saying "'you need to turn around and walk the other way.' we've had shots fired at them. we've had campers that have actually been held hostage. (adam)the increasing sophistication of the networks controlling the marijuana trade, along with their violent credentials prompted a new and more aggressive response from law enforcement. commander roy giorgi and his agents are now charged with infiltrating these groups and finding out just who they are and ultimately dismantling them. to get to the big fish, they first have to catch some of the smaller ones. it's the end of july. mavmit's been at it for nearly three months, and i'm preparing to join them on what could be a critical patrol >>it's about 1:30 in the morning and under the cover of darkness we are preparing to

head into the forest to try and get to a few different grow sites that have been recently discovered. (adam)the marijuana plants are maturing and almost ready to hit the streets. mavmit has learned that more people have gone into the grow to help with the harvest. it's riskier now, but if the agents can make some arrests the intelligence haul could be significant. >>we are hearing that a lot of these organizations that are running these marijuana grow sites are telling the growers you need to protect your crop. quit running fleeing from anybody. along with that, we are finding a lot of the growers out there have threats against their family. if you're not successful, not only are you not getting paid. you know little johnny and little maria are going to be killed. >>we patrolled this one about a month ago and it's a pretty good hump going up. it's about a mile, there's real deep holes you cannot get

around. we did one grow site and we had two in custody, they were armed with a high caliber rifle. last thing we want to do is approach that tent unless it's open. that's when shootings have occurred. make sure you have tree or ground some type of cover not just concealment. right when we get close we'll just kill the headlight just stay close to my car and we'll park up and then we'll roll. >>there's been 5 shootings in the last 45 days where law enforcement, thank god, have been on the positive side and have killed a suspect who has raised an assault weapon at them. so absolutely the violence is increasing. >>hopefully it's nice and windy up in that canyon and cold and they are nice and snug in their sleeping bags. hopefully they were working really hard last night and they are tired and their guard will be down. you never know, these guys may

have put warning system up maybe some type of tin cans or fish line something on the trails. so i'll have to be really careful about that in the dark. anything could happen, i mean who knows.

(vo) current tv is the place for compelling true stories. (kaj) jack, how old are you? >> nine. (adam) this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. way inside. (christoff) we're patrolling the area looking for guns, drugs bodies ... (adam) we're going to places where few others are going. [lady] you have to get out now. >> lots of terrible things happen to people growing marijuana. >> this crop to me is my livelihood. >> i'm being violated by the health care system. (christoff) we go and spend a considerable amount of time getting to know the people and the characters that are actually

living these stories. (vo) from the underworld to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current. >> occupy! >> we will have class warfare. (vo) true stories, current perspective. documentaries. on current tv. (adam)i'm on patrol with an elite law enforcement unit in the northern california wilderness, tracking down

marijuana growers. the objective: surprise and arrest the suspects at first light. (adam)i'd trekked across this terrain before, during the day. but under the cloak of darkness, it's proving to be a much more difficult experience. (adam)as the sun rises we're

still quite a ways from the grow. mavmit's hopes that the suspects would be asleep in their tents is now a long shot. with each step, we're looking for clues and trails that will hopefully lead us to the marijuana grow.

(adam)the suspects are likely awake and roaming the area. the risk of confrontation is high. the agents regroup and make a plan to surround the grow site. (adam)it's hard to make out the marijuana from a distance, but as we get closer the vivid green color of the plants starts popping through the trees and brush. they're much larger now than the one's we'd seen earlier in the season.

(adam)we're entering one edge of this large marijuana garden. the gardens are usually located near the growers living quarters so chances are the targets are very close by. >>i got 'em in front of us. they're running gary in front of us. twelve o'clock, twelve o'clock gary. >> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him.

>> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv.

>> if you believe in state's rights but still support the drug war you must be high. >> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day. >> do you think that there is any chance we'll see this president even say the words "carbon tax"? >> with an open mind... >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? satirical point of view. >> but you mentioned "great leadership" so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter). >> watch the show. >> only on current tv.

this show is about being up to date, staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. (adam)after hiking all night up the steep sierra nevada's under the cover of darkness i'm now entering a marijuana garden. which is potentially worth tens of millions of dollars. here in california it's becoming a dangerous game as most of the growers are arming themselves to protect we're on their turf now. >>alright, let's go.

>>hey bill, this looks like one of the main plots. get ready to make a movement. i got them in front of us; they're running gary, in front of us. twelve o'clock, twelve o'clock gary. get off to the right, they came from here. police department! camp's clear gary. gary they're going at about twelve o'clock for us.

>>hey bill, more in this direction here. two or three, black shirts headed off it'd be to our northwest. hispanic male, maybe two others. hey jim, we'll stay in pairs. jim we got good prints up here. hey, he didn't come up here, there's nothing but birds right here. but look at this. this is the way he would have gone jim. adam five from eleven. if i give you coordinates we followed a pretty good set of tracks, it looks like if someone ran he would have run up this creek, heavily vegetated, i

wanted to see if you could check uphill for us. (radio) copy that. >>so close. >>we still have a shot finding these guys. a lot of times they are running barefoot you know they don't have time to put shoes on. his sandal. >>i thought he said he had visual on a suspect.

(adam)with the help of eyes in the sky, mavmit has identified 3 runners but the rugged terrain makes it hard for them to pin down the suspects trying to flee the scene. (adam)the search is on for the suspect who went over the cliff. >>[bleep]. here, right here, jim. you with us, john? >>there's his hat right there. >>i'm telling you that guy came off this [bleep]in' mountain. >>then he's not gonna get too

far if he came off that. i'm gonna, i'm getting a case out of this. who is that? >>show me your hands, right now. down! down! down! (radio)victor one-two detained in the ravine. (adam)after seven hours of hiking and an intense foot pursuit five suspects are apprehended. >>so this campsite here is essentially like a marijuana factory. >>that's another serious charge. >>come on baby, come on.

alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. >> she gets the comedians laughing... >> that's hilarious! >> ...and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> and current will let me say anything.

>>eight. >>eight of them? hey, eleven to units, on a debrief, suspect says there's eight of them, eight of them from the camp. (adam)though other suspects may still be at-large, the team is now ready to search and secure a campsite they've had their eye on for the last two months. >>so this is main campsite that we have been searching for all morning long. in total, there were suspected to be about 8 people that were working this garden. five of them were apprehended and now the process of pulling the plants and eradicating this marijuana field is taking place. these a separate load out.

>> ah, a little chorizo. (adam)agents scour the campsite for evidence that they hope will lead them to the big boss >>all right, be careful, i have not cleared it and i can't pull the bullet there. >>it's loaded. >>it is? >>one jacked out of the chamber. >>that's another serious charge. >>dude, that thing's fully loaded. >>these rounds would penetrate a vest, a normal vest. >> this campsite here is essentially a marijuana factory. this is where these guys sleep cook, eat and live for months at a time. we're here during probably one of the most critical times which is the harvesting season that is when the plants are, essentially, prepared and processed. >>here they have a good

processing room as part of their campsite. i'll tell you right now, one of these young gentlemen, he's a trimmer. he'll sit right here and that's what he'll do all day long. he'll just cut, he'll just cut out the leaves, the little stems. so once they get from the stem then they'll cut off the buds, this is the only thing that'll be processed and sold. this is the gold. this is it right here. this right here is processed marijuana ready to hit the street. and it looks like these are all pound bags ready to go. (adam)the marijuana here estimated to be worth tens of millions of dollars, was just days away from hitting the streets across the country. >>we have agents, you know doing the mirand-ize and getting statements and we'll run their cell phones and when they're making their last calls, but they're not really giving us a lot of information. they're at the bottom of the food chain.

their family could be in danger if they give up information. it becomes a ruthless game especially if you become a snitch. so we understand why they don't give us a lot of information. the arrests are more important than the plants because when you're just eradicating and cutting the plants, you hurt the pocketbook, but in two years they're right back at it again. if you can dismantle drug trafficking organizations, then they're not gonna come back, so the arrests are very, very important. >>so you took in five guys, what happens next? >>they'll get processed and from there we will do federal indictments, you're looking at a ten year minimum so they're looking at some time. all right, we gotta move back.

>>go! go! (adam)it's a successful day for mavmit with five arrests but their investigation has just begun. now, the search is on for the heads of this operation.

>>evidence. i believe they were growing marijuana out here. i am not sure, but something tells me. there's a little bit of weed out here. (vo)previously on vanguard-- >>i got them in front of us, they're running. >>show me your hands! show me your hands! (vo)mexican drug trafficking organizations are now in the u.s.

operating industrial sized marijuana gardens. u.s. law enforcement is fighting a growing drug war on a new front line-- in california. >>alright we've got them crossing the creek right now. (vo)in the second half of this special two part vanguard-- >>ok we need the wire on. (vo)i embed with an elite task force. >>ok there is contact. (vo)as they send in undercover operatives who infiltrate a mexican drug trafficking organization and bring it down from the inside out. >>i am going to be really mad if i don't have em. >>we have to take this down. >>the whole of cuernavaca is geared towards tourism.

geared to the whole of mexico city arriving en masse every weekend. it's got a lot of spas, which is why yoga is quite strong in cuernavaca. exhale; bend one knee while you extend the outside back-- (vo)i'm at a yoga retreat in the town of cuernavaca, mexico. long a weekend getaway for wealthy residents of mexico city, cuernavaca is known as the city of eternal spring. >>i have heard it compared to the hamptons of mexico city. >>well now a days its really there is a lot of fear instead of the city of the eternal spring, it is known as the city of the eternal shootout. (vo)just a couple hours drive from mexico's capital; this once tranquil resort town is now

squarely in the crossfire of mexico's drug war. >>there are about five different cartels fighting it out for cuernavaca. they all want a piece of it. >>this is the sight of one of the most gruesome displays of narco related violence here in the city of cuernavaca, several bodies, several executed bodies were hung from this bridge and it really shook the community to its core because this is really the center of town, right across the street from a high end shopping center. >>now there are the military checking who is coming in, who is coming out, they're roaming the city a lot. there's police under all the bridges where all these bodies were found hanging. (vo)anne moxie has a unique perspective on the growing violence in cuernavaca not just because she's a long time resident, but because she teaches yoga at the local prison. >>one of the best students i've got is the top lieutenants of one of the top traffickers in the country.

he's in for like 44 years. he's in for a double assassination of anti-drug authorities and he's in for drug trafficking. the guys who were found hanging from the bridge had escaped from the prison where i give my yoga classes. and from the inmates inside i was told that they were released, they didn't escape. and apparently they were released on some sort of errand. they were supposed to be doing something for one of the cartels. things are completely out of control and where the government is i have no idea. (vo)in 2006, the newly elected president of mexico, felipe calderon, declared war on mexico's drug cartels, deploying 50,000 troops across the country. the move disrupted the delicate balance of power between rival drug lords and mexico quickly descended into violence.

the government's war against the cartels is directed from here, the nation's capital. >>i just arrived in mexico city and i just picked up a magazine called "proceso," which is a very influential news magazine. the headline reads that half of mexico is under the control of the narcos. and the photo here is of a marijuana field. >>you know if he's caught on camera its okay but he would really prefer, yeah for questions of security. (vo)here at the headquarters of the ministry of defense perhaps one of the most secure locations in mexico officials did not want to appear on camera, but we were granted access to the department's secret vault of evidence seized in the government's four-year war against the cartels. a private collection of artifacts intended to show anti-drug officials the growing strength of their enemy, and how they operate.

>>over the years traffickers have developed a number of ways sometimes ingenious ways of moving their drugs into the u.s. here marijuana was found inside coconuts, inside vehicles, false flooring, marijuana has been found inside pottery, sometimes women will pretend to be pregnant and hide the drugs under their fake belly. by far the most impressive or i guess disturbing method has been, it was implanted into her butt cheeks. she complained about pain at the mexico airport and then confessed that she was trafficking cocaine through her ass. (vo)what immediately catches my eye is the display on narco culture. >>shit, look at that. here we have a number of display cases of seized 38 and 45

caliber pistols. and if you like weapons this is a, this room is kind of a wet dream. these weapons are incrusted in diamonds and incased in gold. one of the weapons of choice here for the narcos are ak47 which are also again blinged out. (vo)mexican and us authorities estimate that cartels earn between $19 and $29 billion dollars each year selling drugs in the us. if you're a player in the trade, these are some of the toys that money can buy you. >>gold cell phone-- >>yeah, everything is ostentatious >>one tell tale sign that you have a narco right. >>holy shit. >>in recent years the narcos have significantly upgraded their weaponry and here are two

pretty egregious examples. here is a 50 caliber sniper rifle, and an m60 machine gun both from the us. these are the weapons that the us army and the marine corp, use in iraq and afghanistan, now in the hands of narcos. in the last four years of this war against the narcos, how many weapons have been seized? >>65,000 >>65,000 weapons, in four years. (vo)visiting the narco museum is a reminder of how serious this narco war has become, and how closely linked it is to the us. so this fun little light bright looking map here helps illustrate a very powerful point which is that seizing control of these drug trafficking routes is what this narco war is all about. you got a route going through the gulf of mexico, one going

through the heart of mexico, along the pacific and baja california and the interesting thing is the common theme here is that all of these roads lead north to the us. (vo)aside from the trend of drugs coming up from mexico to the u.s. and the weapons and cash heading back down, the museum revealed something else-- >>this is just like what we see in california here. (vo) what i was seeing harkened back to the mountains in northern california, where i'd spent time with agents working to eradicate marijuana plantations. >>there is a long tradition of growing marijuana here in mexico this is where a lot of the methods were perfected. this scene looks very familiar same set up, same equipment as we see in the marijuana grows in california, likely because it's the same people. they're just growing it north of the border. (vo)as mexico's cartels grow in power officials in the us are beginning to see

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(vo) in mexico, the military showed me what they're up against in their on-going war on drugs. as cartels there wage a bloody battle for control of lucrative trafficking routes, authorities here in the us are launching a new more aggressive response to combat the growing reach of these groups. i spent much of the early summer in california sierra nevada mountains documenting the activities of a new task force known as mavmit, the mountain and valley marijuana investigation team. mavmit's mission is to infiltrate and dismantle the mexican drug trafficking networks operating here in the us. >>the mexican traffickers controlling pretty much the drug trade of all drugs-- marijuana, meth, cocaine heroin in the us have the control and the biggest market in the us. (vo)when the agents aren't patrolling the california wilderness, they're seeing plenty of action on the streets where networks largely funded by the marijuana business also traffic cocaine, heroin and

meth. >>we're finding that a lot of these organizations are all poly-drug. a lot of times we're buying hundreds of pounds of marijuana in addition with pounds and pounds of methamphetamine. it goes hand in hand. (vo)the team got a tip that a group is trafficking large amounts of crystal meth from mexico. they've tracking for a few weeks and have evidence that they may also be players in the marijuana trade. they team hopes that by busting this group for meth they'll get intel on the group's extensive and highly lucrative marijuana network. >>so he's get two to three hundred pounds out of guadalajara? (on radio)that's what it sounds like, from a little town in guadalajara. >>copy.

(vo)here in merced, in california's central valley, they decide to close in on the group to see what intel they can gather. >>maybe the next few hours, some guys that are living the big fat life, all happy out there, buying what they want to buy and abusing us, their life's gonna change. (vo)the key to any operation are undercover agents and a network of confidential informants w ho are referred to as "friendlies." >>hey 37, 11, pass out the friendly has a tan baseball hat, tan short sleeve shirt button up, blue jeans, cowboy boots. we have several mexican national informants that work for us and they will call us and say they have a group and it goes from there. >>hey 64, 11 ok we're gonna be

coming into the area. (vo)the informant, acting as a drug dealer, will buy meth from the suspect while one of the undercovers monitors the audio from the informant's hidden microphone. >>break, break, contact. >>yeah, we got him. ok, door's open. primary looks like he's getting inside.

>>they're talking about where to go. he's gonna take him to his car to go show him the stuff. (vo)the suspect is taking the the final transaction. >>11 copy. we are at the p house. 11 to entry team it's gonna be location 2, make sure you get all your gear, you're ready to roll. entry team get ready. 67 copy, they're in the driveway. remember the visual 67, it will be a hat off. >>entry team, we're slowly moving in, i'm waiting for you.

which one is it? right here in the driveway? >>i think that's it, i guess. >>get your hands up! let me see your hands! >>let me see your hands! on the ground! >>this is one of the 25 pounds. this would be a very large shard of the crystal meth. (vo)taking a million dollars worth off meth of the streets is a quick hit for the agents, but the real payoff-- intel that leads mavmit one step closer to striking the financial core of organizations like this one. >>these organization are involved in the trafficking of various drugs. marijuana seems to be the most important of it. >>yes, their number one priority is marijuana. that is where they make the most

proceeds. they depend on the marijuana money to fuel much of the other type of drug or criminal activity. that is their baby. if you can dismantle a trafficking organization on the marijuana side, you're also taking them out on the meth production, cocaine distribution and all those other type of criminal activities they get involved in. (vo)coming up--mavmit attempts to infiltrate a major player in the marijuana business. >>that looks like them right there, that's the undercover and the crook. >>you guys are in position? >>everyone's in position and we're ready to go. if you believe in state's rights but still support the drug war you must be high. >> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day. >> do you think there is any chance we'll ever hear the president even say the word "carbon tax"? >> with an opened mind... >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> ...and a distinctly satirical point of view. >> but you mentioned great leadership so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter)

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this show is about being up to date, staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. (vo)two weeks after busting a million dollar meth deal in the suburbs of central california, the mavmit team is back in action ready for their next operation. >>alright, hey guys, we're gonna go ahead and get started. jurisdiction, sac city's been notified. (vo)using the intel they gathered from their earlier busts, they've gotten closer to a major player in california's multi-billion dollar bud business so they've come up with an elaborate and

risky plan to tear the group apart from the inside out. the undercovers, agents 15 and 20, will pose as land managers with a good plot to grow marijuana. >>what are you doing? >>i just make it look like i'm a hard worker, like i've been working out in the fields. >>this is a very sophisticated group that's been doing this for years in california so the smallest things are important. (vo)these undercover agents will offer this land to the traffickers. >>my role is the key holder to the land. i'm the guardian of the land so they don't want to be seen there on their own. they like the fact that it's secure though when i meet them i will take them to the property. (vo)this is a dangerous, high

stakes game and agents 15 and 20's true identities must remain concealed. they'll not only prove to the traffickers that this is a good plot of land for growing weed, more importantly they'll have to befriend this group and become trusted business partners. >>once you've successfully befriended these people and they trust as one of their own, we are in the business with them, then we infiltrate their group find out everything about them their hierarchy, distribution channels, and everything that's kind of involved with their criminal organization. >>64, 11 you up? hey we're gonna meet on the far west end first just to do one more wire check before we send them in, we're early. (vo)roy and the undercovers meet at a parking lot near the grow site to make last preparations before the growers arrive. >>ok, good. it might cut out, if it does

roy then you gotta go to-- >>i know channel 8. >>yeah. >>gotcha. we're good. >>if you see me screaming and hollering and yelling like a little baby, come and save me. >>well that's everyday. (vo)roy takes position to watch the undercovers meet the traffickers and from here, if all goes as planned, he will follow them to the proposed site. >>ok you need the wire on. they're here. (vo)in the meantime, i'm following mavmit's sniper team as they move into position where they can provide cover for the agents below.

>>our role is to protect the undercover agents. where we're at we can see deeper in to where the undercovers are gonna walk the suspect. that way we're keeping the undercovers safe just in case the suspects try to do anything silly. >>okay, we gotta move folks. >>that looks like them right there. you see them in the open right there. that's the undercover and the crook that just drove by. >>nora 22, nora 11, you guys are in position?

>>everyone's in position and we're ready to go. (vo)the growers are well-armed so these meetings are always tense. >>alright we have them crossing the creek right now. [speaking spanish]

>>there they go. (radio)22 has them walking out now. >>copy 22, they're on their way out. >>alright, moment of truth. >>it was beautiful, they loved it because there's all kind of places up there. >>alright but they like the area huh? >>oh, they love this area, yeah. (vo)they're in. phase one is a success. the undercovers have cracked open the door to this trafficking organization and from here they'll get to know these ins and the outs - from the growers in the field all the way up to the financier of the entire operation. >>people may ask why not take them off right away why let them get out there because there's a difference of disrupting and dismantling. disrupting you may take off a little portion of them, but they're gonna continue. if we know we can find out exactly who's financing it

who is the shot caller, then we can hurt the organization. (vo)coming up: >>ok, they're meeting. (vo)the agents closely trail the suspects before making their big move. cenk off air alright in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks! i think the number 1 thing than viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. they know that i'm not bsing them for some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the i'm going to be the first one to call them out. cenk on air>> what's unacceptable is how washington continues to screw the middle class over. cenk off air i don't want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. cenk on air you got to go to the local level, the state level and we have to fight hard to make sure they can't buy our politics anymore. cenk off air and they can question if i'm right about that. but i think the

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hal: it's embarrassing and stupid and ridiculous. so, here's the headline. oops! company lied about outsourced n.s.a. background checks. the federal investigators have told lawmakers they have evidence that uais that screened

edward snowden repeatedly misled the government about the thoroughness of its background checks. it's so serious that a federal watchdog plans to recommend that the office of permanent management end ties unless it shows it is responsibility. cutting off can present a quagmire for the security clearance process. there's too many people with clearance anyway. jacki: it's half a million. that's a lot of people. hal: it's almost like how drinks have just gotten bigger, and a medium drink is now what an extra large was and they try to convince you that the difference between a reasonable beverage and a gallon jug is the nickel and somehow that's become

normallish. top secret has fallen into that well by, i mean top in air quotes. this is a top secret matter, meaning you can know and you can know, and they can know and they can know and anybody who cleans the trash cans can know, he's got to have top secret clearance. anybody in his division can know because those trash cans might be dumped there at some point. we've got to screen those folks or clearance. adding clearance upon clearance upon clearance. is there above top secret now do we need a secondary top secret. jacki: awesome top secret. >> what's the difference, the c.i.a. was enough of an organization, then we added n.s.a. and homeland security. we keep stacking this up. jacki: here's where the failure is on this. this is not the screening for booz allen hamilton.

hal: right. jacki: in that screening snowden lied about his education on several levels, said that he attended certain programs and participated in certain qualification programs, was going to get his masters in some sort of computer science he attended johns hopkins. he funded everything within his educational background and somehow convinced the personnel screeners to overlook that at booz allen hamilton off convinced them that that was appropriate. he fudged within that process. now we find out that when he went and worked for the government, that the contractor that screened him for the government did a rotten job. hal: which was a rotten company. jacki: and lied about doing a rotten job. somewhere the vetting process broke down. hal: right. and this is going to be a continuing issue. jacki: they didn't just screen this one guy. hal: right. they screened tens of thousands.

jacki: they are contractors that screen for government security clearance. >> crooks and liars brought this up, i brought this up, you brought this up. when we start talking about how the federal government and government is bad inefficient and incapable always the better version, because it's cheaper and more expedited is to go to a private company. jacki: that is a private company. hal: yeah, when you outsource these things and are shocked later when the things that happen at private companies happen, but with crucial and. jacki: dire circumstances. hal: dire circumstances attached to them. jacki: consequences. hal: people act surprised or something or somehow that then blaming the federal government for outsourcing to that company. at some point you go we've got to keep that inside. the d.m.v. model of government

sucking is pretty great because the millions of people who get their driver's license and go through the testing process if you want to think there would be better drivers on the road because private d.m.v.'s would allow fewers drivers on the road you're out of your mind. they'd charge you an extra $20. jacki: there would be a profit motive. hal: to not pass the test. people that the d.m.v. deals with with the myriad of issues from multiple tickets to brand new drivers to registration to all the affecting elements of getting this entire country on the road, the way the d.m.v. does it is almost magic at how well it's actually run. as annoying as it is to go down there and do it, it won't be any different. the same people who go i hate going to the d.m.v. or whatever, tell me what it's like when you go to get your cell phone fixed

at a place and tell me you would rather it be much more like that process. sometimes you have a great experience sometimes it's awful. sometime you break your season and they think you did it on purpose and you want a free upgrade and did it that way and they won't let you and you have to talk to the manager. jacki: you have just as much trouble in the private sector as the public sector, and it's just easier to complain about the public sector. hal: the benefits we get with working with the public sector is that we genuinely have the outcome being the most important part, not profit, not the financial motivation of it. the problem with modern republican lawmakers and democratic lawmakers that followed them, it is somehow -- as much as possible on the

federal level. they've put the profit motive into a public sector idea. if we can cut the price so far down that it's almost ineffective, we're somehow saving main and that's like gaining money, instead of actually getting a service that you pay for basically undercutting programs so that they want. jacki: be effective. hal: yes. the profit, and there is a profit to federal government and. jacki: well, the money goes back into running your government. hal: what i mean is there is a profit that is non-monetary, the benefit to the citizens. jacki: sure. but when there is money it goes back into the system as opposed to going to shareholders. hal: or overseas, which is the biggest problem with modern corporate practices, is that a lot of them aren't american companies anymore. this concept of protecting the corporation at the expense of the public government or public

safety or waterways or aquifers and this idea that well, you're getting in the way of progress. mitch mcconnell is bringing up how the president's climate address, which was fundamentally ignored by the press this week. jacki: what happened at the same time? hal: fundamentally. didn't matter, the trayvon martin case was on. there's always a secondary. jacki: they probably went to something less significant. hal: they were covering lots of things, and again the, you know the voting rights act stuff came out and interviews on every station, i get it. the problem was started that day, not the solution. this was a new story about solutions which we need. we know the problem with the voting rights act and that will play out over time. this was probably one of the

most fundamentally important speeches of the president's two terms. this is a drastic shift. jacki: but not sexy, and that's why it doesn't get covering. hal: i think breathing is sexy. jacki: that's the problem with giving a speech about climate change legislation. hal: it reaction of al gore. jacki: the media can't sex it up. wown't to air a speech about climate change legislation. hal: the weather channel aired the whole thing. they know how to make weather sexy. this lines up with the coverage that they're seeing, the big board, looking at hurricane season, tornado season, saying this is getting worse the last decade be the hottest on record. jacki: they understand it. hal: miami's going to be underwear by the end of the century, fully underwater. this is bad. the president goes we've got to solve this. i'm not going to be a president who ignores this, as a

president, as a father, this is too important to pass up. the reality is mitch mcconnell comes out and says this will hamstring growth. this will limit, you know, this is -- and this is what they're saying about cap and trade you're slowing growth and somehow we only compete against company past margins in the world and that's the measure of success, the top line of a company. jacki: what about the growth of vegetation, what about foliage. hal: knock yourself out with all your pro life amendments, but you're literally fighting for when you're not fighting against a woman's rights to actually be in control of her body in a situation where she might actually die you're also fighting for the birther children that you hope choke to

death by the time they have children. jacki: if i'm not mistaken, we have a significant increase in allergies and asthma and bronchial issues, children today now. hal: let's take a break and take calls when we get back. you're absolutely right. i don't need you to believe in climate change as a theory, to be onboard because 100,000 kids are sent to emergency rooms because of asthma. you don't have to care if it's changing the environment. jacki: you have to care that it's killing our kids. hal: you're stopping the coal jobs in your area, i'm sorry those jobs can't be allowed to come to the expense of the life,ly better and happiness of everybody's who's down river. we'll be back. >> prepare yourselves for a shock. >> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show."

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>> announcer: here's a good idea when you're telling these little stories have a point. it makes it so much more interesting for the listener. >> well, that's just like your opinion. hal: nothing? the big lebow ski. jacki: which i've never seen all the way through approximately that was on the rolling stones list of top 10 stoner's movie.

hal: that's a low tier way of looking at that movie though. was "dude where's my car" in there? probably "up in smoke." jacki: "daysed and confused." >> that movie i haven't seen all the way through. jacki: oh, my goodness. hal: that's what i love about these high school girls. i keep getting older and they keep staying the same age. like wow. everybody knows that dude. we had a guy like that that used to hang out in campus near my high school all the time, probably graduated two or three years before he's like 21 and just dating 16-year-old girls whatever and always dating a 16-year-old. he turned 22. jacki: still 16. hal: yep. jacki: i've given that advice to male friends.

if your in your 30's and still going to keggers, do you want to be that guy? the girls 21 look at you and say why is he here, who is that guy. hal: most of them do, some of them don't. he wouldn't keep coming if it didn't work, you know what i mean? jacki: all right true. when you wake up in the dorm, it hasn't been a good night. hal: i would take issue with that. [ laughter ] hal: that being said, let's take calls. we have a lot of different issues. let's go to rock in washington talking about climate change. caller: good morning my fellow americans, appreciate you taking my call. hal: absolutely. caller: i think the problem was they didn't cover it because obama didn't follow the agenda set out by the left, global warming to global climate change and now back to global warming. he didn't follow the lines, you know? and, you know, i'm not left or

right, i'm in the middle but listen to both sides. i think that he went off narrative. he went off the speech and i think that didn't get covered so much in the regular news cycle. hal: i don't know that there was a drastic shift from global climate change approximate global warming. the trend points that way but i don't know that that varies drastically from the general scientific consensus on the idea. i don't know what you mean by being off message. caller: what i mean by being off message is you know, as far as i've been hearing on the -- well, i listen to you guys on sirius and you guys are going to, you know shifting to the weather patterns and, you know, it's affecting and not so much as far as heat and stuff like that, it's shifted to the weather patterns, it's caused more erratic and forceful storms

and stuff like that, and, you know he went back to, you know, it's overheating the planet. hal: i think both of those actually happen simultaneously. he discussed that last decade was the hottest on record and we're dealing with more egregious storms and people in area where the water is ricing drastically and faster than they thought it would. i think it wasn't covered because there's a continuing corporate interest against any shift in it, and nobody will want to change anything, because it's, you know, like telling somebody to go on a diet, you know, it doesn't really work or take hold. they don't take it seriously until they've had open heart surgery. we're getting to that point, you know, people are getting the signs of a heart attack as far as the weather goes, but not taking it that seriously. that's why it's a cutting edge speech, why it is a big deal that it happened when it did. do you not believe it?

is that -- i mean, do you not believe that global claims change is occurring? caller: you know i have a total different theory what happens on that, it has a crazy tilt, but i think as far as what happened, what could be happening is you know we slowly, our rotation around the sun could be degrading and we're getting a little closer and a little closer and the magnetic reactions, different magnetic waves and once we get so close it will fry everything on the planet. hal: the exponential growth of heat that you're talking about would mean that the earth would be in a death spiral into the sun on, you know on a continually exponential level. the other thing too is like solar storms have not increased in any magnitude over the last

decade and keeping with the rising temperature on the earth. caller: i meant as the earth gets closer. hal: i understand what you're saying, that that's not actually. caller: the magnetic field would react with those ejections and push it a little farther, we go from the dinosaur to the next, to the next. i don't know, it's kind of into left field. hal: i would go with the problems you can fix and in many ways, when you got 97% of scientists saying that we've got the gases that we're putting into the atmosphere are affecting the atmosphere with reflection of heat and trapping heat on the planet, which is absolutely in keeping with historically how it's happened on the planet before, on the same level as giant volcanic eruptions, things we can't control, we owe it to ourselves to try to control it to some degree. how much time do we have left?

about a minute. there's a lot of people calling in. i want to deal with this on the other side of it, because it's a big conversation, plus we'll talk more about, you know, the trayvon martin trial is going on right now. there are two conflicting versions of what's going on, as far as the witnesses go. but the very least is that the woman that saw this, said she saw the screening directly said she saw trayvon doing it and he was having his arms stuffed under his body essentially and that the white witness is saying that it was the other way around, and saying that he assumed that the screaming was coming from zimmerman, not him he didn't see it. he continually says that he assumed that that of course must have been how it was. that's why this is such a contentious case. we'll be back with more "stephanie miller show." i'm hall sparks and we're on current with jacki sheckner.

hal: i can't believe it, we finally get to do a news break in the final hour of the show. jacki: has the anticipation been killing you? hal: it has. i feel slidely rudderless. jacki: i like our free form chat. hal: i do, too. it's important that we get news in and no better person to do it than the lovely and talented jacki sheckner. jacki: thank you sweet. house minority leader nance

please says there is a lot of excitement that hillary clinton may run for president in 2016, adding she would be the best prepared person to enter the white house in decades adding with all due respect to president obama, president clinton and any other presidents that that declaration might cover, last month's poll had clinton with 65% for the party nomination. vice president biden 16%. >> president obama made it clear he is not going to make a big deal out of edward snowden. he has not spoken with the presidents of china or russia. he refuses to make it more important there be it is. he called his return a law enforcement matter. ecuador confirmed that snowden asked for sialoma there but said he has to be in ecuador or

ecuadorian territory to process his request. ecuadorian president says he has not considered bringing snowden into ecuador. for now he stays put in the transit area of the moscow airport. >> president obama heading to south africa today his trip to seneca tanzania was to talk development issues, food and health security and promote democracy. this comes at a time that china has passed the u.s. as africa's largest trading partner. overshad owing the president's trip is south africa's focus on nelson mandela hospitalized for 20 days. his daughter admits while he doesn't look good, he is responsive. the president has not ruled out a visit. he says we'll see what the situation is when we land. i don't need to photo op and the

last thing i want to do is be intrusive at a time the family is concerned with nelson mandela's condition. we're back after the break. is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do

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and i think the audience gets, "this guys to best of his abilities is trying to look out for us." only on current tv! ♪ >> well, hello mr. fancy pants. hal: welcome back, it's the "stephanie miller show," the final hour of the final day. jacki: super sad. hal: it's been great though, i have to say. jacki: sad panda. hal: it's nice to be able to get on a long-range discussion about a lot of topics. there's certainly been tons to cover this week. we'll take your calls about the doma ruling in a little bit, as

well. there's an interesting response from the family research council, which is the most ironically named group in the world. it's like the anti home schoolty society. jacki: shall we tie it into the new yorker cover too. hal: yes. we're talking about climate change, and dealing with a bunch of that. let's take calls. tom in maryland says he can explain global warming. hi tom. caller: hi. it's not so much explain it, but i'll give you a model. hal: ok. caller: if you think of any device you had with an equalizer, you see it going up and down as you add power as you turn up the volume, the highs go higher, the lows lower. the highs are the first we're now seeing, the lows are the record blizzards we had a couple of years ago. it's not just warming it's warm be and the highs go higher, the

lows go lower you get the hotter, the colder. eventually when you push your amplifier into saturation, everything goes you. that that would be unlivable. hal: that was an excellent description, tom. he's right, he was able to do it. hi susan. caller: hello? hal: we're on the show. caller: if you want to deny climate change fine, but the proof is in the weather related costs. if you ask any actuary any insurance company look at their rates as a function of weather extremes. there's the proof for you. hal: keep going up and going up and they're looking out the long term over the next 20 years. caller: exactly. hal: and you're premiums are going to pay as if it's going to get worse. caller: right they know the future, that's the point of an actuary. they know the ads what the futures hold and the trends.

hal: the american obesity epidemic is part of why insurance premiums have gone up and continue to rise, is because you can extrapolate people in that physical shape will have more physical problems later and earlier. caller: right. hal: and have less healthful years at the end of their life than somebody who isn't obese technically obese. that's why it's being treated as a disease now that's why we're getting a lot of drastic treatments for it, because they're trying to mitigate that damage and bring the cost down. caller: i have a real problem with that. jacki: i have a role problem with obesity being called a disease. hal: the toxic stimulus is mass quantities of something that is otherwise relatively normal, and high took toes corn syrup extra

fat and salt in stuff processed foods, meaning a lot of people with type two diabetes are going well a lot of the symptoms and disease can be mitigated by weight loss. that means your organs are in shock. it's newt disease that you have a genetic propensity towards you are continually being poisoned. jacki: but you're also making some choices. hal: that's true, but your choices oftentimes have been made over time to seem less egregious. you drink coke in the mid 1980's when it was contain sugar 1990's high fructose corn syrup and you're getting so much more sugar. your behavior stayed the same. the toxic input has risen over

time. trying to convince that you something you drank for years and years and years has suddenly caused you a problem but it didn't used to do that. it's like trying to convince people not to smoke. earlier, it didn't make them cough that much. jacki: we learned over time that it was toxic and not good for you, and you should quit. hal: i'm not excusing the behavior. jacki: no. hal: explanation is not autovac could see. jacki: i understand. hal: this is a very important part of the discussion. jacki: you make choices. hal: you have a chance to get out of it. there's a difference between having chernobyl happen from you or mess he will theme yes, ma'am ma suddenly catch you will with you.

the problem is, one lays nutritional standards and this kind of denial that happens in the american society. it ties right in, the obesity problem with our affect on the environment and climate change are totally interlinked. changing our behavior requires effort in these areas. it's easier to blame it on the disease and move on or say this is just the planet happening. there's a, you know i guess the variety of responses that people have to it are in addictive of that. jacki: let me just say i would much rather that the a.m.a. turn around and say let's work really hard putting physical education back into the schools and get fresh food into the cities, and teach kids about physical activity versus sitting on your butt watching television all day long. it's a multi-pronged approach instead of saying it's a disease. hal: many of them are but what

they're dealing with is there's a problem so far past that line, where the recovery process to them is like the chris christie situation, you're going to have to get stomach stapling or get it lassoed. jacki: but the answer isn't redefining it,. hal: i agree. you go into scary stuff when things are attached as a disease, because you attach a level of helplessness to it. jacki: exactly. hal: hi, anthony. caller: i came across this station, i heard you talking about about the profit motive and i'm a member of the libertarian party strong supporter of the free market. hal: sure, but not a fair market. go ahead. i'm messing with you, go ahead. caller: actually, the market becomes unfair when the government gets involved and starts picking winners and losers. hal: but don't say corporations

gather together and through price fixing and through, you know monopolies actually participate in messing with the market the same way. caller: yes that's true. hal: do they try to mitigate that factor? caller: the government is into price fixing. if they don't have the government to help fix the prices, they don't have the ability. jacki: that's not true. hal: they fix it amongst each other all the time. caller: wait a minute, we don't have a free market. we have a government involvement. we have essentially state corporatism. hal: when did we have a free market? caller: we never really did although it was freer before. hal: freer to what? caller: compared to now. hal: for who the corporate holders or the individual being acted on upon. what i'm saying is i don't necessarily buy that the total government solution or the total free market solution and libertarians tend to be in my experience in this discussion,

this kind of financial on you topians, which is childish. hal: that's not a government problem, it's corporate take over. that's fascism. caller: here's the point i wanted to make with regard to the profit motive. hal: right. caller: there was an evolutionary ballot that would cause you to rethink evolution. i would need to see a on the rabbit at the time of the dinosaurs. west germany would be the

economic basket case, east germany would have survived. hal: i completely disagree and have a reasonable argument. i think we have a structured form of socialism in this country and as they do in west germany, that is more moderated than a communityistic system, that is a more balanced approach to that. i think it's the imbalance of one direction or the other that causes the damage, because arguing, saying without a socialismesque structure, we had still have the wild west. the united states was a totally free market where strong actors could act on weak actors without any regulation whatsoever. the governmental interference in that factor saying no, just because someone isn't armed or doesn't have the physical strength to fight back against an aggressor we're setting laws in place. that's a form of government regulation and protection and that's exactly the circumstance

we're talking about. just saying that the u.s., because communism fails as a system that somehow the free market totally openness would is like saying that the soviet union still exists in basic structure because russia has become a gangster state. caller: what we need to get to is why what happened happened, in other words what were the factors that caused the united states to become the wealthiest nation the world has ever known and the soviet union to disappear. >> i'll give you two reasons. number one, we were able to borrow more money in our war build up than they were. caller: producing more. hal: one of the reasons we were producing more was because the greatest act of corporate welfare of the last hundred years was world war ii. during the course of world war

ii russia itself, great britain, france, all those companies producing stuff on a level that would compete with american industry, because they were all on the continent were wiped out. during the world war ii, the industrial capacity of europe was dropped back to near zero. at the same time, the united states was not attacked. our factory stayed in place and they were subsidized by the government during that period and by the bond structure people paying into the government specifically for building of military ships and military items that eventually rolled itself over into the production of cars, television sets washing machines and the like. american industry got a boot-strapping assist from world war ii that other countries did not. that's why we were over productive and had extra money to pay for that. caller: then explain germany.

germany was devastated. we have almost a perfect experiment as to what happens when the government is involved and when the government is not involved. west germany became an economic powerhouse, east germany. hal: west germany does more government intervention into their own private industries than almost any other country on the planet, didn't do austerity when they were telling everybody else to do it. also, when their auto industries took a dip in 2008 they paid the auto companies to keep people on the job. they didn't go through the pros of unemployment insurance folks. caller: who is they? hal: the government paid b.m.w. and mercedes to keep people employed so they wouldn't -- yes, they did. caller: the taxpayers paid. hal: you're right, you're right if you want to split that hair. the taxpayer paid b.m.w. and mercedes to keep in business, during the time they paid private industry to support them

and now those auto industries are solid again. i don't understand at what point you think that this -- and we got to take a break but. caller: ok. i appreciate you listening to me, by the way. it was a good discussion. hal: absolutely. i appreciate it, but i've heard this and i'm good friends with doug stanope. he ran in 2008. we've gone back and forth with this before. i think the fantasy of a free market is as egregious and silly that we're all going to live in a commune in san francisco was in the 1960's, based on a dream and a fantasy-based dream. it means that you have to be intentionally blind to the acts of history that have subverted that thought form. we'll take more of your calls. there are other people who want to chime in on this. there seems to be this big like

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hal: let's go back to these because we got a bunch of calls about climate change, the president giving a speech that everybody should read and look at has amazing points to it. a lot of i did if you've been keeping up with the issue you're very much on top of, and it won't surprise any of you but the surprising part was that he actually said it and went so far as, you know, in no uncertain terms that he's going to take executive action to deal with these things, because there is no way the republican congress in its current form will ever get anything through that isn't a repealable, obama car on a woman's right to choose. they're going to stonewall everything, pretend the i.r.s. scandal is a scandal even when it's not. that's been fun, by the way. i love the right wingers who hung their hat on the i.r.s. and how is ben goody working out for you? let's go to vicky in chicago. caller: oh my god i'm so

nervous i'm on the phone with hall sparks and jacki. hal: we'll treat you very nice, go ahead. caller: i'll try to catch my breath. this whole thing we switched from talking about global warm to go climate change, because that's what's happening is climate change, the planet is warming. this is indisputable. we can argue about why there's a lot of different models about what is going to happen as the planet warms. we can't really completely before i got it. what we know is that weather patterns are going to change. we don't know how they they're going to change and we're seeing that now. to argue about this as an emotional issue or a political issue, i mean, there's a moral aspect to it. but we've got to be rational, and scientifically, you know, look at things. the science on this is pretty solid. the question is we really don't know what is going to happen. it's going to be warmer, hotter, more floods, stronger storms,

but we can't say exactly what, when where. it's going to change, and we're seeing that. hal: right but what we're dealing with is our part in climate change, and that we have a responsibility that if we play any part in it and are endangering ourselves in that playing a part in it, even if it's not because of the heightening of the thing -- and by wait, i believe that's exactly what's happening and the raising of the temperature will affect what vegetation will grow and animals survive and cascade down to us in that process but let's say fluctuating weather and shifting water from a place it was not and now it is, will lead to the drowning of hundreds of thousands if not millions of people over time, that's important in the discussion. our response, if there are parts that we're not responsible for there's what we need to do as far as effort, get those people moved out of those areas.

if we are responsible we need to stop what we are doing that causes the damage. does that make sense? >> it makes sense. what we really need to do is stop giving air time to people who have an idea about something with no facts to back it up. hal: yes. caller: the planet is warming causing these changes and the evidence that it's human-caused, the warming of the planet is primarily related to carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, it's because of, you could argue about fee forestation and the other thing is fossil fuel use. if we don't change those two factors, it's game over. hal: well said. thanks for the call. we'll be right back after this. john fugelsang is joining us, he's actually awake and is going to be on the phone with us and answer the questions why jesus hates the trees. more on the "stephanie miller show." i'm hall sparks.

criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

♪ hal: 2000 the show. i'm hall sparks. joining us is the master himself, john fugelsang hi, john. >> good morning kids. jacki: good morning. hal: i haven't spoken to you in forever. >> you haven't. i'm on the phone with hall sparks and jacki. i'm so nervous! hal: you should be.

obviously, huge week and we thank steph for going out of town so that could happen. >> yes. hal: i'm sure you've been watching the response from the right. >> on which one? hal: exactly. you mean the glee about being able to disenfranchise black people and hispanics or the freak out of people being able to marry in 12 states. >> we had reverend jesse jackson on. it's amazing in one court the supreme court said if you're gay, you can marry but if you're gay black and poor, you might not be able to vote. hal: do you think it will have a black lash where the allows they tried to pass will actually cause people to double down on wanting to vote? >> oh, yeah, if they think they have found a way to make black people, old people, college people vote less, they have awakened a sleeping giant.

it's a sign that they're losing, terrified of the great caramel menace. all these guys are going to try to do whatever they can to make more white people and less old folks, college kids and poor people to vote. they're losing and we get to have the front seat of the historical freak show of them becoming unhinged for the next 20 years. hal: and the response to even the paula deen issue this week, you know, i've often said that you look at how bill o'reilly has responded to criticism when people use the n. word, or they don't seem to be able to single out a sing the race for scrutiny and get away with it, they think that's a violation of their rights as opposed to social criticism, this is all part of this panic isn't it? >> yeah, but in the case of

paula deen, we have covered her on viewpoint this week. a lot of lefties think it is a fluff story. i don't think it is. i grew up in a lot of this culture. there are folks out there who have no hatred, no malice in their heart they just can't stop the ignorant crap of their lips whenever they talk. if you look at bigotry as racial hate and perpetuating that culture, then it's fair to call her racist. i think we need a new word, i go far ram must racist. i call paula deen the inno racist. i think she's clueless. jacki: do you think she is being unfairly treated? >> yes, i do. she's being unfairly treated because she should have been thrown off the air and lost all these advertisers years ago when we found out that she had type

two diabetes and kept it a secret and was taking money from a diabetes drug manufacture while simultaneously selling people butter filled crispy cream marshmallow diet. hal: i totally agree. there's many reasons her issue was bigger than this. my problem. jacki: isn't that inherently the problem with our society we totally overlook that. hal: the pleasure and pain cycle. if there's more pleasure out of it we'll ignore the pain. >> you can poison your fellow americans with lard, butter fat and sugar for decades but say a bad word about them and then you get in trouble. paula deen doesn't hate one race, she hates the arteries of all races. hal: i will say that i agree with you that she's not a hatred-based racist. i will agree though, that she is a condescending racist, who

believes in the inherent lesser of the races and i will attribute that to her seemingly love of african-american people in her employ, as if they were pets. there is a way that she handled the hollis johnson person in her employee the man she said was as black as this board and hollis come out here, we can't see you in the dark. >> isn't that hilarious. that's like rush limbaugh with his barack the dancing negro chan. like donald trump with the birther racist conspiracy, saying i gave a chance to arsenio. they don't realize how they are a part of the problem. hal: i think she views them on the same level she would view a pet. i think that's a horrifying, more constant. you can be con fronted by your angry racism and have to defend it. in this, it's like when you talk

to somebody who calls their pets their children and having that conversation is really difficult to do, because they're not your children and children do have a higher stake, as well. but the way she was holding this guy's hand and saying i love him to death he's just wonderful. there's this kind of, almost like your. jacki: your patronizing. hal: you're petting a dog with a limping leg i love him so much, but if he got a little sick, you wouldn't mind if he was put down. there is an element to that and it's almost worse that that the overt racist, who's the congressional guys we're dealing with right now who are dealing with this. >> of course. hal: that black people and women shouldn't be ail to vote. >> bigots have their hatred out in the open. institutionalized have the cloaking device. you can't dress up a happy slave as your plantation themed wedding. hal: right. that's the stunning part, was

that that's where your kind of ignorant racist part comes in. she goes, they go how do you know in the deposition, saying how do you know that this isn't. wouldn't you think somebody would be offended. i don't know what offends people. yeah, you do. >> i'm tired of this whole argument that she's an older woman from a culture. she's 68. that means she was 38 in the 1970's. i have it on good authority that paula deen has been told that that word is hurtful to black folks. hal: by her own family members. >> yeah. i want to say it doesn't make her a bigot. i grew up seeing a lot of folks who would be saying, you know, n. word this, that, all day long but had a lot of black friends. up north i had folks who would never say the n. word but didn't want any of them in their house. racism is insidious and exists in all of us.

it's a cultural thing rather than a good old fashioned comedian rich bigotry that rush limbaugh still addresses. hal: i have to decide whether misogyny or racism is most important to him. jacki: which is he threatened by. that's where the hatred comes from. >> at this point who even know what rush limbaugh says. he's a hate monkey whose doing everything he can to keep his audience listening to him. rush limbaugh is a man who paid a married gay man millions of dollars to sing at his fourth straight wedding and he's freaking out of the evils of gay marriage. jacki: i have an interesting rush limbaugh story. somebody once signed me up for the rush limbaugh news letter. you can't get off of it until you put in your zip code. well, i don't know what zip code somebody put in for me, because

they put my email address in back when i was at cnn. he can say he has hundreds of millions of news letter followers on line, you can't get out of it. >> the n.r.a. counts their dead members as current numbers when they brag about their numbers too. hal: i'm sure you've been following the wendy davis story as well. it's amazing. do you think we're really at a tipping point where texas becomes purple and 2014 is a surprising shock for the right wing? >> oh, yeah, it's going to happen. that's why look, i don't want to make fun of rick perry because it's happy it's been done. it's a clear sign how nervous these guys are that within hours, within hours they tried to get this voter i.d. law back on the books. it's completely racist solution to a non-problem. there is no problem with voter

fraud in texas. hal: right. >> and with the abortion bill, it's much the same. i mean, the fact is that they literally are trying to turn back the clock. i thought, you know, wendy was terrific. i think that she -- it's good for democracy. you know, i hope that we'll be seeing a lot more of her. again, texas is going to keep trying to get it passed and let them. they're on the wrong side of history. it's going to hurt them in the long run. these guys don't care about the unborn. they care about shaking down pro life conservatives for votes and cash. they don't give a damn about what the bible says. i did a whole commentary on gees the other night. jesus never comes out against abortion. if you read the bible with, god is the leading cause of children being killed and fetuses being killed. jesus did come out against the

death penalty, and same night that wendy gave that filibuster, texas executed their 500th inmate, and it was a woman a different woman a woman who didn't make the headlines like wendy did. it shows the spiritual hypocrisy of this fake christian life where rick perry can say all life is sacred and sign another death warrant as the most executing governor in american history. jacki: wendy davis has gotten $240,000 in pledges for next run for office from members of move on. >> she's going to lose her job because of the gerrymandering anyway. a lot of people are asking for her to come in and run for governor. jacki: yeah. >> which would be great to see. hal: it looks like if anne ann richard, tougher and charm offensive to push forward she has got as much propensity to

run for governor as anybody. john fugelsang always great to talk to you. sorry there was no real news to discuss. [ laughter ] >> of course. hal: we thank steph or being out of town so all this stuff could happen during her break. >> sorry i couldn't join you guys in person, as well, there were thunderstorms in new york last night and i went from the current studio to the runway and sat for two hours. hal: there's a lot of that going around. we're glad you're safe and sound, travel safely and we'll all have the benefit of having you here next week. we would be the have been able to have you on camera anyway, because they were out for a little while. >> i heard. have a great morning and weekend, guys. it's a pleasure. thanks to everybody out there fighting the good fight. let's not let up. now is the time to get all your friends and friends' friends registered to vote now.

hal: they're going to put every blockade they can. good to get it in presently. we'll be back right after this with the waning moments of our final show together. jacki: meh. hal: hosting this week. it's been amazing. i think you should call in and say how amazing jacki is. jacki: stop it it will be like my mom. >> that is great radio. it's the "stephanie miller show."

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hal: welcome back. just the last few minutes of the show and it's been amazing. i want to thank the lovely and talented jacki sheckner. i'm going to be at the ontario improv sunday. my band is playing tonight in fresno at the stair line. jacki: road trip. hal: 833 fern avenue, look up star line in fresno and you'll find us. we go in tonight as part of -- it's a long story. jacki: the battle of the bands? hal: no, there's a horror convention in town and that kind of stuff and they wanted me there. jacki: you going to be in full makeup zombie. hal: we're playing tonight at the star line in fresno, and so if you're in that area, or have friends in that area, send, them, send them. sunday night at the ontario improv. improv.com i think is their website or go to my website. i did my pitch. jacki: i want to do a little

better and ernie. hal: that's what i wanted to get to real quick. the cover of the new yorker has better and ernie i guess looking at the supreme court. jacki: cuddled up watching t.v. and on it is the supreme court. hal: they're hugging. jacki: well, they're cuddled. hal: it's adorable. jacki: it's very cute. hal: it's called, the cover is titled better and ernie's moment of joy. jacki: ok. so the sesame street workshop issued a statement on their facebook page saying that they are not gay. it also says that they are best friends, they were created to teach preschoolers that people can be good friends with those different from themselves and identified as male characters and have human characteristics they are puppets and do not have a sexual orientation.

it's been an internet sensation for a while calling for them to get married. hal: it is very sweet. i get where they're coming from. jacki: before conservatives freak out and want to pull p.b.s. funding. hal: they want to pull p.b.s. funding because they keep insisting on spanish. [ laughter ] hal: let's go to donna in virginia. hi donna. caller: hello. hal: hello. jacki: not just a hi. good morning. caller: i am calling first of all to thank you for getting it. i am a black gay woman who has gone through tremendous ups and downs this week with all that has taken place. see, the thing is that when i leave the house no one knows i'm gay but they do know i'm

black. i was listening to you in the last conversation, and one of the things that i see is taking place is people are decent to each other more so than they are not. they think this decency has eliminated all forms ofisms"." i let that person go ahead of me therefore i'm a good person. i'm not a racist, a sexist, i'm not a homo phone. they're not clear anymore. nobody is burning crosses on the front yard, but the attitudes that as you stated very clearly and thank you, is that i am a better person than that person. they are not the same as me. hal: right there's this subtle

kind of condescension that goes with it. i find it almost more worrisome the soft cuddly paula deen racism over the overt clanesque stuff. jacki: you know what you're dealing with. hal: it's more consistent. it's not hiring practice of businesses, within the voting rights elimination that are going on in the states. you're absolutely right donna but, you know, what the answer is, i can't tell you. i think it's really just a matter of time, that generation ally it's going to be a shift. caller: i am in the baby boomer generation, and when i was in my early 20s, there was writings that when the generation before me passes on all these isms will disappear. now that i am a senior citizen

and listening to the younger people out here, they are saying when all the baby boomers are gone, so i'm not sure if these things will disappear. hal: you have to understand, there are people in this -- and i appreciate the call. we're up near the end of the show, thank you so much for walking in donna. we're at a point where there are people on this planet at different points of the evolutionary cycle women rights gay rights, minority rights. people in our countries the majority have the same issue with other people. that's the human arc of protectionism and stuff that is equated oftentimes with what is familiar. it's childish and will take us time to get past it. there is a quickening about it, that i find affirming. it has a lot to do with media. it has a lot to do with access. it's way hard tore convince your children that, you know, of all your racist reasoning for not liking black people if you see

them. that was the issue before, when there are no black people on t.v. except the ones we could carefully craft as a character then i could convince you. jacki: >> issue people, too. you think they have horns. hal: and gay people, all pedophiles. all these mythologies are built on the idea that you won't run into one. media solves that problem and opens the door for people when they move into neighborhoods and stuff. they've had a precursor in the media. that's why the media is important, the message is important. that's why corporate control over these limited messages are a very toxic thing in media. openness is very important. thank you so much. it's been a great week. thanks to everyone in the chat room. jacki: you did a great job. >> thanks tony, t-bone. stephanie will be back monday. have a great weekend.

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