[♪ theme music ] >> stephanie: all right. current tv, hour number 1. jacki schechner you know it has been a long night, when i come in and think there is a spider on my laptop, but it's my fake eyelashes from cnn last night. we have michael tomasky and charlie pierce on the big show.

are we trying to make their jealous. oh, they have mated. the eye lashes. >> oh, the eyelashes, not tomasky and pierce. >> stephanie: oh, no. [ laughter ] >> good morning, everybody, it's primary day in new jersey as voters are going to choose a candidate to run for the late frank lautenberg's seat in the senate. cory booker holds a commanding lead in the polls, and has raised more money than his challengers. senator lautenberg's family, has endorsed senator malone. booker is facing questions regarding his outside business measures. but booker is going to win today and is poised to beat the

republican candidate in the general election by a huge margin. the clintons not pleased with anthony weiner for both personal and political reasons. saad he is likely to have made that situation even worse. he did an interview with buzzfeed, and when asked about huma's role in the 2016 clinton campaign, weiner spoke as if that were a definite. >> do you think huma will play a role in hillary clinton's 2016 candidacy? >> i do. >> what is it? >>! not telling you. >> do you feel you have hurt huma? >> yes, professional andly and personally. >> again, clinton has not made any indication as to whether or

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this show is about analyzing, criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for

the middle class. but we do care about them right? ♪ ♪ it's a beautiful day ♪ don't let it get away >> beautiful except for the smell in the room right now. >> stephanie: why can't you treat me with the respect to which i'm entitled. >> bring something that smells good for once. >> stephanie: really? really? whenever i open -- it smells like ass. it does not smell like ass.

>> it smells like stale ass. >> stephanie: i have already gotten requests for the recipe. >> here is how to make stale ass. >> stephanie: i will stab you. here is what you do, in a blender put orange juice and balsamic, shallots, garlic, d ! dee -- deshawn mustard. >> that's what i smell. >> stephanie: and then you poor it over the salmon and it's delicious. [ applause ] >> stephanie: it would be worse i could have brought my burnt

sauerkraut from thanksgiving. >> it could be worse. >> stephanie: because i'm trying to make them jealous, we have both michael tomasky and charlie pierce on the same program. >> we're trying to lure them into a fightfest. >> stephanie: do it. fight. fight. fight. jim and chris you were both talking yesterday about the fourth amendment, and i thought there are some parallels between the stop and frisk and what is going on, and the balance between -- again, jim, i think you would say you are not looking for total privacy. >> right. but you have strike balance within the bounds of the fourth

amendment. >> stephanie: right. and i think that is what the president is trying to do is figure out what the balance is. bloomberg is an interesting character. you have to say. he's a republican, and yet even we have said some of the stuff is nanny stuff. secondhand smoke and obesity, i agree with him, but it's is obviously on the edge of what is permissible. what is too much big government. anyway -- and the stop and fisk thing i have heard a lot of people talking -- it is working if you are looking at crime statistics. [♪breaking news theme] >> stephanie: but in repudiation of a major element of the bloomberg agency, a federal judge found the stop and fisk should be reformed.

this is exactly what we have been talking about. trayvon martin, the president saying how many times he was stopped in his life. the police department had adopted a policy of indirect racial profiling. mayor bloomberg said the city would appeal. angerly saying the court didn't give the city a fair trial. he said it has rid the city of a thousands of illegal guns. and that's another issue. in her ruling, the judge found that in doing so the police stopped too many innocent people. it demonstrated a widespread disregard four the fourth

amendment. michael bloomberg yesterday. >> we go to where the reports of crime are. those, unfortunately, happen to be poor neighbors and minority neighbors. >> stephanie: but did you see this on tv. they put up the statistics, and more often statistically white people are the ones that have guns or contraband. the supreme court long ago ruled that stop and frisk were permissible under certain conditions. and the judge said changes were needed to ensure all the rights and liberties of all new yorkers needed to be protected. and we were talking about what is the balance. the judge found that new york police were too quick to deem suspicious behavior. blacks are likely targeted for

stops than whites he is wrote. she found that in their zeal to identify concealed weapons, when the police observed a bulge in the suspects pockets -- which could be very embarrassing. and she was talking about often the bulge was not a gun but a wallet. the outline of a commonly carried object such as wallet does not justify a search. she said no one should live in fear of being stopped to go about the activities of their daily lives. and this is where the whole trayvon martin thing came in, you were walking with skittles, and you run into some dooffy

wanna be cop -- anyway, hispanics and blacks are more likely to be stopped despite the fact that whites are more likely to have contraband. blacks were stopped 88% of the time. she wrote this night be a valid comparison if the people stopped were criminals, but nearly 90% of the people are stopped are released without the officer finding any basis for a -- based on the alleged criminal conduct of other young black or hispanic man violates the values of equality. like trayvon martin is now dead, because he clearly must have

been the guy. the new york city police commissioner. >> there were 7,363 fewer murders in new york city compared to the 11 years prior to the mayor taking office. and those lives saved were overwhelmingly the lives of young men of color. >> stephanie: that's the same arguments we're reading that the guy said i can tell you without a doubt this intelligence has stopped terrorist attacks. so here we are again. and what kind of changes would you make? jim, what kind of changes would you make -- >> i think obviously for getting calls from saudi arabia or yemen or something, that needs to be looked into. but having this massive dragnet

sucking up all of the information, and possibly trying to entrap people. >> stephanie: right. and tomasky rights do i trust this more because it is this president. yes. yes. it's really an interesting -- i was sort of drawn by the parallels. let's go to brett in louisiana. >> caller: hey, how are you doing today? >> stephanie: good, go ahead. >> caller: i calling about this stop and frisk thing. i had to travel back and forth every weekend to visit my daughter, and i was pulled over numerous times because i guess i looked like a drug dealer. and it was aggravating, but i understand they have a job to

do. but i think it's real similar to the dwi check points and stop and frisk. >> stephanie: yeah, i'm more curious why you look like a drug addict. what does a drug addict or drug dealer look like? >> highway 59 is a well-known drug trafficking route out of houston, texas from drugs coming in from mexico. and there is this one little loop, and the police would it is there and make eye contact with anybody coming through there, and maybe that they deemed looked like suspicious -- for the most part you are looking at young men -- young men are generally the people that haul

drugs. >> stephanie: i think anybody -- >> caller: -- and finally i called the supervisor -- or the sheriffs office, and i said i come through there everying weekend and i'm getting tired of pulling over, so finally a sheriff's deputy gave me his cell phone number and they stopped doing it. but it's damned if you do and damned if you don't. >> stephanie: i think anybody looks suspicious if a cop a making eye contact with you. i mean i'm a little lame ass white girl, and i'm like huh oh. sometimes i do the thing with the seat belt, but i don't like it over my shoulder, so i put it over there -- >> then it doesn't work. it will cut you in half. >> stephanie: i know, but see what i'm saying.

[♪ dramatic music ] >> you shouldn't be afraid of the cop. you should be afraid of yourself. >> yeah, you'll get chopped in half. >> stephanie: like you two care. you'll be like, well, at least the studio smells better. >> well, there's that. >> stephanie: now that smells like ass. >> head less bodies. >> stephanie: yeah, the way they propped me back up in the studio. >> oh, boy. >> announcer: call the political party line now. 1-800-steph-1-2.

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>> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ comes now singing moan-nay, moan-nay ♪ >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." twenty-two minutes after the hour. everybody lines up for apologies about my salmon, which is delicious. >> it's very good. >> stephanie: jim made a yummy noise. you are just being stubborn. >> i am never stubborn. i am never ever ever ever ever stubborn. >> stephanie: my salmon which smells like ass is delicious. >> when you first opened the the upperwear it was like oh! >> stephanie: like south side

sea port in august. yesterday we talked about the rodeo clown with the obama mask. he repeatedly said who wants to see obama get run over with bulls. >> yes. >> stephanie: guess who's fault all of that is that that happened? >> who? >> stephanie: president obama. [ bell chimes ] [ applause ] >> stephanie: because my friends, because he goes on the tonight show, he is -- to face the presidency, what do you expect to happen? >> he is not the first president to do that. normally i'm against domestic drone strikes, but i might make an exception in this case. [ applause ] >> stephanie: see he is not an absolutist. we're kidding news busters.

i was like, really? he has already debased the presidency by going on the tonight show. >> nixon went on laugh-in. >> you reach a lot of people going on the tonight show. >> stephanie: right. because he is disrespected the office of presidency, so what do you expect? >> plus he is kenyon muslim nazi socialist. >> stephanie: right. and as you know i'm a well-known gun grabber. so while i appreciate major bloomberg's thoughts of getting guns off of the street -- [♪breaking news theme] >> stephanie: -- i just thought, sometimes the isn't it ironic law writes itself. ohio gun safety instructor accidentally shoots student. ♪ isn't it ironic

>> fortunately a lot of the students were nurses. >> right. >> stephanie: he was sitting in the front row -- this will teach you. don't do that in the comedy club -- >> or gun safety class. >> stephanie: right. while the instructor was demonstrating self-defense techniques, which that kind of is a way of demonstrating it. the gun went off. even the student didn't realize what had happened. he cold cnn, it took me a couple of moments to realize i had been shot. the instructor did not return calls for comments. [ crickets chirping ] >> stephanie: nothing? albert in albuquerque. hello, robert. >> caller: good morning. hi. this fourth amendment violation stuff is near and dear to my

heart. my daughter is lat tina, and she is an actor selling over-priced cupcakes on rodeo drive. and they were heading home in a crappy car on rodeo drive, and they were stopped. and asked to get out of the car for no other reason than their crappy car. and her african american friends said that happens to them at least twice a month. and that's just nuts. >> it's actually a felony to drive a crappy car in l.a. >> stephanie: yeah, i was just going to say. and it's a pretty high bar for what is considered a crappy car -- >> this is a 2008?

come on! >> i drive a 2006 car, as you should see the looks i get. >> stephanie: as well you should. you wear shady -- >> i no. >> stephanie: roy, you are on the "stephanie miller show." go ahead. >> caller: [ inaudible ] got it right. this was not -- >> the judge. >> caller: -- this was the persecution of a race. eventually everyone will be terrified of black men and latino men. this is history. this has gone on for centuries, the persecution of those that you fear. >> stephanie: right. roy, we mentioned yesterday about eric holder's thoughts on what is happening with drug sentencing, but he makes a good point too in terms of minority men in society -- even starting

in school, a mine nor infraction that should put them in the principal's office puts them in the prison system. >> caller: yeah. and along with that culture, comes the fear. could you imagine where this ends up. right now we have a society afraid of our president. they don't even respect the presidency. >> stephanie: well, that's his fault for going on the tonight show. >> caller: right. but that's the thing with bloomberg. he loves decrees and tries that all the time. and the police department says we have our own rules. >> stephanie: yeah. and where is the line between security and police state? michael tomasky squee! next on the "stephanie miller show." ♪

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michael tomasky in t"the daily beas beast", joins us now. good morning, michael. >> good morning. i'm not sure how i feel on that doby brother's thing, but i'll roll it with. >> stephanie: thank you. michael, some great points. i think you and i are kind of on the same place, and jim ward and i frequently disagree on stuff -- >> no, we don't. >> stephanie: see what you did there. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: but i think this is exactly what the president addressed on friday. what is the balance between 100% privacy and 100% security. and you made a good point this is the first time in your lifetime a president voluntarily doing this. most polling has been pretty

consistent on this issue. right? >> yeah, all of the polling i have seen. there is some polling that says maybe things have gone a little far, and it should be reigned in, but there is not a huge public outcry for obama to become a -- you know, a full-fledged civil libertarian on this question. people want a balance. so he wasn't under intense political pressure to make these moves, but as i wrote, i think the mere fact that a president intents to -- he hasn't made them yet, so we should point that out, but intends to make some moves that relinquish executive power, i haven't think of any -- precedent in the

modern presidential era. >> stephanie: yeah. yesterday you wrote, this predictable knee jerk thing -- oh, right, he would have done it even without snowden. but on may 23rd the president gave a speech in which he foreshadowed the moves he just announced. go ahead. >> yeah, no -- i mean, yeah, that's -- that's right. i think he was on this course before the snowden story broke. i don't think it would have happened as quickly. i'm not under any illusions about that. this administration moves really slowly on things, when i heard the discussion by holder, i just wondered how many thousands of pages of legal reviews were written before they finally

decided to pull the trigger. so they are not -- what is the thing that is fast-acting -- >> stephanie: yeah, whatever is the fast-acting medicine, it is not that. >> right. >> stephanie: i also agree with him that snowden is not patriot. you know. >> i agree. i agree. don't you get in trouble with your audience for saying things like that. >> stephanie: yes, the audience in the room with me. >> did you hear the eye roll. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: interestingly, you say predictably everybody is unimpressed by the measures that barack obama has brought. it only tinkers around the edges of our surveillance programs -- nevertheless, i think it is pretty remarkable that any president announce without absolutely being forced

to to relinquish some presidential power. why this is so tells us some important things about contemporary liberalism. talk to us about that. >> yeah, i just think that -- you know, of all of the various liberal interests, and interest groups out there, i think -- you know, a lot of other people understand that politics is a negotiation, and it's the kind of business where you are just -- it's impossible to get everything you want, and people agitated forsingle payer very strongly and aggressively. i supported at least the public option myself. in the long run, i do support single payer, but these things didn't happen, and people were mad about it, but people understand this is our political

system. and civil libertarians don't really appreciate that point, i think quite as much as some other folks. and the other point i would make is that the editors of the "new york times," and the head of the aclu, and you and i aren't in that room every morning when the president gets this intelligence briefing, and it's not our job to make sure that america doesn't have any attacks, and i bet if it were our job, we would have a different perspective. >> stephanie: yeah. that's how you finish the piece. and you say the mere willingness to have this conversation, let alone take some concrete steps -- and this is not just be defending the president, i

really believe there should be some balance. so i was asking you, jim, how would you fix it. >> i'm reading something from the guardian, about the -- well, it's kind of a lengthy thing, but the idea that they can suck up every bit of information on us now, on the theory that some day, something that they find might be relevant -- >> stephanie: michael. right. right. what are your thoughts on that, michael? >> i think the authority right now probably is overbrood, and needs to be looked at, but one of the things obama said was that that's what they are going to look at. that's what section 215 of the patriot act is. it is that section authority that we have all of this data mining of telephone records and

so forth -- >> stephanie: right. and you point out that those are the points -- you are really great at that, you picked out the two things that are a big deal, what you just said, section 215 of the patriot act, and you said that would be the first narrowing of the patriot act since passage, right. and the fisa thing is potentially an even bigger deal. >> i think so. if the government wants to put a warrant or surveillance on some one or some group, all it has to do is go to that court and present it's a case, and there is no other side presented. so the idea that there be another side, with someone

saying this is over brood and not necessary, that would change it. >> i would be happy with that. >> yeah. >> stephanie: michael, this sentence goes to -- when people say do i trust this president more than george bush? i say yes. you said i think this is the first time since the presidency became imperial more or less after the civil war, that that has happened. >> yeah. now the bush administration, a conservative would pipe in and say there were most fisa amendments after 2008. and that's true, but the democrats forced it, and there

were enough votes between democrats and libertarian-ish republicans to get that passed. but i don't think george bush and dick cheney, would have enunciated a policy like obama did on friday. >> stephanie: a lot of liberals unimpressed, you said i am. if you are not signed on to the whole program you might as well be joe mccarthy. and we liberals are trained to think of these liberties as being absolutely nonnegotiable. but they are negotiated all the time. as with anything there are degrees. >> i wrote a column a couple of months ago back when the gun debate was going on, when i was setting out to demonstrate to people that the rights in the

second amendment aren't completely absolute. and i said that there have always been limits placed on these rights. there are limits on protections and the fourth amendment protections, there are circumstances where search and seizure, cops can do that, and there are limits on virtually every amendment -- limits on first amendment that have been decided by the courts over the years, so i said that means there can be limits on the second amendment too. >> stephanie: right. >> if it means all of that, then it also means that civil liberties have to be negotiated. now they have to be negotiated very carefully. and i'm not against civil liberties by any stretch of the imagination. i'm just not one who would say there is no negotiation possible

here. >> stephanie: right. you brought up, that's what i was talking about earlier in the hour, michael, is it is interesting in the parallels with the stop and frisk issue. as you and i -- you know, we agreed on gun issues, so i understand bloomberg's point of trying to get illegal guns off of the street. >> right. >> stephanie: i was curious, your take on the stop and frisk ruling. >> i haven't read the actual ruling. i tend to think that it did need revisiting, let's say. like that piece in the times op-ed the other day by that young african american man was very powerful. and he just said it is built into his life, that the stop and

frisk policy has made him change his behavior, and he is a perfectly law-abiding dude. that's -- that's -- that's gone too far. >> stephanie: right. jim go ahead. >> there is an article in the guardian that talks about the pre-emptive surveillance -- generally prevents the government from conducting fishing exdecisions in our affairs. if we say or type something suspicious, there is little to prevent the government into turning the internet into a tool of pervasive surveillance. >> yeah, i can't agree. but there is a point, where unfortunately, we have to trust the people doing this

surveilling, and i have to say, we have had a lot of information come out from the guardian and a bit from the "washington post" and other places about the data that is collected, but we haven't had many scoops about data being blatantly misused. i don't think we have. so maybe there is a conclusion to be drawn from that. >> stephanie: yeah. michael another great piece. talk to you again soon. >> always enjoy it. [ applause ] >> stephanie: i'm going to get -- my sister has lived in all of the stans -- >> yeah, they are listen togher. >> stephanie: oh, yeah. oh, yeah. >> oh, you are the salmon lady. >> no, that's mary. >> oh, by the way, thank you for the salmon burps.

>> stephanie: yay! now it's magically pungent in here. >> oh, god. >> stephanie: we'll be right back. >> oh, what a lovely program! >> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪

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stephanie. all right this morning, i have forced you to eat my salmon. >> yeah. >> stephanie: you should have resisted. >> no, you kind of shoved it in my mouth. >> stephanie: well, you said it smelled like ass so i had to prove it to you. >> and the other thing i forced you to do is make bubble butt songs out of my spinning class. ♪ bubble, bubble, bubble, butt, bubble butt, bubble bubble bubble bubble butt ♪ >> stephanie: see, at least i didn't drunk dial you and sing it to you last night. >> major laser and bruno mars. >> stephanie: exactly. the last one jim said if crystal

meth had a sound that would be it. >> yes. another salmon burp. sorry. >> stephanie: all right. josh in memphis. >> caller: hi, stephanie. i think the problem with the stop and frisk thing or the way the police carry themselves is somewhere along the line we decided that if they were suspicious or something, or they perceived you to do something suspicious, then that gave you the right to treat you anyway they wanted to. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: when they are the ones that are armed, trained and paid to enter those kind of situations, not the civilian walking down the street. >> stephanie: and like we are having a lot of these cases -- trayvon martin was racially profiled and he is dead

now, because he had the misfortune to be in doof us george zimmerman's neighborhood. john in arizona. >> caller: hey, i just want to talk about fox news. i'm sorry. i know you guys don't want to hear it, and the hypocrisy of this stop and frisk law. they said if you give up freedom for security, you deserve neither. and as an african american male who has been stopped at gunpoint -- i don't smoke, i don't drink. i don't use drugs. i'm teacher. i have a master's degree, and i got stopped at gunpoint by six or seven police officers. i have gotten pulled over about 50,000 times in my life, never

arrested, nothing. and it violates you. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: and i have been shot at, and that didn't make me feel as bad as when police officers made me get on the ground and put my hands behind my back. they want to put that fear in your mind and control you, but it's okay. because they have never experienced it. >> stephanie: exactly. i'm talking to you now, and i can't emotionally or psychologically imagine what that feels like. and that's a common experience for a lot of african americans in our society as the president talked about. 58 minutes after the hour. much more as we continue on the "stephanie miller show." ♪

[♪ theme music ] >> stephanie: all right tv land. charlie pierce of esquire.com coming up. guess who i get to meet this weekend? >> who? >> jacki schechner's mom. >> yes, she is finally coming to see me, which will be wonderful. >> stephanie: i would have a jingle. i'll just bring a portable

something. i'll put it in my iphone. i can't wait to see who made you. >> oh! >> stephanie: in the meantime, here she is little jacki schechner in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody. a judge ruled yesterday the nypd stop and frisk policy is a violation of civil rights, and she is putting oversight in place. mike bloomberg is saying he will appeal, saying the policy has been essential to getting weapons off of the streets and saving lives. >> we have to give the members of our police department the tools they need to do their jobs without being micro managed and second-guessed every day by a judge or monitor. >> stephanie: hillary clinton made the protection of voting

rights a key point in her speech before the american bar association yesterday. she pointed out that this year, 31 states have introduced more than 80 bills, and called on congress to fix the part of the voting rights act that the supreme court struck down. >> anyone who says that racial discrimination is no longer a problem in american elections, must not be paying attention >> and one of the four states in particular was north carolina who's governor just released a decision that requires new id. >> protecting the integrity of every vote cast is among the most important duties i have as governor. and it's why i signed these common sense, common place protections into law. >> he also points out we need

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that race is being mentioned in. harry reid took a lot of heat for this. >> it's obvious, they are doing everything they can to make him feel. and i hope -- i hope -- and i say this seriously -- i hope that is based on substance, not the fact that he is african american. >> stephanie: cue right-wing freak out. >> michelle mallcan lost her head. she said he was a race traitor. >> stephanie: oh. we mentioned the radio clown that wore the obama mask -- >> yeah, strangely she didn't mention that part. >> stephanie: yeah. this is the first i have mentioned just in the last few

days, he left phoenix, and they said a bunch of people were singing bye-bye black sheep. >> black bird? >> black sheep is what they are singing. and whatever -- kenyan muslim -- whatever -- pick any incident in recent memory. and rush limbaugh yesterday blaming the president for the rodeo incident. saying he debased the presidency by going on the tonight show. >> yes. >> i don't think we have heard of a rodeo clown in a nixon mask before, and yet nixon went on laugh-in. >> stephanie: yeah. blake fairenhult, said republicans should secure the vote toims -- votes to impeach

barack obama. and as you would ask, jim, for? >> what for? >> stephanie: he said i think unfortunately the horse is already out of the barn on this on the whole birth certificate issue. >> there it is. >> if everybody is so unhappy with what the president has done, why don't you impeach him. and i'll give you a real frank answer about that, if we were to impeach the president tomorrow, you would probably get the votes in the house, but it would go to the senate and be defeated. >> stephanie: right. he said the original congress when his eligibility came up, should have looked into it, and they didn't.

>> they did actually. >> stephanie: right. he is saying clearly he agrees the president should be impeached and probably wasn't born here, but it's the intricacies of how you do it. >> sure. >> how do you convict someone of a crime that never happened, or never existed. >> stephanie: right. he didn't mention exactly what grounds that would happen on -- >> what high crime -- >> stephanie: right. right. okay. so by the by, we were talking about the -- [♪breaking news theme] >> stephanie: speaking of race issues, oprah says she is sorry that a media frenzy emerged after an incident in switzerland. i was just referencing it as an example of being in a place why people don't expect that you would be there. they clearly assumed she couldn't afford this $38,000

bag. she said i was in a store and the person obviously didn't know that i -- obviously doesn't know that i carry the black card, so they make an assessment based on how i look, and who i am. you should be able to go into a store looking like whatever you look like and say i would like to see this. she said it is not an indictment against the country or that store, it was just one person who didn't want me to see the bag. so no need for an apology from the country of switzerland. >> she can afford a $44,000 handbag. >> stephanie: she can afford switzerland. >> but the shop girl has spoken out, and wondering why oprah is

cannibalizing her with these false claims. she says i am just a shop person. i don't know why someone as great as here must cannibalize me on tv. >> stephanie: rush limbaugh said it's probably because she is fat. i always enjoy his comments on people's physique. >> she looks pretty good, actually. she is on tv right now, talking about the handbag incident. >> stephanie: freda in florida. >> caller: hey, stephanie. it's rita. >> stephanie: freda go ahead. >> caller: no with an r. >> stephanie: oh, travis is drunk again, i'm sorry. >> caller: that's all right. why does everybody have their panties in a wad if you haven't done anything wrong. >> stephanie: are you talking

about the nsa or stop and frisk? >> caller: both. >> stephanie: both. well, so you don't think there should be any balance between security and privacy. >> caller: no, i'm saying with surveillance, the nsa, everybody is in an uproar about it. if you did nothing wrong, what are you worried about? i don't send texts because i don't know how to. >> stephanie: you are safe because you are a [ inaudible ]. >> stephanie: you didn't learn how to send texts until two years ago. >> stephanie: well, that was because i had to have sex, but that was a different story. bob in l.a. hi, bob. >> caller: they -- come on, brain -- what made us so afraid

was that new york plains getting whacked to the buildings. from that we got stop and frisk. here in l.a. the lapd are recording your movements of your car through the city, put it into a database, they can pull it up any time they want to see where your car was. they shoot pictures of it in your driveway and people around it. >> stephanie: yeah, and one of the ways they are talking about being able to adjust stop and frisk is cops all have cameras on them. so you are giving up a little more privacy, but at least incidents would be records, so in terms of the suspicion and all of that. >> caller: and with our facial recognition soon, the cops camera will be able to identify you if you are in their database. but we're so afraid that all of

the terrorists have to do, or all i have to do is get like five wineos give them these bottles on their vest, go in the mall and drinking it, you get two bombings in a nice big mall here in southern california in three weeks, you won't see an american on the street. they are so afraid -- they are the trickle down from the gre greatest generation. i don't think any backbone was passed down to the next generations. we're cowards. >> stephanie: oh, we're cowards. >> kind of rambly. >> stephanie: let's go to michael in new york. >> caller: hi, yes, i'm a new yorker, and i knew new york

city before the stop and frisk. and 42nd street was a place you didn't want to talk back in the mid-'80s, and they cleaned it all up, and there is also a parallel with -- the haystacks you were talking about before with the nsa, i have a real issue with the nsa holding the haystack. i would much rather see the phone company hold the haystack and the nsa maybe pay the phone companies for specific information. >> stephanie: okay. >> but we're presumed to be criminals. >> yeah, that's a little insulting. >> stephanie: if my sister moves to one more terrorist haven, i'm in trouble. okay. ken in california, hey, ken.

>> caller: hi, stephanie. love your show. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: i had a comment on this stop and frisk thing from new york. everyone knows what reasonable s suspicion is, but i think what most people are forgetting is the consensual encounter, and that's when an offerer can walk up and say can i talk to you? if they want to talk to you, or if they have to get to work and carry on, then the officer has to find reasonable -- a reason to stop them. it's kind of like how it effects -- >> stephanie: it's a little

minority report, i hear ya. >> you haven't done anything yet, but you will. >> stephanie: right. seventeen minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: i got her number off of the men's room stall, 1-800-steph-1-2. ♪

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hour. twenty-two minutes after the hour. lisa in houston. >> caller: hey, stephanie, how are you doing? >> stephanie: good, go ahead. >> caller: okay. you know surveillance, you can define it in many ways. women on welfare have been under surveillance for years, people peaking into their windows seeing if a man is staying there. disabled people have been under surveillance for years. are they really hurt or just pretending? you have hispanics, if you don't have a paper, i'm watching you to see where you are going and what you are doing. so it's not all the nsa. some of it is just local government. some of it is bill checktors -- people are following people in their cars to see if they are going to park it, so they can repossess it. we don't have a lot of privacy.

you think it's hard on a black man walk going a store. think about a black women walking in with a purse. every time you open it and try to close it, you have people with their nose in there. so the government, everything you purchase is on there -- >> stephanie: yeah. you wouldn't believe what i had to do to get netflix this last weekend. >> why? >> stephanie: jim made the best point about the whole oprah incident. the only purse worth $38,000 -- is one with $38,000 in it. >> stephanie: right. andy, go ahead. >> caller: the problem with the nsa is you may not have done anything, but with the [ inaudible ] they do with tracing the phone calls, you may get followed by guilt by

association. and just the way they are doing it, you know, i have friends who -- i have a friend who is married to mailed eastern guy, and we were joking years ago, about how we are on some watch list because our phone numbers involves her number. >> stephanie: yeah. i agree with you. there's a reason we have the constitution. >> guilt by association. >> stephanie: now anthony weiner has finally gone and done it. [♪breaking news theme] >> stephanie: he has let the cat out of the bag that hilary might be running. >> who could have seen that coming? >> stephanie: everyone. he was talking to buzzfeed. >> do you know what the role of

huma is going to be hillary clinton 2016 campaign? >> i do. >> what is that? >> i'm not going to tell you. >> stephanie: dan in michigan you are on the "stephanie miller show." hi, dan. >> caller: hi, stephanie, i do a lot of on-line surfing in the morning. i keep up on marijuana news. and they are getting information and retrieving it with the calls that they are chasing after, and then they set up these stops. they don't -- and still, where they retrieve the information from the nsa, but use it toward the dea case. >> stephanie: yeah. that's why i think -- we should

post michael tomasky piece. >> okay. >> stephanie: what the president is saying is a big deal. i also think it's significant what eric holder talked about yesterday -- [♪breaking news theme] >> stephanie: he announced that low-level drug offenders will no longer be charged with offenses that impose severe mandatory sentences. and also reduce non-violent sentences. >> i have today mandated a modification so that certain low-level non-violent drug offenders who have no ties to large organizations, gangs or, cartels will no longer be charged with draconian mandatory minimum sentences.

>> stephanie: one of my best friends is a psychologist in the prison system, and she can tell you about this. and with an outsized unless prison population, we must be sure not to merely warehouse and forget. jim brings up privatizing of prisons. >> they have a financial incentive to arrest people. >> stephanie: right. and a vicious cycle traps too many americans and weakens too many communities. the attorney general. >> this is our opportunity to define this time, our time as one of progress and innovation, this is our promise to forge a more just society. >> stephanie: and he also said the justice department will work with the department of education to confront the school to prison pipeline, and those zero

tolerance policies, said a minor school disciplinarian offense should put a student in a principal's office not and not a police precinct. >> we also must confront the reality that once they are in that system, people of color often face harsher punishment than their peers. one deeply troubling report indicates that in recent years black male offenders have received punishment nearly 20% longer than whites. this is not only unacceptable. it is shameful. >> stephanie: all right. charlie pierce and much more as we continue on the "stephanie miller show." ♪

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almost every state, my father was in the air force. if you gather a thousand young black men, and ask them what is the talk? we know the talk before we're 15 years old about how you deal with the police. >> stephanie: uh-huh. >> caller: they are not our friends. so when new york was brazen enough to actually put this into law, when me and my friends talked about this, we weren't shocked at all, because it is just another attempt to put the police state that they talk about -- >> stephanie: yeah, someone did a cartoon right after the zimmerman verdict, about the talk, between a white dad and a black dad. and for white people it's about the birds and the bees -- >> caller: right, but not for

us. so when you hear about black guys -- my brother is on the way on down to me and my little brothers, being stopped, thrown on the ground, we were the cosby kids before they were the cosby kids. i'm like the little boy scout helping the little old white lady across the street with the groceries, that got thrown on the ground and stopped and frisked. so i doesn't matter what -- when i was like 27, i got this job, i have to travel all around the country. now i could be in a $10,000 suit, or riding down the street on a bicycle wearing jeans. the same cop who saw me driving the mercedes that pulled me over, would be the same cop that throws me on the ground.

>> stephanie: yeah. yeah. well, i'm glad -- we just played eric holder talking about the realities that people of color often face harsher punishment, and we know this. eric holder. >> with an outsized unnecessarily large prison population, we need to ensure that encars ration is to punish and rehabilitate, not merely to forget. >> stephanie: michael. hi michael. >> caller: it's not just the draconian drug laws, my son was in college at northern arizona university, we're white, of course, and he got a felony conviction for possession in arizona. this thing affected his life for years after he got married and had children, he couldn't get

jobs. it -- you know, like his credit, it was hard -- his credit suffered because he couldn't get the jobs that he was qualified for, this whole war on drugs and is a joke. designed to establish a futile state of our black brothers and sisters, it's a class war, man. >> stephanie: did you see frothy the santorium, we have no classes at all. >> right. >> what does barack obama talk about all the time, the middle class. since when in america do we have classes? since when in america were people stuck in areas or defined in places called a class? that's max schism talk. when republicans get up and talk about middle class, we are buy going their rhetoric of dividing

america. stop it. >> stephanie: wow, stop it. he is from the ann romney school. >> ann romney: stop it. >> stephanie: right. there are no classes. >> the middle class was a good thing. we created that after world war ii. >> and you are not stuck in the middle class for the rest of your life. you -- if you work hard, you can move up or down. >> stephanie: a thriving middle class as jim implies is good for everyone. [♪breaking news theme] >> stephanie: [ inaudible ] was on meet the press, frothy. there will be yet a second sanatorium surge. >> but he keeps losing -- >> because he is in the wrong class, clearly. he is in the losing class. >> stephanie: right. rand paul, chris matthews say he

is definitely going to be their nominee. and then there is the well-known cook coo bird, ted cruz. ted cruz's father links gay marriage to socialism. raphael -- >> raphael cruz! >> stephanie: right. it sounds foreign. >> it sounds canadian. >> it's canadian. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: spoke comparing president obama to fidel castro, and the u.s. was chugging towards socialism via gay marriage. [ bell chimes ] [ applause ] >> stephanie: socialism requires that government becomes your god, that's why they have to destroy the concept of god.

they have to destroy all loyalty, that's what is behind most gay marriage. he connected castro to jimmy carter's socialist party. >> what? [ applause ] >> stephanie: oh, i see. if the gay marriage train leaves cuba -- >> at 45 miles an hour -- >> when will it make it to miami. >> stephanie: what now? oh, we found him. okay. it's time for our tuesday pal. ♪ pierce ♪ he's a clown, that -- ♪ pierce >> stephanie: charlie pierce,

political columnist for esquire.com. hello, charlie pierce. >> i'm lost up here in new york. i'm in geneva right now. >> stephanie: very nice. >> all indian words meaning there will be a casino here one day. >> stephanie: and also as i said, all of those names are indian for i need to get the [ censor bleep ] out of here, i'm freezing my [ censor bleep ] off. >> i'm going to visit my cousins the seminoles. >> stephanie: exactly. you are from the home of whitey bulger, who was just convicted.

he was found guilty of 31 of the 32 counts he faced. and you said this was easily the easiest slam drunk in the history of jury us prudence. >> yeah, his lawyer was saying he wasn't a rat, and he didn't kill women. so basically his whole defense was trying to vindicate his reputation. >> you know, my client is a crook. >> but not the kind you think he is. >> stephanie: you said that - that -- corrupt fbi office frustrated state cops who were trying to run this thug to the ground for 30 years. >> yeah, an fbi agent tips hip off, so he took off, and that's why we lost him.

>> stephanie: he was right here in my neighborhood. >> yeah, you probably saw him walking his old poodle and stuff. >> stephanie: yeah. obviously big news out of the attorney general's office, eric holder seeking to lift the category of several non-violent drug offenses. but you -- as you do, put it in better historical context. you say we have heard analysts talking about these policies having unintenteded consequences. >> i think if we go back -- and you'll notice that most of the -- the historical data that we get says since 1980. something very significant happened in 1980, we elected a president that ran an explicit and non-explicit racial

platform. so if we're going to be honest, we should examine how many of these consequences were unintentional. >> stephanie: yeah, you say the face of the war on drugs was a black or brown face. and then you say a lot of black and brown people given the population as a whole got tossed into prisons that are so overcrowded most of them are time bombs. and as you say the consequences were not unintentional. >> no, some were quite deliberate, and of a piece with the general rolling back of the accomplishments of the civil rights amendment, which goes on today in the newly insane state of north carolina. oh, what a weekend it was for the bookers on those shows. oh, my god.

donald trump and loui gohmert! wow! >> stephanie: yeah, you said it was a parade of stupid. >> it was a mortal sin of stupid. you need plenery -- yeah, i honestly don't understand how the bookers figure this out. loui gohmert, i think by a bipartisan consensus the biggest nut in the house of representatives. which is saying something these days. and to trot him out on national television as the authority on anything is preposterous. >> stephanie: and the only thing

that could trump that would be donald trump opening up a can of birther whoop ass on ted cruz. >> i'm mostly angry at abc forcing me to defend ted cruz. why bring this guy back if not just for a freak show? you can bringing him backesen shally to put on a show for you. >> stephanie: right. and you said the good thing is it made meet the press seem marginally more sane. and i enjoyed the smackdown that ana navarro put on steve king. >> yeah. i liked what she did to steve king. >> stephanie: i loved this part. you quoted she said first of all

i think congressman king should get therapy for his cantaloupe obsessio obsession. he said i would say this, first of all i spoke only of drug smugglers, and if ana understands the language -- [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: she should know that. >> he's got watermelon thighs. >> again, it's loui gohmert, and steve king that scares the pants off of all of the republicans on this issue. they are scared to death of the people who follow the two. >> stephanie: and this is my new favorite charlie pierce line.

if you put steve king and loui gohmert in a barrel and rolled them down the hill, there would always be a dip -- dim wit that would find up on top. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: thank you charlie, see you next time. okay. >> announcer: for a good time call, 1-800-steph-1-2.

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black. so think about that. that's 12% of the population, falsely inflated to make up two-thirds of a prison population. and that's just the ones that can be proven. and they use those same statistics to justify the stop and frisk. we all eat, sleep, and commit crime at the same rate. so forgive us for being less than trusting of the stop and frisk, because we are for whatever reason -- i don't care what it is, it doesn't matter, but when we hit the prison system, and justice system, we don't get that fair shake that we would all love to embrace and believe that is equal. let's look at it -- i know it's uncomfortable, but let's look at

it and see why, why is 193 of those 311, that we know didn't do it, in prison? that's ridiculous. if it was any other culture, they wouldn't be cool with that. and when we cry wolf, it's not just a wolf cry. so before you make a rash, you know, defensive motion, hey, know, they are just playing the race card. please stop each incident, look into it, and see if it has merit, and then make your decision. don't prejudge a situation just because it is uncomfortable to you. >> stephanie: yeah, that's what the judge said. another republican said global warming is a total fraud and a plot to institute global government. we'll tell you who.

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[♪ theme music ] >> stephanie: sorry for that broadcast news moment. hello, good morning, jacki schechner. >> what happened? >> stephanie: what? nothing! listen, we had a delightful jacki's health care corner yesterday, and many people had thoughts on the, quote unquote, surgeon that couldn't talk because he had to go directly into surgery. >> yes. >> stephanie: mary writes in, my

adult son's insurance would be $500 a month, today it is down to $279 a month. it doesn't take much to debunk our right-wing callers, does it? >> no. >> stephanie: all right. here she is nurse jacki. >> good morning, the military court-martial against the fort hood shooter continues today. he is charged with killing 13 and wounding 32 others in november of 2009. witnesses have been testifying as to what they saw and experienced that day. he is representing himself and so far has not asked any questions of witnesses. his reluctant defense team believes the shooter is trying to get the death penalty on

purpose. officials prepare to release prisoners from israel tomorrow. john kerry has been handling the difficult process in resuming the peace negotiation process, part of that involves israel freeing and arab inmates over the next few months. at the same time, kerry reportedly is asking palestinian leaders not to get upset in an announcement that israel has approved construction of 1200 houses. and while this is all happening, kerry is in brazil trying to smooth over attention caused edward snowden's allegation. brazil's leaders are concerned

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>> we will have class warfare. (vo) true stories, current perspective. documentaries. on current tv. ♪ ♪ it's a beautiful day ♪ don't let it get away >> stephanie: uh-huh. it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome it to. six minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. i was just talking to nurse jacki in the current news center. we had a, quote unquote, surgeon call in yesterday, who could not in part anymore talking points to us yesterday, because he had to rush directly into surgery.

mary says steph, regarding the claim by the, quote unquote, surgeon -- >> actually i'm a stergen, i'm a fish. >> stephanie: my son's insurance used to cost $500 a month, and today it's down to $279 a month. yay, obamacare. >> yay! >> stephanie: thanks to you jacki and the mooks for spreading the truth. >> wow, even michele bachmann is happy about it. >> stephanie: i wonder if that guy worked at voucher hospital. ♪ >> where good doctors have bold

ideas. voucher hospital. >> brought to you by [ inaudible ] spittunes. >> doctor, we have an emergency. >> he has increased intercranial pressure and must undergo surgery immediately. >> i agree. >> wait, doctor there is a discussion about obamacare on tv. >> dammit, i must take this. >> but what about the patient? >> you don't understand, i listen to both sides. i must respond. nurse give me that phone now. ♪ >> tune in next time to see if obamacares covers obama derangement syndrome.

[ applause ] >> stephanie: all right. [♪breaking news theme] >> stephanie: hopefully this will be covered unaffordable care, the testicle-eating fish. >> in sweden -- >> isn't the water always too cold in sweden anyway? i'm staying out of there. >> stephanie: gawker brings us the story, a testicle crushing, vegetarian monster fish -- >> not much of a vegetarian. >> stephanie: last week, fisherman reeled in a paku, a fish best known for its occasional attacks on your genitals. >> why can't they just go for ankles? >> stephanie: i don't know. it is not normally dangerous to

people, but has a quite serious bite, there has been incidents in new guinea where men have had their testicles bitten off. >> oh, my god! >> stephanie: testicles aren't part of their usual diet, which is primarily vegetarian, it's mouth is not so big, so it normally eats nuts, fruit, and -- >> nuts and fruit don't grow in the ocean. >> stephanie: don't ask me. i guess the underwater type. >> oh, yeah, planters makes a great roasted underwater nut. >> how can it be dry roasted under water.

>> stephanie: it's teeth with stronger and flatter than the piranha's and perfect for crushing. the fish was likely dumped into scandinavi scandinavian fish collector. thank fish collector. it's not normal to get your testicles bitten off, but it can happen, especially now in sweden. [ applause ] >> maybe that's what those meatballs are made of at ikea. >> can we expect paku-nado.

>> stephanie: someone writes, i'm wondering if someone might want to start a new gohmert's pile. [♪ circus music ] >> stephanie: let's see. here is a tweet. a dubious honor for anthony weiner, he is the post unpopular politician in the history of the poll. anthony weiner releases his first tv ad saying powerful voices don't want him to be mayor. >> meaning 80% of the city. >> stephanie: that's a powerful voice all right. >> also he only pulled down like $23,000 in the last month. >> yeah, it's not good. >> stephanie: jill in ithaca.

hi, jill. >> caller: hi, i would like to introduce some of those fish to congress. but anyway -- and jim is my michael tomasky. because i agree so much with jim. the statistics for the stop and frisk in new york city, 44% of the people who were stopped were black. 33 latino, and roughly 9% was white. and the white population was more guilty -- >> stephanie: yeah. than the higher percentage of time with the illegal weapon or whatever is actually found, right? >> caller: exactly. and even though you might not think edward snowden is a patriot, he did start a good conversation in this country. >> stephanie: yeah, but, again, this is what i said yesterday, jim, do you think the president

is lying when he said he started this reading before the snowden stuff. and tomasky proved that. >> caller: that's great, but we still need to keep on top of it, and also -- >> stephanie: my point is -- let me just finish, my point is, as the president said we could have done that without releasing intelligence to god knows who. as the president said, we would have arrived at the same place. >> caller: i don't know -- >> i'm not sure about that. >> caller: yay, jim. >> stephanie: whatever you two, get a room. >> caller: he's married. >> jim right as well be licking her cheek. >> stephanie: i'm not sure that's as significant to him as it is to you. [ laughter ] >> caller: anyway, yes, and

there are these national security letters that go out to people, right? there is one called java jet, the guy refused to give information. all of those people that are keeping our private information, the government is after them. people that back up certain computer things, the government wants their information, and once they get these letters, they are not allowed to say anything. it takes a lot of effort even to get an attorney, because they are not allowed to talk to anyone about it. it's very, very sick. >> stephanie: yeah, i hear ya. >> well -- >> stephanie: scott in illinois, hello. >> caller: hello. i just wanted to call and get some explanation from [ inaudible ] if the new health care law is the right thing to do, how do you explain why it is

that the president has delayed the implementation of part of it? and also that one of the office of the legislation was quoted as saying, it is a disaster? can you help me understand -- >> stephanie: see, he was not saying the entire law is a disaster. first let's start about delaying the mandate. as the president said we have had to tweak social security, medicare, all kinds of programs when you are trying to implement something that big. why is that admitting that it is a disaster? >> caller: well, i'm of the opinion that we're having to -- they -- they are having to tweak it just like they have done with -- >> stephanie: right. every other major program we have ever implemented -- >> because they are all a disaster. >> social security is a disaster? >> caller: yeah. >> oh, okay.

>> caller: for social security to do this, i would say at 35 years old, take everything away from social security and give it to the people that have been in it in a long time, as long as i new my son, who is two years old, would never have to be involved -- i want people to be independent from government. >> stephanie: well, your son will thank you for that some day. >> and if your son doesn't save any money, then -- >> he is going to live in the street. >> stephanie: didn't we spray troll be gone after the surgeon yesterday. >> yeah. >> the libertarian paradise that is somalia. >> he should move to sew mall

la. >> and he should swim there, and not waste tax dollars. >> stephanie: right, through scandinavian waters if possible. we'll be right back on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ ç]

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actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. ♪ ♪ lay down -- >> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ don't need to leave so soon, i'm been trying all night long just to talk to you ♪ >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." twenty-two minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. michael in new york. hi, michael. >> caller: hi, steph. i'm so thrilled to be talked to

you. i'm tongue tied. but i'll go ahead. you know the balls eating fish they were talking about, and how that caller wanted to send someone up to congress? >> stephanie: uh-huh. >> caller: those poor little fish would be starving to death. [♪ circus music ] >> stephanie: you see what you did there. all right. wow, speaking of congress critters, gop wrap, global warming is a total proud to, a plot to institute global movement. representative dana roarbacker, republican of california, completely dismissed global warming as a plot to institute global government. he responded to barbara boxer's comments about the recent slew

of wildfires being the result of global warming, which is . . . probably true. [ bell chimes ] [ applause ] >> stephanie: he was talking to the newport tea party, just so know you, global warming is a total fraud. at the state level they want the federal government to -- and at the federal government they want to create global government to control all of our lives. [♪ dramatic music ] >> and next galactic government. >> stephanie: right. it's the death star. and global warming is bad strategy in spades. our freedom to make choices on transportation and everything else, that has to be made by a

president who by the way probably comes from nigeria. [ applause ] >> stephanie: dana roarbalker has been -- >> stephanie: nigeria, which in case you hadn't noticed is -- >> black. >> stephanie: i don't know if you just need to get more crazy to fit in -- >> i guess so. good god. >> not crazy enough. need more crazy. okay. now you are getting there. >> stephanie: rand paul actually has no idea that the deficit is falling. it is quite possible that neither does cantor. the whole incident reminds me of 2011 when supposedly well-informed candidates went on about sore government employment.

once you are inside the closed conservative information group you know a lot of things that aren't so. there was a 1996 poll in which voters asked if the deficit had increased or decreased under clinton, and a number of americans thought the deficit has gone up. and that takes away their only talking point in terms of government shut down, the deficit, blah blah blah. >> whatever! >> stephanie: which, by the way -- [♪breaking news theme] >> stephanie: paul ryan spending cut face backlash from moderate republicans. isn't that wonderful eddy? >> isn't that wonderful eddie? >> i won't go! i won't! i won't! i won't! you can't make me! you can't! you can't! >> stephanie: midway between the

campaigns, moderate conservatives are beginning to foment a fight back. they won't stand by to the spending cuts. ryan's budget is no more than a non-binding wish list. it's voucher hospital. it's an imaginary place that he dreams of. >> it's premium support! it's a serious plan! look at my abs. >> stephanie: let me turn my baseball hat around. many members of the appropriations committee has viewed ryan's cuts as unworkable all along. do we have the original? >> yeah.

♪ >> where good doctors have bold ideas. voucher hospital. >> voucher hospital, brought to you by ace hardware stuff. >> dr. ryan. >> hello, mary. well, i have good news and bad news. first the bad news you need a bypass operation and it costs $167,000. >> and the good news. >> the good news i have a voucher here. >> this is for $2 off the value men you another wendy's. >> oh, sorry, wrong one. >> this is for $2 off a $167,000 operation. >> there you go. >> it's premium support! it's not about your . . . you want to watch me do curls?

>> stephanie: wow, gop likely won't shut the government down, and if it doesn't it will be over sequestration. there is a way that the pent-up republican rage could explode into a real shutdown fight next month. salon writing republicans want to claim victory in the fight over sequestration. it will be a win for them, so that's how that might happen. >> wow. >> stephanie: celebrity stack and much more as we continue. twenty-nine minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." ♪

>> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv.

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need boobs. where is this? florida, of course. >> i thought maybe she had been swinging among breast-eating fish. >> stephanie: she is not only getting money, she is getting a lot of smiles as well. >> stephanie: wow, speaking of testicles! i did not need to see justin bieber naked in front of his guitar -- >> yeah, and his grandma. >> i thought it was rachel maddow. >> stephanie: jim! can i just say i would never ever ever ever want to be naked in front of my grandmother under any circumstances -- >> there was a picture of me that exists when i was much much

thinnen of me wearing nothing but a guitar. >> in front of the forskins. >> which is not really a band at all, just a concept. >> stephanie: jammed out an air -- serenade for his grandmother. he slept in to late on thanksgiving morning, and birthday suited bieber went up to his grandmother and started belting out impromptu lyrics like hello, grandma, i love you. grandma thought it was funny.

wow. at least he didn't pee in a bucket at her house. >> as far as we know. >> stephanie: as far as we know. [♪breaking news theme] >> stephanie: dear god, the sham wow guy -- i wonder if he knows the wax vac guy -- >> ow! >> stephanie: shamwow guy is an exscientologist who says that leah remedy's life is in danger. he says you don't attack the church and get away with it. says vince offer, who tells tmz that leah remedy is lucky she is still alive. >> she filed a missing persons life -- >> stephanie: on the founder's

wife. >> right. >> stephanie: he said you would have to see how scarey this guy is. >> okay. >> i miss seeing his infomercials. >> they were funny. >> stephanie: jennifer lawrence made fart jokes and then won the oscar. her cover issue for the september edition of vogue, started by asking the reporter, should we just get drunk. i remember bradley cooper and i talking about is this kid joking around? from fart jokes to potato chips, no wonder she beat merrill. she was awesome in that movie.

>> i liked her in "winter's bone." >> stephanie: i did not see that. speaking of drinking, lindsay lohan is reportedly begging her mom to go to rehab. >> and she said -- ♪ no no no >> stephanie: right. her mother refuses to listen. she would have held up a hand, but there was a drink of in that hand. >> something tells me she enyous a glass of chardonnay. >> stephanie: you think? something tells me something a little bit stronger. halle berry is told to be more

sexy. you probably don't remember that scene of her emerging from the water in the bikini. they kept saying can you be sexier, and i kept shouting back, i'm going to get hip dismalaysia if i do anymore. it's true. [♪breaking news theme] >> kennedy family not happy about the q vc selling the tacky jackie kennedy collection. i would zajacy wouldn't be caught dead in that stuff. what did we learn this week? you can buy a purse for $38,000. well, you can't if you are oprah --

>> that would by tuition for one of her interns. >> stephanie: right. kanye west just bought two of these crazy suvs, armored suvs from latvia. seriously? >> latvia? they make cars there. >> stephanie: it's an armored suv based on the mercedes g class. they have great options like fake whale penis leather. >> if you are going for the while penis leather, why not just go for the real thing. >> stephanie: yeah, for a million you can get the real thing. it comes with jewel encrusted snake and fake whale penis.

wow. oh, it's the thing that sasha barren gohen drove in his movie. the way kanye has it tricked out, they come to about a million dollars a piece. >> i hope it has a good sound system. >> stephanie: well, he is kanye, you would thing so. it is expected to have a number of pompous [ censor bleep ] beats and a comfortable chair for kim kardashian to sit in. >> you only get the nagahyde whale penis.

right. >> stephanie: we were talking about how all of these issues are tying in together, michael bloomberg says he will appeal. >> we go to where the reports of crime are. those, unfortunately, happen to be poor neighborhoods and minority neighborhoods. >> stephanie: see, i'm all with him on getting the guns, because as you know i'm a well-known gun grabber. >> you are. >> stephanie: i'm with him on the obesity problem, and then he goes all nanny with the big gulp stuff. >> did you like the calory count on every menu? >> stephanie: yes. ray kelly. >> there were 7,363 fewer murders in new york city, compared to the 11 years prior

to the mayor taking lives. >> stephanie: yeah, we have had a fair amount of personal stories of racial profiling this morning on the phone, and i'm sure we will have more. 1-800-steph-1-2, the phone number. we will continue this discussion on the "stephanie miller show."% >> announcer: join the party, 1-800-steph-1-2. the young turks is that were honest. they know that i'm not bsing them for some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know i'm going to be the first one to call them out. cenk on air>> what's unacceptable is how washington continues to screw the middle class over. cenk off air i don't want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. cenk on air you got to go to the local level, the state level and we have to fight hard to make sure they can't buy our politics

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another ♪ ♪ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah >> stephanie: uh-huh. it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome it to. forty-eight minutes after the hour, 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. jim in nashville, you are on the "stephanie miller show." hey, jim. >> caller: hey, how are you doing steph? >> stephanie: good, go ahead. >> caller: i'm in tennessee and maybe nurse jacki can say about this. my wife is an icu nurse, and she used to be dedicated to one patient in icu, now because the governor here refuses to handle obamacare, refuses to implement, those nurses get three patients now. they are killing them. they are killing the nurses, not to mention the patients. >> stephanie: jacki if you are listening, call us.

i'm not sure what that has to do, though, with affordable care? >> yeah, they do not get to share in the medicare if they don't implement obamacare. that's why i was asking maybe jacki can check that out for my wife and i. she is confused and it is killing her. >> stephanie: yeah, because her patient load is going way up. >> caller: yeah, they are saying they are losing money because of the obamacare system. >> stephanie: hang on one second, jim. nurse jacki hello. >> caller: hi, i caught the tail end of that. is he talking about medicaid? >> medicaid, that's it. >> okay. yeah. and losing money how? i'm a little confused.

>> caller: that's what i'm confused about too, jacki. >> so repeat for me real quickly, they are telling your wife what? >> caller: they are telling her because of obamacare not being implemented here in tennessee by our republican governor, that they are losing federal benefits because they won't share in it. >> what they are talking about is the states have the option to decide whether or not they want to participate in the expansion of medicaid. which is the opportunity to get health care coverage for people are below the poverty level. there are a lot of states that have decided not to participate. there is no good reason why they

shouldn't because the federal government will pay 100% of it for the first few years and 90% after that. and it's strictly political. you have a lot of people who won't have access to medical care, but it's strictly a republican legislate ere system. >> stephanie: jim, you are saying your wife is a nurse? >> caller: yeah, and she has never experienced anything like this. >> stephanie: you said your wife is a nurse, and she usually had one patients per -- >> right. in intensive care unit. and there are lots of times when

they have 24-hour observation, whatever. at this time they can't do that, and the doctors called and complained, and the hospitals said we studied it and found out you can handle two and a half patients. >> stephanie: but what was your question in terms of the affordable care act? >> caller: well, with the governor in tennessee -- does that have anything to do with obamacare? >> no. it sounds to me like two different problems. it sounds to me like two different problems. one is tennessee will have the problem with the lack of expansion of health care from people who need it most, and also any ongoing hospital insurance turning out of patients and trying to maximize their profits.

it sounds like they are trying to get in as many people as possible to make as much money as general. but, yeah, you certainly should be concerned about the fact that the republican legislator and governor don't want to expand medicaid. >> caller: all right. >> stephanie: thank you, jim. now you have made the mistake of calling. leslie in ashville wants to talk to jacki. >> caller: hey, in states that don't expand medicaid, a lot of the rules are still going to apply, because the law was written assuming that everyone would expand medicaid. so under the affordable care

act, hospitals will receive less money for care. if you don't expand medicaid, as a hospital you will be get less money from the government for indigent care. so hospitals want the expansion, because they will start to lose a lot of money. and we'll start to see hospitals close. >> i think that is a little bit of exaggeration -- >> caller: no, ma'am, it is not. [overlapping speakers] >> stephanie: hang on. go ahead, jacki. we're going to let her go because she wouldn't let you finis finish. >> yeah, what happens now is people go to the emergency room

without health insurance and hospitals have to cover the cost of people who don't have health insurance through charity care. so if we have a problem in this country with not getting enough money out of medicaid, hospitals would have gone bankrupt a lot sooner. >> stephanie: nancy is a nurse. go ahead. >> caller: i love your show, medicare, and jacki, and social security. >> stephanie: you are happy, clappy. >> caller: i'm a retired icu nurse. and i also worked in a call center, and i agree with a lot of the problems of cutting money. but also the hospitals are all

being run by mba's no, and they have been loading patients up -- they load people up, load the nurses up with patients in the icu, and i worked for a call center, six nurses handled 50 different physician's calls, and at the end of the day there would be 200 calls left over that were not addressed. and it's pitiful, and i'm glad i'm retired. >> stephanie: it reminds me of jacki's health care corner, we have a bleedover every time you call. >> caller: yeah, it's terrible. >> you know who is responsible for a lot of that, rick scott. that's what he did -- he gobbled

up a punch of hospitals and then cut all of the benefits of them to try to maximize profits. >> stephanie: explain to me again why he is not in the governor's mansion and not -- what is the word i'm looking for? >> prison. >> stephanie: yeah, prison. >> he was released of his duties before the charges came down, so he got away with being able to say he was never charged with anything, but everybody knew what was going on. it was a mess, but he bought his way into the governor's office, so that is a good thing. >> stephanie: all right. that's it for us. we'll see you tomorrow on the "stephanie miller show." ♪

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