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this is you don't use life for a girl in the historic first summit between donald trump and flatterer putin the u.s. and russian the president's promise to improve ties after lengthy talks in the finnish capital helsinki the pair discussed election meddling nuclear stocks the mideast and much much more or get the details from our correspondents around the world's.
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heart thank you so much for joining us u.s. president donald trump has held his first ever summit with his russian counterpart vladimir putin at talks in the finnish capital helsinki the pair promised to improve relations between their two countries despite a number of troublesome issues well that includes allegations that russia meddled in the twenty sixteen u.s. election although putin did not add any russian interference the pair also discussed nuclear stocks syria and the mideast at large as they sought to reboot relations between washington and moscow all right let's see if they manage to do that let's go straight to helsinki our correspondent teri schultz is on the scene terry. high lay low well it remains to be seen when as president said the national security council will work out what actually was agreed here what we heard from the press conference was both president sounding very
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conciliatory toward each other president putin did not think that russia ever has or ever will meddle in us elections and president trump seeming to take him at his word he said i don't see why russia would have meddled in our elections and then went off on a long spiel about it being the d.n.c. and hillary and hillary staffers that being hillary clinton of course his opponent in the u.s. presidential elections some of the other issues that people would have liked to hear more about would have been president trump reiterating u.s. policy nato policy european policy that crimea was illegally annexed by moscow president trump did not say that and president putin use the old line that you know crimea held an election and decided to be part of russia so it now belongs to the russian federation some of the other things we didn't hear anything about were for example this group all poisoning the international community has pointed a finger at russia for this poisoning that didn't even come up of course
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journalists only got a handful of questions to both the russian and the u.s. sides so president trump came out and said you know the relationship has been bad but i think we're going to turn a corner now there's a bright future he blamed bad relations on previous administrations and said now it's time to take a new step in this relationship president putin less a few siv but no less positive about the direction that they both thought these sides should should move in there are some other things that just struck my ears for example president trump saying that the u.s. and russian military is cooperate very well there are you know nato patrols that are scrambled every few days because russian warplanes are you buzz nato air space and the u.s. is part of those patrols. i wouldn't say that it's getting along very well i think what he must've been referring to was in the airspace over syria there is a working arrangement not a partnership but by any means but sort of a mutual information line so that they can avoid collisions of airspace in syria
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and i can only imagine that's the only thing that he could have been referring to with our militaries working together of course it was the russian military that perform snap exercises on the very near the borders of the baltic states it is the russian military that nato is mobilized to counter should it cross into nato territory so that was a bit surprising but i think that a couple of the statements that will will stick with everybody as president putin saying we're going to move forward on the basis of truth not rumors and our president going right along with that yes they gave us a lot of the stuff to talk about and will do so also with our colleagues in washington as well and in moscow but before i let you go terry when these two leaders meet there's a lot of drama and build up to this meeting live up to the hype. it certainly did of course everyone outside these two leaders was worried about the
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one on one session and that's because of course there are suspicions that president trump is too friendly to president putin and holding a meeting with only interpreters would mean nobody knows what's said nobody knows what's promised nobody knows if there are any concessions made particularly on the u.s. side toward the russian side something like a promise that you know the u.s. doesn't really need to participate in nato exercises that would protect the baltic states that was one big worry also on what might happen in syria they were very worried about you know what president trump may want to walk away with some kind of victory from the russian president and what might be up for grabs for president putin in that in that situation so i think that that was the biggest drama of that meeting went on longer than scheduled two hours with just those two men in the room and we'll we'll never know exactly what was said and then of course the meeting with advisors also longer than expected we waited a long time on that picture waiting for the press conference and i think that they
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didn't disappoint i think we expected them to come out both declaring victory and i think that's exactly what we heard all right and terry that is exactly what makes this so very difficult is that there is no official record of what's been said so we just have to go by what these two leaders have said terry szell's reporting live from helsinki thank you all right let's get the view now from moscow and washington we have and we share with him the russian capital and alexander phenomenon chief of north america in washington d.c. i want to start off with you emily if i may putin said this really jumped out at me i wanted him to win that's a very frank admission and one that will play down well in the u.s. . he said that he that they had a preferred candidate but then again i think you know you have to remember that he did also very much tonight these meddling accusations he said that there was no
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proof and there were just rumors he said that that he was waiting still for an official request for information from the u.s. so and he also said that he didn't that he needed more information about the twelve russians who had been indicted last week so kind of very much brushing that off and saying that there was no official proof for it yet so i think we saw a kind of putin's traditional line there denying meddling but when it comes to meddling i think that he really got from trump an important concession in some ways today because both both trump and putin mentioned the idea of creating a working group on cybersecurity presumably this was a russian suggestion of course we won't know that but that's what i presume and trump said that that was a very interesting proposal he said it was in fact an incredible offer now that will be music to putin's ears the u.s.
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accusing russia of meddling in their internal affairs and then the u.s. president agreeing to create a working group on cyber security with russia all right to emily and i've got twenty seconds for you putin said the conditions are in place for effective cooperation in syria but these are two countries on opposite sides. in syria both sides mentioned the israeli security interests and i think what may have happened is that there may have been some kind of a tacit agreement on how to protect the israeli border israel is very much afraid of iranian troops being too close and ahead of this meeting experts had been discussing that perhaps russia could be you know an intermediate. mediator between the u.s. the between israel and iran so maybe what has just happened of course we don't know
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exactly all right alexander want to go to you because this is all where it's happening where you are because seventy two hours after the american department of justice it's used russia criminally acting against the democratic process in the u.s. the president called for closer cooperation with russia. well and from my perspective we have to say that to this summit the hells and keane has not served us interest was a full wing some of russian experts i normally talk to on twitter and they were quite outspoken about the triumphs performance of this summit saying that it was a disgrace no it's worse than an american president and we really have to say that it was unbelievable how putin was able standing next to the u.s. presidents to once again deny that russia has interfered in the you asked election although all u.s. intelligence agency are convinced that that was the case they are saying that they
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have enough evidence that that was state case and did not contradict putin instead he sort of trashed his own intelligence agencies saying that the s.e.'s he has confidence in the u.s. intelligence said that putin's denial was very paul worldful so that's really remarkable remarks from the u.s. president there xander for naaman reporting from washington d.c. and we sure were in the russian capital moscow thank you both. all right we've got lots more analysis for you where with me in the studio now is nicole ren very she is a foreign policy expert at the german council on foreign relations a very warm welcome you've been with us all day so we're very happy that you were able to stick around where does this go from here one of the interesting part about the press conference was even though both heads of state came up with a list of issues where they want to cooperate starting with the man on
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proliferation and working group to fight cyber terrorism social context they didn't have a very concrete ideas on how they want to go about it also with respect to the situation in syria they basically said we want to protect the interest of israel trump made a very strong point in this respect but again it was absolutely not clear what the concrete next steps and you're wondering where does the u.s. define its interests because it seems like there were two brothers in spirit but very little interest every bit of information on what the president read he sees as u.s. interests did you think it was more substantive as the meeting compared to the one that he had with the control room when it was a little bit more different in tone now and again with the list of issues they want to discuss further he might have outlined and wrote you know what will be the next
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you know the next points they want to discuss in the future so it was a little bit more concrete but it wasn't concrete enough after such a long meeting to really go out to the public and say this is what we agreed upon this is how the contract for a localized and she had both of them didn't deliver much but a lot of crisis do you feel that this was more of a confidence building exercise absolutely and they delivered a very strong picture of the two of them almost seemed like you know friends who have been working together for a long time trump pointed out how wonderfully the u.s. and the. russian military worked which you know comes as a surprise in many regions of the world and again the very heart issues like you know how does. the development of nato what's going on in the ukraine where points they eluded to but not in a very concrete and a very transparent way it seems that more on that side for nikolay reminded me of course of that now infamous statement that the previous presidents u.s.
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president barack obama that russia is just a regional power well they're no longer a regional power absolutely if they look at their economy they are but if you look at the inner self confidence russia has then it's definitely seen its have a power and this meeting very much helped the russian president to reach this goal to say you know i'm back at the table and i have this direct talk with the u.s. president the most powerful man in the world at this point so he had a huge gain out of this for him absolutely right. to foreign policy expert at the german council on foreign relations thank you for weighing in. all right and we've got lots more to unpack for you because of course brussels is also in the eye of the storm to correspondent is standing by get your good to see you president bush spoke about opening a new pathways to peace with russia what is the message for europe here.
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the message of nuclear disarmament and that there is a further cooperation in this field will go down very well here in brussels and for the twenty eight member states that basically the when i say process that's what the e.u. stands for this club off of twenty eight european countries and in fact frederica mcgreevy only today said that this is some concrete result that could come out of oh out of the summit of course on the larger scale if you step back and take a look at this press conference it started out with an eye rising moment for instance when putin said there's no objective reasons for the sour relationship the u.s. and russia had now in this past two years and of course from the european perspective you know the list for objective reasons is long you have crimea you have involvement with the assad regime you have the sponsors the poisoning of spies that hasn't even been mentioned today and so on and so on well the mentally. right ok
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garrick so much to unpack thank you for providing us a perspective affirm the e.u. also the headquarters of nato a president tough choice earlier on and that brings to an end to our special coverage of the if you rush out bilateral a summit in helsinki we'll have an update of the headlines right after this. short. and on demand. language courses. video for you. wu secure. they make a commitment. they find solutions. based and stronger.
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africa. stories for both people in a different shape shaping the nation. and their continent. multimedia series for africa. d.w. dot com for god to mold. growing spirit has one of the most important jobs at the high court in pretoria south africa he's an interpreter who speaks sixteen languages and his job he must convey not just words but also cultures and customs. the apartheid system was abolished over twenty years ago bringing an end to decades of institutionalized racial segregation and discrimination now all south africans have equal rights. and in courses people can choose which language to speak rosebud his task is to
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mediate between members of the judiciary and plaintiffs or defendants seeking their rights. it's nine am i'm wrong spiritus working day is just beginning. to house work for south africa's justice system for over thirty years. his job is particularly important interpret isn't needed and about ninety percent of cases. south africa has eleven official languages including english and afrikaans. to play with it was. just the. dude is getting ready for
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his first case of the day. the. winner is the interval to jump into the shoes of the person who stays the thieves and they also put yourself in the shoes of the person who understands the question. and then you emotional expression really expose what the exactly the person the strange tale. today brooder will be interpreted from zulu to english for the lawyer the young and the client gaining a traditional healer. not a complaint. on gayety was in a car accident and can't work he wants compensation but doesn't have proof of prior antics they will not get any how are you put a lesser lawyer from the law firm front scatter the ones fighting your case right. here. at the time of the accident in october twenty twelve you are
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a passenger to the met it's been conceded please listen carefully you were the passenger in that car and it was not your fault that the car ended up hurting it was it to them what to do my thing it's up to you sustained through a community fracture rock to be able to get a bump to your feet to the communities when it's broken into the real piece is not walk upright it's little pieces to drop the week. so the leg was broken but not in the usual why it was broken in a lot of places to the. secret which it. appears in the guinea day now we coming to your claim for loss of any case you were working as a traditionally when the accident happened you were working as a traditionally. yes and so now because you don't have documented proof of your income that portion of damages is subject to
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a high contingency that you're a traditional healer but i don't have any payslips you don't write down how much money you make you don't have bank statements. things like my brother on the road accident found has to pay you money because the accident has denied you the ability to work. but you need proof of earnings being in the money when anyone can come here and say they used to earn fifty thousand rand. but the road accident fans can't just give out money without proof because the money belongs to the community because it's about the community who pay taxes but didn't learn a bit of it but since you don't have any proof of earnings some money will be deducted from your compensation this is a contingency deduction almost like punishment but. this is the amount that's often our philosophy if you can't go to the mountains to gather your medicine and. he said if he would take us
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a big family fix he would get sued but we'll hear from them they want to hand out the money so they might increase it. relax and sit here hello. in the end it doesn't turn out well for bubba mangini because he can't provide any proof of income the damages are reduced by more than a third the outcome highlights the differences between the court and its rules and the way many south africans live the. good and the other course interpreters move in both worlds they understand both sides at lunch time they tell jokes and to payday and a traditional cordon parra to within it. you want to show these foreigners that south africans eat a lot. we don't. it's a lot we well there's no waste with us we even eat the intestines. even though many south africans speak more than one language it's unusual to speak sixteen like booted us he learned from relatives friends and neighbors. will do
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a big swell he goes along with this that they just pick up. to having their legs people. looking at people up on the streets you know. i can tell you my head is very soft. a depth of story is it. good he lives in the township of mamelodi which was set up by the apartheid government at the time it was a blacks only area. to me it's also where he grew up. his family had a tough time his father went into exile during the past hide and died abroad his mother raised and his six siblings alone. to the first discovered his passion for languages on the streets of mamelodi. is a section they were getting. during the day they are
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but they the rich. people are good at the put into. to their level with us this side mostly defiance of the. so to speak people they want. yanni that it's a big fight. and . many of today's friends grew up here too and they still meet in the evenings. hours what is wrong everything right. this hour here and fine things yeah. yeah. worked what's wrong you know it's better right. that. it's nonalcoholic yes and better. to make. not only do this friends were able to get on the career ladder
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like him it's hard to get a well paid job if you don't speak adequate english. and social inequality in south africa remains a huge problem. here it's a girly every level which is equal. to the other but practically speaking it's not. they still some people who speak a certain that which is their ego and bitter. over. another day begins at the high court. buddha's first appointment is a meeting with judge led while buck wise the client is seeking damages but the doctors say that she sustained severe head injuries and cannot handle her own
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affairs. you see treated like two i am here you. see what do you call me i didn't hit him. this is usually where. the client wants to deal with the case and her money alone would the judge has to rule on how the case should continue to put it interprets from in the belly. to do the ability a woman the judge is saying that the money will be protected in a trust. that it's still your money. but a trust or protect you. and make sure that only you can have it it would live in the. pale why would this unicenter you understand. this is the thing yes i do understand but with all due respect i have a request. can i protect my own money i am taking medication now so i think i can cope with my question is whether this is possible. or.
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big deal and as to you as a person who was asking judges good possible for the money to be given to me how invest my money. how are you going to invest this money. i'm going to lock it away . keep it safe i don't really look at my money we're going to have you with you lock it away at home at the bank our luggage in the bank. is very curious if i wasn't just to do. with will you be satisfied if the charge of orders thirty thousand to be transferred into your account and the rest be protected by way of a curator bonus with the veil that it is indeed as we explained to you earlier a curator bonus will work with you to secure and protect your money. when the
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threw themselves against. you thirty thousand is ok. if they are good girls it is far. so a compromise has been found. most of the money will be placed in a trust but the client will receive first two thousand rand herself. that's equivalent to eighteen hundred euros. of the. goods. one thousand would his work is to make sure that people understand each other's languages but that's not all he also has to explain a lot to his clients must see him as one of them one of the most clients of a team this really tense and lie. to tell him the truth even though move the a to me has told you what to tell the player in the list call
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