[ ♪ theme ] >> all right. this is "the stephanie miller show" and as you can see, stephanie miller is not here. go ahead, punch it up. yeah. nope, nope. there. yes. okay. hello, jacki schechner. >> did she forget we've got another week on current? >> she forgot we have another week on current. >> shows how much she loves me, right? >> exactly. we have until thursday, correct? >> yes, thursday will be our last day on current. >> i will be very sad.

>> me, too. >> today, i hope stephanie gets here. until then, i want to tell you we have the rude pundit coming up this hour. as we do every monday and we've got some great stuff for you. but in the meantime, we do have jacki schechner giving us all of the news from the current news center. take it away, jacki. >> happy monday. not a ton of stuff going on, especially in washington. everyone is on vacation. president obama is now in martha's vineyard though he'll be getting daily briefings from senior aides and he will spend some time, of course, preparing for what's likely to be a busy falling, dealing with among other things immigration reform and the federal budget. while our president is now playing golf and relaxing a bit. enjoying downtime, the norwegian prime minister has been taking on a second job. well, sort of. let me explain. he went undercover as a taxi driver in oslo during june because he wanted to hear what real people had to say. his exchanges with cab riders

were caught on hidden camera. he wore a disguise and only gave away his real identity once the passengers recognized him. that's not really a great disguise if you think about it, just the sunglasses. a company helped him with the project and the video was posted on his facebook page. it is also going to be used as part of a film that he will use during his re-election campaign next month. the idea was to find out what people really had to say if he were driving a taxicab. since the prime minister hasn't driven himself around in eight years, rumor is he had a little bit of difference going the difference between the brake and the clutch. all in all the project went smoothly and passengers weren't charged for the ride. >> things bumpier for anthony weiner. a new poll from sienna college shows that the mayoral candidate has set a record with his unfavorable rating. 80% among new york voters.

they say that is, of course, the most embarrassing they've seen ever. we're back after the break.

>> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that

current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv. ♪ it's a beautiful day ♪ don't let it get away >> stephanie: what? i'm here. i'm prepared. what's your point? six minutes after the hour. happy monday, everybody. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number. toll free from anywhere. stephaniemiller.com the web site. you can e-mail us all there, chris lavoie, jim ward. before we -- lots of big news obviously, nsa, all of that stuff. however, more importantly, nancy

in ohio says omg, thanks to listening to a steph cast, only $4.95 a month, and then taking a shower that sound of trying to get the last drops of shampoo out of my bottle will never sound the same. it sounds exactly like turtle sex. eh, eh. >> stephanie: you don't want to wait. just that last little -- i apologize for that. [ applause ] >> wow! >> stephanie: all right. >> she thought of this when she was in the shower. >> it sounded like someone else's faucet? >> stephanie: right. the guy didn't repair his faucet correctly. that's how it sounds when he needs water. all right. in the meantime, because we should just start monday, we should start the week with some weirdness. >> yeah? >> stephanie: rocky mountain mike for some reason has decided to combine turtle sex, dana loesch, cody the screaming dog and barry white. why not? >> because he can.

♪ >> stephanie: that's weird. [dana loesch screaming] >> wow. >> like having sex with mitch mcconnell. >> stephanie: where's cody? there he is. wow! wow! >> okay. >> stephanie: this is saying something but of all of the weird things rocky mountain mike has sent us, that's the weirdest. >> that's the weirdest. ♪ let's hear it for the boy ♪ let's give the boy a hand >> stephanie: wow! all right then.

so i knew -- [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] yesterday on "meet the press," what do you call it? gregory, noted tool says does this mean that edward snowden has won? okay. >> yes, he's won fabulous prizes! >> stephanie: right. >> a lifetime supply of borsch maybe. >> stephanie: the president obviously -- and again, we've said this over and over again. should stuff be looked at, yes. but the president said exactly what i thought. >> obama: i don't think snowden was a patriot. as i said in my opening remarks, i called for a thorough review of our surveillance operations before mr. snowden made these leaks. i think we would have gotten to the same place and we would have done so without putting at risk our national security. >> and would have done it lawfully. >> stephanie: there's that. anyway, so i knew -- because i knew i was going to get e-mails about oh, see, the president --

snowden was right and -- all right, something like that. actually, i have one hate letter. can i have some hate letter music. it is from michael. subject line how does it really smell. do obama's [ bleep ] smell like cookies and his [ bleep ] smell like cream? wake up, stupid. >> obama is leftist? >> stephanie: i don't -- okay. >> she's calling snowden a traitor and she's a leftist? political dyslexia. >> that's michelle's job. >> stephanie: thanks for your inquiry. by the by, so did we post this? >> yes. >> stephanie: i thought it was an interesting piece in the "l.a. times" op-ed by -- see if we can get him on. a former intelligence guy, director of the what -- national whatever. i'll find it. [ ♪ battle hymn of republic ]

>> stephanie: national security agency. >> nsa. >> there you go. >> stephanie: andrew lightman, "l.a. times," what did edward snowden get wrong? everything. i was talking to a friend about this weekend when the president spoke on friday. it's like -- he leaked stuff to the chinese and the russians. how does that make him a patriot? i agree with the president. >> about what? we don't know. >> stephanie: honestly, jim, i still get concerned about, you know, it may be way above my pay grade but i'm concerned about security, too. i think that what the president said -- well, here. let's listen to a little more of the president. >> obama: it's true. we have a significant capabilities. what's also true is we show a restraint that many governments around the world don't even think to do. refuse to show. that includes, by the way, some of america's most vocal critics. we shouldn't forget the difference between the ability of our government to collect information online under strict guidelines and for narrow

purposes than the willingness of some other governments to throw their own citizens in prison for what they say online. >> stephanie: talking to you, putin. >> we're not there. >> stephanie: right. [ ♪ battle hymn of republic ] >> i'm with alan grayson. >> stephanie: what did edward snowden get wrong? everything. andrew lightman in the "l.a. times." we posted this up at stephanie miller facebook. snowden is out of his limbo. i hope the food is lousy, the winter is cold and the internet access is awful. >> it is russia. you're pretty much guaranteed all three of those. >> stephanie: i worry more about the damage snowden has done and could still do to strike the right balance between privacy and security. i do, too. he says those following snowden should understand two key points. first, though many things need to be kept secret in today's dangerous world, the line between secret and not secret is stark. the harsh truth is we should often err more toward secrets than fewer.

the u.s. government truly does make efforts not to violate privacy, not just because it respects privacy, goes toward what the president was just saying but it doesn't have time to read irrelevant e-mails connected to possible plots against american civilians. incidents like the snowden a i fair but my colleagues in an impossible situation. yet the official explanations about the virtues of data collection can sound self-justifying and vague but they're still right. i know firsthand that general keith alexander the nsa director is telling the truth when he talks about the plots preempt and attacks that have been foiled because of the intelligence his agency collected. i know because i was on the inside. i've long held security clearances and i've participated in many of the activities he describes. i spent years to identify, dissen tangle and attack al-qaeda. we operated in the dark because we had to. allied da and its affiliates learned from our mistakes. we made a point of understanding

their message better than they understand ours. i've admitted to this bias. do i trust this more because obama is president? do i trust it more when al franken and dianne feinstein say it? yes! this is one point of view i think is valid. he says i understand the trade-offs here. but the intelligence community isn't keeping things from the american people because we don't trust them but once important security information is out there, they can do us arm. al franken made this point. it isn't -- it doesn't fall necessarily on partisan lines. he said that's why i find the snowden controversy so frustrating. i realize many americans don't trust their government. i wish i could change that and tell people the amazing things i witnessed during my 30 years in the c.i.a. i've never seen people work harder for that little money and long hours. people took it for granted their flaws would be scrutinized, successes ignored but i've been around along to know that government is immune to stories like me.

the conspiracy buff. too busy howling in protest at the thought that their government could uncover how long they spent on the phone with their dear aunt. the government is not interested in your conversations with your aunt unless of course she's a key terrorist leader. more than 100 billion e-mails were sent every day. in that vast mass of data, many are not of interest. i think the president made the analogy, all of the data in the world is a basketball court. what the nsa collects is the size of a dime. but it still -- >> so far. >> stephanie: jeremy bash said if you're looking for a needle in a haystack, you need a haystack. we've spent enormous amounts of time figuring out the specs of data. he took it upon himself, the authority to decide what trade craft the intelligence community needs to keep his fellow citizens safe. the intelligence community

always a less than pathetic pro-tag nays actually has a good story to dell about how seriously the government takes privacy issues we should tell it anyway, so. [ applause ] i just thought that was really -- from somebody on the inside. >> somebody from the inside who wants more access to more data. >> stephanie: he doesn't now. >> he comes from the point of the view of the organization that wants the access of the data. >> stephanie: i understand. what i'm saying is the president has said -- obviously they were look at this before this whole thing happened with snowden. we arrived at probably the same place we would have without spilling our secrets to the entire world including the russians, the chinese and terrorists and god knows who else. all right. more crunchy audio goodness from the president and much more as we continue, 17 minutes after the hour. it is "the stephanie miller show." >> i don't know what that means but i like the sound of it. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show."

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♪ ♪ bowwow yo yippee yo, yippee yay ♪ >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 21 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number. hoy in new jersey, you're on "the stephanie miller show."

>> caller: hello? >> stephanie: hi, hoy. go ahead. >> caller: hi. sorry about that. >> stephanie: that's all right. >> caller: i have a question. i agree completely with you wholeheartedly and the person who wrote -- >> stephanie: the editorial in the "l.a. times." >> caller: okay, yes. i agree with that completely. what i do not understand is the german to your left. >> stephanie: jim ward. >> politically and physically. >> stephanie: yes. go ahead. >> caller: what i do not understand is people like them. talk about people on the right who live in a bubble. i think they do, too. they live in this false bubble. it's like terrorists are -- i don't know if they think they're ingettent or -- incompetent or they're not quite as smart but these are very smart, genius-like people. and we cannot take that for granted. they do not apply their terrorist activities to what our

quote-unquote constitution says. >> your quote-unquote constitution. >> the constitution is pretty cut-and-dried. >> caller: number one, i'm black so the constitution when i look at it, see, i don't want to go there with you on the constitution. when i look at it, i do not think it applies to us. that's what i'm talking about. so therefore, you look at the constitution, i don't think it carries -- look at it going as if, well, we can't do that because their constitution -- we won't do that. >> the point is that we're destroying the constitution from within. we're ignoring the fourth amendment. the fourth amendment is pretty much dead. >> caller: name me the time that the constitution has ever stood for all americans. >> so we should just throw it out. >> caller: i think that we should revise it. >> it is pretty hard to revise. >> caller: well, i'm sorry. >> stephanie: hoy, i think you're expressing the same concern i have between security

and what do you call it? i'm blanking out. i know what you're saying. and i don't know. i'm just saying, i think it is a debate worth having. when people say is it just because you trust obama? yes! >> caller: me, too. >> stephanie: partially. the president on friday. >> obama: the men and women of our intelligence community work every single day to keep us safe because they love this country and believe in our values. they're patriots. and i believe that those who have lawfully raised their voices on behalf of privacy and civil liberties are also patriots who love our country. this is how we're going to resolve our differences in the united states through vigorous public debate guided by our constitution with reverence for our history as a nation of laws and with respect for the facts. >> and throwing out the fourth amendment to the constitution. >> stephanie: for god's sake, really? you said lawfully, too. you said if we can do it lawfully. the president said if edward snowden thinks what he did is

right, like any other american, check back and face a court of law. >> exactly. he needs to come back and face a court of law. >> stephanie: but he's not going to. >> no, he's not going to. >> stephanie: he thinks what he did was right -- >> he should also follow the fourth amendment lawfully. >> stephanie: that's what the president was talking about. that's what he's looking at. you know, jim for you to go during the break, the c.i.a. has done a lot of terrible things. right. but does that mean there's not a lot of patriots and hard-working people? >> of course there are. absolutely. but you shouldn't just turn a blind eye to some of the awful things they've done as well. >> stephanie: i'm not. and i think that -- again, does it make a difference who's at the top? when george w. bush was ordering -- then this makes a huge difference. frank in l.a., you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, frank. >> caller: you know, it is not surprising that the government spies on you but the problem is that they privatized it. why would they pay a private company -- to do this and you

don't even know what they're doing with the information. the only allegiance is to the ceo and the stockholders. >> that is probably the biggest thing that snowden did was break -- >> stephanie: we shouldn't be giving jackalopes like him access to security. >> caller: it is obscene. they don't make a profit. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: and you have people that are dedicated when they work for the government, they're dedicated because they want their pensions. they want to retire. >> stephanie: that's the point you made, chris. first of all, i feel like greenwald used him. he put him up to this. he didn't go into this job to serve -- >> and now snowden -- >> stephanie: he did this to leak all of this stuff and yeah, exactly. >> meanwhile, greenwald is sitting comfortably wherever he is. >> stephanie: kevin in iowa, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hello, kevin. >> caller: hello. my point is we forget that

snowden is working for booze allen, not working for the u.s. government. we're looking at -- we should be blaming the company that let us down. it is like private prisons or whatever. these guys are working for booz allen. they think what booz allen is doing is wrong then what the government is doing is wrong. we make them the bad guys as opposed to investigating the company that let these secrets go because it wasn't him. it was the company that let it go and we're the one giving billions of dollars. he did wrong, yes. but let's investigate what this company is doing. >> stephanie: i agree. >> the whole private prisons thing is really heinous where they have a financial stake in creating more clients for the prisons and making things illegal. >> stephanie: which, by the way, also what eric holder is doing. we'll talk about that. chuck in ride hoe, you're on "the stephanie miller show". hi, chuck. >> caller: i agree with jim,

too. we're not sitting in the seat that these whistle-blowers have sat in and had access to the buttons that they could push and access information. it would scare the bejeebers out of them that caused them to release this information. and we don't -- nobody's addressing what are we going to do to prevent this types of things like at booz allen or -- >> stephanie: that's the key that we keep talking about. that was the first question everybody had about this. how does a guy like this get access. >> or a private company like that. who answers to nobody except for their shareholders. >> this ties into the whole koch brothers thing. the privatization of everything. and monetization. >> putting top secret information into the hands of private citizens who are not government employees. >> stephanie: and might have other agendas like glen greenwald's. scott in charlotte, you're obtain "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, steph. long time, first time. there's a lot of controversy

over people and their internet access and their e-mail and people are all up in arms about what's going on in the world today. i don't think people really understand how the internet works. when you log into any system, it reads what's on your computer, your ip address, which computer it is just for the internet to work. when you send an e-mail, people complain i don't want it read. it is like sending a postcard through the postal service and someone reading the back of it. >> stephanie: i signed up for netflix. i've pretty much given up all of my amendments but it was worth it to watch house of cards. >> if you want to send a picture of your grandkid to aunt tillingly -- >> you don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy. >> stephanie: rude pundit next on "the stephanie miller show." if you believe in state's rights

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>> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv.

>> a news report from -- >> stephanie miller. >> we haven't had one of those since they canceled "passions." this should be good. >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 34 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. ♪ ♪ lee papa rude pundit ♪ ooh, papa, papa who >> stephanie: good morning, papa. >> good morning. i do have to throw in here on one of the things you talked about -- >> uh-oh. >> i once saw two giant tortoises having sex -- >> stephanie: uh-huh.

>> it was quite a sight. it was one that just took the other one from behind, moving slowly but the one on top looked so into it. its mouth was open. it drooled. and i felt like -- and it gets airborne, too. like the entire front section is up in the air. >> it is. it was remarkable. and the sound was a little deeper than the one you played. >> stephanie: i did not realize -- >> i don't mean to weigh in on the controversies. >> stephanie: sorry. i didn't know you were such a turtle sex aficionado. >> you have video of that by any chance? >> stephanie: please, weigh in on it because i'm sure we differ on the nsa stuff and what the president said. >> oh, you know, my -- you know, if you want to go happy clappy on the press conference, i would rather talk about him smacking around the republicans on healthcare and immigration. >> stephanie: i know. we're going to talk to jacki about that next hour. he really did, didn't he? he put it more concisely and i

think better than he ever has. >> i think so. there is your 2014 campaign. how many times did, you know, did representative x vote to prevent 30 million people from getting health insurance? >> stephanie: salon has a great piece, rude but it is about really that it was tougher for the president to seize this debate until now because this is exactly what we're saying. this wasn't in place yet. now that it is and people are seeing the benefits, you know, he's able to seize control of the debate in a way that, you know, i just say -- i think you're right. it was a smackdown of the republicans. >> it really was. it was also that you know, i just -- i feel like it is putting a stark relief the fact that the reason republicans are scared of obamacare is that they believe it's going to work. and that if it works, you know, their whole governing philosophy is kind of screwed.

>> stephanie: yeah. can you imagine every morning like another state has another headline about premiums going down? you know. and we got a call last week. from a former republican who said, you know, obamacare has saved my life. my wife and i would have been bankrupt if x, y and z. that's their worst nightmare. >> it is. those are the stories that will be paraded out is, you know, i was able to get treatment for cancer because of obamacare. >> stephanie: the overreaching is so great because he's able to say they want to shut down the government over trying to keep 30 million people from getting health insurance. >> yep, yep. i mean they're putting themselves into an ideological corner and obama and hopefully the democrats will follow him on this because they haven't before. but hopefully they'll follow him into keeping him in the corner. >> stephanie: let's talk about your piece why ann coulter and bill o'reilly are c words.

one of my more favorite posts lately, may i just say. >> thank you. >> stephanie: well and the fun fact that's in here that tokyo tank attack is one of rude pundit's favorite new sexual positions. >> well, you know, when you spend as much time, you know look at porn as i do -- >> stephanie: right. >> you come across some of the strange fringes that involve turtles and other things. >> stephanie: all right. good to know. >> i don't think it involves tanks. something just tells me. >> stephanie: it is amazing. i watched this, too. bill o'reilly. o'reilly shortly after the verdict acquitting zimmerman. single black mothers are to blame for black crime by black youths. [ scooby-doo's "huh?" ] >> stephanie: this was more than one day topic? >> oh, yeah. this was where, you know, like don on cnn weighed in, supporting o'reilly and it also caused a bit of an uproar. but yeah.

you know, the fact that they -- that o'reilly did this and ann coulter agreed with him without giving any credence to the idea that institutional or social racism may play a role or may have played a role is just -- it just puts the whole thing to a lie. >> stephanie: yeah. and while you said at this point to say bill o'reilly says something ignorant ond racist is like saying bill o'reilly took a breath. he blames the entertainment industry for making thugs look glamorous which is something they never did in the early days of the flicks. >> they never made high-living gangsters look cool. >> top of the world! all of the films about italian mobsters -- it is not like say a lot of the -- a lot of people in gangs go around with scar face shirts which is exactly what

they do. they worship that movie which is about cuban gangsters. >> stephanie: exactly. you said coulter praises o'reilly for speaking truth. she gives a bunch of history statistics about how lyndon johnson ruined everything. in my family he did. but that's entirely different story. it is amazing. he just has preme on -- to support his thesis, right? with a bunch of -- >> that's it. he's had screaming fights with some of -- even people like kristin powers who is somewhat left of the fox news line. but -- >> barely. >> he'll get into screaming matches with them over things. and just, you know, i guess you can't get your point in by rhetoric, you have to use a jackhammer on some -- somebody's head. >> stephanie: you write a piece about mark thiessen. he said because people don't

trust president obama because of the i.r.s. scandal quote-unquote, national security will be harmed because congress might have rules governing nsa surveillance. you say if your reaction to that polling twist of irrationality isn't a -- [ bleep ], you're an idiot. i get upset about rude, there are people predictably on tv that will go on "meet the press" and whatever the story line is, president obama bad. that's the one they're going to find, right? >> exactly. and they're going to hang on to it. it was funny. this weekend, i went to a fair in new jersey. i walked past the tea party tent that was set up there. the local tea party tent. i told the people i was with -- oh, i'm going in! and so i go in and this guy comes up to me and shakes my hand and he says so, do you agree with the tea party? and i said not really. and you know, didn't want to

alienate him right off the bat. he said what about nsa surveillance? i said okay, yes, there is one thing we can agree on. the very next moment, he goes to and what about that i.r.s. scandal? >> oh, god! >> he starts telling me about you know, they targeted tea party organizations and they -- you know, they even asked people what books they read. they wanted book reports. book reports! >> they did not. oh, my god! >> from people. this is the head of the local tea party, what he's telling people that come into their tent. >> stephanie: yeah. >> it was very shortly after that, i looked outside the tent and said hey, the people i'm with are waving at me. >> stephanie: gotta go. >> if they try to spread lies like that, no wonder it is so easy to take them down when they call in. because we baffle them with facts. >> that's the thing is i said well, you know, actually, the bush white house, you know, they used the i.r.s. to target people. bush white house started the nsa surveillance and they'll say oh, but the tea party wasn't around

in the bush administration. i just wanted to say it is not all about you! >> stephanie: exactly right. that's the thing. once again, to me, under the busch administration, i mean that was political targeting whether it was -- i can't remember the church out here that was anti-war. you can go on and on, right, rude? >> joseph wilson. men can deliberately destroy someone's career and credibility. yeah. there was direct political targeting. i mean you know, we can argue over what the nsa is doing and i think you and i -- the point of agreement that we have is that these things do need review and they do need some kind of oversight and that, you know, what obama announced sounds like a great direction to go in. >> stephanie: right. but rude, that's what i'm saying. there are some people like that that are anti-government crazies, whoever they are.

my point is the government quote-unquote, it operates differently depending on who's running it. fema ran great under bill clinton. under george w. bush, not so much. jim brought up the c.i.a. well, yeah, when cheney and bush are ordering this tomorrow torture, what they're doing is not so great. i think the president has made, you know, more efforts than certainly any other administration has in this regard. >> right. [ laughter ] in some of the areas. again, in some of the things he discussed in the press conference, some of the unilateral disarmament of some of the powers by actually having some kind of oversight, that's great. but that's not -- >> stephanie: right. and the bush administration would never have done that. you know what i mean? at least this president looks at stuff and really does try to be fair about it. >> well, no. if there is one thing about the obama administration is when somebody brings up a concern, they address it and especially

when someone who is on -- sensibly supporting the obama administration, the bush administration used to dismiss it outright. oh, deficits aren't a problem. what are you talking about? a deficit? or simply saying that -- or simply painting you as a traitor. so you know, i'm glad that, you know, obama didn't go that far. if it had been the bush administration, it wouldn't have just been that edward snowden is not a patriot. it would have been he's a traitor and we'll be gitmoing him soon. >> stephanie: exactly. rudeness, some great rude stuff including the whole tokyo tank thing. really great tool. really good visual. >> google probably exploded for people trying to look that up. make sure safe search is off. >> i also just want to say real quick, i want to say to thank

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let's go to jay in chicago on this very same subject. hello, jay. hi, jay. >> caller: hello! >> stephanie: all right. hi, jay. i silenced him, clearly. >> caller: how are you? obama had three or four years to come clean with this. you wouldn't even be talking about this without snowden. you can't say he wants this conversation. you wouldn't even be having it unless somebody whistle blowed it. what do you have to say to that? >> that was funny. he does have a point. >> stephanie: how does he know that? >> come on. i was just reading an article about -- >> stephanie: yes? by alex jones? >> no. >> stephanie: glenn beck? >> shut up. if you look at this honestly, i don't think we would be having this conversation without snowden. >> stephanie: let's go back to -- all right. listen to the president. you tell me again. >> obama: i don't think mr. snowden was a patriot. as i said in my opening remarks,

i called for a thorough review of our surveillance operations before mr. snowden made these leaks. i actually think we would have gotten to the same place and we would have done so without putting at risk our national security. >> stephanie: the president's lying? the president is lying? >> i don't think that he would have gone public with it. >> stephanie: by the way, blowed is not a word, guy from chicago. >> the people in the intelligence committee have financial ties to the intelligence industry and they -- >> stephanie: okay so al franken is wrong, dianne feinstein is wrong? anybody who says that is wrong? >> alan grayson has been trying to get to the bottom of stuff and has been stonewalled. but oh, now you don't like alan grayson anymore. >> stephanie: i love alan grayson. i've said maybe times -- many times, he's a personal friend of mine. i don't know what you're

implying. we need people like alan grayson. there is a lot of stuff that he knows won't get passed but you know, he does it to shine a light on stuff. i'm obviously supporting him in a lot of it. >> grayson says he were to back similar legislation that rand paul was -- odd. talking about in the house adding that surveillance programs are fundamentally inconsistent with what america is all about. >> stephanie: rand paul is -- okay. >> that's alan grayson talking. >> stephanie: dutch roughers berger. >> talking about how do we educate the public. that we need this program. >> stephanie: let's go to gayle in sacramento. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, gayle. >> caller: hi, stephanie, the conversation is just really black and white on this when it's gray, it is actually gray. the president is responsible for whole national security. i can't imagine what that is. you know. what that responsibility is

like. so when he asks for additional funding for benghazi, he's turned down. benghazi happens. we have how many, you know, so he's damned if he does -- >> stephanie: then when he closes the embassies, he's accused of -- he did that because -- >> caller: cowardice. always weak on national security. that's how it will be will always be painted. nobody is happy with the surveillance. nobody is happy but what happens if you're given the job and you back something off or you don't pay for something that you asked for and something happens. then you get benghazi gate. and you are put under a sign. who will be the guy that's going to say okay, we're going to cut this program? >> stephanie: i hear you. >> under a frying pan would be in the fire. >> stephanie: under a microscope? i'm not sure what she meant.

al in buffalo. >> caller: let's not make the same mistake we made in 2010 complaining about the public option. are you listening? we don't have the political power to complain about nsa surveillance. we've got bridges to fix. we've got roads to fix. we need -- there's like how many bills still sitting on a shelf right now? i'll say this to my dismal allies, we can't allow green glen wald and edward snowed ton distract us from winning back the house. if the republicans get control of the executive branch, there isn't going to be a fisa court. there won't be any regulations. as a matter of fact, you can kiss the american dream good-bye because they're going to do whatever they want with the executive branch. >> stephanie: really? are we at the same place as we were under george bush? >> i'm just talking about the -- >> jim, who would you rather have? >> come on. obviously i want democrats in control. >> okay. well, we can't allow -- you know what i mean? >> i understand that. a lot of people in the intelligence committees have -- >> have financial ties to

intelligence companies. >> caller: i think this it is a right wing conspiracy. glen greenwald is not exactly someone you can trust. >> i agree with you there. >> stephanie: he made the story more about him. he was quoting last week, it was like the breathtaking arrogance thinking this is all because of him. you know. anyway. >> he's an ass. >> stephanie: edward snowden's father. really? >> my son has spoken the truth. he has sacrificed more than either the president of the united states or peter king have ever and the political careers or their american lives. >> stephanie: really. he's a hero and a patriot and the president is not. okay. go ahead. >> the intelligence committee exercised primary oversight of the nsa but the committees are, with the exception of a handful of members and the intelligence community generally. they receive much larger contributions from the defense and surveillance industries than noncommittee members.

feinstein, mike rogers and -- whose district includes nsa quarters near fort meade and the intelligence industry cash. they have a financial incentive to do the nsa's bidding. that's not really oversight. >> stephanie: right but okay, so you're saying that dianne feinstein, al franken, they don't care about america? don't care about keeping americans safe as well? >> not saying that. saying some of the contributions they may get from the intelligence -- >> may blind them somewhat. >> stephanie: 58 minutes after the hour. jacki schechner joins us next. we have the president bitch slapped the republicans on obamacare. >> that we can agree on. >> stephanie: jacki schechner next on "the stephanie miller show."

[ ♪ theme ] >> stephanie: current tv land, hour number two, jacki schechner, we'll dobbing a healthcare corner coming up. but of course our spinning class, someone has sent us -- we may have gotten this before. but because our listeners are helpers, a sex toy company based in the u.k. has released a new sex-vention, the happy ride, a vibrating bike seat cover. >> oh, goodness. >> i read that women go to the exercise classes specifically for the orgasmic effects of it. >> really? what conspiracy web site did you get that from?

>> alex jones report. >> stephanie: i know what i'm getting jacki schechner for christmas. it is called the happy ride. >> i'm good. thanks. >> stephanie: it comes with a discreet control to either raise or lower the vibration. >> because nobody in class would notice that. >> stephanie: the music is loud enough. they might not. >> we do ride by candlelight. it does set an ambience. >> what? candlelight? >> stephanie: and there's good chardonnay. jacki schechner in the current news center. >> good morning. senator chuck schumer saying this morning that instead of boycotting the olympic games this winter, nations should wave rainbow flags during the opening ceremony to show their opposition to russia's new anti-gay legislation. not a bad idea. schumer proposed the plan this morning adding the protest move would sufficiently embarrass vladimir putin but still allow the athletes to compete. during his press conference

on friday, president obama also dismissed the idea of a boycott. >> if russia doesn't have gay or lesbian athletes, then this probably will make their team weaker. one of the things i'm looking forward to is maybe some gay and lesbian athletes bringing home the gold, silver or bronze. >> a federal judge in new york has just ruled the nypd's stop and frisk tactics are a violation of tens of thousands of new yorkers' constitutional rights. the judge says that officers have been stopping and searching people on the streets for years without any significant reason to suspect wrongdoing and those actions are in viles of the fourth and 14th amendment. the 4th amendment protecting against unreasonable search and seizure. the judge will assign an outside lawyer to make sure the police department complies with the law going forward. the two-month nonjury trial examined the results of 4.43 million stops over the course of

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♪ it's a beautiful day ♪ don't let it get away >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. six minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. where is my little friend, jacki schechner joins us now. ♪ schechner again >> stephanie: good morning, nurse jacki. >> good morning. >> stephanie: i know what i'm getting you by the way at the top of the hour, the happy ride which is a -- actually, it is a bike seat cover for spinning class. and it has a little vibrator in

the middle of the seat. >> yeah, that's not something that i think i would like to have. >> stephanie: $37 or priceless. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: just saying. >> could i move it from my hybrid road bike to my spinning bike? >> stephanie: exactly. i think it is a seat cover. it is portable. >> can we get back to this riding in candlelight thing? >> stephanie: oh, yes, there is am beons in our spinning class. it is dark and there are candles. >> the idea is -- it is not about looking at each other. >> does the fire department know about this? >> stephanie: they do now. >> it is insane. >> the idea is there's no judgment. you're riding essentially in the dark. >> what does it do to the oxygen in the room? it sucks all of the oxygen out of the room. you're breathing in pure co2. >> you're breathing in wick smoke. >> nay-sayers or sucking all of the oxygen out of the room. >> stephanie: i think it is dark so the nsa can rifle through your gym bag. >> they're going through all of the lockers.

>> stephanie: jacki schechner, how about that bitch slap the president gave republicans on obamacare. here he is friday. >> obama: my friends in the other party have made the idea of preventing these people from getting healthcare their holy grail. their number one priority. the one unifying principal. >> stephanie: you've said this all along, jacki. it was hard to seize control of this debate until it started actually kicking in, right? >> that's the problem is it took a long time to implement because we're talking about a heavy lift here. we knew it was going to be awhile before everything could snap into place. it is going to be a moving -- moving along -- the process will continue. we're not going to get everything up and running perfectly right off the bat. but now that we're starting to see some of the positive effects and the news stories coming out about how much premiums could drop and how many people are going to have access to healthcare, health insurance at least, that didn't have it before. the president is now, i think is

getting stronger which is nice. unfortunately, we're still getting all of the rumors and the myths and people are sending me notes asking me to debunk the craziness that's still out there. but it is nice at least to see the president coming out strongly saying what he is. >> stephanie: i sent you his piece in salon, how obama turned obamacare into a weapon. but that's what they were saying after friday. he actually flipped the script on republicans who remain on be saysed with repealing it. this is the president again friday. president obama on friday. here he is. >> oh, shoot. >> stephanie: or maybe not. okay. >> obama: at least they used to say, we're going to replace it with something better. there is not even a pretense they're going to replace it with something better. i've been hearing about this replace thing for two years. now i just don't hear about it because basically they don't have an agenda to provide health insurance to people. >> there never was a

replacement. never along the way was there a replacement. they just wanted to repeal it. that's been the rhetoric. >> stephanie: also, i think it is good that he really like stayed on point. he said all of the benefits i just mentioned, kids staying on their parent's plan, seniors getting discounts, the return to insurance, people with pre-existing conditions being blocked from getting health insurance. it benefits us politically they're going to the extreme of saying they're going to shut the government down over trying to keep 30 million people from getting the benefits. >> yeah, that's as simple as it is. i've been thinking about this a lot lately. i would love to know what exactly it is that people object so strongly to. i think instead of coming out with the talking points we've been hearing over and over again and people say it is obamacare and it is a government-run program and death panel. what specifically do you think is in there that you're objecting to so vehemently? because i don't think anybody has any idea, any of the people who were against it. frankly, at this point, i'm starting to think some of the republican lawmakers don't have

any idea what's in it. >> stephanie: right. also, the salon piece goes to same thing you've always said. a year ago, two years ago, the law's core benefits were abstractions. there wasn't a lot of margin in defending them because they weren't part of people's lived experiences. this is what they're afraid of. salon writes, it is all about to change. uninsurance rates are about to drop quickly. repeal will take on a much different meaning. and i think that's exactly what we're seeing as we see one headline after another from one state after another. that's exactly what they fear. >> yeah, there is an often misquoted sound byte from nancy pelosi awhile back before we passed the healthcare people where people like to say we need to pass it so we can see what's in it. that's how it is misquoted. i went back and i watched the original press conference where she made the remarks and what she was saying in context, if you watch it, is that once we pass the law and people see

what's in it, none of the rumors or rhetoric will have the traction they do now. >> stephanie: right. >> if you go back and watch the clip in its entirely, that's exactly what she says but the snippet has been taken out of context and circulated widely over the last few years and people quote pelosi as saying you need to pass it so we know what's in it, using that as an argument to say nobody read the bill. they're going to pass it under the cloak of midnight and secrecy of the dark. so i would advise people to just go back and if you're hearing the same things over and over again, to just take a look at the root of them. a lot of times, they've been so distorted over the last few years, they hold no credibility. they never did in the first place. but they hold no water or credibility anymore and when your friends are saying that this is the case, i would go back and take a look at the origins because i was surprised when i heard that originally and i went back and looked and said that's not what she said at all. >> stephanie: what she's saying more importantly goes to the point of exactly what we're saying now is this is exactly what's happening.

once people are living and seeing what the benefits are, this is exactly when the president can seize the debate. i think he really did friday, right? >> right. yes. i wish he had done it sooner. i really do. i'm a firm believer of there's no benefit of compromising in public and there's no benefit in seceding ground to the other side. i think democrats being weak on healthcare reform and the president not being as strong on it as he possibly could all along has been problematic. >> stephanie: it is a little ridiculous democrats ran against it and now they're going to run -- oh, no, no, i was always behind obamacare! >> it is really stupid. i wish they had bothered to take a look at the details and realized what they were allegedly running against because i just don't think that the people who are screaming the loudest know necessarily what they're screaming about it. is the whole government hands off my medicare. >> stephanie: thank you, queen segue because the headline about john boner is the mistake so nice he made it twice. for the second time in less than a week, speaker boner sent out a

link on his twitter account which claimed one thing while exposing another. he tweeted a link to a story from south carolina which proclaims rates will rise 50% to 70% blah, blah, blah. it is completely inaccurate. >> how about 1,000%. >> i think he's counting on people not reading. i would imagine unless he's just that accident-prone. >> stephanie: right. >> but i think he is probably counting on people not clicking through. you know, the other thing i think is important to note in the wake of the howard dean editorial and some of the questions people are asking is just because people who support the affordable care act have concerns with it or questions about it doesn't mean that they're against it altogether. the unions have some issues with it. and some -- i'm sure some corporations have some issues with it. i mean everybody does, right? it is not perfect. we're talking about a huge list to change our healthcare system. >> stephanie: uh-oh. what happened to jacki?

>> i blame snowden. >> stephanie: snowden has cut her line. she will call us back. i wanted to get her take, interesting in the same article about boner. many of the republican-controlled states have done all they can to try to sabotage the law driving up healthcare premiums because they don't want the law to work and they're doing all this he can to ensure it doesn't while states like california, new york, oregon and washington are reporting premiums lower than expected because they allowed the law to work. i'm curious how that's going to play out state to state. that's exactly -- they're going to say see, it doesn't work. because they did everything they could to sabotage it. all right. we're getting jacki back. let's -- jerry in los angeles. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, jerry. >> caller: hi, good morning, steph. >> stephanie: good morning. go ahead. >> caller: here is a major objection. if you live in southern california like i do, los angeles, cedars-sinai or ucla will not accept any of the plans on the exchange. you will not be able to get into

cedars-sinai or ucla if you buy your healthcare plan on the exchange. >> stephanie: on any of the companies on the exchange? >> caller: will not be accepted at cedars-sinai ucla, they have said already. all of the benefits you're expressing, they weren't given away for free. everybody's premiums went up because kids under 26 are accepted. >> stephanie: premiums have gone down in california. >> caller: they have not gone down in california. nobody listening to this station has had reduced premiums because of the new healthcare plan. everybody's plans have gone up. yeah, they've given. >> little bit of rebate every year but that's a fraction compared to how much healthcare premiums have gone up over the last four years. >> stephanie: that's not because of obamacare. that's because of your insurance company. >> right. >> caller: yeah, yeah -- >> stephanie: hang on, jerry. let me lock you down here. let me lock jacki down. jacki, i don't know if you're listening to jerry. he said people's premiums have gone up.

>> that has to do with the insurance companies raising the premiums to try to pad their profits before can anything goes into place. >> caller: no, they've raised the premiums because now they have to cover people until 26. now they have unlimited premiums. >> that's absolutely untrue. >> caller: i see. so they're giving away the extra benefits at no cost to them. they're just being a nice company and just going to give coverage until 26 because they want to. >> no. the number of kids allowed to stay on their parent's plan until 26 does make that kind of a dent in the insurance company's premium expenditures. in addition to that, you're talking about young people who don't consume a lot of healthcare on average anyway. >> okay, look, clearly premiums have gone up a lot. maybe close to 50 first. getting back to the ucla and cedars-sinai -- >> the law hasn't gone into effect yet. that's what you don't seem to understand. the law hasn't gone into effect

yet. >> parts went into effect. insurance until 26 has gone into effect. that's why companies are raising their premiums. >> no, it's not. that's not true. >> that's your opinion. >> , no it's not. it is a fact. i know the law incredibly well. >> stephanie: jacki, the other thing jerry was saying -- >> caller: ucla and cedars-sinai will not accept any of the plans on the exchange. that's a fact. that will be a big problem. most people who know, the two best healthcare programs in california. >> where did you read this? i would love to see the article? >> they've announced it. they won't accept any of the insurance companies on the exchange. >> why would that be? >> because it will be so low to the hospital, they don't want to accept the plans. >> wait. the plans aren't -- the amount of reimbursement hasn't been announced in terms of how much they're going to reimburse. they're regular insurance plans.

the same insurance plans people are getting through their employer. it is the same companies. they're all private companies. >> caller: i'm a physician. every insurance plan reimburses a different amount for different procedures to different facilities. look it up. ucla, cedars-sinai will not accept the plans. i have to go right now. i'm starting surgery. you'll call back tomorrow. >> okay, jerry. >> stephanie: all right. >> i love how the surgeon calls the talk show. >> stephanie: interesting he had time for that. but he has to go scrub up now. >> i've got no time. >> i'm a physician. >> i'm a physician that called into your radio show right before i go do surgery. >> stephanie: i had already called [ bleep ] on that call before he said going into surgery now. can you hang on? we lost you there for a couple of minutes. one more block. 19 minutes after the hour. right back with more jacki's healthcare corner next on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: i got her number

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someone tweeted us that -- hello, i'm a physician who just stumbled upon your show as i'm a new small business owner. i like to listen to both sides. nurse jacki is back with us again. [ ♪ hypnotic ] hello, jacki schechner. >> i want to make some remarks about the cedars-sinai thing we were talking about before the break because i've done a little bit of research. anything you read from betsy mccoy, you should dismiss as baloney. people are linking to a "new york post" article. she's been an opponent of healthcare reform since the clinton days. she's totally dishonest. there is nothing you can hear from her that is of truth. >> yes, but i'm a physician so you have to listen to me. >> stephanie: i'm getting ready for surgery and i must scrub up. [ ♪ hypnotic ] >> there is a report about cedars-sinai saying that it is not going to accept healthcare plans that participate in the exchange. that's a hospital decision. and if the hospital is choosing not to participate in that network or exchange, then that's up to the hospital to do that if it wants to. but i don't think it has

anything to do with reimbursement rates because we don't know what these plans are going to reimbursement. the reason why costs have gone down is because the insurance companies have agreed to take a lower profit margin to participate in the exchange because they know they'll be getting more people, more customers. >> stephanie: let's get a couple more in here. mike in atlanta, you're on with jacki. go ahead, mike. >> caller: hi, there. >> stephanie: hi. >> caller: i'm and an anesthesiologist for the last guy who called in so i have to do this really quick. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: i love it. >> caller: i'm from georgia and my beautiful governor is not putting us in the exchanges. i'm 45 years old in good health. i want to get on the exchange. i want to be part of it. not just for the insurance but to help them move along. what do i do? is there going to be a national plan for me? do i just have to move? >> no. don't move because i hear georgia is lovely. >> caller: no, you have no idea what it's like down here.

no idea. >> what i will say is the states that have chosen not to set up their own exchanges will have the federal government set up the exchange for them. it is great irony of the state lawmakers who want state's rights. and don't want to participate. the default in the healthcare law is that the federal government will set up an exchange. >> when does that start, jacki? >> it will be open for enrollment beginning of october and it will be up and running for actual usage beginning of january like all of the other ones. >> and again, to make a point about the last guy, the reason -- the rates are going up since -- for years and years. before there were discussions about obamacare. an average of 20% every year. that's why i don't have insurance anymore, i couldn't afford it. it kept going up. the problem was even when -- the rates were going up, the co-pays were going up and you know, the out-of-pocket was going up. it wasn't like you were getting

a better plan for more money. they were giving me less for the coverage. >> that's why we felt we needed to do something. >> absolutely. >> people don't seem to understand is that you couldn't leave the system the way it was because people -- it was more and more unaffordable and you weren't getting any benefits for your money. i think people were complaining about what the exchange will and won't have, have to keep something else in mind. we're talking about people who otherwise have no access to medical care. >> stephanie: right. very good point. pat in tacoma, you're on with jacki. >> caller: i was listening to that guy from california. he's full of it. [ laughter ] >> caller: i have cousins down there and they have seen their insurance plans come down and they're not on medicare yet. i'm on medicare and i saw new stuff as of last year. i saw more stuff on medicare but

i had a friend call me and told me how sorry she felt for me because obamacare was killing medicare and i had to set her straight. >> well, thank you for doing that. it is important. >> caller: yeah, because -- >> stephanie: i'm sorry, go ahead, jacki. >> it is important people do that because the reality is that we're going to be fine. everybody is going to be okay. what we're doing is giving access to health insurance and thereby medical care, healthcare to people who otherwise wouldn't have it. we're not cutting medicare. there are no death panels. there are kinks in the system. we'll work them out. nobody is dying. nobody is being shoved into a government-run program like -- everyone needs to calm down. >> stephanie: you heard it. everyone calm the [ bleep ] down. nurse jacki. thank you, honey. >> stephanie: 29 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." but still support the drug war,

you must be high. >> i think the number one thing that viewers like about "the young turks" is that we're honest. i think the audience gets that i actually mean it. >> you're putting out there something that you're proud of. journalists want the the story and they want the right story and the want the true story. >> you can say anything here. >> i spent a couple of hours with a hooker. >> your mistake was writing a check. >> she never cashed it! >> the war room. >> compared to other countries with tighter gun safety laws, our death toll is just staggering. >> the young turks. >> the top bankers who funneled all the money to the drug lords, no sentence. there's just no justice in that. >> viewpoint. mitt romney is a lock to win next pope. he's garunteeing it. >> joy behar: say anything. >> is the bottom line then that no white person should ever, ever, ever use the "n" word? >> yes! >> only on current tv.

>> hey, in my day, women didn't make a sound. >> stephanie: 34 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. cindy in michigan. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, cindy. >> caller: hello. >> stephanie: hello. >> caller: hello, hello. i wanted to say something about the privatizing of our intelligence but i just wanted to make one comment about the healthcare because of the conversation i want to thank you for having jacki on because she puts those facts out there.

>> stephanie: there is nothing better than her bitch slap fake physicians. >> caller: people out here think that obamacare is an it. i don't want to be on it. i always tell them it is not an it. there are all different plans depending on what you want to do, what's good for you. you will have a lot of choices. and they're shocked when i tell them that. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: that's the thing about healthcare. i want to say but privatizing our intelligence, you know, that's been going on since way back when. and world war ii and korea. we used to have trw, that was one of those companies that gathered a ton of banking and credit reports and intelligence and collated all of that. the rand corporation which robert mcnamara actually came out of. not only did they work that data, they also mentioned and they did polling and they

manipulated data so that the vietnam war would go on longer which is what the pentagon papers were all about. and you know, when private corporations got their hands on this part of doing this kind of storage, they're not really going to give that up easy. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: we can do all of the exposure -- i sometimes think glen greenwald and assange are working for the right wing corporations more -- >> i don't know about that. >> caller: the reason i say that -- give me a chance. i say that with a certain tongue in cheek. the reason i say that is because they've already told us things that we know have been happening for a long time. there really isn't a lot of brand new stuff and the things that are getting out are very distracting from other things and i do agree with that one caller. we can shoot ourselves in the foot in this next off-year election and we'll have even more republicans in there. i know the democrats do take

money from these corporations. i'm always curious as to what percentage of their funds go there. is it a ton of money? and they're totally in their clutches? or is it just because those corporations spread their money around like manure, everybody gets it? >> stephanie: i think that's closer to it. >> they spread it around like manure depending on who sits on what committee. >> stephanie: matt in san francisco. you're on the "the stephanie miller show." hi, matt. hello, matt. matt, going once, going twice. mark in delaware. hello, mark. >> caller: hi. >> stephanie: go ahead. >> caller: i wonder if anybody caught priebus this weekend on cnn. he was being challenged about why republicans aren't united on defeating obamacare and he said it was a tactical split and that we should be focusing more on why there's 30 democrats who don't like obamacare. i really couldn't follow what that was all about. >> what? >> stephanie: oh, no. i tuned in that interview in mid

whine, mid reince priebus which is not good. >> not the good kind of whining. >> stephanie: republicans are the ones ow nighted on repealing obamacare -- the democrats are -- >> i thought you were talking about mid whine on a sunday. >> stephanie: different kind of whine. hang over from the other kind of wine is not a good time to tune into that kind of whine. kevin on pennsylvania, you're on the "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, how are you guys? >> stephanie: good. >> caller: i'm an independent person. >> stephanie: you like to listen to both sides. >> caller: i'm listening on the news about the healthcare bill, about how congress is going to exempt themselves from this. [ buzzer ] can you guarantee me this is not going to happen? >> stephanie: yes, i can. jacki debunked that point last week, as you'll recall.

if obamacare is so great, how come people on capitol hill don't want it? i believe jacki explained that whole thing. i think someone has obama derangement syndrome. >> benghazi. >> we all live our lives and take our ability to understand reality. >> there he is. >> meet skeeter. >> he's the liar in chief. >> while the rest of us are told not to text and drive, skeeter struggles with basic motor skills. he has obama derangement syndrome. many people thought a cure was near in 2012 but the skeeters of the world remind us we have so far to go. do your part now by texting read a friggin' book to any yahoo! news comment. >> stephanie miller is a race traitor. >> together we can help the skeeters of world find their way out of their bubble and into our solar system. help save a skeeter from hurting himself.

[ applause ] >> stephanie: oh, lord. yeah, did you see harry reid is underfire for saying he hopes g.o.p. hatred of obama is not because of racism. it goes to what cindy in michigan said. when you ask people about all of the provisions about obama care, they like them. why are you against it? uh, obama. they just hate -- i don't know whether it is racism. it is hilarious how they went crazy. harry reid was on a radio station on friday. he's talking about the unprecedented on structionism -- obstructionism. in response to caller's questions about conservatives hoping for obama's failure, reid brought up mitch mcconnell's one-term for obama pledge and said that republicans opposing everything he does, i hope it is based on substance and not the fact he's an african-american. a spokesman for the republican blah, blah, blah, insane. [ cuckoo clock chimes ] insane that anyone would have implied there was racism.

>> they seem to have gotten really defensive really quick. >> stephanie: just a couple of stories from the weekend. reuters, here is a woman outside obama motorcade with the kenyan go home sign and a honk to impeach obama. then there's the missouri state fair. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] did you hear about that this weekend? >> oh, yes. >> stephanie: the rodeo clown was wearing an obama mask. clown wearing a president obama mask appeared at a missouri state rodeo this weekend. the announcer asked the enthusiastic spectators if they wanted to see obama run down by a bull. >> nice. >> stephanie: to which everybody screamed and went wild lieutenant-governor pete kinder denounced the performance in a tweet. he said it was disrespectful to the president. we're better than this, the republican tweeted. >> computer says no. >> stephanie: actually, clearly, you're not. a spectator said everybody screamed when the announcer talked about having the bull run down the clown with the obama mask. another one ran up to the obama

mask and played with the lips on the mask. get it? because lips are -- right. they mention the president's name. he said i don't know, 100 times. it was sickening. it was feeling like a clan rally you would see on tv. so, that happened. [ applause ] >> when you have to scold your constituency to not be racist, you have a problem. just sayin'. >> stephanie: just sayin'. roger in michigan. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hello, roger. >> caller: how you doing, stephanie? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: love your show. i love listening to jacki because i'men insurance agent here in michigan and i learn a lot from jacki. i had attended a meeting where there were a couple of the top healthcare providers here in michigan were present. a couple of spokespeople. a number of -- most of the agents are not happy with the new healthcare. it is going to raise the costs.

anyway, one of the providers -- the spokesperson said he basically was feeding into it, not much. mainly the other agents and the top guy who was at the meeting who was really -- getting into it. the other healthcare provider, the spokesperson who was representing a company that has already been working with some of the provisions in the affordable care act, he got up there and he was totally -- told us how great it was going to be. it was not something that we should really be fearful of. you should have heard the hush -- well, you should have seen the hush that fell over the room. one of the top guys who was bashing obama and the healthcare got up and talked about oh, this is great. this is going to be fantastic. but i just want to mention that i think it is going to be a great thing as an insurance agent and i think it will work out really well for people. they shouldn't be fearful of it.

>> stephanie: all right, honey. jim, sarah palin spoke this weekend so there is comedy. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] chris christie will be thrilled about this. she's on team rand. former -- >> you go with that. great idea. >> stephanie: the quitter from twitter. sarah palin said she sided with rand paul in the on-going feud between the kentucky senator and new jersey governor chris christie. oh she was on fox news. jim, i can only -- if you read it, i can only -- because it is a lot of palin -- here are her thoughts. >> got the whole -- don't tread on me government. chris christie is for big government and trying to go along to get along in so many respects. some people -- he's a governor -- he's got youtube videographer following him around. set up situations sometimes. can seen perhaps as -- chris

christie is for government. rand paul with healthy libertarian that we need more of. team rand paul. >> stephanie: okay. it is more palatable when jim reads it. >> barely. barely. no. >> stephanie: that's an actually sentence and ya know, some people look at him as amen, he's a governor who goes rogue. >> did you say -- >> stephanie: in what respect, charlie? >> oh, my god! >> in what respect, charlie? >> in so many respects. >> all of the respects. >> stephanie: i'm on team rand. rand paul understands, he gets the whole notion. trying to go along to get along in so many respects. in that respect, charlie. >> there are so many respects out there. there's too many. >> stephanie: oh, dear god. >> you are on idiot, ha, ha, ha

harks, ha, ha, ha. >> stephanie: okay. 45 minutes after the hour. chris christie, thrilled, i'm sure. thrilled with that. rand paul is the damian. >> bring it on. >> stephanie: of the republican party. all for you, rand. >> by the time they got around to the omen part three, he was running for president. >> stephanie: right back on "the stephanie miller show." [ laughter ] >> come on! it's brilliant! >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show."

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>> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ everybody was kung fu fighting ♪ ♪ fast as lightning ♪ little bit frightening ♪ expert timing >> stephanie: yes, it is the "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 51 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. kathy in oklahoma. hi, kathy. >> caller: hi, steph. oh, my goodness. i'm just concerned about this attitude of the employers about being afraid of obtaining healthcare insurance money under obamacare. more than ever on the other side of the equation having to be the work that needed the healthcare.

in a mentality where no one ever provided it for me when i was coming up and i'm a success so they shouldn't have to worry about it either. it is a terrible -- it is like a a -- he goes well, it never hurt me none so i'm going to kick my kids around, too. >> stephanie: jacki has said it over and over again. employers used to want to give health insurance to get and keep good employees. by and by, when jacki was mentioning at the top of the last hour about putin, i believe. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] i think it was -- dick durbin -- no, chuck schumer was saying don't boycott the olympics but everyone should wave a rainbow flag. i love that idea. somebody tweeted over the weekend. amsterdam marked putin's visit by flying gay pride flags on all of the buildings.

they made it a rainbow crosswalk. >> look, we accidentally started nuclear strike against holland and sweden. >> stephanie: he will have rainbows following him everywhere. >> johnny weir said he's prepared to go to the winter olympics in russia and get arrested. >> stephanie: good for him. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] gay people's hearts unsuitable for life says head of russia's state-controlled tv news. since 2008, dmitri -- that guy -- has been the deputy general director of the russian state television. >> he's bad, i meant. >> stephanie: on russia's number one top news show which airs all across russia every two hours. he told his fellow russian citizens that the hearts of lgbt people are unsuitable for life. he said i think just imposing fines on gays among teenagers is not enough. he continues saying gay people should be banned from donating blood, sperm, adds in their hearts in the case of an

automobile accident should be buried in the ground or unsuitable for the continuation of life. >> oh, my god! >> stephanie: he means their actual hearts. apparently he believes that his fellow russians should die than accept a heart transplant from a gay or lesbian or transgender human being. russia is part of a larger tv network wholly controlled by the kremlin and they were saying this wouldn't happen on state television without putin's approval. >> wow. >> things are getting -- like really backwards. >> stephanie: i wonder if he would like to test that theory if the only option was to have a gay person's organ. >> and a gay doctor doing the transplant. >> stephanie: i wonder if that would -- would it lend itself -- added to a change of some kind? >> wakes up from the anesthesia. hey. hey, girl. >> somebody gave me gay heart! and not rebecca gayheart.

>> obama: i don't have a bad personal relationship with putin. when we have conversations, they're candid, they're blunt. oftentimes, they're constructive i know the press likes to focus on body language and he's got that kind of slouch looking like the bored kid in the back of the classroom. but the truth is that when we're in conversations together, oftentimes, it is very productive. >> stephanie: all right. bit way, you know what's not productive? fox news in any way. fox news suggests obama only wants gay cast base. leave it to them to take something he said. i do not think it is appropriate to boycott the olympics over the russia's anti-gay laws. he is looking forward some gay athletes bringing home the gold, silver or bronze. if russia doesn't have gay or

lesbian athletes, it will probably make their teams weaker. leave it to fox news contributor. >> those people. >> stephanie: he tweeted obama wants gay athletes to win medals. it sounds like the president is suggesting a litmus test. right! that's exactly what the president said. [ buzzer ] implying president obama only wants gay olympic athletes which is ludicrous. there are some fun facts for the record. lgbt out olympic athletes won 11. why can't president obama support all of our olympic athletes regardless of -- >> oh, god! >> stephanie: regardless of sexual orientation. oh, god. >> that's our gay fun facts music. >> stephanie: thank you. >> you're welcome. >> stephanie: thank you. would you like some more fox anti-gay stuff for the heck of it? fox news contributor sandy rios,

her -- >> yes. i think you have debated her. >> stephanie: sadly, i think i have. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] try to erase that from my memory. i did not pull out her weeds. she and chicago pastorrer win agreed on the association family american radio show that love is no reason to allow gay couples to get married. after all, pedophiles, kidnappers and rapists probably love their victims for all we know. a pedophile says he loves children. as a matter of fact, he does but you can see how destructive that love is said the pastor guy. rios took it a step further. >> of course she did. >> stephanie: comparing the love of same-sex same-sex couple love castro had for amanda barry. he loved his family, child born of one of the rapes of the woman he loved. he said i'm not a monster.

that was her particular edition of really bad analogies. [ applause ] would you like to know what else is out there on the fringe? representative ted yoho, that guy who is a bet bit of a yahoo of florida, more than eager to throw his support behind a birther legislation. he's on board with the accusation that president obama's tax on tanning beds is, wait for it, racist. >> discriminatory against white people? >> stephanie: yeah. >> white people who want to be browner. he hates them. >> stephanie: wake up white people. new guy in the white ring fringe, representative markwayne mullin. >> markwayne is one word. >> stephanie: right. i think that tells you all that you need to know. >> wait until you hear what he has to say. >> stephanie: 58 minutes after the hour. "the stephanie miller show."

[ ♪ theme ] >> stephanie: all right. current tv. hour number three. jacki schechner, i have a leftover question from jacki's healthcare corner. >> make it quick because i have to scrub up and gheet surgery. >> stephanie: perfect. somebody had written a piece on this. they said here is my bold prediction, almost every state who opposes obamacare will see premiums higher and other states will see healthcare premiums lower than expected. what do you think? >> it will be a self-fulfilling prophecy? that it will be all hype? >> stephanie: no, that the republican states who have done all they can to not have it

work, the premiums will go up as opposed to states that are cooperating, do you think there is validity to that? >> i don't think that will be the case at all. i think it will be a market demand situation. people will get access to healthcare and the premiums will go down because the insurance companies realize in order to get the new customers, they'll have to be affordable. >> stephanie: even in republican-controlled states. >> yeah, because a lot of the states aren't setting up exchanges and the federal government will do it for them. >> stephanie: here she is, jacki schechner. >> almost all u.s. diplomatic facilities in north africa and the middle east are back open today after being closed for a week due to fears of an al-qaeda attack. 18 of the 19 consulates and embassies will be fully operational within the next few days. the only exception is the embassy in yemen. that threat alert is still high and the u.s. has now made at least nine drone strikes in the past two weeks killing 38 suspected al-qaeda militants. secretary of state john kerry

may have to work a little harder now that he's traveling to south america this week. here you see a picture of him arriving in bogota. this is all happening in the wake of edward snowden's nsa disclosures and the information has at least brazilian and colom colombian officials asking extra questions about prophecies. kerry's first visit to south america as secretary of state. his attention -- intention was to focus on trade and energy and show u.s. support for current talks that are happening now between colombian government officials and the powerful revolutionary armed forces. attorney general eric holder is speaking before the american bar association today and he's going to call for changes to our nation's criminal justice system. holder wants to get rid of some mandatory minimum sentencing which would incarcerate too many nonviolent offenders and drive up costs. he will recommend the release of seniors or sick inmate who are expensive. the prison system is estimated

to be 40% over capacity. we're back after the break.

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abilities is trying to look out for us." only on current tv! of>> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 1-800-steph-12 toll free from anywhere. marcus in north carolina says it is no longer box wine. the classy term is carbordeaux. drunk stack meets funeral husband stack. a police say university of iowa

student arrested on public intoxication, said of course i'm drunk. it is thursday night in iowa city. >> that's a man after your own heart. [ applause ] >> stephanie: okay. kind of drunk stack meets perv stack. something for all of us. florida cop has he in male drunk driver punch him in the [ bleep ] [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] >> okay. all right. >> stephanie: guess he likes that sort of thing. prosecutors in where else -- >> florida -- >> stephanie: are going after a police officer after he had a female drunken driver punch him in the genitals during a traffic stop. officer stopped two female drivers after they had left a vegas strip club. he threatened the two women with arrests, directed them to near a parking lot where another officer met them. ordered one to have intercourse with him while the other one made a simple request to punch him in the [ bleep ] officer moran, asked victim, name withheld to punch him in

the nuts. officer hartley encouraged the act by telling the puncher tom really enjoys this. >> oh, my god! >> stephanie: okay. >> that's a thing? >> in other in other word -- florida news -- >> woman drops purse with forgotten purse inside and shoots friend in the leg. >> stephanie: all right. speaking of annoying stories, i had jim read the sarah palin transcript on the fact she's team rand because you know, sometimes governor christie says he's going rogue but he's not exactly going rogue because i don't know. [ whatever! ] i can't remember all of the word salad. >> the story of america. by the time the pilgrims came over on the mayflower and invented moving and storage, everyone knew that america would be special. but then the king exfoliated tyranny and everybody's tea was taxied and sam adams saw an

opportunity to sell beer and to tell the readers the british from coming but jiminy crockett and david bowie fought bravely. now our freedoms are threatened by people who think they're better than you because they can spell correctly and don't use all caps. they hold little regard for us individuals who aren't separated by barbed wire fences or the full-length of their terms. america is a land of opportunity. with your help, we can make sure our children have the same rights to obesity, rabid ignorance, semi-automatic rifles and a deal for reality tv that we have. god bless everyone. >> stephanie: thank you, sara. thank you. [ applause ] >> stephanie: what's more annoying than that? probably only turtle sex that includes dana loesch, mitch mcconnell and cody the

screaming dog. ♪ oh, baby [dana loesch screaming] >> now, it's a party! >> stephanie: not until cody gets there. ♪[cody screaming] >> is that a cop who likes to get punched in the nads? >> yes. >> stephanie: all right. >> dana loesch is punching. >> stephanie: that is weird, weird, weird. thank you, rocky mountain mike. i don't mean to imply that any guy with two first names is a first name is an idiot. i'm just saying markwayne mullin

mullin -- representative markwayne mullin, republican of oklahoma, unfortunately, while he believes all vile evidence proves barack obama was born in kenya. he's afraid it is late to do anything about it. this was at a town hall. he said oh, i think orly taitz was probably there. the birther -- asking him to do whatever -- >> your friend. >> stephanie: we lost the opportunity to get another president. let's move on to some other issues. >> he was born in honolulu. i'm look at the certificate of live birth. >> stephanie: there's more. he believes physically fit people -- he saw a physically fit people -- he said fraud. 100% of it all is fraud. it is all over the place.

[ applause ] >> so only fat people can get food stamps. >> stephanie: apparently, yes. don't they usually use the argument that how can you be starving if you're fat? [ whatever! ] >> stephanie: oh, markwayne. >> he's adorbs. of. >> stephanie: you think it was an argument between the parents as to whether to name him mark or wayne? >> conflict resolution. >> stephanie: case casey in texas. >> caller: i need to get you off of speaker. >> stephanie: okay, thank you. >> caller: what i wanted to speak to was the fact that the fourth amendment applies to when you have an expectation of privacy and since the beginning of the internet, they've said that you have no expectation of privacy and also when cell phones first started, they said they're radio waves and you have no expectation of privacy there

either. >> stephanie: that's what i've often said. i think a lot of this technology has outpaced where we used to be on these issues. >> stephanie: by the way, senator john mccain talking about russia and putin. >> mr. snowden's being granted asylum in russia is a signal of incredibly bad relations between the united states and russia and mr. putin putting his thumb right in america's eye. >> stephanie: why don't we just putter our hand up by our eye? billy in texas, long time no talking point. hi, bill. >> caller: hello. >> stephanie: hi, billie. >> caller: i wanted to call this morning. i've been listening. i used to administer employee benefit plans. i can tell you firsthand, there's no more chicken outfit in the world than an insurance company. they're heartless, all about the

money. and i get that. and it's gotten worse through the years. the problem that i have with obamacare is if you think that insurance companies are heartless, wait until the federal government starts running this. >> stephanie: the federal government is not running it. >> all they're doing is putting together a marketplace where private insurance companies can compete for your money. >> they can compete for my money right now. >> stephanie: mm-hmm. so you think insurance companies were already operating as death panels. aren't they the ones who decide what they'll cover, what they won't? >> caller: well, that's the point. we can put laws in place. there are already laws against discriminating for pre-existing conditions. that's already on the books. >> stephanie: not before obamacare it wasn't. not before obamacare it wasn't. oh, for god's sakes, he's just going to blah, blah, blah. try again on thom hartmann or ed

schulz. he still gets his check as long as he gets through on any of our shows. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] >> stephanie: if you have the stamina, hang on for randi rhodes. eric cantor signals to g.o.p. colleagues they should fcu about a government shutdown. >> it is not helping. >> i don't think he used the f ftfu. >> stephanie: no one is advocating a government shutdown. >> your party kind of is. >> stephanie: your defund obama kind of is. >> you're making bitch face here. >> stephanie: they're making eric cantor even bitch facier. okay. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] ted cruz getting an early start on 2016. >> he can't even run for president because he wasn't born in america. >> i was born in canada and i have a really high voice. >> so what is he doing? >> i'm being discriminated

against. >> stephanie: he's winning over iowans. he claims he was in iowa to escape the august heat in texas. he's just starting out as a lying sack of crap. ♪ you're a lying sack of crap ♪ you're a lying sack of crap >> stephanie: for the family leader conference on saturday. cruds nominally framed his remarks around the effort to defund obamacare by shutting down the blah, blah, blah. he cited the need for a grassroots army to rise up to stop obamacare and try to build its ranks. unless he has anthony wiener problem -- that's a little -- [ "price is right" losing horn ] [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] >> stephanie: that's what donald trump says, at least he's being consistent. he reignited the birther issue of course. question of legitimacy of barack obama's birth certificate. again. was there is a bit certificate,

trump asked? you tell me. some people say -- i'm saying i don't know. nobody knows. you don't know either, jonathan. you don't know either. pretty convinced he was born in the u.s. ah, pretty convinced, trump said rolling over his objections he was 100%. karl asked trump if the canadian-born cruz was eligible for office. if he was born in canada, perhaps not. that will be ironed out. if he says he was born in canada, that's his thing. yeah, that would mean -- >> computer says no. >> he can't be president. >> stephanie: right. wouldn't it? >> sure. >> stephanie: why is that different? because he's white? >> that's his thing. >> stephanie: his mother is an american citizen but he was born in canada. isn't that the whole thing they're saying? >> exactly. john mccain, he was born in the canal zone of panama which was u.s. soil. so he was eligible to run for president. >> stephanie: what could it be? [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ] what could it be about president obama as one republican

congressman called him exotic? he's so exotic. okay. all right. speaking of racism or not, the oprah story. i talked about it on cnn friday. we'll talk about that. 17 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> well, i guess that makes our naughty parts tingle. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show."

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♪ i just want your kiss >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 22 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number. enjifer in fresno. hey, jen. >> caller: i need respond to our doctor imaginary and billy. first for the doctor, the patients are going to be paying for the premiums so it is not the insurance company being nice. if you're going to be covering a child up until age 26, you're still paying family benefit or the child and family benefit so you're paying for it. as for billy with his oh, you know, the government is going to run this. i'm actually working on the exchanges for an insurance company. and that's not true at all. what we're doing is exactly what chris said. it is a marketplace. we're still going to be administering the plans and even if he wants to say oh, but the federal government is voftd, even if we want to look at the

federal employee plans like tricare, throws still be administered by insurance company. the government's not taking over and to be honest, i kind of rather they did. >> stephanie: there you go. thank you. all right. gee, another billy was wrong call. they're so rare. mary in tennessee. >> caller: how are you today? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: billy is a -- i won't say it. >> stephanie: okay. >> caller: but for the pre-existing, that is only going into effect with obamacare. pre-existing conditions were never covered. that's why we had c.o.b.r.a. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: he such -- he just -- >> stephanie: i think anyone -- anyone in their right mind knows that's been a huge issue that insurance companies could -- discriminate. >> caller: i have two grandchildren with pre-existing conditions. one has asthma and the other has

peanut allergies. they would never have been covered by insurance. hello! oh, well. >> stephanie: billy, hello. >> the terrible story about the teenage girl who died because of her peanut allergy. she died in her father's arms. >> stephanie: anita in san antonio. hi, anita, welcome. >> caller: hi, steph. i just want to clarify something about the ted cruz thing. ted cruz is a naturalized citizen. his mother -- because his mother was an american citizen, even though she was in canada he was born in canada, because he was -- he's a naturalized citizen. >> the constitution says you must be a natural-born citizen. >> caller: no, no, no. >> yes, it does. >> caller: no. go look at the constitution. >> i'm looking at it right now. >> caller: no, no, no. a naturalized citizen, definition of a naturalized citizen is a person born by --

from a -- >> no. actually, courts have never determined the definition of a natural-born citizen. but natural-born citizen is different than a naturalized citizens which is someone who takes an oath coming in from another country. >> caller: no, no, no. a naturalized citizen is a citizen born by a citizen. okay, let me give you an example. okay. what's his name, romney's father. romney's father was born in mexico. he ran for president. nobody ever brought that up because he was born -- >> bit mitt romney was born in america which makes him a natural-born citizen. >> no, his father ran for president. >> stephanie: his father? mitt romney's father, george romney ran. that's what i mean. these are interesting issues, i gotta say. >> the courts have never determined the definition of a natural-born citizen so whether

the mother is a citizen or not has never been determined by the court so if that should happen, it will have to go to the supreme court. >> stephanie: what could it be? it has been a whole industry around the president's birth certificate? [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ] what could it be? >> i can't imagine. >> stephanie: what could the difference be? >> he's a space alien from another planet? [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] >> stephanie: everybody's talking about this oprah story. it was on cnn friday talking about -- she claimed an incident of racism in -- what you call it, switzerland. >> right. third most expensive shopping street in the world. >> stephanie: couple of things i took from this. number one, i'm like you can buy a purse for $35,000, really? and number two, they never got oprah in switzerland? what is it? they wouldn't sell her this bag. >> the only person worth $35,000 -- the only purse worth $35,000. >> stephanie: is there in fact $35,000 in cash in this purse?

>> computer says no. >> stephanie: that would not be worth it. >> is there any amount of workmanship worth $35,000 for a purse? >> stephanie: so the manager of the shop in zurich said it was a 200% misunderstanding. mrs. oprah -- >> she's not married. >> stephanie: she was look at the jennifer aniston handbag. it was the latest it bag from tom ford made from crocodile skin. mrs. oprah asked how much it was and the sales assistant said $38,000. >> jennifer aniston handbag sounds like something you would get from kmart from the jennifer aniston collection. >> stephanie: couldn't shy just get one from -- couldn't oprah just get one from jennifer aniston. >> my sales assess ant felt embarrassed about the price. she had the model in other material such as ostrich and suede which weren't so execs pensive. you can get the much less expensive one in ostrich.

>> what? >> stephanie: that was the misunderstanding was the normal selling discussion. mrs. oprah got the impression she didn't want to sell the bag to her because she wanted to show her other bags which had nothing to do with racism. he didn't just do the obligatory i'm not racist, i have a black best friend, get giant name drop in addition. he said tina turner is my best friend. i was at her wedding just like oprah so this has nothing to do with race. >> stephanie: you gotta say that as a giant name drop in the middle of it? >> you gotta hand it to him. ♪ let's hear it for the boy ♪ let's give the boy a hand >> stephanie: that all being said, i believe oprah. and it goes to the president's point many black people in this country experience incidents like this a lot. >> our country and zurich. >> stephanie: 28 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show."

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>> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. let's go to michael in new york. hey, michael. >> caller: hey, there, sexy liberal mama. >> stephanie: hello. >> caller: hey, you know, i'm so sick and tired of all of this racism crap that the right-wingers are imposing. we hear it. we've seen it so many times but the birtherism against president obama and now we're seeing it with oprah. with president obama, since they want to keep saying show us your

birth certificate, i can play the same game with the republicans. how do we know what the past republican presidents, that they weren't -- how do we know whether or not they were american citizens? for all you know, they could have been canadian. scottish or swedish. they were white so they look american. as far as oprah goes, she is right on target because i have done retail in the past. i worked for the supermarket. if a customer asks if they can see something, regardless of what item it is, you show it to them. then they ask you how much it is. you give them the price. it is up to the customer whether or not they can afford something. not you. and everybody knows damn well, you wouldn't do that to any white customer. why would you do it to a black customer. >> stephanie: oprah is probably going to get even by buying switzerland. she probably already owns it. >> probably owns it. she should lay a big smackdown

on their racist asses. >> stephanie: there you go. oprah has just bought switzerland. >> she's taken the high road here. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] >> stephanie: cue fox news obama vacation freakout. his vacation on martha's vineyard on saturday. bo also is going just so you know. >> the portuguese water dog. >> stephanie: exactly. obama is scheduled to remain on vacation for a week. [ screaming ] >> didn't george w. bush vacate the premises for two months at a time? >> stephanie: oh, yeah. speaking of texas governors, texas clarifies it discriminates against democratic voters, not minorities. state of texas has an amusing response to eric holder's claim that they discriminate against minority voters.

they wrote d.o.j.'s accusation of racist discrimination is basils. both houses were controlled by large republican majorities and their redistricting decisions was designed to help the electoral prospects. they posted that sentence on the blog only in america. pretty much admit oh, no, we're -- they're only discriminating because they both are the wrong way. by the way, speak of eric holder. attorney general eric holder will announce that the department of justice will no longer call low level offenders with minimum sentences. a major shift in american drug crimes. hooray. an indication the president wants to reduce the number of americans who serve long prison sentences and rethink american laws that have existed for decades. the mandatory minimum change to delight both liberal activists and african-american groups that have long argued the required

sentences lead to huge growth in the number of blacks in prison and nobody can say the sentencing laws are fair because they're not. they're not racist. all right. oh, by the way, how about this one, jim. one of your favorites, children given a life-long ban on talking about fracking. two young children in pennsylvania were talking -- >> how is that constitutional? >> stephanie: they're like 7. how is that possible? for the rest of their lives? >> put them in prison for talking about fracking? >> stephanie: they've been banned from talking about fracking under a gag order with a settlement order reached with their parents with a leading oil and gas company. it was imposed over a $750,000 settlement between the hal witch family and range resources corp. it barred them ables 7 and 10 from ever discussing fracking. >> insane and blatantly unconstitutional. >> stephanie: it is

unconstitutional. >> but oil company -- they're running the show. >> stephanie: they did it to get the settlement to get their kids out of there because they were having a host of health problems. the only way they would have the money to get out of there is to move away from this area. >> that's horrifying. >> you can't talk about all of the ways you're poitionz the groundwater. >> stephanie: we can tell them not to. he's 7! how are you going to control? >> drone strike. >> stephanie: exactly? gayle in massachusetts, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, gayle. >> caller: hi, how are you? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: this is a reference to the person who called about naturalized citizens as natural born. in the constitution, it says natural born but i have my son was born abroad. when he registers at the u.s. embassies, you get a birth certificate that says u.s. citizen born abroad. born as a citizen. so that kind of makes. >> natural born citizen but probably eligible like ted cruz.

he's not naturalized. his mother was an american citizen. >> did she get the paper from the consulate or the embassy? do we know that? >> that i don't know. >> stephanie: i'm sure orly taitz will be all over that. annie in chicago. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, annie. >> caller: hi. i'm calling regarding the previous caller about the natural-born citizen. wouldn't that totally debunk the whole birther scenario because wasn't obama's mother born in hawaii? wasn't she a natural born citizen? >> she was born in kansas. >> regardless, hawaii is a state. u.s. territory. >> stephanie: thank you for calling. beth in virginia, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, beth. >> caller: i'm calling this about this natural born,

naturalized business also. it is not just the fact that you have a u.s. citizen parent. that by itself isn't enough. >> right. >> caller: or even necessarily registering. there are some other steps. chris is right as far as that maybe natural-born but it hasn't really -- there's not a consensus on that yet and it hasn't been tested. but we may see with this. >> stephanie: yeah. let's hope so. who wouldn't want the food critic from ratatouille to be president. i speak of the rat-faced ted cruz, of course. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] 61-year-old man expected to be charged in murder connected with the shooting death of a man 40 years younger over a traffic dispute. the victim, 23-year-old man encountered the unidentified man. he cut him off on the road twice prompting him to respond by throwing a glass of water on the man's vehicle. he said the man pulled out a 9 millimeter handgun and shot

moss. moss' girlfriend and three children were in the car with them at the time. they were not injured. that's how people are solving disputes now. >> standing their ground! >> stephanie: yes. >> you threw water at me? you're dead. >> stephanie: [ bleep ] america, yeah. all right. jimmy in vegas. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, jimmy. >> caller: how's it going? >> stephanie: good. >> caller: calling about -- affordable care act earlier. i just wanted to say as a citizen, the main problem i have with it i don't like government force forcing me to buy anything. >> stephanie: why does the government force you to buy health insurance? the government should force him to get a better phone if he's going to go around calling radio shows. >> i threw a bag of vipers in the guy's car. that was the end of that.

>> stephanie: unless you have a bag of glass to fight back with. wow. hal, did you watch people from idaho? >> no. >> stephanie: idaho. found the guy -- the california abductor. thank god, she's all right. [ applause ] >> the guy who did it, not so much. but she's fine. >> stephanie: right. horseback riders, led to the rescue of a california teen. they became suspicious because she and her suspected abductor had new gear and appeared ill-equipped for the idaho wilderness. they're very good on helping here but grammar, not so much. >> computer says no. >> stephanie: the two were not especially friendly and appeared out of place in idaho's rugged back country like a square peg going in a round hole. [ buzzer ] hole? pole? >> those are two very different

things, stephanie. >> stephanie: one of them was a retired sheriff riding with his wife and another couple when they encountered the pair. hannah anderson was rescued and her abductor was killed. it came after a two-day manhunt for dimaggio wanted in the killing of anderson's mother and her brother, ethan. john, the rancher and -- he was a rancher and retired u.s. army ranger. he and the other couple discussed the oddness of the situation. the encounter with them raised red flags for them. the girl and the man were not eager to speak with them. she appeared scared at times so they were not sure go it was because of the horses. dimmageio set up a camp on an exposed ridge with no matter source and where they might have been struck by lightning or storm. he might have been an outdoorsman from california but he was not an outdoorsman from idaho and that's why they alerted. outdoorsman from california has all of the fancy camping

equipment. >> stephanie: california gps. >> exactly. >> prada hiking boots. >> stick out like a sore thumb in the idaho wilderness. >> stephanie: this is a weird story. he was apparently a friend of the family. >> they called him uncle something or other. >> stephanie: jim something. yeah. he's suspected of setting the home on fire and police found the bodies. it looks like she had been hit with a crowbar. she died of blunt force trauma. horrible story. 45 minutes after the hour. right back with the remaining moments of "the stephanie miller show." >> it's fun for ables 8 to -- it's fun for ages 8 to 80. join us! >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do

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limbaugh doubts oprah's racism claims. maybe because she's fat. [ buzzer ] don't you love it when rush talks about other people's physiques. i think that's awesome. by the way, eric had a couple of other great tweets. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] "wall street journal" analysis ends with quote from g.o.p. pollster saying obama really needs to try to meet g.o.p. in the middle. hashtag parity. as in a joke. then he tweets imagine the fox mini series fox anchor gregg jarrett doesn't know what hillary clinton's achieved in her life. >> what! way more than gregg jarrett has. >> stephanie: to warrant a -- >> she probably laughed in his face. called him a turkey. >> stephanie: thank you, jim. [ laughter ] all right. thank you, gregg jarrett. >> turkey? >> stephanie: by the way, interesting piece in the huff po. in attacking nbc's hillary movie or mini series, reince priebus -- >> reince priebus --

>> stephanie: thank you. lacks ronald reagan's -- somebody wrote a piece, he should have asked what would ronald reagan do. reagan was faced with a similar situation as he faced re-election and he took the exact opposite of reince priebus' strategy. >> reince priebus! >> stephanie: thank you. reagan's election in 1980 and his hard-line reaction to soviet and afghanistan saw a return of cold war tensions as a result of widespread nuclear fear. against that backdrop, abc aired "the day after," remember that? depicted the results of a nuclear strike on kansas city. many on the right criticized it as a call for capitulation of the soviet union. on the right, almost widely viewed as implicit criticism of his approach to foreign policy. >> there i go again. >> stephanie: thinley veil veiled -- thinley veiled and

said he was moved by the power. less than a year after it aired, ronald reagan was elected in a landslide carrying 49 states. the problem is reince priebus has nothing. all he has -- he's got nothing in terms of something to run on or win on so of course he has to whine. >> i can run on my good looks and my -- personality. >> stephanie: i'm not saying who or anybody that i know but just make sure you do not turn on reince priebus on your television because that was -- oh! literally, i just tuned in. he was like -- [whining noises] >> republicans aren't united on a single thing. what is he talking about? >> stephanie: now, a story about a bear. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] a black bear in search of a late night snack in idaho. >> he's black, right? >> stephanie: that was my point. broke into a -- but see,

exactly. crime story. broke into an idaho house and licked leftover food from a cast iron pan on the stove. david edwards said when he went to investigate what his irish setter lab mix was so upset about, he saw the bear on his hind legs licking a pan. that's so cute. eating chinese food. that's more than a picnic basket. >> stephanie: edwards' wife sara had fallen asleep on the couch. i couldn't tell her there was a bear in the house because she would have just lost her mind. she gets very upset over spiders. [ laughter ] >> a little bigger than a spider. >> stephanie: honey, wake up. do not go in the kitchen. we've had simultaneous home invasion of possum and raccoon eating from the kitty dish. that's different. >> stephanie: do not go in the kitchen. so when he woke her up and let her into the bedroom without telling her about the bear in

the kitchen. >> the elephant in the room. >> stephanie: edwards went back into the kitchen to find the bear was gone and the pan was clean. a tidy bear! what a tidy bear! probably didn't tell her -- didn't even have to wash the pan. it is clean now. >> got any fortune cookies? >> stephanie: he comes back. hey, excuse me. >> i need another picnic basket. >> stephanie: i forgot the fortune cookies. tony in toledo, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, tony. >> caller: how you doing? >> stephanie: good. >> caller: the comment i wanted to make, you have to understand the average middle class republicans that vote, they think it is normal to ignore people in need. they think it is normal to lie and if it means, you know, they'll get their way. they don't see a lot of this stuff is wrong and even at

times, you know, mentally disturbing, you know. they just -- they just think all of this stuff is normal. they think it is normal to buy guns and shoot at people. it just -- they just don't see the sickness in it. they really don't. >> stephanie: by the by, this may be bad news. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] story in atlantic, they may be losing their demographic angry old white people. they're saying hillary's too old to run. that could be the last little bit of their democratic -- [ "price is right" losing horn ] the g.o.p. has lost more support among voters over 65 than any other demographic group in recent months according to a new poll. this was surprising. as bad as things get for republicans with women with minorities, with youths, only one group they can count on, the old. but now -- >> started going after medicare. >> stephanie: one pollster sees evidence that seniors are starting to turn on the g.o.p.

28% of voters 65 and older had a favorable view of the republican party versus 40% who had a positive view of democrats. yikes. it is now strikingly clear that seniors have turned sharply against the g.o.p. said one -- the polling associate. we've seen other voters pull back from the g.o.p. but among no group is a group as sharp as senior citizens. >> they're going after medicare and wheels on wheels and the post office. >> stephanie: exactly. nicely done republican party. when you've lost old, angry white people -- [ applause ] not certain who's left for you. oh, chris, i hate to end on such a dower note but the dream of the heather's tv show is dead. again. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] bravo will not be going forward with "heathers." >> stephanie: what's your damage, bravo? [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] >> bra row is a bunch of heathers. >> stephanie: obviously run by a bunch of heathers.

remember, "buzzfeed" writes remember these wise words, if you were happy every day of your life, you wouldn't be a human being. you would an game show host. >> they mixed some liquid drano with some orange juice and they fed it to the tv series and it crashed through the coffee table. hoarch. >> you never saw heathers, did you? >> stephanie: i did. >> they fed one of the heathers the liquid drano. she died, crashed through the coffee table. >> stephanie: now i got it. horrible. >> it was the blackest comedy ever. >> stephanie: all right. that's it for us. i would like to thank chris lavoie, jim ward, travis on phones. we'll see you tomorrow on "the stephanie miller show."

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