from from this is in this in call mish first it all felt a bit strange to mention this but it's what happened is indeed a human rights violation. so in that sense i can make a connection to. that's is part of what led me to this job via the career or my own experiences with anti-semitism. lightfoot's. it's the day after germany's federal elections the far right a.f.d.

party will send more the ninety delegates to the bundestag the german parliament. after the results were released immediately posted an article on the n.g.o.s social media platforms denouncing the politics of hate what does he think about the election results. if in this media this i find it disgusting to be forced to watch child politicians who are openly hostile to jews for more whole families and a phobic and racist have been voted in the parliament in such large numbers of its parliament to be avoidance and. human rights watch wants to make sure that the topic of anti semitism is taken more seriously by the next german government. patrick ziegler is director of the and frank center in berlin he is also one of the authors of a report on anti semitism submitted by a commission of experts to the german parliament in march twenty seventeen i think

the difference. is face an example start thinking but again before this big the german government is still lacking an overall strategy that now that's why our central command has to be just as we need an anti semitism represented as it's about who will assume this coordinating role. for so long even. more than six months have passed since the house keys withdrew their son oscar from his fried now district school out of fear for his safety they've heard nothing more from the administration since then. by coincidence gemma bumps into district councillor or khan. to me or. the many housekeepers had met with him back when oscar was being attacked and. it's against the law it has happened so i heard you know because those events the antidiscrimination representative at the berlin school authority program and spent

weeks at the school giving workshops talking about empowerment and raising awareness about discrimination. even today gemma can't understand why the school failed to take such action while her son was still a student there. the mccaskey family is still left with the sense that the administration did not want to admit to or confront the anti-semitic attacks that were happening at their school today the family is trying to look toward the future oscar is now at a new school and says he's happy there on the u. disha i've met other jewish parents especially jewish mothers whose children have had similar experiences that's given me a feeling of solidarity. but perhaps that in media something in me is a change of heart. comes to how i feel about myself again my whole in my view this lack of solidarity and compassion the refusal to confront the situation is

inexcusable. if in the news just hold up on this oscar what i think is good is that oscar spoke out and said something should be complete even though it led to these terrible problems in the end the students were forced to leave with that unit charles nelson and. munition could even though i know these issues even if just one of the students was anti semitic up yes but has now changed their mind is it not then in that sense you could say something positive does come out of it that done this is indeed is neutral enough for. that was the documentary because your original. point from berlin was at the time

to school because of his jewish heritage. now journalists discuss the issue on quadriga living in fear how anti semitic is germany. international talk show. quadriga next on d w. dylan rather than to the tronic celebrates twenty five years together with this new album titled dylan engines cuts or infinity. in twelve tracks which says that most everything used to be best for. the explorer in sixty minutes total. fake hair and real story. where i come from

a lot of women like have fake hair sometimes the hair style takes up to two a day. it's a lot of time that needs to be filled so people at the salon happening in their lives. i became a journalist to be a storyteller and i always want to find those real authentic stories from everyday people who have something to share. with all the drama of the salon i already hear when i see ads and a good story when i hear it. my name is elizabeth and i work at. hello and welcome to quadriga this saturday is international holocaust remembrance day the murder of more than six million jews by the nazi regime is

a defining fact of germany's post-war identity and the country has worked to confront it yet anti-semitic attacks are on the rise in germany the political dissent of the right wing nationalist party now represented in parliament is provoking deep concern among germans and in jewish communities so too is the recent influx of muslim immigrants a recent study by the american jewish committee documents widespread anti-semitism amongst them in one widely reported incident last year a jewish pupil the grandson of holocaust survivors quit his berlin high school after suffering mobbing and abuse at the hands of arab and turkish classmates living in fear how anti-semitic is germany that's our topic this week on quadriga and here are our guests it's a pleasure to welcome kristen hell back she's a freelance journalist who recently wrote a book about syrian refugees in germany and the fears and prejudices they evoke she

says germany needs a more inclusive no more. culture and more backbone in the fight against all forms of marginalization and we're very pleased to have alan posner on the show once again he's a commentator for the daily newspaper he says jews everywhere are held responsible for every real or imagined injustice perpetrated by israel and finally very glad to welcome them so mikulski to the show he's the director of human rights watch and he has experienced the problem we're talking about the first time around he says anti-semitism in germany is escalating and increasingly normalized and the state is responding too slowly. it was indeed your son who suffered the abuse that i referred to at the opening of the show would you tell us a little bit about what happened there. yeah he was new at the school and at the

end of the first week a teacher asked what kind of world religions do you guys know and what kind of houses of worship so the students. mosque and then it was my son's turn and he said synagogue and teach us are you jewish and he said yes and that is when everything started the tech started and what exactly was everything. started with verbal abuse and bullying and then also physical attacks he was beaten very badly shows hands other students at this and he was also there was a mock execution and that was the point when we took him out of the school roughly three months later other students according to many newspaper reports especially arab and turkish fellow students is that correct in this case it is correct mostly turkish and also arabs and he was not the only one who was bullied kurdish black

gay students and girls were also. badly abused and the school did nothing but in his case because it was jews who were extreme it was even worse because they didn't beat up other kids now your opening statement indicates that you definitely don't see this as an isolated phenomenon and yet the government's anti-semitism report. more or less quoting here comes to the conclusion that in comparison with any other time before world war two or thereafter open anti-semitism has rarely been less tolerated by the broad majority of society than today so how do you reconcile that statement with what your child experienced well firstly we germans have learned how to oncet questions about and to semitism no germ. i would say i'm an semitic or i hate jews so people find they learned in rituals in remembrance day and all this how

to how to answer these questions so they don't appear and to semitic they are i mean the fact that the. management of the school the mosque didn't do anything to protect my son even off the we asked him again and again shows. a pretty big resentment against jews because otherwise this person would have been a lump or the whole school or in fact also the police people who were politically responsible for the school and we have learned from other people from other schools often claim and unfortunate got munich and so forth similar incidents because not all people because in public now people come out and talk about it. the same report that i just quoted from the german government although it admits that attitude or says the attitudes of months the broader majority haven't changed it does admit

that there is increased anti-semitic activity in the words of the report in terms of propaganda verbal and physical abuse so what exactly is going on there are we seeing a minority on the margins of society that feels increasingly empowered to act out. big ears that. this is you know and this image isn't the marty factorial thing i mean stupid to say that but it's true their . use of if you like traditional real anti semites who somehow may feel emboldened by the internet from social media then the new and to some might say call themselves anti globalists who are situated within these so-called alternative for germany this new party to never say they're against jews but it's always the east coast the capitalists and then it's goldman sachs or whatever and somehow it all boils down to the old enemy and then there is something

which is on the left and in muslim muslim community which is designed ism and ever since nine hundred sixty seven you know the sixty eight as my generation they were so proud they said well we confronted our parents about what they did in the nazi past that is true up to a point but then they turned around and supported arab terrorism against israel they wrote you know the the red army faction actually trained in palestinian terror camps and so on and since then it's sort of a given if you're on the left that you're critical of israel there's you know there's no accept the fact that israel is the only democracy that gays lesbians and so on queers. transgender people you know it's and so this all comes together these three aspects christian however would you agree are we seeing a rise in intolerance generally and particular in. i think what has really

changed is that the clients in germany of public discussion of private discussions a lot of things are being set that would have been impossible ten years ago fifteen years ago and this doesn't go only for anti jewish resentments but it goes for anything that is considered different that is considered alien to german somehow. we have this growing fear sentiment of everything should stay as it is germans are one nation and they look like this and they act like this whoever comes here has to be act like this and to this kind of assimilation so it goes not only against jews who goes especially against muslims right now this is like if you read sometimes texts of knowledge days if you replaced word muslim with jewish it gets really frightening to me you know we have this kind of stigmatization that always is the beginning of further development to more violent reactions towards minorities the

stigmatization of my own minorities this is a big problem inside germany i want to talk about what effects that changing climate has and we have a short film about that in recent years berlin has actually seen something of a rebirth of jewish life but could this increasingly be perceived as a less than welcoming place we can listen now to the voices of benson the shas these children interviewed for a film called because you're a jew they were showing you. i always felt it was better not to say i'm jewish. really yeah i don't see it that way yeah oh yeah i hardly told anyone not at university either. and i don't keep quiet about it because to me that would feel like it's something i should be ashamed about it was even if that's not how it is for usually i think they were secretly an assist you know i'm jewish. people don't my kitchen discuss

their problem this is the image my being. has the modeling experience that your son went through changed the children's attitude and if you look toward the young israelis who in the past years have been coming to berlin with great alacrity would you say to those thinking about becoming better stay away no i wouldn't say better stay away but i would say brace yourself be aware. to what kind of city and what kind of country you're coming to and look really carefully which area you want to live but i think most israelis are coming to germany are wealthy sayings i can't imagine anybody from all countries in the world that i want to resettle to germany that they haven't thought about that but in your own kids have their attitudes changed. i don't think their attitudes have

changed because they were always aware of this my daughter we have seen says iraq a high being jewish she's studying in england and england especially at the universities there is a very lively and to some it isn't at the moment and my son studies in the us and there's not such a big profitable that this image is so they see it from their own point of view but it has changed my son my wife and me and my parents ferry much we see. this country now with different us your parents of course being holocaust survivors yes alan posner let's talk about the link which you mentioned between criticism of israel and anti-semitism where and when does the one begin to shade into the other and would you say given germany's crimes that german simply should refrain from criticizing israel altogether oh of course not. look israel is

a country like every other so it's a country which makes mistakes maybe even commits crimes. and these can be criticize the thing is there's a there's a word in germany called is fair critique one word right which means criticism of israel there's not no such thing as shall we say critic or french marketing you know it's only at the jewish state and a state which declares itself jewish and if you ask where does it shade over there's a very clear definition which has been accepted by the european committee european community and by the german government and this is it's the three d's demonization deal of the demise asian and double standards if you hold israel to a higher standard than you would another country in that critical security situation if you demonize israel as being some kind of apartheid state if you did

it just in my eyes that by saying you know we're going to boycott academics from your country which you don't do with regard to china or russia or other countries this is where israel could take becomes anti semitism obviously. criticism of israel was much in evidence at a demonstration in december that was amongst the incidents fueling fear of a rise in anti-semitism in germany let's take a look. at a demonstration that took place in berlin after donald trump's announcement that the u.s. would move its embassy to jerusalem pro palestinian demonstrators chanted death to israel and burned israeli flags. now christian helberg at those proper protest cameras did capture young men of arab origin sitting on each other's shoulders and shouting and shouting a recent report from the american jewish committee i mentioned it briefly earlier document some pretty egregious

expressions of anti-semitism among arab immigrants in germany so your opening statement says that backbone is needed but what kind of backbone is needed here in this case are arab immigrants who've come in the past couple of years part of the reason we're seeing this trend to greater intolerance there's a big problem of. among arabs or took youngsters i fully agree but we have to make an important difference between people who were born here a second or third generation young people will race to you who went to german schools and who should have known some political rules and some self understandings of germans not only concerning and to so much to see but what is written in the very german constitution that nobody should be a privileged or should be. neglected for his religious. for his religion or ethnic. background so the other story is refugees who

have come here during the past two years for example from syria in syria there is a political problem with israel is until now. occupying the syrian golan heights so syrians have learned all their lives that israel is the enemy and that it should be fought against so this is the narrative that these young people come to germany with and this cannot be changed easily in some integration course this needs time and they have other problems when they come here because there's a lot of problems about integration and finding work in the in the language but what really really is a big problem for me is when people who grew up here and have went to german schools still have this n.t. so it is a mythic but come and t. muslim n.t. against everything that is considered to be. different that is a big problem for me and there we have fate and we have a structural problem problem inside germany among germans or original by you will

be will germans and people with migration background and we have to confront this by different means maybe as well by a different culture of remembrances of the holocaust i want to come in just a moment to the culture of remembrance but let me just ask you would you say that america is open door policy has in fact paved the way for this rise in anti-semitism and have we in a way imported the middle east conflict right here into the heart of germany well. first question i would say not all the people we've seen here demonstrating mostly people who came here a long time ago politicize the activists hamas is behind those people we see them to regular basis on anti israeli demonstrations here in berlin and i mean you know we have to grow up that these people are here in germany and we have to

deal with this. but what we haven't dealt with is. actually in schools educating. young. muslims in a smart way how them and muslims and. muslims and mostly those are german muslims too to see this i mean most of us is because they were born already in from to have so the call of some conservative. party members here in germany to expel all foreign muslims is very shortsighted because it puts the finger only on a certain group which we have to deal with of course but which does not represent all the muslims in germany. also this is the effort to educate has of course been part of an effort here in germany to come to terms to confront the crime of the

holocaust there is even a special word for it forgotten heights but then take on confrontation with the past and one example of that forgotten event to go is the culture of remembrance including a monument that remembers the holocaust just a few kilometers from here. the memorial to the murdered jews of europe it took a good twenty five years for the plans to be brought to completion. its location in berlin's government district is perhaps the most visible indication of germany's intent to face up to its history. unobtrusive in contrast are what are called stumbling stone they reflect the everyday horrors of the nazi era and commemorate jews who were deported murdered or driven out tens of thousands have been placed all across germany and europe making them the world's largest decentralized memorial. and then there are the places of horror themselves such as auschwitz

today it's a memorial site that makes the nazis machine of genocidal destruction tangible to visitors what is the right form of remembrance. posner the former german president. said to two years ago there is no german identity without auschwitz remembering the holocaust remains a concern for all citizens who live in germany but can we really expect migrants to germany to share that view and also perhaps very young germans who say hey that's a go. well there's just two aspects to this. the first aspect is this is not a german question the holocaust was and remains. something that could that is that is important for every person everywhere in the world whether you're examine whether you're a jew whether you're a german jew whether your german muslim whether you're an american if they have a holocaust memorial in washington d.c.

why they have a heart of caused a museum in los angeles why because this is something which we all need to think about so it's not a question of can we expect my grandchildren to take responsibility given that you know that the great grandfather was a jews because we can can reach that young muslims of course we can't because every human being needs to understand that this kind you know this crime i'm from france isn't the same color first it all felt a bit strange. but it's what happened isn't turning into a human rights violation kind of. sense i can make a connection. the thief is part of what led me to this. career or my own experiences with anti-semitism. lightfoot's. it's the day after germany's federal elections the far right a.f.d.

party will send more the ninety delegates to the bundestag the german parliament. after the results were released immediately posted an article on the n.g.o.s social media platforms denouncing the politics of hate what does he think about the election results. if in this media this i find it disgusting to be forced to watch child politicians or openly hostile to jews from or a whole families and a phobic and racist have been voted in the parliament in such large numbers of its parliament to be avoidance and. human rights watch wants to make sure that the topic of anti semitism is taken more seriously by the next german government. patrick ziegler is director of the and frank center in berlin he is also one of the authors of a report on anti semitism submitted by a commission of experts to the german parliament in march twenty seventeen i think

the difference would as fêtes an example start thinking that a given for this big the german government is still lacking in overall strategy and that now that's why our central command has to be dismissed we need an anti semitism represented as it's about who will assume this coordinating role. for so long even. more than six months have passed since the mccoskey s. withdrew their son oscar from his fried now district school out of fear for his safety they've heard nothing more from the administration since then. by coincidence gemma bumps into district councillor or khan. tamir. the maha muskies had met with him back when oscar was being attacked and. that's against the law it has happened so i heard you know those events the antidiscrimination representative at the berlin school authority program and spent weeks at the school

giving workshops talking about empowerment and raising awareness about discrimination. even today gemma can't understand why the school failed to take such action while her son was still a student there. the mccaskey family is still left with the sense that the administration did not want to admit to or confront the anti-semitic attacks that were happening at their school today the family is trying to look toward the future oscar is now at a new school and says he's happy they're under you disha met other jewish parents especially jewish mothers whose children have had similar experiences that's given me a feeling of solidarity. that's perhaps that in media something in me is changed. comes to how i feel about my city and my whole in my view this lack of solidarity and compassion the refusal to

confront the situation is inexcusable. if in the news just toes up on this oscar what i think is good is that oscar spoke out and said something should be complete even though it led to these terrible problems in the end the students were forced to leave with that unit charles nelson and. mit and munition couldn't even though i know jesus even if just one of the students was anti semitic up yes but has now changed their mind is it not then in that sense you could say something positive has come out of it that had done this is indeed is neutral enough for them. that was the documentary because your original. point was full of good and

attempted school because of his jewish heritage. now journalist discuss the issue on quadriga living in fear how anti semitic is germany. international talk show. quadriga next on d w. jim and rather than tell the tronic celebrates twenty five years together with this new album titled the engines cuts for instance in the lead. in twelve tracks which says that most everything used to be best in. the uk explored in sixty minutes on the w.b. . fake hair and real story. where i come from

a lot of women like me have fake hair sometimes a hairstyle takes up to two. it's a lot of time that needs to be filled so people talk about what's happening in their lives. i became a journalist to be a storyteller and i always want to find those real authentic stories from everyday people who have something to share. with all the drama of the salon i already hear when i see ads and a good story when i hear it. my name is elizabeth and i work at. hello and welcome to quadriga this saturday is international holocaust remembrance day the murder of more than six million jews by the nazi regime is

a defining fact of germany's post-war identity and the country has worked to confront it yet anti-semitic attacks are on the rise in germany the political dissent of the right wing nationalist party now represented in parliament is provoking deep concern among germans and in jewish communities so too is the recent influx of muslim immigrants a recent study by the american jewish committee documents widespread anti-semitism amongst them in one widely reported incident last year a jewish pupil the grandson of holocaust survivors quit his berlin high school after suffering mobbing and abuse at the hands of arab and turkish classmates living in fear how anti-semitic is germany that's our topic this week on quadriga and here are our casts it's a pleasure to welcome kristen held back she's a freelance journalist who recently wrote a book about syrian refugees in germany and the fears and prejudices they evoke she

says germany needs a more inclusive no more. of culture and more backbone in the fight against all forms of marginalization and we're very pleased to have alan posner on the show once again he's a commentator for the daily newspaper devoted he says jews everywhere are held responsible for every real or imagined injustice perpetrated by israel and finally very glad to welcome them so mikulski to the show he's the director of human rights watch and he has experienced the problem we're talking about first hand he says anti-semitism in germany is escalating and increasingly normalized and the state is responding to slovenia. hamish asking if it was indeed your son who suffered the abuse that i referred to at the opening of the show would you tell us a little bit about what happened there. yeah he was new at the school and at the

end of the first week teach oscar what kind of walled religions do you guys know and what kind of houses of worship so the students. mosque and it was my son's turn and he said cynical to teach us are you jewish and he said yes and that is when everything started the tech started and what exactly was everything. started with verbal abuse and bullying and then also physical attacks he was beaten very badly hands of the students at this and he was also there was a mock execution and that was the point when we took him out of the school roughly three months later other students according to many newspaper reports especially arab and turkish fellow students is that correct in this case it is correct mostly turkish also arabs and he was not the only one who was bullied kurdish black

gay students and girls well also. badly abused and the school did nothing but in this case because it was jews it was extreme it was even worse because they didn't beat up other kids now your opening statement indicates that you definitely don't see this as an isolated phenomenon and yet the government's anti-semitism report. more or less quoting here comes to the conclusion that in comparison with any other time before world war two or thereafter open anti-semitism has rarely been less tolerated by the broad majority of society than today so how do you reconcile that statement with what your child experienced well firstly we germans have learned how to oncet questions about and to semitism no german would say i'm an semitic or i hate jews so people find their learned in rituals in remembrance day and all this how

to how to answer these questions so they don't appear and to semitic they are i mean the fact that the. management of the school the mosque didn't do anything to protect my son even off that we asked him again and again shows. a pretty big resentment against jews because otherwise this person would have been a lump or the whole school or in fact also the police people who were politically responsible for the school and we have learned from other people from other schools often claim unfun foot munich and so forth similar incidents because not all people because in public now people come out and talk about it. the same report that i just quoted from the german government although it admits that attitude or says the attitudes of months the problem jordi haven't changed it does admit that

there is increased anti-semitic activity in the words of their. report in terms of propaganda verbal and physical abuse so what exactly is going on there are we seeing a minority on the margins of society that feels increasingly empowered to act out. there is that. this is you know anderson it isn't the marty factorial thing i mean it's stupid to say that but it's true their. use of if you like traditional real anti semites who somehow may feel emboldened by the internet from social media then the new and to some might say call themselves anti globalists who. situated within these so-called alternative for germany this new party to never say they're against jews but it's always the east coast the capitalists and then it's goldman sachs or whatever and somehow it all boils down to the old enemy and then there is something

which is on the left and in monk muslim muslim community which is designed ism and ever since nine hundred sixty seven you know the sixty eight as my generation they were so proud they said well we confronted our parents about what they did in a nazi past that is true up to a point but then they turned around and supported arab terrorism against israel they wrote you know the the red army faction actually trained in palestinian terror camps and so on and since then it's sort of a given if you're on the left that you're critical of israel you know there's you know there's no accept the fact that israel is the only democracy that gays lesbians and so on queers. transgender people you know it's and so this all comes together these three aspects christian however would you agree are we seeing a rise in intolerance generally and particular in. i think what has really

changed is that the clients in germany of public discussion of private discussions a lot of things are being set that would have been impossible ten years ago fifteen years ago and this doesn't go only for anti jewish resentments but it goes for anything that is considered different that is considered any end to german somehow . we have this growing fear sentiment of everything should stay as it is germans are one nation and they look like this and they act like this whatever comes here has to be act like this and this kind of assimilation so it goes not only against jews who goes especially against muslims why not all this is like if you read sometimes texts of nowadays if you replaced were muslim with jewish it gets really frightening to me you know we have this kind of stigmatization that always is the beginning of further development to more violent reactions towards minorities the

stigmatization of my own minorities this is a big problem inside germany i want to talk about what effects that changing climate has and we have a short film about that in recent years berlin has actually seen something of a rebirth of jewish life but put it this increasingly be perceived as a less than welcoming place we can listen now to the voices of benson the shas these children interviewed for a film called because you're a jew what they were showing on t w. i always felt it was better not to say i'm jewish. really yeah i don't see it that way yeah. yeah i hardly told anyone. not at university either. and i don't keep quiet about it because to me that would feel like it's something i should be ashamed about it was not even if that's not how it is for use as if it were secret and assist i know i'm jewish. my kitchen discuss their problem this is

the image my being. has the mobbing experience that your son went through change to the children's attitude and if you look toward the young israelis who in the past years have been coming to berlin with great alacrity would you say to those thinking about coming better stay away no i wouldn't say better stay away but i would say brace yourself be aware. to what kind of city and what kind of country you're coming to and look really carefully which area you want to live but i think most israelis are coming to germany are wealthy sings a kind of met anybody from all countries in the world that want to resettle to germany that they haven't thought about that but in your own kids have their attitudes changed. i don't think their attitudes have changed because they were

always aware of this my daughter as we have seen says iraq a high being jewish she's studying in england and england especially at the universities there is a very lively and to some it isn't at the moment and my son studies in the us and there's not such a big problem with that system it is so they see it from their own point of view but it has changed my son my wife and me and my parents ferry much we see this country now with different us your cat parents of course being holocaust survivors yes alan posner let's talk about the link which you mentioned between criticism of israel and anti-semitism where and when does the one begin to shade into the other and would you say given germany's crimes that german simply should refrain from criticizing israel altogether oh of course not. israel is

a country like every other so it's a country which makes mistakes maybe. commits crimes. and these can be criticize the thing is there's a there's a word in germany called is fair critic one word right it's means criticism of israel there's not no such thing as shall we say critic or. if it's only at the jewish state and a state which declares itself jewish and if you ask where does it shade over there's a very clear definition which has been accepted by the european committee european community and by the german government and this is it's the three d's demonization deal at your demise ation and double standards if you hold israel to a higher standard than you would another country in that critical security situation if you demonize israel as being some kind of apartheid state if you did

it just in my eyes it by saying you know we're going to boycott academics from your country which you don't do with regard to china or russia or other countries this is where israel kotick becomes anti semitism obviously. criticism of israel was much in evidence at a demonstration in december that was amongst the incidents fueling fear of a rise in anti-semitism in germany let's take a look. at a demonstration that took place in berlin after donald trump's announcement that the u.s. would move its embassy to jerusalem pro palestinian demonstrators chanted death to israel and burned israeli flags. now christian helberg at those proper protest cameras did capture young men of arab origin sitting on each other's shoulders and shouting and shouting a recent report from the american jewish committee i mentioned it briefly earlier document some pretty egregious

expressions of anti-semitism among arab immigrants in germany so your opening statement says that backbone is needed but what kind of backbone is needed here in this case are arab immigrants who've come in the past couple of years part of the reason we're seeing this trend to greater intolerance there's a big problem of. among arabs or took youngsters i fully agree but we have to make an important difference between people who were born here a second or third generation young people will race to who went to germany schools and who should have known some political rules and some self understandings of germans not only concerning and to so much to see but what is written in the very german constitution that nobody should be a privileged or should be. neglected for his religious. for his religion or ethnic. background so the the other story is refugees who

have come here during the past two years for example from syria in syria there is a political problem with israel is until now. occupying the syrian golan heights so syrians have learned all their lives that israel is the enemy and that it should be fought against so this is the narrative that these young people come to germany with and this cannot be changed easily in some integration course this needs time and they have other problems when they come here because there is a lot of problems about integration and finding work in the in the language but what really really is a big problem for me is when people who grew up here and have went to german schools still have this empty. semitic but come and t. muslim n.t. against everything that is considered to be. different that is a big problem for me and there we have fate and we have a structural problem problem inside germany among germans or original by you will

be will germans and people with migration background and we have to confront this by different means maybe as well by a different culture of for member of the holocaust i want to come in just a moment to the culture of remembrance but let me just ask you would you say that america's open door policy has in fact paved the way for this rise in anti-semitism and have we in a way imported the middle east conflict right here into the heart of germany. well the first question i would say not all the people we've seen here demonstrating mostly people who came here a long time ago politicize the activists hamas is behind those people we see them directly or basis on anti israeli demonstrations here in berlin and i mean you know we germans have to grow up that these people are here in germany and we

have to deal with this. but what we haven't dealt with is. actually in schools educating. young. muslims in a smart way how them and muslims and. muslims and mostly those are german muslims too to see this i mean most of us is because they were born already in from to have so the call of some conservative. party members here in germany to expel all foreign muslims is very shortsighted because it puts the finger only on a certain group which we have to deal with of course but which does not represent all the muslims in germany. also this is the effort to educate has of course been part of an effort here in germany to come to terms to confront the crime of the

holocaust there is even a special word for it forgotten heights but then take on confrontation with the past and one example of that forgotten heights began to go is the culture of remembrance including a monument that remembers the holocaust just a few kilometers from here. the memorial to the murdered jews of europe it took a good twenty five years for the plans to be brought to completion. its location in berlin's government district is perhaps the most visible indication of germany's intent to face up to its history. unobtrusive in contrast are what are called stumbling stone they reflect the everyday horrors of the nazi era and commemorate jews who were deported murdered or driven out tens of thousands have been placed all across germany and europe making them the world's largest decentralized memorial. and then there are the places of horror themselves such as auschwitz

today it's a memorial site that makes the nazis machine of genocidal destruction tangible to visitors what is the right form of remembrance. posner the former german president. said to two years ago there is no german identity without auschwitz remembering the holocaust remains a concern for all citizens who live in germany but can we really expect migrants to germany to share that view and also perhaps very young germans who say hey that's a go. well there's just two aspects to this. the first aspect is this is not a german question the holocaust was and remains. something that could that is that is important for every person everywhere in the world whether you're examine whether your jew whether you're a german jew whether your german muslim whether you're an american if they have a holocaust memorial in washington d.c.

why they have a holocaust museum in los angeles why because this is something which we all need to think about so it's not a question of can we expect my grandchildren to take responsibility given that you know that the great grandfather was a jew was because we can can reach that young muslims of course we can't because every human being needs to understand that this kind you know this crime but i was sitting in my shop when there was a powerful explosion only windows shattered. the casualties a very high bodies were everywhere near the hospital and everywhere. a hospital coordinator described the attack as a massacre the blast happened on a busy street during lunch hour the area is home to several foreign embassies and government buildings this is the second major taliban attack in kabul in the past

eighty s that's despite reassurances from the government and its u.s. allies that their joint offensive against the taliban was succeeding earlier i spoke to journalists in kabul and i started by asking him how people there are coping with the situation. well people in afghanistan are shocked horrified and everyone is actually puzzled because it is not the first attack which happened in kabul over the last few days actually it is that that is one of the serious attacks which happened here full of people we talked to on social media as well everyone is really saddened criticizing a lot of people of course you know asking the government to fire some of the senior afghan officials a security officer. and speaking of the officials and calls for a firing how are the authorities in kabul dealing with the aftermath of this. well

you hear nothing actually except some very. serious remorse and a statement from both the president and oh so what they are doing is only condemning the attacks which if people believe that only want what changes in its statement is the date and the days that they told such attacks and nothing very fair use actually the afghan government normally did down the number up to date still in afghanistan but the health ministry that we spoke to just confirmed over sixty people were killed but let me remind you that the numbers are really high because the afghan government always does that in order to actually not panic people now it seems like there's been an uptick in the number of attacks happening in afghanistan lately is there any truth to that feeling and if so why is that. well there's no money because the afghan will afghans when you speak on the street

they believe that the afghan government is so much busy with petty politics and accusing the neighboring countries that they forget to enjoy the security of afghans that isn't especially in the capital kabul for example any in a few days i could say that probably is under siege but it is not only called but whole afghanistan is under siege i mean over the last few weeks here has. been a serious of attacks across the country in the north of the country for example in south yesterday was in kandahar and today as well i think in one of the thousand provinces as well so it is actually the total failure people believe it is a total failure of the afghan security forces even though the number is to money but it's because not the professional. competent people are appointed senior full so that's why i mean process also because of the you know the failure in your intelligence services even though to bring it to the audience attention that hewitt's embassy couple of days ago they issued a warning saying that there might be an attack against

a restaurant or hotel or some of the busiest places in kabul that we have been actually witnessing at least two attacks in kabul time here candiotti for us in afghanistan thank you very much for your insights. police in the german city of cologne have broken up a demonstration by kurds protesting turkey's offensive on kurdish fighters in syria authorities took the decision after protesters refused to mance to stop waving flags and showing band symbols security was tight at the protest with fears that violence could break out between kurds and turks who support the military operation the demonstration comes a week after turkish troops launched a ground an air assault against a kurdish region in northern syria turkish president everyone has criticized german authorities for allowing kurdish protests while not permitting turkish pro-government election rallies. germany's green party has elected to new

leaders so that was part of a reshuffle triggered after the failure of the party's coalition talks with chancellor angela merkel's conservative bloc and the free democrats robert how back well now ahead of the greens alongside on the babcock both belong to the greens pragmatic when breaking a tradition of electing a leftist centrist duo. and our political correspondent fabienne vandermark joins me in the studio now obvious let's start with the very basics what role does the green party play in the german political landscape we're hearing so much now about the the conservative bloc and the social democrats of where do the greens lie well the unique selling point was originally the environmental policy the fight against climate change that is still at the very core of the greens they have started in the eighty's of last century as a traditional opposition movement a grassroots social movement then became an opposition party but in the last twenty years they were again and again in power both on the federal and on the state level

and as you just mentioned they were one step away of forming a coalition with max conservatives and the liberals the so-called john mica coalition that failed and now they ended up being the smallest of all the six the four opposition parties in the german bunds talk and this new leader talking about robert habeck very simply who is this guy. the greens have very high hopes in this forty year old man he's a philosopher he's a writer of fiction and at the same time he's a minister in the state of the cause and minister for environment energy and agriculture he's a person who when you see this biography minister has no problem taking over responsibility that's why he's seen as a political realist in the pragmatic field special about him is his style he's at the one hand this intellectual person with visions about the future of labor a future of globalization energy does but the same time he's very much down to

earth you know you would never see him wear a suit he has no problem to sit down with a farmer and chat about ordinary things so a pretty interesting figure there the chairman politician not wearing a suit is definitely very unique how back and they're about both along to the centrist wing of this party this is a break from tradition as we've said they usually take someone who's very leftist what does this mean for the greens political future do they want to be a future government yes they make themselves their mind how they could end up in a government again because that is a long time ago that they were governing in germany and they don't believe that there will be in the near future as a left majority in germany social democrats are too weak so in other words their only option to get into power would be another could listen with the conservatives so they want to be prepared for that and they believe that they can better make this with this two people and then again the same time they believe the dog and the

most attractive people at the moment for the greens and being the smallest opposition party for them it will be very difficult to be visible at all in germany and they believe with these two they have something to offer. our political correspondent thank you very much for your insights. now on to some of the other stories making news around the world czech president milosevic them on has been reelected to another five year term of islamic mass migration he defeated academic year. who was seen as friendlier to brussels. saudi arabian billionaire prince ali well they've been told all has been released from detention this comes more than two months after he was confined to a luxury hotel during the kingdom's crackdown on corruption the prominent businessman was accused of money laundering bribery and extortion all of which he has denied. south korea's president has visited the scene of

a hospital fire that killed dozens and injured of more than one hundred the building in southern in the southern city of miryam caught fire on friday authorities have ordered an investigation into the cause of the blaze. today as international holocaust remembrance day marks every year on the anniversary of the liberation of the auschwitz concentration camp nazi germany murdered more than six million jews in the second world war one of those working to uphold the memory of the victims is ninety five year old survivor margit meissner in the us capital of washington. margaret meissner was born in austria seem practical so back in one thousand nine hundred thirty four the growing anti semitism in her city became more and more noticeable so margetts mother sent her to paris and joined a year later. but the influence of the nazis was soon felt in france as well. one

day margaret's mother received a letter. so i went to the police station with her and us the we're you taking her since none of your business go home and where you take your business go home so here i was burma served my mother was gone we had no money markets mother was deported two girls in terrorist camp in southern france market was eighty years old alone and had to find a way out of europe she fled paris on a bicycle at the same time her mother succeeded in escaping the internment camp by some miracle the mother and daughter found each other just twelve kilometers from get. together they made their way to spain where they found a way to travel to america but he was not to be they were picked up by the spanish police and thrown in jail. so after or this we were going to be held to the

germans in spain but you see over here so good luck good friends who helped. and they exactly three years of my brother we came to be you know that's the. ninety maggot meisner regularly tells visitors to the holocaust museum about her memories and experiences this is one of the most visited museums in the u.s. capital many people come specially to hear the sorry survivors have to tell that her generation is quickly vanishing this current of industrialization of this has never happened. so there's one refer to reasons why one should not forget that and more than the thing else were untrue. these arrows from ruby repeated. to margaret meissner these issues have gained a new sense of urgency in today's highly volatile political climate.

certainly some move. move move move so if the american government right now is very similar to wolf in germany in the nineteen twenty since the nineteenth and. the. market is determined to remain active as long as she can she's put her story into a book so that people in the world who read it and that future generations are aware of this part of history. may we never forget and moving on more to sports in tennis news caroline wozniacki has been crowned the women's australian open champion after defeating simona halep seven six three six six four in melbourne the dane lead after a nail biting first set went all the way to

a tiebreaker for holland drew level was an iraqi held her nerve however to claim the final set and a first ever planned grand slam title the men's final will be played on sunday in the bundesliga match day twenty got off to a thrilling start as i'm tough frankfurt defeated fellow european hopefuls bosio lot to nothing kevin prince boateng put the hosts ahead on the forty third minute before you got your pitch sealed to victory in injury time it was the on loans for acres third goal in as many games the wins i'm talking move up to second in the table ahead of the rest of this weekend's fixtures. you're watching news from berlin more coming up at the top of the hour and don't forget you can get all the latest news and information on our web site. thanks for joining us.

the tale of epidaurus begins like so many of the mythical stories of greece with a beautiful mortal woman and a god in love then was corrodes he was a polish god of the musicians. she bore her child a lovely uncle where epidaurus is now and she abandoned. a herd of goats gave the infant food herdsman's dog protected it through kept it one and when the goats had went looking for his goats he found the child surrounded with bright light the infant was. got of heat but although he was a god he was destined to down. zeus struck him down with

a thunderbolt because he raised the dead escapee as lives on in the sacred simple. there was a cultic site here in very any time. first a hero named money utterance was worshiped. then apollo and when the cult of asklepios spread in greece in the fifth century b.c. the son came to be worshiped alongside his father apollo and finally supplanted him apollo had been the god of all the arts including the art of healing. asklepios was the god of therapeutic healing alone in the fourth century b.c. the sanction became a pilgrim science and healing center a lot of the ancient world nowadays tourists the pilgrims of our times come here less for the remains of that sanctuary than to see the best preserved of ancient

greek theatres one of the principal tourist sites in greece and who can blame them to see in a field of stones the center of a great sanctuary requires a powerful imagination. the temple of escapist with its votive shines the abbot on the whole set apart for therapeutic sleep and the thoughts and it magic secular build. time has cost down most of the stans epidaurus was devastated by earthquakes in five twenty two and five fifty one a day. the museum conveys an impression of the sanctuary's ancient splenda the little that survives is exhibited bad.

the pilgrims of old came from the north. here in the proper lawn they entered the sacred area which was subject to its own law office in front of the century was an ancient wellspring. a water conduit and a basin where the pilgrims were expected to wash. an inscription on one stone reads you must be cleansed pure if you are to enter the incense fragrant house of the dawn.

the pilgrims waited in the problem until a group had gathered. then led by the priests of a scrappy as they proceeded down the sacred street to the central square where the temple of asklepios stood and the upper town and from us. a melancholy procession it must have been as they hobbled limped and coughed their way into the sanctions men and women young and old most of them hopeful some of them skeptical and some of them veterans of other escapee a shrines where the god had failed to cure that ill people who are now trying again in this famous place. some were supported

by companions others went in on crutches all strange. all of them had brought animals to be sacrificed. to the guy the wealthy wrote oxen the poor wrote aloud for adults. in front of the temple of the skep ias they had to wash once again and then one after another they were admitted to the priest who presided over the sacrifices they presented their animals which he slaughtered at the open air altar outside the temple the sacred right was performed by priests on an altar in the center of the square and. the pilgrims had now been received into the sanctuary they prayed in the temple and lay down to sleep in the outer.

this is all that remains of the temple of asklepios foundations walls the bases of votive shrines. fuzziness a greek writer of the second century a.d. left a description of the temple building was begun in four twenty b.c. it was in the dark style and stood three steps above ground level a little of the pediment freeness has survived the freeze may have looked like this a backing singer. and.

it. atop the temples to the statue of nike the victory goddess thanks to computer animation we can now enter a reconstruction of the temple. i am. the wooden doll was adorned with ivory and go. as was the statue of asklepios sculpted by transit medias of paros showing the god with the sacred simple and and the goat heads don't. feel.

it. let us go on from the temple to the from us. beneath this wonderful second. building there was three interlinked rings of wool spy collaboration. no one can say what purpose the building sent. some to rein in dwelling of the sacred sentence perhaps. or did the priests of the scrappiness descend with the sick into the labyrinth to the underworld and leave the nat'l discover the secret of recovery themselves. we shall never know if.

we continue from the farmhouse to the avatar if the function of the tunnel sounded some to randy and complex remains unclear the abba tongue and the cult of therapeutic sleep are profoundly mysterious. the pilgrims would reportedly see the goddess clappy as on their first night and he would explain the therapy to them. we continue from the farmhouse to the abbot if the function of the tunnel sounded sumpter randian complex remains unclear the abba tongue and the cult of therapeutic sleep are profoundly mysterious. the pilgrims would

reportedly see the goddess clappy as on their first night and he would explain the therapy to. us did they in fact see masked priests visiting the patients by night. and what part did the sacred serpents play. hello and welcome to export for your fill of all the latest and german music i'm living at and here's what's coming up. a celebrated their twenty fifth anniversary. really take a look at the german adele.