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igor and clinton yates, and "huffington post" jen bendery all coming in studio today. so thank you for tuning in. the situation in florida has now spread nationwide, the trayvon martin george zimmerman verdict is in. george zimmerman walks. he gets his gun back and america is not happy. protests around the nation from washington, d.c., baltimore, san francisco, and in oakland and in l.a. there was some violence overnight. the mayor of los angeles coming out and commending those who were able to have a peaceful protest and condemning those who made it violent. anderson cooper scored an interview with one of the

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tv, and cnn has a juror from the george zimmerman trial, and then it wrapped into the home run derby. >> love the home run derby. >> i used to but now it is so tortured, and they have to have this whole build up, and they drag it out so long now, and not to mention would i become supreme leader of all of humanity, i will put chris berman in a rocket and send him to the noon, never to return. i hate him so bad. and it starts out with chris berman and he is out in center field giving the announcement. and it is hot in new york. and he is outside. and he is not a small man. and he is on the broadcast for like ten seconds and he is

dripping wet with sweat. he is having a look at the card in his hand, and coming up is pitbull. like pitbull is hard to memorize. and so they get into the home run derby, where they slow pitch baseballs and the biggest hitters in baseball try to knock them out of the park. so it's chris berman and they bring in other people to sit in with him all during the thing. because they have eight different players, and they sort of going on a rotation so they bring up chris davis during the orioles orioles, and he is trying to talk about how his season is going -- >> crush davis. >> and he is like it's a nice season, and then out of nowhere as these betters are taking

swings berman is sitting next to him just screaming his trademark line so you have chris davis going well it's nice -- and then you have berman going blah blah blah blah blah blah blah! out of nowhere. it's the most distracting horrible thing to watch on tv. i was watching with my eight year old. and he goes what is he doing? my eight year old kid is going why does he keep yelling? listen, how -- yeah -- this is hot it ended by the way. this is berman. >> a bomb back back back back, gone! he has won the home run derby. >> aside from all of that he is the guy who won the home run derby. >> yeah, it was good. >> plenty of other berman

clips -- >> back! back! back! >> it drives me crazy. >> back! back! back! >> it makes me crazy. >> and he wants to keep the play-by-play going, i suppose. you can watch it on mute though. >> i turned it way down and started talking to my kid about what was going on because it is so distracting. 12 minutes past the hour. that's my rant on the chris berman hundred derby. >> announcer: this is the "full court press" -- >> some overhead lines making news -- >>back! back! back! back! >> "the view" has announced a new co-host, jenny mccarthy will

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boston red sox have the best record. detroit, oakland atlanta arizona are all division leaders, and other teams with great chances of making the playoffs include our own washington nationals, cincinnati, pittsburgh philadelphia baltimore tam pa bay, texas, and maybe the yankees. >> how hard must it be to be a red sox fan. >> well, how hard is it to be a national's fan? >> the nationals sucked. and then they got really good. and now they are okay. i think they will make the playoffs. >> yeah. >> and then it's a whole new season. >> uh-huh. >> all right. so we talked a lot yesterday about the tragedy in florida, the travesty of justice where

george zimmerman was found not guilty. not even of manslaughter, nothing, nothing at all. and, you know, we just sort of talked about where we go from here. i mean the jury has spoken as it currently sits in florida, as the law stands that's it. george zimmerman is a free man. he gets his gun back if that doesn't terrify you, and he goes on with his life, and that's it. the justice department confirmed yesterday that they are going to look at the case. it doesn't mean that they are necessarily going to bring charges or anything like that, but they are going to look at it and see if there is anything that they can do. i'm with bill i don't think just because a jury of six people from florida find you not guilty that that means you innocent. so i'm curious to see where that will be go but one thing that

really opened the door into how the jury operated during the trial. the -- one of the jurors saturday down with anderson cooper last night. they didn't give her name or show her face. they had her in the dark on the set. and you could just see her arm, basically. and she had a lot to say about where the jury was on george zimmerman and his innocents. she first started off and -- the understatement of the trial, juror b37 juror b37 says that george zimmerman was only guilty of maybe bad judgment. >> do you think he is guilty of something? >> i think he is guilty of not using good judgment. when he was in the car and he called 911 he shouldn't have gotten out of that car, but the 911 operator also when he was

talking to him, kind of egged him on. i don't know what their policy is, but i think he should have said stay in your car, not can you see where he has gone? >> so maybe it wasn't murder as they were going for. and i'm not sure that it was necessarily murder. i'm not saying that it wasn't but it wasn't -- possibly wasn't something he thought out and planned out and acted with malice. that was the big thing. there wasn't any malice. okay. but even if he practiced bad judgment and got out of the car with a gun, that's not to be manslaughter, right? as far as i could tell but as the juror says zimmerman just had his heart in the right place. >> he went above and beyond what he really should have done but

i think his heart was in the right place. it just went terribly wrong. >> see that's what really bothers me out of what she said. of all of the things that the juror said last night on anderson cooper that one bothers me the most, because if zimmerman's heart was really in the right place, i don't know that he would have called 911 and said these f-ing punks always get away with it. he wouldn't have called trayvon martin an f-ing coon. if his heart was in the right place he would have drove by trayvon martin because it was raining, and said, hey, do you need a ride somewhere? it's raining out? or can i help you with something? instead of getting out with a

gun, and assuming this child was up to no good. that to me shows a disconnect on the level of the jury -- or on the part of the jury. how do you say his heart was in the right place. he called him names and assumed he was a criminal and went after him with a gun. how is your heart in the right place? okay. so he wants to protect his neighborhood. is that what they mean? well, leave it to the police. juror b37 went on and talked about one of the things that factored into the decision is that trayvon martin was straddling george zimmerman beating him. >> what made you think it was george zimmerman's voice? >> because of the evidence that he was the one who had gotten beaten. >> so because he had cuts and abrasions, he was the one getting hit and calling for help.

>> well, the witnesses of john good saw trayvon on top george not necessarily hitting him because it was too dark. he could tell it was george zimmerman on the bottom. >> i don't care. it doesn't matter to me if trayvon martin was beating the crap out of george zimmerman. that to me doesn't phase me one bit. he was being followed by a man with a gun and an agenda. i would hope that he would fight. i would hope that if it's dark out and it's raining and i'm being followed by a creep, and he gets out and says hey, son, what are you doing here? hey, boy, what are you doing here? yeah, yeah, i might be a little agitated. i want to play this final clip. this is george zimmerman's attorney mark o'mara.

he says george zimmerman isn't hiding because he is scared. >> he is in hiding and i think he is going to have to stay there -- i don't know if he ever walks the street again not wondering what the person coming at him is having angry like in some of the tweets we are seeing. >> yeah, you get to feel the fear and anxiety that a lot of african american kids in america feel today because of what you kid george zimmerman. twenty-one minutes past the hour. i want to hear what you have to say about this 866-55-press 48 866-557-7377. where do we go from here? i can't do this without your help. 866-55-press let's talk about it. >> announcer: follow us at

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♪ >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> 866-55-press is our phone number 866-557-7377. also taking your comments all throughout the show at bpshow on twitter, at bpshow. jessica says a living trayvon might get some legal recourse by telling his side of the story, unfortunately a dead trayvon gets nothing, and that's where we are now. cross hugger says i have always

told my children if a person follows them to run, and trayvon did just that. and margaret coalvan on the juror says oh my god, her heart was in the right place. he had no remorse. that's comments from twitter. let's go to the phones chris in chicago, illinois, listening. thanks for calling, chris. >> caller: i was just going to say his heart was not in the right place, but trayvon martin was -- was looking like a gangster, acting like a gangster, and got treated like a gangster. that's how the kids are nowadays. they want to look like that and act like that how do they expect to get treated? >> are you saying he was asking for it? >> caller: no, he did not deserve to die. that is definitely not true. and zimmerman was definitely in

the wrong, but with these kids they all want to be -- >> look, man. black? >> caller: no. >> he didn't have his pants hanging around his ankles. he had a hoodie on. >> caller: a hoodie okay -- >> i hear a hoodie. i'm a white mid-30s father of two. i wear a hoodie all the time. >> caller: but look at his pictures on facebook with the grill, and the way he was putting up the gang signs. >> yeah, this is what the problem is they put a dead child on trial for murder. maybe he did smoke some pot, so he wore a hoodie. he did nothing wrong the night he got shot and killed. he was walking home from getting snacks. you are an idiot.

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you are the only guest that reliably comes in on time every week. >> that's why i'm asking for the drum roll. >> which by the way we have a good relationship with the center for american progress and he puts all of them to shame. >> i guilt them every day. >> we had in tamara yesterday, and igor comes in every tuesday at 6:00 a.m. that's impressive. thank you for being here. you can follow igor at igor volsky always good stuff from him all throughout the day, and check him out at think progress.org. we're still realing from the not guilty verdict in the george zimmerman case. but the question i have is where do we go from here? and you look at protests that

have been mobilizing, and the verdict came in so late on saturday night, that not a lot of mobilization but yesterday there were protests in new york city baltimore, los angeles oakland, they turned violent. so that's where we are, where do we go from here with this? >> yeah, it's tremendous the outpouring all across the country. stunning images of people of all race coming together calling for justice, just so outraged about this verdict and a lot of criticism for president obama; that, you know, a lot of people in the black community kind of felt like they had to give him a pass for the first term that he didn't talk about raceish in america, and address the race tensions, when it comes to

african american arrest rates and so on and so forth, but many feel that now he is in his second term, he should have a national dialogue about these discussions, and take this as an opportunity to talk about some of the disparities, how they can be addressed, how the system can be improved, so we can move past this. >> yeah, i don't think this is just going to go away. >> no. >> and a comment i saw several times on twitter when the verdict was announced in the days with have seen after are from african-americans who say, what am i supposed to tell my children? >> yeah. >> that to me is like a dagger. because that's something i'll never know. and this won't be the first time i'll tell this story, we had

jamal simmons in and he said that every african american male has a story, where they were profiled or stopped or given grief because they were somewhere where it was perceived that they shouldn't be. >> yeah. i mean, just -- just the other day i was going a white house briefing about health care implementation, and one of the reporters who was there, was african american and the rest of us were white it was a group of maybe six people, and he was telling us this story about how he ordered an uber car, the service that taxis people around d.c., and he was dressed in a suit and going to the white house. and the driver literally sped by him. i mean he couldn't even get his uber cab. just things like that every day that african-americans have to deal with. and what do african american

parents tell their children? the most heart breaking comments i heard on that was on harris perry on sunday when she said that when she was pregnant with her daughter she said when she has ore sonogram she prayed it wasn't a boy because she knew the difficulty he would face. and it was shocking to her that she lived in a country that made her wish her sons away. >> that's horrible. we're going to talk to clinton yates who wrote a great piece about a place rich with african american culture, and he spent the night that the verdict came

out on u street. we're going to take your calls at 866-55-press 866-557-7377. we have phil in denver, colorado. phil, thanks for calling in. >> caller: good morning. you just had a great example of what is driving me crazy. this guy that called in that said baggy pants is a reason to get harassed by somebody. even the juror is saying that trayvon is partly at fault because he could have walked away. i didn't pay a whole lot of attention to the trial, but i did hear the audiotape where george zimmerman the defendant in his own voice and words says, oh, geez he is running away. he ran. he did the right thing, and this guy hunted him down and killed him. >> yeah. yeah. that's a good point, phil. thanks for the call.

thinkprogress.org has a really really smart piece about how the justice system is rigged against black men, and just really sobering statistics on this. a black male born in 2001 has a 32% chance of spending some portion of his life in prison. >> yeah. and that's why you ask, what do black parents tell their children about the system about this is why the president has to address these issues. >> that's what i wanted to talk to you about. will the president address this? how will he address this and what can he say? >> well, he had a speech about race and culture during the whole jeremiah wright situation in 2008 and we know from the way he operates that he's not -- he's a guy who is a

consensus builder, who thinks that the best way to bring about change is incrementally and through agreement and bringing all parties together and in many ways has been successful. we have the affordable care act. marriage equality is spreading through the nation, because he incrementally came out for marriage, and his thinking there was if i do it too soon i'll cut the effort short, the natural evolution short. so maybe that is his thinking here. i haven't seen any signs that he'll give any big speech or address, his statement after the verdict was fairly tame, i would say, just calling for respect for the justice system, by i commend him for, but i think as our first african american president he can and should say more. and i think if these protests continue, if you continue seeing this kind of interest in the

public, if there are cases that are similar to this popping up because a lot of people are saying, is this going to give kind of a green pass to people to -- to police their communities in a similar way -- that maybe he will have to address this. he won't be able to avoid it. >> yeah. really good piece, with racial rolls reversed these three cases would have gone the other way. tell us about melissa alexander. >> the question is would it be different if george zimmerman was black and trayvon martin was white. and in the case that you mentioned where the woman was involved with a domestic dispute with her husband, she fired a warning shot into the ceiling, was prosecuted by the same

prosecutor who did this case used stand your ground as her defense, george zimmerman didn't, she did, and was sentenced to 20 years in prison and that's just one of many examples where the racial -- the racial roles are reversed and you have a very different outcome. now of course every case is different -- >> sure, sure, i get that. i totally get that. >> but it just says a little something about how race still matters. >> yeah. i mean same law -- stand your ground law. you have one guy shoots and kills another unarmed, innocent child, and you have one african american woman who shoots a wall while in the middle of a domestic abuse case, and goes to jail for 20 years. >> just i think an aside in the stand your ground law, zimmerman didn't use it as his defense. however, as we found out from

the juror last night, and from the jury instruction, stand your ground is part of self-defense in the court of law. you can't get around it. >> yeah. let's take one quick call and then go to break. mark in chicago, thanks for calling. >> caller: thanks bill thanks to your staff to taking my call. i really feel the prosecution dropped the ball here. aside from trayvon martin wearing the clothes that he was wearing for goodness sake this is something that seems so premeditated to me. you know he was alone. there was a phone call. i didn't hear anything about witnesses. this seemed like something -- people are very pattern like. trayvon martin goes to get a snack and goes back home. it's like how do i go to the store? i go to the store pretty much

the same way every day. and zimmerman somehow having this self-defense thing. i mean he stalked this kid. i mean i feel like the prosecution really dropped the ball on this, because -- i don't -- i don't think anything actually goes out and -- and does something like this without having some sort of thought behind it, and i feel very sorry for trayvon martin and his family, and i feel sorry for the american people, because this is a very big injustice as far as i'm concerned. >> yeah. >> caller: and i think the good thing here is i really think the prosecution didn't really dig very deep on this. you know, i just -- i just found this very disheartening in general. >> yeah, yeah. thank you for the call, mrashgark. i couldn't agree with you more on a lot of those issues. whether it was premeditated to

me isn't really relevant. it kind of doesn't matter. when you have someone who acts like george zimmerman did, some punishment should be involved. >> given his history of calling the police 40 times and all for black man. and apparently that jury didn't believe that history, and that's really shocking. >> yeah. a lot of other stories that "think progress" is covering. we'll cover them with igor volsky managing editor on the "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪

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>> announcer: heard around the country and seen on current tv this is the "bill press show." >> it is the "bill press show," the "full court press," live on current tv, and on your radio, coast-to-coast, thank you for tuning in. i appreciate it. i am peter ogburn sitting in today, talking to igor volsky the manage editor from "think progress" at thinkprogress.org and on twitter, at igor volsky. make it your home page thinkprogress.org. we're going to move on from trayvon martin for just a moment. i want to talk about the filibuster. harry reid seems serious this time around. >> yeah, he is not kidding around. he has worked on this issue for sometime. he is really prepared for it. yesterday he was at the center for american progress to talk about the filibuster, and he said, look, if you don't want me to reform the rules to allow

these executive nominees to go through with the majority vote then just give them a vote. it's that easy. >> and that's all -- he -- he is saying here, is give them a vote. >> give them a vote. they have been waiting for months, these people. and really, this is how i see it. it's really a bigger picture. it's not just about senate rules. it's about priorities. these nominees the consumer protections agency, the national relations board, this is somebody protecting consumers, protecting americans from business overreach. >> and i'm glad you mentioned that. harry reid talked about that specifically yesterday. >> the focal point has been the last few months on all of these people on the secretary of labor, and two nlrb folks. do you think there is something in that message to the american people? >> that's right. this is -- this is why they don't want to give them a vote

because this is their way to -- to tip the balance yet again in favor of corporations and big business by holding these nominees hostage because they wouldn't be able to do it through regular order, so they are trying to do it through the nomination process, and this morning that might very well change once reid goes nuclear as they say -- >> nuclear. >> nuclear. oh, god, throw back. >> sorry. >> yeah. and says we have give these seven folks a vote with a majority. >> i don't understand -- what is the other option? so the gop gets to start electing these officials? is that what they want? >> oh, i suppose. the other thing that really gets me is the republicans -- their argument is, well this is a slippery slope, if you do this to executive nominees, what is going to stop you from doing it

from judicial nominees -- well look. the slippery slope doesn't have to be slippery if congress people don't make it so. you have agencies. you can prevent things from going down the slope if you want. you are the ones in power, so if you are just going to do this it doesn't mean you have to go further, you can prevent that from happening, so stop saying slippery slope if you are the ones that are going to make it slippery. so frustrated. >> good stuff igor. go to "think progress" and follow igor. thanks a lot buddy, we'll be right back. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪

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government in general, says billionth it is apparent the legislature has abandoned the mandate to serve the people. they serve themselves and that is all there is too it. scott says bill you continue to embarrass your just like the rest of the left-wing thugs in this country. justice was served. george zimmerman's story of self-defense was accurate. that's sick scott. that's sick. another emailer says bill how come every republican in our nation and states are in the same boxcar let alone the same train. doesn't anyone think for themselves anymore? not in washington. i don't know if you are read the news, but not in washington. that's not how it works here brother, at least for the legislators who come here. we talk a lot about the two washingtons. there is a good washington and the transient political washington. it's the "full court press," the "bill press show," quick break.

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overnight. we'll talk about that later on in the show. plus a lot of other stories we want to get into. in the race for controller in new york, eliot spitzer is way out in front of his opponent scott stringer. new poll released yesterday shows that eliot spitzer, former governor and frequent guest on this program, is up 48 points to 33 in the race for controller in new york so barring any roadblocks, he is looking for an easy victory up there. another interesting fact 53% find him favorable, give him a favorable rating. so his image has been rehabbed as far as the numbers tell. also edward snowden is looking for asylum in russia. he had some very, sort of concerning things to say when he said that the information that he has on the united states he could bring the united states down if he wanted to. i'm not sure if we should look

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about 20 minutes. he wrote a great piece about being on u street the right that the nothing verdict was read. and for those of you who don't know, u street is an area of washington that is just steeped in african american culture, and a lot of great things happen there, a lot of not great things happen there, including riots, but he was there when the verdict was read and just some powerful imagery there. meanwhile if you live in washington or follow politics you read "politico." yesterday they had a "politico" breakfast, and they usually interview lawmakers and policy makers, well mike alan from "politico" saturday down and talked to majority leader baseball commissioner bud selig, who a lot of people have mixed feelings about. i think he is a little goofy,

and doesn't have a good grip on the sport he is managing. he added to that yesterday, by admitting he doesn't use email. >> you have been very forward looking in digital media, and yet you have never sent an email. >> i never will. i have to say i have a daughter and my granddaughters i am illiterate when it comes to that, and i'm proud of it. i'm the only person in baseball without that and it hasn't hurt me a minute because i talk to the people every day and they tell me what they are doing. i did get an iphone so i made some progress, i guess. >> so he is like 78 years old and he runs all of majority leader baseball? my first question is why did he get an iphone?

why get an iphone if you don't know how to spend an email. >> yeah, that's pointless. >> he makes phone calls and plays candy crush, that's it. >> yeah, that's crazy. >> just get a kickcricket. >> yeah. >> i'm okay with that. >> all right. >> overhead lines making news on this tuesday tweakies appeared back on store shelves yesterday, but they are different than what they were before. first off they are no longer made by union workers. and second, the knew tweakies are smaller. >> what? >> not by much but a true

twinkie fan will be able to tell. also the shelf life has doubled. it was 26 days, now 45 days they say. >> no, you can keep it longer than 26 days. they will keep forever. >> now they say 45. one of the jurors from the george zimmerman trial has plans to write a book. juror b37 has not revealed her name. she has secured a deal with the literary management company and is now writing a book proposal. the juror wants everyone to understand the commit it takes to be sequestered as a juror in a high-profile jury. she is a middle-aged white woman and worked for a chiropractor for 16 years. >> i don't love that but i guess that's how the system

works. >> yes. a thrilling home derby, at city field. and the champion isn't even in the all-star game at all. >> i didn't realize that. >> he is one of the oakland athletics. he beat bryce harper 9-8 in the final round. he hit 32 home runs all together, which each of the 103 home runs hit by every player last night chevrolet is donating $529,000 to charity. >> he more home runs and longer home runs last night. >> he crushed it. >> that first round, i was freaking out. >> it was very impressive. >> i also had to put it on mute because chris berman is an affront to my ears. >> yeah. i was watching bryce harper pitching to his dad.

did you see the size of his dad? >> oh, yeah he has that old-man strength. although he couldn't throw a strike. he could have picked a better pitcher, and he might have won the damn thing. so the all-star game is tonight. >> yes. >> new york city field which is where the mets play. when they announced robinson cano last night, he just got drowned out by boos. >> yeah that didn't go so well. >> here in washington everybody is talking about filibuster and whether or not we are going to have reform. they tried this before. harry reid wanted filibuster reform, and got a version of it. where do we stand now? we'll ask chris frates so joins us on the line. thanks for being here.

>> thank for having me. >> why is harry reid now getting this serious about filibuster reform. >> the democrats have been frustrated all year with a number of obama executive nominees that they feel republicans are really dragging that feet on, so democrats decided to try to package all of those nominees together in july so that they can make this case for republican obstructionism, and if necessary, the nuclear option, the idea of changing the rules so they can pass these nominees with a simple majority vote instead of 60 votes that would require at least six republicans to sign on. and that was a strategic move by republicans where they felt like if they took these one at a time, they might not get the kind of attention that they could to package them together

and force republicans to block these things en masse. and it was a smart move. that's why they met for over three hours last night to try to come up with some solution. they fell short of forging a deal. the conversations went on through the evening and continue this morning. >> as of now, we have no deal on filibuster reform so it is looking more likely that we're heading towards a nuclear option from harry reid. >> that's right? and that's where we wake up today. there was some signs of hopefulness, both when i talked to republican and democratic senator last night. everybody said there was a bit of a catharsis in the room. everybody got to weigh in. at least half of the senate spoke at that long meeting, but everybody was very cautious particularly in the leadership when they came out of that meeting to say it was a good conversation, but everybody understands where the other side

is but there's no deal here. and democrats are basically making the pitch like look we only need six of you guys to come on board with us to avoid this nuclear option. it's no huge thing. there is some republican we know who want to avoid changing these rules to protect minority rights, and come along with us whereas republicans say we have real concerns with the consumer protection bureau, they have had concerns about that for a long time, and they have held up the head of that agency richard cordray, they have held up his nomination, now this is the second time, and they want to force changes to that, democrats say if you don't object to the guy, you can't object to his job by holding him up. and then there are a couple of national labor relations board members that were appointed by the president during a senate

recess. and republicans are making the case we're not going to give you the stamp of approval for who guys who we believe were illegally put into the job, and there was a lot of talk last night about give us two fresh nominees, they could be the most liberal people on the planet but as long as they go through the process right, we'll give them the votes, so there is starting to be a sense of where the deal would lie, which would be -- there would be some kind of oversight, you know, position put into the cspb maybe the inspector general or somebody who would report back to congress, and then would the president appoint two other people, there would be a deal that those next two people would go through the process, because republicans feel like they can't back down, if the courts said they were illegally appointed, they can't in good faith confirm these folks for the rest of

their term. >> chris your latest piece for national journal, harry reid thinks he can limit nuclear option fallout. he can't. >> we have heard a lot about nuclear option nuclear option. what exactly does that mean and what does it mean to harry reid if he goes that route? >> this is one of those things that is very inside washington -- >> right. [ laughter ] >> so it has a -- it has ramifications, kind of inside the senate but when you are a reglaner it doesn't sound as dramatic as everybody inside the beltway makes it. right now senate rules are that 67 senator, a super majority have to agree to change the rules of the senate so it happens very rarely that you can get that kind of buy in. but harry reid had found a procedural way to essentially

overrule that rule and change the rules with a majority 51 votes, so the idea would be that he would go in, you know, change the rules with 51 votes, and say that executive nominations no longer need the 60 to pass. republicans call that breaking the rules to change the rules. and that's exactly what democrats called it back in 2005 when there was a threat to over the judicial nominations for president bush. so what we're talking about is for harry reid to break the rules of the senate that requires 67 votes, change those rules with a majority and change them to say that on executive nominations, not judicial nominations or legislation, you need just a simple majority to get the presidents picks through. republicans argue okay if you do that, you should know when

there's a republican senate we would also you know, use that role to push through any future republican president's nominations as well, and what is going to stop us from saying well, you know we're really hamstrung on these judicial nominations, let's go ahead and apply that rule to judicial nominations, or we really want to get this piece of legislation through, we have done that before, and there's an argument that this will lead to a much -- you know an erosion of minority rights in the senate and it will be much more like the more partisan house in how it operates. and part of the senate is the minority has the ability to block things and democrats who have been around for a long time, are much less gung ho

about this nuclear option. >> right. good stuff from chris frates. follow chris on twitter at frates. and online at nationaljournal.com. thank you for being here. >> thank you. have a good day. >> you too. we'll see if harry reid actually gets it done. 21 minutes past the hour. we'll take a quick break and be right back. >> announcer: follow us on twitter at bpshow and tweet using the hashtag, watching bp. this is the "bill press show." ♪

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>> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> it is the "bill press show," the "full court press," twenty-six minutes past the hour. in the next half hour we'll be joined by clinton yates, our friend from the "washington post," lots to talk about with him. so stay tuned for that. one thing i wanted to get into, we talked a lot about the edward snowden case and the edward snowden situation. he is still in russia. he is seeking asylum in russia. putin yesterday made a statement on it, said his asylum status is not clear. so he's not sure if he will grant him asylum. we'll see how that plays out.

but one thing that bugs me i think we should all respect -- or -- you don't have to respect it -- but i respect the fact that we now know about these programs of spying that are going on in the united states. you don't have to respect edward snowden as a person, but i like that we now know that we are all being spied on. it's nice to know. that being said i -- i think that edward snowden may have worn-out his welcome a little bit, and i'm not so sure that i'm ready to call him a hero and -- and carry on with -- with -- with giving him praise for a couple of statements. first of all, he is running around saying if anything should happen to him, you know, he wants to make sure that he has data somewhere else that will still come out. i'm not sure that we're -- you know, going to go after him in terms of dropping a bomb on him or droning him or anything like that, but what really really hit me was when he said that he

has enough information on file to bring down the united states. now, if you want to say that you're a whistleblower, and you want to show people what is going on in your country, you want to let the people of your country know you are being spied on. i'm okay with that. i'm okay if you want to point out that some things are going on, but when you jump over into hey, if i want to bring this country down, i could, you lost me buddy. you lost me. enjoy your life in russia stuck in an airport or living in an embassy there, but i think you have worn out your welcome here. twenty-eight minutes past the hour. very quick break and back with

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and i'm tweeting at peter ogburn, follow us there. and one man you definitely should be following on twitter is clinton yates. he joins us in studio this morning from the "washington post." thanks for being here. >> no problem. how you doing pete? >> i'm doing really really well. you do a lot of stuff for the "washington post," but your twitter feed has been so great recently. >> thank you. >> so much stuff happened over the weekend with the george zimmerman trial, and my first thought was i want to see what clinton is saying about it so i went right there. >> yeah, it's one of those situations that you can get caught up into the specifics of the case, in terms of the conviction or non-conviction and what should have been admissible in court, or you can look at what i believe is the

root problem, our inability as a nation to look at the ill effects of profiling. it is very difficult to believe that if he doesn't profile trayvon martin, and then accost him, this never happens. now the question is -- the case of course only dealt with what happened after the confrontation started. to me why are we still allowing ourselves to profile anybody, particularly young black men who are routinely villainized and demonized in mass media? that is an issue that we need to address on a basic level. the entire defense was based on this notion, of course he is likely dangerous, he is a young black man walking around the neighborhood. that is the problem in my opinion. >> we got a call from a guy in chicago, and he said when you have youths engaging in the type

of behavior and appearance that trayvon was, than this is the outcome, which is one of the more outrageous things i have heard. with the baggy pants and the hoodies. >> exactly. people don't understand that that inherently discriminatory belief is half of the problem if not most of the problem. because we put racism at such a high level of disdain in this country, we are unable to discuss the fears we have and that is the issue. you don't want to be labeled as racist, but it prevents us on looking at the real issue. >> rachel gentell people have sort of made fun of here for her appearance in court, and she gave an interview last night

and she said the jury that's old school people we're in the new generation, my generation and the old school people are the ones that will say things like, oh he had baggy pants, wear your pressed pants and you wouldn't have a problem -- >> exactly. which is insane. and she was clearly sort of embarrassed about her education level, and i'm like what does that have to do with anything? you can see the inherent biases that were in some of these people, which i'm not necessarily blaming them for. but the point is if we're not willing to confront it these things are going to continue to happen regardless of the details. >> one clip i want to play, dan this is from jury b37, who was on with anderson cooper last night. she was off camera in the dark and you could just hear her voice, and when the jury was

deliberating, one of the things that she said was his heart was in the right place. >> he went above and beyond what he really should have done, but i think his heart was in the right place, it just went terribly wrong. >> and i'm not the first person to say this but if his heart was really in the right place, he would have asked that young kid, walking in a rain storm, can i give you a ride? >> yeah and somebody with their heart in the right place, doesn't shot somebody else in the heart. i think that that is what doomed -- that is what allowed george zimmerman to walk in this sen their you. >> jamal simmons was in studio

with us and he said something that really stuck with me he says every black man at some point in your development has had a case where someone came to you and said you -- you shouldn't be here. >> yeah. >> you are in the wrong place. >> yeah, that's a fact of life and a lot of guys -- you can read a of different pundits across america who wrote columns like that young black men are not allowed to be boys. they go from little kids to grown men. the entire notion that trayvon was some violent thug because he happened to be 17 years old, not the case he was a 17 year old boy, and he was outweighed by 50 pounds by that guy but you would have thought there was a huge physical threat there. he was probably the one in fear for his life there.

but going back to your point, yes, every single person has had that -- that scenario and you become expected to apologize for somebody else's fear. i believe core jefferson wrote that. it's a burden you have to deal with, and a burden you have to unravel yourself for other people, and for some black men in america it's a burden they don't want to handle but it's matter of freedom in some cases. >> man it's so heavy to sort of the about that and wrap your mind around that, and i'm glad we're having the conversation, and i wish that some of the jurors had thought about that side of things. i'm not sure exactly what they were thinking about, but marco o'meara, the clip where he says that george zimmerman is now essentially going to go into hiding because he is fearful. >> he is in hiding, and i think he is going to have to stay there -- >> how long? >> i don't know if he ever walks

the street again not wondering what the person coming at him or walking behind him is going to have the anger that we now see in some of the tweets and information. >> i don't think that's a con con -- comfort for the martin family, but i hope he feels that need to think about these kinds of things for the rest of his life. >> yes. and again, that is how many black americans and people of color feel every single day. that is the spotlight that you have on you that you feel from the standpoint of law enforcement or just from other people, neighborhood watchmen as well. so you don't want an eye for an eye situation here. what you want to be able to reach out and talk to somebody to dissolve all of these tensions, because the only way that happens is by believing that there is something wrong to

begin with. and as long as you deny it there will never be any progress, and that's the main issue, here. the culture of denial about the way that we deal with people in this country. >> one of the things i see a lot is from african person parents who say what am i going to tell my kids? i'm a white guy. i got two white kids. >> yeah. >> i would have no idea what i would tell an african american child -- >> i don't know, but you have got to think about it in this way too. it shouldn't just be an opportunity for black parents to talk to their black children. this is an opportunity for everybody to say this is why you greet people when you walk down the street because you never know who you are dealing with, and you don't want to find yourself in a situation like

george zimmerman did, where he was afraid of something. >> saturday night on u street and u street is an area rich with african american culture. you were there on saturday night when the verdict came out, which -- >> yeah i mean it was an interesting situation, because i was at ben's next door which is next door to ben's chile bowl and there were a lot of people in the crowd that were so saddened, or stunned. but they didn't want to cry publicly. you didn't want to show that weakness. nobody wanted to openly weep even though you could tell that was a lot of the reaction that was going on inside of them. there was some anger. there was a peaceful protest later, i wasn't at that. but it was a real bummer to say the very least to the night.

in such an obvious situation where something has gone wrong -- to say the justice system failed i don't know. there are other issues there, but the reaction was plain disappointment, and a lot of people were so sad, they didn't even want to cry, because they didn't want to how it is. there were three women who were sitting in front of me who looked around the age of trayvon's mother and i didn't have the heart to ask them if they were mothers, but as i wrote in the column, it didn't matter, at that point everybody knew what they felt and the whole place just cleared out, and everybody just solemnly walked away. and it was a real gut punch. >> one of the things i took away from your piece is when you talked to a man who was there, after the verdict was read he says i ain't surprised, though this is america, it has been like this for years. and you think that we have come far -- and we have made some

progresses, but you think that we've come farther than we have. >> yeah, and it's a big country. there are the floridas of the world, texas, d.c.s, but right now florida is not a place i would want to be because there is obviously going to be a lot of on the ground tension for the next couple of months. >> where do we go from here? we'll talk about that next. we're joined by clinton yates, very short break and we'll come back and talk more about this. stay tuned. >> announcer: this the "bill press show."

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>> announcer: like politics? then like the "bill press show" on facebook. this is the "bill press show." >> it is the "bill press show," the "full court press." we are heard nationwide on your radio, and seen on current tv. make sure you check that out. my name is peter ogburn sitting in for bill today. i'm joined in studio by "washington post" columnist, clinton yates. i highly suggest you follow him. we're talking about the george zimmerman verdict, the trayvon martin situation. clinton you were telling me off the air about something you saw. >> yeah, last night, watching tv flipping around just sort of taking things in. and they saw two different commercials and they struck me. one of which is a commercial for a car company. and this guy is looking over the hills and he says the british are coming?

and then he see the fiats, and he says no the italians are coming. and the ladies start taking off their clothes, with the idea that italians are great lovers. and i saw another commercial for chevy, and it was this whole pride and strength thing some sort of 20th anniversary for the [ inaudible ] rock thing. and there was an image of a black father leaving a little league game with his son, and that imagery was starkly different. and there was one commercial where it was like that's weird. and another one where it was

starkly much more positive. and i noticed it immediately. and i say that to put in to perspective the difference. >> and i also think that it speaks to the -- the sort of racism that you might not even know you are taking part in and i think that the paula deen situation sort of shined a light on that -- >> well, that was a little bit different. >> but when people said she doesn't even realize that this is racist. >> yeah. sometimes you have to look for what you can't necessarily see. >> yeah. on the protest, because the jury has spoken. as it stands, george zimmerman is a free man. he gets his gun back and loses no rights. but there are other things that can take place, including a civil trial or the justice

department taking a look at it. there was some violence overnight in california, but it makes me ask the question where do we go from here? >> protests are still sort of the first form of free speech that we have in this country, but there is part of them that is still sort of old school in terms of the message that they get across. to me it comes from a grassroots effort of taking ownership of who they are. there is a new tumbler out that says i am not trayvon martin. >> yes. >> there is an initial movement to say i am trayvon martin to symbolize who he was as a victim. but a lot of people have come out and say i am not trayvon martin. and i'm trying to take ownership of it, and recognize how not paying attention to that and

taking a look the other way while other people are treated differently, affects this nation. and if people can take a look at themselves and say how can i make this better in terms of my simple day-to-day operations, i think to me is just as productive as any protest. >> we have about forty-five seconds left will and should the president speak out on this? >> i don't think he necessarily should speak out on this. in his adopted hometown of chicago, kids are getting gunned down left and right. but again violence youth violence, racism and profiling, huge problems in america, got to talk about it. >> and nobody is talk about it better than you are clinton. >> thank you sir. >> follow clinton at clinton clintonyates, good stuff man.

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be in studio and jen bendery. so we'll get an update from the white house and talk about other news going on. plus eliot spitzer has a big lead in his race for controller in new york 48 to 33 over his challenger, scott stringer -- or his opponent scott stringer 53% of new yorkers view him as favorable. that is quite a turn around. what does it mean to new york and anthony weiner? only time will tell. plus juror b37, b37 -- bingo! -- b37 spoke with anderson cooper on cnn. and said that the jury felt that george zimmerman's heart was in the right place when he went after trayvon martin. to which i say if his heart was

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>> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar.

>> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv. [♪ theme music ♪] >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation, on your radio, and on current tv, this is the "bill press show." >> it is the "bill press show," the "full court press," live on your radio all across the country on your favorite progressive radio station, and on current tv as long as there's a current tv you'll have the "full court press." hi there, my name is peter ogburn. i'm sitting in for bill press on this tuesday july 16th. we have already had a monster show, lots of stuff to talk

about between filibuster and george zimmerman and protests in memory of trayvon martin seeking justice for trayvon martin, and we're going to talk about more of that coming up here in the last hour of the show. as i mentioned a couple of times, bill will be back tomorrow, so you have got me today. i do so appreciate. and dan we'll make the clinton yates conversation available later on -- >> absolutely on our podcast. >> we got an email and said that was the best conversation i have heard on trayvon to date. clinton knows his stuff. so follow us on twitter at bpshow. i'm also taking your comments all throughout the show at peter ogburn. so interact with us.

i have the computer right here. i'm interacting all over the place. running the board today is mr. dan henning. mr. henning, hello. >> good morning. >> this is the first time i have filled in since you have been married? >> no, there was one other time. >> how is married life treating you? >> it's good. no complaints. it is the same as before. >> still the after glow. >> no it is the same as before. >> you are still in the honeymoon stage. it will stay that way forever. the best piece of advice i got when i was getting married. are you happy? yes. do you really love her? yes. then why do you want to mess that up.

but that's really not the case. your life changes when you have kids. once you have kids, all bets are off. my wife is already emailing me this morning. i'm at loss as to what to do with the children. they both came in to my room at 6:00, one of them was carrying the cat on his back. one of them sprayed the other one with water to wake them up. [ laughter ] >> good morning, and poured some water on him. >> you have got some great kids. >> then again, i have to deal with you and bill. >> right. right. >> hey buzzfeed's white house correspondent evan joining us in

studio. hi evan. >> i'm still working on that punctuality thing. >> hey, as long as you are here when i throw it to you, that's all the matters. >> i got it. >> bill will be back tomorrow. we have already gotten a lot of emails about my performance. >> i don't believe that. >> haters are going to hate. >> that's right. >> i stayed up to watch most of the home run derby last night. i want to play this one clip of the winner from the oakland athletics won. he dropped monster.comes. >> back! back! back! >> there it is, chris berman. he is the worst times 1 hundred. >> and he wins it with a bomb. back! back!

back! back! gone! he has won the home run derby! >> didn't they put him on to sort of troll everybody? >> yes 100%. >>back! back! back! >> but what was killing me is, i was watching it with my eight year old, because he is finally getting into baseball. and i put the younger kid to bed -- i forget his name -- >> you are a horrible father. >> oh, whatever. the other one -- so i'm watching baseball with my favorite child -- no so he now knows that chris davis that place for the baltimore orioles is like known for his home runs. so they are talking to him and he is saying well it's nice to be here, and then out of nowhere, berman goes back!

back! back! and my son goes what is he doing? what is he doing? he had no clue. so i just turned the volume down. >> back! back! back! back back! >> every batter. trying to have a conversation with a guy and berman just explodes. and he has those jewels now to where it's fuel on back! back! back! >> this is the ring tone of the summer, i think. >> the first person i hear with a berman ring tone, that phone is getting smashed. it's 12 minutes past the hour. we have a lot to talk about, but first -- >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> back! back! back! >> no, come on no more. >> "the view" has already

announced a new co-host to replace elizabeth hasselbeck, jenny mccarthy will join "the view" this fall. she has been on the program 17 times, and co-hosted the program eight times already. >> i don't know if autism activist is the way i would describe jenny mccarthy. >> i think it is generous. she speaks about vaccines in a way that scientists don't think you should take about vaccines. >> uh-huh. and since she has been leading that campaign we have seen mumps and things like that go up in this country. so she'll have to answer for that at some point. but i like watching "the view." >> it has a lot of great interviews during the campaign trail we watched it a lot, and

found the interviews to be very interesting. yeah. >> if you go there to get your news, you are doing something wrong. >> i agree. >> but i like it. true story, i watched it every day for a week, and i got my period. [ laughter ] >> explain that one. >> play berman. >> back! back! back! back! >> a lot of people tuned in to watch the verdict of the george zimmerman case this weekend. over 10 million viewers tuned in according to nielsen ratings, that is more than will likely watch tonight's all-star game. fox news lead the way but cnn had the most viewers in the key demographic. >> you know who didn't do so well was msnbc. >> that's interesting, because they have been covering it very closely as well. it got changed over everywhere.

my wife has a play she has been directing and the opening night was saturday night, and i was at a happy hour before the play started, and we were there, and they switched the bars and tvs, from sports to the verdict. that was interesting. >> yeah, as people were partying they kept an eye on the tv. >> side note on the story we talked about last hour. we were talking about how this jury had secured a book deal. now no more. >> not to much. she has changed her mind on the book deal. >> after the interview with anderson cooper? >> yeah, which i think is probably smart. i'm not so sure i like that idea. and i think the interview showed a lot about what the jury didn't know. >> yeah, there were things that they were told to disregard that

she regarded. it was an interesting interview. >> there was a lot of stuff that came out of that that i go oh my god, this case was so screwed up from top to bottom. let's start there, because when it happened, the president famously spoke about this and said if he had a son he would look a lot like trayvon martin, and now that we have gotten the verdict, george zimmerman is a free man. he gets his gun back. >> yeah. >> he -- that's it -- he is back to normal life. the president did put out a statement on it, and i'm curious to know if he is going to have anything else to say about it? >> jay carney yesterday after repeated questioning from all of us -- >> and he appreciates all of those questions. >> he does and some of them he is going to take back with him and review and come back but on repeated questions he said the president has said what he is going to say and hang off for a

while. today eric holder addresses the naacp convention in orlando, and buzzfeed was told that he was going to be talk about the trayvon martin while he was there. he addressed it a bit at the delta convention which is a big sorority convention. he talked about trying to focus on this case and moving forward, and trying to do the next thing but overarching on all of this is a chance for a federal prosecution, and holder will be speaking directly to the case this afternoon so that's something to look out for. >> the department of justice is going to look at it whether or not they bring charges, we'll see. >> yeah, i think that's risky in terms of charges. the experts i talked to on sunday said it is not that likely, but still, holder is

still going to be addressing these issues and i think he made a fairly strong statement yesterday, and i think you will probably see something pretty strong today too. >> i'm personally fascinated that eric holder is still around. what does the future hold for him? >> that's a good question. he shows no sign of stopping and he has been through quite a bit, this media report he just came out with sort of got buried on all of this trayvon stuff was on friday on what the government is going to do now after all of the phone record stuff, and then james rosen from foxes news they made some significant changes to how they operate, and holder took a lot of blowback on that, but the president seems to support him still and he seems to be moving forward. >> what are some of the changes in terms of how they are going to do business now?

>> the essential difference is that they are not going to call reporters at sort of criminal co-conspirators, and if they are going to look at your phone records, they are going to tell you if they are doing it. >> congratulations that's progress. >> yeah. it's different. it's not secret stuff, but they do still reserve the right to snoop around as much as they want. but they signaled less criminal prosecution of leakers to begin with, so maybe cutting off their security access, other things like that, because these criminal charges opens a pandora's box. this sort of happened with the zimmerman trial too, once you set off to charge somebody criminally, you have to go after that, so if you do that less maybe they have less potential to do these things with

reporters, which holder himself said he regretted. >> it's interesting that they sort of say, yeah we're still going to do it we're just going to let you know about it. >> yeah. >> that's not that much different than what is going on with edward snowden. i'm happy that we know the government is snooping. i -- i don't like it. i don't -- you know, i don't think it's 100% okay but at least we know about it now. >> the knowledge has fundamentally all theed the debate about this. mr. was a quinnipiac poll that came out monday that showed a tremendous shift on this issue. before like 63% of americans said it's fine to give up the civil liberties, and no it's like 40% say it's the right amount, and 53% say we have gone too far. so knowing this stuff -- you are right about knowledge. it's important that the american

people have information about what the government is doing, but at a brood level it is shown has the population are having different opinions about this than before they knew it was going on. >> yeah. >> and i think you are right, the more knowledge people have about this stuff, the more it changes the debate. >> well, i am very wise. >> oh, you are. >> we have to take a break. i'm peter ogburn. stay tuned we have lots to talk about, shuffles in the obama administration, we'll talk about them coming up next. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." for true stories. with award winning documentaries

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(vo) and above all, opinion and attitude. >> really?! this is the kind of stuff they say about something they just pulled freshly from their [bleep]. >> you know what those people are like. >> what could possibly go wrong in eight years of george bush? >> my producer just coughed up a hairball. >>sorry. >>just be grateful current tv doesn't come in "smell-o-vision" >> oh come on! the sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. (vo)only on current tv. ♪

>> back! back! back! back! >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> dan is literally trying to kill me today. i'm hitting you with a no kiss rule. no kiss rule when i'm hosting. no kiss, and the berman. >> kiss berman. >> the burrman kiss. >> twenty-six minutes after the hour, i'm peter ogburn jsitting in for bill press. let's talk about the shuffles in the white house. janet janet napolitano has said she is leaving. >> that's right.

>> what does that mean to the white house and that department, because i think it has taken a fair amount of heat over the years of how it has been handled. >> yeah, she is one of the longest running secretaries of that department. it's a big changing of the guard in terms of how dhs has been run, but it also gives a chance for the white house to sort of reflect on what they have done while they were there, and when -- when she left they both -- she put out a statement, and the white house put out a statement, both talking about immigration and the changes they had made, and deportations of people like the dream act kids, stuff like that. she has put her mark on there that has been a very obama administration mark on how to run things. there's been -- there's been a

shift with the dream act kids which is something else he has promised to do, and he has done that too, so it's a chance for her to move to this other job -- that there has been some speculation that she might run for president, but this seems like what she wants to do. it's a huge job. and it's a big deal. and gives obama a chance to solidify what he has done with the department and gives us all a great chance to have a wonderful nomination fight. >> oh, yes. >> so wrap it all up. >> yeah, and we're going to talk about filibuster and nominees with jen bendery in the next half hour of the program. and this is another lady leaving the obama cabinet. so we'll see how he handles that. evan mcmorris santoro from

buzzfeed, and "huffington post" jen bendery is in next on the "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

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i appreciate the constructive criticism, but bill will be back tomorrow. but not unlike a doughnut surrounds his empty hole with fabulous substance, i have brought in some great people. thank you both for being here. >> thanks. >> of course. >> how it is going? >> it's a going well. >> i know you had a late night. tell me what was going on last night? >> well, there were several dozen reporters steaking out a very unusual meeting in the senate. all 100 senator were called into a private meeting to figure out how to move forward with their rules in the senate. it wasn't on sequestration or solving the farm bill or anything this was a four-hour meeting on how to figure out how

to move forward with their own senate rules. >> yes, how to do their job, basically. >> and how did that work out? >> and in the end there was no deal. >> so you heard it here first, congress meets, nothing. >> although no deal doesn't mean no action is happening. today no deal on how to change or not change filibuster rules, means that today a whole bunch of votes that democrats want are likely to move forward, so in the end it looks like the democrats won. >> so harry reid has been making a push in the last couple of days and has been working on this for months that he is ready to get filibuster reform done. why now as opposed to before? >> well, first of all it's not just -- it should be clarified that it's not filibuster reform, just do away with the filibuster

in the senate. i think democrats have 55 numbers right now. >> sure. >> you guys don't know. >> i would be a great ntsb summer intern right now. i would just go uh-huh. >> so republicans have blocked all kinds of things at crazy levels, so what harry reid is trying to do is change the filibuster rule only so it effects executive nominees. so that leaves out -- basically filibuster rules will stay in play for all legislation and judicial nominees, so the executive nominees he is saying i'm tired of you guys holding everything up. so when they debated last night they were arguing over whether

or not republicans would agree to let them through, and -- and if they are not going to let them through, harry reid said we have the votes to change the filibuster rule just to let them through. but today they are going to begin voting. it sounds like republicans caved, therefore we're going to let you move forward with this batch. >> so you mean let them through just to have a vote. >> right that's also very important to clarify. this is not a fight about passing all of obama's nominees. this is just a fight over having a vote on them. which is hugely different. so they can't even get votes on these people. if you don't support a nominee, just don't vote for him or her. so it sounds like as of 11:00 this morning, democrats have seven executive nominees they have been pushing forward,

starting at 11:00, they are going to move forward on them. and if republicans try to block it, boom, filibuster reform. so democrats won this round it looks like. >> okay. all right. >> and that means a lot for president obama. one of the big nominees we are talking about is rob cordray -- >> he is the first vote. >> how long has he been waiting? >> 730-something days. >> and he comes after they didn't let elizabeth warren have the job, and that lead to her becoming a united states senator. and it wasn't that they thought elizabeth warren or cordray are unqualified for the job. they think the job shouldn't exist, and the department should change, so the whole idea they are going to hold this up until the administration agreed to gut the department.

so that's a very different way of using a filibuster. you would expect a nominee to be he can't do the job, but this is actually sure -- >> i have no problem with the man himself. >> and it has gotten to the point where plenty of republicans say i like richard cordray -- >> yeah. >> but republicans are straight up, they are not even pretending they don't like him. they are all say he is very competent. he has a great stellar record, i think as ag in ohio but they flat out are like we don't like the agency he is going to lead. so we're going to block it from having a leader, which is crazy. >> and the department is a big part of obama's legacy. it's a huge fart -- part -- my god, i'm awful today -- >> back! back!

back! >> i'm the ntsb intern today. but to see this happen is pretty amazing. it's actually a very big deal not just in terms of the arcane senate rule part. it seems like a big deal. >> i want to play one quick clip, mr. henning, because we're not used to seeing harry reid fight for something. he is not the most ballsy leader, but he said it's awfully suspicious at the positions that are being blocked. >> the focal point has been the last few months on all of these people on the secretary of labor, and two nlrb posts. do you think there is something in that message to the american people? >> so harry reid seems to have some fight in him on this issue. >> the guy was a boxer, man.

i disagree with you. i think he has been a fighter all along. >> i think he had a chance to get filibuster reform done and took a really really watered down version that bit him in the ass. >> you mean at the beginning of the year. >> yeah. >> but he brought this one to the brink. he was talking yesterday morning as if it was a done deal. he is like when we move forward with this filibuster reform things will be different. he was ready to play hard ball. >> yeah. yeah. what is the fallout then? >> there is no fallout do you think america is going to rise to the fence of the senate? >> yeah. >> to be honest it is a very big deal for democrats, harry reid, and the white house, but the senate remains fundamentally broken, right? >> absolutely.

>> they have done some stuff, but in general, a sort of permanent filibuster penalty that they operate under, will mostly stay in place. >> 866-55-press is our phone by the way, 866-557-7377. we would love to hear from you. also i'm at peter ogburn. we're going to take a quick break. go ahead and get those calls in take a couple of questions and comments there, and we have lots of other stuff to talk about here on the "full court press." i'm peter ogburn sitting in for bill today. we'll be right back. >> announcer: heard around the country and seen on current tv. this is the "bill press show." ♪ debt, cute little puppies. if wayne lapierre can make up stuff that sounds logical while making no sense... hey, so can i.

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>> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> hi, there. hi, it's a the "bill press show." the "full court press." i'm peter ogburn sitting in for bill. we were just talking, let me see that book, one of the guests i was trying to get on the show today was this guy. if you can't see him he has a lot of piercings on his face. i don't even know how he drinks water. i think if he takes a sip of water, it just comes pouring out of his face, but he has a new book out "the lost gospels according to al jergonson," and

he is just crazy. [ laughter ] >> i was saying i just saw paul mccartney, i'm going to see bob dylan dylan, and then i have to go see the dave matthews band with my wife. >> you can suck it up. >> i will. but i'm going there just to people watch. >> who goes to matthew's shows now? are there a lot of hemp necklaces? >> probably teenagers or something? >> no, it is mostly people in their late 20s, because of the stuff he put through in the '90s when they were in high school. >> but wouldn't they be in their 30s then? >> i think they will be mostly that. >> i don't think he has put out any new stuff -- >> he is just always on the

radio. he must have something new. >> i guess. >> i don't listen to him. >> i don't know. i'm not looking forward to it. and we have to get a sitter and everything. >> you are going to have a wonderful evening -- >> i would so rather be on the sofa right now. i would really rather be doing something else. i just want to watch the first 48 on tivo. that's where i am now. i'm in the mid-30s. i don't want to go to concerts anymore. >> what if chris berman went to the concert? >> chris! chris! chris! i want to talk about a name that hasn't come up as much in the last couple of days, and that is edward snowden. bill came out early on and said he liked what snowden did.

he doesn't necessarily think we should make him into a hero but he views him more as a whistleblower and not a tradeitor. so for me personally the tide sort of turned when he said he could bring down the united states with the information he has. and i think you jump from whistleblower to traitor with those kind of statements. so where is the white house with this and how will they continue the hunt? >> the white house has not been a fan of snowden's right from the beginning. at first it was like he was just some hacker to now they are telling other countries publicly, if you help him we're not going to be happy. we need to shut this down. but the public is still on the whistleblower side. we haven't seen polling since he said if anything happens to me,

the whole system is going to come apart. i think the public is generally supportive of the information he has put out. but the white house is not a fan, and i think they think the more he talks the better it is for them. >> i think it's important to keep in mind, that we're calling him a whistleblower, and some people call him a hero and all of these ways of summarizing who he is, but the fact that he leaked information about level programs, that all three branches of government have been for years signing off on the kinds of things that he is now exposing. and there's a point at which you -- you need your government and national security people to protect you, right? and if this is a three-branch government supported program that has been in effect for many years now, i have a hard time

feeling relieved that he's putting all of this information out there, and i'm a journalist and i understand both arguments, but as a citizen and person it makes me uneasy what he is doing. because at what point should things not be classified? should everybody know everything? >> that's a very valid point. we had senator markly in studio with us last week and he said he thinks he was mislead -- >> snoweden? >> no merkley was mislead by clapper and other intelligence meetings, and the white house continues to say, well they weren't at all of the meetings.

>> clapper admitted it,s like yeah, i didn't tell you the truth. >> so what do we do with that? >> yeah, there are so many nuances with this. i find it hard to be solidly one way or another. it's like we are all talking about secret information that we can nip at on the edges, but none of us know because it's classified, but it does seem like people like senator merkley should be kept up to date on what we're doing. it is a top secret meeting, and he is not allowed to talk about it, except for with people like clapper. but on the other hand, i do come back to that question at what point should nothing be classified? >> i think that is a very enlightened smart take on it and we have absolutely no room for that in talk radio.

>> you need black and white. >> what are you doing to me here? really quickly, the president is going to be doing a series of interviews today on immigration. are we going to get anything done with immigration reform? >> i would not bet money on it. >> yeah. >> i -- i know -- i think we'll get something. i do. >> okay. >> i know there's a lot of -- on my twitter feed there are a lot of reporters i follow and a lot of them are saying it's over but maybe i'm just the glass half full kind of gal, but i think they are going to get something done. i think boehner -- john boehner -- >> as opposed to chad boehner. >> i know. i think he is in an unen viable position. >> it is genuinely amazing to me

that everybody said we have got to get something done even republicans were saying we will continue to lose elections. >> and it might help people like boehner and house republicans to get some momentum by saying they are lowering the bar so much, that at the 11th hour they are saying hey we can do this. >> i don't get a sense, though that the white house thinks that things are moving along -- >> but they are not going to say that they are. why would they? it would blow it. >> yeah, you are right. >> you sharp shooter. all right. thank you both so much for being in here with me. >> you're welcome. >> any time. >> it's the "full court press." the "bill press show."

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