these dresses that you wear, do you have anything that goes above the knee? i mean, who are you freaking charlotte rae? [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: good morning everybody. are you ready for the fireworks? they start right here this wednesday, july 3 on the "full court press." coming to you live on current tv. in every nook and cranny of this great land of ours. coast-to-coast, we're there for you. with all the latest, the news such as it is this day before the 4th of july. we've got it covered. we'll tell you what's going on here in the united states, here

in washington, d.c. and around the globe. take your calls at 1-866-55-press. what it all means to you what you think about it all. take your comments, look forward to hearing from you on twitter at bpshow and as always, from all of our friends on facebook. facebook.com/billpressshow. president obama, the first time -- back in the white house. after their trip to africa. just in time for the 4th of july. before leaving africa, the president got a big going away present from president bush, former president george w. bush in africa at the same time in tanzania who told reporters he supported the nsa program spying program. he's the one who started it and president obama just continued what he was doing. yeah, that's what we're afraid of. meanwhile, france and italy and portugal all refused to let the president of bolivia's plane fly over the airspace because they

were afraid edward snowden was on board. oh, boy. more about that on current tv. we have a big, big hour and the iq will go way up. (vo) current tv gets the conversation started weekdays at 9 eastern. >> i'm a slutty bob hope. the troops love me. tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. (vo) sharp tongue. >>excuse me? (vo) quick wit. >> and yes, president obama does smell like cookies and freedom. (vo) and above all, opinion and attitude. >> really?! this is the kind of stuff they say about something they just pulled freshly from their [bleep]. >> you know what those people are like. >> what could possibly go wrong in eight years of george bush? >> my producer just coughed up a hairball. >>sorry. >>just be grateful current tv doesn't come in "smell-o-vision" >> oh come on!

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>> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar.

>> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv. >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio and on current tv, this is the "bill press show." >> bill: president obama back from his trip to africa and george w. bush says he's doing a good job with nsa just like i did. i'm tellin' ya, good morning everybody. what do you say? great to see you. it is wednesday. wednesday, july 3rd. good to see you today. welcome, welcome to the "full court press." here we go into the july 4th

weekend. first, not without a good three hours together to look at what's happening and talk about it all. you know how to do that. join the conversation by giving us a call at 1-866-55-press. join us on twitter. get out the iphones and smart phones and give us your comments on twitter at bpshow and of course on facebook, facebook.com/billpressshow for all of our growing number of friends on facebook. we've got a lot to get into today. and hope you've got good plans to have a lot of fun with your friends and family over the 4th. i'll be heading back up to rhode island and to the beach in rhode island. hope we have better weather this weekend. i would like to see the sun at least once. >> at the beach yeah. >> bill: at least once. >> that makes sense. >> bill: in the next four days. the team is here. peter ogborn and dan henning.

hello, guys. >> hey hey. >> good morning. >> bill: good to see you. >> happy july 3rd. >> bill: alichia cruz has the phones covered. cyprian bowlding, i'm sorry ladies. [ laughter ] sorry, ladies, he's not here today. he was here a little earlier. he's off now for a long break. >> you heard him. he showed up when he wasn't even working. early. >> bill: make sure everything is under control. monty does a good job filling in for cyprian. he will be taking us into the world of current tv. >> i don't know how the ladies feel about monty though. >> we'll find out. >> bill: they don't hold back. uh-huh. we're coming to you live on current tv of course on your local progressive talk radio station. and on sirius x.m. this hour only. so big night of baseball last night, huh? >> right. >> bill: bailey, never heard

of him before. everybody will be talking about him today. he pitched not only pitched a no-hitter last night. his second -- his second no-hitter and the last pitcher in major league baseball to pitch a no-hitter was homer bailey ten months ago. guys, on a roll. here's what it sounded like last night. >> on the ground to third for frasier. he did it! pow pow pow. homer bailey's second career no-hitter! >> holy moses. haven't heard that one in awhile. >> bill: i'm tellin' ya -- >> i love that he's a pitcher named homer. >> bill: homer bailey. homer says you know, no big deal >> for the cincinnati fans. of i like pitching against those guys. hanigan did an excellent job. second time we've done this.

we always seem to be able to be op the same page every day. >> bill: if he pitched a no-hitter, the reds must have won, right? >> they did. >> bill: figured that out. >> good deductive reasoning there. they beat the san francisco giants 3-0. >> bill: good for homer. may you pitch another one. coming up, governor eliot spitzer joining us as he does every wednesday morning. a little bit later in this hour. then we're going to bounce over to cairo and find out the latest in that unbelievable scene over there where the military has given the president an ultimatum to shape up or ship out. the president says he's not going anywhere. and evan mcmorris santoro from "buzzfeed" will be along a little bit later as a "friend of bill." all of that coming up. but first... >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> other headlines making newses on this wednesday if you ever dine at long john silvers there

is a chance you have eaten what the center for science and the public interest calls the worst restaurant meal in america. it's the big catch with onion rings, fried haddock with hush puppies and onion rings with 33 gramses of trans fat 19 grams of saturated fat 3700 milligrams of sodium and 1360 calories. the amount of trans fat is 16 times the recommended daily limit. >> bill: i know this sounds a little snotty here but i think anybody who walks in a long john silvers restaurant deserves it. >> i love seafood. i like it nice -- i like a nice, healthy meal. i go to long john silver's. >> bill: uh-huh. i'm not walking in that place. >> it is like eating the equivalent of three or four sticks of butter. >> bill: it looks bad from the

outside. >> it looks horrible. true story, i went into a long john silver once when i was on a road trip. i went in and i just got whatever, the fish and chips. i watched a gentleman walk up to the counter and say do you have any of the leftover fried pieces, they batter dip the fish and put it in the oil, whatever doesn't stick they're almost like doughnuts -- crunchy doughnut type batter. they handed him a basket filled with fried fish batter. he went to his table and he put vinegar all over it and he ate it with a fork. >> bill: no, really? >> honest to god. that's the thing. you can go and you can order the crispy batter. whatever is left over -- they just give it to you. >> america. >> that's awesome. >> bill: he didn't pay for it. >> he didn't pay for it. it don't cost nothing. >> bill: my kind of restaurant. [ laughter ]

>> that is awesome. a below the belt hit to the new york city mayoral race. the leading candidate loda is asking women to come forward and speak to him with horror stories about dating anthony weiner. he is currently leading the republican polling. he went on the andrea tan tarot show saying he wanted women to learn about what a real creep weiner is. >> bill: no republican candidate has a chance of winning that primary as frank rich told us yesterday. i mean winning the general election. he's just trying to get some headlines. here we are talking about him. a big change is coming to the putting green in the pga tour. come 2016, they will no longer allow the use of anchored putters where the top of the club rests on the player's body as he putts as an anchor point. they've been used in four of the

last seven major championship wins but they'll be illegal starting january 1 2016. they're seen as taking some of the skills required out of the putting stroke, making it less challenging. >> bill: i think that's a good move. >> i'm okay with that. >> bill: me, too. i think they are you know, a crutch. >> big time. >> bill: good enough. now, you know, we talk a lot about edward snowden about the nsa. but this story just keeps getting more and more bizarre. we've got to start there this morning. i would love to get your take on what happened. you probably heard about it. this is like an international kidnapping. i'm not talking about edward snowden now. i'm talking about the president of bolivia. the president of another country. you may have heard -- here's the deal. morales is on an official state visit, some big conference was being held with latin-american leaders in moscow.

he's there on his government plane and while he's at this conference, he was asked as well as other presidents were asked everybody is being asked here, head of the country would you consider giving edward snowden asylum? and he said yeah. we would. he hasn't committed a crime in bolivia. so then, he finds out before he leaves moscow, that lisbon -- portugal rather, has suddenly rescinded his flight plan, his permission rather to refuel in lisbon on the way home. so he has to come up with another plan. he gets permission from spain to refuel in the canary islands. the next day, he takes off. right? leaves moscow. and somehow the rumor gets started that because he said he might be logical to give edward snowden asylum. the rumor gets started that snowden is on his plane.

is stowed away on the plane, based on nothing, by the way. in fact, here's what's really funny is government planes, this is like andrews air force base here in washington. so if you're a president from another country, you don't land like at dulles or if you're president of the united states, you don't land at dulles or at national. you land at andrews air force base. same thing in moscow. they've got an official government airport where official government planes land. that's where the president is. snowden's not there. he's over at the commercial airport. great big international airport in moscow. so the president of bolivia is not even leaving from the same airport to pick up snowden -- because snowden can't leave his airport. the president of bolivia would have to have flown his plane from one airport in moscow to the other which is so absurd about the whole thing.

this rumor that started rumor that he might take him with him is why portugal rescinded their permission to refuel. so yesterday the plane is coming across europe. it gets minutes from france and suddenly france says oops, you don't have permission to cross our country. >> huh? do what? >> bill: so they have to do a 180 in the air. they're heading back and then italy says oops, they're probably over switzerland italy said uh-uh you can't cross our territory either. so here's the president of bolivia. you know bouncing around europe. this rumor that snowden is on their plane. he finally -- he's running out of fuel. he finally gets permission -- they get permission to land in vienna where the president has to spend the night. they're refueling in vienna and then somehow, i don't know

maybe over scandinavia iceland somehow. africa. i don't know. he'll get back to south america. but now why do you think france and portugal and italy all denied him permission -- denied permission for the plane to fly over the country? because they thought edward snowden might be on board. there is no way that happened without the united states asking them to do it. you know as well as i we did. because we're so obsessed with getting this leaker and getting this whistle-blower, edward snowden. there's no way. he didn't commit any crime in france or italy. he didn't commit any crime in portugal. there is no way the countries on their own would have diverted a plane carrying a president of another country. imagine this. president obama flew back yesterday, right from tanzania.

he crossed a lot of countries in africa. what if somebody had got in touch with the countries hey don't let obama cross your territory. make them go around. tell them no, you can't fly over our airspace. what are we doing? and you know, president obama when he was in africa, he told reporters, this edward snowden what did he call him? a 29-year-old hacker. i won't be scrambling jets to stop him. that was when people thought he might be flying over the united states airspace on his way to cuba. i'll tell you yesterday i just cannot believe what happened. the president of bollive ya has called it an outrage. it is an offense against the people of bolivia and the country of bolivia which it is. and you know, i keep coming back to my central point. you gotta stop focusing -- this country's gotta stop focusing on

edward snowden and start focusing on what he told us. start focusing on the massive collection of phone data in this country. start focusing on the massive invasion of our privacy and start focusing on what nsa is also doing in europe. that's what european countries ought to be upset about. not the president of bolivia but about nsa. "new york times" reporting this morning that in germany alone germany, alone nsa is collecting information on 500 million phone calls e-mails and text messages by german citizens 500 million every month. we're doing that in every country in the eu as well as here in the united states. then we're worried about edward snowden being on the president of bolivia's plane which he wasn't? so here we are we are

kidnapping, basically or denying another president of another country to fly freely around the world because we're so afraid of edward snowden. 1-866-55-press. this is insane! let's talk about it. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current tv. for true stories. with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. real, gripping, current. documentaries... on current tv.

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press show." >> bill: it is 25 minutes after the hour now. we're talking about this incredible -- this is right out of hollywood. the president of bolivia in his plane trying to get out of europe, can't get out of europe yesterday because france, portugal and italy won't let them nigh out of their airspace. i suspect the united states was behind the request of those countries to say hey we think edward snowden might be on the president's plane which he wasn't. no evidence that he was. aren't we so paranoid about this? by the way again, this is a violation of every principle of international law seems to me. certainly the respect that we ought to have for president of another country. what would we say if our president were treated the same way? i don't think we would like it, peter. >> we're on twitter at bpshow where fred wilder says the u.s.

is doing what they've always done since world war ii, being the world's bully. we have to show little countries what defiance means and margaret colvin says this is not only embarrassing about the president of bolivia but it's hostile. i never thought obama would turn out to be a third term of dick cheney. >> bill: again, i don't have any proof that our state department asked these countries to do it. but let me tell you france didn't do this on their own. italy didn't do it on its own. portugal. i mean jesus really? >> portugal wouldn't tell the president of bolivia that they couldn't fly over their space just because. >> bill: what do they care about who's on the plane? i mean, come on. wendy is down in parkland, florida. what's going on? >> caller: beautiful day down here in florida. >> bill: good for you. >> caller: i'm usually on board with you with everything, bill

but this time i have to disagree with you. >> bill: okay. that's all right once in awhile. >> caller: once in awhile. i think that these are our allies who are sending a message to the world that, you know, if you are going to give this man asylum, we are not on board with this. and i think that they had every right and i think that whether or not the president instigated this or not i think it was the right thing to do. >> bill: wendy, he was not on the plane. >> caller: but they didn't know that. >> bill: they just -- so just on a rumor they don't let the president of another country fly over their airspace? >> he was detained for nine hours. essentially detained for nine hours. the president. >> bill: in vienna. i mean we treat the president of another country that way? based on a rumor? wait a minute. a rumor that somebody -- who

leaked what the government is doing? is on the plane? >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but

somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

>> get social with bill press. like us at facebook.com/billpressshow. this is the "bill press show." >> bill: hey here we go. 33 minutes after the hour. on a wednesday morning july 3rd. we're talking about the fact that it looks to me like with a little nudge from the united states france and italy and portugal yesterday refused to allow the president of bolivia to fly over their airspace.

these countries refused to let the president fly over their airspace. he had to be rerouted through vienna and was detained in vienna nine hours. what the hell is going on. 1-866-55-press. meanwhile, president obama got a little surprise backing for what nsa is doing both here and in europe in terms of massive collection of all of this data. remember, before he left africa and tanzania, the day before yesterday, the president said hey, you know, our european allies shouldn't be upset that we're collecting all this data on everybody in every one of

those countries because this is just what we do. >> obama: every intelligence service, not just ours, but every european intelligence service, every asian intelligence service wherever there is an intelligence service, they're going to be trying to understand the world better and what's going on in world capitals around the world. from sources that aren't available through "the new york times" or nbc news. >> bill: i love that phrase. we're just trying to understand the world better. that's why we're -- >> we're good guys. >> bill: that's why we're spying on you. we want to understand the world better. what if george w. bush had said that? man, we would be jumping all over -- by the way i guess george w. bush did say that. yesterday, he was asked on cnn what he thinks about what the nsa is doing. and basically hey i started it. obama's keeping it going. this is a good thing.

>> when it comes to surveillance, there can be real time understanding. >> put the program in place to protect the country and one of the certainties is civil liberties will guarantee it. >> so you don't think there is a compromise between security and privacy. >> there needs to be a balance. >> bill: there is a balance. i put it in place and the president continued that. now we have president obama's for it. george bush is for it. dick cheney is for it. something wrong with this picture? >> yikes. >> bill: john boehner's for it. mitch mcconnell is for it. on the other hand so is nancy pelosi, dianne feinstein and harry reid. is anybody on our side? hello? >> by the way we're take your comments. please join in the conversation on twitter at bpshow. we'll take calls in a minute. tony barker on twitter says we're being stupid if you ask

me. next thing you know, we'll be shooting down planes of countries who even mention edward snowden. and paul kappa says this is what true speech really means. crush, dissent and bully the little guy who speaks against the world's only superpower. >> bill: i'm going to start a rumor, right? okay. i'm going to start a rumor that i'm going to providence, rhode island. i'm going to start a rumor that edward snowden is -- >> how big is your carry-on bag? >> bill: i'm going to tweet. when i get on the plane that i've got edward snowden in my carry-on bag. >> you get a free trip to vee vienna out of it. >> bill: there would be as much evidence for that as there was that he was on the plane of the president of bolivia yesterday. what are we doing? lisa in houston texas. hey, lisa. >> caller: hey, bill your right

wing beating up of this president is getting tiresome. you have absolutely no proof that barack obama order offed these countries to do what they're doing. >> bill: i never said i had proof. i said i do not have proof but i suspect they wouldn't do it on their own. >> caller: let me tell you something, bill, barack obama is the 44th president. he's not the second president. every one of the presidents have had a way of looking to see what is going on in other countries and in this country. let's not forget bill clinton did wiretapping on the group in waco before those people were murdered. don't act like barack obama is this monster. he wasn't a monster when your book was selling big about "the obama hate machine." >> bill: i'm a big president obama supporter lisa but i don't have to endorse everything he does, right? i mean i think in this case, the nsa is collecting too much data and they're invading our

privacy. but that's a whole issue we've been talking about. this interfering with the president of another country and his ability to get back to his country and asking other countries not to let them fly over their airspace? i mean come on, don't you think that's a little overboard? >> caller: you have no idea. this man said he would take -- he might take it back on the plane. >> bill: no, he didn't say that. he said he might give him asylum. >> caller: no he didn't. he laughed about it. this is people from south america that treat their own people bad. you need to learn about the countries before you start supporting them. >> bill: yeah, lisa, i think you've got to learn about some other countries too, before you start defending the way we're treating these people. he's the elected president of another country and it was an outrage, i think. i'm telling you lisa, thank you for the call. it will come out.

it will come out. i'm telling you it's going to come out that the united states asked france and i would be willing to bet next month's salary on it. ask france and italy and portugal. do you really think they did it on their own? do you think france has -- think! use your head! do you think france has a beef with edward snowden? no. they're beef is with nsa. do you think portugal's got a beef with edward snowden? no! they've got a problem with nsa. or italy. it's crazy. >> and that they all coordinated at the same time to sort of make sure that this president didn't land in their countries. >> bill: all i'm saying is look let's forget about edward snowden as far as i'm concerned. let's focus on what the nsa is doing. do we really want what senator ron wyden from oregon called and senator mark udall from colorado, they're the only two people now that i know of in the senate, who are raising any questions about this massive collection of data.

senator ron wyden called it, you know, what was the word he used? maybe gross invasion of american's privacy. this is what we ought to be look at. instead, we're ignoring what nsa is doing and playing this game about where edward snowden happens to be. as if he would stowaway on a president's plane. and just one final thing lisa, other people on twitter made this comment as well. i mean -- nobody supported barack obama more than i did. through the first four years and through this presidency. and i'm at that white house every day finding out what he's doing and giving him as much support as i can but that doesn't mean i'm a rubber stamp for everything he does. we cannot be as liberals and progressives if one of our own does something we don't agree with and we don't think is right for this country it is our duty to say it. i'm never going to be -- i

wasn't for bill clinton. i wasn't for -- you name it. any president. any president. certainly not for ronald reagan or george h.w. bush or george w. bush or jimmy carter. never 100% for everything they did. i'm not going to check my brain at the door when i walk into this show and say oh, if obama's for it, i'm for it. yeah man no, i don't think about it at all. if obama's for it, i'm for it. that's just ridiculous. gwen is calling from columbia, south carolina. >> caller: good morning, bill. good morning to you and your crew and listeners. i just wanted to comment about the nsa program. >> bill: yeah? >> caller: i'm a government employee. as government employees we go to serve the citizens. >> bill: yep. >> caller: and my thing is this. you know, i want nsa to catch all terrorists, foreign and domestic. my biggest concern on those who

are homegrown, flying under the radar, we should be able to go to work and not be concerned another timothy mcveigh oratory nichols bringing a building down on our heads. or not worry about a klebold. we provide services for the country that people take for granted every day. >> bill: listen, i'm a huge supporter of public employees gwen, i hope you know that. afscme is a big supporter of this program. i totally value your work as a government employee. and salute you for it. and like you i want us to catch every damn terrorist that's out there. homegrown or foreign grown. but i also want to protect our right of privacy. i want to fight for my right of privacy and you can't tell me that collecting data on every single phone call that you make,

gwen or that i make, gwen, whether it is to the dry-cleaner or the pharmacy or to grandma that that's helping catch a terrorist. if we believe that, we might as well kiss our right of freedom good-bye. our right of privacy good-bye. eliot spitzer is next here on the "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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beginning of the july 4 weekend. we've all got big plans. we wanted to check in before he heads out to the hamptons, we wanted to check in with eliot spitzer, get him while he's still in town, former governor of new york. former host of "viewpoint" here on current tv. hello, eliot. good morning. >> good morning, bill. you always say wonderful things about me before i join but don't accuse me of going to the hamptons. that's a little bit unusual. let's set the record straight. we go straight north to columbia county. we have a farm with 20 cows and i feed the cows. so i just want that on the record. >> bill: i'm glad to hear you've got some sense when it comes to values. i can't imagine anything worse than hanging out at the hamptons which looks to me just like -- i've never been out there. i'm sure it is beautiful. >> it is gorgeous. the hamptons are beautiful. spectacular but it is like being in manhattan.

same social stuff. where we go, it is real country. real farmland. >> bill: yeah. hamptons, all of the same parties and social pressures and all of that kind of stuff. >> i wouldn't be invited anyway so that's okay. >> bill: have a great weekend on the farm. hey, eliot i thought of you this morning when i saw this article in "the new york times" this morning, it is an issue we haven't talked about on the show but these payroll cards. eric schneiderman, who's got the job you used to have as attorney general of new york, is all out on these. these are companies that are giving the cards to employees. what's wrong with them? >> companies are saying instead of giving. >> check which you may then take to a check cashing site which will take out 8% from your paycheck, we'll give you one of the atm type cards which you can then take to a bank or some other institution. there will be fees attached to it. the question is are the fees so big that they're really bringing workers down below the minimum

wage laws of the state of new york and how do you deal with the fees that attach to the pay system? it is a bit more subtle than they're saying the boss has to pay you $7.20 we'll pay you $6.50, that would be a clear viles of the law. do the fees get attached to the use of the atm cards the companies give the workers. if they do bring it below the minimum wage, use it in violation. the real issue is workers aren't getting the money they need and they're being brought below the minimum wage. >> bill: companies are using these because they're cheaper than having somebody writing checks for them or something? is that it? >> look, the reason i want to say this -- the companies are also saying look, we're moving into an electronic age giving people a paper check. you worry about what we call the nonbank community. people who don't have bank accounts. family gives them a check. they have to go to a check

cashing service and the check cashing services are really the ones who take -- so the companies are saying better to give them an atm type card than a check. but there is still an issue of what attaches to it. >> bill: related but at the other end of the scale "new york times" reporting sunday on ceo salaries. which actually jumped up 16%. >> well, you know, i feel good for ceos. they've had a rough couple of years. i think their average pay came down to $8 or $9 million. time for some compensation. >> bill: 231 to 1 is the ratio between what the ceo makes and your average worker. >> bill, that's a number that i think we should focus on.

it used to be -- it was 41. even that was considered sort of stretching the bounds of what even morality or social contract or justice however you define it would permit. then it exploded over the last 15 to 20 years. i think at one point, it was 400 to 1. but now it is still 231 237 to 1. how that's happened, how we have seen a breakdown in corporate governance and in our social value system that permits that crazy disparity is really what i think we should be talking about. >> bill: what can we do about it? >> i think what we should do is put the ceos on a pay card like we put the low wageworkers. then what we could do is say the fees should be for them maybe an extra 10%. what we should really do about it is change the way corporate governance works. shareholders have been disempowered, cut out of big decision making process.

and this has created once again what we call the imperial ceo. arrogated to themselves, the power of ownership. somebody owns his own company her own company and they want to take all of the profits for themselves, that's fine. because they own it. these folks don't own the company. they're working for the shareholders. but they're still taking much more than they really should be paid if there were a proper governance system. >> bill: i wish we were paying attention to that issue. we talk about it. it seems like nothing happens. and you know, i don't think government ought to put a cap on how much people can earn. right? >> what this -- in a way the corporate analog to the failure of our political system where very few control too much the power. really the definition of the increasing disparity driven partly by technology, partly by globalization. workers being disempowered. shareholders being disempowered.

it has led to this gap in both power and wealth and it is something that is leading to the deterioration of our social fabric which is why i think we both have occupy wall street movement supported in terms of equity. but also on the other side, the tea party from the right of anger even though they're kind of crazy. in what they propose. they're sort of anger that wells up when you see the disparities. >> bill: absolutely. >> people can't quite explain it. often unjustified. >> bill: that's our assignment for this weekend. you think about this on the farm. i will think about it on the beach in rhode island and when we talk next week, we'll have it all figured out. >> indeed. have a wonderful 4th. let's hope the sun comes out finally. >> bill: yeah, please. thanks eliot. see ya. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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your local progressive talk radio station, good to have you with us or on current tv, also good to see you. and we've got a little news of the day to get into before we head off for the fireworks and the 4th of july and the hot dogs and the beach. you want to join the conversation, give us a call. last chance, last chance before the weekend gets here. 1-866-55-press. the toll free number. on twitter. you can reach us, our handle at bpshow and on facebook, all of our friends gathering on facebook at facebook facebook.com/billpressshow. the team, well, mostly in place this morning. peter ogborn and dan henning. >> hey hey hey. >> good morning. >> bill: alichia cruz here on the phones. cyprian bowlding has already flown the coop. he started his 4th of july break a little early but monty is here as always doing a good job keeping us looking good on

current tv. well, it was just two days ago that mitch mcconnell found out he had a challenger after all. ashley judd not running against him but the secretary of state of kentucky, allison grimes, has said she's going to do it. she's met with her supporters. we played her announcement for you yesterday. right away yesterday. no sooner had she announced and mitch mcconnell was up with a -- kind of a silly goofy little ad about -- >> goofy doesn't even begin to describe how silly it is. >> bill: what rhymes with imriems? >> i want to thank me, me, me. i want to thank allison grimes. ♪ >> bill: i don't get it.

>> it is stupid. >> bill: pardon me. it is stupid. it doesn't sound like mitch mcconnell. you know what i mean? >> that was my biggest thing. >> bill: it doesn't fit mitch mcconnell. i get a picture of him looking at it going what the hell is going on here? trying to convince him it makes sense. >> bill: i would have like to have been in the room when his political consultants said we have the new ad for you senator. you're going to like this one. mcconnell is like what the hell. give me another bourbon. we're going to kick off this hour by going right to cairo and finding out what's happening there. the latest in the showdown between morsi and the military and the protestors. talking to the aclu in the next hour about the showdown in texas. we'll have reporters coming along from "buzzfeed" and also the atlantic. to cairo first. >> announcer: this is the "full court press."

>> quick check of other headlines. some other headlines making news before we go to cairo. den is rodman wants the nobel peace prize. >> bill: give it to him. >> the former nba player telling "sports illustrated" his mission is to break the ice between the u.s. and north korea. he doesn't know why it has been left to him to smooth things over. he says keeping us safe is not his job but something is seriously wrong if he doesn't finish in the top three for the next nobel peace prize. he is going back to north korea in august to vacation with kim jong-un. >> bill: funny carol and i were thinking about where we might go on our vacation this year. north korea wasn't on the list. homer bailey is a no-hitter king! the cincinnati reds pitcher threw his second no-hitter in ten months yesterday helping propel the reds to a 3-0 win over the san francisco giants.

last one was back in september. he is the only player to throw two in a row without anyone else throwing a no-hitter in baseball history. the last person to do that was noland ryan back in 1974. >> that's really cool. that he threw the last two no-hitters in baseball. personally, i find it more impressive that he's a pitcher with the first name homer. i find that to be more incredible. >> bill: he was born to play baseball. >> a big day in new york city tomorrow. the statue of liberty will reopen to the public after being closed for the better part of two years and originally closed in 2011 and was hit hard by super storm sandy last fall. 75% of liberty island was completely flooded. but it is now back and ready for business. the first ferries will arrive by 9:00 tomorrow morning and people can begin going up the 305-foot tall lady liberty immediately. >> bill: happy 4th indeed.

yes, indeed. military told president morsi -- egyptian military, he had 48 hours to meet the protestor's demands or he was going to be out of a job. the president yesterday gave a speech saying i'm not going anywhere. joining us from cairo on our news line, abigail is the cairo bureau chief for "the washington post." abigail, good to talk to you this morning. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> bill: let me ask you first of all the 48-hour deadline, have we reached it or when does it run out? >> the deadline is expected to run out sometime late this afternoon. now egypt does not typically stick to exact timing on anything. but it was issued around 4:00 p.m. close to 48 hours ago. so the country is very anxious right now. it is very tense here. with everyone --

>> bill: what time is it now in cairo? >> it is currently middle of the afternoon. >> bill: middle of the afternoon. so president morsi says i'm not going anywhere. the military says you are. is there any real doubt how this is going to play out? how can morsi stay if the military -- they ousted mubarak they can oust him too can't they? >> they probably can. the military is much more powerful at this point than any other body in egypt. and a lot of analysts and indeed a lot of morsi opponents are saying that this is a done deal. has already happened is effectively a coup because morsi is quickly leading support including from oris lambist parties, members of his own cabinet have dropped off and obama seems to have heed the

demands of the protestors and they have come out against morsi. it is unlikely he will be able to hold on to power. the real question is what is he going to do. i think forced out and what are his supporters going to do. >> bill: so many questions. does that mean then that there will be a general taking over and running -- the military running the country until there are new elections or will the military just take over and it will be a military dictatorship? do we know? >> we really don't know at this point. most likely, the military will take over security at least and dictate its own sort of plan of action for a new transition so to speak. now, opposition numbers have been calling for a sort of transitional council to replace morsi and -- or substitute

temporary president, the head of egypt's highest court or another sort of activist figure and then they're calling for early elections. but a lot of analysts have said this is -- effectively the military taking this role means they'll continue to have a very big say in whatever happens next including the next civilian leader. >> bill: abigail hauslohner is the cairo bureau chief for "the washington post." morsi was elected a year ago. what's the beef with him with the egyptian people? >> well, this started about six months ago as an opposition movement that was largely composed of -- you know, liberal secular elites and loyalists of the old region eem. people who were really just angry. that they lost out. egypt's first democratic election. they lost out big. the islamists.

then what happened was the country has gradually gotten more and more frustrated. egypt is in a whole lot of economic turmoil right now. it owes billions of dollars in internal and international debt. and the unemployment is ordinary egyptians, a lot of poor people who had no real political allegiance before including a lot of people who voted for morsi in the election are now -- has really jumped on the opposition bandwagon. they want it to see him leave. the main reasons are the economy, really a failure to bring security back to this country where we're also seeing a rise in crime. >> bill: at the same time, egypt is sort of -- they've taken pride in the fact we'll be this new democracy in the heart of the arab world. so they have their first democratic elections. the guys in office -- the guy's in office for a year and then they throw him out in effect, force him out and have the military take over again.

i mean, do you get any feeling in talking to people, this is not really what democracy is all about? >> well, there certainly is a lot of irony there. you know, the muslim brotherhood and morsi supporters certainly say no. this is not what democracy is all about. that's really the crux of their argument that morsi has constitutional legitimacy. that he came to power through an election that was largely deemed free and fair. and therefore you know, crowds of people, particularly the military do not have the right to just kick him out of power. now, it doesn't bode well for egypt's transition. that's what a lot of political experts are saying. that having the military step in so soon is not a good sign for a country trying to transition to democracy. you do see some activists -- some of those who really protested to bring down mubarak and later protested against military rule during the

transition are feeling a little wary about this whole thing. now, they all wanted morsi to go and some of them were calling on the military to step in to help them. but you know there is sort of a sense of wariness among the activists that wait a second, this feels a lot like last year and this could not -- this might not go well. the military is obviously not a particularly democratic institution here. >> bill: right. what is the role of the united states, if any? in what's going on? >> well, to egyptians that's a matter of contention. now, the united states, from washington standpoint has really tried to -- tried not to take sides. that's the official. and you know, saying it has supported the democratic process it has dealt with an elected leader and it is dealing with morsi. now, what we've seen yesterday

and monday is the obama administration appeared to take a step back from morsi. and a call from obama to morsi really urging him to heed the demands of the protestors and do something quickly to resolve the crisis. so you know, i think the suns trying to -- trying not to get involved as much as possible. now on the egyptian street, we have -- with both sides basically are accusing the united states government of backing their opponents. at the same time -- and calling on the icc to interfere. at the same time, you have this conflicting message, no, please do interfere but support us. so you're hearing that reasoning from both morsi supporters and his opponents right now. >> bill: finally, i've got to ask you. we were so inspired by the crowds in ta here square a year

ago. and this time. but it has been this risk of violence at the same time. do you feel safe as a reporter walking around cairo and walking particularly in the square? >> you know, violence is a glowing threat right now. you know what we're seeing at night especially is clashes are breaking out with increasing intensity between morsi supporters and opponents and also egypt has become a dangerous place particularly in large crowds for women. there is a startling number of sexual assaults and rapes that have been happening. we're seeing a lot of that around the square at night. also during the day. so it is -- you know, an increasingly tense situation. as we saw a couple of days ago over the weekend an american student was actually stabbed to death in alexandria while he was watching a protest. so you know, it is very tense

and not particularly safe at the moment. >> bill: take care of yourself abigail. appreciate your work. be careful there and thanks so much for taking time for us this morning. we're watching the situation very closely. abigail is the bureau chief in cairo for "the washington post." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." that take you inside the headlines. real, gripping, current. documentaries... on current tv. for true stories. with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. real, gripping, current. documentaries... on current tv.

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know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: what do you say? 25 minutes after the hour here. on the "full court press." this wednesday morning.

july 3. franky will be with us from "the atlantic" for the next half hour of the "full court press." peter, you have a story? >> yeah, wanted to throw this in quickly. we still can't eat horse meat here in america. but we are able to slaughter horses here. >> bill: excuse me. it is not against the law to eat it. >> it is not against the law to eat it but you can't sell it for consumption. but we can kill horses in slaughter horses then give it to other countries and then they can eat it. that's how we do things here in america. well, the government approved a new horse slaughter plant in iowa yesterday. so we're going to be killing more horses. >> bill: this is the second one. >> the second one. >> bill: other one is in new mexico, i believe. >> indeed it is. >> bill: they're not up and

operating yet. >> no, not yet. >> bill: i read that story. so what's happening -- this is like -- this is screwed up. so what the department of agriculture is saying is they're asking congress to make it illegal to slaughter horses in this country for consumption. but they say since the law presently allows it, then they have to approve slaughterhouses the operation of slaughterhouses. >> right. >> bill: so therefore they have approved two of them while they are asking congress to make it illegal. >> that's basically what's going on. >> bill: that's a mess. that's screwed up. you know. i don't buy that excuse. if we're really -- and we talked about this before. i lived in a country i lived in switzerland. i did my graduate work there.

where there were butcher shops where they just sold horse meat. we were in college. and that's all we could afford and i ate a lot of horse meat. but if we really feel it's wrong, right to slaughter horses for consumption the department of agriculture doesn't have to approve the slaughterhouses. they're just trying to have it both ways. they really think -- if they really are petitioning congress and they are to make it illegal, then they should not be approving new slaughterhouses in this country. they could just not do it and let somebody sue them and say we think it's wrong. i don't get it. i think we're going to hear a lot about this. people will be really angry about this. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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well more -- a lot more talk this morning about what's happening with nsa but particularly what's happening with edward snowden. and we find out that the president of bolivia was rerooted all over europe yesterday in his official plane while he was trying to head back to his country. several countries would not let him across their airspace because the rumor got out that he might have edward snowden on board. we check in with garantz who is politics editor with "the atlantic." >> thank you for having me on this morning. >> bill: i know before we get into some of this -- serious nsa talk, you just came back from the aspen ideas institute right? >> yes. the aspen ideas festival in aspen, colorado. >> bill: festival.

and maybe the highlight of that -- from what i've seen was this interview with justice elena kagan who had -- dropped a bombshell out there. didn't she? >> she did. she did it in this casual, funny way where she described the fact that she goes hunting with antonin scalia. upper west side law raised law professor, doesn't think of hunting as something you take up in midlife. she's going hunting with him a couple of times a year. she's been game hunting with him once in wyoming. she said she bags herself a deer. shot herself a deer. >> bill: i've never been to -- invited to the aspen ideas festival but i wouldn't imagine that went over very well with that crowd. i don't think there are a lot of hunters in that audience. >> there were some hunters in the audience. there are some people who are -- you know, not really into big

game hunting in particular. of some them have places in wyoming and the environment out there. there is a smattering of hissing in the audience. not very much though. it's interesting. both as an insight into the court and the relationships in the court and also just as an incentive to her that she does this. >> bill: was there any talk and discussion out there about nsa and not so much snowden as nsa and the spying program? >> there was a great deal of discussion about the nsa and the spying program. in fact, the vice-chairman, booz allen hamilton was out there and mentioned during a panel -- he was asked how people inside the company look at snowden and he said they look at him sort of like -- he was described as a traitor. general alexander has not used the word to describe him.

so that was interesting. >> bill: did he talk about -- i mean booz allen certainly played a role here in the sense that they hired edward snowden. hired him despite some questions about his background. does that enter the discussion about why did you hire this guy and also how many of their employees do have top-secret clearance? >> well, they didn't get into the questions of why they hired edward snowden but former congresswoman jane harmon was out there as well and was discussing how people who were "infrastructure analysts" like edward snowden was. sort of a level beyond that. they're almost like the internal hacker core of the nsa and the national security establishment. looking for vulnerabilities and infrastructure. there is only about 1,000 of them. so there has been this discussion that maybe both jobs need to be taken out of contracting positions and have

what they call two person security level where any kind of major sort of intrusion into a system requires two people signing off instead of one. >> bill: what was that phrase that you use? what kind of a hacker is he? >> infrastructure analyst. >> bill: infrastructure analyst. but you said really all they are, they're professional hackers, right? >> well, when president obama called him a 29-year-old hacker, he just turned 30 now. >> bill: 30-year-old hacker. >> caller: it wasn't actually an insult it is perhaps one of the more accurate descriptions of what he was doing inside the agency. as we're starting to learn, the details are coming out he wasn't just the systems administrator. he wasn't the i.t. guy, he was trained to look for vulnerabilities in systems. he might have been testing for vulnerabilities within the internal nsa system for all we know. >> bill: we now know that

there's not only the massive collection of phone data in this country tracking e-mails from this country to other countries. but the latest information from edward snowden is that we've been monitoring communications all across europe and at some embassies and missions here in this country. again, any growing attention to whether or not this program might be like out of hand, out of control? or do people sort of accept it as necessary in this day and age? >> i think people in other countries don't see it as necessary in this day and age and don't accept it. i think this is attention that snowden is doing. i think a lot of people when you first came on the scene and revealed the programs that were catching either domestic meta

data from phone calls or catching e-mails on the -- and -- from people overseas communicating with americans you know, people were -- they wanted to know that. now that they're fielding information about u.s. intelligence activities against the european union against russia against china, you know, stuff that has staggered issue national security intelligence. efforts. and that is, in fact, the mission of the nsa that no one is contesting. the rest of the world doesn't like to be spied upon but i think some people are raising questions about whether or not -- why snowden is doing this at this point. it sort of changes his place. >> bill: garance franke-ruta is with the atlantic.com.

do you sense any movement, maybe in congress or is congress just going to say look, this is what nsa's gotta do? president obama came out in africa the other day and said this is just what all countries do. and this is what we do. president bush supported him yesterday. so other than ron wyden and mark udall from colorado, i don't hear many voices, maybe keith ellison in the house. john conyers in the house. not a lot of voices saying this is wrong and we ought to change it. >> yeah, i think you know, edward snowden is finding -- there is a huge pushback from the hill against this revelation. and the fact that he's made them i think i -- we make it more information over time. the president said he wants things to be declassified.

to the effect they can be about the programs domestically. we haven't seen that information yet. i'm hoping we'll see it at some point. and at that point, you know, there may be more of a movement toward maybe modifying the program as they operate domestically. but in the international arena i can't imagine anybody in congress pushening for changes on that. people in other countries might push for changes on that. the germans in particular may push back. they're very concerned with privacy and security. >> bill: i read in "the new york times" this morning in their lead editorial that according to these latest documents, again we are -- the nsa is collecting from german citizens right every month monitoring 500 million e-mails texts or -- i guess that's it. internet communications. 500 million a month. no wonder they're concerned

right? >> absolutely. the question also rises, what are we doing with all of this data? i don't think we have the capacity to even analyze it. so we're storing it. great description in "the new york times" story of the nsa as this kind of data hoarder where they basically want to keep everything in case one day they can get to it or use it for something. most of the data is being collect and it is not being analyzed. >> bill: that's an excellent argument. it is a reverse of what a lot of people are saying. a lot of people are saying we need to collect all of this information, right so we can find out the little bit that we with need which is going to lead us to a terrorist. i think the reverse is true, for a, right? they can have so much information that they'll never be able to find the vital thing that they need. >> that's one of the things that's changed.

>> bill: that's why they're building that new facility out there in utah. >> right. i know. data storage. >> bill: welcome back from aspen. politics editor for "the atlantic" based here in washington, d.c. come on by and see us in the studio one of these days, okay? >> sounds good. >> bill: you got it. you can follow her reporting. she covers a whole lot of stuff and does a good job of it at the atlantic.com. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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>> bill: here we go. 13 minutes before the top of the hour. i gotta tell you i love to -- i love to play audio of elena kagan. this is in her interview out of -- this is justice kagan. a lot of important things to talk about. and she started talking about the fact that you know, there may be liberals and conservatives on the court but we all get along and in fact, we're really good friends. a lot of good people in the court. and you would be surprised at some of the people we might hang out with and what we might get into. we were surprised to find out she hangs out with justice scalia. she's a big game hunter. here's how that interview went. >> i shoot birds with him. two or three times a year now. and then he -- at the end of last year, we had been bird shooting four or five times.

i'll tell you how that came to be but before i do -- so he said to me, it's time for big game hunting. and we actually went out to wyoming this past fall to shoot deer and antelope. and we did. [ laughter ] >> getting hisses from the audience. >> bill: and then she said she got her deer. so she got a deer. i don't know. look -- i'm not against deer hunting. but i wouldn't do it. i wouldn't shoot a deer. and no, i don't -- >> venison is delicious. >> bill: i said i'm not against deer hunting and i have eaten venison. i don't particularly like it. what i said was i would not shoot a deer. >> i'm not a hunter. >> bill: i wouldn't shoot anything to tell the truth.

i wouldn't shoot a rabbit. >> you would shoot a snake. >> bill: i particularly wouldn't shoot a snake. >> you would shoot a bat. >> bill: why shoot a snake? >> it is something you don't like. you would shoot a bat. >> bill: you try to shoot a bat. be my guest! >> good point. >> bill: okay. i don't know what the transition is. what really bothers me, these days, we haven't talked about it at all. that is you cannot turn on television today without watching that fat george zimmerman sitting there listening to this testimony. and -- not his body weight although he has put on some pounds. what gets me about george zimmerman, is this trial worth the attention that it's getting and the full time coverage on -- who's carrying it, peter?

i know msnbc. >> they've gone essentially wall to wall when the trial is on. >> bill: i saw live on fox, a good deal of time. i've seen it live on cnn a good deal of time. headline news is like out of control on us. i guess all you can say is it's summer. it's 4th of july break. and there's nothing else going on. and there's not, right? president obama's out of town. house is out of town. the senate's out of town. unless they're going to cover tahir square 24 hours a day they have a lot of time to fill. i'm sure some of them are saying thank god for the george zimmerman trial because we can just -- and there are cameras in the courtroom. >> which you don't always get. >> bill: so we turned it on.

and they program ten hours for us. yeah. >> it is amazing. what i think is also interesting about this is one of the stories that came out of the last time we looked at ratings was that headline news did so well. they said partly because of the jodi arias trial because they carried that around the clock. and so now they think that they have to -- they're trying to replicate what hln has done by airing an entire court trial which is not what hln does. >> bill: msnbc is trying to -- >> republiccate the success. >> bill: it was like watching espn. it was like watching a sports game right? color commentary like all the way through it. i just -- i would love to know what you think about this. 1-866-55-press.

maybe it's because i think this case was closed a long time ago. as far as i'm concerned. george zimmerman. we know he killed trayvon martin. i don't believe for a second he killed him in self-defense. doesn't add up at all. the latest is he said that trayvon martin jumped out of the bushes at him. they showed the scene. there aren't any bushes. >> exactly. >> bill: there are so many holes in this guy's testimony. or story if you will. so maybe -- you know, i just think that it's television at its worst. we're subjected to it. i guess the only answer is read a good book. >> find a good book. >> read a newspaper. get your news. >> bill: go out for a run. go to the gym. turn the tv on.

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the way home yesterday? what do you do? you take the day off. >> damn right. >> bill: that's what the president's schedule is today. the white house simply says on wednesday, the president has no public events scheduled. and that means there will be no press briefing either. at the white house. >> i'm okay with that. >> bill: yeah. and i just wanted you to know that today is the birthday of julian assange. [ laughter ] >> really? >> bill: yeah. throwing a little party at the ecuadorian embassy. >> very exclusive. >> bill: the guest of honor is -- ♪ this is your birthday song ♪ ♪ it doesn't last too long, hey ♪ >> bill: john boehner singing happy birthday to julian assange on the "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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tourists. otherwise. the house is out of town. the senate is out of town. and they will be for the rest of the week. the president the first lady, however, and the first family back in town from their week-long trip to africa. arrived late last night. on the south lawn of the white house. good to see you today. we'll bring you up to date on what little news there is today. from our nation's capital around the country and around the globe. and of course, take your calls at 1-866-55-press. look forward to hearing from you on twitter. at bpshow and on facebook, all of our friends on facebook come in at facebook.com/billpressshow. on this wednesday morning. started raining again this morning in washington d.c. we've had rain every day it seems. it is going to clear up for the weekend. we know that. it is going to clear up for the

4th. peter ogborn and dan henning in the house ready to go. hello, guys. >> happy almost independence day. >> bill: almost independence day. alichia cruz has the phones covered. cyprian bowlding, he's already off on his july 4th break. and monty is here filling in for him and doing a good job keeping us looking good on current tv. >> yeah, man. >> bill: what's happening? >> i have to tell you, i was just down in south carolina which being in south carolina, that close to the 4th of july is kind of like being in the north pole when it is close to christmas because they have fireworks -- warehouses. when you're on the interstate and you cross into south carolina, they have giant warehouses filled with fireworks. so those are contraband here in maryland, d.c., virginia area. i picked up some pretty heavy duty fireworks. >> we know what you're doing tomorrow. >> you cannot buy -- you can buy

sparklers. but you can't buy the fun things that go boom. >> bill: guns? can you buy them in another state and bring them in? >> you cannot possess self-propelled fireworks in the state of maryland. >> let me rephrase that. a friend of mine was just down in south carolina and he may or may not have brought back a bunch of fireworks. >> bill: yeah. i see. [ laughter ] >> don't worry. i hit the dump button. >> we could blow some stuff up, man. >> bill: oh, man. unfortunately, too many kids' fingers, too many kids' fingers have been -- >> i don't let kids come anywhere close to fireworks but look this is america. we can blow up some fireworks here and there. fireworks just don't cut it. >> bill: i would say let the pros do the fireworks.

>> i'm from the south. >> bill: i'll tell you who's a pro. homer bailey is a pro. man, did he pull it off last night. you might have heard about it. cincinnati reds pitcher pitched a no-hitter. but that's good. that's great for him. but this is the second no-hitter of his career. the second he's done in ten months and he's the first pitcher to pitch a no-hitter since he did the last time. here's what it sounded like last night on mlb baseball. >> on the ground to third for frasier. he did it. holy moses! homer bailey's second career no-hitter. >> holy moses. >> bill: holy moses. homer bailey comes through. name like homer gotta be. gotta be good. >> bill: exactly. edward mcmorris santoro will be here from "buzzfeed" as a

"friend of bill" this hour. we'll start off this hour by finding out what's happening in texas with that over the top anti-abortion legislation they're trying to get passed down there. we'll speak to jennifer from the aclu. >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> a quick check of other headlines making news on this wednesday. i was about to say friday. if you ever dined at long john silver's, there's a chance you have eaten the worst restaurant meal in america. it is the big catch with onion rings also comes with hush puppies. it is a fried haddock 33 grams of trans fat 19 grams of saturated fat 3700 milligrams of sodium. 1300 calories. the amount of trans fat, 16 times the recommended daily limit. it is like taking four sticks of

butter pouring salt on them and eating them in one sitting. >> sounds like a paula deen recipe. >> bill: it does. i purposely have never entered a long john silver restaurant. and now i never will. >> i told you the story about the guy who came in and ordered the bucket of fried dough that they gave to him for free. pat ellison on twitter we're tweeting at bp show, the little pieces of fried batter are called cracklin's and long john silvers serves a fillet of fish served on a bed of cracklin's. they lay a bed down of crispy, fried dough and put more doughy, fried fish on top of it. >> bill: cracklin'. that sounds like a paula deen recipe. >> dennis rodman wants a nobel peace prize. the former nba player telling "sports illustrated" in a new interview that his mission is to break the ice between the u.s. and north korea. he doesn't know why it has been

left to him to smooth things over. he says keep us safe is not his job. it is the black man's job when referring to president obama. >> bill: last time i saw dennis rodman -- >> something is seriously wrong if he doesn't finish in the top three for the next nobel prize. >> seriously wrong all right. >> going to north korea on vacation next month with kim jong-un. >> why not. >> bill: they're going backpacking. oh god. >> sports desk, a big change coming to the putting green. bill north korea. >> a big change coming to the putting green on the pga tour. in 2016, you'll no longer be allowed to use anchored putters referred to as belly putter where is the top of the club rests on the player's belly as he putts as an anchor point. they've been used in four of the last seven major championship

wins. but they're seen as taking some of the skill required out of the putting stroke making it less challenging. in two years, no more. >> bill: that's cheating. cheating using one of the putters. >> not yet. >> bill: it already is. it hasn't been called yet. >> i'm all for getting rid of it. >> bill: yes indeed. the texas legislature in special session and rick perry is vowing that they're going to use this to get that anti-abortion measure passed. and state senator wendy davis is vowing that she'll continue to fight it. monitoring what's happening in texas and other states on this issue, jennifer is the freedom project director, loves that title. reproductive freedom project director for the aclu. joining us on our news line this morning. hi jennifer, good to have you with us. >> good morning. thanks so much for having me. >> bill: where are we in the

showdown in texas? >> well, we couldn't be at a more important time in texas and really around the country. in texas and around the country they have started really what is the war on women 2.0. it is critical now people stand up and say enough is enough. and tell politicians to stop interfering in our most personal and private decisions. last night in texas they shut off debate. there were more than 1,000 people still wanting to testify to express their views about this dangerous bill that would shut down all but five clinics in the state and outlaw abortion in more than half of state. they shut off the process. and they voted to advance the bill. >> bill: they shut off debate for people who wanted to testify or for members of the legislature who wanted to speak on it or both? >> both. they said that was enough and they voted and on it goes.

you know, but what's really important for folks to know is that it's not just texas. it's north dakota where they passed a ban on almost all abortions. it is alabama where they passed a law that would shut down all but two of the clinics in the state. it is wisconsin where the governor is about to sign a similar law that would shut down most of the clinics. it is ohio, arkansas, arizona and north carolina. it is all around the country. where extreme politicians are trying to shut down women's health centers and to outlaw abortion, clinic by clinic and state by state. >> bill: and is there any doubt in your mind this is all being coordinated right? >> that's exactly right. that's a great point. this is not some home-grown effort in texas about what's good for women and families in texas. this is all part of a national orchestrated plot to shut down every clinic, one by one, state by state until women cannot

access abortion. it might still be legal but women won't be able to get it. >> bill: is there, on the other side a coordinated national effort or any way that people who don't live in one of the states can help reverse the trend or stop some of the bills from getting passed? >> absolutely. we're seeing people really take to the streets to protest this to say enough is enough. on monday, close to 10,000 people came out to protest this law in texas. and can come on to our web site at the aclu and you can sign up to stand with us and with the women of texas. what's really important is this is happening all around the country. and that people let their legislators know they won't stand for it. a simple call to your legislator, a simple e-mail does a lot. and it is really the time, now

more than ever that we need people to stand up and make their voices heard. come to their state legislators. they can also make a simple call or write an e-mail or come to our web site. at www.aclu.org. and make their voices heard. >> bill: aclu.org. so is there one -- it looks like -- i was going to ask you if there's one particular law that they're trying to get passed in all of the states. texas was the 20-week limit correct? >> texas has a bunch of bills all rolled into one. they weren't satisfied with one. one of the laws that folks are using, really we're seeing around the country. we saw it in mississippi and alabama. it just went through the north carolina senate last night and it is included in the texas bill is this law that says doctors who provide abortions

have to have special privileges at local hospitals. and numerous medical groups have come out saying that that's unnecessary and that that's just designed to shut women's health centers down because abortion is so safe that -- and so rarely requires anyone to seek further medical treatment that doctors can't get the special staff privileges. the american college of obstetricians have opposed these. the texas hospital association opposed the bill in texas. numerous medical groups have come out and opposed these. politicians don't care. this is about shutting down clinics and making abortion impossible to get. >> the aclu has done a good job of focusing on what's happening in state after state after a state, not just in texas and ohio but a whole mess of them. i read this morning where

senator marco rubio has agreed that he's going to carry basically the texas bill, at least the 20-week limit in the united states senate. this has already passed the house, correct? >> it has already passed the house. you know you think -- you think -- after the last election that members of congress would have learned their lesson. would have heard what the people said loud and clear. was that they didn't want politicians interfering in our most personal and private decisions. but apparently the message hasn't gotten through to a few people. >> bill: obviously it has not gotten through. you can see marco rubio who may be in trouble with some extremists -- extreme conservatives on the immigration issue is now trying to placate them by carrying the legislation on this side. jennifer, very troubling what's going on. good that the aclu is on top of this issue as it is on many issues affecting our basic

rights. join and help them out at aclu.org. and thank you, jennifer for joining us this morning. >> thanks so much for having me. >> bill: great. when we come back, what's happening with the president of bolivia being chased around europe looking for a place where he could land and refuel. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." building up to this. >>bill shares his views, now it's your turn. >>i know you're going to want to weigh in on these issues. >>connect with "full court press with bill press" at facebook.com/billpressshow and on twitter at bpshow. >>i believe people are hungry for it.

>> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they

thinking? >> only on current tv. >> announcer: heard around the country and seen on current tv this is the "bill press show." >> bill: hey, it is 25 minutes after the hour now here on the "full court press." this wednesday morning. he finally showed up. >> oh, man. >> we need to do a montage of all of the things that bill says when i show up on the radio show. >> bill: evan mcmorris

santoro covers the white house for "buzzfeed." we're buddies together at the white house briefings. giving him a hard time here because his cab got lost this morning. probably forgot to tell him southeast. you probably told him southwest. good to see you. >> good to see you too. i'm sorry to have punksality issues. >> you should have blamed the metro like everybody else does. >> i'm very serious about being on the show. i lf -- i love being on the show. i think about it the night before. >> he did tweet about it last night. >> sometimes we have transportation problems. >> bill: you and i covering the white house, too bad we don't have a briefing today because the first question to jay carney would be what the hell is going on with the announcement that a major provision of obamacare everybody said was going to kick in 2014, companies have to provide over 50 employees this

very to provide healthcare to their employees or they'll pay a fine. the white house says it is not going to kick in. we'll delay it for a year. why? >> this is the classic example of a negative news dump. obama was over the air -- over the water in air force i flying back from africa when they announced this. you know, the administration says this is because -- this is a complicated part of the law. it is complicated to enforce. it is complicated to figure out how to make it work and audit it. so we'll wait a year, get all of that stuff right and then we're going to implement this part of the law. now, you know, the people who are supporters of obamacare supporters of the law know that already most people, companies of 50 people already get insurance anyway. this is a huge part of how the insurance company works in america. this idea is to sort of codify that and make it permanent. lock it in. we'll have this section of healthcare provided by big

employers. but the people who are opposed to the law say this is an example of showing how cumbersome and overwrought the law is. what the obama administration says is it is too complicated to implement right away. we need to take more time before we do it. >> bill: they've had how long? two years right? >> got a lot of flak for having it kick in so late because people wanted it to happen right away in 2009. >> bill: i think it is going to be tough to explain. we'll get jay carney to explain. we may have to wait until monday to look into it. we'll be back with evan mcmorris santoro o and you on the "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." you must be high. >> i think the number one thing that viewers like about "the young turks" is that we're honest. i think the audience gets that i actually mean it.

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take care of most employees at the workplace and require companies to provide healthcare or they have to pay a fine if they don't. how are people defending this? >> well, i did a story yesterday with nick pappas who was the former white house point person on communicating obamacare back during obamacare being writ and put into law. now he's out of the administration now but he was in there. he was the guy who will talk about obamacare all the time. talked to me yesterday. you know, said look, all republicans are calling me up and saying look, we won! >> bill: republicans are saying we told them it was too complicated. so now that they've delayed the major part of it, let's repeal it again. >> well, yeah. but so nick pappas told me, he said if you look at the law most of it is being put into place, right? the important things that people

really wanted, the pre-existing condition stuff is already in there. extending your insurance coverage was already in place. and the exchanges all are going to happen. >> bill: changes do kick in. >> all of the things that come into place are about expanding healthcare coverage and making sure that nobody doesn't have it. that's all going to still happen. this part is like a little delay on this complicated part of the law. they want to get it right. also, he said most employers already provide this insurance anyway. we're trying to make the insurance better. that's the defense that's been coming out. we've seen republicans begin to sort of spool up their political language on this. they want to come out in 2014. >> bill: you know they're going to. with the delay it gives them a chance to say it hasn't kicked in yet. we'll see that it never kicks in. we'll stop it.

and democrats told me that doesn't make much sense because what obama has done is what the republicans wanted him to do which was take a look at all of the business complaints. we're all complaining about this mandate. this requirement and these rules and obama took a look at that and said okay, well, maybe it's not ready yet. we'll slow it down and get it right. so democrats think that might be an argument they have to respond to republicans with. >> bill: i think on the surface it just looks bad. it looks amateur hour. the businesses did not want this in the first place. they opposed it to begin with. a year from now they're still going to be bitching about the fact it is too much and we need another year or two years to get ready for it. it seems to me having to get ready -- got the law passed as weak as it is. then you gotta stick with it.

and you don't back down and say hey, we're not ready. we're going to take another year. >> i will say i think there will be a lot of people who agree with you. democratic strategists i talked to last night got involved in the white house politics or in the white house. was telling me that you know, he thinks this helps make the argument for the republicans. it makes it harder for folks trying to run in 2014. >> bill: on another topic again, we're having a briefing here today because jay carney is not holding a briefing. >> am i being carney right now? excuse me, bill, i'll have to go back and get you an answer on that. i appreciate the question though. i really appreciate it. >> bill: how do you think the white house would respond today if we have a briefing -- mr. carney, i want to ask you did the white house have anything to do with the fact that france and italy and portugal denied the president of

bolivia permission to travel across their countries in his own government plane. did the white house ask france and italy and portugal to turn him away? >> jay carney would say -- i would refer those questions to the state department of justice. >> bill: what do you think? >> listen, it is very clear that this administration is engaged with trying to both look like they don't care that much about this snowden but also try to get this snowden back. obama had this press conference in africa like snowden who? then we find out that putin and obama -- the high level -- the fbi and whatever the new kgb have been talking. putin comes out and says the thing where i don't want someone to hurt my american partners anymore. clearly, there are a lot of discussions going on about getting this guy back here for prosecution. so i think that it would be hard

to believe that anything -- any move related to him, somebody in the administration is not watching, i have no evidence of any of that. i think that we'll have to wait and see what carney doesn't tell us when he does finally speak about it. but you know, you're seeing -- biden called ecuador -- >> bill: what does france have against snowden? nothing. it's hard to believe that france italy and portugal acted on their own. would you agree with that? >> i don't know. they're all bud buddies in nato. if you're snowden one of the most -- you went from being a rock star internationally to all of these countries that yeah, let's have a lot to do with the u.s. no no, no, not us, not us. clearly there's pressure somewhere saying you really shouldn't help this guy out.

>> bill: but flying over -- for the president of another country to fly over the continent, they won't allow that. this is taking it to stakes we've never seen before. >> it is wild. like an old spy movie or something at this point. >> bill: totally. peter and i have been talking about this. the president was asked about this in tanzania. the first day he said i'm not going to scramble planes to get a 29-year-old hacker. instead, what we'll do is we just won't let planes carrying him allow to refuel. we'll let them run out of fuel. that's what we'll do. >> he didn't scramble jets. he just will let the president's jet crash. >> bill: but then he was asked again the following day now what about all of our european allies are suddenly upset. they find out we're not only spying on our own citizens, we're spying on them and their citizens as well. but the president says hey come

on. this is no big deal. here he is. >> obama: every intelligence service, not just ours but every european intelligence service every asian intelligence service, wherever there is an intelligence service here's one thing they'll be doing. they'll be trying to understand the world better and what's going on in world capitals around the world. from sources that aren't available through "the new york times" or nbc news. >> bill: we're just trying to -- >> i love that line. sources aren't available. >> bill: the line i love is we're just trying to understand the world better. that's why we're spying on germany. that's why we're spying on france. we're just trying to understand the world better. >> people don't really -- i think it is something we don't talk about that much now because the cold war is over and the old, great era of this kind of cold war spying is more -- now it is like we use drones and that kind of stuff and we have spying in the middle east. and in afghanistan. battlefield intelligence stuff is dangerous stuff. sort of old cat and mouse game.

you know. meeting in a fancy hotel whatever kind of stuff they would do. we don't talk about that very much. it seems like a lot of it is still going on. fancy conferences in the hotels. somebody in there putting a bug in the foreign minister's room. i don't know. it is an umbrella, i don't know. but that's sort of -- this still happens. we just don't talk about it very much. clearly, the president is not interested in changing it. he's like this is what people do. >> bill: think about this. what if dick cheney came out and said of course we're spying on everybody. we're just trying to understand the world better. we would be -- democrats would be all over that. right? all over that. raising holy hell. >> we've a seen that in the polls. there's been a partisan split on this. >> bill: i just want to point out how far we've come. "the new york times" in its lead editorial this morning points out -- they're talking about the fact that this latest revelation

from snowden that this massive spying going on by nsa on european citizens in this country. 500 million phone calls e-mails and text messages were capture -- we're capturing in germany. 500 million a month in germany alone. "the new york times" reports we have come a long way from 1929 when secretary of state henry stinson shut down the state department's code breaking office saying "gentlemen, do not read each other's mail." isn't that great? >> bill: gentlemen, do not read each other's mail. >> oh, man. those days are long gone. >> it is true. on the one hand, we're talking about a high-level bugging of

each other trade delegations or whatever which many people didn't think -- what we thought was happening but there is the part where the defense has been we're not doing this nsa stuff -- we're not doing the full force of stuff to americans but we're doing it to nonamericans. we saw big protests against obama in germany. a place that had welcomed him. polls still show they like him a lot. they had welcomed him in 2007, 2008. >> people that are upset. >> think about it. if you were one of the other countries. >> bill: they shouldn't be upset. all we're trying to do is understand the world better. evan mcmorris santoro. it is almost the 4th of july. not quite. your comments still welcome at 1-866-55-press. we'll be right back. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current tv.

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try to get an answer. >> you often do. you often get a good question in. >> bill: but nobody gets a good answer. >> no. that's not how it works. >> bill: most often response is i appreciate the question but i have no comment on that, right? i'm not going to comment on an on-going investigation. peter? >> we're taking your comments on bpshow on twitter. clarkson says i'm kicking myself for voting for obama but then again, look who we had to choose from. >> bill: don't kick yourself for voting for obama. you made the right choice. certainly better of the two by far. >> when we talk about the other option if we had to choose from, we're talking about mitt romney. a nugget we learned yesterday dan has a new book coming out in august called collision 2012 talk become the presidential race. it turns out mitt romney really didn't want to run for president. >> bill: well, that showed.

>> he reports in his book that the romney family gathered in hawaii before he made the announcement he was entering the presidential race. they took a vote, a romney family vote and mitt actually voted no against running for president. >> bill: the vote was 10-2. >> romney was one of the ones that said no. >> and it showed. >> bill: follow your instincts, mitt. you go into a presidential campaign to seek the white house, lead your party. con your party into making you the candidate and you don't want to be running in the first place. >> well, i mean he said he had to or whatever. that was his line. but didn't someone on the republican side make fun of obama for going on vacation to hawaii? it is all foggy in my head because i covered it closely. it is a million years ago. >> bill: the very first year that he went there, there was some serious people who said that he should not go to hawaii

because he should stay in this country and go on vacation. >> i just want to be clear when my entire family -- >> bill: people in the media that said that. >> when my entire family gathered at our compound in hawaii, i voted yes to running for president. >> and the vote was -- >> 1-3. >> bill: we're talking about a lot of issues this morning including the latest about the president of bolivia rumored to have edward snowden on his plane which he did not. not able to fly over a lot of european airspace yesterday. ended up getting detained -- had to go to vienna to refuel and spend nine hours there before they could leave again. garrett is calling from los angeles on all of the latest. good morning. >> caller: hi, bill. how you doing? i think snowden's five minutes of fame is up. this is not going to end well for him. >> bill: i agree with that. >> caller: what's really sad is unfortunately, i think george zimmerman is going to walk and edward snowden will get brought in the same week. >> bill: could very well

happen that way. i'm not sure zimmerman gets a walk. a lot of holes in his story. here's the thing. i don't think it is going to end up -- i don't know what's going to happen to snowden. i don't think it will end up well with him. the story is not what happens to snowden. the story is what the nsa is doing. that's what i want to focus on. is this massive collection of data. which ron wyden says is a massive invasion of the right of privacy and nobody seems to care. >> snowden has shown no interest in taking the spotlight off himself. he put that statement out the other day that was very incendiary. i think -- i agree with you. i think -- we should talk about what comes out. but we're talking more about snowden because he wants to be talked about. >> bill: exactly. and i think the best thing edward snowden could do would be just to shut up. right? i think the best thing we could do is to start focusing on this

nsa program and whether it is something we ought to be doing as a nation. peter, evan, we need a quick update. >> a couple of things out there on twitter. at the egyptian tv building, staff confirmed the military has taken over the tv station there in egypt. only retained essential staff. all of the others have been sent home. a statement from the egyptian president's spokesman says its's better for morsi to die in defense of democracy than be blamed by history. which may end up happening today >> bill: when the military says we're in charge, i think you can trust the military is in charge. >> this is how it starts. >> bill: i don't think morsi is going to last very long. this is democracy egypt style. evan mcmorris santoro, have a

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about our basic rights. our basic freedoms and maybe rededicating ourselves to protecting them starting with the right of privacy which is under attack today by the nsa. where is the outrage over the massive invasion of our privacy by the nsa? have we forgotten how to fight? it sure looks like it. in the true spirit of the 4th of july, i say let's protest the nsa and protect our right of privacy. with that, have a great, long 4th of july weekend everybody!

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