[ ♪ theme ] >> stephanie: all right. current tv land, hour number one. carlos will be replacing our jim ward today. he's out having a -- >> a colonoscopy. >> camera up the bum. >> stephanie: okay. and then hot brie in the city in hour number three. jacki schechner. >> i'm sure that's information jim wanted you to share with the world. >> stephanie: he doesn't care. oh, and i just booked you for jacki's healthcare corner next hour. >> oh, good to know. i'll have my people phone that in. >> i'll send. >> prep on that.

>> stephanie: because i heard rush limbaugh expound on healthcare yesterday and i thought you might have some thoughts on it. >> does he want to know if oxycontin is covered? >> stephanie: i don't know if i have insurance or not. his thoughts are really someone who can afford their own healthcare out of pocket. that's someone that really has a grip on exactly what the average person goes through. >> i think he's in touch with the common man. >> stephanie: exactly. all right. in the meantime, here's nurse jacki in the current news center. >> as expected, cory booker has won the democratic nomination land go up against republican steve for senate. the popular mayor of newark won about 60% of the vote with 90% of precincts voting. his closest opponent, frank pallone came away with 20. if booker wins the special election on october 16th as he is extremely likely to do, he will serve out the remaining 15 month of lautenberg's term then would have to run began in 2014.

egyptian security forces in cairo are cracking down on protestors who are demanding the return of ousted president mohamed morsi. thousands of people participating ran from teargas and armored vehicles as chaos ensued sparking uprising across the country. trains stopped running, banks closed today. reporting are varying significantly as to fatalities and injuries but the egyptian health ministry reports 56 people have been killed and 526 people injured nationwide. members of the muslim brotherhood and morsi supporters claim authorities used life ammunition against them but the government says it only used teargas in dispersing the crowds. u.s. embassy in cairo closed at 1:00 p.m. local time today as retaliatory attacks across the country sparked -- and morsi remains under house arrest. the government is allegedly moving ahead with plans to draft a new constitution. we'll keep an eye on that as it

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♪ it's a beautiful day ♪ don't let it get away >> stephanie: shh we've taken our jim ward crystals and replaced them with -- >> that's good coffee. >> stephanie: watch the fun. coffee with carlos. >> i'll have a senior cappuccino >> mountain grown coffee. >> i was going to make espresso. >> hand-picked by juan valdez. >> great to the last drop. >> stephanie: who's in the big

boy chair? carlos is filling in for jim ward. >> i've been working on my eric cantor but i think it sounds like al gore. >> stephanie: hard to achieve that level of bitch face. >> stephanie: you would have thought that current would have thought of an ass cam. he's having a colonoscopy. >> you're less diplomatic. i just said he's resting his vocal cords. wrong end. sorry. [ "price is right" losing horn ] intelligent humor. that's what i bring. >> stephanie: all three hours, carlos live in studio with us. how cool is that. starring in the new pixar film, "planes." >> number one. little space fantasy thing. go see "planes." you, go see "planes." you're a bad parent if you don't take them.

>> stephanie: you're a bad parent and you hate america if you don't take your kids to see "planes." >> your voice is all over the commercials. >> i don't know why i showed up this morning. >> right? >> number three movie this week. >> i was stopped and frisked on the way though. [ speaking foreign language ] >> stephanie: if we were in new york, you would not have made it on time. you would have been in mid-frisk. >> don't stop and frisk your brown friends. it's not right! >> stephanie: all right. so i don't know how you are on all of those nsa stuff. this is what's going to happen. all of our conspiracy theory friends are going to say i deliberately waited to do all of the stuff when jim wasn't here. and my story is that he's having a colonoscopy. not here to defend himself. no, we've been getting into -- what would you call it, chris, a spirited debate. >> yes. >> stephanie: about the nsa stuff and snowden, hero, traitor, blah, blah, blah.

anyway, paul in houston writes steph, listening to jim ward talk about the nsa makes me want to pull my eyelashes out. this is the same guy who says the founders couldn't have imagined assault weapons when writing the second amendment. paul in houston. [ applause ] i just -- i just think -- and again, you can fill in for jim and say i'm an idiot. but it is a tough balance between security and privacy. you can't have 100%. i don't think of either. >> are there ways to give up less of your -- i don't want to say freedom but when you engage in facebook and twitter, you are engaging in perhaps an arena that might allow you to be spied on more so that you do have a choice. >> stephanie: i signed up with netflix. i gave up all of my civil liberties just for "house of cards." thanks, kevin spacey. >> game of cards or house of

thrones? >> you can't get game of thrones on netflix. >> you can get them individually in the mail. we do. but yeah, if you've got a great tv show, you're in trouble. they'll spy on you. >> stephanie: you need oranges. >> that's a great show. >> stephanie: house of cards is addictive. you keep watching episode after episode. >> that's called binge watching. welcome to 2006. >> stephanie: thank you. >> we watch newsroom and that takes care of everything. >> newsroom is good this season. >> stephanie: i've watched one i think so far. >> it gets a lot better. >> stephanie: and i happen to watch network again over the weekend. >> go to your windows. we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore. >> i want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it and stick your head out and yell "i am as mad as hell and i'm not going to take this anymore." >> stephanie: jim will be back tomorrow to do just that.

i'm sure he's kept his stack of mail. >> jim would be questioning snowden's timing on it. of. >> stephanie: i agree with the president. i don't think he's a patriot. i just don't. daniel writes, i'm just going to read all of my people. daniel writes snowden and manning aren't the people i would choose to make life and death security choices. i made poor decisions in my 20s on dog food. love to you, chris and my leftist buddy daniel in bowling green, ohio. >> willing to do this for attention. any time you're palling around with pursuant, it is hard to call you a patriot. good boy, good nice. good kid. very good kid. very good. you drink a lot, you know, he drink. everybody together shirtless. >> stephanie: we all cite our stuff. jim yesterday, chris was reading from the latest guardian thing. i like bob siska on this. >> we're about ready to post them. >> stephanie: he wrote two

pieces recently. "the guardian" publishes a self-debunking nsa article. i'll stop writing about glen greenwald's nsa coverage when he stops lying. i think that a lot of what good -- it is very self-aggrandizing. he's the one who put snowden up to it. it is not like he was in this job and legitimately got outrage and was a whistle-blower. greenwald put him up to it. he took the job to do this. >> so we are being cyber netically stopped and frisked while people are on the streets of different colors are being literally stopped and frisked. we're -- over the web sites, we are being -- stalked. [ ♪ magic wand ] >> stephanie: a lot of issues are coming together in stop and frisk in terms of security and people's rights. >> back in the day -- >> stephanie: i get it. there is a balance. and lot of the issues, you mean,

it's hard because i'm really anti-gun. i love bloomberg getting guns off the streets. do you know what i mean? everyone likes a safer city. but again, clearly, they racially profiled. >> the question is to how the percentage of guns they are getting versus the percentage of people that are being unlawfully frisked. so is it worth it? >> stephanie: higher percentage of white people are the ones that had weapons. >> maybe moot if it was an open-carry law. i was thinking has the nra been dormant on this? have they been commenting on the fact that people are getting searched for their guns? >> stephanie: they don't -- it seems to me when there is a person of color, they seem to be remarkably -- [ crickets chirping ] what's the word, chris? tumbleweeds. did they come out, chris and say anything about the trayvon martin should have been armed? [ crickets chirping ] because it is the solution to every situation would be more guns, of course.

did you hear the story yesterday, the guy was shot in a gun safety class? spectacular. by the instructor. >> oh, yipes. accidently or on purpose? yipes. >> stephanie: when you think about that, what a lesson in gun safety. [ gunfire ] >> stephanie: whatever you do, don't do that. >> i forgot my glasses today but it's going to be fine. no. >> stephanie: jewel i had in seattle writes mama, it made my blood boil when the father of ed snowden said the president had sacrificed nothing for his country comparable to what snowden junior had done with his info dumps. he went on to say what a lot of people have pointed out about the president. obama could have walked into any place in manhattan and been making millions. they could have stayed in the higher etch lons rolling in money and prestige and ending up as partners, instead, they chose to orient their lives toward service. he went to chicago to work with disadvantaged communities and

claude his way to be p.o.t.u.s. against all odds. that's not sacrifice? the notion that all of the hard work and forgoing of many easier routes to wealth is nothing when compared to some high school dropout who protested as what he saw as privacy violations by getting on a plane, going to china and dumping flash drives. he chose to go to one of the most totalitarian regimes on the planet and turn over what he had to the bastard people in charge of china, a country where women are discovered to be illegally pregnant are hauled off the streets and are forced to endure late-term abortions, a country that occupies the nation of tibet, systemically destroying our religion, way of life, a country where books are religion and the internet are controlled by the freaking nonelected government where people work as near slaves in deplorable factories and are routinely imprisoned for their beliefs in speech and so in conclusion, if jim gets in resentful mode, you have permission to whomp him

with a picture of a real hero. she's helpfully included a picture of our president. >> you can't get fried rodent in china in the food stands. and visit the headquarters of -- whatchamacallit. urban outfitters. that's what i want to say. this is where it all begins. >> stephanie: can we wait until cocktail hour yesterday? did carlos do this? >> i'm like 4-5. >> stephanie: no, you are not. all right. so obviously a lot of -- you know, emotion and passion on both sides. i will -- go ahead. >> start it all with what? homeland security after 9-11. delved into this need to spy on our citizens because intermixed with our citizens were possible terrorists. at that point, we began to give up our liberties and in that sense, you could say that what

happened or what bin laden did was effective in their goals to disrupt the way americans live. >> stephanie: we had michael tomasky on from the "daily beast" yesterday. he was saying that in his lifetime, he's never seen a president voluntarily give up executive power like the president did and he cited, you know, an actual speech he gave before all of the snowden leaks. i think his point, the president's point was we could have done this without leaking that classified national security information to china and russia and god knows who else. >> putting people in danger. >> stephanie: that, to me is why he's not a hero. 17 minutes after the hour. we'll continue with more on this coffee with carlos as raki. >> it is good exercise. the kids just love it. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." >> viewpoint. >> carl rove said today that mitt romney is a lock to win

next pope. he's garunteeing it. >> joy behar: say anything. >> is the bottom line then that no white person should ever, ever, ever use the "n" word? >> yes! >> only on current tv.

>> announcer: stephy. ♪ >> carlos is in the movie "planes" so i'm playing "fly." >> stephanie: let me pause a moment to read a review from the "l.a. times." i just happened to stumble upon it from the movie "planes." the international emphasis is calibrated there. is not a villain among them unless you count carlos alazraqui, the movie's

scene-stealer. >> what? >> that's right. >> i'll steal it like a good minority. >> stephanie: i don't know what it is about animation per se but it seems to have unleash the inner don juan in actors and animators alike. shrek has puss in boots. alazraqui does the same for "planes." though his passion for rochelle, julia louie dreyfuss with the accent to match, his wooing is relentless. it is the film at its most charming. oh, carlos. >> i bring charm and passion to "the stephanie miller show." >> stephanie: by the way, it was carlos musical suggestion. i'm not being racist. what should we use? masterpiece theatre? you said no. >> when i was in mexico nursing a chub -- chub cabra --

>> what is your favorite curse word? [ laughter ] >> stephanie: i've worked with him a long time. i know all of them. >> let's go with the clean version which is shenanigans. [ laughter ] >> up to some shenanigans. >> stephanie: 1-800-steph-12 the phone number. wilma in birmingham wants to chime in on the nsa stuff. >> caller: i wanted to say we're look at the fact that snowden is a thief. he took information and gave it to somebody else. >> stephanie: i thought the president made a good point on that. if he believes what he did is right, he can come back here to america and face charges. >> caller: that makes him a coward. his father should stop sticking up for him because he's in the wrong. >> stephanie: well, to drag the president -- to say he sacrificed more for his country than the president? >> a little bit much. >> caller: he hasn't sacrificed

anything except our information. >> stephanie: exactly. go ahead, carlos. >> his father could go join him in lovely russia. >> stephanie: at least he's out of the airport. where do we think he ate the most? >> at the moscow airport sbarro. >> stephanie: which can get old. >> your tab has been paid for, my friend. put it on putin's tab. his father thinks he's such a hero and wonderful place to be, pack up the bags and move to beverly hills. >> stephanie: there you go. >> it is the st. petersburg hill hillbillies. >> stephanie: we did link up to the daily banter. carlos cites their articles. i don't think -- the problem is like when it's not your opinion, people go who's that? bob makes a point of saying he's had several civilized discussions with greenwald. he's trying not to personalize it about snowden or greenwald.

there are a couple of pieces. i'll just quote a couple of them. we linked up on stephanie miller show facebook. jim happened to quote this article yesterday. "the guardian" said, it is just -- particularly in this day and age, you can't take a gospel necessarily -- that's all i think is there's two sides to this. his headline, "the guardian" publishes a shocking nsa article. there is no liberal media. they're interested in having a story. they don't care who it is good for and not good for. he talks about president obama -- the press conference. he said unfortunately, rather than an lawful process to debate the reforms, repeated leaks of classified information have initiated the debate in a passionate but not fully informed way. who was it? the former intelligence agent wrote an "l.a. times" op-ed where he was saying the same thing. it is a lot of people who don't really know everything about this that are spouting off about

it. i'm not saying we can't have an opinion. >> i'm certainly in the group who doesn't know enough about it. how does he differ from assange, the wikipedia leaks person? is there differences? >> and manning. how do the three differ? why is one person like snowden getting all of this attention? >> stephanie: well, i think manning is, too. you know, again, this is not -- a lot of it is above my pay grade, too. who is it we had on who was talking about if he had just leaked the video, that would be different. he leaked an enormous amount -- someone made the analogy if they leaked the pentagon papers and all of our troop movements in vietnam. there's such a volume of stuff that you can't just say it's okay. anyway -- >> he should have hired an editor. >> stephanie: there you go. anyway, bob writes not always fully informed is a bit of an understatement. earlier that day, i posted an article documenting the top ten most inaccurate and exaggerated claims made by agenda journalists covering the nsa

beat. but he talks about in a new bombshell article in "the guardian" posted on friday, the article -- he just says the article sensationalistic headline makes it appear as if the story has reached new levels of unconstitutional egregiousness. you can read, i'm not going to go point by point but i would give him a read at the daily banter and see what your opinion is. he just says "the guardian"'s reporting not only undermines the debate with wild sensationalism but represents a dark chapter in the development of digital journalism which tweets and traffic about journalistic integrity. again, you know, read it. you can form your own opinion about it. but again, this article about greenwald i don't think makes it personal. he feels strongly about what he feels is some of the self-aggrandizing -- what's the word? i guess exaggerations he thinks glen greenwald has made. let's go to richmond, virginia. ray. hello, ray. >> caller: hi, steph. how you doing?

>> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: listen, let me preface what i have to say by saying that you know, i'm very progressive. i want to put that out there first and foremost but the thing is that i'm hard pressed to understand where you're coming from in terms of snowden. one of the things we have to understand, you can't divorce the economic situation from reality. and as it comes to people, there is a tremendous -- for government to do very bad things. more information that we have, the better to prevent or stall a lot of potential injustices that may be -- i don't understand why you guys are putting down snowden in terms of being a traitor. i see him as being heroic. he could have went along with the program and get paid for it. to me, he has a conscience. >> stephanie: that loves leaking thousands of classified national security secrets to the press? 29 minutes after the hour. more on this as we continue coffee with carlos on "the

stephanie miller show." >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking?

this show is about analyzing, criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

>> i thought she was some actress looking for her 15 minutes of fame but she's pretty sharp. >> stephanie: we're in the midst of coffee with carlos alazraqui. if you would like to see him live -- >> comedy days, september 15th, comedy in the park in san francisco, california, september 26th. stand-up revolution with jimmy in the improv october 11th. marin showcase theatre. check out a film, strange

nature. find information about strange nature. true story about lakes in minnesota being polluted. 70% right of deformities in frog population. taking over the normal population. this is kind of being swept under the rug. >> that's your starter film? >> yes. it is my friend, jim. >> stephanie: fabulous. thank you, carlos. why, all right. by the way, speaking of fun facts, kids would also like to know -- we'll get to the love letter in a minute. they would also like to know where you can see us after tomorrow. brandon writes steph, question, what happens to your tv show after august 20th. >> stephanie: well, 20th is when al jazeera launches. our last show will be tomorrow here on the current television network. will al jazeera america continue to carry your show? >> no. >> stephanie: they're not doing opinion. they're doing news. a lot of great people will be joining them.

ali velshi and soledad o'brien. everybody's last show on current will be tomorrow. is this the end of the line when current tv goes off the air or will your show find a new home? >> computer says yes. >> stephanie: yes, indeed. we can't tell you yet or we would have to kill you. how do we put this, chris? we're entertaining several offers. >> options at this point. >> stephanie: we can't tell you -- our contract still is until september 1st then we're on vacation the first week in september. so we -- there will be some lag time. stephanie miller show facebook. follow us there. stephaniemiller chop. we'll let you know where the new television outlet is for the radio show. >> we'll throw up. >>stream camera at you. >> stephanie: you can catch my commercial break burps. >> no. >> stephanie: not the commercial breaks? >> no. you'll be able to see us during the commercial breaks but not hear us.

>> stephanie: maybe this. jeffrey with a love letter. these are the kind of love letters that are very touching. very deep, carlos. travis was nice enough to forward this. i guess this was sent to travis? >> it was sent to travis. >> stephanie: if i was to send stephanie an 8x10 face picture, do you think she would put it on her chair and sit on my face for the whole show? she has such a sweet ass. jeffrey. >> stephanie: thank you, jeffrey. that's very sweet. [ applause ] very, very -- no. no, i will not. but thanks for asking. >> stephanie miller were to take my x -- 8x10 to the bathroom. >> stephanie: what's the other one? [ "price is right" losing horn ] it is too used now. >> take it to kinko's and get it laminated for god's sake. >> stephanie: we've got a budget here.

lana in idaho, you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> good morning, stephanie. i'm going to miss you guys. >> stephanie:, no you're not. >> we're not going -- radio is our bread and butter. >> caller: yeah, but i don't have access so much so. >> stephanie: you'll be watching us on our new television outlet. >> caller: i sure hope so. i'm calling about snowden and i have a different opinion obviously. i know everybody, you know, i know you in particular have a desire to believe and trust you know. that's a good thing. >> stephanie: but lana, sid yesterday, it is not just that i trust the president. i really believe there needs to be some balance between security and total privacy. what i'm saying is i don't think in this -- what's the word, carlos, internet able, that we can expect the 100% privacy. >> well, this is a big difference between 100% privacy and 100% loss of privacy. >> stephanie: that's right.

>> i feel like you're really cheerleading for the other side. and that's just really -- >> stephanie: who has the other side? >> caller: the other side is being, you know, an area where we're going into a really dark place if we don't stop it right now. >> stephanie: lana, what's the other side? isn't there just an american side? lana. isn't there just an american side? >> caller: well, it's actually a global side. it is corporations against the people. the corporations are the ones that want all of the information, all of the power, all the money and if we don't have -- we don't have some sort of controls over our own lives, how are we ever going to take back? how are we ever going to have the freedom to have a world where we can travel. >> stephanie: lana, what do you mean about that in regards to the nsa thing? what are you talking about in terms of the corporations? what do we do? >> in terms of the corporations, first of all, this is all

married with business. with corporations. it is not just nsa. mussolini said that the definition of fascism should really be called corporatism because it is when the corporate and the government merge. what do you think this is? >> we did that in the '50s. i talk about this in my act and people wig out. the milk and dairy council created the four basic food groups, put it into our school system. we believed through public education that milk was a bona fide drink for humans. cow's milk is good for -- so we were being sold those types of things very early on. it has been a merger between the two. >> stephanie: then we were like what is this lactose intolerant? we've been told for years -- >> weed is the same thing. all of the pesticide sharifeled up crop. it is good for you. we'll believe what we want to believe. there is complicit between the government and corporations to

push a product. look at monsanto, radiated crops. all of those kind of things. the way to get away from it, john robbins who was heir to baskin robbins, raised his own food. >> stephanie: i'm going to have an alpaca farm. >> probably the only thing you can do to get away from the tentacles of corporate ie government influence or spying on your life. >> stephanie: carlos, what were you saying in particular though? you were talking about snowden and your instinct about him during the break. >> my instinct about him is it seems altruistic for him to just do this without wanting to get attention. i just -- i just have some doubts about it. i think there is a way to -- i don't know if there is a way to quietly to do this and not want to be in the spotlight. his father is speaking up as well. >> stephanie: i had no idea what your opinion is when we asked you to fill in for jim ward who is really out having a colonoscopy today and i did not magically replace him with

someone -- [ ♪ magic wand ] >> boy, there's not enough people these days that are not wanting to be on the camera's eye, you know. >> stephanie: this is, i think, bob sesk a a's point, again, you can have your opinions, i'm not saying obviously glen greenwald has done some great journalism. this is not a personal -- he's just -- bob feels he's misrepresenting things. he just said -- this piece is -- i'll stop writing about glen greenwald's nsa coverage when he stops lying. the ferocity which i pursue the story is a direct reflection upon the pervasiveness of the misinformation from greenwald, edward snowden and the collected acolytes on the nsa issue because i feel as if he's leading a considerable segment to the left, nonempirical road. i think it's wrong. that's where he's coming from. i mean, a lot of -- part of the point he's made and a lot of people have made is this president has been one of the best presidents ever on

whistle-blower protection. so to try to -- i think he said something, i don't know what it was on msnbc about all of the whistle-blowers we've thrown in the came for years. it is like that simply is not true. anyway, he writes greenwald continues to conflate legitimate whistle-blowers with men who leak security secrets to the press or foreign governments. based on the act the president signed the whistle-blower protection enhanced enforcement act, he's used his means of encouraging workers to come forward through proper channels and expose anyone who is engaged in waste, fraud or abuse. that's not what this is. and i understand we can have our opinions and that's why the president's reviewing it is as to what degree we should be doing this or that. he didn't blow the whistle on something illegal or something that -- nobody knew was happening. anyway, one more. he said what the obama administration and all administrations tend to object to is the indiscriminate leak of thousands of national security secrets to the press. regardless of any perceived

heroism of the leak, this is a crime which ought to be prosecuted. yet again, what we've witnessed during the five years are sentences that have been quite lenient. we're talking about up until now. certainly not the melodramatic cloak and dagger he wants his disciples to believe. they never speculated the government might assassinate snowden. these men are incite an important discussion and their claims must be matched with the truth. >> if you were to put snowden's actions in the arena of the military, you know, how this person would have been perceived. you know. as a person that's, as you say, compromising military secrets, intelligence secrets and things like that. you may have been looked on -- he may have been looked on completely differently under the auspices of being a military person. because he's a civilian, it seems to endear him with more liberties to just say here's all of the secrets. some of them are really good and some of them are really dangerous.

>> stephanie: eric in atlanta real quick. we'll take one before the break. hey, eric. >> caller: hey, steph. this is what i would like to ask all liberals. i have three points i want to make right quick. i'm behind -- all to snowden, do all liberals think that everybody who is working for the government and these secrets should reveal secrets of what they know. number two, why do liberals never leak anything such as ron whiting. why didn't he filibuster the patriot act when it came up? in 2006, this was going on, why is it always a -- someone in the government such as snowden, is it someone like right-winger who is wrong because something happened to them. basically said -- let me say this. i love your show.

all of the lib berals -- this is the problem. they get behind things that the right thing puts out and what you will find out is that snowden is a coward. he did not stand up for what he did. he ran and you will see it is all right wing such as it was a conspiracy in order to prove that. just like he did. why not kill him and get all of the secrets. that would be the best thing that could happen. >> stephanie: all right. i need to chew on that for a minute. >> he's so far right that he's left that jim embraces it. >> stephanie: somebody wrote a piece about that, about the far left and the far right. some cases are like meeting on some of this stuff. becomes anti-government stuff. >> did i like what he said about valerie plame and novack outing him. why wasn't the same -- >> stephanie: exactly. 46 minutes after the hour.

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>> wine coolers. >> stephanie: mike in west virginia, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, mike. >> caller: good morning. good morning, mama. i'm disappointed you're leaving current but i'm happy for your new opportunity. i really, really am happy that liberal media is still alive and well. >> stephanie: i'm alive. >> caller: at least a portion of it. the thing i would say about snowden, i'm kind of a law & order guy, i was raised by a cop and a teach. when you make an agreement like you do with someone like booz allen, you're going to pay me to do this job, you should have a reasonable expectation the guy is going to do his job. nobody's really talking about that. the guy took the job, i think, probably under some odd circumstances. >> stephanie: he was already talking to greenwald before he took the job. he took the job expressly to do this. >> that's what's so, i think, unreported or underreported, i think to a certain extent. >> stephanie: thank you. all right. yeah, i was reading somebody else -- let's see.

this is -- the people's view, everybody's opinions are valid. there are points jim makes that i agree with on this. anyway, he writes talking about the president. he called out "the guardian" and their attention whore in chief, glen greenwald. i'm not calling him that. i'm just saying. >> you're quoting. >> stephanie: without mentioning them by name but pointing out the drip by drip release is meant to maximize attention which is what you said, carlos. rather than contribute to any legitimate debate. the president hit the nail on the head when he called out the canonization of a traitor by pointing out the fact that he and edward snowden had called for a review of the programs and their transparency. mike tomasky, it was in may the president gave a speech about this is before the leaks, you know. even the president admitted, would it have gone this fast and been this public? the point is that necessarily a good thing when there's more light than heat is what his point was.

snowden's only contribution to the process was to disrupt it and hurt the debate by generating heat rather than life. it was the about the that provided safeguards for whistle-blowers. if ed snowden believed himself to be a whistle-blower acting in the interest of his country rather than the political benefit for himself and benefit of glen greenwald, he would have noticed president obama been the strongest advocate for whistle-blowers. he took pains to stop agency retaliations against whistle-blowers. he goes on to -- i'm not going to do all of it. he says he had no interest in the actual policy or even the actual facts. he and his foreign media had a simple goal to generate sensational headlines, on be jugate the reality and get people riled up to serve their libertarian agenda by spreading the myth of government surveillance under every pillow. not a single news organization wants to talk about how it has hurt national security and civil

liberties. one person's view i don't necessarily agree with all of it and some of the language in it. >> it seems like a parallel. talks about the inability of the occupy wall street people to be organized and have one main cause and to just sort of haphazardly say we're going to protest wall street. we're going to expose everything. well, can you do it in a man they're doesn't jeopardize national security? >> no. we're just going to do it. like you say, talking to greenwald before he took the job. >> stephanie: we went to an anti-war rally. we were like hemp people, we're trying to get out of a war. >> take my plan. >> well, i watched that episode of the newsroom and when occupy wall street first started, we got all -- all of a sudden got all of the e-mails saying why aren't you covering this occupy wall street? you didn't send out a press release or anything. you didn't let the press know about it and now you're yelling at the press for not covering it. >> stephanie: we do support

it. particularly when we were doing sexy liberal. >> some of their methods about yelling at the media for not covering it, that rubbed me the wrong way. >> the marlon brando and the bunch, what are you yelling about? what have you got? >> stephanie: nicely done. i can see why the "l.a. times" was so kind in their review. >> scene sterial. >> stephanie: had a whole seen going on and carlos thieved it right out from under us. we should have frisked him. >> you know in spanish harlem, they have stop and salsa. makes the weapons fall out when they're shaking their booty. >> stephanie: right out to johnny carson right out in nance here in beautiful downtown burbank. 58 minutes after the hour. back with more car coffee with carlos and jacki schechner is next on "the stephanie miller show."

>> stephanie: hello current tv land. hour number two. carlos alazraqui live in studio all three hours. hot brie, third member be of our truffle will be here in our number three. >> she and i went to the movies yesterday. >> stephanie: i heard. you saw -- fruitvale station? >> yeah. really powerful, well done. >> stephanie: that's what i heard. now, cue the right wing freakout because something else has happened with obamacare. that's why we need nurse jacki stat. because something about out-of-pocket costs and the minute i heard rush limbaugh yesterday, i thought i'm going

to have to lend him jacki. he seems confused by the affordable care act. i'm sure he's just in need of some information. >> i decided my job is to demystify and debunk. >> stephanie: all right. so we'll have nurse jacki in here stat right after the news in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody. news of escalating violence continues to pour out of egypt this morning. developments are moving quickly but we're hearing reports now that at least two journalists have been killed. one a veteran sky news cameraman and another a staff reporter for a gulf news publication called express who was home on leave in cairo. the egyptian health ministry puts the death toll at 56 killed, 562 people injured in clashes nationwide and "the washington post" reports witnesses have counted at least 42 fatalities at the largest sit-in dispersed by police in cairo's district. according to the a.p., egypt state tv reports the president has declared a month-long state of emergency.

former representative jesse jackson jr. and his wife, sandy in court today as they face sentencing in separate cases. they found them both guilty of misspending some $750,000 in campaign funds. jackson had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and took a strange leave of absence from congress in june of 2012. months later in february, he and his wife pled guilty to a year-long spending spree during which they purchased watches and music memorabilia. they face prison. jackson on the charge of felony conspiracy and his wife on a charge of failing to report about $600,000 of taxable income. and private first class bradley manning is scheduled to speak on his own behalf today. as the sentencing phase of his court-martial continues. it is up to him whether or not he's going to make a statement that allows him to be cross-examined by the prosecution. manning faces up to 90 years in prison for giving classified information to the web site wikileaks. we'll be back with more show for you after the break.

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>> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv. ♪ it's a beautiful day ♪ don't let it get away >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." six minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free. carlos alazraqui filling in for jim ward today in the midst of sipping the coffee with the carlos who has been excellently reviewed in the "l.a. times" for his role as -- >> scene-stealer, elchub cabra in disney's plane.

>> stephanie: are you a bad parent if you don't take your child to see planes. >> how much does a snowplow weigh? enough to break the ice. from the movie. that one's free. [ ♪ circus ] >> stephanie: don't be a bad parent. let's do one quick one. john in durham has been wait fog get in on the nsa thing real quick. hey, john. >> caller: it is weird for such a big fan of your show to be in complete agreement with the nsa on one condition and that is that they don't abuse the surveillance. think about it. if the surveillance is being abused, it is all wrong. but if it's not abused, they have to know everything. and the reason is the tourists are always -- the terrorists are always doing stuff and the corporations are -- you see the thing about how they were going to put an infrared camera in your tv and spy on you for advertisers. all the nsa has to do is mirror the feed and they've got your living room. >> stephanie: it is in the house of cards, the infrared. >> the call is coming from inside the house. [ screaming ]

>> stephanie: by the way, speaking of people addicted to netflix, like orange is the new black. here she comes. i don't know how she has time to brush up on healthcare. >> is she addicted to it, too? >> stephanie: oh, yeah. ♪ i think she gets up in the night and burns the light ♪ ♪ the only one who didn't fail and got it right was jacki schechner ♪ >> stephanie: here she is. hello, good morning, nurse jacki. >> i'm going to miss that. i'm going to have to play that on a loop in my own house. >> we'll send you the jingles. >> will you make me a mix tape? >> stephanie: because we love you so much. [ ♪ magic wand ] by the way, hot brie will be here next hour. melissa fitzgerald and we're all going out with who? saturday night? jacki's mommy is going to be in town! from miami. >> everybody says looks like you. you and my mom could be related. >> stephanie: really? >> we'll have to take a picture

and see because she has your hair color. >> stephanie: what did you say, chris? jackie's mom? ♪ ♪ jacki's mom has got it going on ♪ ♪ jacki's mom has got it going on ♪ ♪ jacki's mom has got it going on ♪ ♪ she's coming to l.a. >> that's amazing. >> stephanie: bringing it with me tomorrow. >> amazing. >> that was from steve and mary in ann arbor. >> awe. fabulous. >> stephanie: i was listening to rush yesterday. i don't know about you -- >> why, why? >> stephanie: for reasons like this. >> spying on rush. >> stephanie: i was spying

because i always want advice from someone who is multimultibillionaire who can pay for his own healthcare out of pocket. i want to know what his thoughts are about out-of-pocket costs. he said -- [ mumbling ] i don't understand this out-of-pocket cost because everything is out-of-pocket for me. i don't know if i have health insurance. i pair -- i pay for everything. how many people pay for their own healthcare out of pocket? >> it must be nice to have so much money that you don't know what you're spending it on. >> stephanie: particularly when you've -- he's had heart stuff, oxycontin addiction. >> he paid out of pocket for all of the oxycontin. >> stephanie: that's because it wasn't necessarily prescribed in the amounts he was taking it in. >> trick or treat. >> stephanie: reading a piece in salon, is obamacare really being threatened. here is a handy guide. they start by saying the revelation some insurance beneficiaries, particularly those with chronic illness will continue to pay a large out-of-pocket costs is the best

news conservatives have heard all day. this is what he was going off on yesterday. salon says obamacare opponents are putting on the same performance, every time we learn of an affordable care glitch, gain concern about those impacted by the glitch by mentioning it is a protection they don't support to begin with. then express disappointment the law is not ready for prime time as grover norquist said. then cite whatever it is as evidence the entire law should be repealed, delayed. talk to us. >> it is a good piece from bryan. it is totally true. my favorite part is the republican outrage something is not going into effect. they hate the law so much that they're outranged something is not happening. the open -- hypocrisy is extraordinary. we need to keep in mind is we can't let the perfect do the enemy of the good. there will be hiccups along the way. you're talking about what is 20%

of our gdp to make it better so people can get better access to better care for less money. it will take a heavy lift. there will be some hiccups along the way. you can't say just because everything is not totally perfect, 100% of the time, that we're not doing the right thing because we are. we're talking about getting people access to healthcare who didn't have it before and that's ultimately the goal. and making it more affordable for those who do. >> stephanie: this particular one, they're saying the latest news -- families whose plans employ separate administrators for pharmaceutical and medical benefits and who face high limits, co-pays, deductibles, they were supposed to enjoy a hard cap on annual out-of-pocket costs, the particular folks will have to wait another year until it applies to their drug coverage. >> i don't know the particulars of how this went down. but it sounds like brian says it raises a question of why insurance companies need more than three years to get this right. what it sounds like to me is

someone in the insurance industry did some good lobbying and they've talked their way out of some sort of requirement within the first year or the pharmaceutical company or whoever this ends up impacting did some good lobbying work. that's what we're up against is as we start implementing the affordable care act, there were certain interests that get in there and make their problems or not even problems but their concerns known and they start to cave a little bit. i think we need to encourage the administration and the lawmakers to stay strong on a lot of the provisions because people get in and they're very convincing. and on a one-on-one level, a lot of the lawmakers don't stay strong and they say okay, well let's give them a little bit of an exemption or if this is going to be a hardship. if you give too many, we start to dismantle ina advertently. >> stephanie: we won't go through everything. obviously the point of the piece, he says -- here are things to look for to know that

it's not just right wing hyperbole and freakout. >> right. he talks about the important parts of the law to keep an eye on. and he talks about it as a -- i think brian does a nice job with this. he talks about it as a three-legged stool. keep an eye on the insurance exchanges, the beneficiaries and the regulations and within that, he talks about -- and i'll forward this article around. on twitter. but -- >> stephanie: we'll put it up on stephanie miller show facebook. >> what he talks about are the specifics to take a look at and if you start to hear some real delays or dismantling of these particular aspects then yes, it is something to be concerned about because we're getting into the nitty-gritty of the most important. but other than that, it is all hyperbole and it is all just republican panic. and you really just have to kind of keep in mind the source and the fact that you've got a lot of people who are betting on this failing and they're gonna

blow up information as best they can. >> stephanie: you, i think, you know, calmed someone that called last time in the healthcare corner about -- if you're in a red state where the governor obviously has done everything they can to obstruct this but you said in terms of the exchanges, the government's going to run them then. >> the federal government -- the default is that the federal government takes over the state-based exchanges. they may not have medicaid which is going to be problematic because of the people who don't make enough money to afford healthcare, won't have access to the healthcare they need. blame it on the right person. get angry at your republican legislature. get angry at your republican governor. that's where the blame lies because the federal government has agreed to pick up the cost of the medicaid expansion and just on principle alone and not good principle, these republicans lawmakers are refusing to expand it. >> stephanie: let's see if we have any surgeons about to go into surgery. let's go to -- let's see here,

buddy in columbus. you're on "the stephanie miller show." welcome, buddy. >> caller: hey, mama. hey, jacki, i got a question. i got a letter from my insurance company healthcare. not that i don't trust them but i don't trust them. [ laughter ] >> caller: they sent something that they want to work with me during these changes. there are a couple of things. they say i'm grandfathered in. i pay for myself and my son. what questions should i ask them and number two, explain to me what this 80/20 will do. i have hardly any -- i don't have any -- no charges against it. should i get a rebate or something? >> okay. the 80/20 rule, you'll hear it referred to as medical loss ratio, part of the law that requires that insurance companies spend at least 80% of premium dollars on actual medical care. they can only spend 20% of the money they collect on things like marketing, salaries,

overhead, stock buyback, whatever it happens to be that they're spending your money on. 80% of that has to go to medical care. the government is now keeping track of that and insurance company falls short, it is required now by law to return the difference back to patients, consumers, customers. in some cases, your employer gets that money back and you won't see it because of the nature that those employer-based plans are administered, the way that they're administered. if you have an individual plan, the likelihood is you'll get that money back. if your insurance company does a good job of allocating the money the way it legally is supposed to do, you won't see any money back. which ultimately is a good thing because they're spending the money where it needs to be spending it. if it doesn't, it is required by law to return money to you. >> stephanie: buddy, you had a couple of questions that you wrote to me. you wanted to know if jacki's condition, smoking hot will be covered under affordable care act. whether you might help her with her doughnut hole if it's not.

is that correct, buddy? >> yeah. hey, jacki, one question is, is there any red flags or anything i should ask my healthcare company when i talk to them? >> yeah, well, that's a good question. one of the things you want to be able to do when you start taking a look at the plan, if you're buying an individual plan which it sounds like you're doing -- >> i'm ef employed. i cover myself and my son. >> i would take a look and ask them or take a look at your exchange in your state is available at what you have now and what they're offering and try to compare it apples to apples because what happens now with some of the grandfathered plans is that they may not be required to offer you certain benefits. the plans that are grandfathered in are the plans that don't have to comply because they got an exemption through the affordable care act but the plans that are in the exchange, what's nice about the exchange, you'll be able to compare plans next to each other and say this one offers x and y and z for this

particular amount of money and so does this -- like the way it works now, it is a free for all. you don't know what you're getting for your money. the exchange is going to lay it out in a way you'll be able to see what you're getting for your money. the question is how your plan now compares to what's going to be available. they may or may not be honest about it and you may have to do research on your own because you'll want to look for the most benefits for your buck. >> stephanie: nurse jacki, might we hold you one more segment? >> tightly. >> stephanie: spoon you and kiss you and hug you. 19 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> well, i guess that makes our naughty parts tingle. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." documentaries that are real, gripping, current. john fugelsang: if you believe (vo) this afternoon, current tv is the place for compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like.

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♪ let's groove tonight ♪ share the spice of life >> stephanie miller. ♪ we're gonna groove tonight >> stephanie: 24 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12. nurse jacki joins us for a part two of jacki's healthcare corner. it was interesting, carlos was talking about the exchanges. you were talking about how they've done everything they can to fight -- >> delay them. >> they had a two-year head start to be able to plan to implement them and 40 votes in the house to repeal obamacare. >> a lot of the republicans were counting on the supreme court ruling hoping they would overturn the affordable care act. they wouldn't have to implement it so they waited and wait and waited then they were behind the

curve. >> stephanie: carlos said one nation under god, i'm afraid that experiment is coming to an end. >> lawmakers that have to stand up to courts or quote-unquote why can't we call them activist judges and lobbyists. it seems that this plan of voting for somebody in office who says they're going to do something and you win an election and the bill is signed into law and nothing happens. there was something in california having to do with car insurance, gosh, in the late '80s, maybe '90s where people voted to slower their car rates and the insurance agencies got lobbyists and nothing was done to bring the rates down. it seems in a vague sense, this is the same thing. >> stephanie: kathleen sebelius, jacki, had to mention a few fun facts. >> it was passed and signed three years ago. [ applause ] it was upheld by the supreme court a year ago. the president was re-elected. this is the law of the land.

>> stephanie: the president talking about some of the benefits that have already kicked in, as you know, jacki. here we go. >> obama: seniors have been getting discounts on their prescription drugs. that's happening right now. free preventive care. mammograms. contraception. that's happening right now. >> stephanie: we need to shut down the government to stop all of that from happening. >> yeah. i don't know why they're so hung up on it. it is hard to explain. they're trying to treat -- and they use the word obamacare which we all know i hate. this is a monday he in lithic -- monolithic, crazy government program that's going to destroy, it is so absurd. >> stephanie: they were screaming it wasn't working. >> it hasn't even started yet. they've created this bogey man that doesn't exist. all this law is trying to do is fix a problem that is a huge problem for the american people. >> stephanie: yep.

dave in minnesota, you're on with jacki. let's try to get a couple in here. hello, dave. >> caller: hi, mama. hi, nurse jacki. >> hello. >> caller: i have a question. my first daughter starts college next year. second daughter, year after that. we've been saving money and investing in stocks since they were born. we have big capital gains we're going to take when we start selling them and our income is going to effectively double for them to go to college. they're looking at nice -- one daughter is into a nice private school. it will cost a ton. and that's going to take us from like $50,000 a year to over $100,000. now, is that going to affect -- my income is still going to be $50,000. my wife and i, $50,000 a year which would qualify for some subsidies however you throw in the capital gains and our income is going to go way up. >> yeah. that's a good question. i don't know where capital gains tax fits into that. what he's referring to, just to clarify is that when you're in

the exchange, the amount of government subsidy help you get depends on your income. it is a sliding scale. and you'll be able to purchase insurance if you're an individual purchasing insurance on the exchange, you'll be able to buy it with help from the government. to help you afford the premiums and how much help you get depends on how much you make. i don't know how capital gains fits into that and i would have to take a look at it but it certainly would make a difference because if you are in the $50,000 range, you would qualify for a subsidy. if you hit $100,000, you're probably out of that range. >> stephanie: one more. jason in d.c. you're on with jacki. go ahead. >> caller: hey, jacki. the surgery center of oklahoma, they post all of their prices on the internet for 60 days. what happens is because they're completely medical establishment, a gallbladder surgery which would cost $20,000 in a local hospital, you could pay directly that way. the problem with the medical establishment, this wasn't addressed is the fact that the hospitals do not set fixed

prices. so it is like people going into a restaurant and never seeing what the price of a hamburger is. you have no incentive to shop around to find the better product. >> yeah, no. >> stephanie: 30 seconds. >> that's absolutely true. it is one of the aspects of healthcare. >> free market. >> it is one of the aspects of healthcare reform that got buried is to be able to have competitive pricing and to be able to understand what things actually cost. but the other problem is that the healthcare market doesn't work like other commodities because we're forced consumers. you don't get -- in an emergency, you're not shopping around for the best price on a cast. you're going to the closest emergency room to get your leg set. it is an odd market where we're not necessarily -- we're definitely not voluntary consumers. we don't really have the liberty to shop for pricing in an emergency. >> right. >> stephanie: put your news cap back on. we'll see you at the top of the hour. love you, bye. miss you already. more coffee with carlos on "the stephanie miller show."

but still support the drug war, you must be high. >> i think the number one thing that viewers like about "the young turks" is that we're honest. i think the audience gets that i actually mean it. >> you're putting out there something that you're proud of. journalists want the the story and they want the right story and the want the true story. >> you can say anything here. >> i spent a couple of hours with a hooker. >> your mistake was writing a check. >> she never cashed it! >> the war room. >> compared to other countries with tighter gun safety laws, our death toll is just staggering. >> the young turks. >> the top bankers who funneled all the money to the drug lords, no sentence. there's just no justice in that. >> viewpoint. >> carl rove said today that mitt romney is a lock to win next pope. he's garunteeing it. >> joy behar: say anything. >> is the bottom line then that no white person should ever, ever, ever use the "n" word? >> yes! >> only on current tv.

if you believe in state's rights but still support the drug war you must be high. >> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day. >> do you think there is any chance we'll ever hear the president even say the word "carbon tax"? >> with an opened mind... >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> ...and a distinctly satirical point of view. >> but you mentioned great leadership so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter) >> cutting throught the clutter of today's top stories. >> this is the savior of the republican party? i mean really? >> ... with a unique perspective. >> teddy rosevelt was a weak asmatic kid who never played sports until he was a grown up. >> (laughter) >> ... and lots of fancy buzz words. >> family values, speding, liberty, economic freedom, hard-working moms, crushing debt, cute little puppies. if wayne lapierre can make up stuff that sounds logical while making no sense... hey, so can i. once again friends, this is live tv and sometimes these things happen. >> watch the show. >> only on current tv.

>> i want to send my 8x10 to the studio and have stephanie do her job -- >> stephanie: sit on it. >> while i'm there underneath. i have a hankering for it. >> stephanie: carlos alazraqui filling in for jim ward. you know what? didn't today show do an ass cam when katie couric did her colonoscopy. >> something tells me current doesn't have the funds to do something like that right now.

>> stephanie: we could have gone low tech. jim would have taken one for the team. >> shove an instamatic up there? >> stephanie: carlos is torturing you with more cute videos of his daughter. >> hold the speaker. >> on the bottom. >> i'm going to have to get to it. later that same day -- here it is. my daughter saying that i'm a good man. >> you're a good man, daddy. [ ♪ magic wand ] >> stephanie: i just ovulated. >> my daughter. >> stephanie: you're a good man, daddy. >> come home from a hard day's work and you don't always pay attention to me right off the bat and maybe don't help mom as much as you should but i'm going to tell you something, daddy, you're a good man. >> stephanie: is that what she sounds like in the morning before coffee? >> you're a good man. you deserve a coors.

>> stephanie: i get love, carlos from total strangers like nicole in atlanta. dear steph, well, that was the guy earlier that wanted me to sit on his 8x10 picture and send it back to him. which is very loving. nicole writes steph, i grew up in -- up the transit near look ca wanna. i'm from lackport. i turned my girlfriend katie on to you and she might be a bigger fan. we're taking a road trip for the first time to hear all three hours of your show. road trip! i would love to surprise katie with a shoutout from you. that's today. while we're listening. >> what are we going to do? >> road trip! >> stephanie: there is some jenny cream ale for you. >> did you everything with the upon -- pontillo. >> i said to the audience, tonight it was hard to leave my home. i said to my wife, i love you.

i turned to my baby, good night, raleigh, daddy loves you but not as much as much as i love the acceptance of strangers at the comedy club. i'll be leaving now. [ ♪ circus ] >> stephanie: you can see carlos live in a number of places. he can do the -- the arthritic poodle dancing. >> i can't turn around in this chair. >> stephanie: see how cute his butt looks when he does it. >> i can sit on your 8x10. >> stephanie: i think people would understand close-up dog. far away dog. >> dog in a truck? [ laughter ] >> stephanie: how many years have i been asking him to do that every single time. i'm the do it again girl. >> i don't think he's done dog in a trunk is new. >> stephanie: why is the dog in the trunk? never mind. >> he saw things. [ laughter ]

>> he got chatty. >> stephanie: see, that's where now my love of dogs supersedes my love of comedy. not in the trunk! you bastard. you're not a good man, daddy. >> i can't see your ass when you're doing dog in the trunk. >> stephanie: mary in montgomery, alabama. you're on with carlos. >> caller: good morning. how are you all doing? good. i have to comment on the nsa thing. >> stephanie: yes. >> caller: with snowden. whatever his name is. >> stephanie: yes. >> caller: okay. time for liberals and progressives, whoever these folks are, who are following glen greenwald, whatever his name is. time for them to grow up. because if you don't want -- if like the lady said before, we have to have some sense of freedom. i would suggest she never shop on the internet. >> stephanie: i gave away all

of my civil liberties to amazon a long time ago. >> caller: stop shopping on the internet. stop browsing the internet. stop going on the internet. >> also, pay cash for everything. if you don't want to be tracked. >> that's right. pay cash for everything. i'm sick of these whiny, panty wetters. i'm just tired of them. this world has changed. so you think you can still have your freedom from 1770 whatever, i suggest you go back to that time period. >> stephanie: mary, somebody said. that the founding fathers couldn't have imagined assault weapons when there was the second amendment. >> they couldn't have imagined the internet either. they could not have imagined the internet either. for people -- progressives and liberals that claim to be so smart, they're always acting so dumb. when you say you want to give -- whether -- what is the quote i would rather not have any freedoms than to give up any -- you don't deserve freedoms to give up liberties? >> stephanie: you mangled that worse than i mangle quotes.

ben franklin, those who give up -- privacy in the name of security deserve neither. >> caller: i would give up all privacy to save a life. >> stephanie: all right. i don't think there's 100% on either end. there's something in the middle. i want to gay marry here. she makeeled that so badly. >> what's the obama quote you get wrong? >> stephanie: we need to get out of iraq -- as -- [ buzzer ] >> you can go to cyber cafes. you can go to internet cafes and log on to somebody else's computer without being tracked, is that possible? >> stephanie: thanks for helping the terrorists out, carlos. >> you should lock down your computers when you're out and about. >> stephanie: i learned that the hard way. diane -- >> no, no, i mean lock down your wi-fi, encrypt it. not password -- because that's a different thing. >> stephanie: right.

diane in florida. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hello, diane. >> caller: good morning, stephanie. i totally disagree. i think that ed snowden did the right thing. as far as i'm concerned about all of this with him getting all of this attention, could you imagine -- this quote-unquote quietly and disappeared quietly and nobody would know anything. and you know -- >> stephanie: that's not true. >> it is outlined in the patriot act. >> stephanie: the president already talked -- he gave a speech in may. >> the patriot act that needs to be repealed. i've been screaming about this forever. >> stephanie: mike tomasky told us two of the things that are a big deal is the first narrowing of the patriot act which i agree with you, we probably do need to do and secondly is making the fisa court not a rubber stamp. having an adversarial voice there. those are a big deal and the president foreshadowed that.

i disagree with you we had to leak national intelligence secrets to russia and china for god's sakes. to have this conversation. >> caller: what was leaked to russia and china that was so freakin' dangerous? as it is, china has the blueprint to our airplanes, our military airplanes from god knows who way back when. >> stephanie: so it is no big deal? that makes that right? >> caller: it is not that it's no big deal. but by him coming out, a lot of people's eyes have been opened up big-time. >> stephanie: i don't think it's -- okay, is there something that you were shocked about seriously? >> no. not me personally. a lot of people that i know, yeah. they were really shocked. >> stephanie: well then, they're not paying attention. >> it is one issue that has

unified congress, you know on both sides of the table. ironically, it is one thing we can all agree on. >> stephanie: who wants weiner for breakfast? he's dropped to fourth. actually, he was already in fourth place, wasn't he? >> yeah, he really, really dropped to fourth on a poll that was taken yesterday. >> stephanie: they had a -- they had a debate last night, too. >> i've made mistakes. i've embarrassed myself and i've hurt my family. i've apologized for my personal behavior. the speaker refuses to apologize for overturning the will of the people, for the slush fund scandal and for things in her professional record. >> new york city council speaker christine quinn who is also running. >> stephanie: here she is. >> neither me nor anybody else on this stage or any new yorker quite frankly should be lectured by anthony weiner about what we need to apologize for tonight or ever. >> like a regular deli.

you're telling me to cut calories and you're going to eat that sandwich? go call the kettle black, weiner. >> stephanie: ted in chicago, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, ted. >> good morning. thanks for taking the call. i want to just quickly to you all, you may be the right person to start the movement of stop calling it obamacare, start calling it maybe am air care. it is for everybody. it is not just for a few and all that does is excite the right and they throw gas and hand grenades. have a nice day. >> stephanie: thank you. >> have a nice day. >> stephanie: oh, no. that would entail having to have another party that actually cared what's good for america and people getting healthcare. >> as alan grayson said, they want you to die slowly. >> stephanie: no, quick. they need you to hurry up and die. >> hurry up and die. i think you're right. it is die quickly. >> for god's sake, just die!

>> get out of way! >> stephanie: 45 minutes after the hour. more coffee with carlos on "the stephanie miller show." >> a beautifully-wrapped, glossy, sweet-smelling show. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do

care about them right?

give it up. >> make some noise for jim breuer! >> go (bleep) in your (bleep)ing hat. >> i knew he needed to get out of the house, i knew this would give him so much life. >> (grunting) >> i love getting a rise out of him. >> nice, good job. >> (grunts) >> goodnight, muffy. >> goodnight. >> love you. >> "more than me" only on current tv.

♪ ♪ everybody get your backs off the wall ♪ ♪ get on the dance floor ♪ wave your hands ♪ let's go >> stephanie: let's go. >> giving up my rights right now. i'm searching myself.

>> stephanie: procreating is the thing that makes you give up your privacy. he gave up -- >> baby stuff. >> stephanie: i'm blanking on your daughter's name. >> her name is -- riley. i'm going to find -- she goes to prepreschool. >> stephanie: how old is she? >> she turned 2 in may. >> woojy, woojy, woojy. >> stephanie: 1-800-steph-12. we're in the midst of coffee with carlos alazraqui. go ahead. >> in nursery school, they teach you a little twist on row, tro, row your boat. it is not merrily, merrily and here's how the song goes. ♪ row your boat gently down the street ♪ ♪ if you see a crocodile, don't forget to scream ♪ [ screaming ] >> stephanie: yes, siree.

>> she's got it down. >> no easy pushover sorority girl. >> that has rendered me sterile. >> stephanie: hello. let me mop the blood. >> now we're getting soundproofing sent to our house and everything. they heard the scream. >> stephanie: thank god i switched from screaming baby airlines to transvaginal bicurious. let's go to keith in milwaukee. you're on with carlos. hello, keith. >> caller: hi, guys. first off, wherever you're going on tv, i hope it is somewhere i can pick you up again because it was a dark day indeed when time-warner cable dropped you guys. my wife loved it when -- she worked and i would record it and she loved watching you guys. >> stephanie: you shall be able to again. we'll let you know as soon as we can. >> waitingwaiting with bated br. hey, you know, we're all trying to try for the smartest boy in class. and the one thing i wanted to point out, it is all speculation

on my part but this farce that's going on about dropping -- defunding obamacare and holding our economy hostage, when you look at it, look at the influence of big money in congress. this health insurance of the obamacare that we have, this is probably one of the biggest windfalls for the private health insurance companies in history in terms of getting access to a market. the other thing you have to bear in mind if things would have kept going as they were going, health insurance would have been too unaffordable for a lot of companies that had to drop it and they would be a losing market. they know that. so my point is, i think what's going on is the health insurance companies have pulled the leadership in congress, the republican leadership, play around with this, have your fun. but ultimately, we're not going to drop this because the private health insurance companies have too much at stake and the idea that they're going to cut -- they're going to park the gravy

train is ridiculous. >> stephanie: i think it is actually a point well-taken. that's why jacki often says don't put the blame -- on the president for people that are looking to blame him for everything. when it should be on the insurance companies in some instances. all right. did you -- by the by, we're not saying there's necessarily racism involved. in everything anti-obama. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] however, did you see the missouri rodeo clown with the obama mask. you know. the other clown asked who wants to see the bull run over obama. he went and played with the lips on the obama mask. you know. the president of the missouri rodeo cowboy association has resigned after getting flak about a state fair event in which a rodeo clown riled up the crowd as a bull chased a masked man imitating president obama. the event featured a man wearing an obama mask with an upside down broomstick arranged on his back side. >> he wasn't playing quidditch?

>> stephanie: no. another clown drew tears from the audience. asked if they wanted to see obama run down by the bull and made comments about the bull coming to get obama. apparently, the crowd went wild. like an old-fashioned clan rally. the missouri state fair said it banned the clown from performing at the fair. fun facts i hadn't heard, chris. the state fair and rodeo association identified the clown who made the comments about obama but a friend and relative identified the clown as toughy guessling. he's a rodeo clown named toughy. >> okay. >> stephanie: his cousin, chrissy guessling said he was at our house the next sunday for sunday dinner and told he thought people took it wrong. it was supposed to be a joke. one can only wonder what dinter guesslings is like. happy guessling has not responded. "associated press" requests for an interview made through facebook. his cousin and a friend. toughy is no en casa.

>> toughy is not so tough without a mask on. >> gretchen carlson on fox and friends was screeching this morning that others have mocked presidents in the past without being subject to such harsh penalties. >> rodeo thing. >> stephanie: rush limbaugh, surprised to know said guess whose fault it is, president obama because he's diminished the presidency by going on "the tonight show." what do you expect? >> he had it coming. >> i would say when someone throws a shoe at you in a foreign country, that's no respect for the presidency overseas. get out of here, bush. he threw a shoe at the president. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] >> stephanie: in a completely unrelated story, paula deen, have we gotten our usual hoppy letters that we owe paula deen an apology? >> we got one yesterday. >> stephanie: we'll get right on that. >> sure. >> stephanie: she won -- it was thrown out of court, she won her case.

"usa today" writing the damage has been done. paula deen's legal woes diminished on monday but it too late to resurrect her once flourishening career? computer says yes. >> stephanie: p.r. expert said like o.j. simpson, the loss in the public opinion, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. it will be challenging for her to piece this together. because in the course of the deposition, of course, she admitted she used racial slurs in the past including the "n" word under certain circumstances. >> she's going to get together with old toughy and have a party. >> stephanie: why do i guess she's been on the phone with toughy guessling? >> we're going to make some rodeo tours. >> chocolate obama cupcakes and you're going to come out in your -- >> toughy, paula deen will be calling for you. bragman says the race-based claims wasn't dropped because it wasn't true. it was dropped because of the race of the person in the claim.

her messy attempt at damage control made things worse. the handling of it was so bad, that's what took her down. we were saying when this was happening, why didn't she settle? obviously, the deposition is what hurt her. >> not the case itself. >> stephanie: exactly. all right. let's go to -- corky in rochester. you're on the "the stephanie miller show." hi, corky. >> caller: hello. this is a two-part question. >> stephanie: yes. >> caller: the procedure that jim's having done -- >> stephanie: yes? >> caller: is that equivalent to a vaginal probe? and if it is to weeks, it is outlawed in texas. >> stephanie: jim is not having a vaginal probe. he has had an ectopic pregnancy. >> that made him late once. >> this is a procedure in comparative healthcare costs in "huffington post" says in most other countries where you don't have to go to a surgery center, these things are done in office and they're roughly around $300. triple the cost here because our

country chooses to use surgery centers with added on anesthesiologists and things like that. they tack on the costs for procedure which first of all isn't as recommended as much in other countries as it is here and so that's one of the things that healthcare companies like to do. they like to -- >> stephanie: harriet in jacksonville real quick on obamacare. >> caller: hi, steph. listen, i think jacki and of some your callers have it wrong about the name obamacare. that's the only policy or law that is set for the doctrine that will have the president's name attached to it. forever, it will be associated with president obama. >> stephanie: we say yes. >> republicans gave it to him. >> stephanie: he said do, i do care. so there! hot brie in the city and we continue coffee with carlos as we continue on "the stephanie miller show."

[ ♪ theme ] >> stephanie: all right. nurse jacki, the reviews for jacki's healthcare corner this morning, almost as good as carlos alazraqui's reviews for his role as elchupacabra in "planes." here he is to sing to you the love song from plane. ♪ i'm just a love machine ♪ and i won't work for nobody but you ♪ >> oh! [ applause ] [ ♪ m magagic wand ] >> that would be ms. rochelle

for jacki. >> stephanie: we just made the voice toy work for you. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: little added something extra. >> i like that. why not. >> first one is for free. >> stephanie: here she, is the adored jacki schechner in the current news center. >> two former jpmorgan chase employees have been charged with trying to hide the size of the bank's $6 billion trading loss last year. the two men are javier, london supervisor of jpmorgan's trading strategy and julian grout who is responsible for recording the value of bad investments. the charges were unsealed today in federal court in manhattan. they included conspiracy to falsify books and records, to commit wire fraud and to falsify s.e.c. filings. the bookings institute is out today with a new study that takes a closer look at young immigrants seeking a reprieve from deportation under the administration's year-old deferred action program. the city finds that most applicants

applicants who have to be between 15 and 30 years old are under 21. two out of three of those came to the u.s. before the age of 11 and the third came here under the age of 5. brookings findings helped to make the case. many of the young people came here not on their own accord and should be granted a faster track to legal status. the study also shows that more than 2/3 who have applied for the deferred action program have been in the u.s. for at least ten years. at the same time, the white house has put out a report on the economic benefits of comprehensive immigration reform and offering a path to earn citizenship for the 11 million undocumented immigrants living and working in the united states. the report says that offering more than just legalization, offering a full path to citizenship would boost our nation's gdp by $1.4 trillion over the next ten years. that it would add about two million jobs and generate about $184 billion in additional state and federal taxes.

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give it up. >> make some noise for jim breuer! >> go (bleep) in your (bleep)ing hat. >> i knew he needed to get out of the house, i knew this would give him so much life. >> (grunting) >> i love getting a rise out of him. >> nice, good job. >> (grunts) >> goodnight, muffy. >> goodnight. >> love you. >> "more than me" only on current tv. this show is about analyzing, criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people but somehow he thinks raising the

minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them, right? vo: the war room tonight at 6 eastern ♪ it's a beautiful day ♪ don't let it get get away >> stephanie: it just got more beautiful. six minutes after the hour. why, carlos what's that? ♪ hot brie on with stephy ♪ hot brie on with stephy >> stephanie: activist melissa fitzgerald joins us. it is your job because you're filling in with jim to sexually harass her.

>> don't mind if i do. >> stephanie: if you didn't do that, i would be totally insulted. >> stephanie: just as you sat down, we were looking at the chyron. heaters in san diego has banned -- hooters in san diego has banned mayor bob filner. they don't want his type in there. >> i thought that was their target audience. >> stephanie: isn't that the point of hooters? >> what is the point? >> who orders takeout from hooters? >> they have good wings. >> and fun games. >> stephanie: and no full facial licks or headlocks. that was bob filner's technique. he would lick women on their cheek. >> disgusting. like when you were a kid and someone would do wet willy. >> i'm a cat and you're my kitten. >> all right. >> tongue was considerably less rough than a cat's. >> you don't know. >> i don't want to think about it.

>> stephanie: all right. oh, by the way, so we've been subjected to videos of carlos' little girl, riley. 2 years old. >> aww. >> stephanie: every time you come in, you have a new sitcom nephew story because they're little sitcom wise asses. >> i agree with you. lucky i have a thick skin and don't take anything personally. >> stephanie: that's right. >> we went a different direction. >> stephanie: the latest story? >> oh, yes, well -- >> stephanie: 6-year-old. >> 6-year-old. i was home last week and he wanted me to tell him a story before he went to bed. >> stephanie: in philadelphia. >> he said will you tell me a story. a funny one. so i was telling him some funny ones. i use to the do theatre. and i played snow white. my mom was there and she goes and miga looks just like snow white. and he said you do not look like snow white. not even one bit. and then he takes his fingers

and he goes not even one little bit. like snow white. you are hideous. i'm scarred, i'm scarred. he said it like that. >> stephanie: right. because the 9-year-old frequently tells her how chunky she is. also the 6-year-old does. >> they both do. >> stephanie: but the 9-year-old was concerned for you. recently said -- >> do you think that maybe the reason you don't have a boyfriend is because you're like too fat. >> man! >> and he was sincerely concerned. i said you know what? i don't think that's it and anyone who wants to go out with me who thinks i'm too fat is someone i don't want to go out with. i want to go out with me for the same reasons you like me because i'm nice and fun. >> stephanie: carlos, it is another episode of little dudes don't know what -- >> you need to communicate with

your nephews. this think is dr. phil. while they think they're having fun, they're actually being rude. how would they like it if you called them fat and hideous. you need to flip the switch and turn the table and we're back in two. >> stephanie: thank you, carlos. >> thank you. >> stephanie: noted dr. [ bleep ], dr. phil. you also got an abject lesson in the difference between little boys and little girls. >> one of my best friends, shelly, i went to visit her in washington, d.c. and i was staying at their house. she has two daughters, a 5-year-old and a 2-year-old who are darling. they come in and i'm getting ready and putting on my makeup and my dress. they said you look so pretty. i love your hair. i love your dress. [ ♪ hypnotic ] is that your toothbrush? yes. i really like it. i want to be you. honestly. >> stephanie: little girls generally more supportive.

>> i almost fainted. >> that was a little bridge et fonda. >> stephanie: see, it is like riley, you're a good man. your daughter just picked up a football and yelled fumble! i really thought she was a girly girl. >> stephanie: i guess not. >> you're a good man, daddy. >> stephanie: so we were talking about the nsa stuff before the break. and i'm i imagine we'll all be called neoconditions on twitter later. >> some people call me a loony lefty and a neocon. my dad now tells me i'm middle of the road. >> stephanie: your republican dad says you're middle of the road. what has happened to the politics in this country? carlos, you were saying the same thing. it is not a conspiracy. jim ward is having a colonoscopy today. we did not replace him with someone who agrees with me. >> he has a camera up the bum as

we speak. >> he pulls off the mask. >> i'll bet the nsa is watching that tape. >> stephanie: exactly. you guys were discussing your thoughts on -- i just -- i was reading some stuff from bob seska this morning and we had mike tomasky on yesterday. i just think there's some balance here between private -- >> of course there is. it is not black or white. i mean, i think -- when my dad says i'm middle of the road, it is because gosh, things are complicated. it is not being middle of the road but it is taking things into account. like do we want 100% freedom and then when we get hit, then everyone goes sharply to the other direction. i don't know. >> the myth we thought we were completely free and maybe we never were. >> stephanie: you were saying, you were talking about after 9-11 and the patriot act, and this -- that is a big deal that the president is talking about it, the first narrowing of the patriot act which i agree with. it needs to be looked at. he talked about that and the

fisa court. those are significant. >> isn't he the first president to willingly give up executive powers and say i'm logical to do this. that's a big deal. nobody is giving him credit for that either. that sort of irritates me. >> all along, to be vulnerable and extend an olive branch. he's gotten nothing but gotten his hand bit. it is part of his personality to open up and be like that and be vulnerable. it always seems to backfire. >> sometimes it backfires. but i think it results in better policy which benefits all of us in the long run and i think historically, he will be looked upon better than he is being looked upon now. i really do think so. >> stephanie: this will be the latest thing we'll hear from our lefty friends about. james clapper, director of national intelligence who misled congress to establish a surveillance review group -- i know! it doesn't look good. >> that doesn't look good. >> stephanie: but i was watching him on tv yesterday. and i did at least understand

him saying he felt like the question was a when did you stop beating your wife question. he was right. it was. so i mean, again, i think that -- mike tomasky was saying if you looked -- he notated it. the speech was in may when he talked about this stuff. it was before the snowden leak. so you know, i think you've said this. did this have to entail giving russia and china all of our national intelligence? no, it did not. >> how do you define a whistle-blower? and what's the amount of information that you can, you know, release and also the way they're releasing it in dribs and drabs. i feel like there are steps. do you go to whistle-blower lawyer? did he go to members of congress? no, he didn't. did he go to china and hand over a bunch of flash drives and russia? yeah. i have a problem with that. i'm not saying that what he did ultimately isn't valuable but at what cost and we're not sure. >> stephanie: right. chris, the main reason i wish

jim were here, when i say it, i'm an idiot. when she says it -- [ ♪ hypnotic ] herp derp. you're right, pretty girl! i like your boobies. that's what he does. he never disagrees with her. >> she never says i'm right when i say stuff like that either. >> stephanie: same goofy grin on his face. [ ♪ hypnotic ] pretty! >> stephanie: we need to sit your nephews down with him. chat about what big dudes like. let's see phil in oregon, you're on with carlos and hot brie. >> caller: i'm going to open the door when i leave. >> stephanie: pardon me? >> caller: hello. >> stephanie: go ahead. >> caller: hi. this is phil in bend, oregon. one of the things you guys have totally missed is that senator moynahan, before he left office, one of his initiatives was to reduce the amount of secrets and

you know, i think -- >> stephanie: who before he left office? >> senator moynahan. >> stephanie: moynahan, right. >> caller: his initiative was to reduce the number of secrets. there are just too many secrets. the fact that bradley manning could put all of that stuff out, you know, it is just ridiculous. do we really -- >> stephanie: should it be up to him which things should remain secret or which things shouldn't? >> no. put it before congress. let's come up with a program to reduce the number of secrets. there's just too many. >> stephanie: you mean classified? what's classified or not. that could be. maybe there is too much stuff that's classified. you know, again, i don't think -- edward snowden is the one that's qualified. we didn't elect him to decide what stuff should remain secret, right? >> congress is probably more qualified, obviously. >> certain members of congress,

some of them lately. >> i don't want blake. >> stephanie: yeah, that guy. >> generally, yes, i agree with you. i totally agree. that's absolutely true. you also have to look at the amount of material. when you know, manning releases 720,000 documents and you know, field reports and cables, i just think that's crazy amount of information. to be releasing. >> stephanie: we said it earlier, i keep forgetting who said it but it would have been as if released the pentagon papers and sent in geraldo with our troop movements in the sand in vietnam. that wouldn't be sand because that is a different part of the -- >> mud. >> stephanie: in the jungle mud. >> there are surf scenes in the apocalypse. get out your surfboards and go surfing. >> that was good. [ applause ] >> that's what i'm here for. >> stephanie: do far away dog for melissa.

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good god, we're having coffee with carlos and hot brie on the side. quite a buffet this morning. 1-800-steph-12. the phone number. jacki schechner was just saying that she saw fruitvale station with you yesterday. starring your friend, octavia spencer. >> she also executive produced it, octavia. >> stephanie: octavia of "the help" and other fine movies. >> wonderful actor and a really terrific person. i had wanted to see it mostly because of her and i'm just so glad we went to see it. it was really upsetting and very powerful. i thought it was -- great film. wonderful acting. >> stephanie: tied in a lot of stuff from the trayvon martin. >> it did. at one point, i was crying pretty hard during the movie and jacki like touched me and afterwards, she's like were you upset because it was your friend, octavia? i said no. i really had given over to her being the character. what upset me was the reality that this is life for so many people in this country and you

know, the luck of birth is such a huge, huge determining factor on what happens in our lives and that was a heartbreak to realize that. also to remember some of the people in my life -- i've had the great opportunity to work with kids in inner city l.a. and in war zones in africa and just seeing several of them are dead. i was thinking of four in particular of kids that i've worked with who are dead. i know -- i pretty much can say pretty strongly if they were born in the situation i was born in chestnut hill in philadelphia to like white, middle class parents the way i was, they would be alive. they probably would have gone to college. all of the things that i had the opportunity to do. they had none of those chances. >> stephanie: yeah. well, i mean, that's what we were talking about with the stop and frisk earlier. carlos was late because he was stopped and frisked on the way here. [ speaking foreign language ] >> stephanie: right. but at any rate, we were saying

that all of these issue bees are coming together in terms of racial profiling, in the stop and frisk. i think even what eric holder is doing with -- talking about prison sentencing. nonviolent drug offenders, it becomes a pipeline to prison from high school when they should be in the principal's office and not in the prison system. >> it's he not working. that's the other thing. i worked on drug courts and veteran's courts and those are solutions to problems where it's not jail time. it but court accountability, it is serious and it works and it saves money and it keeps people out of jail. and there's like a 75% they're not going to return to prison once they've gone through drug courts successfully. 75%. that's huge. >> stephanie: the stop and frisk, we come from white republican people. but i mean -- honestly, chris, emotionally, we've talked about this. we don't know what it feels like -- a lot of these people that talk about the stop and

frisk law, what it feels like to walk up -- every day and be afraid you're going to get -- we had somebody call yesterday, it's happened to me -- i can't count how many times, pulled out. car. >> gabriel iglesias, world renowned, people know him. he's driving in arizona and a tour bus with this big old picture of gabriel iglesias. because of the way he looks, he's dark complected, he had to go through that. >> he's in a situation where he can get out of something like that. many people aren't. and that's the really sad thing. i think that that was what what was so heartbreaking about fruitvale station, watching it. i was watching this kid who was complicated and good and had a good heart and was really trying -- at the moment when he was trying to turn his life around in a positive way, just the cards were stacked against him doing that. it reminded me of a boy i worked

with, i think i told you this, had a really good heart. he grew up in a neighborhood in east l.a. where if you didn't join a gang, you were beaten pretty badly. he didn't really have good options other than that. and you know, he's dead. he ended up with a bullet in his back. he's dead. he's a good guy but you know, i would come into the neighborhood, he would bright of write directions for me because i stink at directions. >> stephanie: i've driven with her. i can testify. >> worse than you? >> stephanie: anybody. i spent an hour in a cul-de-sac with her once. >> my ex-husband would be like which way do you think we should go? he would go the opposite. he would say 80% of the time you're wrong. >> freeway? >> you know, he was a good guy. he took care of me. made sure i was safe in the neighborhood. he would walk me to my car and make sure i got out of there okay. he had a really good heart. he was stuck in a tough situation and it is heartbreaking that so many kids are stuck in that and that we're

creating a system that encourages them to stay stuck. that hurts all of us! and when we implement programs that are smart that eric holder is talking about and policies that are smart and that actually work, let's do that instead of saying we're tough on crime. we suck on crime. >> stephanie: you talked about community policing being a better option with getting the community more involved to break the cycle. >> that's effective. so why aren't we putting our resources, our energy, our intelligence, into those kinds of programs rather than creating this, you know, us and them thing with the police and citizens. i just think it is a bad thing. >> could i play devil's advocate and argue on behalf of some of the things larry elder says. >> uh-oh. >> when he used the excuse about not having black fathers, 75% of the kids grew up without fathers, i didn't think that

went with the trayvon martin case. but if we're going to have a multipronged approach to solving the problem, which is making the communities stronger, doing programs like you said, instead of prison, rehabilitation, i think the ability of people to take personal responsibility and meet us halfway so to speak, i can agree on things that larry elder talks about. there needs to be more accountability for staying with the family and not growing up in a single parent -- >> but if we're having a pipeline of young men going to prison, how can they stay with their family when with a program like drug court, you're returning 75% or 50% of these parents back to their children rather than putting them in -- >> stephanie: getting dangerously close to bill o'reilly territory. it is the fathers being absent, the reason trayvon martin is dead. >> i don't think that's a completely separate case. the aspect of that is that -- >> stephanie: all right. >> you're making my point for me.

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>> announcer: stephanie miller. >> now i shall end your oppressive reign of matriarchal activity. >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 34 minutes after the hour. doing the backstroke in coffee with carlos and hot brie on the side. activist, melissa fitzgerald. we were having a lively debate. you're not allowed to say anything unless it is on my show, damn it. >> no, i don't always agree with someone like larry elder. he does have a story. did he grow up with people who got into gangs and things like that and got killed. i just want to listen to the

story about how he was able to overcome it. it is not possible for everyone but it is important information for people to hear. >> i totally agree. i think we also have to start using things that work policywise, punishmentwise, in every way and if we're just having a pipeline and throwing these young people in prison and we're throwing young people in prison, if you're smoking pot, you know and you're white in my neighborhood, the chance of you getting stop and frisked and caught are way lower than if you're in east l.a. doing it. that's not fair. the cards are stacked against them. of course, you'll have more people from those economic and you know, areas in prison. yeah, you're going to have less money at home. >> stop and frisk wall street. >> yes. >> stephanie: i agree with you because you're one of my best friends and i agree with you because larry elder used to give us his sound bytes when he worked together. he was a scholar and a gentleman. [ ♪ magic wand ]

>> off the air, he was a great guy. >> stephanie: he was wonderful. >> i've listened to larry elder a lot. i think he has a lot of valuable things to say. i disagree with him often but i agree with him sometimes. i'm touting out drug courts. i think it is an example of something that works. i had asked my dad before i went to -- >> stephanie: who is a judge. >> who is a judge. and a phenomenal judge. and someone i respect tremendously. and you know, i asked him before i went to do something for drug court, what do you think about drug courts, dad? he said melissa, anyone who knows anything about drug courts is for drug courts. then did i my homework and research and i talked to a ton of judges and a ton of people who had been through drug courts and they work. if you're reducing recidivism rates by well over 50%, close to 75% and you're returning parents to be parents, fathers to be parents to their children rather than putting kids in the foster care system, society benefits

plus there is a savings for every dollar invested in drug courts. i think we save $7. that's a pretty darn good return on investment. >> stephanie: did you always agree with how your dad adjudicated? >> no. that's why i didn't tell him hardly anything. [ laughter ] tough on me. >> stephanie: all right. let's reset for a minute because melissa fitzgerald went to see "fruitvale station" with jacki schechner yesterday. that stars your friend, octavia spencer. who i met, your other friend, allison janney. i want to drop as many names as i possibly could. [crashing sounds] >> stephanie: it is a great film and you cried during it. it brought up trayvon martin, racial profiling. >> stop and frisk. >> in this case, was there racial profiling in the sense those were the people that were fighting? >> the cops didn't see that when they came in to bust them and there was like a white woman standing there and her boyfriend

and i don't -- you know, she was -- she videotaped the whole thing actually. i'm not saying the specifics of that case because i don't know what they are. i saw the movie and you know, i'm sure there was some taken. i don't know if there was. what i'm saying is it brings up the larger issue that if that young man, if oscar grant had been born in my neighborhood, i'm sure he would have had the opportunity to go to college. frankly, every single person in my class that graduated from my high school went to college. is that because we're all smarter than everybody else in l.a. where the graduation rate is something like 50% from high school? no. >> stephanie: you talked about you did voices in harmony here and in l.a. and over to uganda. you had friends from mexico and brought their kids here for a better life. two out of three of them are dead. one is dead because of poor healthcare. she went in for -- she was a lovely, lovely child. and she went in because her

ankle hurt. she was having trouble breathing. instead of doing an x-ray because of the cost, the health center said you have a sprained ankle. she had a blood clot and she died. >> couldn't afford an mri obviously. >> stephanie: if that were you going into cedars-sinai -- >> i would have expected an mri or an x-ray. maybe that's white privilege. i don't know what that is but i would have expected to get it. i think that the doctors would have expected me to expect to get it and i had the healthcare coverage to get it. and it just -- i could be wrong about this but i feel like if she did that, where i grew up and had my healthcare, i wonder would she be dead as a 15-year-old little girl? i don't think so. >> stephanie: you'll be interested to know what the stunning steve king's latest thoughts are on -- speaking at his anti-immigration reform rally. there were three people there. just a guy videotaping. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] virginia over the weekend, iowa congressman steve king warned

immigrants come from inherently violent cultures, adversely affect u.s. crime rates. >> our national anthem is about blowing bombs up in the air. >> stephanie: didn't you bring people from a violent civilization into a less violent civilization, you'll have more violence. he said it is like pouring hot water into cold water, does it raise the temperature or not? ♪ you are an idiot, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ♪ >> stephanie: his recent thoughts on global warming is you can't measure the sea levels. yes, you can, you dope! >> the union of concerned scientists nobel prize winners. no one listen to steve king. >> stephanie: it's all right. by the way, i know this will come as a shock to everybody but i feel like hillary clinton might run for president. [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ] >> really? >> no way! >> yes. >> stephanie: i don't know why she could be concerned about an

assault on voting rights. but she was. she spoke about it yesterday. >> legislators in north carolina have pushed through a bill that reads like the greatest hits of voter suppression. restricted early voting, no more same-day registration, extending voting hours to accommodate long lines, stricter photo i.d. requirements that disqualify those issued by colleges or public assistance agencies and it goes on and on. >> stephanie: you know, for saying we're in a post-racial society after president obama was elected, there is a lot of -- look at all of the issues we're talking about right now. stop and frisk. >> we're not poking the hornet's nest. >> what went on in north carolina is draconian. it hit every single voter suppression -- >> it was the greatest hits. it was. you look at it and you can say look, is there racial component? there's a republican versus democrat component because young

voters are hit. you can't use student i.d.s. you can't -- you know, come on. come on! >> stephanie: hillary clinton again yesterday. >> anyone who says that racial discrimination is no longer a problem in american elections must not be paying attention. discrepancies in resources across precincts and polling stations still disproportionately impact african-americans, latino and young voters. >> stephanie: carlos, it seems like they're out of idea on every issue, they're not in touch with the american people. that's how it seems like all we're left with is -- how do we get people to vote. >> they're brilliant because they know the older generation is the one holding on to the antiquated ideas. the newer generation is totally pro gay marriage and progressive issues so the way to stop it is to keep it from voting. that's a brilliant attack. it is horribly evil but it is very smart. >> also very smart short term. long-term, it is dumb, dumb, dumb. >> stephanie: they're losing old white people.

>> no. >> uh-oh. >> stephanie: if you've lost angry old white people. >> they're starting to hit hillary to been being don't old to run for president. >> that's a loser! >> i do have a problem she voted for the iraq war. >> i agree with you. that was a problem for me last time around. last time around it was a problem for me. but she has -- you know, i think -- certainly i'm going to support her absolutely. if she runs. that was a problem for me. >> little bit. >> little bit. >> i'm over it. she's done so much good. and she's really been incredible. >> she was an awesome secretary of state. >> stephanie: we were talking about an article recently that while the republican party clearly has moved farther to the right, i think the democratic party has moved farther to the left and i think in a lot of issues i agree on. it could be a problem for her, you're right. somebody was saying if she has a problem, it may be on the left.

>> it is weird how the right to vote is a left issue. that should be a country issue. people should be allowed to vote as they have for many, many, many years. >> i agree. >> stephanie: governor pat mccrory which i think barbara walters would have a hard time saying. >> protecting the integrity of every vote cast is among the important duties i have as governor. >> stephanie: yeah, governor there in north carolina. here he is one more time. talking about voting rights. >> it is common sense legislation which i think there's been a quite political overreaction on the left. in response. >> stephanie: we always get so excited and emotional about people voting. being able to vote. >> so funny we all stand up for that and say it is so important elsewhere but what about here at home in the united states of america? old women in florida shouldn't have to stand in line for six, seven, eight hours and 90-year-old woman should not have to do that in the united states of america. it happened last time and it's going to happen more this time. [ ♪ battle hymn of republic ] that's wrong. that's not the country i want to live in. and it is the country that i

want to turn this around in. and i think we can. i would love to see republicans -- the music is making me laugh, i would love to see republicans actually come up with ideas that attract voters rather than try to keep voters out from investigate and exercising their right as americans. >> stephanie: melissa fitzgerald for congress, ladies and gentlemen. let's skip congress. for president! >> the concern after the black guy got elected twice. where was this 15 years ago when the republicans were in office? everything is as it should be. >> there is an older african-american woman in north carolina who does not have a birth certificate. because she was born at home. in a rural area. she can't get government i.d. >> catch-22. >> that's disgraceful. what's more american than that woman. she should get to vote. [ ♪ battle hymn of republic ] >> she can join the nra and get a gun. >> stephanie: it is un-american to be uneligible to

vote. >> she's voted in every election since the '50s. >> if she can't vote, i would like to get her name and follow her. good for her. >> stephanie: i think captain america's underpants have just exploded with patriotism. back with the remaining moments of coffee with carlos and hot brie on "the stephanie miller show." >> coming up after this commercial, i'll be talking even louder! >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

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about your lake water. very dangerous. >> stephanie: land o lakes. not the butter. the state. my point is -- what was i going to say? carlos is also the scene-stealer according to the l.a. times in "planes." here he is now to sing the love song to melissa fitzgerald. ♪ i'm just a love machine ♪ and i won't work for nobody but you ♪ but i don't sing in the film. i sing it here live for you. don't want to scare the kids. read the credits. >> so beautiful. >> stephanie: christine in cleveland. you're on with carlos and hot brie. hello, christine. >> caller: good morning. >> stephanie: good morning. >> caller: you guys got a people taco going on there. the brie cheese, the carlos salsa. you as the little soft shell that holds it all together. >> she's a hard shell. >> stephanie: shut up! >> you're firm because of all of

your exercising. >> caller: oh, this is true. >> stephanie: i will punch you. >> caller: hard, soft. let's not do that. you were talking about the stop and frisk. >> stephanie: yes. >> caller: stop and frisk wall street. they could shut down the cocaine there. you were talking about that. er the party of no. no way, no how, no anything. and the g.o.p. doesn't really want to take us back to the 1950s. people want to talk about the g.o.p. taking us back to the 1950s. no, they want to take us back to the 1850s. i was loving what -- listen to me, hot brie was saying. i mean, is she running for congress by the way? >> stephanie: you know what? you never know. >> caller: you never know. >> stephanie: she might. >> i'm not right now, no. i'm supporting other people in running but i'm not right now. >> caller: you know, being the jockstrap for those who need to get out there is a good thing.

it is a good idea. >> i never thought of myself that way. >> stephanie: wow. >> be an athletic supporter. >> stephanie: thank you. hello. welcome rydell high. [ laughter ] not often i bust out my hardin impression. >> stephanie: victoria in north carolina. you're on "the stephanie miller show." welcome. >> caller: great show. i love your show. the lady who called up and said if you go online, it is your own fault. if you're scrutinized and you stephanie, said i gave up my rights years ago. my human rights to amazon.com. >> stephanie: not my human rights. my civil liberties. are you drunk, victoria? because if you are, i love you. >> caller: i feel drunk, i tell you. nervous is what it is. >> stephanie: that's all right same thing used for women who wear short skirts and they should be raped. that's the way it is.

if they walk around like that, tough bananas. when are we going to start talking about how tax dollars, millions go to using animals and experiments that torture them, torture them all the time when there are so many alternatives that are so much better. >> stephanie: that's why i'm for that big gross-looking hamburger. i hope they perfect it. but it would end animal cruelty. >> yeah but it tastes like ground up octopus. >> stephanie: right now it does. give it is a second. >> it is not going to get better with age. >> stephanie: so do most things i cook. >> veggie burgers are really good. some of them are really good. they did a blind taste test on people and they actually preferred veggie burgers, most people like a barbecue setting. i put so much ketchup and mustard on mine, i can't taste it anyways. >> if you put cheese on it, is it a veggie burger? >> it is just not a vegan burger. >> cheeses. >> stephanie: ron in jersey, real quick.

hey, ron. >> before i make my point, melissa, i was surprised to hear you lived in chestnut hill. i'm from south philly. if gangsters have been stop and frisked, it was us guys but we got away with it. we were white. my main point is all of the stuff a about secrecy. in world war ii, i'm sort of a world war ii buff, d-day was like the most important thing and the whole thing was based on secrecy on -- >> stephanie: thank you. someone made this point before about edward snowden. i would watch the beach in normandy if i were you. [ buzzer ] >> i wouldn't be sunbathing. >> stephanie: all right. after kony is the fabulous documentary by melissa fitzgerald. >> afterkonythemovie.com. >> stephanie: thank you, carlos for filling in. we'll see you tomorrow on "the stephanie miller show." ç]

>> first, gonna do a character, who, uh, you could probably see anywhere. just a loud, rude, obnoxious character you could see-- you could put him in any situation. let's just say, uh, uh, a delicatessen, here i new york. just a loud, obnoxious guy. and here we go. how ya doin'? let me get the, uh-- what's the special today? what's the specials? gimme a ham and cheese. $2.99. $2.99. >> that's awesome, man. >> how much is it? shut up. call me too dumb. you're blowing' each other. gimme a drink. >> oh, this is brutal! >> yeah. >> well, i was cut out, the entire first show, of saturday night live. i bring my dad, who is affected by nothin'. i go "dad, com here, i want you to meet the producer