if i mean being fought on larry king is it. i would like to ask a question to the chancellor and the president there was an article which you wrote a guest. journalists as it were in germany mr president here you reject the fact that germany is not supporting the commenting on the p.k. enough and that the claim movement is not. prosecuted what have you been discussing about this particular organization in turkey and what about the extradition of individuals you've demanded as far as i'm concerned i can say that the p.k. k. is a bad organization in germany accordingly all p.k. activity is a band as well we have discussed that in detail this time about to do so in previous conversations and i think we see our roads are also enforced by the police if there are demonstrations as far as they fit it haven't been as asia is concerned

we take turkish. points of view very seriously but we do need more material what we have is insufficient to give them a state is comparable to the p.k. k. and we will continue to talk about this issue on as far as concrete requests for extradition is concerned the relevant authorities will process such requests there are some cases where. warrants aft been issued in germany there are also some cases where these were not successful also there are individuals we don't know for certain are in germany. as the chancellor has sent. we did have. a conversation in the past where names were mentioned. there are also p.k. k.

terrorist organization members who are in germany dispersed in the country that is a fact. as far as the feds are terror organization is concerned there are certain members of this organization who are in germany and our intelligence services what is the german. intelligence this is part of for cooperation also cooperation between ministries that is. where our fight with very important starts we showed sufficient so confidence in also. seizing such individuals that would make our work easier. the p.k. k. organization is recognized as a terrorist organization and i don't think there will be problems recognizing the other organization as a terrorist organization either there are also agreements when it comes to extradition of perpetrators who live in the respective country and it will only

enhance the peace and cooperation and security of both countries to do so. where would i be married a r t i would like to ask a brief question to the chancellor. when you discuss the people under arrest in turkey with mr adie and how do we expect that you're telling him come on when are you going to leave them to go and mr and i would say our judges say independent they do that in germany is a lot of skepticism about that and about the freedom of the tradition in turkey or do you actually address each and every case and try very hard to get them released and what is the state is in this matter between germany and turkey and the question to the turkish president there is a seventy three year old german citizen arrested in turkey his name is tiny he is. not well his health is poor he's very well known in turn he has spent thirteen

minutes in prison without being charged and you are a religious person so wouldn't it be a sign of mercy to let somebody like this man go he wants to go back to germany i believe. let me start i mean now i'm not obviously telling about our internal discussions but we can assume that we are addressing cases in concrete terms and we do not do so just at the level of the heads of government but also various advisor levels the foreign minister levels etc and then we will try and sometimes on the basis of longer conversations to achieve a success the name you just given is one of those names where there are complaints and that is still a problem for us there are still five cases from german citizens that's a concern as and you may assure that we both discuss these matters very accurately and we try to achieve a rapprochement that but ok some cases like this take a lot of time. thank you to the chancellor.

there is perhaps one thing much except. neither i myself can intervene in the german judicial system and criticize it nor do you have the right to. criticize the german. judiciary because i do dishes independent and any ruling made can only be respected and in my country there will certainly be rulings which i'm not happy with that goes without saying but i have to abide by what is decided whether or not i respect this moment maybe it's always a matter of consideration we see that all the time but in the turkish legal system . when we are speaking of german citizens. then some turkish courts have. let the people go but continue the

proceedings against them in absentia and you have given man named enver that question do you know and that are turning and what all the things he's done in his past do know that. within the turkish secret service he worked for the mit and you are your way you did so did you know. did you know but all the things he did while working for the intelligence system. why do you think it is that the turkish law enforcement agencies arrested him and here there's a case against him we need to respect that. well

i would like to ask first of a mrs merkel. or not so i give you good and the office of the government elected by the people who was attempted to be overthrown by the effective organization and members of that organization are in germany as we've just heard how do you assess this and to question to the president regarding the economy a sponsor of the steps towards greater normalization and there are some positive. items on your agenda and there will be some indications that hopefully will lead to

positive decisions. let us go back to these individual cases who tries to we did to impart discuss the issue that there are cases where for a long time there are no official charges were preferred which has also. led to a certain large element of uncertainty so with all due respect for the independence of the judiciary there were already video cases where we made it very clear that certain procedures we would like to see different i think that is clear. now regarding the coup attempt we condemn a coup that goes without question we made that very clear i've been myself in turkey i've also looked at the damage to the attempted coup cost in the parliament and i know that more than two hundred people the most they're nice and this is in no way acceptable when you're asking about the root causes all things covert time which we are continually in contact to obtain information we know what's at the

explanation given by turkey but we would need more information and then movement could be rated similarly to the p.k. k. and we do not have sufficient insight yet in germany as we judge. tomorrow in our discussions we will of course focus primarily on the german turkish economic relations and this is explain important to me so we are going to put this on our agenda and. in our economic relations. i believe. the steps that are going to be undertaken now will help us make progress particularly in the area of high tech digital transformation as far as. the

military is concerned there are some steps which had been planned which we are going to follow up some of the joint german turkish efforts in this particular context are going to be very important for the region. i think this will yield great benefits thank you. well. d.p.a. madam chancellor you've already addressed the cases of germans are in prison in turkey could the president give you any indications any sign of hope that things would happen there and when you receive the list of people that turkey wishes to be extradited to do you consider it to be a provocation that the name of john didn't who was accredited to attend the press conference but who clearly out of consideration for the president did choose not to attend did you consider it an insult that his name was on that list and then the question to the president did you apologize to the chancellor for some of the.

requests made and the question to mr ad again as a football fan how sad are you that the twenty twenty four european cup is not going to be heard in turkey could you say the last in what is it mr downer isn't there what wasn't more my question most about first of all mr dinh numbers on the is on the list of names. of individuals to be extradited by turkey according to the turkish which is how do you address that then the question mr downer was accredited as a member of the jones the ten in the press conference may there have been a problem with the possible diplomatic conflict if you were to attend which is why he didn't. i don't want to talk about individual legal. requests for mutual legal assistance but of course there is no secret about the fact that the extradition of mr downer has been sought but i want to say that the fact mr downer is not taking part in this press conference is

a decision he made himself which he's also made very clear let me try and avoid misunderstandings and say clearly that we do have a legal basis for the accreditation of generally journalists and we do not have a two class accreditation with one group of pique people being allowed to ask questions and the other isn't i mean we have two heads of government so you can imagine we have a large number of journalists and not everybody may be getting. around to ask a question but in principle it is possible for everyone who attends to ask a question i find it very important to make that clear given the public debate it was also mr downer's own decision not to attend the press conference. that there are differences of opinion about his particular case between the president talking to myself is something which i can confirm. the question was asked of microphone the answer is the process we're engaged in is a continuous one i'm hoping for a greater rapprochement in recent days there have been some other cases that could

be resolved and i consider how many issues there were between us we've already made a great deal of progress and i think this is indeed a lot of progress so and i hope that even those cases still outstanding will be resolved. and as you well i would like. to thank you for these kind and open words for the chancellor. the turkish judiciary. has made decisions to let various people be released even though the case the proceedings against them are continue i'm not going to name names but the last individual who you mentioned by name so i don't know. who is an agent who has. revealed state secrets to the public. who has been sentenced to

five years and ten months in prison and by turkish courts i think you're aware of that five years and ten months. that's a prison sentence so the person made use of some sort of. gap in this agreement work and managed to escape to germany and that individual right now is somebody who since the sentence was legally binding who should be imprisoned because that is an individual who has disclosed secrets and there is no state or country where it is possible to. commit this crime because it is a crime. and also we have an agreement which was concluded between turkey and germany when it comes to extradite him perpetrators to each other's country and that. we of course. have the right to get

a perpetrator extradited we have a legally acceptable sentence i mean after all it could be the other way around as well it could be that. somebody is in turkey who has been duly sentenced in germany. and then germany could well have passed works traditional that in the video we would have to extradite him certainly if i was present with such a case i would do it if there are no excuses i would certainly hand over such an individual. to a press conference between president agitate i don't want the turkish leader.