who said georgey? we need to see real. >> mark: "viewpoint" next. >> john: thank you, turks. so i finally saw man of steel.this weekend and it was the most preposterous sci-fi film ever. an alien who comes to earth and actually thinks he can make a living at print media. but where we get our news from may surprise you. and telling people who obamacare exactly what they want to hear. and eliot spitzer is running for new york city's comptroller which means that this job is mine finally all mine for six more weeks. and we discuss his chances.

today is the birth of nelson rockefeller angelica houston and beck. and 19 years ago today kim jong-il assumed supreme leadership, and he passed it down to his kim son. >> john: i'm young john fugelsang. some journalists covered the story. some journalists become part of the story they cover and then there are the journalists who cover so many bases they become a story themselves in could i crowcairo,egypt, we saw that at work.

two news networks covering the story have found themselves unexpectedly becoming part of it. reporters forralgia gera was thrown out al-jazeera staffers were arrested and released an egypt's apparently army seized power. al-jazeera has been seen as a strong supporter of muslim brotherhood. and the third part of my equation, no one is a bigger story than our first guess sole dvd dad o'brien is an emmy award journalist who has reported an

anchored shows for cnn msnbc and nbc news, and ceo of starfish media. and she's a cnn contributor executive producer and moderator of "national geographic"s" "geography bee." is that all. >> more coming. >> john: great to see you back on tv. >> thank you. >> john: you created a very unique role for yourself, something that is unprecedented amongst most broadcast journalists. you've diversified so effectively. you're reporting sports, and now contributing to al-jazeera america. why did you choose that path? was it important for you to be your own boss. >> i think it could be a new model. one, i got to the point where i only wanted to do what i wanted to do. there are stories i didn't want to cover. when you anchor you cover a whole range of things. there were things that i was

particularly good at, and stories i wanted to tell, and then there was a list i wasn't interested in doing. maybe there was a way to run a company, and just do the projects you're interested in. i'm not sure three years ago ago--we've been in the works in this company for two years i'm not sure three years ago this was doable, but now you have other players in the marketplace. if you have good enough brand and strong enough background that you can go to people who are not necessarily looking for people to only work for one company, saying listen, this is what we want you to do for us. that's the deal we struck, and we have a couple more to announce soon. >> john: really? >> yes. >> john: you said you were interested in covering thoughtful stories, stories that were unreported elsewhere, and what kind of stories are we talking about show-biz dating? >> just the kardashians. i think we're going to continue the black-american and

latino-american franchise. they did really well. i think you can dig in deeper on stories that people are interested in, but news networks don't go back and doing. for al-jazeera we'll be looking at haiti what's working and what's not. we haven't gone back to say where is the money? how much money got back to haiti, a lot of it did not. what are they doing with the money in haiti americans gave lifealot of money. >> i was performing stand up for the troops, and by then, many were networks were gone. >> it's very intense and you have to move on to the next story, but i love new orleans. i went to new orleans for the first time when i was covering hurricane katrina, and i

continue to go back because i love that story. i want to be there. i'm rooting for the people in new orleans to recover fully. i enjoy going back to haiti every single year, and i'm really interested in what is good and not good in terms of recovery. >> john: indeed, it's devastating. i'm grateful you're doing there. people have no idea a what's really happening. is there a different kind of story you would do for cnn as opposed what you would do for al-jazeera america? >> what we've agreed to, for cnn we're doing documentaries. for al-jazeera our piece also run eight minutes. the average nightly news pizza is 1:30. for cnn we'll take a look at a documentary which requires a a lot of storytelling over a long period of time and for people to root for. for my perspective it's length of time.

>> john: the specials that you've done for cnn have been exquisite and hard hitting. you may be unique position to report on race. correct me if i'm wrong you're part african-american, part latino, part irish no temper issues. >> none. >> john: were you destined to cover race having grown up straddling these different worlds? >> it never felt like it. i always felt a little bit like a freak. in 2008 when--even before the president, then senator was running for office, we started to do a documentary about where are we now. the assassination of dr. king, and where are we as black americans today. then he entered the race, and it changed the whole dynamic of looking at black america look at stories of success stories of failure, and what was happening. i always enjoyed covering race.

i think you can push hard on topics. you can hold people with the accountable. you can bring your own insights. one that was about biracial, to see these girls struggle with identity. my mother would say never let anybody tell you you're not black. don't let anybody tell you you're not latino. i said crazy lady, what is that about? but these girls were torn by their identity. >> john: having a biracial president has made it easier? >> no, oh my gosh, we're covering the trayvon martin trials that is underway right now. the paula dean comments. think about all the things about race that are in the news all the time. >> john: of course, but i mean in terms of being a biracial young person. the media does not sell them as

biracial. >> i consider myself african-american but i'm technically biracial. i think president is such an exalted title that it's hard for people to identify on a day day-to-day movement. to get past this race it's not true. we're not going to run out of stories on black-america and black latino america. >> john: in cry row, two of the networks you're involved with, cnn and al-jazeera have become part of the story that they did not intend. and there are great risks for journalist who is are perceived of taking sides in such a contentious conflict where people are being hurt and killed. is there a danger in the audience not knowing who to believe and trust. >> there is always a danger, and the reason why is because it matters.

cnn was being challenged by the crowd when he said it was a coup. well, it matters. if it's defined as a coup that brings certain things with it. it's not just a random word that he used loosely. it matters. it matters if reporters are biased towards the muslim brotherhood or not. that's really a relevant which. then you're dealing with a crowd at a time when people are angry squared, and there could be a massacre. it's very dangerous for the journalists there. >> john: how much do you decide how much to let the audience know where your personal opinion lie in the story. i admireed you when you worked with cnn how you could be impartial and yet you could find the truth. >> my strategy was i'm going to call you on your b.s. >> john: that's the bias that matters. >> that's what i do.

please, if i feel like you're lying to me, i really politically do not care, but i will go after you. that was much more interesting to me. interviews with black americans and latinos, same thing. i'm going to push back on things that i think are lies in this conversation. that to me was much more important. but i opened an black america one being biracial with i'm biracial. this is an interesting conversation for me. and i got to tell you a very different experience than i had. let me introduce you to a couple of women blah-blah. i don't mind sharing things with the audience. i feel like sometimes you have to. >> john: i felt that in the campaign last year. i felt that your reporting was uncommonly sharp and precise on a morning news program. i'm bias because i was on that show, but i felt that you were laser focused on the questions that you ask. you got a lot of press for the

tough questioning you gave politicians of both parties. does that make you nervous when you have a conservative blog saying you were tough on johnson or. >> you know what is ironic, we were very tough on ron johnson and then he would let me ride in the back of his vehicle that they were carting him around. >> john: this is not screened. this is from wilhoml 71. is there future for news or has

tabloid run out. >> my issue with jodi arias was the four children where they would just do a little block where they were clearly naked. just a little block. i don't want my kids to see that. it's so is a so salacious. there is nothing important here for the audience to dig into. i think it can. i look at some of the stories that we've done that have done very well. our documentaries about race and racism, latino and america they've done--we did a doc about women at ground zero, women who were rescue workers who felt their stories were written out of history. and we did a documentary about a mosque that was trying to expand, and this is the backlash that they were getting. those did really well. people were interested in the debate and it had been done in an engaging and thoughtful way.

they were interested. in social media you can bring more people in because they know what's going on, and they want to be part of the conversation. >> john: is the commercial the reality that keeps the lights on that allows the serious reporting? >> i'm not that's true. i don't know if someone would tell me--i don't think there are some incredibly massive rating for jodi arias. i think it did perfectly fine, and there was nothing else, so everyone was covering it. >> john: the gallup poll said that current affairs where 55% of american adults. >> that used to be 100. percent. >> i would have thought it would have been lower. >> people are doing both. very few people only get their information from twitter or from some type of social media but a

lot are. if you talk to someone 18, 19, i roll out of bed and the first thing i do is check my twitter feed to see what people are talking about. i may not watch a news program first thing in the morning. but sometimes i do turn on the tv. that's how we're used to getting our news but i think you're going to see a decline in that. i think you're going to see all of these tech companies are no media companies google, amazon yahoo.com they have massive companies and they're looking for smart content. >> john: tell me about geography bee. >> there is nothing better than a smart 12-year-old who can talk his or her way around amazing places. i sat in it when alex

trebek retired. i'm hoping with "national geographic" we get to go on a mission, go to antarctica and do a story now since i'm the executive producer, i think that would be exciting. >> john: it's great to talk to you. i wanted you on this show since i took over. i begged and begged. i miss new the morning and it's a pleasure to have you here. >> thank you. >> john: and for this moment i get my etch-a-sketch moment. soledad o'brien america's primetime america tonight. look for that among her reporting and moderating roles, thank you for oh joining me on "viewpoint." >> thank you for having me. >> john: the plot to kill obamacare.

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>> john: welcome back. it's being called the opening of 2014. this new anti-obamacare ad began airing today courtesy of the americans for prosperity benefactors, the koch brothers. it's smart pull at the heart springs featuring a young mom with a sick kid raising dubious claims about the affordable care act. >> i had questions about obamacare. if we can't pick our own doctor how do i know that my family will get the care we need, and what am i getting for higher premiums and a smaller paycheck. i think we deserve answers. >> john: if your insurance company raises your premiums be ready to blame president obama and not your insurance. let's bring in our friends the great michael tomasky welcome back to "viewpoint." >> always a pleasure. >> john: great to have you.

michael, you wrote a great piece about this ad. while misleading there is nothing in the law that says you can't choose your own doctor, and underscores the fact that many americans are unfamiliar with the main aspects of this law. whose fault is that? >> gee is that really obama's fault? the administration's fault? misinformation campaigns are rife and the fact that a lie can get way halfway around the world before i can even get my pants on, that can be true. they put out counter ads that are also reasonably effective. but when you have an attractive blond woman looking sincerely into a camera with a sick child saying things like that, people are going to believe it. >> john: i heard the facts but i

heard sad piano music, obama must be a bad man. they'll focus on this how eliminates lifetime caps on health conversation. >> before obamacare health insurance companies could put lifetime caps. and zoe was halfway through her cap before her first birthday. >> obama ended lifetime caps. >> john: it's dueling white moms with adorable children. do you think they're going to be able to fight back against the koch brother's money and convince people that this law is a good thing in their lives? >> it's going to be hard, but the trench warfare in this fight is going to be over anecdotes like this and who tugs at the heartstrings more effectively. the woman in the pro obamacare tracy lynn, she spoke at the democratic convention in 2012 in charlotte. i happened to be in the hall when she spoke.

she was unbelievably powerful. i thought from the moment i heard her, i thought boy they got to see if they can get her in a commercial, campaign commercial this year, which they did not i don't believe. but somebody at osa is on the balance, and got her to make this, what i think is a very effective ad. she was a very impressive person live. >> john: they're both quite effective. we're tracking where snowden is going to go, looking out for egypt and what is happening with the irs is this going to be the ads, aimed mostly at women. >> yes to have so many doubts about the healthcare reform that they can't vote democratic or at least won't go to the polls. i think this might be the very well the biggest issue of the campaign. i don't think the republicans

have much else. >> john: exactly. >> the economy is getting better. the irs is turning out to be kind of a fizzle as a scandal. benghazi isn't going anywhere. we haven't heard much about that. i don't know what they'll be able to say about immigration the republicans if they kill the immigration bill in the house, they'll want to avoid that issue. what will they have? you run down the list of what they have, this is all they have. this is what they'll try to build their campaign around, scaring people about obamacare. >> john: they just lost trying to scare people about obama i care, and this comes on the heels of the administration saying they're going to delay that part of the law until 2015. how important is this development to the midterm elections, and why do you think the president made this decision? >> well, he may have made the

decision partly for election reasons. it may have been made because they realized this is a lot more complicated and going to be more complicated than they thought it was. the employer mandate piece of it i don't want to get too bogged down in the wonky details, but there was a big debate at the time and how it might have been structured, and how it might be beneficial to structure it in a different ways. we don't have time to go through all the details but we have to admit that the implementation of this law is going to be messy and it's going to be very hard, and it is going to require there is no getting around this, it is going to require people who have not purchased insurance before to purchase it, and it's going to take a chunk out of their after-tax income. there is just no way getting around that. certain other cable networks are going to be able to find a lot of people like that out there in

the country who are going to complain. >> john: yes they'll complain about the healthcare that was implemented by republicans and implemented in massachusetts. they're not going to impeach him, are they just going to kamikaze his legacy? >> i think to some extent, yes they are. they don't have much else. they tried to kamikaze everything they could and they haven't done much. they haven't succeeded very much. they have harmed and slowed the recovery. i've written that many times. but still we do have a recovery, however. obama does have a number of legislative accomplishment. he did kilo sam bin laden. we haven't had any terrorist attacks. assuming that holds for the next three and a half years on the

mainland, it's just going to burn them. it will eat at them that he leaves office with a solid legacy and a decent approval rating, and being liked by the american people. they're just going to do whatever they can to knock that down. obamacare is the bestave. >> john: michael tomasky. thank you for joining us on the show. up next we're going to visit wyoming for a frackin' good time. stick around.

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>> john: the former host of the program you're currently watching is getting back into politics. eliot spitzer is running for new york city comptroller five years after he resigned as the state's governor when from a tabloid conference of prostitution. anthony weiner was forced from

office and mark sanford that hopeless romantic is in congress after being seen. let's go to our panel, basil smikle democratic strategist, and rick unga, forbes.com contributor and tina dupuy a political consultant, all who are smarter than i. what do you think. >> very much under the radar. very well liked. remains to be seen what kind of impression he has made in the outer boroughs. but eliot has name recognition and for comptroller, i think they would support him. >> with the lower names on the

ballot, name recognition is key so yeah. >> john: mr. unga. >> ungar ungar. >> i'm going to be contrary. people forget before the scandal broke, he was truly disliked. as governor. he wasn't doing so bad in the outlying areas but people hated him in the city. >> john: he was respected in many quarters for taking on wall street asfer rochely as ferociously as he did and i would be saying that even if i didn't have his name on my mug. but they talk about how they drove him from office. they used the patriotic act what they tried to do to bill clinton, that's what they did. >> it won't be the scandal that

will be his problem. >> you've seen the impression on going after wall street. if we think that wall street has changed a little bit so hassleout, toohaseliot, too. >> i don't think he would be bad at the job. >> john: now the governor is coming back from a prostitution scandal, much like david vitter. bazzzelle,basil, you're a former adviser in the 24/7 news cycle, are we going to be numb to scandals? or does it have to be money. >> i think substance matters most, then money. but i do believe we're becoming desensitized. people are putting everything about themselves, pictures of going back to weiner, pictures

of their body, it's all over facebook and twitter, we are a little desensitized to it but when you talk about voters in new york they want substance more than anything else. they'll get past the scandals in a week or two, and start talking about issues. but the reality is we're a bit desensitized. that's unfortunate but it's the truth. >> john: they want toughness in new york and both mr. spitzer and weiner fits that bill. >> i don't think the winier story has to do with sex. there is sex involved. i think he was a man who was isolateed in congress. he had few friends. then he went on television with his final couple of friends in the media to lie his butt off. >> john: indeed. >> then he really had no friends, and no one wanted to talk to him. that's the bigger story here. it had very little to do with his weird twitter thing, which was bizarre and the fact that he mate breitbart, he elevated breitbart by this scandal.

there are so many different things. i think it's a misnomer to call this a sex scandal what weiner did. a politician politician imploding on himself. >> john: we talk about applications getting second chances, and there are politicians who got away with it david vitter. john ensign got out of office when he chose to leave office. >> here's what is different about john edwards. i think scandals are so overrated when it comes to figuring out if people will run again for office. scandals are all about the joys of tabloids. if you think that a candidate is going to put money in your pocket and you're going to vote for him. except for john edward. it's not that he cheated on his wife. it's that he cheated on his wife while she was dying. that you cannot come from. >> plus he misused funds. >> john: if you're a

republican-- >> there were sex tapes and so many more things. >> john: would republicans forgive gay sex scandals, talking about foley or our friend in minnesota craig. >> we don't know. we have to see if either of them chose to run again. they've never put it to the test, so we really don't know. but we do know that mark sanford was re-elected. there is only one thing worse than a republican who cheats, and that's a democrat. >> john: i realize that. i just like to say republican gay sex scandal. it's time to check out the day's media question. could a female run after a sex scandal. and the answer is no. helen chen witt, but deena, is there really a double standard? could a high profile family politician recover from a sex scandal like so many of these men are able to?

>> we don't have enough data to answer that. we might be able to answer that in a couple of years when there are more female leaders. >> helen chenoweth had no problem getting reelected. if. she's going to put money in my pocket. >> john: yes, and i think people circle the wagons. don't go with a so my guests can post instagram of their junk. we'll be right back. compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of& marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

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>> john: welcome back to "viewpoint." arrest as basil smikle said, i need two cameras. we found out today. [ laughing ] we found out today that rick perry is capable of ending some things in his third term like his governorship. he announced that he won't run for another term as texas governor, will he be a force to reckon in the presidential campaign of 2016? what does this mean for the g.o.p. in texas. there is a third question, but i can't recall it, let's let's go to our panel for their take. basil smikle, and tina dupuy and rick ungar, what is next for rick perry. i'm thrilled to have him run for president gain. he had the smartest pre-campaign that we've seen in history. will he fund fundraise or will he go off and join a think tank.

>> the non-thinking think tank. >> yeah, i think he'll taste the waters for the next couple of years. he'll see if there is money to be raised. rick perry ran for all the anticipation in that campaign cycle, if you remember the g.o.p. was waiting for rick perry to come in, and then he fell flat. i had never seen someone fall so flat so quickly. he has so much ground to make up to get his name back from the expectation of 2012. >> has he not been doing it? these abortion wars in texas are solidifying his base. and this bring your business to texas, it was showing i'm a good governor for business. >> that's the thing. if case we perfect he was too liberal for the republicans in in 2012. >> he didn't hate mexicans. >> he didn't kill enough prisoners. he was too friendly with

immigrants. he has had to double down and cow tokowtow to the right wing. >> here's what we know about rick perry. he can put together a good campaign as you suggest. he cannot be a good candidate. there is a big difference there. i assure you he will not be working at a think tank. >> john: maybe he has the new pharmacists since the last campaign. we are three years away, and a recent poll of texans show they strongly preferred ted cruz for president. a partial listing of responses. rick perry placed seventh after the very popular someone else not sure. i mean take a look at this. how damaging was rick perry's perry's 2012 presidential run? i could be wrong about this. >> it was terribly damaging. overmedicated, over liquid, over

whatever, he was a horrible candidate. he can put together a campaign. he can get money but he can't be a good candidate. there is no getting around it. >> john: tina, the fact that he has announced he's not going to run for a fourth term in texas is this good news for wendy davis. >> i think this is a great narrative story in the media. it's a fantastic story that we can all talk about but i don't think there is anything behind it. i would love that to be true, but i just don't see it. this is a state that could be blue in the next decade or so, and this could be the first time we see it. >> yes she's not corey booker. corey can attract a lot of funds nationally and use that as a stepping stone. senator davis had that phenomenal opportunity the

filibuster, she could use that, she could use that as a stepping stone, but we don't know what the views in texas are we don't knowknow how texans feel about her. >> she's been terrific the last couple of weeks but you cannot become the first democratic governor of texas on one issue. >> especially when you're a national celebrity and a lot of voters may hate you for that. >> john: liz cheney, the daughter of former vice president dick cheney is planning a run for wyoming senator. the problem is dad's friend, mike enzi doesn't want to lose his job. are we headed to a showdown. >> everything about this story upsets me. the fact that she just moved to wyoming last year. >> after her stint in new york. >> but her dad never lived in wyoming. he had just moved there. the fact that wyoming has more

senators than congress people. everything about this story makes you not like the senate, and really have to relive what you--what we all should be embarrassed by the bush-cheney years. >> she'll never beat mike enzi in a primary. you don't challenge uncle mike, particularly when the man has never cast a vote you can disagree with. >> is her father giving her terrible advice, i'm sure she wouldn't have done this and made this i am i am petulant imii ami am petulant claim claim{^l"^^}. >> she's no hillary clinton. she's not the celebrity that hillary was to be able to topple an incumbent. >> john: but anyone who can go on fox news and say we were not attacked by terrorists during

bush's term and come back, that shows mojo. >> it's an excuse to get her on national television. even if she doesn't this is her her, she's on sunday shows. >> john: i think she'll be kept busy. >> let's go back to czechoslovakia. >> john: don't go away. we'll talk about religious fundamentalism in all its forms right after this. young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.

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to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> john: we hear a lot about dog whistle politics used against president obama. well last week fox news nation's website turned the dog whistle to a wolf call. obama-backed muslim brotherhood president. overthrown egypt. obama was the democratically elected president of the

country. but our extremely conservative religious folks really don't like their extreme conservative religious folks over there. they like their fundamentalists as long as it's us, and not them. they demand a separation of mosque and state over there. we have our own christian brotherhood, only they're not very christian and a lot of them don't like brothers. but it's hard to compare the right wing america to right wing of the middle east because they have a lot of in common. they claim they're on god's side and it makes it difficult for everyone else on planet earth. they all hate each other and they don't care how how many of us get killed in their cross fires. there are five little things that unite all these different

fundamentalists no matter the religion. number one, the gay thing. no matter what you're faced christian jewish, muslim, hindu, the more people eight gay people, god can't stand gays but can't stop creating them and needs to you clean up his mess. the more conservative your faith is no matter what your religion is, this is what you have in common. number two the woman-hating thing. women in religious sects the ultra orthodox of many faiths never run out of reasons why women are not quite as good as men. if you fall the bible women are cursed can't speak in temple. when they have a child they're unclean for twice as long, and they have childbirth was eve was suckered by a snake, and no knob no job. the more conservative you are in

religion the more you get to look down on other religions as inferior. if you believe your religion alone is your one true devotion, then you believe you speak for god. and you're not going to sit down and speak with an infidel never mind you're not going to worship the same god, some people think you're going to hell because your parents put you in the wrong fan club. they all believe they smite because got smite. and they believe they have a get out of hell free card. and the fifth trait of every fundy, the endless sex hang ups. men enjoying sex, women enjoying sex, animals enjoying sex in the

christian faith jesus not too many sex hangups but st. paul, the p.r. guy, a lot of them. and if god hated sex he would have found a boring for pro creation. there are many differences in world religious. the greatest thing that religious fundamentalist, they don't think they're better than you. they think god thinks they're better than you. basil where can we find you. on basil on twitter facebook and www.basilsmikle www.basilsmikleassociates.com. >> and tina dupuy. >> they can go to my website at tina dupuy.com. >> rick had to leave.

it's a pleasure to have you here. six more weeks. god night, mom. >> joy: tonight on say anything, eliot spitzer said he's running for new york city comptroller. now that he has thrown his black socks in the ring, can we forgive client number nine. and jane, it's plastic surgery, no one walks in and says give me the joslyn face. and alec baldwin is in trouble again this time for threatening a reporter on twitter. alec, if you're watching, your brother steve is the crazy one. not you. all that tonight.