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this is deja vu news live from berlin a diplomatic reception in for atlanta turkey's president ratchet tie affair to once been for better relations with the german government turkey's president is meeting with chancellor on the american on a state visit to germany this visit is overshadowed by strained relations between the two countries we'll have an extensive live coverage of this controversial visit
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. i'm sumi so much god it's good to have you with us turkish president. is in berlin as part of a three day bridge building visit he was welcomed by german president fine foster steinmeyer before heading to the chancellery he is now attending a working lunch with the chancellor angela merkel the two are hoping to mend their relationship which was fractured after turkey imprisoned thousands of people including german citizens following a failed coup attempt but michael's government is being criticized for rolling out the red carpet for at one just bite opposing his policies some politicians are even boycotting today's events and protests are taking place in the capital. let's start our coverage with our chief political editor michelle i couldna she's outside the chancery where president or everyone is holding those talks with chancellor
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merkel hi michelle good to see you so the turkish president the german chancellor there talking over lunch right now what is on the agenda what are they discussing. well most likely they will be talking about the turkish economy but also their own their common strategic interests are both nato partners and they both have a keen interest that syria is not destabilized any further quite clearly he called for a meeting at a level of restart in those very tense german turkish relations over the past two and a half years those have been stretched to the limit and beyond at one time out of one cold the german chancellor called her saying that she was using something like nazi methods when he wasn't allowed to have a political rally in germany and ahead of the last general elections here just a year ago when actually called turks or germans of talks to sent a not to vote for angela merkel's party all the social democrats any of the major
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parties really so that was a provocation that was a direct interference here in the political process so a lot of bruising is happened over the past two years and nobody really expects expect any of that to be mended but the expectation here is that both sides will find some kind of pathway to stabilizing at least that relationship because they both know that they need each other ultimately you have michelle so they'll be talking about their shared interests but also many of those differences that as you've said have characterized the relationship between turkey and germany and they are set to hold a press conference within this hour what are you expecting to hear from them. well i do expect from both sides to hear that they are interested in building more bridges but at the same time there's no glossing over some of the big rifts that are between the two countries and a lot of that is also on ideology really and their outlook on the world that simply
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cannot be denied out of one is still highly suspicious of anyone he sees potentially connected to that coup attempt in twenty six he also just put. a newspaper editor refuge here in germany on a list of people he wants to see extradited to turkey basically suspected him of treason now that is a provocation and that is. opposed to what out of one claims he wants to do which is to bring that relationship back on an even keel and chancellor merkel has been vocal also in the past criticizing out of one for undermining the rule of law in turkey at the silencing of his critics and five german citizens are still in turkish prison but out of one leads on to the national particularly in these times where relations with the u.s.
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have also become more difficult for him he needs allies and angela merkel can't afford a destabilized turkey michelle i want to ask you about one of the people you just mentioned. he is the former editor in chief jim hood yet in turkey he's a dissident journalist he's now living in exile in germany and there's been some controversy surrounding the press conference that's coming up we're going to be covering that press conference live. has said that she might attend tell us about that. you know this is a very interesting one because of course anybody can accredit themselves to a press conference he would be expected to be able to attend but when it comes to actually asking questions that's something that the journalists decide to some degree amongst themselves the final say in the end is with the press spokesman of. calls up to ask questions so i think we might see
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a very controversial moment there either way it's a diplomatic issue if he is there turned into one will see it as a provocation because his relationship to the press of course is completely different he doesn't really believe in press freedom and he would expect others including the chancellor to control who confronts guests here and many of course that doesn't tell him with germany's understanding of press freedom whatsoever if asked a question that could produce a very very tense moment there indeed so that will certainly be one of the most interesting moments during that visit here seems to characterize some of that bruising as you called it that's happened between these two sides of the past few years bottom line michelle what does germany want to see out of this visit. well it basically wants to see some signals that out of juan will return to
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a less. tarion style in turkey and come back on to what really is the basis of doing business of democracy he is a council of europe member both sides of signed up to the same human rights documents and seeing some kind of indication that he is stepping back from the brink of becoming an author or a tarion ruler expectations here aren't that terribly high on that thoughts without a one being in economically weak position and no longer coming self-confident the as the one who single handedly is keeping out of migration travel through that turkey deal there is expected to be some room to get some concrete concessions out of. some kind of signals or some kind of concession that he might make on the human rights territory there let's see and let's be
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a lot of reading between the lines to be done in that press conference as well because both sides don't really have an interest of upstaging the other side's all right a lot of tough issues to work through today. in front of the chancery where chancellor merkel and president of the one are holding talks as you said michel and there will be a press conference within the hour we will be covering that live and we'll come back to you a little bit as michelle said this is a very controversial visit a lot of people opposing president ever to one coming to germany and thousands of people have taken to the streets today they will be taking to the streets to protest the visit we have our correspondent. he's standing by between the main train station and the chancellor we're going to see give us an idea of what's happening where you are. all as you just said i'm here close to the chance leo as close as a normal person could get to the time states day as the government district has been completely sealed off because of the visit off to
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a crisp president project out of one and we have been had to rally all of several german and journalists troops so the for instance the group of journalists with without borders still standing behind me and holding up some signs here signs of journalists which have been imprisoned in turkey since the failed coup d'etat in two thousand and sixteen and this is what this rally has been about about the human rights issues especially the. problems with free press in turkey the way how out of iran treats journalism and journalists you have been talking to me about the case of. and if you would be allowed to ask a question today at the press conference and this is has been of course one of the big issues here at this rally where several journalist groups have made clear that they think it's very critical how the german government is treating they took this president and the state visit ever but this is one rally of several that's taking place today in berlin give us an idea you know who is organizing these protests.
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well there are several rallies going on today the first rally we saw took this early in the morning was close to the presidential palace bell president out of on the german president and there was a human rights group which is called the society for threatened people and their aim was to make sure to make clear bringing across the message that the way how out of one treats minorities in turkey is a big problem for them then we got going to see the biggest rally off today with several thousand people are said to be to to attend which is going to take place this afternoon which has been organized but several could just groups by groups of the community by left parties from here from germany by the. human rights groups from germany so there's a big huge pattern of groups that have been organizing protests all around building today and we're going to see the same tomorrow too in cologne the other places the
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circus president is going to visit there we are going to see also some pro protests this is something we should also mention too that of course here in germany we have a huge turkish german turkish community which is absolutely divided critics to encrypt the pro on groups and of course the critical groups which are mainly of course religion but what you've had a chance to talk to some of the protesters who are in there are here in berlin this morning what have they been telling you why they disappointed that everyone has it all been allowed to have an official state visit or do they see this as a chance to really press and one on these human rights issues. the main thing most of the people told me today is that they want to make clear that they are very critical on the way how elder one is treated at the state visit they say it is absolutely ok to talk and it's needed to talk to the turkish government there's and there must be
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a dialogue but not in the way the german government is proceeding by no not in the way open official state visit but bold this pomp and circumstance going around under specially as the rumor went around that this very popular turkish journalist . possibly couldn't be allowed to ask a question i think a press conference this afternoon this really sparked some outrage but they said it can't be that the german government gives in to the turkish government in such critical things and the other thing the the protesters want to make clear is they want to show president out on that he is not welcome him blamed i mean the protest of this afternoon runs under the title not well not well come on although it's going to be very difficult for them to show this to the turkish president in person ask this. government district has been completely sealed off for. i really defer some one is really going to see any of these protests. all right who put the for us
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outside the main train station there where there's a protest taking place as we said thousands of people expected to take to the streets today to protest president everyone's visit here in germany were thank you very much we'll be talking a little bit later you're welcome thank you. let's get more background on this visit. is with us in our studio where you're covering this visit for us ada why is this visit so important but also so controversial we've heard a little bit from our correspondents but what's your perspective on this well turkish german relations have been strained in the past years are to one has said certain things that have really upset the german government he had made allegations accusing german government using nazi methods when he wanted his ministers to to give rallies here ahead of the elections there was one thing the other thing with there was the conflict with the interleague airbase turkey did not allow
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german parliamentarians to visit the injured in turn a german yes yeah we're just nato and nato is where german troops were based later the conflict grew so much that germany had to pull out its. soldiers and move to jordan so there were a lot of conflicts going on but also of course turkey started imprisoning german citizens german journalists human rights activists so there were a lot of things that happened in the past years and with the release of german journalist and. total who was able to travel back to germany recently then the relations started to look a little bit brighter but still there are a lot there's a lot at stake for the two countries to to really normalize relations so this visit actually is very important maybe it could be seen as a first step to to get relations back on track if things go well and
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these two journalists you mention we should say that these are two journalists who have been imprisoned in turkey and germany was calling for their release do you see that as a sign of a thaw between these two countries because they were released also this is the third by the way high level visit that we've seen in the last month we also saw germany's foreign minister go to turkey so we have. only seeing a reset well the intention is there the intention is there i believe both countries are trying to a stop this establish this relationship but it really also depends on how president is going to act on this on this visit what he is going to say the of course dinners are being set free and micheaux told being able to travel back to germany those are of course good signs but right now things in turkey are not good there are hundreds more than hundred forty journalists still in prison human rights problems are still there democracy is still having a lot of. issues under president juan so there are
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a lot of issues that need to be fixed and there was another move today that was seen as possibly a provocation a list of sixty nine people on a terror list people that the turkish government want to see in germany extradite on terrorism charges who is on this list was this a provocation well yes there is set to be such a list of sixty nine people or one of them that we hear is john doe and our he is the former editor in chief of its newspaper and it is interesting that this list was announced right shortly after actually when john did our said he would go to the press conference today which a chance to merkel and present are doing will be holding and ask a question there he wanted to actually confront president as a journalist and ask him a question and later we hear that there is a list being released a terror list turkey sees john didn't are as a terrorist he's being accused of releasing state secrets. when he
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published the story that the turkish intelligence service was delivering. a weapons to syrian rebels and ever since he has fled turkey he's living in germany and now he's on the terror list a lot of people think these charges are politically motivated we have a sound bite from john doe and are speaking a little earlier let's listen to what he had to say. that's why i'm here i ask difficult questions to him and that's why i'm legs so as a journalist i still want to ask the answers and if i can't do it in turkey i can do it in here in germany so it's my right as a journalist on the other hand of course i have to i would love to give wars to my worthless. colleagues in jail and does well of course i would love to ask about the situation of my colleagues in jail. all
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right so you know so we here in chengdu and are saying i'm exercising my right as a journalist but if you go to this press conference gets i've been asked a question what are we going to see from president and i want well that's going to be very interesting because for president. john donne there is someone that he's after he's trying to get arrested back in turkey put him in prison so it's going to be a very interesting press conference but of course we are in germany and journalists have the right to ask questions and actually in turkey it's not very unfamiliar that journalists face these kinds of. reactions when you're asked when you try to ask a question then you're being attacked by the person that you're asking the question to. and there was also i have to say a debate about this in turkish press there was a turkish journalist who criticize john dunbar and said well if you're brave enough
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why don't you come and ask that question in turkey so you could also see the attacks from pro are due on media in turkey already happening all right well certainly raises the anticipation for that press conference we're expecting that in a little over ten minutes time status there with us here in studio we'll come back to you a little bit for a bit more analysis thank you very much. while we're waiting for that press conference to get under way we're going to take a look at some other news in the u.s. republican members of a senate committee examining president donald trump's nomination for the supreme court are pushing for the vote to go ahead now earlier the committee heard testimony from a woman who accuses nominee brett kavanaugh of sexual assault when they were in school who also testified before the committee denies the accusation. the testimony you're about senators questioned christine blousy forward and supreme court nominee prick kavanah in separate sessions over more than nine hours. and here today not
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because they want to be and terrified and here because they believe it is my civic duty to tell you what happened to me while brett kavanaugh and i were in high school. brett groped me and tried to take off my clothes. i believe he was going to rape me i'm not questioning that doctor ford may have been sexually assaulted by some person in some place at some time but i have never done this to her or to anyone that's not who i am it is not who i was i am innocent of this charge dr ford with what degree of certainty do you believe brett kavanaugh assaulted her one hundred percent one hundred percent how are you so sure that it was.
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the same way that i'm sure that i'm talking to you right now just basic memory functions so what you are telling us is this could not be a case of mistaken identity absolutely not the day of emotional testimony was not without an element so if these are and attempts at political point scoring across the aisle this is the most an ethical sham since i've been in politics and if you really wanted to know the truth you sure as hell what i've done what you've done to this guy are you a gang right this. no this is not a job interview. this is hail this there's this is going to destroy the ability of good people to come forward because this crap. your high school yearbook my friends and i spent the supreme court nominee appeared emotional throughout his
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testimony often on the verge of tears. those are some awesome women. minutes after brett kavanaugh left the president took to twitter writing judge kavanah should america exactly why i know many to ten donald trump describe cavernous testimony and spiritual honest and riveting he then called on the senators to vote or let's get more on this with scott lucas he's a professor of american studies at the university of birmingham and the founder of the enduring america web site on u.s. politics a scott thanks for joining us what did you make of what we saw in those hearings why first of all you saw the very compelling testimony of professor ford she described her alleged encounter with wright kavanah there were people in the audience and even of senators who were crying as they heard this and then in
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contrast you have a very different style of right kavanah and sometimes very attacking almost shouting and then at other times portraying himself as the victim appearing to be close to tears but when he got into trouble with this when he couldn't answer for example whether there should be an f.b.i. investigation that's when you saw the republican senators jumping on and sort of try to cover for him in putting that extraordinary clip of lindsey graham trying to say this is all a conspiracy theory this is all democrats are trying to set you up. the basis of this is that one woman is saying she was sexually assaulted the base of this is that there are two others who have come forward by name to say they've been sexually assaulted but the republicans do not want this to have a full investigation they want to push through cabinets confirmation so therefore they want to vote today without hearing the other women it's about whether he should proceed from committee and they want to vote tomorrow in the first votes on the senate floor so which ones out these women having the chance to speak up or
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politics that's where we are thought after such a raw emotional day what do you think is going to happen do you think having a will be confirmed i would want to predict at this point but what i would say is that in the short term what you saw even more is i think the damage that has been done to america this idea that people go into camps and either you're for or against donald trump you're for or against brett kavanaugh and you saw republicans trying to exploit that yesterday simply by using the language of donald trump it's all the fake media it's all the clintons is how the democrats but in the longer term i want to give a bit of hope to those so not as if professor for coming forward does something to break down the wall of shame to break down the wall of fear over how women are treated about their lives about sexual assault that may be a longer term positive that outweighs even the fate of this man who wants to spend his life on the supreme court but how do you think all of this will affect
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president trying to think he's going to stick by cavanagh this is his candidate the man he supports. oh donald trump is now what we call all in on broad cabinet if he backs out now he appears that he hasn't won but more importantly you saw that almost every republican senator despite serious doubts about kevin the story even yesterday as he testified they are all in they are going to push through this vote no batter what the truth is about these accounts because politically they're invested in other words what should be the legal process what should be the question of a man for life on the supreme court at this point the g.o.p. sees his political future as being more important than that do you think he can be a credible supreme court justice after what we've seen not for many people and that's for two reasons one is is that these claims are going to hang over him for the rest of his life but to his tone yesterday was not to be that of
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a prospective judge he was partisan he sided with the republicans that since the democrats he accused the clintons bill and hillary clinton of a conspiracy theory to do him down he attacked the media in other words brett kavanaugh is no longer a judge who wants to be confirmed he himself is now a politician a political figure and that does not bode well for the immediate future of what is supposed to be the neutral third branch of the u.s. government scott lucas professor of american thought is that the university of birmingham thank you very much for your analysis thank you. now to some other stories making headlines around the world all passengers and crew aboard an airliner have survived a crash landing off a remote island the air new plane hit the water after missing the runway in the western pacific state micronesia locals help survivors to safety and no serious injuries. dutch police have arrested seven men suspected of planning
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a large scale terror attack heavily armed police carried out rates across the country after a months long investigation authorities say a thirty four year old iraq email previously convicted for attempting to join the so-called islamic state headed the terrorist cell and ancient maya pictographic text has gone on display in mexico city calendar style texas nearly one thousand years old and depicts the astral movement of venus it was alluded from a mexican cave in the one nine hundred sixty s. and taken to the united states it's the continent's oldest illegible creek hispanic documents. and new zealand's prime minister has used her speech at the un general assembly highlight the gender pay gap and domestic violence is continuing global problems that we can on the third day of the debate is the art and call for the world to recommit to gender equality she said the need to movement must become we too now this week u.s.
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president trump attacked multilateralism during a speech at the general assembly in an interview with. in new york german foreign minister heikal moss said the german government would continue to pursue a policy of global cooperation. the mass damage a kind of sinister mass the american president has again made clear how little he thinks of multilateral solutions of international solutions what's the reaction of the german government what position should you take on this union. so it's obvious that first of all we have to take note of it but it's not really new it's been an issue in the international community for a long time so we know that on many issues the american government has chosen a different path for itself and is placing more emphasis on you know not really isn't taking solitary and sometimes lonely decisions that. are much more high as i mentioned i don't. think that's right in a world in which the borders are disappearing more and more we live in a globalized world that's true for business that's going kind of that we digitalize
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and that doesn't recognize borders it's the same for climate change and the question of migration can only be solved internationally so we firmly believe that we need organizations like the united nations to surmount all these challenges. so we work to keep organizations like the united nations and the european union functional because we need them now more than ever. once fish them for power and yet we had in the year and video to me germany is on the un security council for the next two years what's the priority as a. result the current events will probably decide the priorities that means crises and conflicts the ones we know possibly others we don't know about yet. we want to take on responsibility and contribute to overcoming crises and ending conflicts conflicts and in addition we want to systematic change to the work of the security council that it works more on prevention to stop conflicts and crises arising in the first place or less conflict he's scottish and stephen friedman says peace and
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security are important issues but so is climate change which should play a bigger role of the united nations. all the issue of women and conflict which in our opinion gets too little attention. these are our issues and i think they'll keep us busy over the next two years. he ran and the nuclear deal is a big issue here the u.s. has renounced it europe including germany is trying to save it can a deal be saved so that. it was convinced it can because we fear that if iran leaves the deal then the situation will escalate further. we don't want. it we don't want military conflict which this is. also not dot com and the entire region is a powder keg so everyone would do well to contribute to giving a negotiated deal a chance. and a short of a congress was trying to do that not just those of us signatories to the deal but
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