>> michael: coming up, seeing that we can't allow the slow unraveling progress of so many rorougughout h htotoryry h has sasacrcrifificic s so o muchchoo achieve eric holder basically hold the supreme court to stick it. good for him. i'm michael shure. you are in "the war room." [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> michael: earlier today attorney general eric holder announced his first steps to counter the supreme court ruling that gut the voting rights act one month ago. during a speech to the urban

league texas did not have approval of changing voting laws. >> a based on the history of pervasive voting relateed discrimination the supreme court itself failed to recognize that we believe the state of texas should be requiring to through a pre-clearance process before it changes any voting packet. >> michael: holder wants to bail in pre-approval requirements for texas. in 2011 texas was awarded four new seats in the house which required them to redraw the redeem the law. in his opinion thomas griffith

wrote: without the voting rights act texas would not need to be concerned with the federal judges but holder found a way to hold texas accountable. if they side with the justice department decision, the pre-approval requirement would apply to texas for ten more years. state attorney general greg abbott announced on twitter outside of obama's elections to control our elections i'll fight against cheating at the ballot box. but texas was the first battle. the first state to change sweeping voting laws.

>> this issue transcends partisanship, and we can't allow the slow unraveling of the progress that so many, many throughout history have sacrificed so much to achieve. >> in other words. we still have lots of work to do. joining us from washington a war room favorite and columnist for the daily beast, welcome michael tomasky. >> michael, nice to be with you. >> michael: would this bold move by holderrer expected by anyone? i was blindsided. >> i was blindsided by it as well. i thought everyone thought once the supreme court ruled that that was going to be it, and there weren't going to be many ways to pursue remedies or they would be pursueed case by case and state by state.

and it is state by state, holder starting with one state, texas where holder thinks he is the best case of discrimination. it has to be intentional as you signaled in your intro but the justice department is take this seriously and won't let that supreme court decision stand and will challenge it. >> michael: do you think they'll go after north carolina next? can they even do that, considering what north carolina has done? >> it's hard to say. the voter i.d. law is extremely onerous, but under this section three, this bail in section which was not thrown out by the supreme court only section four of the voting rights act was thrown out but there has to be proof of intentional discrimination. it's a higher bar harder to

prove. there is something that says that in texas which is probably why holder started in texas. >> michael: that's real red meat saying that the court in texas basically said this was intentional, and that's great for holder. let's talk about holder. he's been a complicated guy doing nothing with the nsa but here he is doing the right thing with an exclamation on civil rights. this is one of the reasons that i do like eric holder. is there anything to be read into it other than what it is right there? >> i'm sure he would say no, but it's our job to say yes. so yes. i mean, he knows i'm sure, that he has been subject to criticism. he has been subject to criticisms from liberals, from me, not that that keeps him

awake at night. >> michael: of course it does. >> i thought i would tell your viewers for purposes of disclosure but on the question of business with the associated press a lot of criticism from liberals and a lot of criticisms as you said earlier on the financial picture. so maybe he's looking to prop that part of his reputation a little bit. >> michael: they have been right there before the supreme court and since the supreme court on the issue of voting rights. minorities account for 90% michael, of the population growth in texas over the last ten years. do you think the g.o.p. is scared that they're losing texas or will lose texas? >> sure, they have to be. it's not going to happen very fast. it's not going to happen in in 2016. maybe '20, '24 at the earliest. i did see a study that came out

today that showed interestingly for the first time we saw the hispanic numbers in texas before the 2012 election, and obama beat romney, and ted cruz lost to his democratic challenger, whom i can't even name, and i bet you can't, either, by a similar margin, like 60-40 now bear in mind that romney and cruz won in 20/12, both by 20-something points. so these were walk aways yet they got hammered in the latino community. >> michael: it's a shame when ron kirk is no longer the losing democrat because he was the right answer to that every year. let's talk--let's talk a little bit about the nsa but listening to what you just said it's not a surprise that they want to build a huge fence on the border to mexico. it just dawned on me, all these

texans all these texan republicans are so consumeed with it when you see that 39-53 number. the nsa hearing we'll get to, but i want your take. we saw liberals and libertarian join forces yesterday. explain that for us, and tell me, is this a bipartisan issue now? >> it is a pi partisan issue yes. only involving certain factions within each patriot. the within the republican party the democratic party the wing that puts more emphasis on civil liberties than other parts of the parties to. some will tell you that they care, some really care and some sort of care. it is a coalition between those two factions within the two parties. i think it's going to gain

strength and i believe i saw a poll michael for the first time that showed a pretty solid majority that this surveillance was going too far and needed to reined in a little bit. >> michael: i wonder if you agree when you see that poll and the president's flags numbers do you think this is why? do you think this is hurting his approval rating? >> i do think it has. it's probably in terms of his approval rating one of a few factors. i don't know how much one can pin on this issue as opposed to say the irs thing which you and i know is bogus, but the media got all overheated about and probably held to drive down his numbers a little bit. maybe still economic questions undoubtedly still economic questions. yeah, i think the surveillance issue has taken it's share of the toll. >> michael: yes, let's go back to bipartisan legislation in which the senate approved a bill

to tie college loans to the financial markets. why are we seeing bedfellows here? it was tweeted yesterday look at the new senators, they want to hurt students, it's not that, is it? >> no, i don't think it is that. now the interesting thing about this vote which was very bipartisan, 17 of the 18 nos were liberal democrats, sherrod brown, elizabeth warren, people like that, who wanted a fix that would last longer and keep rates lower for longer than this, which was a compromise. >> michael: and it's tied to a fluctuating marketing. >> right. that's a big part of it. >> michael: before we say goodbye michael tomascy i want to talk to you about something that the president has been doing. he did it with ray kelly. rumors are circulated that he

may appoint larry summers as head of the fed. is this a bad move? i think it is. what is your take on it? >> yes i think it's a bad move. putting summers' history aside there is this other candidate janet yellin who would be a great choice from a historical precedent point of view. she would bust a glass ceiling. she would be the first female to chair the fed. yellin was 1-3 so let's hope that news bettors know something that you and i don't. >> michael: that's why michael tomasky is so great. with the "newsweek" and daily beast, glad to have you. coming up, headlines containing

the words nsa edward snowden and bradley manning, but are we missing the forest for the trees? and in florida it looks like the larger debate is just beginning. and later john mccain said his idea of turning the u.s. dollar into a coin would be a boon to strippers which gives me a chance to say, those damn flyboys, they're all alike. "the war room" on a thursday. we'll be right back.

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to leave the moscow airport today. snowden told russian tv that i would like to work in russia and find a life for himself. he's reportedly working on his russian. and the white house had a squarescare when the vote of the mosh amendment followed a spirited debate. >> we're here to answer one question for the people we represent. do we oppose the suspicionless collection of every american's phone record. when you have a chance to stand up for americans' privacy did you? please support the mosh amendment. >> passing this amendment takes us back to september 10th. >> i rise in strong support of the amosh amendment and i do so

as the person who is the principle author of the patriotic act in 2011. >> the only result is that those who are in engaged in islamic jihad will have been benefited. >> michael: michele bachmann how we will miss you. the amendment was narrowly defeated 217-205, but house backers said this is not the end of the debate. with us the executive director of the freedom of the press foundation and access to the ledge electronic frontier information, trevor, welcome to "the war room"." >> thanks for having me. >> michael: we're happy to have you. this would not limit the surveillance to people who are targeted in investigation. would you would congressman tim support that legislation? >> this is basically rolling back the patriotic act to make sure that it only encompasses

people who are under investigation for terrorism. right now how they interpret the statute, the secret fisa court which has been interpreting the statute in a very broadway which allows the nsa to back up every american's phone call. who calls you, how long, and where. >> michael: that's what they call the meta-da at a. they bring out this red hearing all the time. we're not collecting the content of your phone call. it doesn't matter, this meta-data is very revealing. it will show where you're going all the time your political leanings and information even your friends and family may not know. >> michael: and critics are saying they're storing the data for the future. why should we be concerned about that? >> they have this massive database which they can keep for five years in some cases and

forever in others, which they can then hand off to the fbi and other government agencies for any crime whatsoever. they say they're only allowed to do this for anti-terrorism purposes. but that's now how the law is written. where now everybody's information is relevant to a potential future investigation. the fourth amendment has been turned on its head. >> michael: seeing that as we have, and certainly as we have since snowden told us about it, is there--are we as a nation comfortable? are you, trevor timm, is there surveillance in the nsa? we know it's not going to go away. but where are we comfortable? >> we've been hearing that americans are comfortable with this. but i don't think that's true. all these polls have been coming out saying that americans are not comfortable. >> michael: as they learn more about it they're less comfortable. >> that's because they didn't know it was happening.

there was a poll in the "washington post" saying 74% of americans say that this violates american privacy rights. that's a huge majority, and this is probably for the first time that americans are hearing about this, and they're shocked. >> michael: i feel different, i knew what was happening and i thought i was comfortable with what i knew, but then i learned and there was a level of surveillance that i was uncomfortable with. let's move on to bradley manning. what is the government's argument here in the bradley manning case? >> they're charging with aiding the enemy which is unprecedence when we talk about leakers of the press. their case is based on someone from the civil war era where someone intentionally gave information to a newspaper in the 1860s that gave away codes for the union and was on purpose trying to aid the enemy. here we have a situation where

bradley manning was trying to inform the public of what he thought was wrongdoing been on. the government is saying just because he never intended to do so this information is on the internet and al-qaeda has access to the internet. this has huge implications. >> michael: and edward snowden done want to come home after seeing how bradley manning is being treated. he has it better in the moscow airport than bradley manning right now. >> he has made it clear that bradley man something part of the reason why he doesn't want to come back. a year or two ago when bradley manning was being held in solitary confinement, which amounted to torture which the u.n. and hundreds of law professors wrote to president obama and said he's being

unfairly treated. >> michael: what is his defense now? >> even if you don't agree with what bradley manning did he's facing up to two decades in jail no matter what the outcome of this trial is. his argument is that he never intended to aid any enemy. there is no evidence that he actually ever did. there are reports that the government made with the c.i.a. the state department, damage assessments, and they all concluded that wikileaks really didn't create much damage. it was embarrassing to the government but there was no harm. yet the government is going ahead with this draconian charge, and it will make it difficult for reporters to report on this information. >> michael: you say this trial has set a dangerous precedence for journalist. >> the aiding the enemy statute

is potentially dangerous. all the experts agree this will have huge implications for future whistle blowers. a great example is bob woodward, america's most famous journalist--second. >> michael: good correction. >> he had a book that came out a few years ago and osama bin laden before he died recommended it to his followers. the bob woodward's source is a highest ranking general in the military. and according to bradley manning charges they should all be in jail. >> michael: what should happen to edward snowden. what should his position be? >> i think he should follow through on the statement that he believes that this information should lead to a debate in this country.

unfortunately, the white house has been trying to stifle the debate on the nsa surveillance powers for years even though back when president was a senator, he was vocal critic of the nsa and the patriot act and all of these authorities. so what he should really do is to drop this heaven and earth tactics he's using to get edward snowden, focus on what we can do to improve privacy and transparency when it comes to the broad powers that the nsa has been claiming. >> michael: this has been a fantastic discussion, trevor timm executive direct of the freedom foundation. up next, florida is having itself quite a 21st century one can only wonder what they have in store for us over the next 80 years. right after that. >> this is what 27 tons of

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>> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing)

>> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv. >> michael: ever since george zimmerman walked free almost two weeks ago all eyes have been on stand your ground. that's the law in florida an 22 other states. even though zimmerman did not formerly invoke stand your ground in his trial that was the law that allowed him to walk away the night he murdered trayvon martin. now for nine days dozens of

young floridians called the dreamed genders have been camping outside of the governor's office, and they have been urging the governor to repeal stand your ground that hurts minorities. >> repeal stand your ground. repeal. [applause] these kids, they matter. to me, they matter. governor of florida, they need to matter to you. >> michael: but even after sitting down to meet with the protesters governor rick scott refuses to budge. >> i've put together a task force and they concluded that we don't need to change the law and i agree with the conclusion. >> reporter: governor scott may not realize it or he may not care, but stand your ground is a bad, and frankly racist policies. carding to the tampa by times

justifiable homicide have tripled since stand your ground. and worse if the victim was black, only 21% faced any penalty, and that number jumped to 41% if the victim was white. >> michael: apparently it's okay if you kill a black person and that's okay with governor scott. we have craig crawford, author of many books including this one which you have to read "the politics of life: 25 rules to survive in a brutal and manipulative world." >> hey, i love my home state michael, but i'm horribly embarrassed by our politics. we have great lakes and rivers. that's all i can tell you. >> michael: i'm glad you have great lakes and rivers can only get you so far craig. we have got to fix your politics. i think it's been since election day 2005.

you're in florida. what is the feel on the ground since the verdict. >> about as polarized and anywhere else as i find within my own family, friends and neighbors. i think going forward changing this law is just going to be tough. you know, the republican party most people talk about how the republican party is so strong in florida. the problem is michael, the democratic party is so weak. look at this governor's race for rick scott's re-election. democrats are looking for the former republican who became an independent as their savior in their race. you had big names going back to george snyders and something happened in our state, and they're all gone. there are not a lot of personalities at the state level level. >> michael: don't forget claude

pepper, the senior citizens. you alluded to, and many people are calling on stand your grounds repeal. even john mccain said arizona should reexamine its version of the law. what are the chances that stand your ground will go away? >> based on history of the last 20 years, i would say not very good. but this should be a real galvanizer to get out the vote for the senate and the house. maybe even the governor's race. rick scott is not doing well in the polls. i just saw one this week showing everyone who might run against him, including people with no name recognition were almost double digits ahead of him in most of the polls. right now it looks like he's easily defeatable. but he has a lot of money and the economy is getting better. >> michael: at one point wasn't he the least likable governor in the county? >> yes, i think he did own that at one point, and he's about

there again. at the same time who are the democrats who are going to run against him? right now there is one in the race that has no name recognition. and then you have carly cook that's the one that the democratic party is looking to as their savior, but again i just find that remarkable that they have to look for a former republican to beat this governor. >> michael: i'm happy that i host a show where the name ruben as key was said. he even ran for president, he ran in the primaries for president. >> he was one of the great reformers in our politics. he opened the sunshine florida. el google ruben askel.

>> michael: googling reuben sandwich and that's where i got lost. do you think the politics statements on trayvon martin will change the course of stand your ground? >> i think it could. again it's all about get out the vote in the midterm elections. it shut galvanize a lot of younger and i mean, if you look at the polls, it's just not the minorities who are against stand your ground. a lot of people see this case--the coalition that elected and re-elected barack obama disappeared in the last midterm election. it's really important to get them to show up again. the indication is they only show up when barack obama is on the ballot. this might be the kind of issue that keeps them in the fold come the mid form, and that could make a difference. >> michael: that's really

important. staying in florida which contenders in florida. >> jeb bush is a lock on favorite. rubio is popular but has crossed hairs with national republicans over immigration although that's not so true in the state. but jeb bush is the one if he ran that i think florida would a rally behind. as much as i would not like to see jeb bush become president it is about time that florida would have a president. we've got to get some democrats in this state that can contend. we've never had one. >> michael: that's true. reuben askey we're back to rubinogen. i think it's the most offensive thing ever uttered by a

representative, but i know it isn't. whatwhat are your thoughts. >> you know, what's going on is what people talk about how can republicans ever get the presidency back with these kinds of statements and these kinds of attitudes towards hispanic and losing hispanic votes to this extent. but there are two different ways of looking at it. to keep the house and to keep congress to keep their numbers there, these are the kind of constituencies on immigration and others issues because of the way districts are drawn michael. one of the things that has happened in our country is the way we have gerrymandered districts over the years. we have seen the parties have been able to weed out a lot of independent voters and other parties' votes so you have all these districts that they command so they just need to

cater to tea party attitudes and those kinds of voters. so it helps to keep congress in other words, it may help them lose the presidency for any time--the short term but not the long term. but that's what's going on. that's the split within the party. those who are just worried about keeping congress and just don't care about the presidency, they cater to the attitudes that king did. >> michael: certainly seems like that's the dynamic that we're sleeping in to. nobody knows more about politics than craig crawford. thank you for your time. looking for craig on craig crawford's "trail mix." we are putting the spotlight on migrant farm works but not the way you would expect. that's next in "the war room."

alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. [ speaking in spanish ]

>> michael: farm laborers have some of the harshest working conditions in the country and often earning low, low wages. they're undocumented with few opportunities to earn a living in this country, and many of them are women. a long kept secret is just how widespread sexual harassment and sexual assaults are in the field. four out of ten say they have experienced sexual harassment or

rape but don't report it because of fear or lack of information. in june "rape in the field field," the film was a result of a yearlong investigation for the center of investigatestive reporting and uc berkeley's reporting project. they found since 1998 not a single one of the men accused of sexually assaulting or raping farm workers have been convicted of a crime. 85 measures of85% of farm workers who complain to management face retaliation themselves. here on the front line of the documentary, "rape in the field." thank you for joining us an andreas. i want to talk about this after. [ speaking in spanish ]

>> michael: so andreas with you travels crude the country speaking--you traveled the country speaking to farm working women. >> we found--we traveled all over the country up and down the state of california, the midwest, florida and everywhere we went we heard the same stories. women were being sexually harassed assaulted at work and in the field. there are not a lot of statistics to say how often this is happening. it largely goes unreported, sexual assault in general. but we don't know how many undocumented women are out there. you combine those two and there are not a lot of hard numbers. everywhere we went we heard the same women. it was happening to the women

it had been happening everywhere and it's been happening a long time. >> michael: we know it's not reported. we know it's not reported in the military. it's not reported in civilian life, and underreported. >> you could start off with the language issue. a lot of women don't speak english. they don't have easy access to recurs. a lot of women don't have immigration papers which makes them fearful to report to the cops or sheriff. and then the shame of being a sexual assault victim and the fear of coming out to your husband and boyfriend fearing that you might be blamed. there is a long list why women don't come forward. >> michael: i would like to point you to another part of your film where you interview rene rodriguez being accused of being one of the sexual assault criminals. let's listen to rene rodriguez.

>> michael: so you know, he was never prosecuted. how difficult is it to prosecute these cases? >> i mean, just going back to sexual assault in general most case gas unreported. there is usually no witnesses. there is usually no physical evidence. even if you do get a rape kit it will often only show there was sexual contact. you take those barriers to begin with and then you have women who are afraid to come forward who don't know they have rights, they don't believe they have rights. whether you're documented or not

you have rights to protect new this country. >> michael: another barrier is getting these cases tried. how difficult is it for these women to prosecute these cases themselves? >> the vast majority of cases that are reported if some legal action does go forward does "z" not result in civil trials. most of them are settled by the court. a lot of times because their employers don't want their names in the papers. the women don't want their names in the papers, they don't want to be dragged through a court case and have to go through the details. >> michael: why do you think it's not reported in the media. i'm sure you got a lot of feedback. tell us about the feedback, and why isn't this reported. >> one of the reasons it hasn't been reported is people aren't looking for these issues. when you're talking about an undocumented population they're off the grid. it's hard to reach these people. they're migratory they're moving around. they're trying not to be seen because they don't want to be deported. the obama administration is deporting more people than ever,

so the fear is at a high level. you have to really go in, and we had the privilege of having front line investigative reporting, and investigative reporting program send a whole year reporting this. unless you can dedicate these issues to this type of investigation, you won't know it's happening. >> michael: thankfully they have dedicateed the resources to this investigation. the film is called "rape in the films." go to www.currenttv.com/youngturkscurrent.com to find a linkto the story. up next, brett brett ehrlich talks about mr. king himself. a the issues of the day. >> do you think there is any chance we'll ever hear the president even say the word "carbon tax"? >> with an opened mind... >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> ...and a distinctly satirical point of view. >> but you mentioned great

about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter) >> cutting throught the clutter of today's top stories. >> this is the savior of the republican party? i mean really? >> ... with a unique perspective. >> teddy rosevelt was a weak asmatic kid who never played sports until he was a grown up. >> (laughter) >> ... and lots of fancy buzz words. >> family values, speding, liberty, economic freedom, hard-working moms, crushing debt, cute little puppies. if wayne lapierre can make up stuff that sounds logical while making no sense... hey, so can i. once again friends, this is live tv and sometimes these things happen. >> watch the show. >> only on current tv.

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world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more gripping, current. >> michael: we love to end every week on a high note, and there is no one higher than brett erlich. he joins us now from los angeles. brett? >> that was amazing. there have been pretty amazing intros over the year, but that might just top them all. >> michael: we'll make sure to get a copy to you. >> thank you. let's get right into it. it isn't just steve king who has gotten all cantloopy from that side of the aisle. from the district of texas they were trying to say that there was someone in the bill that people could not come in and

defend those who have been discriminated based on race religion or culture. here's what he went with. >> there is nobody in this chamber that is more appreciative than i am for the gentleman from tennessee and my friend from michigan standing up for the rights of race religious, national religion of the delta smelt the various lizards, the lesser prairie chicken, and so many other insects who would want someone standing for their religion, their rights, their national origin. i think that's wonderful. >> i'm all for people being folksy but no one wants to be compared to a smelt. >> michael: or a grouse. >> yeah, you know, compare people who are being

discriminated on basis of race and religion, per them to lions. give them something proud to compare them to. >> michael: there is nothing proud about louie gohmert. >> i want to call him gohmert being from texas i would like to put a french flair on it. >> michael: he would love that. >> the national coins collectors, john mccain was among a number of senators who were introducing the coins act which would get rid of the dollar bill in favor of the dollar coin. mccain was asked about a certain criticism brought up by the owner of a gentlemen's club. he said, when it comes to tipping people at gentlemen's clubs, ie strippers, it's hard to put coins in someone's g-string and they would lose

tips. johnjohn mccain said, then without missing a beat then i hope they could obtain larger denominations, fives tens, 100s, then cackleed down the hallway and then scared a few children. this guy could have been president. i want to call this segment" that's just john." >> michael: it makes me feel really embarrassed because i've been using nickels my whole life. now i feel like a heel. brett erlich, thank you as always for being on the show and making us laugh as you do. finally tonight we bring it down a little bit but we take you to history. this is the birthday of emmet till. before there was trayvon martin there was emmett till. he was an african-american boy who was brutally murdered for allegedly flirting with a white

woman while visiting from chicago. he allegedly talked to--just talked to--carolyn bryant. two days later bryant's husband and project brother-in-law. they dragged him from his home and killed him. they later admitted to the heinous crime protected under double murder. till's mother chose to have an open casket for her son who had been beaten shot and weighted to the bottom of the river with a cotton gin fan tied to his neck. heshe wanted the world to see what happened to her son. the world did and the world began to respond slowly. it marked the beginning of the civil rights movement. it started in money mississippi. interestingly on july 18th of this year, 2013, willie reed

passed away at the age of 76. back in 1955, reed, an african-american who never met till risked his own life to testify against till's killers in open court. and trayvon martin's murderer got away with murder. and eric holder continued fighting the decades old fight for voting rights. a fitting birthday present for emmett till. there is racism and injustice but there is still bravely and hope. emmett till would be 72 years old today. thank you for joining us in "the war room." we say good night to lauren ellis, a member of our team who has been such a great soldier. i promise you will hear from her again.

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alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. ♪ theme ♪ cenk: welcome to "the young turks." what a great show ahead of you

guys. wait until you get a load of the. >> from the zimmerman trial this is the one minor the i that was on the jury, man her account is completely different from the earlier jurors. that's later in the program. now, we start with anthony wiener. the number of women he sexted with going up, his poll numbers going down. he said i might have sexted with three girls or something. now he said maybe it was six o