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for the next three hours yeah, we'll slowly make our way back in, bring you up to date on what's happened since we saw you last which was whoa, last wednesday. hope you had a great long 4th of july weekend. we simply did. we welcome you back. we're glad to be back and we've got lots to talk about this morning. lots you're going to want to talk about. news on many fronts. not so much here in our nation's capital. but certainly in egypt where chaos reigns there certainly news out of new york city with eliot spitzer announcing he's getting back into politics. and the koch brothers are still at it, launching a million dollar campaign against obamacare. they're still fighting the fight of two -- was it two or three years ago by now. 1-866-55-press. our toll free number.

if you want to join the conversation we invite your comments, your calls at any time. join the conversation, also get your comments in on twitter at bpshow and on facebook at facebook.com/billpressshow. cyprian bowlding's got the week off but otherwise our team is intact with peter ogborn and dan henning. >> good morning. >> happy monday. >> bill: alichia cruz is here on the phones. monty is filling in as he always does keeping us looking good on current tv on those video cams. so everything good? >> everything's good. >> yes indeed. >> slow weekend. >> bill: we were up at the ocean, the beach in rhode island. the water was absolutely magnificent and the ocean -- in the ocean two or three times a day. did some good lobster good swordfish, good, local lobster.

great time. everything good in the east bay? >> actually, i had a bit of a harrowing experience. my boat broke down. it was not a situation -- my battery died. had to get towed by a friend. so a couple of miles out you about made it in safe and sound. just turned out to be a much longer day than expected. >> bill: did you call the coast guard? >> i did not. bought myself a new battery reworked wiring. >> bill: airlifted? >> no, not airlifted. >> bill: so, the big event of the weekend we know that, this is the only reason we have a 4th of july anymore is for the hot dog eating contest right? >> sure, yeah. of course. >> bill: of course -- >> what a holiday. >> bill: he was back. our hero, the champion hot dog chomper, joey chestnut. 69 hot dogs.

>> 10 minutes. >> bill: in 10 minutes! 69 hot dogs. i had one yesterday at the airport. >> did you? not 69. >> bill: if i had known that was the record, i could have eaten another 69 and beat his record. joey chestnut said what kept him being. >> 69 is a magic number. crowd was pushing me. wouldn't let me slow down. it's awesome. >> bill: what's he do for the rest of the year? >> he does all of these -- >> it is not just hot dogs. >> he does eating competitions. >> bill: that's how he makes money? >> this was a $10,000 prize and the coveted yellow mustard. >> bill: it wasn't just the crowd keeping him going. >> they pushed me a little bit. i had my girlfriend right in front of me yelling at me not letting me slow down. without her, i would have been lazy. she saved me on that. >> behind every successful man

is a woman girlfriend, yelling at him. so i'm glad he owned up to that. >> bill: new definition of true love. coming up, yes eliot spitzer-- joining us today. we can't wait until wednesday this week to talk with eliot spitzer because he's front page "new york times" this morning. we'll tell you about it. acting secretary of labor seth harris will be here in studio to give us his take on the new job numbers and what they mean and we'll be talking to the director of moms demand action for gun sense in america. they're not taking no for an answer. but first... >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> other headlines making news on this monday. saturday in denver, colorado, was likely the biggest day for robert griffin iii since he was drafted by the washington redskins. the star quarterback got married to his long time girlfriend rebecca and she was not the only one in white at the wedding.

rgiii wore an all white tuxedo. several of his redskins teammates served as his groomsmen. a historic moment in new york city over the weekend. the first cross country solar powered flight was completed late saturday night. landed at jfk airport. the solar impulse took off in california back in may. made about seven stops across the country and the final leg was from d.c., took off from dulles saturday morning to new york city. the flight took 18 hours. this airplane only flies 45 miles per hour but it uses no fuel whatsoever. only what it takes in from the sun. the project says this was an amazing step forward for renewable energy. >> bill: i saw video of the plane. it is an amazing machine. a couple of french guys invented it and built it. >> pretty impressive. only 45 miles per hour. >> bill: yeah, i would take a

faster plane up to providence when i fly. >> wimbledon victory belongs to britain again. number 2 andy murray of scotland beat novack djokovic in three long sets. the 26-year-old murray is the first british man to win the tournament since fred perry back in 1936. >> bill: he's the new hero of britain. new rock star over there. >> they love him. >> bill: and we love eliot spitzer. yes, indeed. i gotta tell you i picked up "the new york times" this morning and you know, i was surprised but not surprised and you maybe had the same reaction to read the headline. here it is. seeking forgiveness spitzer will run for city controller. yes, indeed. they spell it the old way in new york.

comptroller. but at any rate, he is back. i was surprised because i didn't know he was going to make the announcement this weekend but not surprised because i always figured that eliot spitzer will get back in the business. will get back into politics which is what he really loves and what he is very good at. now, you know, eliot spitzer is part of our team here. this is like talking about one of our own. there is a certain bias here. but i have to tell you as to the big question, should he run or not, should he be permitted to make a comeback or not should we forgive him and let him step back into public life, abso-freakin' lutely. if anybody deserves to come back if anybody deserves our trust, i believe it is eliot spitzer. first of all don't talk to me about no second acts in american politics. bill clinton is the most popular

man on the planet today and the most -- certainly the most beloved former american president, doing great things today. americans forgive and forget and move on and accept that. look where david vidder is still in the united states senate. look where mark sanford is, back in the united states congress. look where anthony weiner is. he will be the next mayor of new york. it looks like at least he's being taken seriously as a candidate for mayor. so, an be solutely, eliot spitter should have the opportunity to come back and let the people of new york decide. that is all about eliot spitzer said in an interview last night with wabc in new york. and eliot spitzer will be joining us toward the end of this hour this morning. to give us his take on why he's doing this and what he hopes to

accomplish. but he admitted last night the first thing he's asking the people of new york for is forgiveness. >> i hope new yorkers will understand first i'm asking for forgiveness for what road this my resignation but i hope they'll look for the record i had as attorney general as governor as assistant district attorney. >> bill: will all that mess become an issue in this campaign? of course it will. eliot knows that. he thinks he can get beyond it. >> i don't know. i would not be running if i believed i could not win. and i understand it will be an issue the public will look at. >> bill: so what do you think? love your take on this. eliot spitzer come back, yes or no? 1-866-55-press. are we that forgiving? should we be? 1-866-55-press. again, i think absolutely yes. and for a couple of reasons. all right. two reasons. one is because we're a forgiving people and we've been taught

that and we should practice that. but two mainly because he's a very talented guy. he's one of the smartest people i have ever met or worked with. i think he knows politics and knows government better than anybody else that i've ever worked with. and he proved that. he was a dynamite attorney general of new york state. i mean he was the toughest and most effective most efficient. he was a bear going after wall street. we haven't had anybody since. imagine if he had been attorney general of the united states. under barack obama inheriting this mess from wall street. there would be wall street executives behind bars right now. eliot spitzer would not have ignored that. he would not have walked away. he would not have let them get away with what he did. >> you see stories about the wall street executives more and

more as we go through -- they just keep walking. they keep skating with a slap on the wrist at best. >> bill: spitzer got several of them when he was attorney general of new york. he's elected to governor. he never had a chance really to show us what a good job he could do as governor because his term was cut short by his own misdeeds granted. but then he came back, did a good job on cnn. did an excellent job here on current tv. and again showed with his command of the issues that he knows the issues, he knows politics. again, better than anybody i know and i think having him back in any form in public life will be good not only for the people of new york city but good for the people of this country. and who knows. where he goes from here. when he was governor of new york, he was already being talked about as perhaps the first jewish president of the united states.

that's how impressive he was at the time. well despite his misdeeds, he hasn't lost any of that know-how. let's put it to good use. we need people like him i believe in public office. eliot spitzer gets a big two thumbs up from me. 1-866-55-press. how about from you? are you ready to forgive yet again for the good man back in public service. i certainly would rather have him in public service than mark sanford. or david vidder. 1-866-55-press. let's talk about it on the "full court press." >> announcer: connect with the "bill press show" on twitter. follow us at bpshow and tweet using the hashtag watching bp. this is the "bill press show." date, staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own

nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding.

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>> announcer: radio meets fell vision, the "bill press show" now on current tv. >> bill: he's back. well he will come back, i believe eliot spitzer we're talking about. make his political comeback by filing for city comp tropical storm. he has to get 4,000 signatures by thursday. that will be no big deal for him. he can do that. he'll get all of the signatures he needs to get on the ballot. he says he's not going to worry about raising dough because he's just going to pay for it out of his own funds. >> that's one way to do it. >> bill: and forgo the city's public financing availability at any rate. what have we got comments online? >> we're at bpshow on twitter. join the conversation there at

bpshow. ole miss liberal says i think i speak for many when i say where do we send the money? i would support him in whatever he ran for. >> bill: i'm sure we'll find out from eliot spitzer himself about a half hour from now where you can send the check. >> exactly. pbtrue on twitter says he was going after wall street criminals, go, spitzer go! and a lot of other sentences saying hell, yes run run run. >> bill: that's the thing. he was aggressive as attorney general at going after the wall street criminals and as governor. tom is calling from boetscher city. >> yes yes yes. the man is talented and articulate.

that show he had on was a brilliant show. we need more of that on tv. we've got it with current tv, bill press. >> bill: thank you man. thank you. of course, eliot was on cnn with kathleen parker then he came over to current tv. on "viewpoint." and did a great job on "viewpoint." he just stepped down once current tv was sold to al jazeera. otherwise, he would still be there. now maybe we know why he decided to get out so he could pursue and start putting some other plans together. good for him. i agree with you. but you know, as good as he was on tv, he can get more done and be more effective, i believe in public office. which is what he likes. politics is his love. he's damn good at it. talking about eliot spitzer of course announcing he's going to

run for comptroller of the city of new york. lynn is up in buffalo new york. good morning. >> caller: good morning to you. >> bill: hi, what do you think? >> caller: i think he would be fab be louse. i lived in new york city for two years in the early '90s. just the whole way that whole system runs down there with the crazy budget with all of the little hidden lines and nooks and crannies, he would be great to get in there and unravel that boondoggle. i think it would be fabulous. >> bill: i'm sure he will make something of an office that most of us have never heard of before right? >> exactly. i have always admired him. i have great respect for the fact that he's coming back. just coming right out there. you know people will be after him just like they were before because he was -- he figured it out. the whole deal with the default flops and all of that. >> bill: oh yeah. exactly. he was the first guy to jump on

wall street and say hey you guys are up to some games here that are not good for consumers. we'll hold you responsible. lynn, good to hear from you. eliot spitzer coming back. paul is out in perrysburg, ohio. hey, paul, what do you say? >> caller: hey paul, born and raised new yorker. go spitzer. where does he need the signatures and the money? tell me where. put it on your facebook page. when i stop driving my truck, i will sign any petition he needs. i will donate anything the man needs. go spitzer go! have a good one bill. >> bill: paul, good to hear from you. brother trucker here. i'm sure we'll hear from eliot where you can send the help. by the way i think the signatures have to come from new york residents but we'll put the link up on our web site once we talk to eliot a little bit later in the hour. good news! eliot spitzer running for

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city comptroller. do a good job for a couple of years and then you know what? boom. senator or beyond. if he wants to. i think absolutely. it was a -- just, you know, average day in san francisco. beautiful day. beautiful day for flying. maybe not such a beautiful day for landing. fred hayes just happened to be out there with his video cam and his wife standing by his side, filming planes landing at sfo when, oh my god -- >> yeah, he does. look at that one. look how his nose is up in the air. oh, my god. it is an accident. >> oh, you're filming it too. >> oh, my god. >> oh, no! >> oh, my god. >> you're filming it. >> oh my god. oh my god.

>> bill: all i have to say is if i were filming that, my language would be a lot more colorful should i say. i don't think i would be able to play the entire audio here. we did find out it was asiana airlines flight 214 ending an 11 hour flight from seoul, south korea to san francisco sfo. a boeing 777. it was the copilot at the controls with very little experience. 43 hours total flying that big puppy. and it was his first attempt to land at san francisco airport. the head of the national transportation safety board says clearly he screwed up. it was pilot error. he was coming in too slow. >> during the approach, the data indicate that the throttling were at idling and airspeed was

slowed below the target airspeed. >> bill: below the target -- it was coming in too slowly, it lost power. from what you see in the video the tail came down. it didn't have enough lift to make it to the runway. the tail hit the rock wall and fell off and then the plane just like did a big cartwheel. and she said listening to the voice, the recording of the pilot and the copilot, there was no indication that anything was wrong with the plane. >> there is no discussion of any aircraft anomalies or concerns with the approach. >> bill: what's amazing is that they were all able to get out. they've got it down, man. with the escape from a plane

like that. the chutes came down, people were out there. people were walking away before there was even a sign of like fire or smoke on the plane. it ended up with only two people killed. out of what -- 265 or so i think on the plane. two people killed and sadly and tragically, one of them escaped survived the plane crash only to be run over by one of the rescue apparatus or fire trucks. the captain of the san francisco fire department admitted that. >> late in the incident as we had completed most of the fire attack and rescue of the initial victims, it did become obvious to us that one of the victims may have been hit by one of the apparatus on scene. >> bill: so here we go. first crash of a major airline in this country certainly for a long time. and it does raise the question, you know, do you still feel safe

flying? i tell you the answer to me is absolutely. i flew back here yesterday from providence. didn't hesitate to get on a plane. we haven't had a crash of an american carrier in this country since 2001. we're not talking about september 11th but shortly after september 11th, american airlines took off from jfk bound for the caribbean and crashed in queens. that was the last crash of a major american carrier here in this country. looking at some numbers over the weekend, if you look at -- 100 million miles -- excuse me just one second here. comparing fatalities per 100 million passenger miles okay, it is safer to travel by plane than it is to travel by car by taxicab, by bus or by train.

in other words 100 million miles, there are more fatalities from cars, taxis bus or train than there are from commercial jets. it is the safest form of travel today. in fact -- safety engineers tell us we are 70 times more likely to die driving a car. 70 times to die driving a car than flying in a plane. and you know, what's ironic about this is, too you feel safer in a car? >> yeah, you really do. >> bill: you know what i mean. you're in control. you're at the wheel. you're more used to it. you're on the ground, right. feel safer than if you think about it, when you're up at 35,000 feet or 32,000 feet but in fact, you're not. because there are more things that could go wrong. >> if you think about the amount of regulation on air travel and

all -- you know, if you're a driver you don't go through all of the different safety checkoffs before you hit the road whereas every plane does. you know. so if the driver next to you has bad brakes and didn't get enough sleep the night before, you don't know that but if you get on a plane you do know that. they look at that type of stuff. >> bill: it is going to be interesting to see whether this will have any impact. i think originally, everybody says there it is. there it is flying. how dangerous it is. no. and of course, we're talking about this accident because it happened. don't talk about all of the planes that will land safely. some people point out. but i think the lesson out of this is not how dangerous flying is. it is how safe flying is. how safe it has become thanks to a lot of good work in the airline industry. yes, the headline in "the new york times" this morning and the top -- if you look at it, "huffington post" this morning i'm back.

says eliot spitzer. at least i want to come back. i intend to come back. and i'm going to run for controller of the city of new york. what's that all about and why and how's it going to get there? eliot spitzer joins us next here on the "full court press" this monday morning. >> announcer: this is the "full court press." the "bill press show." live on your radio and on current tv.

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>> announcer: heard around the country and seen on current tv this is the "bill press show." >> bill: 14 minutes before the top of the hour on a monday morning, july 8. welcome back from the long 4th of july weekend and hey let's go back in nostalgia land. not so far back. let's go back to 2006. all you good people of new york state will remember this. huh? >> remember new york? the new york that all roads led to. the luminous beacon of hope. that promise of opportunity. the distinctive buzz, hum and churn and drive and shuttered so loudly, you could hear it all the way to l.a. if you don't remember that new york, don't worry. he does. >> bill: he does. americans love a comeback kid. we're the nation of second chances.

we're about to prove it one more time. eliot spitzer ready to throw his hat back in the ring as candidate for city comptroller announced on the front page of "the new york times" this morning. mr. controller, good morning. >> boy, that was a great ad, wasn't if? if only life were quite as easy as the tv commercial. i think president obama probably watches that movie the american president says if fiction and reality could converge, it wouldn't be so bad. >> bill: i'm excited for you and excited for us. i'm not surprised. i'm pleased that you finally made the decision. >> can i make a confession? i usually call and talk to you on tuesday morning. today is monday. >> bill: we didn't want to wait. we've had a lot of calls already this morning. honest to god's truth the first question is where do we send a check. so we've had a lot of people out there all over the country excited about what you're doing.

do you have a web site? >> we started this yesterday. maybe technologically neanderthal of me but no, we don't have a place. frankly, i'm not accepting contributions. what i would love to accept would be the signatures of new york city residents on petitions. that's how mechanically i have to get on the ballot. that's important. >> bill: if we can help in any way, let us know. we'll put a link up on our web site. at some point like any campaign you might be accepting contributions. >> at some point we will. >> bill: we'll put that up. what is this job all about? it sounds like a boring job. >> i'm a boring job kind of guy. the name belies the importance. it is an opportunity not only to participate in the budgeting of the city and as we have discussed over the years, a budget is a moral document. it states your priorities.

where you invest and how you hope for the funeral and where you put your capital to create that future. so yes, it is a very significant role in terms of the budgets of the city of new york. it is also a goal in terms of the pensions not only those who depend on them but ownership of stock. you've heard me say ad nauseam, ownership is better than regulation. we can't regulate or prosecute our way to better management but we own corporate america through our pension funds. these are the real owners of the shareholder. what i want to do is use institutional shareholders. this is governance in a way that makes our -- there is an audit function that goes beyond how many paper clips were delivered. are policies working? if not let's put the money where it does work. >> bill: back to the pensions. you and i the last time we were together discuss that shareholders have a lot of power if they exercise it.

particularly the public pension is huge. >> enormous. if you look at the size of the pension holdings and say doesn't that mean you have proxy powers? you own and control the companies through your ability to vote the proxies that comes with ownership and that institutional ownership voice has been quiet. i was at a conference, an international conference here in new york on corporate governance about two weeks ago now. some of the leading people, roger ferguson, former vice chair of the fed was there. there is acknowledgement our shareholders have not played the role they should. you have the capacity to do that as comptroller. we ask why do ceos get paid so much? shareholders haven't stood up. this is one way to rein in it. >> bill: we were talking about ceo pay last week. you brought up the -- >> i think the study came out every year the study has done, look at the ratio of ceo compensation to average worker

compensation. i think it is 273 to one. it is a little crazy. >> bill: absolutely. >> people should be paid what they're worth but i don't think ceos are worth 271 times the average worker. something has gone wrong with our governance. >> bill: you know getting into this eliot, your past mistakes will come up. the front page, you have seen it already. front page of the "new york post" this morning. >> i've not seen it. the "new york post" is a newspaper? [ laughter ] >> bill: all right. here we hoe again. >> politics is a contact sport. i made significant errors. i stood up, accepted responsibility resigned. it has now been five years. i hope the public will extend its forgiveness to me. the public has forgiven. whether that forgiveness has extended to me, i will ask for it. look what i've done in the intervening five years.

look what my record was as attorney general and governor. i hope the public feels that it can extend its vote to me once again. that's all i can ask for. i hate to repeat the same lines over and over but when i was a prosecutor big cases little cases, i had confidence in the jury. when i was po inn politics, i had confidence in the voters. the public has a sense of judgment. win or lose, i will put my confidence and faith in the public. >> bill: i've got to ask you this as a friend, when you saw anthony weiner coming back, did that help you say hey if he can do it, i can do it, too. >> every case is different. the more important point may be what you said earlier which is this is a land of second chances. >> bill: indeed it is. we are. >> there's a lot of -- there are a lot of cliches on both sides of that one. it is a land of forgiveness. people in their natural goodness

understand the fact that we pay a price and hopefully continue. did not read it carefully but in the times i think they referred to a vignette that happened yesterday. i was sitting in the park mid afternoon, seriously saying are you going to do this? last minute. you always revisit the premise. a woman sat down next to me. had no idea i was thinking about this. said mr. spitzer, said i hope you get back into politics. what you fought for mattered. we all make mistakes. i hate to say that little things like that change one's mind but it was a reaffirmation of what i hope the public will feel. >> bill: amen to that. share that sentiment. absolutely proud of you and excited for you and in any way we can help. let us know as soon as you've got that web site. >> i appreciate it. i'm one of your proud listeners. go get them. >> bill: you're a proud member of our team. eliot spitzer city controller of new york. >> announcer: this is the "bill

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>> who knows. >> bill: some wild vacation somewhere. >> i just saw him lugging a bag out of work when he was leaving to go on vacation and i'm not going to say what was in the bag because of the fcc guidelines. but it looked like it was going to be a wild time. very wild time. >> bill: one of the issues that still is facing this congress, some people have given up on it. but here's one group that has not. moms demand action for gun sense in america. they're not taking no for an answer. representing a lot of moms and dads across this country. want to see some common sense action of gun reform. jennifer is a program director based here in our nation's capital. nice to see you this morning. >> thank you very much for having me. >> bill: glad that you're here. got a big challenge ahead of you. we'll get into that. there is another development on the political front. americans for prosperity, you

know them as the front for the koch brothers, they are out with their latest campaign vowing this morning -- they're going to spend a million dollars in an advertising campaign to try to convince the congress to repeal obamacare. here's what it sounds like. >> two years ago my son began having seizures. the medical care he received meant the world to me. now, i'm paying more attention. i have some questions about obamacare. if we can't pick our own doctor, how do i know my family will get the care they need? and what am i getting in exchange for higher premiums and a smaller paycheck? can i really trust washington with my family's healthcare? >> bill: i wrote a book about that called "the obama hate machine." it continues. the koch brothers, they were unsuccessful in defeating president obama and denying him a second term so now they're putting all of their resources into trying to get rid of his signature legislative

achievement and one that's already helping millions and millions of americans. have proven to be a great program. they won't just give up. you hear that ad, peter and it takes you back to the same debate we were having three years ago. >> it really does. >> bill: give it up. it is the law of the land. move on. and we're hearing some of the same frustration around the issue of guns and we'll get into that with jennifer hoppy in just a second. but first jennifer, dan's got the big headlines. >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> other headlines making news on this monday, a lot of people turned out to the new england patriots no questions asked jersey exchange over the weekend. 1200 people turned in their aaron hernandez jerseys at the official team store at their stadium to get something else free of charge since he's been charged with murder. about 300 of those that were turned in according to the team were youth sizes. >> bill: you mean little kids.

>> mm-hmm. >> bill: i wouldn't want my kid wearing a murderer's jersey. >> alec baldwin wants to interview edward snowden. the actor tells "vanity fair" he's looking into flying to moscow to talk to the nsa leaker for his podcast. he said he's working connections in london that know assange. he's neither a fan nor critic of snowden, he wants to see how the story place out. >> alec baldwin gets thrown off airplanes. he can't even make the flight from here to moscow. >> bill: i thought we heard he was going to lay low. >> who wants to see that? >> another year, another hot dog record for competitive eating champ joey chestnut. he downed 69 hot dogs in ten minutes at the nathan's famous hot dog contest on coney island over the holiday. that's one more than his personal best. he soundly defeated the second place finisher who downed 51 hot

dogs. on the women's side, sonya thomas, known as the black widow won by 3/4 of a hot dog. she downed nearly 37 hot dogs to win the women's competition. >> bill: women have to pick up their game. >> come on, ladies. >> bill: all right. thank you, dan indeed. so jennifer, tell us about moms demand action for gun sense in america. fairly new organization, right? >> actually, founded by a mother in indiana the day after newtown happened on december 14th. december 15th, shan watts woke up and said i've got to find a way to do something about this. what she did was she looked for an organization akin to mothers against drunk driving but related to gun violence. she didn't find one so she started her own. you know, just over six months later, we have over 105,000 facebook fans. we have a very active membership

of nearly 100 chapters across the country. i mean everywhere. in over 40 states as well as the district of columbia. and we are not giving up. we are not taking no for an answer as you said earlier. we want to see common sense gun reform passed. and we're not giving up until we see the legislation through. >> bill: by the way for the rest of you who want to join up and help this cause and moms demand action for gun sense in america, the way to do so is to go online to moms demand action.org right? >> correct. >> bill: moms demand action.org. why is this issue so important to you? do you have kids? >> i'm the mother of a soon to be first grader as well as a 2-year-old. so when the massacre at sandy hook happened, it hit me in the gut like no other event i've

ever experienced. it was like 9-11 for mothers. i felt like i had to do something. i volunteered at my daughter's kindergarten class the following monday and there were 21 children sitting in front of me and two educators and the magnitude of that tragedy was something that i couldn't ignore. i couldn't turn away. and there are hundreds of thousands of mothers just like me. you don't take anything more seriously or to heart than the safety of your children. i feel like when newtown happened, a lot of moms woke up and said that could have been my child. the more i learn about the epidemic of gun violence in the u.s. you know, i've learned that a child or teen is shot and killed every three hours in this country. it is unacceptable. we're going to change that. >> bill: and you must have been frustrated when the moms and dads from newtown came to

washington for some, i believe common sense reform. simple background check for every purchase of every gun and yet this congress met with them, listened to them then voted against them. >> frustrated is a very mild word. i would say appalled, disgusted. it was a travesty. and after that, the media narrative and the common sense voices around the capital seem to say gun reform is dead. mothers are awake to this issue. we're going to be a force in 2014 elections. they're going to learn quickly we're voting on this issue now. >> bill: what are the measures that you are supporting? or would like to see in the congress? >> background checks most

certainly for all gun and ammunition purchases. we would also like to see a ban enacted on assault-style weapons and ammunition magazines that hold more than ten rounds. we want to establish product safety oversight of gun and ammunition and require things like child safe technology. the technology is out there. there is a bill that deals with that technology. that we're supporting. and we want to track the sale of large quantities of ammunition and ban online sales. this goes beyond legislation but encourage corporate responsibility and encourage businesses educational institutions, and other institutions to enact gun safe policies essentially. >> bill: in their workplace? >> in the workplace. yes, for example we are launching a campaign this week actually to call out starbucks. you may not know this but starbucks in areas in states

that allow open carry allow patrons to carry firearms into their stores. they don't allow guns in their corporate headquarters but they allow patrons to carry them into their stores. >> bill: guns in starbucks. >> exactly. in d.c., it is not allowed but cross over into virginia and you be standing next to someone holding a loaded weapon. we don't think that's an appropriate or wise policy. there have been accidental shootings in starbucks. they've banned smoking outside of their stores as well as inside recently. yet they allow guns. we're saying secondhand smoke is dangerous but a secondhand bullet is dangerous too. >> bill: such a weird sense of priorities sometimes in this country. it is moms demand action for gun sense in america. moms demand action.org. jennifer hoppe is the program director. and so how -- what are you

asking people to do? write letters? make up signs protest. >> all of the above. one of the unique things about our organization is we have a lot of -- we started via social media. we're present on social media. our moms go off-line and visit their legislators. we have done things called stroller jams where moms bring their children. i've done this myself to their legislator's offices and you know go en masse with their children and -- >> bill: and the strollers. you can shut traffic down with enough strollers. >> especially with my 2-year-old let me tell ya. we talk to them as moms and we have authority and authenticity as mothers. we're certainly not doing this for prestige or money or anything. our motives are very pure. that resonates with legislators.

this past weekend, we had moms all over the country marching in parades. they made handmade flags with their kids. the theme was declare independence from gun violence. so that end we partnered with mayors against illegal guns and to have an online petition, we got over 85,000 signatures and during this holiday week, remember, holiday week when moms can do anything they wanted to do. we generated more than 1,000 calls to the house and senate. we sent nearly 2,000 e-mails to legislators and we sent thousands of tweets. so we're active and engaged. they're hearing -- the legislators are hearing from us. >> bill: unchain the moms of america. who will see some action on this issue. they won't listen to moms, who will they listen to? >> they might actually find someone they can communicate with in 2-year-olds. sort of have the same tactics of

whining and raises their voices. >> bill: your comments on this program here. a new force in american politics. moms demand action for gun sense in america. give us a call at 1-866-55-press. we'll be back with jennifer hoppe here on the "full court press." >> announcer: chatting with you live at current.com/billpress. this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current tv. >> i'm a slutty bob hope. >> you are. >> the troops love me. the sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. (vo) only on current tv.

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latest jobs report with jim tankersley from "the washington post." we're talking the all-important issue of gun safety with jennifer hoppe in studio with us. program director for moms demand action for gun sense in america. a group formed the day after the massacre up in newtown -- in newtown, connecticut at sandy hook elementary school. and jennifer, here is ruth from up in sandy hook, connecticut. hi ruth, good morning. >> caller: good morning. jennifer, thank you so much. i am the grandmother of a third grader from sandy hook and my daughter is a teacher so i put my granddaughter on the bus in the morning and get her off the bus and that particular morning i took her to school for an early book club.

and had no idea what had gone on until my grandson was at u-conn, called me and told me about the shooting at sandy hook so there isn't a day that goes by that if somebody's talking about this that i don't start tearing up because my granddaughter has most definitely been affected. she was like very close with this little boy daniel barden from around the corner in every aspect of hers and my daughter's life. and mine as well, have been affected. what frightens me and i'm so thrilled to hear you talk about how you were affected as well as so many people are the strong -- the strong money against doing anything about being really sensible like alec and stand-your-ground laws that just get implemented.

people who don't want background checks but aren't afraid of the nsa, you know, having all of this kinds of information. anyway mayors against guns and we like the wild west, jennifer. i don't know how we convince people that whether it's kids in school, in the first grade or people in the cities or like what you said, i had heard about starbucks previously and would not go in there and support them or any other ridiculous -- it is like the -- >> bill: ruth, so good of you to call. i really appreciate your call. i want to interrupt to give jennifer a chance because we're running out of time here. to respond to a lot of the things that ruth said, jennifer. you know, you're carrying on the work that the people of newtown

are doing as well. >> absolutely. ruth, thank you so much for calling. i want to tell you from my heart there are as i said, hundreds of thousands of mothers who are not giving up this fight. we're a completely nonpartisan organization. this isn't a republican issue. it isn't a democratic issue. it is an issue of public safety. it is protecting our children. and so first of all we're not going away. i also want to make the point that ruth brought up that her daughter and granddaughter are victims of gun violence. so this is a problem that has a ripple effect that we need to be concerned about. >> bill: you know that you're up against some very powerful opposition. particularly powerful group and well-funded group with the nra but you know what? you put up the moms of america versus the nra and moms of america with common sense solutions, i'll bet on the moms. thank you for what you're doing jennifer. thanks for coming in today. >> thank you for having me.

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said is doing something about this ridiculous situation today with ceos making so much more money than the average worker in any company in america. >> you know, bill, a study came out, every year the study is done that looks at the ratio of ceo compensation to average worker compensation. i think it is 273 to 1. it is a little crazy. >> bill: absolutely. >> people should be paid what they're worth but i don't think ceos are worth 271 time the average worker. something has gone wrong with our governance. >> bill: i think something is going right with our politics. i'm delighted to see eliot spitzer back. he is, after all certainly knows politics. one of the smartest people i've ever worked with. he was a dynamite attorney general of new york. he was a great governor of new york when he got in trouble. if we had him in office when the

wall street collapse, man there would have been ceos of a lot of the wall street firms would have been marching right into federal prison. with eliot spitzer in charge. and i gotta tell you, it reminds me of jerry brown when he started his political career in california, back in the early '70s, he ran for secretary of state in california. everybody said secretary of state? nobody heard of that office before. who would -- why would anybody run for secretary of state. he turned that into one of the most effective offices of the state. of course, now he's back as governor of california. eliot spitzer will do the same thing with the office of controller. he will make it the most powerful office after mayor or maybe even more than mayor in the city of new york. >> he has big plans for the office. you don't hear people running for the office talk that kind of

talk. >> bill: you never hear about that office, right? >> and the ambition and the big plans he has for that role. >> bill: he told us he wants to be there to be able to work on the budget because that is a policy document. it is a direction of any country or any state or any city or any county is the budget. sort of the policy is set. he wants to work on pensions and on shareholder power. and he wants to work on audits and oversight of agencies. you can just see he thought that through. eliot spitzer delighted that he is going to be doing -- making that step. by the way, a lot of you will want to help him. we do, too. but he does not yet have a web site set up. we'll have a link to the eliot spitzer campaign as soon as we get it from him here on the

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of july break for us and for you. hopefully it was a good one. meanwhile on friday, the jobs numbers came out for the month of june. 195,000 new private sector jobs created for the month of june and unemployment staying at the rate of 7.6%. jim tankersley is economic policy correspondent for "the washington post." has been a guest in studio before to talk about job numbers and joins us again this morning. jim, good to see you. >> my pleasure to be here. >> bill: hope you had a good weekend. >> did i. >> bill: tell us what this 195,000 means. good news or bad news? >> it is good news. 195,000 jobs is a lot compared to what we've been creating before. it is a bit of a ramp up and it puts us on pace if we keep getting numbers like this to get below 7% unemployment, maybe early next year. this would be a good thing. but here comes the caveat. these are not great jobs being created. there's a lot of retail jobs, a

lot of jobs in restaurants and bars that just don't pay that well. and if you look overall at the sort of quality of jobs that we're experiencing in this recovery, it is still not a good middle class job being kicked off by the economy at any kind of a level to help boost incomes across the board or help put a lot of people back to work in living wage jobs. >> bill: you have written that one of the problems here is there are not enough manufacturing jobs. our whole manufacturing sector has declined. is it ever coming back? >> manufacturing employment has had this horrible straight-down slide for a few decades now with a little bit of blips here and there but mostly shedding jobs even as manufacturing production has gone up. basically takes a lot fewer people to make things in this country. however, the start of the recovery, we saw a reverse of that. we added half a million manufacturing jobs. that looks like hey there is this new manufacturing

renaissance. and then now, what we've seen in the last basically since february is a decline again. so it is starting to raise concerns that we're not in the midst of a big employment renaissance. maybe we're just making back a little bit of lost ground from the recession. and this is a big deal for one big reason which is that manufacturing jobs tend to be pretty good jobs. and particularly for the types of people who fill them. they have this wage and benefit premium and there's some argument over how big that is. there still seems to be an advantage to working in manufacturing in terms of quality of jobs. >> bill: there's been a lot of talk about bringing some of the manufacturing jobs back to this country. that is not happening then? >> anecdotally there is some of this reshoring. some companies choosing because of lower energy costs from natural gas drilling or because of supply chain issues to bring some production back here.

what we're not seeing is a huge, wide scale version of that. we're not seeing millions of jobs being pulled back from lower wage, lower cost regions and we're also seeing the continued march of automation of manufacturing jobs. factories work with robots more and more now and so that leaves less room for employment for people. >> bill: that's just a fact. that's not going to change. as you said earlier, you can make more things with fewer people today than ever before, right? >> yes. that will keep being the case. >> bill: paul krugman this morning talking about the jobs numbers says that as you pointed out, good report. certainly not a bad report for june. but he says, given how depressed our economy remains we really should be adding more than 300,000 jobs a month not fewer than 2,000. at this level, we would need more than five years of job growth to get back to the level

of unemployment that prevailed before 2008. >> yeah. >> bill: that's a big ticket, right, to get up from 200,000 to 300,000. how do we get there? >> that's a great question. there are a few things we could do that could start getting us there. the first thing is, i think this is what krugman was writing about this morning was you need d.c. to start paying attention again. it is washington -- washington has stopped caring about the jobs problem. i've written that a few times. there is no urgency to get a jobs bill passed. >> bill: so true. when was the last time you heard anybody on capitol hill talk about jobs? >> there are still 12 million unemployed people in america. just unemployed by the numbers of people who are actually looking for work and can't find it. the number of discouraged people -- workers have gone up. people who left the labor force because they can't find work. there are still of the people who are unemployed, a third of them have been unemployed for more than half a year.

so this is -- this is a crisis. it is an on-going crisis. and the first thing they can do is start treating it like a crisis again. after that, obviously we are seeing some employment effects from federal fiscal policy right now. both from the tax increases of the beginning of the year and from the sequester that's just going to get worse in terms of employment effects. had a huge effect so far but it has had a noticeable effect particularly in the conversion of full time jobs to part-time jobs. we're losing government jobs. we have raised taxes on people across the board if you include the payroll tax. those things drag on growth. and if you started with that and then you started again getting down, you know, democrats and republicans and saying if we -- we need to figure out how to solve the jobs problem because if we don't, we're consigning millions of workers to

potentially, drastic consequences of long-term and or possibly permanent unemployment. >> bill: one of the ways clearly that we're not going to get there is austerity right? continuing to cut cut cut particularly federal spending meaning government jobs is not going to get our employment numbers back up. >> there doesn't appear to be any evidence right now. that cutting spending has increased job creation on the private sector side which was the big predictions before. if you look at uncertainty which is the big thing so many people talk about with fiscal policy, the uncertainty over it and whether we have some certainty there is an index that sanford and the university of chicago compile. it has gone -- it has plummeted. uncertainty is way down. we have a lot of certainty in the economy because we fixed tax rates at a fixed level foo for the foreseeable future and a lot of things are off the table. and that's not -- doesn't appear to be doing it either.

so these ideas -- government's cutting its spending and certainty being created coming together to create huge job creation, have not been the case yet. >> bill: so what is the answer? another stimulus? the stimulus did create jobs, correct? >> yeah, the stimulus created jobs. prevented jobs from being lost. but yeah. i think that clearly in washington right now you're not going to get another stimulus package. you look at the things on the table that might spark more economic activity, i think that first and foremost, you look at an immigration bill that brings in a lot of high-skilled immigrants right away. who start creating companies and creating jobs. that seems to be big bipartisan agreement and i know that there are some economists on either side who disagree with that. there is a broad consensus that if you bring in a lot of really smart, highly-skilled people,

they will start creating jobs. of the things on the table right now in washington, that's a good place to go. but you need a lot more than that. what's on the table in washington may not be enough. because you need serious concerted action. you may need to try a little something of everyone's and again, start treating this like they did after the depression and say hey, this is a crisis. we have to do whatever we can to solve it. >> bill: first step, we said a couple of times here, this is our number one priority. right? which, at one time, john boehner said at one time, barack obama said and i'm sure others have said you may not believe it but we don't seem to get that sustained attention to this issue. have we reached -- your calls welcome. we'll get to them in a second at 1-866-55-press. have we reached a point where we have to accept that -- i don't

know 5%, 6% unemployment is the best we can hope and maybe even some percent. that's where it's going to be in this country from now on? >> 5% would be fine. that tends to be what economists call the natural rate of unemployment. there are always people leaving and finding new jobs and 5% has been the generally accepted level for that. 6% is the level that many economists start to worry we're getting to. we're bumping that up permanently. 7 would be really bad. 6 is not great. 7 would be really bad. you start to look more like europe and this more ossified labor markets. particularly trying to crack into that as a young person that, gets really hard. we don't want millions of people permanently off the working rolls or out of the work force. that reduces the amount of growth we can have, too. >> bill: i wanted to ask you

earlier, when you said that these jobs are not great jobs, 195,000 jobs, do we have any idea any data on what their average salary is? >> so there is -- the labor of department tracks average wage data. i think it is about $24 an hour is the average wage across the economy right now. that ticked up by 10 cents an hour this month. it is up about 2% on the year which is about keeping pace with unnation. maybe a little bit more. so those are all averages. it doesn't tell what you the new jobs look like but what that says to me is people -- people are getting -- working people are getting ahead in this economy. it is just by a little bit. most people, even if you have a job, you haven't had a raise in a long time that's making more than -- to help you cover the increased cost of your rent check. >> bill: sean is calling from pittsburgh. good morning. >> caller: good morning. i want to talk about the jobs

numbers and democrats. >> bill: yes. >> caller: democrats, you should have thought about this in 2010 when you ran away. when lsa we said it and president obama and vice president biden told you to go vote, you didn't do it. now, we're paying a heavy price. because he asked you for more help in congress. congress even ran away from it. now, 40% of unions, i live in a union town, ran away from this president. i'm sitting in pennsylvania where rendell's company is working for my governor, taking everything private and no democrat is saying a word. >> bill: all right. you make a good point shawn thank you. i think it is true. a lot of democrats didn't vote in 2010 and they're paying for it right now. it is also true in 2010, i remember when the republicans were running -- said give us control of the house.

we're going to make jobs our number one priority. i don't want to put all of the blame on them. but it has not been the number one priority. >> they passed in the first year in power they passed a lot of jobs bills that died in the senate. and then what they cast as jobs bills, all sorts of things. the second year, they did the same thing. this year, they've soft given up the house and senate, have given up the pretense. sort of given up the pretense of even trying to pass placeholder jobs bills. maybe because they don't see any ability to compromise and maybe because the pressure is off. >> bill: and maybe because they're so busy repealing obamacare, voting to repeal obamacare. >> in both chambers, they have a lot of other priorities right now. >> bill: jim tankersley, thank you for all of your good work. follow jim at washingtonpost.com. i'll tell you what the president and vice president are up to today when we come back. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right? >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio and on current tv. this is the "bill press show." >> bill: president obama just announced he will make an announcement this morning on his management agenda. boy, kind of mysterious. what's that all about? sounds to me like some kind of a shake-up in his staff at the white house. we'll find out i guess. that's 11:50 this morning in the state dining room. good morning everybody. welcome, welcome to the "full

court press" here on monday, july 8. great to see you today. thank you for joining us here as we come to you live from our nation's capital and our studio on capitol hill bringing you the news of the day. and giving. >> chance to weigh in yourself and tell us what it all means to you. 1-866-55-press is how you do so by phone. you can join us on twitter at bpshow and on facebook at facebook.com/billpressshow. join almost the entire team here this morning. cyprian bowlding's got the week off. peter ogborn and dan henning here as always. >> hey hey hey. >> bill: alichia cruz had her time off too. she's back on the phones. monty has got the cameras covered here for us on current tv. while cyprian's out this week. egypt, egypt is the big story of the day. trying to find out a what's going on there and b what the

united states can do or should do, if anything, about it. will dobson is our go-to guy for foreign affairs. he's the foreign affairs editor for slate and in studio with us again this morning. good to see you. >> thanks for having me back. >> bill: welcome back to your 4th of july break too. how about it. before we get there big political news this morning. that's very personal to us because it is a member of our team. he's part of the show every wednesday morning. has been for quite awhile. and cohost with me -- should i say a colleague of mine on current tv hosting his own show "viewpoint," we're talking about former new york governor eliot spitzer. he's announced this morning he's going to run for comptroller of the city of new york. to make his political comeback. and the steps of bill clinton and mark sanford, anthony weiner and others, we're a nation of

second chances so why not. eliot spitzer. i asked him this morning a little earlier on the program whether his past transgressions will, you know, become an issue if he thinks it will be a big issue in this campaign. the "new york post" this morning reminding him that it will be starting out their headline this morning is here we ho again. here's what eliot said in response to that. >> look, politics is a contact sport. i made significant errors. i stood up, accepted responsibility resigned. it has been five years. i hope the public will extend its forgiveness to me. the public is forgiven whr. that forgiveness is extended to me is a separate question. i will ask for it. i will say look what i've done in the intervening five years. look what my record was as attorney general and governor and i hope the public feels that it can extend its vote to me once again.

>> bill: you know, i think the people of new york will. people love a comeback kid you know? we are a nation of second chances. just look around. so i think he's got a good shot. the other thing when people remember him they remember did he a damn good job as attorney general of new york. >> i think it's great. i think this whole era of europeans telling us that our politics are too puritanical is now over. you can finally say look, we're as cool as the french. it is all okay. >> bill: we can play around as much as you. get away with it. here we go. lots to talk about and let's find out what's happening in egypt. but first dan with the big headlines. >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> a check of other headlines making news. neil diamond performed at the annual capitol 4th concert where he debuted a new song. before he sang sweet caroline, i

sang they'll never take us down. all proceeds are going to the one fund boston and the wounded warrior project. he told thrill newspaper he loves the -- "the hill" newspaper that shows the freedom and spirit that being an american affords them. >> bill: you weren't in town. will, were you in town? >> i was in town. >> bill: 4th of july? >> i did not go down and fight the crowds for the 4th. >> i watched it on tv. >> i watched some of it on tv. >> it was not sequestered. i thought they did a great job. there was a lot of people. i watched the whole thing on pbs. >> bill: i was at the beach on rhode island. we had fireworks on the 4th of july and the 5th of july and the 6th of july. >> what's up with that? >> bill: different towns different places. just amazing. >> we had our own in our neighborhood. i had a big display of illegal

fireworks. ten fingers. i'm good. >> bill: i checked first thing when i came in this morning. >> alec baldwin wants to play journalist. he wants to interview edward snowden. he tells "vanity fair" magazine he's look to hop on a flight to moscow soon and talk to the nsa leaker there in the airport for his podcast. he says he's working connections in london and makes it clear he's neither a fan nor a critic of snowden. he wants to see how the story plays out. >> bill: this is a guy who last week said i'm going underground here because i screwed up with my twitter account. you won't hear from me again for awhile. how long did that last? >> a majority of parents say they do not want their child to go into politics as a career. according to a new gallup poll. 64% of americans want their child to avoid pursuing a career in politics while 31% do. they would be okay with it. the highest that percentage has

ever been, parents wanting their kids to go into politics was only 36%. now it is -- that was back in the 1960s. >> willie nelson song "mama don't let your kids grow up to be" press flaks. >> bill: who is in charge in egypt today? >> the military is in charge. >> bill: no doubt about it. >> the military's in charge. now, they're not doing a good job but they're in charge. you know, this is in many ways, a return to the prearab spring reality of egypt. if you were to look at egypt for most of the last say 40 years it has been a military-dominated state. the military is the only institution in egypt that works. actually functions. when things have to get built, it is the military's construction crews that go in to build them. if you go on a vacation to egypt later this year, not only will the prices be low but also the

tourism package you will buy will likely be bought by a military-owned company. they bottle the water. they pave the roads. you name it. so they have their hands in everything. and what they ideally wanted to see happen in what most of us sort of imagine was going to be a democratic transition, they wanted to see someone come in and allow them to maintain their perks and privileges and be the front man run the show. they don't want to govern. but they got everything they wanted for the most part. this is important point. they had a military budget that no one could look at. they had -- they protected their right to prosecute civilians. this was a perfect scenario for them with the muslim brotherhood in charge. morsi failed. like the grownup in the room, the military came back and said okay, we're taking the keys back. we'll find someone else. >> bill: something seems wrong with this picture in terms of we celebrate the fact that egypt is a democratic process.

they elect a new president and then a year later they say well we really don't like this guy. so let's just throw him out and have the military take over again. this is not the way democracy works. >> no and it is not good for egypt. it would have been much better if in a few months they could have had elections which they were going to have and he would have lost. they would maintain the sanctity of the ballot box. that's such an important step. you have to have that transition of power and now they don't have it so the last year is not. they have accomplished nothing. >> bill: so they appoint an interim president. at least they did that. you have this figure head there. he says i know how to get -- it is so funny because the day before this happened, my wife said to me, it is too bad they didn't make alberra day -- are they going to make him the new president? i said oh, that's a good idea. he would be widely received around the world right? well received.

but so -- no, they already named somebody else. but then i read they'll make him the prime minister. apparently he wanted to. >> of course. >> bill: then the military said oh, no, you can't. >> that's right. he would have satisfied the most sort of hard core secularists of egypt, the youth to a large degree. they don't love him entirely. they believe he's not strong enough but the problem for him is he's better known in washington than he is in cairo. the reality is that he has an incredible profile around the world but in egypt many egyptians don't know the man. he does not have the ties to the street that many other candidates would which is what's always sort of capped his ability to take advantage of the events and be a leader for egypt. as you see the bungling though, nevertheless. >> bill: "the new york times" reports this morning that the force behind the military preventing his naming him was

the alnaur which is now sort of in power right? >> allen had nour, they're the true ultra conservatives. all of the things you were worried about are true of allen had n -- of al-nour. they have a swing vote here. they didn't do that well in the elections. that's why you didn't have an alnour candidate win the presidency. but it matters because you're trying to create a coalition and they could say no, no, no, you're not going to go to this guy who is so secular someone like alberdi. they put a stop on alberdi. >> bill: did we help topple morsi, the united states? >> it's hard to say.

there's no question that -- and we know this. we know that the military and washington were talking. >> bill: we also know obama called morsi. to tell him -- >> what the united states wanted, the united states would have preferred to have -- would have preferred to have morsi get through the end of the term and lose that way. they wanted to maintain the democratic legitimacy of the process such as it is. but at the end of the day the military, well, i mean, all of those -- all of the generals are on speed dial in washington. not only do we know them. we helped raise them. they came to our schools. they came -- they take trips to washington. on an annual basis. so we're very comfortable with the military there but i think washington i think the obama administration is farsighted enough to realize, you know, it is only going to be a matter of time and probably not much and as we see now this morning probably now, the people will then begin to turn on the military itself. the military is highly

suboptimal. when it fell apart it fell apart. >> bill: i read one account where the military -- they had talked to susan rice, i think. and susan said tell morsi he's got to like -- some aide -- tell morsi he has to do this. morsi said no, i'm not going to do this. you have an hour left. he said no. they called back. then basically said okay, he's going to go. >> our influence wasn't with morsi. it was with the military to say please give him more time to come to his senses. please put together a deal. morsi, look, for the last year, one thing for morsi is his unwillingness to compromise. he has been stubborn and idealistic. that has led to one botched policy after another. >> bill: how much money do we give egypt? >> about a billion and a half.

>> bill: why continue that? >> that's what john mccain is talking about. you could argue that on the one hand, you could argue what did you get for your money? what you got is you do know the people who are running egypt right now. you do know the generals. >> bill: we know mubarak too. >> to some degree, the military mattered as well. mubarak was a former general. the political -- the top political apparatus of egypt was military too. the military is the backbone of this regime through and through. and you're able to have the conversations, trying to keep things on the rails up until the moment that they go off. you can't help the fact that morsi won't cut a deal. you can't help the fact the military isn't running -- >> bill: are there any strings on our foreign assistance to egypt? can they have coup after coup after coup and we just keep propping them up? >> at the end of the day this

is egypt. we're the united states. we have influence on the margins. it is not satisfying but at the same time, you know, we have more influence there than anyone else. you could say that now that money matters more than ever given that the fact they've gone to the insteady waters. we want to try to keep this from descending into chaos. you know, you could quickly say you know your influence is on the margins. you're not going to get clear results, the way you want them. this is going to be solved by egyptians or not at all. >> bill: will dobson is editor for "slate" magazine. he's here in studio with us. want to talk about the muslim brotherhood say they're just not going to accept this. it is a lot of violence with a significant loss of life in cairo this morning. 1-866-55-press. your comments and questions for will dobson about egypt. we'll be right back. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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>> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: 26 minutes after the hour. we'll talk -- be talking jobs and economy with the acting secretary of labor, the honorable seth harris in studio with us. in the next half hour. right now we're talking egypt. what has happened, what it all means and where we go from here. with will dobson. politics and foreign policy editor for "slate" magazine. peter? >> simply put on twitter by kpaca says military rule and political islam can't coexist in a young democracy as egypt. the two are toxic mix that will create more problems. you can find us at bpshow on twitter. >> bill: you can find will at slate.com is it? slate.com or on twitter at william j. dobson.

the muslim brotherhood they say this was nothing short of a military coup. and they were asked yesterday whether okay, now that morsi is gone, so what's your plan b? here's a spokesperson for the muslim brotherhood. >> there's no plan b. stick by the principles. we either return the president back to his rightful place or just have to shoot us in the streets. >> bill: they're saying no, we don't accept this. >> hear of martyrs for democracy. i mean this is -- this is a problem that the military finds itself is that muslim brothers are new to being at that level of politics in egypt but they're not you new to politics in egypt. they have weathered mubarak and persecution for decades and decades. they participated in politics even mubarak. it was back in 2006 when 88 of

their members were elected to the parliament which was a water shed moment in egypt and frightened the hell out of the bush administration because they realized if we push for democracy too much, we might end up with problems. these guys aren't new to this way of life. they will hunker down and they will -- they will fight to the last man. there are many. >> bill: so what you're saying is we haven't seen the end of this -- >> not remotely. i think you really have to believe when they say they will turn out in the streets and they will continue to fight. so this is going to be a long, drawn-out process to say the least. >> bill: wow. all right. well, will dobson, we understand it a hell of a lot better since you came in today. thank you so much for coming in. >> thank you. >> bill: we'll come back and talk jobs here on the "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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vacationing that 195,000 new private sector jobs created in the month of june, acting secretary of labor seth meyers in studio with us -- seth meyers is that other guy on "saturday night live." >> he gets a slightly bigger paycheck. >> love your work. >> bill: yeah. day job. night job. seth layer is here to tell us -- seth harris here to tell us what it all means. good news on the job front? >> pretty good news report. i don't want to pop the champagne corks but 202,000 private sector jobs. unemployment rate stayed flat but that was because 600,000 people over the course of the last two months have joined the labor market. many of them rejoining after having been unemployed for a long period of time. giving up hope and now they have hope again they'll be able to find a job. so good news generally but we could be growing at a much faster rate.

>> bill: i had seen 195,000. >> 195,000 overall in the economy. 202,000 in the private sector. that's 40 consecutive months of private sector job growth. >> bill: 40 consecutive months. paul krugman points out this morning that even at 200,000 it's not enough. that we've got to be like above 300,000 to get the unemployment rate down where it was before the crash of 2008. do you agree with that number? and what can we do to get there? >> well, i don't want to pick a particular number but no question about it. if we create a larger number of jobs, we'll bring the unemployment rate down much more quickly. at this rate it will take us probably until the end of president obama's term to get down to what anybody would call full employment. what can we do about it? the government can be a catalyst of creating jobs in the economy.

the president has proposed a strategy that would solve our long-term deficit problems but continue investing in the creation of middle class jobs, continue investing in skills training so they can succeed in the jobs and also to help communities to create a skills infrastructure so they can bring jobs overseas here. i've visited charlotte north carolina where they've done that with seamens local community college has done a terrific job to create a training program to attract jobs to the united states but this log jam that we have in washington right now and the sequester that we have in place this across the board budget cuts killing middle class jobs programs across the government just makes no sense. it is slowing down the economy. it cut economic growth in the first quarter in half. it is really hurting us. so if we can turn around the sequester and continue investing in middle class jobs, we can bring the jobs numbers up substantially. >> bill: wheel we're creating new jobs, we're losing jobs in

the public sector. >> that's right. we lost another 7,000 jobs in government this month. this time, it was the federal government that was losing jobs. that's partly a consequence of the sequester. we're seeing many more federal government employees being furloughed. a story in today's times about defense department employees. >> bill: huge number. >> they'll lose one in five days of pay basically every week until the end of the fiscal year. that's going to hurt our economy very badly. that's money out of the pockets of families who would spend it in their local grocery store local gas station. it will slow the economy down. in the first quarter, it cut our economic growth in half. it doesn't make sense. if you're trying to get your car to get faster, you don't slam on the brake. >> bill: where are the 195,000 new jobs, what sectors? >> it was spread -- >> it was spread pretty widely across the economy. we had a lot of growth in the leisure and hospitality industries restaurants grew a good bit. we also saw growth in higher wage jobs in the professional

and business sector. accounting jobs, computer services jobs, administrative jobs and offices. construction industry grew a little bit. we would like to see that number up a good bit. those are good, solid middle class jobs. unfortunately, manufacturing was flat. we want to see that number increase further. we've added 500,000 manufacturing jobs over the last couple of years. you would like to see that number grow even faster because those are excellent middle class jobs. >> bill: are these -- you use the word middle class. that's what i was getting at. i don't know whether you're the bureau of labor statistics show the average salary or income of these jobs. are they middle class upper middle class? >> this month, this was actually a very good sign. we saw a real weekly earnings, weekly earnings go up for the first time in awhile. 10 cents in june up 50 cents over the course of the last year. again, nothing to pop a champagne cork about. you couldn't afford champagne on

that. a money but it is more money in worker's pockets. that's a very good sign because that helps our economy to grow. 70% of the economy is built on consumer spending so if workers have more money their families do better. but their local small businesses also do better and that helps the economy overall. >> bill: what's it all mean? secretary of labor here in studio with us. your questions your comments welcome at 1-866-55-press. what -- you know, we were talking earlier about this with jim tankersley from "the washington post." just our conversation on jobs and how we stimulate the economy to create more jobs is a conversation that you don't hear a lot about in washington these days. what happened to jobs as the number one priority? >> yeah, i wonder about that every day. as the member of the cabinet who

is most -- supposed to be most focused. >> bill: you have a cabinet meeting later today. >> we're meeting with the president later on this morning talking about the 21st century management. >> bill: i hope you won't be late for your meeting. >> no. as i told you last time, i really like this job. i will show up on time when the boss gets there. >> bill: if you're a little late, tell him i was on the "bill press show." >> i think i better show up on time. [ laughter ] >> bill: this focus. frankely, i don't hear it from -- certainly don't hear it from republicans on the hill. i don't hear it from many democrats on the hill. >> i'll tell you where we're hearing the jobs debate in the debate over comprehensive reform. we don't talk enough about that as a jobs bill. the congressional budget office put out a report last week that said that if we pass comprehensive immigration reform, the economy will grow at an additional 3.3% over the next decade. we'll have an additional 3.5 first growth in jobs.

>> bill: why is that? >> first of all we'll create a lot more taxpayers. we have a lot of undocumented immigrants in the united states right now working but not paying taxes. they're not paying into the social security trust fund or the medicare trust fund. they're for the paying income taxes. that will help us. but also we're going to bring into the united states and keep in the united states a lot of very talented, high-skilled, foreign-born ph.d.s and master's degree candidates in stem fields, science technology, engineering and math. they drive the economy. a quarter of all new businesses created by immigrants, a quarter of all new high tech start-ups created by immigrants. 40% of the fortune 500 was founded by immigrants or the children of immigrants. so immigrants are an important part of innovation in the united states. so they will help to create jobs. they will help to get the economy moving forward. so the cbo analysis showed it will bring the budget down and we'll create jobs.

so comprehensive immigration reform is a jobs bill so i'm hoping that the house of representatives is going to follow the senate's lead. pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill. will get a bipartisan bill out of both houses and get it to the president and sign it. that will help the economy. >> bill: we certainly don't hear much talk about the immigration -- comprehensive immigration reform as a jobs bill. but what you said is curious. i want to be careful here. when i think of maybe -- coming from california, when i think of immigration reform and the jobs that come with it, i'm thinking about pretty low level jobs and low-paying jobs, you know. seasonal workers picking crops or working in restaurants working in carwashes working changing linen in hotel rooms. you're saying that some part of that labor force is well-educated, highly-skilled labor force that is much more ready to actually start their

own businesses and put people to work. >> absolutely right. the immigration debate i think gets too focused on the undocumented population whereas you do tend to find a large number of people working in lower wage -- >> bill: we depend on them. i don't mean to put them down. >> absolutely. here's what's happening in that part of the economy that's hurting the economy overall and hurting jobs. there are some employers who hire undocumenteds in order to be able to drive down their wages, drive down their working conditions. latino workers in the u.s. face much less safe and much less healthy workplaces than other workers. so as a consequence of that, employers who hire undocumented get an unfair competitive advantage over employers who are following the rules and hiring u.s. workers and u.s. workers also lose out because they're facing an unfair competitive advantage. what this bill will do is require everyone to play by the same set of rules everyone will

have to get at least the minimum wage. they'll all have to get overtime. we will be able to enforce the law, undocumenteds who are on a path to citizenship and earned path to citizenship will feel they can come to the government because they're not at risk of being deported. they'll be able to complain and assure that everyone plays by the same set of rules. >> bill: here we go, new jobs numbers are out. immigration reform, comprehensive immigration reform as a jobs bill. we're talking with the acting secretary of labor seth harris here on the "full court press." he's in studio ready to take your calls and your comments and suggestions at 1-866-55-press. we'll be right back. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show."

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under americans for prosperity to try to convince congress yet again to repeal obamacare and one of the arguments that the republicans are making is this is going to cost us jobs, right? and this is an anti-job program. what's the truth about it? >> that's completely untrue. first of all, it is remarkable how much money time and effort has been spent on trying to repeal a bill that has helped eight in ten americans. they're getting -- americans are now getting preventive care for the first time. you can't discriminate against women. you can't discriminate on the basis of pre-existing conditions. the department of health and human services put out a report a couple of weeks ago that showed that just last year, consumers got $3.9 billion back in premium savings almost $500 million in rebates because of obamacare. so it is kind of hard to see what's bad about this bill. so the argument now is -- >> bill: but more of it is going to be kicking in 2014, not

all of it, unfortunately. some has been delayed now. the new exchanges at the state level which will enable people to buy in. so we haven't even seen the best of obamacare yet. >> that's right. eight in ten americans have already benefited. millions more will benefit as soon as the health insurance marketplaces kick in. if your viewers and listeners would like to learn more, go to healthcare.gov to find out how to sign up for obamacare to get their health insurance. they can get at apples to apples comparisons of different health insurance plans. >> bill: healthcare.gov. >> this argument that somehow obamacare is interfering with job growth. we don't see any evidence of that in the numbers. so we're not seeing a disproportionate growth in part-time growth. the argument is employers will drive down hours. they'll employ people with lower hours so they don't have to count them for coverage.

the overwhelming majority of jobs created during the economic recovery have been full-time jobs. we're not seeing disproportionate growth in the temporary help industry. we have seen manpower and kelly services, they are growing. they're doing very well right now. that's usual a precursor to further job growth but it is not out of line with what we've seen in past recoveries. what we have seen actually, there was an increase in the most recent report in a group called working part-time for economic reasons but actually, a large percentage of those folks are federal employees who are being furloughed. it is not obamacare. it is the sequester that's causing the number to go up. so no evidence that obamacare is getting in the way of job growth but a lot of evidence that it's putting money in people's pockets and making their healthcare better. >> bill: how about growth in the health sector? as more people come in, more people have healthcare. health insurance. more people can go to clinics hospitals, seems to me it has to create a demand for more

healthcare workers. >> the healthcare industry has grown. its employment-based significantly throughout the economic recovery, actually during the recession it grew as well. the most recent report, the biggest growth in the healthcare industry was in the lowest cost part of the industry ambulatory care services rather than people going into hospitals, they're doing more outpatient healthcare. that's a sign people are looking to save money. if they get into the health insurance marketplace and they can buy insurance in the individual market, they'll be able to afford the full complement of healthcare. that will be because of president obama's healthcare law. >> bill: mr. secretary, we just had a call during the break from the white house they said you know we have to let you go. [ laughter ] you've got a little meeting coming up in the cabinet. >> it is nice they care. nice they're watching and nice they care that i be there. >> bill: indeed. give the president our best. thank you for starting off your day here. good work on the jobs numbers. we look forward to talking to

you again, if not before at least a month from now about the latest. >> thanks, bill. >> bill: acting secretary of labor, seth harris. you can follow him on twitter at acting sec harris. i'll be back with today's parting shot. >> announcer: go mobile with bill press. download podcast and listen any time. anywhere. this is the "bill press show." compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

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