what secrets why behind these mosques. find out more city experience and explore the world cultural heritage site. d w world heritage three sixty. britain's foreign secretary has warned of brecht's it paralysis in the u.k. but there are frantic efforts underway to prevent bad happening my guest this week here in london is nigel mills a member of the pro bracks it european research group which has consistently campaigned for a tough deal with brussels tougher than the one currently on the table or no deal at all last week though mr mills changed his mind and decided to support to resume a's agreement other diehards finally calling it a day. nigel

mills welcomes conflict thank you have you finally accepted the european union is not going to blink when it comes to the deal on the table that they finally mean what they said this is the only deal that they look for the deal has not changed substantially since november so aside from some traffic ations i think we have to accept that that's the way they likely situation i think you could rule out them trying to help the prime minister at the summit by offering a few more clarification from all the interpretations but i have him substance there is going to change in a state so your colleagues in the g. the european research group fundamentally underestimated the didn't the. well i think it saying it was going to blink i mean we had this return to britain didn't we the e.u. will blink at the eleventh hour but we're not there yet we need to hold our nerve they were never going to blink ever estimated only

a shooting abilities in that situation were estimated but r f i think we are and i think any of us when we set out on this after the referendum for we end up in this situation of you know having no idea what the future partnership is being asked to sign a transition which restricts partnerships and you not not really have anything in return for it but i think the have held firm to their position about that may not have been a sensible tactic for them we haven't quite know how the next week or so will go you know we still haven't agreed a deal we still haven't agreed an extension you know they're still scared around if i do agree that the government agree to do you agree doing haven't gone through parliament to mean that's the key thing but this is this idea that the e.u. always blinks which we've heard from many of your colleagues this it was a fundamentally force assumption wasn't it that somehow britain had equal cards with the e.u. it didn't never did in this negotiation i think once it became clear the government

won't really serious about us leaving without a deal then we didn't have equal cards now at that point your asking for something in you could almost take what you give in haven't you but though the is the largest trading group in the world they hold all the cards it's their club that you're leaving they will decide what rules apply should you wish to take advantage of some of the. privileges on offer with that club you are i think what i thought we had in our manifesto eighteen months or so ago was that we wanted to create a comprehensive training arrangement with the baby agreed on those have come and in every one of those would be japan i'd be quite happy just to replicate the terms of that and we're asking them for anything that's the largest trading agreement in the world currently. which britain is walking away from what we were signed with japan the largest trading loss not the arrangement that we have with the currently walking away from a political union with the european union not walking away from trading relationships i say would be quite he won't be able to take advantage of that deal

with you but we would can create a similar one with japan i mean they've said they want to have those discussions they want me to say that for me will be a similar one but i think if you're. contention is that there was nothing here you know we have to agree to anything you can offer us that you know i think we would have been quite happy many of us to take your an agreement or you often other people who are further away who are less big market and we don't have a hundred billion pounds a year surplus with would have some cards to play think we played them pretty badly the european research group seems to be now doing the blinking we're seeing former minister estimate say that she's going to vote for two reasons deal even david davis the former minister and now jacob riis mug says he's undecided he's the chairman of the group so the die hards are finally calling it a day either while i voted for the deal last week so if i was a diehard i call it a day but i you know i think you have to look at the facts as they are on the day you make your voting decision and your i don't like this there is

a lot of great situation to put the country in mr constraining ourselves in the way we we shouldn't be doing but of the options have now left the table we don't have a government until last week having said a bit of a would do you know deal or not if a deal failed now made it perfectly clear that they don't want to do you know the apartment made it clear that parliament wouldn't approve a no deal brigs it so the choice is now the prime minister's deal or what looks like a long extension and i think it's clear to me that the deal is the better bet of those to you talk about facts but it's been hard to sort of some of the fantasies that you broke city is sold to the public in twenty sixteen before the referendum hasn't really like the promise from david davis himself to have negotiated a free trade area ten times the size of the e.u. by the autumn of twenty eighteen where did fantasies like that come from lighter remember that fantasy but. we voted to leave. the should have been able to have

a constructive dialogue with be able to leave by now in future partnership but not on the basis that hunters i mean might go for instance that they asked that we vote to leave we hold. all the cards and we can choose the path we want what was that when i was there was some seahawks wasn't it we could have chosen to say we'll leave without a deal here's a draft free trade deal take it or leave it we didn't used to play the card in that way we've been trying to secure. the government been trying to secure what looks like a hybrid half in half out relationship which the e.u. did think was cherry picking but you know reg city result fairytales to the country you sold the public a pup didn't you think we did i thought i think we resolve the knowledge of an independent country that can make you same decisions that wanted to have a cooperative trading relationship with it and there is maybe i think people watching this i would be a little bit confused as to why the us stock so long to the line and they can't negotiate the future arrangement to move left and what people wanted us to do was leave and move into the new relationship seamlessly i mean it's just a crazy situation to say to your nearest market we were close sellers are going to

even talk to you about your future lay ship until you've actually walked out the door you know where the logic you know about one thing is driven to this without another whether it's logical to you it's logic it seems logical to them and again as. they held although in here we are five zero zero zero leaving date without a deal in place with our law still being to leave that's not gonna be you a thousand days of disunity among the tory party factional disputes fantasy promises and almost criminal failure to consider the. good of the country and the national interest that i will i think everyone can look at and see but a little i think everyone just in for the good of the country ministerial single biggest decision we've taken in more than my lifetime in public probably decades i don't think anybody in parliament voting for anything they don't think is in the national interest and i mean that's just a free and fair thing to say well if they had been working in the national interest we would have seen people ready to compromise ken clarke the father of the house

that the public holds the house of commons in near contempt for the fusion they see not only is opinion polarized here lots of factions are pursuing their own preferred ways but the public are even more polarized that the time of the referendum is basically saying look what you've done to the people of this country what you've done you confuse them you've polarized them. that's what the result we had a referendum we thought implement that decision i think what many of us have been doing is saying we have a manifesto we went to the country here for a referendum and said here is our breakthrough plan we will not be in the customs union we will not be in the single market we want to be one of many generations even though you are going to run you should talk to the well during this period you talk to you argued amongst yourselves but he wouldn't talk to us until we formally triggered article fifty eight it wasn't possible to greece and before we started that two year journey taking what it was possible to associate with them it was possible that the number of people throw away when you can is not like conversation three years of factions inside the tory party arguing amongst themselves that's

what the british public was treated to and as a result only six percent of voters see parliament in a good light now don't you hang your head in shame and that sort of figure i mean it's a terrible figure as a six but this is not provable rating this is really hardest decision anybody's have to take the most difficult negotiation no one wanted to be this drawn out you know i think that it is a. parliament reflects how divided the country is on the situation. and given if you have never compromise you the people's representatives can't compromise and you haven't been able to compromise formers three years what are you doing in politics anyway i politics is supposed to be about compromise is not it is that a compromise was especially bass to hew to principle the numbing decisions that the people take in a referendum so knowing when to leave them behind in the national interest absolutely but i asked why i think most prigs it is have accepted we have to have a twenty one month transition which effectively results in the staying in the for

me an extra two years would take us to four and a half years after the referendum most of us accepted that we should pay some sort of divorce below even though. and nothing in that situation i think most of us would accept that a trade deal would have having some restrictions on what changes we can make to our own regulations i think we've been all manner of compromises. but what we couldn't compromise on was not taking back our independence and being free to control our own affairs the irony is that your group the. one of the most divisive in many people's views actually promised to look for consensus in britain and in twenty seventeen your former chair so elephant and as she was then described the group as supporting the government to deliver a bracks it which works for everyone there are two broken promises in that statement on the first you were so intent on supporting the government that you tried to get rid of the reason many tried to force around and. since then you have

fought tooth and nail to insist that only your bread was the real bricks so that was hardly in the interests of our whole country i don't think that's was a tall fetter and if you look through the history certainly since the general election of war or as happened in parliament you'll see that in the e.r. g. most members there loyally support of the government all the dregs of the tried to get rid of right is alive but they don't let me finish you the whole time i got up and until the check is policy announced last summer which fundamentally changed the nation state the prime minister was proposing for us to have with the new compared to what he promised in our manifesto a momentary one election which is the mandate on which were meant to be governing now that cause the first wave of resignations to break cities from the cabin in that situation yet again there was no challenge to the prime minister everyone was clear we wanted to see a change in the policy not a change in the person it was only after but why did you always take it was only a you were the only people who knew what really meant the question in the referendum was should the u.k. remain a member of the european union all leave the european union that was the only question

that the referendum but you since that have set yourselves up as arbiters of what the true bracks actually is full i think one has to take their own view on what it is but if you have i think what we've been doing is trying to actually deliver the progress that we promised people in a manifesto we had a general election on and if you can go to the country and say this is what briggs we want you to vote for here's the vision that we have vote for us and will deliver that and then trying to give us something completely different that's not on liberal politics that's not principle politics and i mean that is effectively misleading the the the people so i mean it's regrettable with the prime minister chose to change the direction of the future nation ship last summer and that's what brought most of this problem around until then she had almost complete support from the g. and it was the people who wanted to remain here because in the problems in the party why did you change your mind and vote for the reason most of the well there are two reasons for that but i always say if the facts change you have to change how you very base them so that i thought some of the assurances she got last week which were legally binding. a clear commitment he wouldn't try and force us into

something against our will that was important to me and yet many of your colleagues still cling to the view that this is a bad deal worst possible deal but i think it should be clear it's not a deal on the what is your group is very divided given i think you're going off actually this is not a great deal people are very worried about whether i should be in here we can leave i mean at least when you're in the you can trigger article fifty and leave it's not clear you can do that from the backstop mother but there were some reassurances last week that the backstop would not enjoy the you have no intention of meeting jointly won't try and force into something that we didn't want to have if that's what parliament decides in future that and the fact that was very clear by the start of must rely upon that would never agree to a no deal drugs and there was a clear majority for an extension meant that the choice is now not between a promise just deal improving the prime minister's deal having a no deal begs your second referendum it's pretty clear now that the choice is leaving with a promise to deal in a few weeks time or having

a very long extension more resistance is crumbling or are you just fighting like ferrets in a sack well it is reducing because you can see that mean fifty others voted for the deal last we we didn't vote for it the first time it was very thoughtful it clearly is a change in niger mills this whole process is the britain enormous damage doesn't it in the specially to the health service when the pound sank after the referendum result in excess finances were hit by bracks it with huge sums wiped off its balance sheet by the collapse of the. the additional cost so far from bracks according to the british medical association an extra one hundred fifty five million pounds never admitted or factored in to your calculations was it why. country voted to leave him out of the can become the history of the pound your exchanger in it's going up and down but white but we still have one hundred fifty five million euros of the carried out on the national economic growth is still one of the strongest in europe i mean i don't think you can say that it's pretty

decision has destroyed our economies just from that i didn't say this story they're going to say i think i was sitting down made say to the one organization that you painted as one of the great beneficiaries from breck so we have left here and you haven't achieved our lesser yet and one hundred fifty five million will lead you to their costs while we spend you know we spent two hundred sixty billion plus a year on the n.h.s. i mean you can also sometimes i was so that's all fun and the national health service was to become one of the major benefits the royal college of physicians doesn't see it that way government's lack of clarity over how the u.k.'s immigration service will work they say after breaks it could leave the n.h.s. spending up to half a billion pounds per year on international recruitment again never factored into those sunny uplands that you have offered the british numbers the increased government house being played on auto gratian policy will be skills based people from all around the world are on the right skills and cost half a billion pounds of audio and international recruitment asking us crazy this is

royal college of physicians we are i don't know just make it up in just by my views on bridget i suspect i'm going for you and i mean there's no you just got these figures from c. i had to then i mean if you were i think coming to work in a test would be hugely attractive people from around the world behind it we already have a lot of employment in the n.h.s. from countries outside the un inside i don't think you need to spend half a billion up to three in the year following the referendum in the year following the referendum almost ten thousand european health care professionals quit the n.h.s. . by november twenty seventh in the number of e.u. nurses registering in the u.k. was down ninety percent fabulous result. doesn't this and you remember the time it was very clear other explanations for why for them some of that was a procedural issue at the time of the name for example but you know i think we when we have a clear integration policy based on skills people people who we need to come here be able to come here and we welcome them it's clear that n.h.s. and catheters will still need lots of immigrant labor i mean it's you know there's just no way we can train a people in

a short period to feel like the problem is also in the universities cording to the royal society and i don't think anyone has suggested that they peddle fake news the u.k. could lose access to over a billion pounds a year e.u. research from the even with the government government's guarantees u.k. based research years and small or medium sized enterprises will lose will lose access it says the half a billion in research funding having an immediate impact on research underway in the u.k. find a price worth paying feel the government of being clear that we want to have continued research cooperation with the not offering of the big net contribution that our very noses up to says oh no reason why we can't offer the amount of money that we need we need to to do to a place that the royal society says it could take years to develop alternatives to the e.u. funding meaning that valuable research could be stopped immediately why don't you accept that in the in the spirit in which it's given that i do it when i was twenty i would all i would happily have this country's research effort is going to do with

damaged severely damaged i would happily there's no is anybody here in benghazi who voted to end research cooperation with the european countries with lot of unintended consequences just in life for that but there's no surely more realize that this was going to be a no reason why we don't think we want you we want to research cooperation much wider than twenty eight countries that we so there's no reason why he should refuse to have us cooperate with them isn't it time that there was another general election here in the country needs to hold you to account doesn't it for the for the broken promises and the way that the whole e.u. negotiation is being conducted and we had an election not that long ago people weren't too keen on to to have to have that one i'm not sure what to let. in the one in which you lost your majority in the one in which we got the largest share of the vote that my party howard dean twenty something about years old lost through majority and so was the great result was it wasn't a great result now but you know i think you can see when your vote share goes up from thirty six to forty four percent the people were one of them to an even though they promised to liberate that as well i'm not sure what

a general election would change i mean what proposals would be for main parties standing on what would people who then went to vote think they were going to achieve by the person they are voting for and it doesn't look clear from the opinion polls you wouldn't get a very similar component when you've already got i think we need to fix it in this parliament in the obvious fix now is to vote the prime minister's deal through and move on to the next stage of these talks and you can do that can you well i think we can i think people will i mean that we've been strong and stable we're talking about the last election strong and stable was what the prime minister promised in their election campaign we've seen anything but strong and stations thought we've seen weak vacillating we've seen divisions we've seen we saw at election time on the basis that he needed a strong majority to deliver on something at a few of his brags in the public didn't give us that strong majority there's a growing view that your party is because of the disagreements and the tensions over europe which go back decades in your party that it's

a luxury that this country can no longer afford i had recognised those were the time when the issue of europe has divided the country not just one party ever since we joined him before that. but the people decided they wanted to leave and we should deliver that if you look at the opinion polls my party is still enjoying healthy lead in most of the opinion polls i don't think you can say we become some people don't want an email. whatever happens with bret's it's going to take years to find out the true impact of it isn't that i mean most economists who look to the post-breakfast future didn't have much good to say about it you in your group you pinned your hopes understandably on one academic who did a man called patrick minn for cardiff university this is a man who recommended the heart breaks it and abolition of all tariffs which could do enormous damage to agriculture and industry in this country but he was your main linchpin wasn't he he wasn't my main interest at all i mean i think we are coming

future will be best served by having a good comprehensive trade arrangement with the without any tariffs on a so it was just what you have looking to switch before brics and looking to expand our sales around the world we would be a pretty shocking exporting outside the all the growth in future will come from outside having having better training most of us were outside will be positive for my country and i think if we can get a sensible trade to go along with this is the group that you do sixty percent of your trade with us not where sixty percent of our exports go as i mean it will as exhibit a day goes on this where we have a sixty percent or we have a look at that there is no took close i think shading part of the any largest trading block in the world and i think any sensible person wants us not to have a good preparation with the the constitutional chaos that we've seen accompany the whole debate in this country should worry everyone shouldn't it labor pierced you it would says the whole process has shown the britons unwritten constitution is basically broken do you agree with that. yeah i think if it isn't as difficult as

this without a majority in parliament and with suddenly too many public wants to appear to me parliamentarian is not wanting to respect the will of the people in a referendum the online diary seven on your side but i think it's i think you have to say it's been mainly people who didn't who do not accept the result who have been trying to for straight this process that has brought us. out of the. position but we've seen contempt for parliamentary procedure from the government itself this is may's government is the first to be found in contempt of parliament for initially refusing to publish its legal opinion on bricks and no government has ever published legal advice was the right nothing under contempt of parliament for those very good reasons why you don't generally publish legal advice it means you don't even mean you can't take the advice of any minister been a pretty unique situation when the two main parties got eighty three percent of the very election promising to respect the result of the referendum yet here we are still with large numbers of people who will not accept the people voted to leave the turn of the street in any way they can either by transparent various or by

frustration through the process and i think many people in the country are absolutely furious that poland has been touching deliver and leaving within what is nearly three years since the referendum enough ac making that nearly found they believe you and your colleagues i think the public trial is going to be very difficult it was a boy isn't it that they want to blame people who just will not accept the result will not accept any kind of deal for us to leave us who they need to blame well and that includes people from the european. well i. say we had a manifesto we went back and our hearts who are unlike you are still refusing to buy into the reason a stable i mean i think people who have stick up for them but i would say the choice now is to leave with this deal or to risk not leaving at all i think we should have these people your principles more important interest. well i think if a vote how the national interest is clearly being to get a consensus to stand before the us this is our great position this is something in

three years that britain has been unable to way we should have achieved that consensus was to have a general election and then have the winning party manifesto be that consensus and accept that's the thing that has a mandate from the public that's what some people in parliament including sadly some in the cabinet just have not accepted that mandate that plan that we set out to the country the common people in behind closed doors in smoky room to try and change that manifesto plan and that's that's the what the public gave us the mandate to go and deliver britain is going to merge from this process more damaged more divided nation that it has been in modern times for i think how do you how do how do you mitigate that you're defined as not unite us aren't you i think the way we feel the way this country's been by them this issue for a long time we gave back to the public to the final decision should we stay or should we leave the only way we can unite the country is to move on leaving it on to on on to governing the country on the issues that they care about and making

a success of this vision people take and i don't think you can unite a country could still we are where we're arguing about is that scenario and decision was made it should be implemented that's what parliament should be doing he gives in to back to the people you have to implement what they decide and the question the question is how and you're still not agreed on. well we have one deal on the table that gets us out of the in the next few weeks i think that is the is the best way for and i don't think anybody really wants another couple of years where we can stay in the you are now argue about this and try and work something out to me even then if you won't change their mind then they go shooting a future partnership while most of them will have two more years of arguing about how to get out and then we'll have to start in the future party that's not a healthy situation i think this needs to be resolved quickly now i hope in the summit that we have. at the end of this week perhaps in a couple of clarifications and concessions can be made and that can be enough to get this deal over the line and we can get on with a pretty big and ratify new budget moves be good to have your conference or thank

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