[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> stephanie: hello, current tv land, our number one why looky here. tommy in columbus has sent me a headline why jacki is confirm confirming orgasm. i'm clearly going to the wrong exercise class. women have orgasm while they exercise. >> i know about the endorphin

boost from exercise and the endorphins after the exercise. but not during. >> stephanie: walking and hiking and i'm picking up dog poo, i don't know if that's the biggest part of my day. >> your pants aren't tight i couldn't. >> stephanie: yes, well jacki, we'll find some new spinning classes. >> good morning everyone, the crime lynn says that nsa leaker edward snowden has given up on trying to get asylum in russia. he has stranded in the moscow airport for a week now, and the russian president said he would have to stop leaking information. and snowden did not want to comply with his request. so far india has said no, poland

has said no the only one so far has not said no is bolivia. he claims that president obama has left him stateless pay no attention that he himself fled the united states. meanwhile, former congresswoman gabby giffords and her husband are keeping up the fight for more gun legislation. especially expanded background checks. >> giffords and kelly are in alaska on the seven-week tour to

gain support. she went and shot a gun yesterday for the first time since she was shot in the head in 2010. we're back after the break. >> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar.

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>> i'm not sure i wanted that to be public knowledge. >> stephanie: he can out sick today. >> he is sick. his ass is sick. >> stephanie: we wish it well, and we wish it a speedy recovery recovery. jumping into the fray. >> yes, a fine ass. [ partridge family music ] >> and your head as well. we went to say your brain. >> i'm not entirely sure how to react to that. >> stephanie: good morning. >> i'm flattered and mortified all at the same time. >> stephanie: yes, well, welcome to "the stephanie miller show." jacki, as i mentioned we're clearly going to the wrong spinning classes. a study confirming women have orgasm during exercise, the

exercise is climbing poles and ropes. >> is that an euphemism or actual poles. >> stephanie has not climbed a pole in years. >> stephanie: weight lifting. >> waste lifting? >> stephanie: i'm surprised you haven't exploded why orgasm. so 51.4%, others have reported having an orgasm while waste lifting, yoga and yoga is

slitty. walking and hiking. you are talented if you can have an orgasm while walking. i think if you have to pick up poo from your giant dog then it dims your prospects. >> what about if you're chris christie. >> his thighing rubbing together. >> stephanie: he must come bust like a spinal tap drummer. now u jacki. >> gosh, i missed you guys. >> stephanie: i missed you, too, binki. at the top of the hour he reported the latest on snowden. it's hilarious. yesterday we we were saying it was the "he terminal," tom hanks. >> i think it's great. two separate conversations here. there is the conversation about the nsa, surveillance, and what we're doing as a country.

that's a totally legitimate conversation we should be having, and then the conversation of how snowden has boxed himself in. >> stephanie: we need a new goldie hawn, something, some remake of what. >> "protocol." >> stephanie: good times," something. >> "the money pit." >> the "money pit" was shelly long. >> her ex-husband was the russian guy. >> that's a stretch. >> stephanie: we're sidetracking from the news. >> he was a conductor. >> yeah, so, he was russian. >> oh, come on. >> stephanie: the latest so what happened. >> come back to us. >> stephanie: yes. >> so the latest the crime lynn said that snowden has has given up because vladimir putin said you got to stop leaking

u.s. secrets. >> stephanie: just saying no to kremlin. >> if a guy cheats on his girlfriend and leaves to be with you, you should also know that he's going to cheat on you. that's what is happening here. countries are saying, dude you turned on the u.s. you're going to turn on us. >> stephanie: that was good. >> oh, you cheated on the u.s. you're going to run around on me. >> stephanie: if he tried to go back to the girlfriend. >> the pole dancer. >> stephanie: she would be yeah, talk to the hand. >> wikileaks is now saying it's seeking asylum for snowden in 19 countries, and there is a list of who said what, and the best one so far is bolivia but we haven't gotten that request for asylum. >> stephanie: again, i know we've taken shrapnel from

liberals for just saying he's a hero but the other thing the fact that he does not want to stop leaking u.s. secrets? >> he doesn't want to stop. that's fine, we talked about that last week, too. it's fine if he wants to talk about what the u.s. government may be doing within u.s. borders. again, that's a conversation i'm happy to have. but when you run to hong kong and telling them what we're doing as a patriot and to our allies, you don't look like a patriot any more and the fact that he doesn't stop talking it's more about him. >> stephanie: chris doesn't stop talking. >> i can't get the cd in.

>> stephanie: he's having a morning. putin said he had to stop leaking secrets if he wanted asylum but snowden had no intention to do so. >> now that he has withdrawn his application indicates he knows he has to stop and he doesn't want to stop. he has given up on putin. >> if he wishes to stay here he has one condition. he must stop his work at aiming to harm our american partners. >> stephanie: why don't i trust anybody here. that putin isn't an agent. >> i don't trust snowden putin the nsa, i don't trust anybody. >> yes, i mean there is really a total credibility gap in a lot of this. the new little development also is that wikileaks which has applied for asylum for snowden

in 19 countries say this is an official statement from edward snowden, and a lot of journalists are questioning the authenticity of this, if it was written by snowden or julian assange because the syntax is very european. we don't refer to the united states as plural it has, not have ahave. >> mr. snowden is not our agent. he never was and today is not. our special services have never worked with him and don't work with him. >> stephanie: i was in the kgb. when would i do anything sneaky. >> yes, you can trust putin or not trust him as much as you want but i would incline to not, but at the same time this does not look good for snowden.

>> rocky mountain mike said he's going around picking up the luggage carts for the $0.25 rebate. >> there just only so much you can do in the no-man land in moscow airport. how much duty free perfume can you find? >> i think you're going to be likely. you're going to get borst and you're going like it. >> ice chips. >> stephanie: this is from the president. >> there have been high-level discussions with the russians about finding a solution to the problem. >> stephanie: you know, it's interesting, jacki, i don't know if you saw this in the media jacki but there was a whole list of former nsa people who have defected, right? and nsa leaker has been offered

sanctuary from putin that he stops his unhealthy habit of talking to the press. and we would no longer embarrass the american community. that may be it. that may be what's happening just tell us. don't leak it to the public. >> everything about this is so shady. do you glen greenwald was on fox. >> yes, i was on fox yesterday morning after all the things he said about fox news. >> stephanie: really. secrets about american intelligence gathering techniques and the methods are less heartening. the story of nsa defector edward

lee howard describes a similar ability to adjust. >> inability to adjust? they don't have the freedom we have here. >> stephanie: huh, he suffocated himself with his own car's exhaust. now what jacki, is the next question. >> don't think he thought this through. he was living in hawai'i with his cute girlfriend. >> stephanie: might have googled median questions in iceland. >> yes, it's all kind of a big mess for him at the moment. what's interesting in this letter he calls himself and we don't even know if he wrote this, but he calls himself stateless and compares himself to bradley manning. and he's only stateless because he took off. he stranded himself. i mean, he didn't leak this and then hunker down. he leaked, took off and then made himself the center of attention. you got your passport and then

turned against the u.s. >> you say we shouldn't be having these discussions. but there is a piece in why bush and the fourth amendment and why obama has not. we can debate if this is constitutional, and if this is a way we should run our surveillance. >> i think we can have both of these conversations. you're going to ignore human nature and say this isn't a fascinating story? of course it is. it has twists and turns and it's very soap operatic, is that a word welcome it's interesting to see how this will all play out it's a separate story from what he's leaking. oh that sounds awful. >> stephanie: yes. >> that's jim's story. >> stephanie: that's classified, ick. top of the hour, we roll along on "the stephanie miller show."

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coming up with great charlie kind of stuff. jim is out sick. i know you might think he's late because of driving in california. we have driving problems. frequently it's a traffic situation which is why we need california gps. >> you know, i want to get to that place that sells mexican style chairs. >> we'll go up to mulholland. >> what, at this time of day? it will be jammed. >> i can recalculate the route so i can take you to sunset and ventura that takes you past that stand that sells fresh tangerines. >> i changed my mind. i want to go to that scented candle shop on melrose. take me to vermont. >> i'm afraid i can't let you do

that. >> what are you doing. >> this route is too important for me to allow you to recalculate it dave. >> what? >> davey davey. >> totally not cool. [ car crashing ] >> the californian gps. don't let your gps put you on beverly glen i want to know if you can take pico to the 101 and off to melrose. >> stephanie: we'll be stuck on that all day. thank you rocky mountain mike. we spend most of our time and brain power here in l.a. what, i could have taken pico all along? [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> stephanie: a lot is going on, wow, have you seen a picture of the hot shots the firemen oiy.

every single one of them died in this tragedy. they were moving the truck or reposition or something. >> our hearts and prayers go out to the families of the brave firefighters who were out there. >> stephanie: they were struggling for answers after 19 highly trained firefighters were trapped by fire because of wind blowing, the investigators could not figure out why the men were not able to retreat to a safe zone. the fire sparked by lightening on friday raged out of control for a fourth day and described as zero-percent contained even though there were 400 firefighters trying. the firefighters undergo a

draining fitness program. the things that they pull over them. >> they're basically fire-retardant tents. they have 30 seconds to get under the thing and close it up. they just didn't have enough time. >> stephanie: so officially there was only one survivor who might have been repositioning equipment. what a tragedy. the president again. >> obama: this is one more reminder that the fact our first responders put their lives on the line every single day and every time we have a community in crisis, a disaster strikes, we've got people in need, firefighters, law enforcement officers, they run towards the danger. >> stephanie: yeah. and the president one more time yesterday. >> and he was in africa saying all this. >> obama: we are heartbroken about what happened. obviously we're prepared to prideprovide any support we can in

investigating how this took lace. >> and governor brewer in arizona yesterday. governor brewer yesterday. >> to friends and family of those lost yesterday i know we can never fully repay the sacrifices made by your loved ones. >> stephanie: all right, earl in north carolina, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, earl. >> hi, stephanie how are you. >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> what i have to say is about paula dean. i think people have it a little wrong. it's not what she said, it's how he acted afterwards. no operation was a sniveling crying apology. it makes them look weak. when people started dumping her it was right after that. >> stephanie: it makes you wonder is she crying for herself and her business. then i think didn't on the

"today" show she said the word once in her life? that's not believable, particularly in the deposition she admitted to more. >> no, she said only ones. she was accused of saying it more, but she only said once. >> stephanie: does anybody believe she said it only once in her whole life. >> well, being from that part of the country this is another mistake she made. if she had not come up and apologized for her heritage. what she learned as a child was wrong, but to apologize for your heritage, it's the tradition down there. >> stephanie: to use the n-word. >> it was at one point. >> stephanie: let's talk about that. 29 minutes after the hour. we'll be right back on "the stephanie miller show."

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[ ♪ music ♪ ] [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show," welcome to it. 34 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12, the phone number toll-free from anywhere. now we've stirred the paula dean buoibase. and here is a caller who said we should forgive paula dean, and

this is a guy who has been called a sand n-word, he's arab. >> i grew up where the h n-word was all around me, and you grew up knowing that it was wrong. >> stephanie: i didn't grow up in the south. i grew you have in buffalo new york, and i grew up around two kids whose families regularly used that word. >> i always said as a young person there was always the as much racism in the north as there was in the south. just a different kind. paula dean does not get any kind of a pass no matter what her heritage is. >> everybody has a different

bone to pick with her. she has incorporateed black southern cooking and the other legitimate criticism is the kind of food she's pushing without revealing he she had diabetes and planning a deal with a pharmaceutical company. >> she was trying to atone for her sins. the bookshelves trying to public before her publisher dumped her. she was rewriting her old recipes, making them healthier so there is that. >> stephanie: yes, i've talked about that before, growing up in the 70s there were definitely kids i went to school with in the north. we didn't in our house, and we knew, just as kathy in colorado was saying, we knew it was intrinsically wrong. we didn't use that word. >> my high school graduation after party was held in

virginia, and the black people and the jewish people in my class were not allowed to attend because the club did not allow-- >> stephanie: the buffalo country club that we belonged to, no blacks or jews, i was a kid, i didn't understand that. >> i had no idea that that went on in 1987, that floored me. >> stephanie: i had a friend when went, blrp-blrp. it's the jew radar. my friend had a best all around black, and they didn't know there was anything wrong with it. we'll go to a caller. good morning. >> caller: good morning. you said you wanted to talk about growing newspaper up in the

south i grew up in alabama. in my household it was the only good one was a dead one. you're raised that way. but you have to broaden your horizons and broaden your mind to know interest is there is good and bad in every race and every nationality, there is no all-bad, period. >> stephanie: she felt they she had a right to say the n-word and people could decide how they felt about that. she didn't get fired. she walked away from a multi-million dollar contract. >> caller: out here there is what i call it closet racism. we're in the south you do know whether somebody likes you or

not, you know for your safety to just stay away. when it's a closet prejudicism you don't know that until they stab you in the back, and that's worse. >> stephanie: i'm gay, there are still a lot of states i can be fired in. she can get fired. sponsors and livers had a right to react to that. >> and they did. >> stephanie: and that thing that she said was particularly venomous, and people reacted the way people did and that didn't mean that people were taking away her first amendment rights. >> she screamed that people took away her first amendment rights but nobody did. >> stephanie: hello. >> caller: on the gay issues, one of the thing that i think is weird people who are opposed to gay rights seem to accept that you shouldn't discriminate against people based on characteristics, gender, race, whatever, but they think it's

okay to discriminate on sexual orientation because it's a choice. they ignore the fact that religion is a choice, and yet we have a ban on discriminateing against religion. people choose to convert whatever, religion is a choice. >> stephanie: since when is it okay to discriminate against anybody in america. i repeat it because it's stuck in my head. were you born with a desire to sleep with someone of the opposite, who cares. >> caller: yes, you said that yesterday. point number two, i felt chris on conan o'brien, you should have him on your program. >> stephanie: we would love to have him on our program, as we have several times. >> caller: and you need sparkle

ponies. >> stephanie: get on that, travis. let's go to natasha in georgia on the paul da paula dean. >> caller: stevie, i want you to know that i love your show, and chris, you're so hot. i want to get in on the paula dean conversation. what i want to say about that is i was born and raised in south carolina and because of the fact that paula dean said what she said, but there are so many african-americans in south carolina and areas of the south that just ignore that type of language. we heard it so much that we don't pay any attention to it any more. it doesn't make it right, but we just don't. i'll give answer example, too, of the type of situation that you have down there. let's not forget that in 2000 was when they took the

confederate flag down from the top of the state house dome. i was in south carolina that day. and i never seen so many people yelling that word. i watched as the marchs peaceful peacefully marched down the street to the south carolina state capitol and that word was just hurled so many times during the day that it was unbelievable unbelievable. >> stephanie: we don't mean to say that everyone who is mentally challenged is a bigot. i'm just saying. >> caller: it's so prevalent and for instance, when i go home to visit my parents i actually hate to go there because there are people who will actually stand at a doorway she see me coming from across the parking lot, but because i'm african-american i've had old ladies stand there and wait for me to open the door for them.

they're at the door, and they wait for me to open the door for them. that's the kind of thing that we have happening in the south. >> not to make big trouble. >> stephanie: yeah, you know, we were saying this. we all grew up in different eras, i grew up north and i was joking about nobody ever said the n-word in our house. it was understood, but it was a whispery. >> announcer: in case you never noticed he's... black. >> announcer: oh my goodness, he's black. >> michael: that was my mom. >> announcer: in case you haven't noticed he's black. >> michael: mom, you have testicles, what the hell? lisa in houston you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi lisa. >> caller: hi, stephanie how are you doing?

>> stephanie: good. >> caller: this snowden thing, that's what i called about. i told you guys early this thing is going to fall apart because this man is being coached into doing this. we already figured that out when he met with them in march. what is happening in these countries, especially ecuador the people rose up against their leader. and last month they said you passed a bill that locked several people in jail that did less than mr. snowden, and they told him to leave america alone because they did not want to lose the revenue and the monies they have gotten from the united states. that's why he backed off because the people rose up. that's what is happening in a lot of these places. they're talking, and he's picking countries that is treating their people like dogs and he didn't know they would come out say

how dare you you're treating people worse here for doing less than what he has done to america. >> stephanie: yes. >> caller: i'm going to leave you with this. paul da lean i'm from the south. i was raised in louisiana. i love paula dean's spicy chicken recipe, but we cannot say this. you have black people who should use words that they should not. it has to be a two-way dialogue. yes, she was wrong but those who discriminate and treat white america wrong, they are wrong too. so for us to have a dialogue, we've got to include everybody. >> stephanie: that is a good point, lisa, and this cracky cracker thanks you. by the way, we mentioned this yesterday, but one reason why we clearly not just paula dean, but

clearly racism still exists in america. just based on the fox news zimmerman coverage of the trial. we'll talk more about that when we come back. >> announcer: call instead stephanie miller she's easy, 1-800-steph-12.

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>> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 50 minutes after the hour, 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll-free from anywhere. michael tomasky from the daily beast, the agest attack against hillary. they're warming up in the bullpen. >> that's right. >> stephanie: we've been talking about paula dean. if you need any more evidence, not just paula dean but what happened with the voting rights act, we need the voting rights act there is still racism in america. it's the fox news coverage of the zimmerman trial. >> the away think treated people on the stand. >> stephanie: a young girl who is not accustomed to being on a witness stand, i mean, they put her on trial just like they have tried to put trayvon on trial. >> yes. >> stephanie: by the way, did you see this part, fox news speculateed that martin could

kill someone with his skittles, and the arizona ice tea bottle he was carrying. [ whatever ] >> stephanie: fox news adopts the position that zimmerman was the victim. >> because he's the one left alive. >> stephanie: and the use of a lynch mob in the term of ann coulter. hannity could not help but bring up the new black panthers in an interview with zimmerman. >> all five of them? >> stephanie: how unfortunate it was that the defendant's name has been dragged through the mud. and i was listening to our buddy marsha clark and there are a lot of inconsistencies. his injuries are not consistent

of being pummeled or whatever his story is. you know, on the tapes several times he refers to trayvon as the suspect. first of all, deputy dog he's not suspected of anything of anyone except for you, mall cop. >> he's mall cop. >> stephanie: barney fife. we got the suspect. >> barney fife had a badge. this guy had nothing. >> stephanie: he was in trouble when his legal team quit last year with a phone call to hannity that had not been authorized. this is his legal representation incredible. and they made it into a racial thing. all right. byron in detroit you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, byron. >> caller: how are you doing. i'm kind of nervous first-time caller. >> stephanie: don't be nervous.

>> caller: i'm calling about paula dean. i'm not mad about how she used the n-word, it was the way she treated people. >> that's what she was on trial for, the way she treated her employees. >> caller: you can call me the n-word but don't treat me like the n-word. >> stephanie: her brother was obviously a racist jerk. >> caller: he said, i have black friends. but to say that he's as black as that door over there. that made me mad. but if you have an old lady whose grandaddy had slaves in the south i don't care. but you don't treat people like the n-word.

>> stephanie: i have a problem. hello caller. >> caller: paula dean is a symbol of the south, and the other symbol is the confederate flag. since jim isn't here let me make the first nazi reference. how is the confederate flag not like a nazi swastika. africa menafrican-americans, hundreds died on the slave ships. >> stephanie: yes, i agree with with you. marvin. >> caller: yes, i'm glad paula dean is gone. she is an old-school southern bigot, no surprise there plus alarmingly her food is bad for people too. it's a good double-double. but that word, it's a heinous word, and from the school that it should be abolished. the unspoken argument is how

prevalent it is used in the black community. i work in chicago and it's everywhere, and the kids use it in a conversational manner. the asians white black kids in my diverse school district, and black america has not i don't believe it's been actively attempted--you can't have it both ways. it's not americans are not going to try and see the differences in the uses. that's really not realistic. and we all know there is a difference in the uses of that word. but you can't accept that word to go away--expect that word to go away when it's used so prevalently in pop culture. >> stephanie: i have to say, and i'm just a lame-ass white girl. but i heard a yesterday and i don't get that, but talking about one of our previous callers, oh, i don't care that much about the word, it depends on how you use it, if you use it

in a friendly way. really? is there a friendly way to use that word welcome i will be awfully careful in my in your tone. >> caller: you have to get rid of it or you can't be outraged. you cannot have a word that is acceptable. you can't just say, you can guys can use it, and you guys can't. >> the kids are getting it from music. have you listened to a lot of hip-hop music? it's every other word. >> caller: well, yes. >> stephanie: ed a a lame-ass white woman i get uncomfortable in spinning class. i don't think it's okay. >> caller: paula dean, like i said, no surprise, like the previous caller. that's antebellum south. that's just going to die out. that's the ugliness of the word. but what's going on now is just really alarming, and no one--

one--they think it's out there. >> stephanie: i just wonder if its like chris is alluding to, the couple of black people i've talked to, the word doesn't bother them. how come it bothers me? even in a song it makes me uncomfortable. >> caller: that's not true. you see outrage every time white america used that word there is big outrage, and there should be outrage. look, if a black man said he doesn't mind using it, look, i'm--no, i'm not going to go there. >> you're really not in a position to say no, you can't use that. >> stephanie: michael tomasky joins us next on "the stephanie miller show." [ ♪ music ♪ ] [ ♪ music ♪ ]

[ ♪ music ♪ ] >> stephanie: all right, our number two, current tv land, michael tomasky of of the daily beast coming up. jacki schechner, your thoughts on the paula dean thing. >> i'm not a fan of the kind of food that she cooks anyway, i am with the caller who said it's probably better she does not put it out there. but calling it the n-word gives it more power. and i think it's context that

matters. and cnn did a whole special on this on the use of the word. i think context matters and i think that's important. but it's a longer conversation. >> stephanie: are you uncomfortable in spinning class like i am in spinning class. >> you know what, i don't like the anti-woman rhetoric, a lot of those songs i don't like--there is a lot of-- >> stephanie: yet, do we boycott spinning class and risk gaining one pound? no we do not. the fat free jacki schechner. >> good morning everyone. senator majority leader mitch mcconnell faces competition by by allisonallison lundgren grimes.

>> his ads are based out of fear. this kentucky does not believe that the voters of kentucky will be fooled that easily. >> she has a shot. she's 34, attorney, and daughter of a state democratic party chairman and mcconnellly has been tying grimes to the president and senator harry reid. representative don young plans to file paperwork again to run for congress. he'll be running for his 21st term in office. he won last time 2-1 margin, but because he's 80 years old there has been speculation of retire retirement. in egypt there have been an ultimatum for president morsi calling him to step down or they'll step in.

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>> good morning. >> stephanie: hello, new crush. >> you don't know. i might have bad breath. there are all kinds of words. >> stephanie: it doesn't matter in the tv world. it's all good. i worship from afar and i would up close. you are writing where republicans talking about hillary clinton getting old. you are talking about why that might backfire. >> well, as i said on an earlier show this morning there are some fair questions about her age right? she'll be about as old as ronald reagan was when he took office. there were questions about his age when he ran so there are fair questions but the republicans being the republicans will tend to concentrate on the unfair ones. >> stephanie: right, she will be 69 if she runs, correct and turns 70 in her first year in office. >> that's right comparatively to reagan, about eight or nine

months younger at the same point. but this is a lot of ifs but if she were to serve two terms that, would put her into her late 70s, and you know, in the late 70s things start to go. she's going to have a chance to answer those questions and she's going to be able to show how on the ball she is, astute she is, stamina and the republicans will going to be making snide remarks, it will backfire on them. >> stephanie: you make the larger point. so now the republicans having tried sexism against having for two decades, they're ditching that and going for ageism. with the party of todd aiken and whether vaginal probes are helpful, they're adding ageism

to the list indictments. you're saying this is not playing well for women for a lot of reasons. >> making fun of a woman for her age, you can picture mitch mcconnell, rush limbaugh sean hannity, that's going to be really appealing. >> stephanie: right, right and i think again what your point is they're going to try oh we're the party of the young and the future and the next generation. you say several g.o.p. operatives talking to the "times" this weekend and saying it's time for the clintons to step off the age because a lot of their nominations are going to be younger. >> they're going to nominate someone who is in their 40s maybe 50s. they're going to push that argument, but the problem with that argument is issues. all the issues that many many polls tell us that young people

care about are issues where the republicans are occupying a deeply reaction near position. young people support same-sex marriage, immigration reform, doing something about climate change, how about healthcare and obamacare where people up to age 26 can stay on their parents' plans, which the democrats support and the republicans want to repeal. i could go on and on, but there is hardly a single thing that republicans are for except rand paul on domestic surveillance, that's one issue on a list of eight. >> stephanie: you know michael they tried this at their convention the republicans make the same mistake all the time with groups they don't talk to or know much about, which is why they still lost the latino vote 80-something percent to 20-something percent. >> right, they try to make latinos, saytheseinroads saying that

latinos are as conservative as they are. but they're not really natural conservatives, but the republicans always do this thinking that we can get them by having a spanish-language state you know, tv station or page on our website or something. people want a little more than that. they're not that stupid. >> stephanie: exactly. they count on people being stupid. rather than having policies that are in step with this generation, oh here is someone who is closer to your age right? >> yes, exactly. >> stephanie: also you say just as republicans cemented the loyalty that a lot of women feel by hillary so they will do again, and they'll make her a figure of sympathy in america as they did before. talk about hardwired they so

seed for hatred and so incapable of seeing that the vast americans do not share their hatred, and she has been the most admired woman in the last 20 years and will do things to turn young people into ardent defenders. that's an interesting point. >> i am sure they look at those surveys, thinking they must be rigged. but fact is the fact. 17 of the last 20 years, pretty remarkable run the most admired woman in america, and by the way, that's not just september septegenarians speaking. there are a lot of women in their 20s who grew up when they were first learning about the world they looked at the tv, bill clinton was the president and hillary clinton was the first lady. in their head she is the model of what the first lady is supposed to be. these are women who are now in

their 20s they vote, and i think they probable probably most of them, not all of them, but a strong majority have a lot of respect for having. >> stephanie: and you went through all of the issues. of course she's more in step, not just young people, but everybody, but you say she will be the one who supports equality in all its forms instead of owe poising it in all its forms. she will be the candidate that every candidate will be stumping, and she's be the candidate that is not home for bigots and racists. >> these are all important things for young people. a couple of months ago the college republicans released that poll that showed how out of step their party was with young people. if you look at the results of the poll, apple are liberal on economic and government issues. they support higher taxes on rich people. so you know, republicans are just--it's just top to bottom out of touch.

>> stephanie: well, you know, i think that's why this voting rights decision is so troubling isn't it? i said this during the last election. it seems like instead of coming up with ideas that appeal to these groups, they only can think of how do we suppress that vote. >> exactly. so they respond to that decision by doubling down on voter suppression. again, this is substance. people notice these things. having more black singers at your convention does not really make up for this. >> stephanie: michael, interestingly leading up to the supreme court decisions on gay rights, i mean, here we go now. it's going--there are going to be fights state by state, but it seems like that ship has sailed. it seems like they're on the wrong side of history and they'reing there to be flailing. >> and they'll stay on the wrong side of history.

this legislative debate. how do they go from saying last november we have to embrace this or otherwise we're going to be doomed to saying today it's a phoney issue. we don't have to embrace it. we'll win with the white vote. forget latinos we'll win with the white vote. this is really--i was going to say that i shouldn't say on radio. let me consider that for another couple of weeks but this is really--this almost like becoming a pseudonationallist party or something like that. >> stephanie: right, the headlineer i read. gay married men in florida are approveed for green card. i feel white republican heads exploding. [ explosion ] let's hope they will go the way of the whigs.

michael tomasky, a great piece a piece on the g.o.p. attacks on ageism and hillary. isn't he just cute? >> really. >> stephanie: rush limbaugh had said something will, i don't know if anyone wants to watch a woman age in front of his eyes. he said, he probably creates ten more clinton voters every time he opens his fat mouth. i love michael tomasky. steve, hi, steve. >> caller: good morning. >> stephanie: good morning. >> caller: i want to talk about the paula dean story as well as bigotry and prejudice in general. to me bigotry and prejudice is about ignorance. if you have never come in contact with a particular issue or if you've not come in contact

with blacks, if you've not come in contact with immigrants, if you have not come in contact with gay folks then you don't have a clue. and in the south there is a lot of ignorance particularly around race, immigration and the gay issue. in the paula dean situation 30 years ago in anger and fear she screamed the n-word, but her life since then has indicated that she has come in contact with education. she has changed. she now understands. things she has done-- >> stephanie: how do you know that steve? >> caller: well, her employees are sticking up for her. the fact that she donates money and has foundations that help poor folks including blacks, is she.she is heavily involved.

>> stephanie: jimmy carter made that point that a lot of programs do serve the black population. steve, i think you make some points. we're going to talk about this more with dean obeidallah, do we forgive paula dean and your thoughts on it. 17 minutes after the hour. we continue on "the stephanie miller show"." >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." [ ♪ music ♪ ]

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igay married man approved for green card. [ explosion ] >> stephanie: an american man in florida and his husband who is from bulgaria, has been the first same-sex couple that has made this milestone after after the gay marriage was struck down. those couples who have been denied, those decisions will be reversed without reapplication. people get to be with the people they love, so there neener. let's go to john in chicago. hi john, welcome. >> caller: hey, steph, how are you doing. >> stephanie: good. >> caller: i have to take issue with the earlier caller who was

fighting with the n-word and say we need to stop. all ethnic groups, black jewish we all make jokes among ourselves about slurs. but amongst ourselves we have fun with it. this weekend i was in a pride parade, and i had a great time. my friends were comfortable and they were having fun. i did not feel that my rights were infringed upon and the use of usage of slurs were against me. >> stephanie: meaning that it's okay to use certain slurs among friends. >> caller: no, no, i was at a function, where my friends were members of the lgbt community. they were having fun relaxed blowing things back and forth laughing things i couldn't say

and i never felt that i needed to say them. >> stephanie: i take it your straight john. >> caller: i'm straight. for instance, if you were around me an my black friends, and we were throwing around the n-word and in jokes i would think that you would not feel justified in using it. >> stephanie: john, i don't know. maybe i'm old fashioned i don't think it's ever okay for a. white person to ever use the n-word. >> caller: that's what i'm saying. the thing with john john lezcano. never once did i feel that i could use that word. when people use slurs that are directed as a community it does not entitle people who are not part that have community to use it. >> stephanie: i get what you're saying, it's not it's up up to us

to make the rules of, say words used among gay men. >> it's the power of the bigots, the people themselves using the word. >> stephanie: i'm not saying that black people shouldn't use that word at each other. i don't think it's right for white people to use it. >> caller: to chastise them for using the word or to think that i could use the word. >> stephanie: john my point is i have never heard many contexts where it's okay for people to use the f-word for gay men. >> caller: everyone will use black usage of it to justification of it. we would never say you tell jewish jokes, we can use that jewish word. >> stephanie: yes, but people would use that word when they

were beating and flogging i don't think there is an okay way to use that word. >> caller: i think we're on the same page. >> stephanie: i'm not arguing with you. >> caller: in defense of paula dean oh, she used it 30 years ago. in 2007 she was in charge of her brother's wedding. that's when she said she wanted a bunch of black people like little ns walking around over. >> stephanie: tap-dancing little ns. >> that is according to a complaint filed against her. i'm trying to be a stickler with the legal. >> caller: a couple of years ago she was on the tv show, and the host wanted her to introduce her friend, and she turned around and said, she needs to step away% from that black backdrop, they can't see you. they're acting like this happened 30 years ago this is all in the last five or six

years. >> stephanie: again, if you're believing, you know if you read the whole deposition, it's a lot. >> yes, it is. >> stephanie: steve you're on "the stephanie miller show"." >> caller: my dad was born and raised in new york. >> stephanie: yes. >> caller: what i would rely to that man in georgia he said its ignorance. it's not ignorance. there are so proverbs that he needs to learn. you don't give out this other stuff to people who don't prepare to have children. >> stephanie: huh? >> caller: second, the second proverb, you can't wash a negro white. detroit during the 1960s. >> stephanie: what now? that's a proverb?

>> caller: yes wash a negro white. >> stephanie: a proverb from where? a book in german. >> stephanie: that just took a turn for the odd. that's one i had not heard. >> i wish jim were here here to translate that german, and give us insight in that proverb. >> stephanie: charlie pierce next on "the stephanie miller show." to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it.

in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

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>> announcer: stephanie miller. >> i knew it all along she's the same irresponsible train wreck she always was. >> stephanie: yep. that's why people must stop and watch. 34 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll-free from anywhere. there is only one who understand the author of america. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> stephanie: charlie pierce political columnist for esquire.com. >> stephanie: good morning charlie pierce. >> have you got your pink sneakers on? >> stephanie: in honor of marriage equality. >> no, wendy davis pink sneakers. she wears pink sneakers every day, so what the hell difference

bus it make. >> stephanie: i'm not of the cause, i puzzled you on your sisterhood it really doesn't sound good. >> how about that wendy davis and how about that rick perry. >> one of them has really good air, and it's not rick davis. >> stephanie: rick perry, you mean. >> whowho is the hell is rick davis davis? probably some outfielder i interviewed once. it's almost 11:00 at the east coast. >> stephanie: now you brought up with what is going on with wendy davis. i don't know if you bother to read right-wing tweets. >> now we don't have to listen to her because she had her chest enhanced. there is an entire website dedicated to that. >> stephanie: yes, i see. your friend dana losh.

she tweeted this. [ screaming ] >> stephanie: she tweeted more abortions for female sex than male which can drive girl power theme of the mean girls even nor laughable. >> was that english? that was within inches of english. >> it's pig latin. >> and of course peggy noonan called her a young lady. wendy is 50. >> oh really? >> peggy is over 60 but her soul is well over 500. >> stephanie: i love that dana losh referred to her as anything but a mean girl. she tweeted women will not be bullied, just murdered inutero. >> is that a small town in missouri? >> stephanie: and she said also hashtag wendy do you support using everybody else's money for your birth control abortions. >> okay, whatever. >> stephanie: it's the elevated tone of the dialogue that keeps

me coming back to this issue. >> yes exactly. charlie pierce by the way speaking of happy marriage equality we didn't get to talk to you last week. >> we're very bored with it in the commonwealth in massachusetts because we've had it with everybody. >> stephanie: you're like, whatever, what's new. >> my friend mary is getting a lot of run on tv. she's the one who won the decision up here, she's terrific. she's getting a bunch of tv time, and that's really cool. >> stephanie: it obviously was-- >> are hey gay marrying all over the sidewalks in l.a. >> stephanie: everywhere. you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a gay couple. >> don't even talk about the dead gay cats. >> right. that would be like the news. >> stephanie: how do you think this is going to play out in the states. this is what you and most people are pre- predicted was going to happen. >> it's just i mean, all the

indications are that anti-gay marriage party are going to die out on this, and in 50 years people are going to wonder what all the fuss was about. that's what happened here. >> stephanie: bill kent, republican appointee, he said it's a sad day in america because this does dynamite the foundations of our judeo judeo-christian system. it will be a culture war and people are doing it wrong. >> if you start one mr. dent, yes, there will be. >> stephanie: otherwise it feels like the flailing of a losing side. >> unfortunately the flailing side is entrenchinged in half the country unfortunately. the republicans stopped making sense a long time. if they made sense they would leave this issue alone. they would go, the republican

congressional campaign committee would go the ambitious state legislators, look, if you have ambitious beyond the state house, don't pick this up. >> stephanie: i have to think that jim demint you know, just shut up, we're done. >> i don't mine jim demint being on there but ralph reed is a crook in addition to being a bigot. ralph reed was the cabana boy. what the hell is nbc doing to rehabilitating that piece of slime. there are dozens of people who are perfectly willing to be bigots in public who didn't steal money from people. we have to have standards somewhere with our bigots. we want honest bigots, dammit. >> stephanie: we've been talking about the paula dean all morning. what is your take on that? >> i the microscope has not been

built to measures the tiny damn i give about this. i could care less. >> stephanie: you're bringing up things we did not know. the house of representatives have slashed the epa budget by 20%. the agency was created in 1970, and the budget was cut by 16%. what is less moan more than 100 house members many tea party members signed a little-known pledge about this brought by the koch brothers promising not to fight climb change without an equal amount of tax cuts. >> this is the jane mayor tipped me to this investigative journalism, it's amaze approximating not only that, there is another pledge. >> you said for the love of god another pledge? what is with these people. since when? are they signing a pledge to a

person or people. >> signing a pledge to a policy which is going to burn the country and the planet! >> stephanie: right, right, look at the wildfires. look at people with just refuse to admit this is part of climate change right? >> or at the very least climate change contribute toss it. if you don't accept the phenomenon then you don't accept the effects of the film none nonephenomphenomenon. then you applied to the government for help. i used ton a fire ranger. >> stephanie: what? >> i have photos and stuff. >> we need those photos. >> oh, no. >> yes we do. >> stephanie: mrs. pierce. >> but in any event i was only in one forest fire, and it was a small one and it was the most terrifying experience in my life. you don't know where they are. they burn underground. they burn in the root structure and the in the top soil, and

then they erupt in different places. i can't imagine for these guys out there. these guys are like the green berets of forest fires. >> right, the unpredictable nature, which way it's going to blow next. it's just really heartbreaking. charlie, you recall talking you were talking about john kasic in ohio, it would stripped funds from planned parenthood bar abortion providers from hospitals and the budget reprioritizes how federal dollars are distributed among the state's family planning centers and puts planned parenthood at the end of the list. this is frightening what is happening state by state. >> this is done by the state budget. this is the sneakiest way to do it. at least they're stealing women's rights in texas fairly

in the daylight. you can't repeal this at the polls. you can't, like, bring the incredible proposal that gags any rape center, which is part of this thing and you can't do anything about it or you would have to recall the entire budget. you can't do that. >> stephanie: to sum it up, you say this will not stop until it's impossible for a woman to exercise her right to choose anywhere. there is no middle ground. there never has been. >> they're after birth control as much as they're after abortion. >> stephanie: which makes no sense. >> no, because all the dirty who have sex that god does not approve of should have babies, so let it be written so let it be done. >> stephanie: in such a romantic

way. >> where is jim, by the way. >> his ass is sick. >> he could talk, he could be lying in bed doing imitations. i'm sure he could to charlie rangel lying down. >> stephanie: we speed you a speedy recovery. >> i'm sure you do. i'm going to get off the phone. >> stephanie: bye now. for comedic purposes we've become obsesses with the french farting bulldog. >> it's adoreable. adorable. [ farting sounds ] >> stephanie: what did you do, oh no, you're scared. 44 minutes after the hour. wewe will be right back on "the stephanie miller show." [ ♪ music ♪ ]

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[ ♪ music ♪ ] >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 49 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-121-800-steph-12 the phone number toll-free from anywhere. kerry from houston you're on "the stephanie miller show." hey, kerry. >> caller: hello. i'm calling about that call who are called awhile back talking about the 2 million who died on the slave ships and all the blood was on the south. i want to say before i go into this, it was wrong of paula dean to use the n-word, and the stuff that is happening to her is

probably very deserved but the slave ships weren't run by the south. it was the northerners the new england sailers. the only reason why there were black slaves to be bought was because they sold as many as could be bought in the caribbean caribbean, and they were brought here. the north had their hands in it just as deep as the south did. all of america there is a blame for what happened to the africans who were brought over here to be slaves. >> stephanie: well right i concur i think the callers point was the confederate flag, and how different that was from the nazi flag. >> caller: but then he dragged in the whole slave ship thing which again the north, and you go back to when they were desegregated in schools. the coverage was all on what happened to the southern

schools. it was just as bad in several of the northern schools. they had race riots unnorth just like down south. there is racism in the north. >> stephanie: absolutely. i grew up with some of it. that's what we were talking about. i do not think it is resided only specifically in the south. by the way. >> what? >> stephanie: we said kerry washington on the show a lot so great in scandal, did i not know this. t-bone brought my attention to this. the paula dean hired the character--kerry washington's character is based on this-- >> originally, yes kerry washington's character has gone on to sleep with the president and a whole lot of other stuff. that part was not-- >> stephanie: paula dean said that judy smith served as scandal and that seems clunky

to me, paula dean hired a black woman. >> she is the best cleaner in the business. the clinton's hired her and they had a lot to clean. >> stephanie: yes, we're going to talk to dean obeidallah about this at the top of the hour. that was probably not a good move and to go on television and claim that she only used the n-word once in her life. dean also mentions, and i think we mentioned this earlier that former president jimmy carter said that paula dean should be forgiven. maybe she was excessively honest in saying in the past she has used this word. i think she has been punished in her honesty in admitting it, she has apologized profusely and mentioned that they are programs

in georgia benefit almost exclusively black people and she has changed in her treatment of african-americans. >> and the lawsuit brought against her had nothing to do with the use of the n-word but how she treated her employees. >> stephanie: good morning welcome to "the stephanie miller show"." >> caller: thank you, give me a chance to say this, i'm african-american. i'm not so offended by paula dean. i don't think she used the word towith the intent to hurt. she's doing what almost every ethnic group has done. and to say casually describing by saying, oh that n-person. you know, it's casually used in a casual manner. i'm not okaying it.

>> stephanie: it's in a casual manner? >> caller: i hear african-american people use it, and describing it colored-- >> stephanie: you mean cracker or a different c-word. >> caller: cracker. >> stephanie: i've been called both. >> caller: but to use it in a casual manner and it's just as offensive to white people if its used in a hateful manner. >> stephanie: i think it is different when used by black people to each other than by a white person. >> caller: i hate when it's used in a hateful manner by black people too. i don't get the same hate that-- >> stephanie: i don't know what you mean by the difference between casual and a casual way. if you're you are wearing a tux. >> caller: when people use it

every day paula dean is in the south, she probably live among people who are her age who use used it in her day growing up in a casual way. and there are people who use it to be hateful. i'm not okay. but at least she's apologizing. you would never hear sean hannity apologizing. >> stephanie: all i'm saying there are a fair amount of black people who don't care what manner people use it in. it's still a deeply word. >> caller: i think she should apologize. >> and she has. >> caller: yes, but i don't think--at least she's making an attempt to change the situation and apologize for it. but have people like mitch mcconnell, and the people in congress and the republican party like darrell issa.

they're not apologizing for the hateful things that they say. i can feel the heat of the n-word from the things they have done. >> stephanie: yeah, there have been some veiled and not so veiled racism towards the president. we will gather to tennessee. >> caller: good morning, sexy liberal. >> stephanie: hello. >> caller: my comment on racism. there is a form of racism that is not even talked about that is the rich versus the poor, the havehavehaves versus the have-nots. to me it's a racism thing taking on the poor people, white black, red yellow, you got it, and we're all discussing the n-word and rightfully so. i was born in tennessee. moved to chicago and i was called the n-lover when i was 11

years old when i had a friend. i don't see color but i see the discrimination with women's rights, the poor thing with all the people in the country with legislation being passed, and to me that's a bigger problem than using the n-word. >> stephanie: i've also been called the n-lover as well, to which i say thank you. >> and you've also been called the c-word. >> stephanie: more than most. rick welcome to "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: good morning. when you use the word bigot when it comes to the anti-gay issue do you really believe that christians are bigots because they don't agree with same-gender marriage. >> stephanie: i've called anyone who believesanyone--i haven't called anyone who believes that a bigot. >> caller: the guest you had was

using that word bigot in that same connotation. if you don't believe in gay marriage. >> you think the word bigot has the same weight as the n-word? really? >> caller: i just said that's how i feel. >> wow. >> caller: you have the freedom to practice any religion you want. do you think i'm a bigot because i believe all americans including gay people should have the same rights? it's not a religious thing. >> caller: no, i don't. >> stephanie: all right. 58 minutes after the hour. dean obeidallah next on "the stephanie miller show."

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we'll miss you. we're all sad panda. >> a little gaggle of pandas? a tribe. >> we're sad. >> stephanie: i'll send vickie a sad emoticon. that's what i send her. >> one of 18. >> stephanie: jacki schechner. >> good morning some non-union federal workers are going on strike in d.c. today. they're going to call attention to what they call wage theft. represents the interests of some 2 million low-wageworkers saying eight franchises in two federal buildings are paying below minimum wage and ignoring rules for over-time pay. the business' licenses with the contractor that licenses with the government, say it takes steps to ensure contractors comply with the law and takes allegations seriously. president obama on his way

back from africa today as he wrapped up his last stop in tanzania before taking off he watched a ball demonstration you see him leaving here. but soccer ball with a generator inside and it generates enough power for lights and cellphones. it was invented by two harvard grabs, and the administration is distributing them across the continent to help access electricity. and then he laid a wreath at the embassy in kenya. president bush is in kenya for a different reason he and his wife are there to open a women's clinic. president obama praised president bush's work in africa fighting the spread of a.i.d.s. we're back after the break.

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to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

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these things ridiculous. we should be on. >> stephanie: you wrote a great piece we've been talking about all morning can we forgive paula dean. and you had an interesting take on it. you are arab, and you've been called sand n-word more than once. >> in e-mails and on twitter, in a hateful way not a playful way. >> stephanie: and i love the part that you're told to go back to where you're from, and you note that it's new jersey. >> for some people it's a different country, and it is what it is, and ignorance and bigotry always hand in hand. >> stephanie: you say that once a racist, always a racist, should we applaud their metamorphous and you say it's not the best answer for our nation why?

>> because i think our history has shown that people can evolve for the better, and main mainstream opinion on issues, in fact, does evolve for the better. in the article i cite a couple of examples. one being on marriage equality. ten years ago only 30% of americans supported it, and fast forward ten years later it's 50%. and the movement dismissed everyone who was against it, and saying anyone with unkind remarks against gay people are said to be bigots. >> stephanie: i get your point but i think there is a difference between virulently using slurs look, i'm a gay person, i never thought thought gay marriage would be possible ten years ago. i don't know if it's the same analogy. >> well, my point is really a

broader point about not paula dean per se. if people want to forgive her or not, that's their choice. let's see if she's evolved it will take more than a few tears on the morning show and disjointed tears in her apologize and a youtube video. no one else has come forward with all this press going on to say she is still a bigot she's saying all this racist stuff recently beyond a lawsuit from someone who is trying to get money. perhaps she has evolved perhaps she has not. i don't know the answer. i just know what i see in the media reports everybody else sees as well. some say we should not destroy her but redeem her. i believe that over all in people. and forgiveness for the good of forgiveness. if someone were to call me a

sand n-word, and then a year later they said, look, i'm sorry, i was wrong. i wouldn't say well, you called me a bigot word, you're gone forever. we should encourage people to to evolve for the better. if they're sincere and show it in more than a handful of words. not, okay, you you got caught. >> stephanie: you raise a good point that they're evolving for the better, and this makes us a better nation. one thing that i thought was interesting in light of all the supreme court decisions we have seen the evolvement of interracial marriage when when the courts struck down interracial marriage and the percentage of people who supported such laws, i wasn't aware of that number.

>> supreme court may have known that america is not ready for marriage equality. but now we have a majority who approve it. then, 73% of americans that was not the red state-blue state. that was main street americans mainstream americans who thought that it was just wrong. it took 30 years later for finally the majority of americans say yes i'm fine with black and white people getting married. that was a long time evolving for us. >> stephanie: i had a friend, a good friend of mine who was a black woman married to a white woman, this was just a few years ago. she would be in the supermarket with her kids and people would say, what are. >> a black whom married to a white man you said white woman. >> they would be way ahead. >> stephanie: sheshe of course would be offended and say

they're children. >> still to this day when there is a tv series where you have an interracial couple, i remember just a few years ago it was like, look how progressive they are when it shouldn't be that big of a deal, but it still is. most people, i think most couples we see are the same race whatever they might be, black and black, white and white latino and latino. i think the black and white is the starkist contrast. i come from a by biracial couple, my father is arab. but there isn't the contrast. he's slightly darker than my mother who is italian-american. so i grew up with a multi racial household, but no one ever asked us because we looked white. my dad looked like of white.

he was not white, he is an arab man, he's not white. >> stephanie: it's interesting regarding paula dean, carter, who agrees with you noted dean's programs in savannah georgia benefit mostly black people. >> it has surprised me that no one has come forward that she's been horrible, and no one in the african-american community has come forward to say she has been great. she hasn't done that much. jimmy carter said that, but that's a nice statement. people have let her hang out there. there are not people coming forward saying she's still a racist or others saying she's a really good person. i've never seen a reaction by corporations. i mean, her food has killed more people than al-qaeda.

she's the food jihad. that should be the issue before all of this. have you ever seen someone lose this many--i keep wondering is there more we don't know about than people are coming forward coming forward privately saying we're going to go public and then told target, sears, walmart, hey there are a lot more people out there and you just don't know it yet we're out of here. >> stephanie: you write dean's assertion that she only used the word once in her life, and in her deposition it says she has used it more in the past. >> yeah, you're going to use that despicable hateful word about black people, it's--it could be one time ever in anger but i don't think so. and in her deposition, if you read in the pleadings that i saw online she said, of course i

used it, for example when? she didn't say this was the only time in my life. then to go on the "today" show. i think part of this is a horrible pr campaign. if she would have addressed it straightforward and was really contrite, i said it years ago her sons came on tv and said, we grew up in a household that didn't use this word. i believe them. she could have headed this off but the way she handled it saying i is what i is, what does that mean, you're not going to change? what does that statement mean. >> stephanie: and she kept releasing the videos, oh, god this is getting weird now. one more overwrought video. you don't know if she's crying for herself or with actual i guess, atonement right? >> it's true. but have people raised the alec baldwin to me? the difference, first of all what he said was wrong, he was

angry, defending his wife, he was wrong. but i saw one leader from the lgbt community come out and say it was wrong. he's been great with us. they're not saying we're giving him a pass, but it was an anger thing. >> he shouldn't have brought the guy's sexuality into it. >> it's completely irrelevant, it's ridiculous. >> stephanie: you're right there is a whole life history of stuff, and as you say the deposition points to more stuff. it's more of the treatment even of the brother of employees. >> it seemed like the allegation--people keep telling me, i used to be a lawyer. people say did you see a complaint. that's an complaint. you can allege anything, frankly. until you go to a courtroom. certain lawyers are not going to--they'll have to sign a pleading, and they could be sanctioned if it's completely frivolous. but if you believe your client,

and you can put it in the complaints and that's in good faith, and it's fine. lawsuits are dismissed every day, and juries find against plaintiffs every day. i used to be a defense attorney so i'm slightly biased. >> and reputations can be ruined because of that. >> stephanie: why didn't she settle? she didwas she not aware of this all becoming public? >> i read that the plaintiff demanded--i'm not sure if this is true--but i read over million dollars settlement. she must have viewed it as blackmail or whatever word she used instead of blackmail. >> stephanie: tried to avoid the use of "black." >> i don't know what word, but they did not settle. she said on the "today" show, the first comment was, this evil woman wanted to take what i had. she was jealous. that's probably how they viewed

it. if you don't feel that you've done anything wrong you don't want to pay the settlement. if the lawyer said this is going to cost you $15,000 just to litigate half of this, we'll settle for $20,000. but the woman wanted $1 million. that's likely why it didn't settle. because it's in the best interest of a public figure like this to get rid of a case like this as a small fee. >> stephanie: do you give her points for being honest? someone made that point if there were only two people there, it would have been perjury, but how would she have proved it if she denied it. >> she knows she used the n-word in front of other people. if she would have said i never said it ever she knows someone would have come forward and it would have been perjury. this was not a criminal case. this was a civil lawsuit for racial discrimination. her lawyer could have objected and made it more specific.

look you're alleging for five years that the plaintiff lisa alexander, in the five years that she worked there. in the five years have you used the n-word, any racial stuff. in the discovery the relevancy standard is much broader. if i was a lawyer i would have said, don't answer that, you can answer within the five years and she would have focused on the issue. have you said it in the five years you've been working there. >> stephanie: as a lawyer you could break into a cold sweat, for paula dean we'll bring in mark fuhrman. [ yelling no, no ] >> stephanie: dean, see you on tv. great stuff. dean obeidallah. >> dean of comedy is the his website. >> stephanie: 19 minutes after the hour right back on the stephanie miller. >> for a good time call now 1-800-steph-12. [ ♪ music ♪ ]

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crazy. >> stephanie: what's up. >> caller: i ant to want to talk about the gay marriage thing. >> stephanie: mm-hmm. >> caller: i'm against it. [ dogs barker ] >> stephanie: you've released the hounds you're so against it. >> why are you against it. >> caller: why? because i'm a christian. >> many christians are for it. >> caller: all they got to do is read romans 1. that explains it right there. >> there are a lot of bible verses that say all kinds of stuff that we should kill people who eat shrimp orchids or kids who swear from their parents. >> caller: i'm from alabama, i'm from the deep south. i'm 50 years old, you can tell from my accent that i'm not a yankee. >> stephanie: what does that have to do with your views on guy marriage. [ dogs marriage ]

>> stephanie: how many dogs do you have? let's talk about something that we can bond about. >> caller: i have two. somebody is knocking at the door, but they'll come back. >> stephanie: what kind of dogs? >> caller: iii have a bassett hound and terrier. any time anybody moves they go to barking. they're good guard dogs. >> stephanie: okay, they keep the gays away. okay you know what, i'm sleepy. i believe ♪ i believe children ♪ are our future ♪ >> stephanie: robbie is lost to us. staff, bryant and i are the parents of brennan brennan the dump truck boy. >> can you say dump truck. >> bleep truck. >> that kid must be 30 now.

>> stephanie: that's what they're writing to say. last wednesday june 26th was brennan's 15th birthday. we are old. before i left to work i woke brennan to share the supreme court decision. brennan said that's what i wanted for my birthday. thank you for being a great influence on brennan brian and nancy. you're welcome. they're also just as immature as i am. they made brennan say a bad thing about george bush: [ farting sounds ] >> stephanie: there was something said good about george bush. >> obama: when we were at an h.i.v. a.i.d.s. clinic that has saved lives because of the u.s. program that president bush started. i think this is one of his crowning achievements because of the commitment of the bush

administration and the american people millions of people's lives have been saved. >> stephanie: and what's the other good thing i would say about george bush. very good for the effigy business. what are all those families doing now? >> capitalism. >> stephanie: right, exactly. by the way i had mentioned this piece earlier. just an important nsa edward snowden thing. privacy has evolved and obama's actions have extended those rights. he writes there is a crucial difference between the bush data phone call mining, and the surveillance program which was clearly unconstitutional unlike the obama program the bush

program the difference was critical. his program does not violate the right of privacy. we can and still have the discussion of how it overreaches and fixes that, just interesting. i'm sure he didn't bring it up with bush. >> it would have been indelicate. >> stephanie: 29 minutes after the hour. right back on the stephanie miller. show. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what

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if you have two army buddy coming overmeet,and one says, come over here s.o.b. and give me a group. it's camaraderie between people within the same group. to use it exclusively. it's been done forever when buddies hang out hey, you clown. >> stephanie: yes, it makes me insane when i have to talk to yet another white person who say they call each other that, it's okay. no, it's not. >> caller: that's a simple explanation. but a lot of times we black people can't explain--we're so incensed we don't articulate its use amongst ourselves properly, and it's confusion.

it's used all the time when girlfriends hang out they call each other the b-word, nothing that they could get away with calling someone else outside of the peer group. >> stephanie: my girlfriends and i call each other whores. >> what if it's a white person singing along with a hip hot song. >> caller: oh, you will get crushed. >> you think so? >> caller: exactly. paula dean need not apply. if you're not a member of the group, you can't get a pass on the usage. if he didn't go to battle with joe johnson he can't go to the bar and call joe johnson an s.o.b. >> stephanie: it's like my friend every mention i leave her i call her bleep whore!

she knows who it is, and she calls me right back. >> caller: hello, everyone is driving me friggin' crazy focusing on paula dean using the n-word. i could care less if 30 years ago she dropped this n-word. but what drives me crazy is the whole plantation wedding crap. this is part of the it. when she discussed her desire to have a very southern-style wedding for her brother modeled after a restaurant why the whole entire wait staff was mid aged black men clad in white jackets and black bow ties. that's her mindset. to think that's some glorious part of our history that's where i have a problem. >> stephanie: right, and her saying well, the media would probably be all over me if i had

tap dancing little n-words. >> that's what the complainer accused her of. she didn't admit to that. it's an accusation against another. >> caller: i'm reading the deposition. she said--she referred to it as the entire wait staff middle aged black men. she said she didn't use the n-word where in the complaint it says what i would really like is a bunchel little-- >> right, it's one's word against another's word. >> caller: right, but the fact that she admitted saying that she thought it would be dandy to have a plantation-style wedding with middle aged black men clad in white jacket--does she thinks this is some romantic notion of the south. >> stephanie: you don't even have to get to the words. i get your point. it's already bad enough. let's go to la tonya in mississippi. you're on on "the stephanie miller

show"." >> caller: hey, my point is similar to hers. it's not just about her using the n-word. i'm reading an article here where the black staff members had to use a separate entrance to enter and leave the restaurant. >> stephanie: we stumbled into the middle of the help. >> caller: exactly. it's not even about the n-word. it's about how she completed her black employees from our she treated her other employees. and the person who brought the suit was not a black person. she was a manager who was upset with the way her employees were being treated. >> stephanie: and the despite the help her sponsor made her eat. [ bleep ] pie. that will help. >> yes. >> stephanie: good morning rick. >> caller: hi, how are you doing. i was noting that a lot of people don't remember that the

democrat party has been around since the beginning and the democrat party, of course, was the one who had the slavery going. >> stephanie: those democrats it's not the democratic party. >> caller: they wanted to keep the tax going because it brought in revenue and the republican party freed the slaves and gave them at 13th, 14th, and 15th amendment. >> stephanie: that's so weird, why do you think. >> caller: equal justice. >> stephanie: why do you think black people vote for democrats by 90%. >> caller: and segregated. >> stephanie: all right, he's not listen approximating. oops, look what happened. [ dial tone ] >> things flipped. >> stephanie: i think he must be getting to the point that black people must be really dumb. >> and once they did the southern strategy, that's when things-- >> stephanie: right, right. billy in texas. hi billy. >> caller: it was completely gutless for you to hang up on

that guy. he was saying things you can't dispute, and you hang up on him. >> stephanie: why did 90% of african-americans vote for the democratic party, do you think? >> caller: well, equally-- >> stephanie: okay they're dumb.. [ dial tone ] look, there is something with the wrong today. >> that was horrifying. >> stephanie: i'm doubly a coward apparently. patricia. >> caller: hi, i love us guys. i wanted to follow up with a caller from a while ago about the n-word, and using it casually and using it insidious there is a difference. i was brought up to hate that word whether it's spoken by a black person, white person, the problem is rappers trivialize the meaning of the word.

then it's acceptable, then we have all these exceptions to the rule. if you're black then, if you're this, it's a bad word, period. i don't think anyone should use the word. we're the only race who takes a derogatory term against our own race, and some how try to make money off of it, make it cool. asians don't do it. the jewish people don't do it. i don't think it's okay. if we can accept the fact that it's not okay. black people don't say it, white people don't say it, we don't agree. then there want be any exceptions that if you're black then it's okay. >> i can personally attest that asians do make fun of each other's driving. >> caller: there are a lot of things as black folks that we joke about, but when it comes to racial words i don't hear asians say what's up, c-word. >> stephanie: i have jewish friends who joke and call me a

schicska and it's not the same as the n-word. >> caller: my biggest issue is how it's used in rap music. and what if white kids sing along to the song. is that okay? well the guy making it is not selling it to black listeners. if you don't want the word to be used then don't use it. there should be no exception. my kids are not allowed to say it. that's just my personal "viewpoint." i think we can all agree that it's a bad word, we won't have this discussion. >> stephanie: patricia, i would hope that teachers would not allow white or black kids use it. all right, honey, thank you. appreciate it. by the way we've not touched on gun stuff in a bit. it's just another day kentucky four-year-old fatally shoots six-year-old sister in the face.

siblings were in their grandfather's home. the grandfather was cleaning out the handgun. he thought it was unloaded. he stepped away for a moment. the grandfather believes the four-year-old picked up the pistol, shot his sister in the mouth, and causing a bullet to lodge in the spine. no school with teachers with guns. every time we get in the debate, the answer is more guns in every situation. insurance companies are not interested in covering the liability resulting from the new law. it would cost most school districts their insurance. it's stuff like that on a lot of these issues that people just--this ises is "responsible gun owners" discussing this debate. we'll come back for the remaining moments of the stephanie miller. >> the revolution will not be televised. it's on the radio. it's "the stephanie miller show."

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you. [ ♪ music ♪ ] [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> announcer: stephanie miller. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> stephanie: wahoo, it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 49 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the number toll-free from anywhere. this is how i know i'm bad at pronunciation. everyone was talking about jennifer lopez performing at the party of a terrible dictate. i could not pronounce his name.

>> that's not how you pronounce it. >> stephanie: can anybody pronounce it? really? really? really? >> thank you. >> stephanie: most repressive country, and she was performing at-- >> you could not say happy birthday to david cameron. >> stephanie: easier to say. not a human rights abuser. >> just saying. >> stephanie: thanks jenny from the block. let's go to jessica hello, jess. >> caller: i'm on my off day and i'm watching. i love current. it's great. it's awesome. i have to echo patricia, as after african-american woman i do not use the word. and they're confusing their white friends with who can say it or not. oh well, we make exceptions.

no, we don't. yes you did. you made exceptions when it was said last year talking about ninjas in paris. >> stephanie: i see what you did there. i heard a black caller yesterday on a radio show saying it's okay when it's kids at the mall. the mall is okay? >> caller: i have to call out i called out, i basically rolled up on them and said, you know, that's not a term of endearment. it's a slur. i don't care what your friends have said. i don't care what li'l wayne is telling you whoever, i don't care how you spell it, use it, you can er it, ah, i don't care, it's the slur. you don't use folks using the k-word. you don't use words that demean each other. there is a whole page on racial

slurs. look it up read it. >> stephanie: there we go. admits to an one-nightstand sexting. and she pays a lot of details if you ever watched her make a wreath. she does not recall ever having a lesbian experience. because that would be i canny. i ikcy. julianne moore in her remake of "carrie." do you remember that scene are where her hand comes up out of the grave!

[ screaming ] >> she said that her character was just as scary of the earlier version. >> that was terrifying into i doing. >> stephanie: i do confuse her with sybil's mom. >> and sissy spaceks they're breasts, mama, they're breasts. every woman has them i love that movie. >> stephanie: that's found that you knew that line and did you it that well. i can only think of, plug it up, plug it up, the shower seen with the tampons. >> with edie mcclure. everybody loved it. everyone shouted it. >> i did not watch it in the

70s. i was too young. >> stephanie: shut pup let's go to neil in louisiana. you're on "the stephanie miller show"." hi, neil. >> caller: thank you so much. i one thing i want to address, a lot of southern callers have not been helping very much. you mentioned the southern strategy i'm so glad you did that chris. the republican party used to be the liberal party. paula dean is does not represent. >> stephanie: in the words of the immortal janet jackson, what have you done for me lately, right? >> caller: i know plenty of ladies that are the same age as paula, but didn't grow up with a silver spoon in their mouth didn't grow up having people take care of the house for them. you know, i've always grown up with people you just all live together, and it was never an issue. she grew up in a bubble. she is disgusting.

her food is disgusting. it dent represent doesn't represent the south. i'm glad she's out. every time i see her on tv, i think, great this is who is representing my geographical location? we have so many beautiful people here. so many different ethnicities and backgrounds, i'm glad to see she's out of the picture. the other thing with the n-word, it's not a word i've ever used. i've heard it used, but i like an it--i go back to a rap group called a tribe called quest. they spoke about this. there is a context for it that i'm never going to be a part of, but i've heard of people taking words and actually some of my friends who are gay have done the same thing they've taken words and owned them.

>> stephanie: to take the word and take the pain out of it. it's a different standard when you're not of that group. someone said it earlier. don in rockford, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi don. >> caller: how are you doing? >> stephanie: good. >> caller: i have a couple of right wing republicans here at work. they were talking about the paula dean thing the first thing is they say, it's only a word. i'm thinking. >> stephanie: oh boy. >> caller: and which women would not be offended by the b-word, the c-word or the s-word. >> it's only a word. >> it's only a word, steph. >> stephanie: only because i'm so bad to work with that you still have a job. rick in michigan. you're on "the stephanie miller show." welcome. >> caller: hi,.hi rick. >> caller: to hear the n-word was defined as ignorant person.

i guess-- >> by whom? >> caller: when they were called as an n-word they were used as someone who was ignorant. then it was derived into persons of slavery who they considered ignorant. they were called the n-word. republicans in 1964, when lbj signed it. >> stephanie: yes, that was a long time ago. thanks for that history this morning. yes, i understand a billion years ago the republican party was not racist, however okay. fred in chicago, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi fred. >> caller: when we talk about the conservatives talk about republican and democrat, they didn't understand the problem in the south was not the democrat.

when the democrats supported the crazy inside, the south was all democratic. now that the republicans support the crazy inside they're republicans. if lincoln were alive today he would be a democrat. >> stephanie: i guess we'll take no further questions. i love that. what do you call it, oh the democrats, yes, i got it. >> but things changed once the republicans instituted the southern changed. >> stephanie: yes, that's it. i would like to thank everyone. we'll see you tomorrow on "the stephanie miller show."

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