[ ♪ theme ] >> stephanie: happy monday morning. oh, thank god jacki schechner is back in the current news center. we had to fill three minutes at the top of every hour last week and we were reduced to things like this. ladies and gentlemen, we'll demonstrate once again jim and i the bob filner headlock. the sexually harassing mayor of san diego. >> get off me! >> thank you, ladies and gentlemen. thank you. >> it is like our own version of masterpiece theatre. well done. a little surreal.

i was in a hotel room in chicago and found current on the television there. little surreal to be watching the show from that arena, not actually on it and watching you guys try to fill the top of the hour. >> stephanie: wasn't that something? thanks a lot, jacki. >> a little scrambling. >> did i wave back at the screen as if you guys could see me. >> stephanie: that was sweet. we were perving out on you long distance. >> you should have seen me though. as i was watching, in my pajamas. >> stephanie: in bed, jim. here she is, jacki schechner back in the current news center. >> good to be back. good morning, everybody. president obama and hillary clinton are having lunch together at the white house today. no word on what the two plan to talk about or why exactly they're having lunch. the former secretary of state has been basically giving speeches making money doing that since she left government in february. and even though both the pro clinton ready for hillary pac and the anti-clinton stop hillary pac are already working

as if she's running for president in 2016, hillary herself has made no moves to forecast her plans. awful while on this noy wiener's wife is sticking by his side, his campaign manager has called it quits. danny ket um resigned over the weekend in the aftermath of the news that weiner has continued sexting long after his dropout from congress. he has responded by trying to shift the conversation away from shake-up and on to the issues facing the people of new york city. city council speaker christine quinn now holds a 9-point lead over weiner for the democratic nomination and says he has disqualified himself not only for his behavior but because he only passed one bill in his 12 years in congress. >> the new pope is proving to be much more progressive than the old pope. pope francis in a press conference today says he will not judge gay priests. his exact words are if someone is gay and he searches for the lord and has good will, who am i to judge? this is a huge departure from

pope benedict xvi. we're back after the break. >> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say

anything. what the hell were they >> only on current tv.

♪ it's a beautiful day ♪ don't let it get away >> eww. >> stephanie: jim and i just -- demonstrated the filner headlock and there he is on tv. the pervy mayor of san diego. by the way, i got the biggest laugh ever of my life. walking down the street. sadly not on this show. but there was some crazy guy in hollywood. riding a bike. >> as there usually is. >> stephanie: yelling something about god and [ bleep ] and i said oh, look, everybody, it is the mayor of san diego. [ ♪ circus ]

hey! he's going to get a little intensive therapy, jim, for a couple of weeks. >> couple of weeks. going to take more than that. >> stephanie: to learn how to, you know, treat women. >> sure. >> stephanie: treat chicks better. >> undo 70 years of treating chicks craply. >> stephanie: first tip for you, bob, the headlock. >> stop looking like a bass. >> stephanie: that's bass that stuck to the wood. >> take me to the river! >> stephanie: yes. exactly. all right. so yeah, that's pretty much weiner filner. it was weiner spitzer. >> weiner spitzer filner. >> stephanie: the republican strategist on "meet the press," murphy. mike murphy. you could tell he couldn't have been happier because it is all democrats because we're out of the mark sanford -- whoever the last three republicans were. >> sure.

>> stephanie: he was just like -- [ bleep ] okay. so oh, this just in. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] weiner's campaign manager has quit. i think that weiner might be just about cooked. in a new sign of tumult -- let's say. >> are you saying weiner may have to split? >> ooh. ow! >> you know. like a hot dog. >> stephanie: cooked too long. okay. the campaign manager has quit leaving his already skeletal team without a day to day leader. oh, dear! the consensus on the sunday show seems to be bye. might be time to go. i was watching that clip because we just played it, the audio. he seems oilier with that. listen, i don't know six, ten chicks, i don't know. who can say what someone else considers inappropriate. >> um, well. >> there's kind of a consensus if you cheat on your wife, that's inappropriate.

>> it's not exactly cheating. >> oh, really? >> stephanie: jim? >> it's creepy. [ laughter ] >> there's no physical contact. >> there's emotional cheating. >> stephanie: it is an internet thing. it is just carlos danger. ♪ ♪ there's a man who goes by carlos danger ♪ ♪ when he's on the road, he tweets with strangers ♪ ♪ another chance he takes ♪ odds are we will lose our lunch tomorrow ♪ ♪ carlos danger man ♪ carlos danger man ♪ he's taken weiner pictures and using a fake name ♪

♪ carlos danger man [ applause ] >> jim, if you did that to shaniqua, would she think it's cheating? >> probably. >> stephanie: i was going to say, come on now. >> stephanie: all right. the nearly cooked weiner. >> we have an amazing staff. it isn't about the people working on the campaign. it is about the people working for. >> all right. >> stephanie: town hall or something? >> this is on the street. >> stephanie: i thought it was at an event. >> it was on the street. >> so he's a freak on the street and in the bed. >> had i conducted myself in the manner in which you conducted yours, my job would have been gone. >> stephanie: oh, nice shoes. what kind of shoes are those? i would like to bend you over -- [ buzzer ]

>> stephanie: oh, heavens. david axelrod on "meet the press" talking about the cooked weiner. >> at this point, it is absurd. he won't be the next mayor of new york. he's wasting time and space and you asked at the beginning, you know, americans believe in second chances but not third chances. and you asked at the beginning when will voters say enough. i remember an old song from the 1970s that i loved called "how can i miss you when you won't go away." i think they think it's time for him to go away. >> stephanie: yeah, didn't he just send out an e-mail friday saying i won't quit on you. new yorkers never quit. oh, dear! >> oh, my god! >> sometimes he should. >> stephanie: particularly after the grandma face from nancy pelosi. when she gives you the grandmother face -- >> disappointed! >> stephanie: when she got the gavel. she was like uh-huh. >> the conduct of some of these people that we're talking about

here is reprehensible. it is so disrespectful of women and what's really stunning about that is they don't even realize it. they don't have a clue. >> stephanie: that's what i mean. weiner's statement about i don't know, who knows what other people think. everyone thinks it is inappropriate! what do you mean? >> she was also talking about filner. >> stephanie: i know. he ought to resign, too. it is ridiculous. i'm going to go for a two-week course. okay. there he is. billy bass. >> entering a behavior counseling clinic clinic to undo weeks of intensive therapy to begin the process of addressing my behavior. >> stephanie: i'm sorry. i overstated. i said two months. it only takes two weeks. >> to begin the process. >> to undo 70 years of behavior. >> to think about -- >> stephanie: sort of like a chic center for perviness. don't do that.

>> that thing you just said, don't say that again. no more headlocks? >> no. >> stephanie: he'll reach out to touch women. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: don't do that! >> i don't think they've said chicks anymore. >> stephanie: maybe they'll bring it back to him. those are the only kind of things that would work that quickly. some sort of electroshock. here! and this here. [ buzzer ] >> oh! ahh! >> stephanie: he becomes the -- what do you call it? aversion therapy wax vac guy. >> ow! ow ow! [ laughter ] >> stephanie: here's the good news we can always count on. candidates being even more awful. >> okay. >> because we have some awful ones. >> stephanie: sarah palin who had some thoughts.

on the 2008 campaign. all of us cannot really get enough. really want to hear more of her post-mortem as to what happened. in the landslide that she caused. can i just say a lot of times we joke about her word salad but this time, i have to say i have no idea what the [ bleep ] she's talking about. >> i read that. >> stephanie: i know. >> i sent it to you and i hope stephanie understands this because i really didn't. >> stephanie: no. >> okay. >> stephanie: i've said before, it is like a scrabble board exploded. they are english words presumably in sentences. they don't really -- >> it is more -- those magnetic poetry things exploded. they are full words. >> just throw them in the refrigerator and see what comes out. >> stephanie: it is the first time i was like is this english? all right. give me some sarah palin music. >> okay. >> stephanie: okay. the first starts okay.

governor -- former governor -- i say governor. that's funny! then i quit right in the middle of the sentence. >> quotation marks. >> stephanie: former alaska governor sarah palin said she was banned from certain talking points while running alongside john mccain. palin criticized the media for ingratiating themselves with obama and visa versey. and trying to destroy these whistle-blowers who are talking about controversial pastor jeremiah wright. oh, you moron. those are not whistle-blowers. they're idiots. for god's sakes. that's a whistle-blower? everybody knows that was his -- >> i know. all right. >> stephanie: palin blamed elitists, those who are the bain yaks in -- the brainiacs -- i guess compared to her -- >> my cat is a brainiac. >> stephanie: the g.o.p.

machine running john mccain's campaign for saying the media would eat us alive if she touched upon those issues. here's the part that's not really -- what it got us was a list of the scandals. i guess she's referring to all of the nonscandals that have gone nowhere, benghazi and i.r.s. palin said about the self-censoring done by mccain's campaign, this is kind of a redneck version of one of those elitist tactics of karl rove, how he uses his white board. this is a redneck version of a white board. >> she held up a white board. on this list of scandals that are destroying america. okay. seriously? what the [ bleep ] do you have any idea what she's talking about? a redneck version. >> she held up a white board like karl rove's. she said this is a redneck version because she's a redneck. >> stephanie: of the elitist tactics. >> okay, they're fighting amongst each other which is really awesome.

>> stephanie: that is the awesome. i didn't even understand her point exactly. i see. she was taking a swipe at karl rove and the other elitists. >> okay. that's what that was. >> stephanie: got it. now it all makes sense. it is so much better when it has to be explained. >> the elitists who know how to talk english good, structure sentence in order right. words. put together. >> stephanie: i would never get the chance to interview her. what the [ bleep ] are you saying? >> when over cheese. >> cheese? [ applause ] >> just random words. >> stephanie: okay. all right. so that happened. 17 minutes after the hour. oh, i have a great hate letter. >> oh, really? >> stephanie: yes. >> i'll get our hate letter music ready. >> stephanie: our usual mondays, rude pundit and eric boehlert as we continue on "the stephanie miller show." >> what did you have for breakfast this morning? carnation instant bitch?

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>> knocked up like a douche. >> stephanie: 1-800-steph-12 the phone number. christine in cleveland on sarah palin. hello, christine. >> caller: good morning, monday. >> stephanie: good morning. >> caller: yes, i think she was on greta and her redneck version of the rove thing was an 11x13 white envelope with a little flap sticking up and i thought why wasn't she just using her hand? she graduated to a white envelope for the redneck version. >> stephanie: she's basically the carrot top of the republican party. >> for sure. she can go on to comedy at any moment. she should give fuglesang a holler. by the way, did you see fuglesang on ed? >> stephanie: i did not. >> so handsome and romantic. >> stephanie: i just is! squee! >> he was on the did show. -- he was on the eddie show. >> stephanie: now i get it.

such accessible humor to everybody. what? >> at least she didn't use her hand. she's done that before. >> stephanie: okay. my hate letter. very brief. subject line just miller show. >> oh, boy. >> stephanie: which right away, you know. you really must try very hard to be an idiot. >> stephanie: not really. kind of comes naturally. lol. go listen to mark levine and learn something. >> anyone who knows stephanie miller, knows she has no audience. he's been up-and-coming for 20 years. she's sarcastic and left point. >> stephanie: perhaps i can learn how to tone down my sarcasm by listening to mark levine. >> i hate people who are sarcastic. >> stephanie: maybe i can learn how to be popular. >> stephanie miller. one of the most popular and funny liberal radio hosts in the country. >> we should listen to mark levine more. >> if you want your eardrums to bleed. >> stephanie: or sandblast your pool or something.

just sayin'. >> as long as you're not sarcastic. >> stephanie: right. all right. so thanks for that. oh, that's from william. >> hi, william. hi, bill. [ applause ] >> is that a nazi reference? >> of course not. >> stephanie: only 25 minutes into the show. [ speaking foreign language ] >> that was a hitler reference. i heard the word furor in there. >> i said i hadn't mentioned the furor at all. >> stephanie: all right. so lots more to get to. by the by, you know what, the pope -- i like the way he's poping, frankly. >> i kind of do, too, shockingly. >> stephanie: the far right doesn't like how popey he is. >> he is far less popey. >> which makes me think that something is up. >> stephanie: meaning? >> i don't know. something funny is going on. i don't know.

he's too good. >> stephanie: funny how? >> you mean like a clown? to amuse you? >> there's something coming that we're not going to like. >> stephanie: like the pope at the copacabana? ♪ his name is francis ♪ he is -- ♪ with a big hat on his hair and those red shoes way down there ♪ ♪ while he has to be a star, this pope doesn't go too far ♪ ♪ he has a humble plan ♪ he is new and has a mass ♪ it is the pope fest ♪ copacabana ♪ he's the pope -- popea cabana ♪ ♪ at the pope a --

>> stephanie: thank you, rocky mountain mike. [ applause ] trisha in spokane, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, trish. >> hi, stephanie. i just wanted to know, do you think the far right has anymore -- because they keep letting this woman speak if they have a small amount left, they should use it to shut her up because every time she speaks, my brain goes numb. it is a horrifying thing. i'm telling you. >> stephanie: i'm glad fox rehired her and she's the voice of the republican party right now. >> caller: oh, listen, it is comedy at its best. i'm all for that. good lord. >> stephanie: good god, y'all. actually, i hope the g.o.p. does not need john avalon's piece in the -- [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] >> well then don't tell them about it. >> stephanie: well, you know, i'm a helper. i can't help myself.

but he writes about pope francis. the g.o.p. could learn a lot from how pope francis dealt with entrenched interests because he's being tenting. >> he kind of is. >> stephanie: the new pope hasn't been afraid to challenge the entrenched interests that have sullied his church's perception. his style of reaching out might save the republican party. the humble pontiff is reinvigorating catholic church after a time of scandal of threatening powerful interests. the good news is they won't do any of this. you know what i'm saying. [ applause ] >> stephanie: i think it is safe to give them good advice. >> stephanie: gone are the palatial apartments and red prada slippers, a reemphasis on heart and humility. the neophyte pope seems popular with everyone except the right wing of his own church. sounds like a little war going on in the republican party. >> sure. >> wearing chuck taylors instead of the red shoes.

>> stephanie: that would be funny and cute. the example pope francis, might be lessons for the modern g.o.p. as they seek to redead rate their own institution. have you checked out the man fight between paul and christie? it is the awesome -- i said on cnn friday, boys, boys, don't fight. you're both pretty and you will both get crushed by hillary clinton. >> ram is not in christie's weight division. >> stephanie: more interesting stuff in here about how the pope is poping. it would be a good lesson if the republican party were open to -- what's the word i'm looking for? sanity. >> sure. >> but they're not. 29 minutes after the hour. back with that and rude pundit next on "the stephanie miller show."

you must be high. >> i think the number one thing that viewers like about "the young turks" is that we're honest. i think the audience gets that i actually mean it. >> you're putting out there something that you're proud of. journalists want the the story and they want the right story and the want the true story. >> you can say anything here. >> i spent a couple of hours with a hooker. >> your mistake was writing a check. >> she never cashed it! >> the war room. >> compared to other countries with tighter gun safety laws, our death toll is just staggering. >> the young turks. >> the top bankers who funneled all the money to the drug lords, there's just no justice in that. >> viewpoint. >> carl rove said today that mitt romney is a lock to win next pope. he's garunteeing it. >> joy behar: say anything. >> is the bottom line then that no white person should ever, ever, ever use the "n" word? >> yes! >> only on current tv.

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>> announcer: stephanie miller. >> looks like somebody had a rough night out. >> boy, you can say that again. better get the coroner down here. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: it is the -- >> i've been to those parties. >> stephanie: it is the "the stephanie miller show." 34 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. >> lee papa, the rude pundit. ♪ pundit ♪ ooh, papa, papa, who >> stephanie: hello rudeness and new yorker extraordinaire. >> good morning, yeah, i'm sitting here on the streets of the south street seaport. i feel like i just woke up on this stoop i'm sitting on.

>> oh, no. >> stephanie: i'll bet it is pungent. >> oh, it is. it is actually funny i'm here considering what rand paul said yesterday. did you hear this? he talked about people -- he was going back to chris christie for his attack on paul's foreign policy and then paul says the people that are bankrupting this country are people like the ones that are saying gimme, gimme, gimme my sandy money. and the south street seaport still hasn't recovered from sandy. and you know, major tourist area that's been closed ever since sandy. so, you know, basically, screw rand paul. >> stephanie: exactly. the more interesting thing as i was saying, this is a real -- everybody's starting to talk about this. that's the real split now in the republican party, right? this sort of tea party libertarian streak that's now fighting what's left of the neocons, right? >> oh, yeah, totally.

you know, the fact that it's coming down over things like privacy, i mean that's the place where, of course, liberals cross over with the libertarians then the libertarians take this position where it's great to hear republican attacking republican for saying that, you know, you're damaging the security of america. it's like ooh, let's sit back and get popcorn. >> stephanie: right. then you've got -- what's cantaloupe man's name? of iowa. >> steve king of iowa. >> stephanie: right. >> stunning steve king. >> stephanie: you have boner coming out and saying -- condemning his remarks and then he started talking again, right and saying oh, no, they agree with me. they just won't say so in public. >> right. i love that he said it is factually correct, what i said. that there are drug mules. well, you know, no crap, you know. yes, we know there's drug mules. but you know what? for every valedictorian, there's probably 100 other people

working in the fields or doing the gardening work for probably many representatives in the republican party. >> stephanie: yeah. i love what you wrote. you said republican steve king looks like every white person's beleaguered uncle who comes home from his job selling washing machines at sears, ticked off at everyone who couldn't get their credit approved. turns on fox news, drinks cheap whiskey and yells at the tv about how these racial slur and n words are ruining the nation. exactly what he looks like. that guy. >> it is. looks like the sweaty guy on the simpson, the one that's sort of the jack lemon. [ laughter ] >> i got it closed. i got it closed. >> stephanie: you point out that rude pundit has not spent as much time as he should contemplating the sexy brown rounded legs of latinos. steve king apparently has.

>> the new republic actually put out a picture because there was actually in -- i can't remember if it was in kentucky or someplace where they actually stopped a truck that had 75 pounds worth of marijuana which -- he said guys strap 75 pounds of marijuana to their legs and that gives them cantaloupe calves but the problem is marijuana is very light and so 75 pounds of marijuana is a lot of bags of marijuana! it is piles and piles -- you would have to have a marijuana suit crossing the desert made of plastic bags. >> stephanie: i have cantaloupe calves put it is from spinning as far as i know, not from drug running. >> sure. >> stephanie: that's my story. now, rude, by the way, so what do you think is going to happen on immigration because this is the other fight they're fighting among themselves. >> well, it is funny. there are several people who have said that steve king may have ended up providing the push

that republicans need in the house to say whoa! we don't want to be like that guy! and actually pass something. so you know, that's the most optimistic spin i've heard is like when the crazies finally show their true colors, you have to decide are you with them or not. and hopefully that's what pushes a lot of them to go against the steve kings. >> stephanie: yeah. rude, i thought i was the only one whose friend had sent them the picture of pennsylvania police chief mark kessler. >> mark kessler, yeah. >> stephanie: that's been going around. someone sent it to me. the police chief in pennsylvania, check out. he has a youtube channel, right? >> yeah. he has video after video of himself ranting about lip towards, that's a quote. >> a lot of shooting of weapons. and it is like dude, you know,

there is this one -- i have the picture on the blog. there is this moment where he's holding this gun that's got this -- it is a pistol that's got a rounded, large magazine below it. and he's got it lithe like right at mid-level and for all of the world, genitals, shooting away. >> stephanie: his latest piece is entitled i'm sorry for hurting feelings. and you say -- you finish by saying we should thank chief kessler for his logical to make brutally clear he's a. [ buzzer ] coward who hides behind bullets. you really have to watch it to appreciate it. >> it is really sad. he's sitting there. he does this little video, this song and dance apology like you know, i'm sorry some of you were upset about what i said and then he walks off-screen. it is just dead air. just dead air for like five seconds then he comes back on with this semi-automatic ak-47,

automatic k -- ak-47. he said no, i don't play that. then starts cursing at people that condemned him and just firing at nothing. >> stephanie: right. >> i'm pretty sure the nra is kind of against -- if you actually read nra stuff, i don't think that's actually responsible gun ownership right there. just shooting at nothing at the air, oh, who cares, whatever is in the way. >> stephanie: i have to say it is my favorite rendition of saying [ bleep ] you because he draws out the -- >> oh, yeah. [ bleep ] you. >> stephanie: he's precious. >> he is. i would be so proud to be somebody living in gilbertson, pennsylvania, which, of course, is in the alabama section of pennsylvania. >> the pencil tuckee area. >> pennsylvania's pittsburgh and

philadelphia with alabama in the middle. >> stephanie: and yet another mass shooting right in miami this weekend. and you draw our attention to -- you say chances are you never heard or gave a jolly rat's [ bleep ] about the buckeye firearms foundation but now they will forever be known as the group of [ bleep ] he want to buy george zimmerman a new gun. >> yep. they raised $12,000 and gave it to zimmerman. >> stephanie: that's awesome. you say they're not only rearming a known killer in florida. they're also making sure that teachers in ohio receive in the words of the [ bleep ] soul sucking attorney for them, ken hanson, active killer training. they're raising $100,000 to train hundreds of teachers to carry weapons and be able to shoot shooters in cross classroom shoot-out that no doubt will end with everyone fine in the first grade art class. a splendid idea. >> if you go to the blog of that

organization, it's again this crazy amount of gun-toting pride. everybody went silent. very dramatic. everybody went silent when i announced what our initiative was going to be and they were stunned that we would do this but by the end, everybody was standing and applauding. it was like you know, morgan freeman just gave a speech rousing everybody to action, you know. it was independent day -- it was independence day or something. it is crazy. so their job is to arm and they need what's -- thousands and thousands of bullets to do these courses. and that's why they need $100,000. >> stephanie: oi, oi, oi. that's all i can say. your weiner, is it nearly cooked in new york? the mayor's race? >> yeah, yeah. i think that weiner is going to be -- well, i think he's probably turtling by now.

and we won't be seeing -- we won't be seeing him poking his head out any time soon. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: his campaign manager just quit. do you think he will actually get out? obviously the calls are -- >> i really hope so. although i will stand by until the end of time that what i think is actually going on is that he and his wife have this kinky foreplaything where it is like come on, anthony, get sexty with somebody. this could only get creepier if i go on. >> stephanie: i think we'll leave that there. >> yes. don't post a picture of yourself. yeah, anthony, that's great! >> stephanie: eww. >> it's real good, anthony. >> i love that it's before 7:00 a.m. out where you are and this is what people are hearing. >> stephanie: yeah, because at least you warned us. at least you called your thing the rude pundit so there. >> right.

so there you go. i think it is all -- i think that's the speech anthony weiner should have made. my wife and i have this thing we like to do. it's private, it is consensual. i apologize to the women that got caught up in it. hey, a man's got to do what a man's got to do. >> stephanie: there you go. he's the campaign manager. >> i could write him some speeches. >> oh, yes, you could! >> stephanie: love you. see you next week, honey. there he goes, his rudeness. roman in new york on the weiner. hello, roman. >> caller: hi, steph and crew, how you doing? >> hi, roman. >> caller: i'm disappointed yet disgusted in weiner and yet at the same time i think he would an better mayor than christine quinn. >> stephanie: really? >> caller: i'm disappoint and disgusted. if you are going to take a picture of your man scape, you make sure you trim. >> stephanie: not enough

manscaping. >> he snapshot that stuff. >> stephanie: that's your main concern. >> he would be a better mayor than christine quinn because christine quinn is nothing but bloomberg's henchman. she's the one that got bloomberg a third term against the will of the vote. that's why i really don't like her. >> stephanie: hmm. she's way ahead in the latest poll, right? >> caller: true. but this came out now -- this coming out now be may be a good thing. if weiner doesn't pull out, it might blow over and new yorkers will say okay, he had a sex thing and everybody is focused on it now. >> stephanie: he has more entertainment value, that's for sure. can we say maybe weiner will pull out and this will blow over. did he just say that? >> he said that. [ ♪ circus ] >> weiner should have used

snapshot. you know what it is? >> stephanie: no. >> you can send a message to someone else on snap chat. it stays for six seconds then it is gone forever. >> stephanie: it hard deletes itself. >> should have used that. it is what the kids are using nowadays so mom and dad don't see what they're doing. >> stephanie: too late now. 46 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> i don't get it. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show."

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mony, mony ♪ >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 51 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. eric boehlert from media matters coming up on the big show. mary in michigan, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, mar. >> caller: el with, hi, steph, thanks for taking my call. good morning to the mooks as well. i just had to reply to steve king if you would give me about 15 seconds. >> stephanie: all right. >> caller: so while occasionally we may -- public servants such as bernie sanders or -- for each one of them, 20 split pea brains self-serving corporate prostitutes manage to pull 180 on their campaign promises or continue down the trail of amnesia in spite of public sentiments on many issues such as gun control and jobs. >> stephanie: right. yep. absolutely.

>> caller: so anyway, that's all i wanted to say. >> stephanie: jim, you notice something, was that a hate letter to you or a general gun nut letter? there are a lot of caps and -- >> i can't find it now. something about the zimmerman case. yeah, just exclamation marks and caps and do you not have any idea what the law is? >> oh, god, i hate that. >> stephanie: like that police chief in central pennsylvania. >> at least they didn't use different colored fonts for words to emphasize. >> stephanie: so you know which are the really important ones. she was talking about steve king. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] steve king claims the g.o.p. privately agrees with his cantaloupes comment but they're afraid of repercussions. >> by cantaloupes. >> stephanie: right. afraid of drive by fruiting. >> other melons might gang up on him, too. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] >> honeydews are notorious. >> stephanie: steve king fired back at g.o.p. critics on fox news arguing his statement most

immigrant were drug dealers with calves the size of cantaloupes which is actually right. claiming many of the republicans publicly bashing his comments were agreeing with him. what do critics have to say about the number or the description? they have no hands on, no eyes on experience. they don't have any data. i'm factually right and they're offended by the reality because they have an agenda. as you know, prominent republicans like boehner and cantor had denounced king's comments. >> where did king get his quote-unquote facts? >> stephanie: i don't know. did he also once suggest electrifying the border fence because it works for the farm animals on his farm? in iowa. okay. and there goes the rest. >> and the cantaloupe vote. of. >> stephanie: exactly. by the way, could you take your organ out for me? >> right away. >> stephanie: i was saying i hope -- we were talking about the pope and how he's poping.

which i am -- apparently for some people, he's not poping correctly. i think it's good. john avalon writes a piece about the g.o.p. could learn a lot from pope francis. let's hope they do not take a lesson from him. he's an unapologetic believer in building a big tent. he's talking about stuff that jesus -- [ cuckoo clock chimes ] >> hammering home his inclusive vision, john writes pope francis says that atheists might enter heaven through good works. this caused bill maher to say the pope is obviously an atheist. he was just being inclusive of atheists. in his first month, he chose not to speak about the church's position on polarizing social issues like abortion or gay marriage. he has emphasized core elements of the gospel like combating poverty. what? >> stephanie: when did jesus talk about that? administering to the sick and downtrodden. >> where does he get that crazy stuff? >> stephanie: he washed the feet of women, muslim women.

>> what? >> stephanie: john writes much of the modern republican party seems content preaching to a smaller and smaller choir. >> smaller, smaller and quieter. >> stephanie: they seem unfairly or not more concerned with what had been the heart, the power of tax cuts that takes the place of alternative plans or expand the ranks of the middle class. a recent nbc "wall street journal" poll found 22% of americans believe the g.o.p. is interested in unifying the country versus 45% who see the same with obama. anyway, avalon finishes by saying beyond the realm of theology, there are powerful political lessons to be drawn from the inspirational few months. the good news is the republican party will have nothing. it will continue to have man fights between, you know, chris christie, rand paul. >> we'll sit back and watch and sell tickets. >> stephanie: and eat popcorn because they've got the -- now, you have the neocons, the sort of established g.o.p. and the tea party so now it is a three-way fight. fight, fight!

[ applause ] >> stephanie: and then every now and again, you have talk since. -- talk sense. senator richard burr not known for talking sense generally, republican of north carolina strongly rejected an effort to shut down the federal government if obamacare isn't defunded. he said this is the dumbest idea i've ever heard of. >> thank you, sir. >> stephanie: this is a real thing. it has the support of at least 15 republican senators. more than 60 house republicans signed a letter to speaker boner urging g.o.p. leadership to take the same stand. he said i think it is the dumbest idea i've heard of. as long as barack obama's president, the affordable care act will be law. this is like their last ditch desperation thing to try to stop obamacare. it is incredible. burr is not the only republican to reject his colleagues' approach. senator roy blunt refused to support the idea while john mccain warned the american people won't allow for another

round of g.o.p.-led debt ceiling and government shutdowns shenanigans. >> right. grampy busted out the shenanigans. representative tom cole, republican of oklahoma says there are appropriate ways to deal with the law but shutting down the government to get your way over an unrelated piece of legislation is the equivalent of throwing a temper tantrum. it creates a backlash and could cost the republicans the majority in the house. that would be a good outcome. they were here last time they shut the government down and lost a zillion seats when clinton was in office. >> a zillion? >> stephanie: roughly. i'm rounding up. i'm not a pollster by trade. you may be surprised to know. 58 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show."

>> stephanie: all righty then. here we are, hour number two, current tv land. jacki schechner. >> yes? >> stephanie: i was wondering if we might book you right after this to talk about -- they were saying we were talking about them trying to do a government shutdown to defund affordable care act. isn't that the best idea they've had yet? >> yeah, let's talk about it. >> stephanie: let's do it. >> let's do it. >> let's do it. >> stephanie: yeah. just when you think they will not -- how many times are we up to repealing the law? >> i don't understand.

i think it is 38 times they've voteded so far. it is an obsession. >> a zillion. >> it is this strange obsession. i'm not sure i understand why. >> stephanie: we'll also talk about the peivey men currently in the news, about the weiner filners of the world. the little chick talk. >> obsession with their own -- >> stephanie: here she is, jacki schechner. >> good morning, everybody. one new jersey-based pro gun group is promoting a contest in which one possible prize is a firearm that's illegal to own in the state of new jersey. this ad is for the stop the gun control madness gun give away hosted on the firearms policy coalition web site. it reads that the winner can choose from one of three guns including the sixth hour m400 enhanced rifle with a 30-round magazine, a threaded barrel and a folding stock, all illegal in jersey. to enter, contestants have to register with the coalition and send a form letter to governor chris christie opposing gun

control legislation. well, the sweepstakes is sponsored by a group called the california association of federal firearms licensees but that group is just one of several member organizations of this larger firearms policy coalition and another member group is the new jersey second amendment society. it is confusing but essentially one group is promoting this entire contest and it is allowing people to possibly win a gun that's illegal in jersey. the web site says all federal, state, local and municipal laws apply to the contest. nothing on the flier itself indicates a limitation on the contest winner's choices. in other news, secretary of state john kerry hosting an israeli and palestinian negotiators tonight and tomorrow in washington, d.c. he's trying to revive the stalled peace negotiations between the two sides. here's kerry about ten days ago in jordan announcing plans to restart talks. palestinians want their future state to hold the borders in place before israel gained territory in 1967.

it is a proposition israel refuses. we're back after the break. criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do

care about them right?

>> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that

current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv. ♪ it's a beautiful day ♪ don't let it get away >> stephanie: this hour brought to you by identity guard making it okay to trust again. go to identityguard.com. anthony weiner. six minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. all right, our little friend's back in town. very exciting. >> back from a wedding. >> stephanie: not her. ♪ come on get jacki

>> stephanie: there she is. >> wouldn't buy a dress any time soon. that goes for you, too, chris. >> thanks. >> stephanie: so, i guess it's not fairly incredible what the republicans will do to try to stop affordable care act, right? >> it is an amazing default obsession. let it go! just please let it go! >> stephanie: but they won't. there is gathering support of republicans for shutting down the government in order to defund obamacare. they see this as their lost stop before affordable care act is actually enacted. >> they're trying to take away money so they can't put the programs in place. it is so stupid. i think it was -- "the new york times" asked the president what are you going to do to help make healthcare reform more popular. he said we're going to implement it. it is really thatcism. these are things that people

want and need. i wish republican lawmakers would stop obsessing over the political gamesmanship and start taking a look at the actual policies that will do a lot of good for a lot of people. >> it is basically bob dole's plan. >> right. anyone who is obsessed with the policy of it should take a look at what it is. we're essentially giving -- want to be outraged? we're giving subsidies to private insurance companies. be outraged about that. >> stephanie: i think eric boehlert tweeted about we're seeing again, more and more states where premiums are going down. >> people what talk about free market rules and how we should allow companies to compete. that's what the exchanges are doing. insurance companies have such a huge monopoly. as opposed to competing to see if they can be drive down prices. the exchanges are forcing people to participate to bring their costs down because we're finally starting to take a look at what things actually cost for should

cost. and it is starting to bring things more in line with a reasonable premium level. >> we have an amazing staff of people working on the campaign. >> stephanie: apparently he offered several women a position on his staff. over the weekend. because his campaign manager quit. what do you think? is he going to stay in? >> i think it is dwindling. he'll try to save face by staying in as long as possible but what a waste. it is so narcissistic and so unbelievably out of town. i don't know. i mean -- maybe there is a shot but i mean to drop 9 points that quickly to have your campaign manager quit. his campaign manager quit because he lied to him. then what about the allegations -- not the allegations but the news reports he spent $40,000 of campaign funds investigating what he knew was a lie?

they spent all of the money investigating who hacked his twitter account when he knew nobody hacked his twitter account. that was his initial response when people said what are these photos. he said i didn't send them. my account was hacked. >> stephanie: interestingly, i got a lot of e-mail about your comments last week. you were hard on huma and a lot of people were like -- i heard from a lot of women that of course have been in all kinds of different situations and don't judge until you've been there and yada, yada. obviously, you could tell on the sunday shows, a lot of people in washington, really like her. and feel bad for her. but you stand by your comments that she's complicit in some way? >> well, yeah. there's two parts to this, right. i don't know her personally. i do know she is well-known and well liked in d.c. circles film and i do think the media has a bias. >> they know her personally. >> i think they're unable to detach themselves. i was on a plane yesterday and

able to watch -- unable to watch a lot of the morning tv i usually watch on sundays but i do know there is a particular bias in reporting from what i've seen in the week past because they know her and like her. the second part of this, i want to make this very clear, you can choose to do whatever you want in your own marriage. i can't judge her choices because if she chooses to stay with him, that's her choice. i think what he's done to her is horrible and disrespectful. if it were me, i would have walked away but i'm not in that marriage. i can't make that decision. what i have a problem with is people calling her brave and strong for staying. people who are qualifying her decision to stay as something that's beneficial. something that is good. and casting it in a positive light. i don't think a woman should be judged on how much disrespect she's willing to tolerate. >> stephanie: i think that what a lot of people talk about is the baby is obviously a significant issue. >> you want that man raising

your child? certainly not the role model i want for my child. >> stephanie: i'm a childless looser. >> i wouldn't want you raising any child. >> you know what i mean. is a home with a man who i find disrespectful to women and dismissive of women and especially disrespectful to the woman who he is supposed to be most respectful of, his wife, not a particularly solid male role model. but at the same time, again, she can choose to do whatever she wants in her personal life. i have no qualifications to pass judgment on that. but what i'm passing judgment on is how other people are defining her decision to stay. i don't think it makes her strong or brave or admirable in any way. i think it makes her pathetic. >> stephanie: now i feel bad for her because chuck grassley, did you see this? senator grassley is demanding more answers from her. she's gotten -- you know, she's gotten shrapnel before all of

this before -- all of the crazy people like michele bachmann talking about the muslim brotherhood. >> that's absurd. >> stephanie: yeah. so he's -- he's saying she provided what she's calling insufficient information about her consulting work for the state department. and again, i don't know whether this is now because they smell blood in the water. but now i feel bad for her. this woman really is going to have a nervous breakdown. it is sad. >> let's not discount her own free will here. she married him. she chose to stay with him after all of the scandals broke. she chose to stand up at the podium. she chose to make the announcement. she's chosen to be on the campaign trail. we live in a society where this woman has every right to make her own decisions and choice. if she didn't want to be in the public eye and she didn't want to participate in this, there are certain ways -- look at jenny sanford, for example. she bowed out. there are certain ways to get yourself out of the situation. if you choose to. she didn't have to do anything. anyone who said she had to do something is discounting her ability to make her own choices.

that in and of itself is disrespectful. >> stephanie: mark sanford, sked her to be his campaign manager. >> love that. >> stephanie: that was a big no. >> men should start a club where they feed off each other. >> stephanie: don't you wish you could have been be on that call. she said said are you [ bleep ] high? >> for a lot of people, it makes that kind of -- in order to run for high office like that. >> it is part of the personality disorder. i don't know if you saw it, i think it was jezebel that had a great article about when is it appropriate to send pictures of your private areas? and it was all of the scenarios. the answer to all of them is never. there is no scenario under which it is okay to send that picture to anybody. >> unless it is your urologist maybe. >> does this look infected? >> or at least use snapshot. >> don't do it at all.

i don't know any woman who is like i saw that picture and made me want to get on it! >> stephanie: that is awesome. >> it doesn't work for us that way. >> stephanie: now we have mayor bob down in san diego. here's -- did you hear him this weekend? here we go. here is mayor billy bass. >> i will be entering a behavior counseling clinic to undergo two weeks of intensive therapy to begin the process of addressing my behavior. >> two whole weeks. >> stephanie: that will do it. >> you can't even prep for the s.a.t.s in two weeks. [ laughter ] what kind of behavioral therapy can you go et in two weeks? >> i'll have five minutes of therapy. >> all right. that didn't take. >> stephanie: we were saying though, a lot of people have made the point, what is it about these republican guys, look at vitter. they never get out. obviously everybody is saying weiner and this guy ought to get out. right? >> oh, yeah. i haven't been following this one as closely. that sounds awful. [ laughter ]

but it's just bad behavior all the way around. i think bill press wrapped up and said you don't say this from women. no, we don't say this. we don't behave this way. >> stephanie: at what point in his life, did he say a headlock, that will turn the chicks on! >> chicks dig it! >> stephanie: did that work with somebody? >> it must have, right? >> stephanie: because to call it the filner headlock, that must have been the thing. >> it is learned behavior. like that's going to turn the chicks on. maybe we need to start -- maybe we need to make money on the side by holding a seminar. things that don't work with women. >> stephanie: you and i can teach that. >> i think warren harding tried it in the 20s. >> taft tried it. >> stephanie: he was too doughy to accomplish a headlock. all right. >> online profile will be saying seeking pictures of your junk and headlock. >> stephanie: all right. see you back in the news booth. >> you got it. >> stephanie: love ya, bye.

brenda in mobile, you're on "the stephanie miller show." welcome. >> caller: hello. >> stephanie: brenda in the thing that is not the thing that hangs above a baby's crib. >> caller: hello. >> stephanie: go ahead. >> caller: hey, i'm sorry but i was just listening to you guys and i am just absolutely baffled by all of this. the lady that you were just talking to? >> stephanie: jacki schechner. >> caller: okay. well, she is so judgmental and i guess you guys have exonerated miss clinton, the goddess of whatever of apologists and i guess -- i watched you guys friday and thursday. just give her all of the praise and say oh, how she's different and -- >> stephanie: they were. a lot of people, brenda wrote piece about how this is different. anthony weiner has nowhere near the accomplishments that bill clinton did.

>> caller: because it is not different. cheating is cheating. infidelity is infidelity. embarrassing your wife is embarrassing your wife. so i'm not quite sure how this is all of a sudden so different because he did it before he ran for president. he did it when he was a governor. so all of this -- so hillary stays. so all of a sudden, now miss schechner, whatever her name is, got a big problem. i'm going to see how she is with hillary. >> i agree with you, brenda. >> stephanie: what do you mean? >> i do. how is hillary -- different from huma? >> stephanie: we talked about this all last week. to compare bill clinton with anthony weiner, i think is ridiculous. >> because bill clinton had a twinkle in his eye. >> stephanie: no. because he was a great president. this was a taxpayer-funded witch-hunt against him, an investigation into his personal life. the american people roundly rejected it. >> he still did it. and hillary still stood by her man. >> stephanie: it is totally different than this.

>> i don't know about that. >> stephanie: you're just saying that to get phone calls. >> no, i'm not. i really agree with that. >> stephanie: no, you don't. >> yes, i do. >> stephanie: 18 minutes after the hour. >> don't tell me what i agree and don't agree with. >> stephanie: right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: call stephanie now. she's easy. 1-800-steph-12.

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coming up it he top of the hour. 1-800-steph-12 toll free from anywhere. terry in florida. >> caller: hello. it is actually gerry, not terry. i wanted to make a point about the whole difference between weiner and clinton. my feeling is that bill clinton didn't make his issues public. other people did. it was between him and hillary. not between the whole world. you know. it is hillary's decision whether to leave him or not. >> stephanie: we said that last week to. me, that was one of the key things, as i said last week many times and just now to chris', this was a taxpayer funded witch-hunt. anthony weiner did this to himself. >> yes, did he. that's exactly what my point was. he texted out his private parts. he made it a public issue. it wasn't a public issue by anybody else. he made it that way himself.

>> stephanie: yeah. >> i think the judgment of the wives, it is not our place to decide what they should have done. >> stephanie: gerry, i do feel uncomfortable with that part. i feel uncomfortable judging for anybody else. >> unless we're in that situation, we can't determine what the right thing to do is. some people do deserve a second chance. >> stephanie: the other thing is in that position, the first time -- i can't speak for now but the first time, if i had a baby on the way, i probably would have made the same decision. >> oh, myself, too. you're developing your own problems by choosing to leave or choosing not to and it is up to you whether to make the problems or not. >> stephanie: i can say that because my having a baby is so fictional because my eggs -- just saying. i'm just saying theoretically. let's see.

janet in madison, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, janet. >> caller: hey, steph. >> stephanie: hey. >> caller: it just makes me angry every time this issue comes up, why do people blame the wives for their husband's infidelities. >> nobody's blaming the wife. >> stephanie: i don't think that was jacki's point. she's talking about other people calling her brave for staying. >> caller: no, that lady that called in that was criticizing jacki saying you know, we're glorifying hillary. nobody's glorifying hillary because she stayed with bill clinton. you know. it is nobody's business. that's their marriage. they decide how to work it out. not us. but every time, if a woman decides to stay with her husband, people get angry at her. that speaks volumes about their own insecurities in their own marriage. >> stephanie: the other part -- the zeitgeist at that time is you had these hypocrites like newt gingrich that were on their third or whatever wife they were on, criticizing the

clintons for deciding to stay in their first marriage, whatever its flaws, right? >> caller: exactly. you know what? i am not a huge hillary fan. i think he's a brilliant woman. i like a lot of things about her. i chose obama over her in the last election because i felt that he was a better candidate. >> stephanie: yep. >> caller: but there's such hatred for hillary out there. it is ridiculous. it is almost as rabid as the obama hatred. >> stephanie: we'll get clinton derangement syndrome part two if she runs as everybody is expecting. >> jacki said i have not said one word about clinton. my thoughts are on huma and weiner and their relations. she would like to make that clarification. >> stephanie: pete in chicago. you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: how you doing? chris, i gotta agree with you, man. >> stephanie: in what sense? >> caller: for instance, okay,

what -- you are indeed glorifying right now hillary for what she did. >> stephanie: i'm not glorifying her. i'm saying i'm not judging huma either. i'm saying i probably would have made the same decision to stay with him if i had a child on the way. >> actually, right now, you're -- what i'm trying to say right now is this, okay, you're sticking up more for the clintons than you are for weiner. >> stephanie: yes. if you read michael tomasky's piece, you can google it from the "daily beast" last week, i agree with him on how there's just no comparison between the clinton and the weiner situations. >> but their actions. >> caller: bill clinton actually had sex. all weiner did was send pics. >> stephanie: right. but he put it out there himself. he used social media to continue

to keep sending pictures to multiple women. how dumb do you have to be to use social media? it goes to judgment in that sense. to use social media to keep doing that? >> caller: i'm sure if the technology were around, bill clinton would have probably done the same thing. >> stephanie: i don't know about that. i think that -- i think that david axelrod made the point on "meet the press," we'll play it again when we come back. it is what i was saying last week, it wasn't even what's happening in their american, it is him lying to the public saying i have reformed, look at me in "people" magazine with my wife and baby. give me a second chance. >> bill clinton lied to the public, too, before he came clean. >> stephanie: 29 minutes. right back on "the stephanie miller show."

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>> settle the argument, would you? would you say stephanie miller is beautiful or gorgeous? i said beautiful. tim said gorgeous. he said oh, there it is! >> stephanie: it is the "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 34 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. speaking of the -- clintons coming up again because of the weiner coming up or going down. whichever you -- [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] however you see it. president obama will have lunch on monday with former secretary of state hillary clinton. they will have lunch in the president's private dining room. did not give a reason for the

meeting. >> huh. rumor has it that she's going to be talking about a possible presidential run. >> stephanie: okay. >> shocking that. >> stephanie: billy in texas, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, billy. >> caller: guys, did i really hear you say a few minutes ago that there was really a huge difference between what clinton did and what weiner did because weiner hadn't risen to the level of accomplishment that bill clinton had? >> stephanie: there was that. that's one aspect, yes. >> caller: how in the world do you say war on women with a straight face? when you've got a guy like bill clinton who is a serial abuser and you're saying well, it was -- >> stephanie: would you call that abuse or would you call someone like monica willing? >> well, let me put it this way. >> stephanie: you think she was a victim? >> cheated on his wife and his daughter. i don't trust a man who does that and i don't trust a woman who will put up with it. >> stephanie: she didn't cheat on his daughter. >> he cheated on his family.

i don't trust a man who does that or a woman who puts up with it. >> stephanie: so you feel the same way about newt gingrich and arnold schwarzenegger. >> we're not talking about them. >> caller: you said the point about weiner and -- >> do you trust people on your own side. >> stephanie: i'm done this morning. let's go to kevin -- >> it is different when republicans do it. that was his point. >> stephanie: doesn't count. kevin in d.c. you're on "the stephanie miller show". >> caller: get on with someone more important to talk to. lovely stephanie, even a moment i disagree with you, the moment has gotten out of sync but i'm afraid -- i've had this discussion with women often. i must agree with jacki in this particular case. i'm not dissing the woman or anything like that. but i've acted time and time again on the one hand women complain rightfully so about

men's sometimes abhorrent behavior but then they put up with it or they know the guy is a jerk, a mile away and they still get with them. they will pass up ten decent dudes and get with a fool then walk around, men are jerks. well, because you're teaching men that you will put up with anything. >> stephanie: you could say the same thing. the men that -- bitch about gold diggers, stop dating bimbos! >> caller: men -- i slightly disagree in that men don't -- women walk around like these little -- halo over their head. it is horrible. they go after the same gentlemen they complain about or they stay with them year after year after year. the very guy they complain about. if you don't like the behavior, then stop putting up with it. >> stephanie: listen, there is a whole book industry, smart women, foolish choices, bad boys, whatever, blah, blah, blah. [ whatever! ] >> do we agree that at the very

least, not all, not all but there is a significant amount of women who could avoid the situation entirely if they learn not to accept this behavior? when you're going with the situation with a married man, you know he's married and you still get with him, right there, you know he's a jerk and yet you still do it. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: i often don't disagree with you. you're my girl in more ways than ten but since we're still beating the weiner thing to death -- >> stephanie: beating the weiner into submission. >> caller: since we're still beating this weiner thing to death, i just chime in. >> stephanie: i appreciate it. all right. he's so cute. he just talks like that to get laid. jason in d.c. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, jayson. >> caller: i'm going to go with what the other callers are saying. you are intellectually inconsistent. that's your problem in this argument. in terms of overall scope. you're making this case -- what the person's position is.

if anthony -- if bill clinton was a butcher and anthony weiner is running for mayor, then weiner would be the one you're supporting, not the fact of the act itself. the earlier caller pointed out, clinton got with a person. weiner, at least from the evidence we've seen, has not. so at least it is somebody -- >> stephanie: i get that. i get the difference. again, i don't know how many times we can go over what the difference actually was here. look, i went on tv and defended him when he came out and apologized. that's what i said. he's guilty of being in eighth grade. david axelrod was talking about on "meet the press." >> this is absurd. leak the next mayor of new york. he's wasting time and space. and you asked at the beginning, you know, americans believe in second chances but not third chances. and you asked at the beginning when will voters say enough? i remember an old song from the 1970s that i loved called "how

can i miss you when you won't go away." i think they think it is time for him to go away. >> stephanie: barry in north carolina, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, bar. or not. or kenny in nebraska. hi, kenny, welcome. >> caller: hey, stephanie. i'm going toes my 2k cents in here on the difference between hillary and huma is her name? yeah, huma. she's not going to be president of the united states. hillary is. i voted for barack because he was black. i had agonized over choosing between hillary and barack. well, it is hillary's turn now. >> stephanie: you voted for the president only because he's black? >> that's racist. >> caller: well, it may be but i wanted to see it in my lifetime. it is an evolution. we finally had someone of color, you know, granted, it was always

white. >> stephanie: do you think he had any other qualities? >> under that reasoning, you should have voted for sarah palin because we've never had a woman vice president. >> caller: no, no, i said i agonized between clinton and barack. barack is a smart man. and he's proved to be an excellent president. but i'm not skipping over the important fact here. that he is a person of color and now we've had that step. it is an evolution. we're moving forward. >> stephanie: why do i think that will end up with left wing world on rush limbaugh's show? >> did you get that, newsbusters? >> stephanie: let's go to caroline in knoxville, tennessee. hey, caroline, welcome. >> caller: hi. i had to get in on this because it was just tearing me up. >> stephanie: okay.

>> caller: i feel like i know the difference between the two. bill clinton did not force himself on anyone. in fact, it was probably the other way around. they were probably chasing him. and the other thing is -- >> stephanie: but caroline, i will say -- i will say these women, it doesn't seem like anthony weiner forced himself on them either. >> caller: well, i don't think he forced himself but it seems to me like i read in the paper that some of the women were unsuspecting and isn't that the same thing? >> stephanie: well, i mean -- the one that came out and talked, she knew he was married. >> caller: private parts in the mail. >> stephanie: what's that? >> caller: i think i would feel like i had been violated if i had been communicating with him on political issues and got a picture -- >> it was more than political issues. >> stephanie: the women, at least with a we've seen so far,

the women knew he was married. the women aren't victims either. >> caller: i'm not saying that. i'm saying that's the difference. >> stephanie: yeah. okay. >> whether they forced themselves on these women or not, that's still no excuse for infidelity in my view. >> stephanie: in other news, this is -- i was glad for this outcome in the arial castro case, they won't have to have the trial. the women won't have to go through it. it is apropos punishment he gets prison for life like he was going to do to them. this is the judge. >> you understand, mr. castro, upon entering this plea, you'll never be released from prison. >> i do understand that. >> stephanie: the tim mcginty is the prosecutor. >> he's never coming out except nailed in a box or an ashcan. >> he got life plus 1,000 years. that's a lot. >> stephanie: here he is,

arielle castro. >> i miss my daughter very much. >> maybe he'll get out for good behavior after 800 years. >> stephanie: caroline in phoenix, you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hello. >> stephanie: hello. >> caller: hi. you guys in the media, you keep quoting tomasky or whatever his name is. stop saying there is a difference between to not cheat is really just cheating, the whole discussion, the debate about it, would just go away. tell your friend to stop coming on saying how dumb huma is. or whatever her name is. honestly, you cannot differentiate between cheating because bill clinton did it before -- >> stephanie: right. we're not talking -- okay, we're not talking about cheating. we're not saying there -- we're talking about politically. these are obviously big political figures. we're talking about how it is playing out politically and what the difference is between the

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stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 49 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. eric boehlert from media matters coming up at the top of the hour. let's go to gloria in california. hi, gloria. hi, gloria. >> caller: hi. >> stephanie: hi. go ahead. >> caller: i want to talk about the way the situation -- the weiner situation. i think the press and everyone are being very hypocritical. what about bill clinton. he might have been a great president and i should say i'm a lifelong democrat and i consider myself progressive and i'm black. so i have no republican ax to grind but i really believe that you're being very hypocritical. bill clinton committed adultery right in the white house. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: and it makes no sense to go after -- anthony weiner. he didn't even actually commit

adultery. he was sexting. and while that's not right, he was not bill clinton. and what about the same about jfk. >> stephanie: let me ask you a question, gloria. why do you think during the clinton impeachment, his approval rating was 70 something percent of the american people did not want him impeached. meanwhile, anthony weiner's polls have plummeted in new york. >> caller: because they're hypocrites. >> stephanie: all right. as you've said, it is for the people of new york to decide. it appears they're deciding just like the american people did about bill clinton. >> they're deciding the correct way. >> stephanie: let's go to -- >> my way. so good. >> stephanie: drew in orange county. >> good morning, stephanie. how are you? >> stephanie: go ahead. >> caller: this issue is not an issue of -- it is.

it is infidelity. however, it is the issue of stupidity. do i really want someone representing me who can do something as juvenilistic as showing his becker on social media. >> stephanie: repeatedly. after you've been caught and apologized and asked for a second chance, it is the whole thing. >> caller: it is, stephanie. it speaks to the stupidity of the person and the electability. infidelity is infidelity. when you do it so juvenilistic. >> stephanie: chris may misunderstand. obviously they're both wrong. in terms of the morality. i'm talking about the politics of it. >> caller: the lesser of the two evils. he was an adult about it. >> stephanie: i'm commenting on, you know what, chris, there is a difference that bill clinton, obviously you don't get elected president like that.

he was very charming and people thought he was a really good president. anthony weiner -- >> is kind of a jerk. >> stephanie: yes as karl frisch and others -- he apparently is a jerk to people on his staff. he was a jerk to other people in congress. that's why he couldn't get anything done legislatively. he's a jerk to his wife. i think that's -- i don't know. i think that's part of it. marty in massachusetts, you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, steph. the difference between clinton and weiner is that the republicans went after clinton so badly that all of the democrats had to defend him. and if they hadn't done that, he would have probably had to resign eventually just because of the bad press he was getting. >> stephanie: you know -- >> the republicans overplayed their hands. >> stephanie: hillary was right. there was a right wing conspiracy. they were trying to remove the president through whatever means necessary. >> right. and you know, as faulty as he was, it didn't deserve impeachment.

it wasn't something as high crime and misdemeanor. it was the same thing, thousands of people do all the time. >> stephanie: marty, i'm not going to get into the whole -- i don't judge people. hillary or huma or whoever -- what goes on in their marriage or what they decide to do or don't do, i'm talking about in a larger political sense. >> the republicans went after him tooth and tong and the democrats had to defend that. >> i'm getting a couple of questions on twitter. >> stephanie: yes. >> asking how can you defend eliot spitzer who had unprotected sex with a hooker -- >> stephanie: again, i'm not defending his behavior. i was saying first of all, you have to be honest about your -- i happen to know eliot personally and like him. i'm not close friends with him but in talking to him personally, i feel like -- i know the bar is getting pretty low but compared to weiner, spitzer looks -- of course -- in talking to him --

>> he broke the law. >> stephanie: he had -- he had humor about it. he did some really great work about wall street and all of that stuff. i think there was a number of things with weiner. he didn't have a body of legislative accomplishment or good will that i think -- >> he was an effective spokesperson on the sunday morning talk shows. he was effective in his own way. >> stephanie: right. i'm not saying i didn't agree with him politically. again, so i'm not judging. of course, eliot spitzer's wife. we speculated at the time as to what flower arrangement you would send from pro flowers. having unprotected sex with hookers. i'm just saying, that's a big bouquet. >> very big. >> stephanie: naomi in chicago. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hello, naomi.

>> caller: hi, stephy. i love looking at you and listening to you in the morning. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: i'm a first time caller. i would just like to voice my opinion about you know, why we -- as a society, always -- you know, like people personalize. sometimes in a marriage where couples say i think clinton and hillary, for instance, they went through a lot in the white house. but they end up staying in their marriage and sometimes you have to grow into a marriage. i guess that's why she still side -- she sees a side of her had us that we don't see. she decided. as far as him, those women were in there with him. they were sexting, too. for them to come out, they're hypocritical, too. they're making women look bad by doing this. >> stephanie: exactly. i said that, too. no victims in that, either. they knew he was married and who he was. >> i want the last caller as my grandma.

she sounds awesome. >> can you appoint someone your grandma? >> stephanie: if we can, we're appointing her. >> naomi. >> stephanie: because maybe she's right. huma didn't see the other side of anthony. the carlos danger man side. ♪ there's a man who goes by carlos danger ♪ ♪ when he's on a roll, he tweets with strangers ♪ ♪ another chance he takes ♪ the ots are we will lose our lunch tomorrow ♪ ♪ carlos danger man ♪ carlos danger man ♪ he's taking wiener pictures and using a big name ♪

♪ carlos danger man >> nice guitar riff. [ applause ] >> buddy from columbus said from the jack i resemble kim jong-un. hot dogs on the back of my head. >> stephanie: turn around. oh, my god, he's right. >> except i'm not a despot. >> actual dog on the back of my neck. [ buzzer ] >> are you making a korean food joke? [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] >> stephanie: teresa heinz kerry has been's res -- who's been released from the hospital. she's expected to make a full recovery at home. 508 minutes after the hour. eric boehlert from media matters next on "the stephanie miller show."

>> stephanie: all right. hour number three. current tv, eric boehlert coming up. jacki, we've missed the biggest story of the morning. >> i was going to make a couple of clarifications. >> stephanie: go ahead. >> just because everybody has an opinion on the comparison between clinton and weiner, i don't have one. i don't want to go there. i've never gone there. let's not attribute that to me. it is not something i want to get into. >> stephanie: that's right. yeah. i'm not -- again, i'm not getting into people's personal choice or which morality is

worse. i do think it is all wrong. that's just me but again, i'm just commenting on the politics of it. >> i don't think i said anthony weiner was a bad father. i said i don't think he makes a good male role model. >> that's an understatement. >> stephanie: very touchy. >> i don't know how he is as a dad. i've never seen him change a diaper. i have no idea. i don't think he's a good male role model. >> stephanie: jacki schechner, a good female role model for everyone. >> glen greenwald is planning to testify via video link before congress on wednesday about what he's learned from edward snowden about the nsa and its surveillance reach. the journalist told abc yesterday that low-level contractors had the capability to read e-mails and listen in on calls and while there are legal procedures in place to stoppagists from snooping, it doesn't mean somebody's minding the store. >> the real issue here is what the nsa does is done in complete

secrecy. nobody monitors who they're eavesdropping on so the question of abuse is one the congress aught to be investigating much more aggressively. >> when nsa officials testify flick on wednesday, he defied them to deny the nsa programs work exactly as describes. senator saxby chambliss says the nsa has assured him that the capability for anyone without a court order to access e-mail or phone call content simply doesn't exist. we'll see what happens wednesday. >> meanwhile, the kennedy presidential library has just released new footage of president kennedy on summer vacation in cape cod this past weekend. 50 years ago. the 15-minute film shows president john f. kennedy with his daughter caroline on his lap and the two go for a swim. they do the backstroke. then get back on the boat. where we'll see caroline with her mother jacqueline and back to her dad. there is footage of the president golfing. he misses his first shot then makes his shot. there's also some additional footage of dignitaries arriving by helicopter at hyannis port.

we're back with more show after the break. this show is about analyzing, criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do

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♪ it's a beautiful day ♪ don't let it get away >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. six minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. monday, that means, eric boehlert from media matters for america doing the lord's work as usual. ♪ hurts so good ♪ come on, baby ♪ hurts so good >> stephanie: let's dive into

the right-wing world. >> i don't know what that means. >> stephanie: eric boehlert from media matters who we love. good morning, eric boehlert. >> good morning. >> stephanie: i hesitate to ask. this is a touchy subject for me. but tell us about your tweet about limbaugh and hannity. >> well, report last night, cumulus which is one of the major players in radio, talk radio, thinking of dropping limbaugh and hannity when their contract is up at the end of the year. there seems to be -- you know, a public squabble about how much they want to pay. but of course, the background is cumulus ceo has been very vocal for more than a year now talking about how limbaugh is -- he cannot -- they cannot monetize the show. they can't get the advertisers there's ought to for a program with that big of an audience because of the sandra fluke

fiasco. and so he has been on the record for a long time being unhappy with the limbaugh show, et cetera, et cetera. so this could be public posturing. >> stephanie: negotiating, right. >> negotiating. we want a lower rate. they might still keep him. cumulus has tried to grow their own talent, their own right wing talent they would like to put in some of the slots. so it might be public posturing and limbaugh and hannity might end up on the shows. but the other point is you know, this has never really happened. i mean, when limbaugh was the king of a.m. radio, you didn't negotiate in public because you wanted a lower rate. stations lived in fear of the day that premier, his syndicator would call him and say we're done. we're taking his show across the street. because that collapsed your entire a.m. line-up. so we've gone from please, god,

don't let clear channel take rush limbaugh away from us to hey, let's negotiate in public because we don't really need the show. to me, that is telling in terms of what is happening and how the largest -- one of the largest aim broadcasters now view limbaugh and hannity. >> stephanie: let me say as a radio insider, i know a lot of what's going on, if it benefits me, i'm all for it! we talk about previously, chris and i have said this, old radio war-horses, advertiser boycotts hurts everybody in radio. it has hurt us and everybody. particularly progressive shows are on a lot less stations. advertisers leave talk radio, period and basically, thanks, rush! it's gotten tough for everybody. >> it is sad because they figure well, you know, a.m. talk radio, if you're johnson & johnson or whatever, one of these -- target you're a huge advertiser, a.m.

talk radio is a relatively smaller portion of your advertising budget. so you know, a problem pops up on a.m. radio. a.m. talk radio. and then they say you know, exactly as you said. it is unfortunate. i wish they didn't do it. they say let's cut the talk. rash than saying rush limbaugh is a problem, keep us off that show. honestly, lots of national advertisers do. do not put us on rush limbaugh. but yeah, i think some take the easy way out and say well, let's just get out of talk radio. and that hurts everybody. obviously, you know, talk radio -- radio advertising is a little more complicated. you have local, national, regional, syndicated spots. all of the big soup. it is difficult to keep track of all of those ads across the country. but there's no doubt that you know, i don't think -- i have no

doubt that if it wasn't for the sandra fluke incident, you know, 15, 16 months later, cumulus would not be talking about dropping rush limbaugh's show. >> stephanie: absolutely. all right, more bad news for the right wing. growing number of states reporting lower than expected healthcare premiums. oh, no. just when the republicans are talking about shutting down the government in order to defund obamacare. >> the thing that seems to be working, paul krugman had a good piece up over the weekend. talking about the republican healthcare panic. so the assumption was that you know, they've tried to repeal it 37 times because they're so committed to their philosophy and they're so, you know, opposed to this form of healthcare and that's why -- that's why mitch mcconnell is writing letters to the nfl so they don't help people understand, they won't run ads during the football games so people won't understand what the law -- the theory or the feeling

was that the republicans are just -- you know, they so oppose this legislation and that's why, you know, this extended effort to kill it. oh and the flip side is they might be trying to kill it because it's going to work. because it is going to bring healthcare costs down and it is going to be this defining -- possibly this defining success for obama and then where does that leave the republican party? as krugman points out. in years, they haven't come up with any alternative whatsoever. tried to explain what they would do if they did repeal. the truth seems to be seeping out here. and as these healthcare costs come down, the republican panic is really -- you can see it for what it is. it is a political panic. it is not a public policy panic. >> stephanie: i was reading somebody this morning that i mentioned, eric, talking about the fact that you know, literally, if they do this, people that remember when the republicans shut down the government under clinton, they

said they could lose the house. is that possible because of gerrymandering because i'm like well, good, they may have to burn the village. >> i don't know. i don't know. that's one -- the gerrymandering is just such a huge problem because it just gives the republican party complete blanket coverage to do or not do anything they want. and to sort of bring the house to a complete stand still and the polls show, you know, what is it, an 85%, 87% disapproval rating for congress. but there's no indication that any of that is going to change. >> stephanie: interesting, side off-shoot, you think is going to come out, this whole chris christie and rand paul, this libertarian tea party wing versus whatever the establishment is. they seem to have quite a civil war going on already. >> that really erupted late last week. there's three or four distinct factions.

the libertarian, the true right wing tea party. i guess chris christie is going to position himself as sort of the traditional east coast republican, you know, somewhat socially liberal but -- >> stephanie: it is what passes for diversity in the republican party. all of the war and factions. they need to splinter further, have a bigger tent of diversity. >> yeah. it will be -- you know, and then where does fox news fit in that? they've been big fans of rand paul. complete cheerleaders for chris christie. so that's going to get complicated if those two come in further conflict. of course, fox news essentially gave birth to the tea party movement. >> stephanie: you notice what i had. i think peggien into has passed her expiration date. gotta love peggien into an's --

noonan's be optimization. >> she's doubling and tripling down on the i.r.s. scandal. about a month ago, she called the i.r.s. scandal with my air quotes here, as the biggest d.c. scandal since watergate. and you're like okay. that doesn't really make a lot of sense. we've had actual scandals since then. and then last week, she wrote there was this big bombshell revelation about some ties to the white house. media matters pointed out, the bombshell she was writing about, she had written about two months ago. so she wasn't really advancing the story. so her most recent column, she sort of defendantly waters the whole thing down. she says this is the biggest i.r.s. scandal since watergate. so it is no longer biggest political scandal since watergate, it is now the biggest i.r.s. scandal since watergate. which is kind of funny and not acknowledging her hyperbole in

the past. kind of signs off and saying this could be going -- she envisions how these investigations are going to be going into next spring and next summer and obama's really going to regret it because it is going to cost them the house. and you look at the state of this scandal and you know, obviously there's no there anymore. >> stephanie: exactly. loved your tweet, oh, the irony. racism doesn't exist. right wing sites, don't look at the comment sections which are crawling -- you wrote a great piece. move over climate deniers. it was out in full force with this whole trayvon martin situation. >> in the wake of the verdict, first through -- they continue to smear trayvon martin and smear his character saying you know, he got what he deserved. then there was an interesting segue into trying to expand, you know, the debate about race and basically, you know, a theory or

a talk point that had sort of been on the fringes for years which was racism doesn't exist in america. and it has been solved and any time it's brought up by liberals or democrats, it is just a political ploy. so that was just completely mainstreamed after the zimmerman trial. so this is a way to shut down any debate to try -- by just announcing, you know, that trial couldn't have been about racism because anti-black racism doesn't exist in america. >> we got a letter from someone, sal fewtation -- salutation, hey, "n" word lovers. >> stephanie: goes to their point that racism clearly is over with. you also say -- you know, there was no good way for gun appropriates to spin the death of an -- gun proponents to spin the death of an unarmed teenager. here came this 16-month campaign to smear a dead teenager.

>> yeah. and that was a way to make it so trayvon martin sort of got what he had coming. he was a thug. and there was a way to send a message that this case wasn't important. it is not worth getting all excited about. it doesn't say anything about you know, race relations or guns in america or anything like that. and it certainly didn't play into the right wing narrative which are minorities pose the physical threat in america. rush limbaugh -- >> stephanie: president obama's violent african-american base as you call it. >> yeah, right. that's how rush limbaugh has portrayed it for years. so we had a black unarmed victim shot so that doesn't really play into the right wing narrative which is they're the ones with the guns and they're the ones posing the physical threat. so the whole thing had to be turned around and sort of sadly, you know, the victim was -- made

the victim again. >> stephanie: yeah. proving your point exactly that clearly race still exist and is alive and well. eric boehlert, great stuff as always. we'll see you next week. >> all right, bye-bye. >> stephanie: there he goes. [ applause ] 19 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> coming up after this commercial, i'll be talking even louder. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show."

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>> stephanie: 23 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. let's go to sara in georgia on the weiner. not literally. hello, sara. >> caller: hi, stephanie. >> stephanie: hi. >> caller: i discovered your show. i'm an addict. i can't miss it. >> stephanie: awesome! >> caller: i'm telling you, weiner is a flasher. that's what he is. a guy who may have cheated on his wife. weiner is a sick joker. one day his son is going to google his name. guess what he's going to say. that his father was a pervert. >> stephanie: someone said it is the high tech part of it otherwise he would be in central park. >> when i was a kid, i went to school in new york, they rode the subway. >> stephanie: that's right. subway flashers, exactly.

thank you. >> what do you think of that? >> stephanie: what do you think of this? check it out. paula in boston. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hello, paula. >> caller: hi, stephanie. how are you? >> stephanie: good. >> caller: yes, i would like to be the official couples therapist of "the stephanie miller show." >> wow, we could have used you -- >> stephanie: individually and collectively. >> caller: loved you guys when you were in boston. miss you. but anyway, i wanted to comment about something that jacki said earlier in the show. >> stephanie: mm-hmm. >> caller: a lot of people seem to be implying that the wives and partners of these people who cheat somehow or another knew. jacki said huma knew what she was when she married him. >> stephanie: i don't know if we know that for sure, do we? >> right. exactly. my comment is you know, people who cheat, in my experience, go

out of their way to hide this from their partners. they're not making it obvious. they have all kinds of ways to try and -- hide it. >> stephanie: in your experience, what do you think the truth is? i don't know whether jacki meant later, you know what -- she knew obviously as they were going forward with this mayoral run. do you think she believed him that he had stopped and had asked for forgiveness? >> interesting question because if you look at her statement that she made, she said you know, she and her husband have been in couples therapy for quite awhile. she said it has been a lot of hard work to try and get through this. it really -- it really called into question a lot of things about the marriage. >> stephanie: as a couples therapist, what do you think of this going on this soon into their marriage. they just got married, didn't they? not that long ago.

>> i don't know how long they were married before she became pregnant. i don't know when they got married. i don't know the history of it. i don't know how long they've actually been together. but i do know that by the time people make a commitment like that to one another, the intimate relationship has lost its complicated threads to it and we look at it from the perspective of you know, he cheated. we see this one aspect of his behave and certainly, if that was all you knew about somebody, why would anybody stay with anybody if that was the case? >> stephanie: i have one -- paula, i have one friend, many years ago that -- i don't remember all of the details. i remember it was sort of a situation of her husband freaking out like almost immediately when they got married, as maybe some men or people do about commitment and started -- in his case, whether it was cheat or a lot of erratic behavior. do you think he's always been like this? >> i have no idea.

except i can tell you that i've seen a lot of that kind of behavior also where people, when they're about to go through life changes, whether it is -- particularly around having their first child which is a big, perhaps the biggest change in a relationship, even bigger than getting married is having the first child. so you know, it is possible. i don't know really anything about anthony weiner. i live in boston. >> stephanie: i'm speculating, too. i had a friend that went through it. i don't know if whether the double commitment of getting married and having a baby that quickly. i'm not making excuses for him. maybe he's always been like this. >> right. it could happen. i just want to say one thing and that is that i think that the right wing will hop on this to try and discredit hillary clinton in some way and if we buy into that, i think we're making a huge mistake. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: hillary clinton, whether --

>> stephanie: it has nothing to do with her qualifications to be senator, secretary of state and hopefully president. >> that's right. the other thing was she was -- i looked at some of the pictures pretty closely when all of this came to light with bill clinton and monica lewinsky, the pictures of the clinton family. it was very clear to me just from watching her body language, you know, expert that i'm not, that she was beyond furious with him. so the implication she knew what was going on all along, i don't think so. >> stephanie: i talked to people that knew them that said they actually really love each other. maybe people have missed. despite the flaws in their relationship. 29 minutes after the hour. fascinating. right back on "the stephanie miller show."

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>> she dresses really well for stephanie miller. her body is -- >> whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. >> what? >> don't what me. you just said she's stephanie miller. >> you just said it. you totally buried the lead. >> well, it's not that important. >> stephanie: this is the "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 34 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. anna in washington, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, anna. >> caller: good morning, stephanie. >> stephanie: hello. >> caller: i just want to make a point about this whole weiner

comparison that i don't think i've heard anyone else say. and basically that is that a american is between two people. it is a contract. the agreement between those two people -- it is none of our business. it is -- the terms of the contract. and you know, i -- i'm almost 60. i remember the whole fiasco with bill clinton. i watched hillary, too. and i thought is she angry because he cheated or is she angry because he's making this -- he's kind of threatening the whole upsetting the applecart. i thought i don't know. i can't tell. >> stephanie: i think that's the truth is we don't know the reality of anybody else's marriage. >> caller: we don't. she's always been a class act. you know, she runs, i probably

will vote for her. i wouldn't probably vote for weiner. it is obvious his wife does not approve of his behavior. nobody does, it doesn't seem. >> stephanie: the other thing, anna, somebody was saying, i don't know the truth. you hear the rumors. somebody said they heard gary hart, remember that whole thing, they had an open marriage. again, we can go i don't understand the whole open marriage thing but the fact is politically, somebody couldn't say that probably and get elected in america either, could they? >> it is none of our business. i'm not in one. but some people are. if that's their choice, that's their choice. as long as they're not hurting people. but if you take office and you're expecting them to have integrity and your opinion of

integrity is you don't cheat on your wife. you don't jeopardize your marriage. then you know, they lose all credibility. so i don't think bill ever lost credibility. >> stephanie: i think he lost credibility but i think people -- >> when he repealed glass-steagall, he lost credibility. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] >> stephanie: by the way, nbc is doing a hillary mini series. hillary -- it will be entitled hillary. >> with exclamation points? >> it will be a musical. like chicago! >> stephanie: not on roller skates like in xanadu. it will star diane lane. from the monica lewinsky scandal through the present day. >> kardashian will play monica. just making that up. >> i hope it's not khloe. >> stephanie: don't we all? zack in madison.

>> caller: hey, guys, thanks for keeping me sane while i'm unemployed. i was going to make the call the previous caller did. we don't know are they in a -- an open relationship or a monogamichigan relationship. i don't know what kind of country we live in when politicians can pass laws where we can detain people indefinitely without trial and somebody sends [ bleep ] pictures. >> stephanie: speaking of politics, senator john mccain's daughter megan getting her own tv show. raising mccain on the pivot channel. i wonder if she will invite dad on. >> we can't bash heads like we used to. >> stephanie: there's episode

one. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] >> stephanie: launching august 1st. >> channel 1,6 2k 1. >> i think that's taken. >> not much room. >> stephanie: wow. we've been talking about the pope and how he's been poping. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] you think that it's a little too good, chris. you suspect him. >> yeah. usually when we get good news after good news after good news like this from a former enemy, something's about to -- >> stephanie: he is really jesusy. >> take the mask off. >> pearl harbor here. >> he will be one of the reptilian -- >> stephanie: pope francis and some of the most conciliatory awards from gays say they should not be judge and should be integrated into society. >> yet they should be killed. that's the next sentence that's coming. >> stephanie: it did not say that. we can play in their reindeer games. >> the church has lied before.

>> stephanie: he still said the roman catholic church's ban on gay -- >> roman chocolate church. >> stephanie: what a pastoral activity? >> roaming around in the fields. >> stephanie: not that kind of posterral. >> like priestley activities, right? >> i have no idea. we could ask the pope but he's at the pope-a-cabana. hold on. thanks a lot. thanks for being ready. ♪ ♪ his name is francis ♪ he is the pontiff ♪ with a big hat on his hair and those red shoes way down there ♪ ♪ he would decrease and while he has to be a star, this pope doesn't go too far ♪ ♪ he has a humble plan

♪ he is new and he had a mask ♪ it's the pope-a-cabana. ♪ he's the pope-a-cabana ♪ it's the fashion ♪ at the pope-a, they were absolved ♪ >> three million people to watch him. that's a big, huge audience. >> stephanie: that's a pope a palooza there. justin in new york. you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, mama, hey, mooks. >> stephanie: hello. >> caller: i wanted to talk about the whole post-racism thing with trayvon martin. i think anybody who says that racism doesn't exist never saw that coming on the cheerios commercial. >> stephanie: eric boehlert had a good point. right wing web sites saying it

doesn't exist. read their comment section. see how far you get before you get an "n" word or two. sandy, you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hello, stephanie. >> stephanie: hello. >> caller: i wanted to talk about clinton -- hillary clinton and how it was different from huma. hillary and bill were a political powerhouse. and she made the calculated decision that she was better off to be with bill than apart from bill because she had her own aspirations. i think huma is actually more accomplished than anthony ever was. >> stephanie: sandy, i was reading this piece when we started talking about this whole scandal. there were a lot of people obviously in those circles, they didn't get it in the first place before this came out. what is she doing with him? right. she had a better rolodex, more power in many ways, beautiful. >> caller: absolutely. and i think she's doing herself a disservice by staying with him

as opposed to hillary who had her own vision of who she wanted and she needed bill by her side and you know, they did their own thing. they made their own calculated decision. of. >> stephanie: i don't know if you read morning dowd's column. when you puzzle over why the huma abedin is with the anthony weiner, remember huma was raised in saudi arabia where women are treated worse by men than anywhere else on the planet. i've heard that part of that speculation. have you? >> caller: absolutely. absolutely. she has a much more conservative upbringing. kind of like growing up strict catholic where you don't divorce your husband and they're king. but on the last note before you cut me off, i want to congratulate everybody on the whole prop 8 thing out in california. i have a sister out there who is a teacher, phys. ed. teacher in the l.a. area. >> stephanie: are you implying that she is --

[ ♪ dramatic ] gay? >> hello! >> hello. she's a female phys. ed. teacher. >> what's the problem there? >> what's your point? >> stephanie: stop it. >> caller: my husband and i have had this conversation about whether -- we let's go people get married, does that take anything away from our marriage. we decided no. but in fairness, full disclosure, ten years ago, we were married at the courthouse on good friday by a dui judge. >> stephanie: nothing more sacred than that. >> caller: you know. >> stephanie: dui judge is not drunk. i don't know what you're referring to. jacki mentioned earlier -- [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] glen greenwald will be testifying before congress on the nsa surveillance program. how about that. did you see the headline in the "l.a. times." americans leave anti-terror

programs but support them anyway. you people are all over on this. there's no partisan -- everybody's all over the place on it. americans believe the government surveillance programs collect far more information than even the widely reported recent leaks of classified data indicate and they increasingly worry about the scope of the anti-terror programs has endangered civil liberties yet despite the concerns, americans narrowly approve of the collection of data as a part of efforts. 44% disapproving according to a new pew poll. again, not on par. >> second hitler reference of the morning. of. >> references aren't always wrong. >> stephanie: i wish i could ask my dad who was gar rae pal as jim has previously noted. >> his poker buddy. >> stephanie: by pal, you mean interrogated him as a prosecutor. >> basically your dad was palling around with terrorists?

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my topic for tonight i guess on cnn on erin burnett, discuss the clinton -- to weiner. time to hard delete carlos danger. she makes some of the same points though. i talked about this morning that tomasky has talked about. she writes now defining dev -- deviancy, there's nothing in weiner's public life that's redeeming. he only managed to get one minor bill passed and he knows how to be loud on cable and wave his sword in our faces. some like weiner's fall into the realm of seriously? what is wrong with you? they loved huma, the clintons but now showcasing fill on thropny and are not happy about getting dragged into the spectacle. the former president is distancing himself one associate said noting he's not getting

anywhere near that grenade. huma's friends are slapping my forehead that weiner would get in the race knowing the online land mines that would rock huma's world again. they're worried her decision to vouch foreher husband is starting to hurt her. the hard film stink of this will get on everyone involved said one friend. they feared huma will learn the wrong lesson that bill was a genius while weiner is a creepy loser. bill clinton was the greatest policy mind of a generation said one anthony is behaving similarly without the chops of the resume. that goes to mike tomasky's piece last week as well. as often as bill apologized, he didn't promise he would never do it again. what people won't forgive is lying and the apology. it has to be sincere and accurate. again, i think that's another difference with the whole spitzer thing is i think at least from what people can tell, his apology is sincere. he has changed his ways. >> sure.

that is a difference. you're right. >> stephanie: let's go to nadia in north carolina. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hey, nadia. >> caller: can you hear me? >> stephanie: yes. go ahead. >> caller: great. thanks for taking my call. i've been really enjoying the show today and i just wanted to comment on -- the discussion you were having with jacki about whether or not -- i mean obviously don't know why she stayed with him and i'm not going to comment on that but whether or not she should have stayed with him just because she had a baby on the way. i have to say i think i really agree with jacki on this. this notion when a woman has a child, she should just accept -- >> stephanie: anything. >> caller: right because we have this societal notion that some father figure is better than no father figure because we have the expectations for men, especially for men as fathers. former -- somebody else commenting about how sometimes people cheat because, you know,

they're going through some life change and having a baby is a big life change. maybe he also cheated because he thought she wouldn't leave. >> stephanie: because of the timing of the baby. who can say. >> caller: i don't know. that's basically what i wanted to say. i think that you know, i have a friend who is a social worker and she's like you don't even know how many kids i've worked with who have been abused or you know, neglected or sexually abused by some kind of father figure whether it is their own father or a stepfather or a live-in boyfriend. oftentimes, the woman stays with this guy because there's this stigma in our culture toward single mothers and this notion we need some sort of male. we're willing to accept it from men. i'm not trying to devall men. i had a wonderful father but that just kind of bothered me.

>> stephanie: good point. >> caller: thank you so much. >> stephanie: monopoly, the board game is getting rid of jail. that is some bull [ bleep ] say good-bye to one of the few remaining cornerstones of child because monopoly empire about to become jail-free. that's what's happened. >> you know why they're doing it? because people said it took too long to play monopoly. when is the last time you finished monopoly? >> stephanie: we're the add generation. i don't think anybody has ever finished a game of monopoly. >> do not pass go. go directly to jail. >> stephanie: the writer of the piece, that's why it lasted so long, your siblings would beat you to death if you tried to leave the game. the removal of jail -- >> with the thimble. >> stephanie: the removal of jail and all subsequent order has allowed the average game to be shaved down to a measly 30-minute affair and i'm calling bull [ bleep ] >> back in my day -- we would

play monopoly for six weeks in a row. nonstop! >> stephanie: as long as it took you to put one of the puzzles together in the '70s that had a kazillion pieces. helen in ithaca, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, helen. >> caller: good morning, stephanie and everybody else. yeah, weiner has a classic -- in my ten weeks of taking psyche 101 then i dropped it because i thought all of this crap is common sense, he is a classic narcissistic personality disorder which you can look up in the dsm. but anyhow, on the positive side, i know stephanie, you were raised as a good, catholic girl. this pope, he rocks, man. he actually walks the walk. he is directly criticizing us, the united states wall street. and he is -- in the past month, he's been talking about --

everything about him is airtight greed. he does it himself. i don't want the prada shoes. i don't want the stupid robe. you wear it if you want it. he said that. >> stephanie: there is a possibility he might be a gay atheist. >> a gatheist. this may be a whole new -- >> this pope doesn't care about footwear. that was the previous pope. >> stephanie: he doesn't care. i'm saying even for him to notice the footwear. jim is speculating as to -- is he wearing chuck taylors? i don't know what he's wearing. >> i hope he hasn't disappeared like the first john paul. >> stephanie: he is not wearing c -- crocs. the guy caught masturbating in crocs. the football player. i'm right.

i could be right. i could be wrong. who can tell. we were telling healthcare horror stories earlier. how about this one. dead hospital patient woke up as doctors prepared to remove organs. >> that's horrifying because people -- it is a whole industry around harvesting organs and if there is a financial motive to remove them before the person is dead, that's really evil. >> stephanie: they ruled st. joseph's hospital in syracuse ruled a woman dead and permission of the woman's family prepared to remove her organs for donation. as she was on the operating table, she opened her eyes. she was alive. eye live! alive. >> nightmare! >> stephanie: sucks to be her. that's it for us today. chris lavoie, jim ward, t-bone on phones and drums. we'll see you tomorrow on "the stephanie miller show."

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