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for joining us we begin with breaking news dutch police say one person is dead and many have been wounded in shootings at several locations in the city in the netherlands police say. a terrorist motive emergency services are on the scene. where shooting was first reported police say the attacker is still at large and they're not ruling out the possibility that more than one person is involved authorities have told schools to keep their doors closed and urged residents to stay at home. and the netherlands counterterrorism chief peter. said

has raised the terrorism alarm in the province to its highest level. a local police in said that several people were injured while local media reported that the gunman had fled the scene. people were trying to piece together what's going on here but we've been providing help to the victims and we're investigating the scene we're doing our best to find and arrest the person or persons responsible . we have contradictory statements one of them is that the suspect fled with a car but we still need to find out if this is true we're listening to witnesses to get a clear view about the incident at this moment no one is under arrest so we don't know how many victims there are and we cannot confirm reports of anyone being killed. well the dutch government has been meeting in emergency session prime minister mark spoke briefly to a reporter here's what he had to say. with the hold still to come i've just been

briefed on the situation and i'm headed back to my office now that. are to our city it's very worrying news that's when you do it because it was my office will be discussing the next steps with the crisis team that was a. very worrying news indeed well for more on this story let's cross over to. michael di money and is there he's a journalist and managing editor with central dot com thanks for talking with us michael what more can you tell us about what's unfolding in. yeah. thanks for having me on the show. up to now you know we know that. the police are asking people to send in and he still material they may have. can be found on the dutch web site. called an embarq embarrassment and. residents like nearby.

shooting over there at the residence. hall want to kind of just stay in today like you never know what's going to happen you know it's i mean few minutes or hours just as a safety precaution. yeah. let's. pick up on something you said. that there were shots heard. just. try to explain. the truth. there are. the true is that you can you tell us just what that is. a residence so it's a street number you know it's where people it's an address. that entered

a residence and people around the ronda residence said they heard shots. presidents you're talking about a residential building in. police are assembling how close is that to the to the. where. the first shooting took place. just a few a few hundred metres you know it's not far no. and when what sort of activity are you seeing in the streets right now. in terms of the way police and emergency services are responding to this. you know right now i don't have to record access to the scene. i'm just reading of a soft touch news articles right now and. they have with the. alerts you know it's a level five for you trust i love will for for

a national level just in case something might happen. should people be into the lyrics and watch their surroundings. do you have any information about whether the perpetrator or perpetrators in this case are still at large or have they been. are you know they're still at large and they're being. yet they're being looked for you know there's a search going on for apparently a red car might be a renault clio from what i heard. yet the search is still continuing as far as you know. ok michael thank you very much bring us up to date we really appreciate that information that's journalist michael dhar money in there he's with the managing editor of central don't call thank you for having me i'm not saying.

thank you. cleaver is with us here in the newsroom from d.w. news and has been following the story looking in particularly to the context surrounding these events that are unfolding today. of course. the shootings come right on the heels of the mass shootings in new zealand that left fifty people dead and scores injured it's a very very tense very heated right now that's exactly the point and i think this escalation that we've had now it's not just new zealand that is completely in shock . now this is. literally the other end of the world now to the western europe this escalation of fear and mistrust we don't know who this person or persons may may or may not be would they be also kind of. muslim

fascists types or is this a kind of tit for tat kind of an attack with this being an islamist attack we don't know everybody's now talking about whether this is the kind of things happen but the escalation of fear and mistrust and uncertainty and see exactly what any terrorist group or any terror any person who's taken on themselves to terrorist act that's exactly what they want and that makes no difference as to whether that's an islamist terrorist or a far right as i'm a phobic terrorist this is what they want and it's almost impossible to not give them what they want because news organizations like ourselves have to report on what's happened police forces and forces have to take appropriate action so seeing armed security forces on the streets of another major european city is exactly what the terrorists want to see and it's very difficult to try to figure out how dampen

that down because there's been the physical attack right now we don't know the identity of the of the perpetrator or purpose. in this case of the shooter so we're still trying to understand what the motive was for this we we've heard from authorities in the netherlands saying that terrorism may be involved but again that's that's not yet confirmed much less from what direction so with given that we don't know that much about it what we do know is the background to it in the netherlands and this attack is coming out of the time in the netherlands where people are already were society is already facing a number of challenges regarding the different identity groups who have come come to for can you tell us more about the back row short but just to return to one point you just made i mean we don't you're right we don't even know for certain whether this is even a terrorist attack but the fact that this you know maybe it was a relationship thing that went horribly wrong and somebody just tried to she did go

off and it happened right but even even if that's the case even if it's not a terrorist attack this particular one it's having to be treated as a terrorist attack because that's the context that this shooting has taken place in and that tells us about some something about where we are as a society it is an international society the fears exactly because as soon as something like this happens everybody is thinking oh god it's another terrorist attack of one strike or enough in terms of holland. you know holland is you could see it all this is a microcosm of western europe in the western european situation you have a very open liberal society where fifteen years ago. the filmmaker was able and encouraged to make a film in which he talked about violence against women that have been in the islamic world that. we would say is a. shining example of free society and all the rest of it and yet then he was

killed in the street in two thousand. for by radical islamists to. this is the absolute horror of this what the artists have done and that's the kind of. two sides of things that we need to have to struggle with in the west and actually all over the place but particularly here where we. allow people to say and do what they want you know we value the idea of being open to migration to helping people allowing people who it's dangerous difficult situations to come to make a life here but they don't necessarily seem to fit in and then you have this kind of act as people call it a far right people like in holland who are very anti muslim migration and who say that they fare in the west and that gives birth to these kind of

movements like. she's very anti non-christian migration or non-christian rooted migration this obviously also an element of racism to we have to deal with this is this this is the context in which this kind of thing is happening and we struggling most parts to try to find some kind of balance where people can be open and people come to accept is. ok thank you so much for being with us cleaver she's following this story this developing story out of it in the netherlands today and of course we'll be coming back to for more information later on thank you so much. to the aftermath of another major shooting we've already been talking about new zealand's prime minister has said new gun control laws will be announced in ten days time in the wake of the attack on two mosques in christ church new zealand there also be a review of what the authorities knew or didn't know before the attack which

claimed fifty lives australian far right extremist has been charged with more. a shake in christ church did. serve. and now the shaken country is tightening its gun laws. something some politicians have tried but failed to do in the past due to a strong gun lobby and a culture of hunting the suspected attacker is brinton terence a twenty eight year old australian self described white supremacist he's now been charged with murder police say he used military style assault weapons which he was able to buy online legally. cabinet to say made in principle decisions around the reform of our gun laws i intend to give fear the detail of

these decisions to the media and public before cabinet meets again next monday this ultimately main set within ten days of this horrific act of terrorism we will have announced reforms which well i believe michaele community safe you can surrender your gun to the police said any time in fact i've seen reports that people are in fact already doing this i applaud that if it. the attack has united new zealand is in their horror and in their grief. that they have failed. because one of the. if anything has increased the law and the feeling we have fallen country and we have also seen the tremendous outpouring of love when we call here. students led the vigils

in christ church performing the hakka. i was at that. singing. is. my meeting with muslim leaders. fifty people were killed in the attack and fifty more were seriously injured. now the city and the people involved in affected coming to terms with what happened. well joining me now for more is to reset locker she's a tech journalist and editor motherboard germany welcome to the program so let's start to look at how this video could be spread so easily and so quickly and so

widely how did that happen. so on facebook everybody can live stream anything without moderation and in this particular incident the hacker had a social media strategy that went ahead well ahead of the attack so he had twitter accounts announcing what he was going to do he was posting particular accompanying photos on twitter and on facebook and also on other platforms that are widely populated by a lot of young. predominantly male uses who shared it and there's a deep connection to the so-called troll culture that. they upload and really uploaded the video also on twitter so it went around on more than just facebook in terms of platforms you raise an important point there teresa about the killer raising or the alleged shooter there raising this already ahead of time on his facebook account he kind of indicated what he was going to do. facebook had done

more to stop this spread well there are certain. technologies that could help facebook with fact now a days they only react by notice and takedown so if somebody is raising a problem with a particular content and then facebook is moderating that that takes quite a long time there are many instances like fingerprinting particular video that could help facebook in doing more and doing faster also german police and. foresman are pushing for these algorithmic solutions but they are highly questionable in terms of overbooking there are issues that are connected with that let's open up this discussion a little wider in terms of terrorism in the role of social media how important has social media now become for those who perpetrate terrorist attacks very important also because the references to particular cultures that perpetrates

terrorism are right in this manifesto that he's bread and sometimes i also think that the media is. partly to blame for over analyzing what he's trying to put through in his strategy and his propaganda so when he writes a manifesto citing particular events citing particular right being extremists then media should fall into this trap because it was a particular strategy behind it and that was to spread whatever he was trying to try and spread the killer was clearly seeking media attention. on a list of editor of motherboard germany thank you so much for talking with a single year. now to some of the other stories making headlines around the world today ethiopia's government says last sunday's plane crash shows clear similarities to a crash off indonesia in october that's based on analysis of flights from the plane's

black box recovered from the wreckage near. both planes were boeing seven thirty seven max eight aircraft boeing says it will cooperate with investigations into the crash. rescue teams are continuing to look for the missing in indonesia after flash floods and mudslides killed at least seventy seven people in the province of papuan several hundred more have been injured flooding disasters which are often deadly are a common feature of indonesia's rainy season. thousands of serbian anti-government protesters have rallied outside president. is residence in belgrade the demonstration came a day after oppositions voters stormed the state run television building they have been staging weekly protests since december husing of autocratic rule and stifling media freedom. here in germany the country's two biggest lenders deutsche bank

bank could be joining forces for years both have been struggling to grow but with the government pushing for stronger national banks the lenders have confirmed formal talks toward a possible merger that would create a national champion in financial services. they're the largest banks in germany and their competitors now they want to join forces to become one strong german private bank above all because the federal government in germany wants them to be the goal a bank that can keep up with international competition both financial institutions have seen better times numerous lawsuits have had a strong impact on them after three years of losses profits have recently returned but both banks are little compared to their international competitors. only merge with come out spunk if it makes economic sense that's why we need a good plan. as far as the balance sheet is concerned the two banks are far from

equal one point seven trillion euro's a georgia bank and a half a trillion euros that commits bank together the two banks would almost catch up with the largest bank in the us j.p. morgan chase in purely mathematical terms but for critics that's not enough reason for a merger. and i do think the merger alone doesn't create a new business model and size of the owner is not enough i don't see the vision behind it yet. the merger could also be painful for workers unions fear between twenty to thirty thousand bankers could lose their jobs for many it's a forced marriage for political reasons the two beleaguered banks will have to see what other advantages they'll have besides saving money. well for more on this possible mega merger and joined by stephen beardsley from v.w. business hey steve so there's been rumors about a possible merger between these two banks for quite some time yet now it's confirmed that talks are going ahead what about the timing was it happening now as

you said this is been in the crystal ball for a while and it's even been attempted once before on sort of a preliminary basis so both sides have known that this was a likely is a likelihood both weak banks why it's happening now is because look at the economy what's happening with the global economy and also here in europe in germany everyone expects it to go down it's already starting to slump you see in china see a lot of global signs that things are really sort of receding and when the waters recede that makes everything harder for businesses the german government looks and it sees a lot of businesses that are going to of course need support during that time when it comes to financing and credit and if they don't have a strong bank out there if they have too weak banks who's really going to be able to shore up germany's high powered export economy when push comes to shove they want to have to rely on a foreign bank so this is an effort to create that reliable lender out of two struggling lenders to struggling lenders with the share prices that have plummeted of course over the years many do believe this merger is not really what it what they would like it to be why is it so controversial exactly i think the way it was

when the piece is actually really really good it's a forced marriage it feels like it this is also put the piece what was interesting both of these banks have similar business models there's not something that one offers the other which is noteworthy enough alone to make them want to have a merger for strategic purposes this is a merger for survival not for strategy and that's not a good reason to combine banks also when your business models overlap in such a way that means a lot of job losses and that's why people don't like this is well there's another issue of competition what happens to the consumer when prices rise for financial products because of this merger. there's also a lot of criticism that perhaps a german bank should have tied up with the. european bank instead of just another german bank that they could actually extend their horizon a little bit and truly offer something more to talk a little bit about possible negative impact in terms of the labor force and consumers but what about other risks involved here i think one of the risks here is that when you have the german government it's really pushing for

a merger that it makes it easier to overlook possible warning signs here right the german government has said or suggested from what we've heard that it would make it easier for the job losses they might look past the job losses in order to get this german champion that's one risk the other is that all your eggs are in one basket here you have to lenders here and suddenly have one giant lender what happens when it fails it has to be rescued so a lot of a lot of risks here actually stephen thank you so much i'm sure we'll be hearing a lot more about that in business coming up later thanks terry through now returning to our top story that we're following for you one person has been killed and others wounded many others wounded it seems in the shootings in several parts of the city. in the netherlands merge city services are on the scene at a tram stop where the shooting was first reported police say the attack may have a terrorist motive and a manhunt is underway the terrorism threat in the province of act has been raised to the highest level. well let's bring in michael and he's

a journalist and managing editor of central dot com michael what more can you tell us what's the latest. yeah. bit of a load on here apparently they have possible suspects he's about thirty seven years old possibly of turkish origin i'm not sure about that i've got a name here but i don't want give to name out. a suspect he's probably got something to do with the incident they're looking for this person right now. there were some campaigns planned around. the area like some political campaigns those have all the counseled. the threat level student level thought. it's. most recent even some extra controls and checks at the border of germany and netherlands. with regards to the incident so the police are clearly looking for

a suspect they have identified you describe him what is it like in central right now with the shooter apparently. well i think that's a bit of a subjective. subjective thing to talk about because i mean. d.c. is the whole five and it's up to people themselves to decide ok am i going to stay inside all day i'm going to live my life in fear of your own life to yeah i can't really comment on that one ok so just to briefly if you can we understand that there were shots fired at a location other than can you tell us anything about the. i cannot confirm that there were shots fired elsewhere on the size of the tram all i know is that something did happen on the tram there were shots fired in there which has lead to one casualty and multiple wounded i cannot comment on ok

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