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the math of her defeat. every day that passes without this issue being result means more uncertainty and full rancor the government has heard what the house has said tonight but i ask members on all sides of the house to listen to the bush people who want this issue sector. and the government to do just that. for more on what is truly an historic evening in london i'm joined now by the w.'s breaks it specialist right here at the big table alex forrest widening and joining us from london is our own correspondent barbara vaizey good evening to you both barbara let me start with you theresa may i mean she's suffered we have to say a humiliating defeat in parliament tonight but she has vowed that she wants to get this job done is she made of teflon how do you explain this. she is definitely made of teflon because all the encryption off the opposition all
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the arguments that she is sort of bought see and read in the media and all the other opinions about what sort of wrecks and britain should have and could have if then breck's it seems to be necessary that they just get a light off for she has not changed one millimeter within the two years that she has been negotiating this this breaks it and this breaks the deal and she just sort of goes on saying my deal or no deal and when she now talks about a constructive spirit talking to the opposition she should have done that at the beginning of the talks to use ago now it seems quite late plus she has nothing to offer what kid she give to the scottish s. and p. and she was supposed to have met new custards in this evening for instance what could she offered to labor what could she offered to do to the m.p.'s from wales so
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all this is just empty rhetoric on her part and it is not constructive really because it doesn't really show a way forward it means in like an impossible situation but we know she's got what three days to come up with a baby of a bridget plan b. so what are her options and what will she pull out it's a very good question because so far she has been sticking to this a brics it deal that she thought she'd secured with the e.u. which has been voted down tonight downing street appeared to be saying that that with to an agreement is still on the table so i guess that they're hoping that she will be there to get some kind of concessions possibly from brussels but that really is not going to be enough i mean the brics it is hard to tears on from her own party who is saying to her you need to go back to brussels and say we've got to renegotiate right from the very beginning but that's going to be very difficult mean if she did that she then have to. asked for an extension. leaving. something
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that she doesn't want to do i think what she is going to have to do is probably present data again. in a different way but she said to parliament look you guys need to come up with a set with a compromise something that you can all agree on at the moment there are so many different views of them tolerant and need to come together and then needs to be something that you can all aquarium i think the m.p.'s are pushing her to do that and that is something that she will probably have to do on monday you know of it of course depends on whether theresa may will actually remain british prime minister a labor leader jeremy corbett is calling for a vote of no confidence against her to morrow let's listen to what he had to say after tonight's. the results of tonight's vote is the greatest defeat for a government since the nineteen twenties in this house this is a catastrophic defeat for this government after two years of failed to go see a sions the house of commons is today but its verdict on her bricks and that good
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it is absolutely decisive. the most important this year facing us is that the government has lost that contradicts of this house in this country i therefore mr speaker i inform you i have now tabled abduction of no confidence in this. no no i'm pleased i'm pleased that motion will be debated tomorrow so this house going to give its verdict on the share incompetence of this government. german corporate heads things he would have been showing them bare for provisions all in london i mean the vote of no confidence in scheduled for tomorrow and parliament by the sounds of it if you believe corben stories and they will not survive it what do you say. three's may we'll survive it because even though the party that guarantees her a majority in parliament the northern irish d u p which has voted against her
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on the brakes a deal said they would support her they would not they'd they not supporting her as a person probably the hard line breaks that cheers in her own party which have also said they will support her and they do you could very well imagine a different prime minister but that at the moment is not possible because the hard line breaks that cheers in december sort of shot that arrow they've missed and now she's safe from their attacks for the rest of the year however she will survive it and she will remain in government but not in power and that is the main problem she doesn't even have a cabinet behind her that kevin does divided and so nothing constructive and nothing sort of forward looking is coming from her ministers who could at this point in time if we were in normal times say ok listen we need to talk about this we need to sort of figure out something to do we need to sort of at least look
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decisive but nothing there is just silence and nothing and conflicting arguments and statements coming from her own ministers so she isn't a dire pose issue but she's cleaning on by your fingernails because she is a dog and not to stay stubborn and she somehow tries to sort of stay the course stay the course what about a completely different course alex what about a second referendum have we moved closer to that possibility tonight possibly because a lot of this rests on the labor party the main opposition party as we heard jeremy corbin is putting forward this no confidence vote tomorrow it is likely that he will lose it he wants a general election if he can't get his general election then they have to look at the other options and one of those is a second referendum he's a year a skeptic he doesn't want a second one. brendon herring tonight that around a hundred labor m.p.'s to pivot to a second referendum tomorrow some of that says second referendum the push for that
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second referendum is coming from within his own party anyway so that is a distinct possibility however they would still have to get the majority in parliament to support before that happens are right so we're going to be talking about what's happening in parliament again tomorrow alex force one thing here at the big stable and barber of easel in london to both of you thank you for european leaders they have been reacting to the rejection of the brics a deal a deal that they because she did for months of course let's take a look at what they have been saying on social media tonight the president of the european commission told the younger tweeting i take note with regret that the outcome of the vote in the house of commons does evening i urge the u.k. to clarify its intentions as soon as possible time is almost. e.u. council chief double tusk saying this if a deal is impossible and no one wants no deal then who will finally have the courage to say what the only positive solution is or
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another call for clarity came from the vice president of the european parliament maybe mcguinness she spoke to the w.c. brussels bureau chief mark saltzman to not. mcguinness hailing from ireland. three some may have this defeat in the house of commons isn't the time to give you something substantial for example limiting the backstop well regardless of whether for marland or not the european union is committed to the backstop because it's important for northern ireland and the history and geography of that region i think today's vote for tonight's vote is certainly a very emphatic no to this deal but i think we're not clear as to what in the house of commons would actually be approved so we have a situation where the house has rejected the deal that's on the table and they've also said a no deal is not acceptable but we don't know what is acceptable and i think i'm not one with the president of the commission john paul younker the ceiling and
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donald tusk in really needing clarity from the united kingdom as to what exactly they want because i imagine that in the house of commons there are members who would accept certain things and others who would reject them so we need to know where the majorities are many of them i'm sorry to interrupt you there because the back something they have been pretty clear that they don't like it i think some members of the house of commons and they do you p.c. were very much against it but remember that was not the only issue why many in the house of commons rejected this deal for example the labor party said they rejected it because they want a permanent customs union with the european union so they have a different reason so it is important that we don't one issue as the problem and i think from my side and you mentioned i'm irish it's particularly important that we are not isolated i have to say our colleagues around the table of europe have been very clear that an irish problem is a european one and we have to find
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a solution to it can i also say that this may be strange i'm actually glad we have a result because i think we have to be near the end game here we tomorrow we'll hear. a debate on a no confidence motion in the government of the united kingdom there will be developments for. we are in a way innocent bystander standards we have to watch what happens next but. use a completely innocent bystander because if the irish prime minister is has the choice between the hard drugs where you automatically have a hard border and limiting say the backstop in scope why wouldn't he do that you know i think your interpretation is rather tabloid if i may say it is much more nuance to the realities on the ground and i think if those who are mindful to read the detail of the backstop on the reason for us should really vote in favor of this deal because what it gives us both is the energy and the push to reach a final agreement within the shortest possible space of time the backstop is not
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a trap it is not the end game the backstop is an insurance policy not just for the people of northern ireland although yes for them but for all of europe we have built peace in that part of our land we have peace in europe and these things can be fragile so it's it's a big moment it's time to reflect and to take account of what has happened in the house of commons and i would say that the british prime minister has shown herself to be stronger than many would have appreciated she was able to stand up after that incredible and historic to fish and and if you like announce a way forward including facing a no confidence motion so but in difficult times i mean politics is never easy and i suppose we are here in the european parliament in strasbourg but in fact we were all in our office in the house of commons just watching events and just where you can answer just in one word or words or. question for so what are we going to end
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up no deal bragg's it bragg's a deal or no bugs and very few want to know do you people want if you like a balanced agreement with the united kingdom where they will leave that store spec the outcome but we also stay close together so look we. we have a good deal on the table here i hope that there will be reflections in the house of commons. and that we can come to the end of march where we are good friends because guess what we've managed to get this deal across the table but who knows i can call this seems like a long way to go but thank you very much for talking to us. thank you thank you a long road indeed for tonight's vote was full of drama and outside the parliament there was some drama as well. campaigners staged a demonstration comparing teresa mayes course to the ill fated titanic heading for an iceberg the protesters are calling for a second referendum a people's vote something the prime minister has repeatedly ruled l.
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